Welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke. I'm your host, Colleen Wit, and today we are outside the typical l a podcast studio and into New York City, where I'm originally from, and we are not cooking. We're eating out today and we have a special guest. And the special guest is my baby Brother also known as My Little Brother, stand up comic. You may have seen him on Comedy Central, HBO. He sells out a lot of secret shows all over
New York City. Can catch him at the seller I mean you literally can stalk his Instagram and try to find a way to catch him. But I promise you'll be an amazing night. So, Eagle Wits, what will you have us eating today? Dollar slices? Dollars slices, so dollar pizza slices? Okay, okay, So is this something you ate on the regular or was it like you were cooking up something else? And this is what I was eating before stand up paid like doing the open mics and
you know, you get a dollar slice. My boy shout out with sama. He would He actually taught me. He was like, if you put hot sauce on the slice, like drizzle hot sauce on it. It's almost like the pepperoni's there, like you could taste the pepperoni. And we used to do that every day. We ask other comics to have more money than us for a dollar just to go get a dollar slice. And now have you ever like now that you I would say, you're I want to say you've arrived in your career. You're definitely
you're definitely doing well. Would you do you ever randomly like get starving, hungry and say let me go get a dollar slice? Or you know that's how much you hate it? Yeah, it's over, it's over. Okay, okay, okay, So on a one to ten, if you were comparing to slices, you have the dollar slice versus your average slice,
Like where does this dollar slice range? You could get a really good dollar slice that's like a six out of a ten, you know, Oh you mean like a random like just one day it comes up and it's a decent like some of them, some of them dollars places to be all right, you know for real, but you wouldn't never done. I mean, it's not messing with a real slice. Okay, okay, yeah, okay, So what did you cook in the kitchen when you were struggling growth
ship like way worse than dollars. Like what I would get this is I had a three dollar meal I would do every night when I get home late from open mics, I would get ramen. I would get like a can of peas or corn and a cana tuna, and I would because you got the protein, you got your veggie, and you got your start, you know what I mean. And I put that ship together and mix it up, you know, drain it a little bit, put it even on a pan a little bit. Okay, Okay,
did you add butter to your like sometimes? Okay, I used to try to make it moves with a little butter. But let's just go ahead and try these dollar slices we had to improvise today because we had to do the uber eats or however. So we're just gonna eat a slice of pizza just to kind of try to get into what you were going through while you were working your way to the top. So we're gonna take a bite, all right, all right, mm hmm, Chase the poverty saying, well, it's good, the pizza's colt. So I
can imagine it was like terrible, it was. It was just bad. It was bad. I remember like maybe a year unto your stand up, coming to New York and you had you were legit like borrowing a dollar from me to buy a slice because it's real. Yeah, it was real. So there's one dollar slice place where the dude you talked to him long enough, he just forget that you didn't pay, and he just let you walk out. Me and my boy used to go there all the time. Yeah, but you guys just chatter him up, just talk to
this naked forever. Let there be a cute girl in there. He really forget Okay, okay, So tell us what was going on at that time when you were doing these dollars, like well, you know, it was like no, um, I open micing it. You know, you don't get paid to do open mics. Sometimes you pay to do open mics. Yeah, yeah, um doing like no exaggeration, like five to thirteen open mics a day. I leave early in the afternoon, like two in the afternoon and come home too in the morning.
Just did that for like probably like a year and a half, two years, and no part of you was like, oh, I don't know, maybe this isn't for me, or did you get frustrated. Did you ever have like a day job or anything? Kind of but not really. I couldn't keep a day job because it was like to do that much stand up you had to kind of just commit to it and be broke. Is like it is the only way to get really good. I would like
go in and out of day jobs kind of. Remember, man, I did Postmates and oh you did Postmates Bro's Oh my god. I don't want to slander a brand on the podcast. Man, they it's like they you make just enough money to get hungry from walking around to buy food, and then your back broke again. And that's just how it goes. It's like you deliver food that also makes you hungry because you're like smelling people's food and ship and then you like, well, I made five dollars off
that I gotta get something to eat. And then you the five dollars gone and you're like, all right, well I'll just deliver some more food. And then you deliver that food, you like, I'm hungry again, and you just it's like a weird fucking thing you're in. You just make no profit, Like it's terrible. What other jobs did you didn't you all like I think your house that or something. Didn't you do some of those apps? I
would house it, I uh house that. I would I use this app what was it called task Rabbit, And I was terrible at making furniture. I would do like the Ikea Furniture Ship, but I was getting so many bad reviews. I made a crib and the baby fell like it was like all funked up and uh. And then like I was like, all right, well, I'm only gonna do like pet sitting in house sitting because then I get to stay in a nice crib and I get to just chill and I could just charge a lot.
And I was doing it for a very short amount of time because I was sucking girls in the cribs and somebody had like a camera something. Somebody found out I sucked in their crib and it was over. Like it was like bad reviews all of the ship, and I was kicked off task rapping task grap It was
making money too, I was making money off task grabbing. Damn. Okay, Okay, So was there ever a point in your career where the struggle hit where you had to like possibly reevaluate or did you have pressure coming in where people were like, maybe you should just quit and get a day job. The funny thing is, like I think with stand up is funny because like people don't care about stand ups enough to tell them to quit. They just look at
you like you're stupid for even trying. It's like the idea of them telling you that quit doesn't even come into their head. They're just like, really, you do stand up, and they just walk out like that. There's no like second sentence. I interviewed a couple of comics like Lunell Earthquake, and one of the things that they have pointed out which I never even thought about. I don't know if anyone ever thinks about this when it comes to comedy.
But if you're listening to like your favorite Beyonce or jay Z record, you go to their concert, you want to hear the same song you know that you've literally played in your your CD or your you know, your AirPods a million times. But with comedy, you never want to go to a comedy club and hear the same joke.
So I started to think, I think, out of all the jobs in the entertainment business, yours job has to be the most stressful because you're dealing with council culture and you're also dealing with like constantly like re re re coming up with new materials, So like how do you find that balance? Like how are you able to like are you sitting at home? Like I gotta right today, Like I want to know like a day in the life. I'm very lucky to be like just a like I'm
a prolific creator. As my management say, um, I come out my turnover rates really high, but I feel bad for niggas whose turnover rates aren't high. Like my turn of rate is very, very high. What do you mean by turnover rate? Like how quickly I could come up with new material? Like it's very fast. Like if I if I do a set on Comedy Central, I could burn that material. I don't like to, but I could burn that material and come up with a new set
pretty fast. Now, like every year, at this rate, I'm probably thirty new minutes a year, which is pretty fast from my from my point, But at some point when you're like twenty years and you're like Kevin hart bur you know these niggas, it's like you should be able to come up with like an hour a year, which is nuts. Nuts, but I'm not there yet. Now, when you release a joke online and it trends, that's technically considered you're retiring a joke. You're going retiring of a joke.
I'm very on defense about that. I don't know what do you mean spill it? If I mean it's not on contract, I don't have to retire it. It's like one day if a special comes out and there's something that's online where I feel like, oh this would make history and especial, I might just delete off the Internet and put it in the special because it's my content.
I'm the one you shared it. I own it still, Okay. So, because one of the comics that I had interviewed in the past has said, like, you know, once you release a joke, you really shouldn't say it again on stage, Like, how do you feel about that? I disagree. I highly disagree, because it's like who's seeing it, even if it goes viral, even if it's like three million views, which like I have stand up jokes that have like three million views, that doesn't mean that like when you do a show,
whoever is there has seen the joke. Your fans have, for sure, But to me, the concept of putting out a special or something like that is to gain new fans. So it's like, your new fans aren't going to be people that have seen that joke. When you do a random show at the comedy club, guarantee you the crowd has not seen that joke. It's just like viral is
not that big now. I would consider so people. Different people have reached out to me about you and said, okay, they would compare you to a Chappelle And they say that bainly because you strategy. You you straddle the almost cancel culture. Like you say the ship that is like that's just funny, but like you know, like do you ever get nervous when you're writing content where it's like a little bit scary in the cancel culture arrange? Have
you ever faired cancel culture? No? Not not no, not material what So there's never been a point where you were like, I like this joke, but I don't know. No, but I haven't pressured into dropping jokes, which very like
is inner turmoil all the time for me. Can you give us like an example, I have a joke about Asian people that I got pressured into dropping once the Asian hate things started happening, and I was really annoyed because you're I find it's like the people that get offended at the jokes aren't the people the joke is about. It'll be like you write a joke about Indian people and a whole bunch of white people get mad. You'd be like, nigg this is even about you and Indian
people smacking their knees. This is so funny. We do like curry, you know what I mean. Like and it's like, but the white people be like this is not age, or like black people be like upset for Spanish people, Like it's never the people the joke is about. It a whole bunch of people that feel bad for the people got it. It's like it's just annoying. Like I had people tell me you dropped the Asian joke, but when I would do it after the shows, Asian people
be taking pictures with me. They'd be like, man, the joke was so great. Finally, some are you talking about us, like this is what you talked about. That makes sense because if black people I'm just speaking from black perspective, if we hear a joke that's clown of black people, we're gonna laugh, So I'm gonna throw a wild card in here. Um, well, I got a couple more. I got some questions before I thought the wild card just remind me to to have a wild card in here.
That's probably not gonna want to answer, but um, has there ever been like another comedian that gave you some advice that like was pivotal? I know you personally told me stuff about Bill Burr is my favorite comic, like one of my favorite comps, or gave me great advice. Yeah, can you share some of that advice? I was about
to tape something for Comedy Central. It's like my first like straight up stand up set didn't have to do with the TV shows like straight up they were I mean, technically it's a show, but it's like they were just doing stand upon it And I was super excited, but I was like nervous about what material to choose. Is like fresh out of the pandemic. Pandemic is still going on,
so I was rusty, and uh I asked him. I was like, man, there's certain bits I want to like say for a special one day, And he was like, what are you saving for? Like like your he just see me do stand up. He's like, you're funny. He's
like believing your talent. He's like believing your talent. He's like, if you believe in your talent, that means do your best material because you could die tomorrow and this will be your legacy and then come up with new material and it should be better than the previous material because it's new. So like, don't ever hoard material for a rainy day because that ra any day may never might never come. And he's like, that's all ego telling you, like,
I'm gonna have a special one day. I'm gonna have this. It's like, you don't know that you have an opportunity right now, put out your best ship and then move forward. Yea. He was like, if you if every chance, he said, every chance you get to be on TV or do stand up in front of a mass audience, that's a chance to get fans, to get industreated, like you to get everything to work in your favorite career. Wise, so
do your best ship, Like don't hold back. It was really good advice because I was about to hold back. Is there anybody else that gave you something that was like stuck out? There's so many I had a comics, tell me. Derek Gaines, he told me never played to the back of the room. That was big early in my career. That means don't play to the comics. So some comedians do stand up the back of the room. The idea of the back of the room is like comedians will hang out in the back of the room.
They don't say they hang in the back room because there's no seeds for comedians. And some comedians will very much try to make the comedians in the back of the room laugh and it's like because it's like it's almost high school. It's like very like I'm the I'm funny you guys, right, But the crowd would be like because crowds and comics don't laugh at this aime ship. Yeah, So like that was very good advice. He was like, comics will never pay your bills, like these niggs to
dap you up after the show. They're not gonna pay your bills. The people in the crowd are gonna pay your bills one day. Now, what's like the worst situation you had when it came to hey, Because I'd imagine that the more successful you get, there's gotta be little issues of hate or something that creeps in, right, I mean, comics talk shit, but comics are always gonna talk shit. I don't I don't really face any crazy Hey, I'll tell you what when I did that, Comedy Central said
that burging me advice one. I did a joke about white women getting shot by the cops, and two days later after it got released, the insurrection happened and the white lady got shot by like like a security guard or something. He wasn't even like a cop, but he was like a security guard for like the capital or whatever.
And man, they was on the internet acting like I was psychic or Illuminati, like they it's so dumb, like everybody is so conspiracy theorists about anyone in show business, like so like she got shot and they was like, you know that comedian just talked about it, and and then it happened real mysterious, like real type type of energy. And I was like, niggad, I'm not like, I don't know,
I'm sorry, like it's just a joke. So, speaking of like how people respond to certain things, I have to ask you, Um, I don't even know if I even asked you about your view on the whole. And I don't want to bring it up. I really am. I want to retire just for the sake of everyone's health, mental health in this. But it came to the Will Smith Chris Rock slap fuck Will Smith firmly, I will say that on the podcast Fuck Will Smith. Yeah, I don't care fuck Will Smith. Why Uh, that's he knows.
He knows at this point he was wrong. If I say funk Will Smith. And I'm a comic, he if he was to ever see this, he wouldn't be shocked. He's had other people say fucking I'm sure since but I mean, um, it's terrible for stand up Like you are sending a precedent where it's like, if you get offended up something that comedian says, you can literally physically
attack them. That's crazy. And not only is it sending the president, but it's like the level of precedent is like you smacked our king, Like there's nobody bigger than Chris rock Like Chris Rock. You are smacking stand up. You are saying like if Chris Rocking gets smacked, any of these niggs can get smacked because he's the he's the biggest and the best, he's the most legendary, so it's like, if you smack him, it's open season for everybody.
So okay, so I understood, although he's working, it's like he smacked him while he's working, Like I don't understand. It's like his job is to do what he did. I definitely it was so funny because I actually don't watch I think it was a m it was the Oscars. The Oscars. I'm not one of those people that watch the Oscars. You know. My husband is like an actor,
actor slash comedian, so he lives for that stuff. And the one time I'm watching it, I see the slap and I'm like, oh, is this is what I've been missing? Like I said, oh my god, I thought it was stage. I was like immediately went to my phone because I was like YouTube will have clips in seconds. I'm like refreshing, like what's that real? And I was like, oh ship, I need to watch this show more. Like I did not know, but you know, of course I understood the perspective.
You can't hit a comment, you know, there's multiple reasons. But then the softer side of me was like, you know, Will Smith's been in the game a long time and there's so much pressure, and especially like it's one thing when you're like Cat Williams. Cat Williams has his bad boy, So when Cat Williams gets in trouble and goes to jail, it's like we're like, oh, it's Cat Williams, you know. But Will Smith has this like squeaky clean personality. And I felt like, you know, I don't want to know.
I know us as women, we put a lot of pressure on our guys, like like, you know you're in a great relationship when you can yell at your guy and he just like shrugs his shoulders like whatever, like you know, she's crazy today it's Tuesday, like for real. But you never know because sometimes women we put our men under pressure. So I don't know, like I don't know what was going on in their relationship for him
to like just snap. But I definitely think that that in the industry, so much pressure that it's like I think him saying I'm sorry for me was enough to be like that's fine. We're human, Like I've snapped on people that I Here's my issue with the apology, right is it came months later and that night he apologized to the whole academy and all the actors. But he didn't apologize to Chris Rock. It's like, literally, the night you smacked that nigger, you had a chance to apologize
to him, and you avoided apologizing to him. You apologize to everybody else in the room, you didn't apologize to the person you smacked. To me, if you wait months and then apologize, it's like, okay, like I hear it. I mean good, it's not a bad thing. Well, now I know if I piss you off, just apologize within a certain time frame. I mean, he literally smacked this
dude on National TV. Apologize that night. If you're gonna apologize to anyone, Yeah, I feel like every comic is going to agree with you, because most most comics, you'd be surprised. But most comics, well there's some that are like comics that are like, well, you know, will you know his wife been like shut up, man, I mean, if you gotta think, Will Smith contributed a lot of happiness to a lot of kids. I love Will Smith. That's my favorite TV show ever. Yeah yeah, but now
used to be my favorite actor. To that smack, I think you'll forgive him. I think so if he went do you think he can even walk into a comedy club right now. Probably not. I mean, he could walk into anywhere a celebrity. I'm saying, though, do you think he would get like booze or like some kind of shade from comics. I'll tell you what. I've seen rock walk into a comedy club since, and I've never heard innovation like the ovation they gave Rock Terrorist came to
my eyes. I've never been so moved by innovation. I couldn't even imagine what he was feeling. Yeah, Like I think fans of comedy very much are like, we love you, Chris, Sorry that happened, you know. It's also just like a bully move, like look at Chris Rocket, look at Will Smith, Like I don't think Will would. I know that we've all heard this, but like, I don't think we would have done that to fucking like insert if Bernie Mack
was still alive or you know what I'm saying. Like he very much like picked who to do it too, And it's like that to me, rubs me the wrong way. But that's the thing. It seemed very impulsive, So I don't know if it was like one of those things where he was like I'm gonna get Chris. How implosive was it? He laughed at the joke first, like he laughed at the joke, and then he looked at Jada and he was like, that's what I think women put men like you just never know what's going on in
someone's relationship. I think that, Like I'm not saying she used to blame, but you never know, like what is going on that contributing Maybe he was clowning at home and I don't know. Stuff took the time, but you want this man. Is The sad thing about it is it's truly just the disrespect of the art form because it's like, well, is the same person who months prior to this happening had a whole series about how you want to learn how to do stand up and he
invited all these comedians on and help him. And he was getting into the stand up art form and he loves it. And I don't want to do it, but I just want to do it as a hobby. I want to get to experience it. It's like you love stand up, but you don't love it enough to respect it as like a respect people like craft and work, you know what I mean, Like you wouldn't smack anybody else were they working like you have to. First of all,
he's the best worker that we have. Yeah, yeah, it's like the most professional stand up comedian is Chris Rock. That's why he hit Will back. No, he handled it well. But speaking of I don't want to get spent too much time on Will Smith, you know, just a little smidget because I want to get more out of you. So, what a lot of you guys don't know is that Eagle and I have a definitely age difference. We're not going to say what it is, and so we grew
up a little differently. And so I want to know a little bit of your backstory because I missed the chapter of where the inspiration came for you to pursue comedy. And I also want to know a little bit about what your childhood was like, Um, everyone told me to do stand up? How do you want to do this? Ship? Truly, when you say everybody like, who friends mom, I could say mom, because we got the same mom. You're the
same parents. But yeah, I left home at six. You know there's a there's an age difference, But like WHOA what environment did you grow up in? I'd say um, you know. Mom was like, uh, it was just me and mom. It's just me and mom. Mom was going through a lot of mental stuff and Mom would cry a lot, like every day, and I'd come home from school and just tell her like funny stories literally from like elementary school, and she was just crack up, start laughing.
And we watched Comic View all the time, We watched friends, we watched anything that was funny kind of get through the pain. And she would always be like, you funnier than everybody on TV, Like you cracking me up with your little school stories. She's like, you could do that, you could do We watched Comic View, which isn't you know, but whatever, it's not the best, but we watched Comic You She'd be like, you could do that, you could
do better than them. But I was like a little kid, I'm like, no, this is stupid, Like she's crazy, she doesn't know what she's talking about. But then in school, like I started having friends. I would hang out with colleague. I always give him credit first friend that He was like, nig you're stand into comedian. You just don't know, Yeah,
you're funnier than everybody. And that was like young that was like third, like real young, and uh it started spiraling where other friends with kind of hair colleagues say, or they start feeling the same way, you know, you should do stand up, you should do stand up. And I always be like, no, no, no no, I'm not a clown because I didn't respect it. That's an interesting thing about the art form is it is very not respected because people just don't know what goes into it. And
I originally didn't respect it. I was like, I'm not a clown. That was my response. But then I was like, you know, like twenty one and like what am I gonna do? And it could be homeless, like I didn't have anything to do with my life. I was in community college. Like I was like, you go to college and you're sitting Okay, so you're sitting there in class and you're still debating like the hallway Holly that girls. I never went to class, So then where does this
epiphany like screw it, I'm gonna try it. Uh. I was well, when I got out of high school, I was thinking like something comedy related, but I was really scared to get on stage. So I was like making like YouTube videos and like stupid ship like that, but it wasn't really getting in the track. I was just scared to get on stage, and uh, Dad took me. He was like, well, let's go to let's see what
type of stage stuff you might want to do. So he took me to the U c B at the time that when it was open is Improv place and I watched improv is like a Saturday night and I was like, not this, Like I don't want to be on the team with a whole bunch of people all happy, go lucky improv and stuff. Uh. Then he took me to the Comic Strip and it was late night. My boy to this day, Jordan Rock Chris is a little brother.
Ironically in this conversation, he was on stage. He's around my age, and I remember watching him and being like, oh, he's funny and he's close to my age. I feel more like maybe this is something. And it got his info and I started hitting him up every day like, bro, I'm scared to get on stage. What do you think? And he's like, let's just try and error, Like you go up, you try stuff, it doesn't work, fix it,
do it again. And I understand it for months and then one day I kind of cracked and just tried it. I hated it quit for three weeks. You convinced me to get back. I was gonna say, I remember getting a phone call from you saying like I'm going to try it, and and you you went up one time. I think you said no, I'm good, and I was like, I think my advice was shitty advice kind of. I
was like, just try it three times. You could like drink and get how you can just figure out how it is and just try at least three times before you quit. And then like you did stand up like one more time and you were like, yeah, I'm good. You never did drugs to do it either. All it took was one great response from the crowd. I remember the joke. What was the joke? It was, I just turned twenty one. I don't drink, so I google what you can do at your age, and you can adopt kids.
So I'm gonna adopt the seventeen year old and boss them around. And it was like like bit about how I basically adopted Nigga who's basically my age, and like yeah, like a huge response. People clapped and ship and I was like this is like I want to do stand up. This is great. So when you started doing stand up, did a lot of girls enter the scene like, oh my god, Like because I've seen I've gone out with you. I almost walked into rooms with disclaimers like I'm his sister.
Definitely don't want him. You can have him type attitude, like do you think that being a comic, there's a lot of like girl fans or with every comic or just just select for you. I'll say this, I got pussy before stand up, Like there's a lot of comedians who definitely like lean on. There's a lot of people in show business in general. I feel who lean on like I'm this person and girls like that, and now I lean on that to get girls. To me, that's just toxic and very tricky borders. I don't do that.
Like I was getting girls before stand up, get girls after stand up during stand up, like it's not about stand up. Stand up does help, yeah, yeah, but you know I was chilling before. So I don't know where we are time wise, but um, but I do want to know is there any interactions would say someone that you looked up to that was like oh bad, Yeah, Like was there a celebrity and you can name drop.
I'm not doing that. That's okay. Well, can you just tell trying to rule my career every celebrity i'm has been wonderful. Well, celebrities aren't like someone because they're not like agents managers. But I guess they can still hate on you a little bit, like what if they want you to go on road or something. Now that comedians are the most helpful people in my career, everything I can, everything I've gotten in my career I can attribute to a comedian. Industry has not given me ship straight up.
I'm sure they hate to hear this on camera, but it's the truth fixative. You guys don't like it. Like comedians have helped me get everything, even stuff I've gotten from industry, it's been like started through a comedian down lines. At some point they got my foot in the door. So when you're gonna tape, when you taped Comedy Central, you get how does it work? Like sell us the scene, Like tell us what you're doing when you get the phone call that you're about to do this, Like I
want to know all the details and emotions. Three or four times I've done three, Three or four times I've done Comedy Central. The first time I was I did This Week at the Seller TV show that was on Comedy Central for a couple of seasons. I was the new comic at the Seller. That was like getting all the spots right, new young guy. Everybody loved me. ST at the Seller loved me, and it was very much just like they were taping it. It was a Seller show.
They were pushing all these comics on ST that weren't past the Seller. I was someone who was passed, who was a new young buck. I they were like st kind of helped book the dates, so she threw me a bunch of dates for tapings. But that doesn't mean you're gonna get on. You have to kill. You have to be topical. I killed was topical got on and like I would love to say more about like my little ideas and like what went on that helped me get on, but I'm not gonna do that, But I
will say I killed. I got on. It came out great, very happy. What was your emotions at the time, though, like, especially as your first Comedy Central, Like what were you so nervous? I was so nervous. I remember the first hyping that got on. I fucking hate cringeworthy to this day just looking at it. Oh, I gotta find that I did a joke about um because it's all topical.
We get to sell her, which, by the way, super hectic the way they make us right, it's literally it's like the day of they give you the topic, you gotta write a joke and then doing your front of a live audience. So the joke I did was about how Trump had pardoned asap Rocky. Oh, okay, okay, I think the joke, the joke hit. People like it, But I watched it and I'm like, boy, did I stumbled through that wording because I was so nervous. I was so frea nervous. It's like my first time. I don't think.
I definitely don't remember seeing any stumbles. Oh, every time I see it, I noticed, I'm like, oh what then? Was I saying? Do you watch all your stuff? Because I know some comics that will not watch like they're taped. Really, I'm gonna be honest, I don't think Darius watched his Netflix. Really, I will say it say it so it's not easy, but I watched really are you now? Are you one of the comics that still record all your sets, so you don't records the audio, okay, and do you play
them all back? I used to when I was like starting out, I'm real bad at it. Now I'm real bad actually listening to them. But occasionally if I need something like last night you saw me, I did a new tag off the top of the head that was crisp, like it perfect and hit. I'm going to go back and listen and figure out how I worded that. Now, you you don't do open mics anymore? Correct? Now when you have a new joke, are you working it out
during your paid sets? Yeah? Oh wow, that's good. That's good. Yeah, you're you're you're extremely confident in like you know, at this point, I'm confident that I can make any set go well. So, like, you know, you got a new joke. Depending on the room you in, you might just do new jokes, you know what I mean, Like, you're so confident in that room. But like if I'm at the seller or something like, that's a high pressure room. It's like I'll throw it towards the middle of the set.
Maybe you know what I mean, or or it won't be the first time I've said it. Maybe I said it a couple other times in other places. But either way, if the joke goes bad, I'm confident in my skills now that one joke going bad isn't going to ruin the set. I can quickly flip it into something that kills and then just kill for us a set. So for new comics, like what's a day in the life of a comic that's arrived? Uh, waking up whenever you'd like, um and uh, you go out to night and go
just It depends where you live too. I mean in New York it's like literally every day you're working and you're doing multiple sets to night, So like what hours are you working? Like like eight pm? Too? Like three pm? Like what are your hours? I can leave the crib around seven some nights and get home at two in the morning. Um, or I could leave some nights at
nine and get home at like midnight. It depends on the night, but usually the earliest I'll be out of the crib used on average is like seven, and the latest I'll be in the crib Now that I got a girl, it's like it's like two three okay, okay, really I remember coming to New York a couple of times and hanging with you. I tried. I tried very hard to hang out with him and be that supportive sister. When he comes to l A, I call myself like his uber driver. This was before he had a license.
Like I would be like, Okay, I'm going to be a suber driver. His his little cheerleader or his number one fan, I'd say, and then um. But when I come to New York, it was almost like I would have to literally put like a red Bull drip in my veins because I mean it got to the point I got to a certain age I was like, look, bro, just just bring me a chop cheese at a Snapple like when you get back, because that was your thing
at night. Yeah yeah, and you would get home in like four or five and that would be like pretty much my breakfast and your dinner. Yeah for sure. I mean stand up in New York is like real, Like there's a reason there's been like TV shows about it and ship I mean it, it is truly the mecha,
like it's constant. I look at comedians as entrepreneurs because you know, from an outside perspective, you know you're thinking about you know, your art, right, you're putting your art out, but you have to manage like your bookings and your times and being on time and your negotiations and how you're gonna like build this career. So it's funny that you know, from like an audience perspective, you're like, oh,
this guy's just charismatic and he's funny. But you know, and then you know also the fact that we're like make me laugh. Like you know, you go to comedy club, You're like, make me laugh, dude, Like that's why they serve alcohol, right, But then it's like knowing you guys up close, it's just like there's so many attributes to comedy that I'm like, the whole world doesn't even like consider.
And then, like you said, it's almost like people just don't respect the craft, even my I was thinking about the entrepreneur entrepreneurial level the other day because I was
I was talking I was talking about girl. I was talking to her about, um, how comics like that aren't getting doing doing standard for a living, can't like some of them can't wrap their head around or put the energy into the concept that like the way you turn this into how you pay your bills is a slow build of like, Okay, I'm making this much amount every month guaranteed. Okay, now next month, if I add these rooms, these comedy clubs, I'll be making that much a month
every guaranteed. You know what I mean. It's like, eventually you get to a point where you're guarantee that you're going to bring in a certain amount every month because you've just built it that way. Like my earliest books of like counting every month. I was making like a hundred and sixty bucks in January, eighty bucks in February. You know what I mean, for the whole month, for the whole month, but was for The thing is when you're doing what you love, like you you counting those
twenty dollars, you know what I mean? Like, damn made this month off? Stand up, I'm fucking made it. My god good. Were the comedy clubs feeding you? Because most times, when I know, these com clubs don't feed you until they give you half off. Oh dagny. Occasionally you get fed, but by the time you getting fed by comedy clubs, you already got enough money to pay for your own ship. But in the beginning, when you're starting, they don't give
a funk. They like, yeah, do this stand up? How long did it take you to go from I mean, we really want this transparency, but like, I know you've been at this for a while, but how long did it take you to go from eighty dollars a month to get to where you're at where you're like, you know, I know you're doing well. Surprisingly not that long like a year or two. Okay, it's a year. Well, I mean for most people like living on eighty dollars a month for years, but I mean it feels like forever.
But it didn't feel like that to you. Don't feel like that, especially because just like you know, it's like eighty and then it's like you hit a certain point in the year you're making like two hundred dollars a month. But you gotta think about it. That's like a ducking upgrading your one. You feel like you damn I'm doing something like a month like you feel because you gotta think. This is how I used to say. It's my comedian friends, I'd be like, nigked if you had someone tell me
this too. They were like, he's at the time Nico told me this, so I'm actually stealing from him He's like, if you make four dollars a month, that's a metro card. Boom, that's a bill paid off jokes, you know what I mean. You make a hundred dollars a month, that could be dollar slices all month. You know what. It just it just adds up and before you know, you're like, oh, I'm paying rent, I'm paying for food, real food, metal card, you know what I mean? Before you don't you like
I could get some sneakers. You're actually making money, you got paid taxes. Yeah, Now, there was never a point in your career where you thought, nah, no, okay, effects so okay, okay, So what piece of advice would you give to a comic coming into the game. Just worry about being funny. Worry about being funny for real. Just do as much stand up as you can. Worry about being funny. And if you suck and you're terrible after years and years, after like five years, nigga quit now.
But wait, no, I agree. So I'm just curious now that you say that, because I meet guys that are like rappers or they think they're they're rappers, you know, but passion, but you know, like they're like not good rappers and they're at it for like ten years. You know, you meet that forty five year old guys selling CDs. I don't know why guys are still selling CDs on there.
I don't know why nobody's playing the CD playing. I feel so bad in Los Angeles and they'll be harassing signing CDs and I'm like, where are they gonna play this? Where are they going to play I haven't seen a CD player or DV actually, I don't even know where he thinks burn the CDs at record. But when you see these forty year old guys that are still rapp and you're like, you know, like I used to have a rule, like I wouldnt even date someone in the industry.
I didn't want to run lines, I didn't want to do any of that stuff, you know. But with comedy, like even seeing your growth, you were funny, you were always funny, but your level of funny right now is like I describe Eagle, and it's not because he's my baby brother, because I have no problem keeping it real with people. Were just avoiding the conversation to not keep it real with people. But but when I describe you,
I'm like, oh, he's going to be a legend. He's going to be up there with the Richard Priors because of the style of comedy, Like, I have no doubt like the way you write, and I would love to know before we close out, like how you like what your writing processes. Like, I don't know if you're eating lunch with your girlfriend and she does something quirky and you're like me, write about that ship, or or you're joking with your homies and then you make a joke
and then you write it. I would love to know, like genuinely, like you asking right now because I thought you was gonna say yeah, I I. Well, there's two ways. So one way is if we're chilling, were talking and I say something funny. I've gotten to a point now where I could tell the difference between like funny and convo funny and funny that I could actually translate on stage and kill with. So if I say something funny and convo and it's that level where I could translate
on stage, I'm like, okay, I'll take that. Also, it has to be what I care about talking about, because now I'm at a point where I didn't think a lot of comedians get to this point most comedians get
to this point. You get to a point where you're so good to stand up that you could like make anything funny, Like you could be, like, write a joke about this napkin, and by the time we get out of here, by the time you get done with your next interview, I have ten jokes about that napkin, and eight of them bitches be funny, but we made challenge them, but gone for real, for real. But when you get to that point, you start going, I don't want to
just talk about anything because now it's boring. So you very much find the ship you care about and the ship that makes you laugh, and the ship that makes you go and wonder and think, and you go, I'm gonna right about that. So like in convo, if I'm talking about something I care about, something that's fun to me, interesting, right about that, or like it's popping my head when I'm on the train, write it down but it has barely Like I don't write the way I used to.
I used to fill notebooks front and back pages very much, so like I very much will write down an idea and then I go on stage and kind of freestyle it, record the set and keep on shaping it and sculpting it like Plato, got it, got it all right? All right? Yeah, I don't know if I missed anything, but I will tell you this. This is uh, this has been. They were saying, I'm the best guest you ever had. That's what they were saying. That was what I was looking
over here. I appreciate you, yo, thank you many did they say? That's what they said, I'm the best? He said, five minutes left? They said, top five, top ten minutes left. Ten minutes left. He said, I what's the time on the clock. He said, you got no minutes left? He said, I'm the best. Well, thank you so much for uh for you know, I've had the dollar slice with you before, but thank you, thank you for making my life easier
and making this an easy dish. This is the brokest version because we've got little cups of water with the slices and we don't have the hot sauce to fake the pepperoni. Yeah the slice is cold. Yeah yeah no, but thank you so much. Ego ego with for y'all, and what's your Instagram ego with official? Thank you Ego with official if you guys want to catch Ego with You're more than likely going to have to be in New York. Otherwise you have to go online stalker's Instagram
find out what city is. I think you can actually am him. Oh, I do have one last question. I know we're gonna go over time, but confessions your confessions on Instagram. I'm not a big Instagram person, but he has this thing where you go on Instagram and he tells his fans like confessions. I've never seen it before, but if you go on Eagles Instagram, his fan base is absolutely hilarious. It is better than scrolling through Instagram. When he opens up his confessions, people will go on
there admitting crazy stories. But then sometimes his fans will interact with the stories and like, a started doing that and that has nothing to do with me. That's their own creative yes, and it's funny. It'll be like I slept with my dad's sister's mom, and then the other person would be like, I'm the dad's sister's mom and let me tell you, and the stories take a turn for the for the best. But I don't think anyone
has a more creative and open fan base. They'd be admitted to like stealing each other boyfriends sleeping with they My boy told me, he was like, you need to talk show the way people open up to you. I promised following you on Instagram like I would say. When I see confessions go up, I think it's like what every thousand followers or something. That's that's the new thing
I've been doing every thousand followers. I'll do confessions, yes, and he'll be like, you know, if you don't know, He'll tell them the rules and it is on and popping. There is no better day than a confessions day on Eagles stories on Instagram. And I'm not even kidding you. If you're a fan of like Jerry Springer or any of the above, it's entertaining, especially when the fans interact with each other and they just they like feed off
the crazy ass stories. Yeah yeah, yeah, So shout out you can catch ego with or confessions that ego with Official um and thank you so much for being my guests, New York edition. Piece out y'all for more eating while broke from I Heart Radio and The Black Effect, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
