B SIMONE - Spaghetti Alla Impossible

was like, she's gonna be ferocious. She's gonna be ferocious to me, and I'm terrified. Now, I was like, are you crazy? I was terrified because I was like, I don't believe that I promised you. I was washing this just like, oh, I don't know how to tell Dolly this and writing and your ribs are great. She so nice to me, and I was like, thank you Jesus.

Sometimes they could be hard and you don't know. But I want people to know this because sometimes you see someone on camera on your phone and you assume stuff about them when you don't know, and it's just like, I meet you and I have this amazing story to tell, and I want people to know the other side, I'm trying to keep my energy and I'm actually really really tired, and you know how that goes. I'm like making sure my energy is up because I'm actually excited to do this.

I've never done anything like this. Yeah, cooking on camera. Yeah, like cooking and you know, and then you got to cook your broke dish. Yeah. She can't even put on a girl show for us. She got Yeah, but one day, you know, she invite us. You know, maybe we could have her rich dish. Yeah, rich dishes like like Chipotle. So I eat Chipotle every day all the time. I had it today. I'm gonna have to find out at

the end of the interview. What be Simona orders Chipotle? Yeah, because I like, oh, I feel like you're gonna be healthy. I order all the like. But see what you thought always vegan. I'm not vegan. I just don't. I'm pesketarian, Like I eat salmon sometime, but I don't eat meat. But I eat dairy. I'm actually fasting from dairy right now. But why because I'm doing a seven day fast with my team so we can have clarity because we have something coming up in eight days. Oh, I'm we're about

we're about to learn. What do you have us eating today? Okay? So we are eating spaghetti, y'all. But today it's a little different than my struggle male because when I used to struggle, I was eating meat, so it was like regular ground beef. But now I haven't had meat for six years excluding seafood. Um, So we're using impossible meat and now I've never you're not even going to know. If you didn't know, you wouldn't know. Well, I'm just curious to see, Like, how do you know an impossible

meat is cooked? Because I would assume it's fake meat. It's brown. Oh, well, you're gonna today, so we're gonna have and then what are you gonna name this? So when we're looking at the cookbook, what is be simone spaghetti going to be called? Oh my god, can I think about that is gonna be called? I was gonna be You got to the end. Why don't you start cooking for okay? Okay, okay, let's go to the kitchen. That's giddy. So first I wait, am I telling you how I do it? Tell me? Yeah, you gotta walk

us through it. First of all, I don't cook, Okay, I don't go to the grocery store. You know, I don't have a car, which I talked about all the time, so I'm definitely not going to get no groceries. I uber eat. I eat out. So when was the last time you've in the kitchen? When he was wrote, Yo, that's where I wanted to be out. Okay, guys, I want to be like the last time I wasn't again. Now what's the last time I cooked? Oh? I did get high? Can I say that on here? You can say, okay,

this is and I'm not gonna lie. I made some cookies baked. Did you actually make them from scratch? For the little bit scratch tall house? They like that. My cousin came over and she bought them. But that was like, okay, the little squares you just put on the things I know. I love my brother, I love them. Oh my god. Just for the record, you should always keep that in your house. So like if we go on your fridge,

there's no food, nothing is there water? Like what I go into your house and like, smote, I'm gonna hit that fridge. I open it. Did not do that. There's nothing. There's alivera plant because the hookah fell in my lap the coal and I had on shorts and I had to heal that. So I rub alivera in between my thighs daily. But other than that, there's nothing in my fridge. I didn't know el overt could do that. It helps. You got the actual quant. Okay, so we go in there.

It's like we're gonna starve to death. There's not even leftovers of what Oh my god? Okay, okay, but if we have leftovers of this, can take it? Yeah, yeah, go for it, all right. So what we're gonna do? She wants to take her. That's how you know someone's real. All right. She boiled the noodles already for us. So they're right there because he was not about to boil them. You know, they take a little long. Did you test to see me? Was ready to throw it on the wall.

You want to start throwing out because and we have the impossible meats? You guys oil with that? Okay, well, we're gonna take a little bit of oil here. Let me oh, I know I got out of shot. Hold on, I'm sorry. Guys. Have y'all ever had like you never had, like a vegan burger? Yes, like sluty vegan or something like that, or like, let me tell you before I leave, I'm gonna have slutty vegan. Girl. You don't even you wouldn't even know. It's not so I love my guilty pleasure.

A lot of people don't know. This is like, uh, if anyone's in town and they're like, what do you want to eat? Thank you? You're so hilarious. He's a mother, she's a wife. Oh shit, I haven't done this in a long time. Oh god, I'm over here like crisco, all right, but a little bit of that. So I only assumed usually with ground beef, there's fat in it. I feel like you're gonna need more than that. More crisco. Yeah, I want to do too much grease. Oh really, No,

I'm learning. I mean, I don't know what impared. No, no, no, impossible. We're gonna figure it out together, all right. So we turned the oven on the stoves and we're just gonna put it in there, y'all. And now impossible me isn't me? It's not it's uh, there's one of these things. Oh yes, perfect, thank you. And then what we're gonna do is we have all this seasoning. I'm a pepper girl. I love pepper. We got Tony's. Don't put too much because you don't want you to clesh fraw to be out the root.

So we're gonna that. It was sizzling quick. Do you want Do you feel like you're on one of those contestant cooking shows. That's admit us to make this meal. It's oars sizzling quick. Oh it is turning brown. See for all y'all listeners, it's turning round. So I'm surprised you don't do like spaghetti with meat balls. Oh yeah, they had been possible meat balls. Oh no, I'm saying for your broth this you used to do ground ground beefs Yep? Was it because it was like cheaper and easier.

I just I grew up eating spaghetti all the time, spaghetti, hot dogs, burgers, drunk. You know I didn't really, You're right, I should have put more grease. This is too high. It's burning. I think it's not burning, but it's not okay, turning stick to the panda. So yeah, I didn't grow up eating healthy. So what was going on at the time when you were consuming hot dogs, spaghetti and all of that. Let's go back to Pleasant Girl. I just got back from Dallas, Texas. Um the house I grew

up in. Actually, my grandmother still stays there, literally, in the hood of Dallas, Pleasant Grove. You know, she has a nice hone. She fixed it up and stuff. But you know, older people, they ain't never gonna leave. So I'm like, you know, you want to stay here, you don't want to leave. Her daughter lives around the corner. She's been there her whole life. You know, she owns the house, so you know they're not gonna leave. But Pleasant Girl was where I'm from, and I mean, it's

the hood of Dallas. But you know what's crazy. When I was growing up, I didn't It wasn't like I felt like I grew up in poverty. I never knew, you know, until I was older, like an adult, and I was like, it's just like the hood. Now do you think that's because then the environment you were in was all the same or like what made you realize later I needed for nothing? It wasn't like I grew up in, like, you know, a horrible living situation. So

it was it was good. You know, all the fresh gear, did I I mean, yeah, I'm like, you know, and then you know, I got older. In high school, I started doing hair and my grandmother's kitchen. So I was making bank, y'all. In high school, I really thought I was popping. I started traveling and stuff because I was making so much money. I didn't have bills and I was living with my grandmother. So I mean for entrepreneur, very early early, And where'd you learn how to do

hair from? I taught myself. I just randomly started breaking my doll's hair. That's one moms it. So I randomly started doing hair, and then I was good at it. If I see something, I can do it. Yeah, you know how badly I want to learn how to do corn worl I'm gonna I'm gonna test out this theory on dolls. I guarantee it's not gonna come out as good as yours. Yeah. So I started making money. Your young entrepreneur, I did a lot of stuff. I was in network marketing. Like anything I put my mind to,

I could sell it. But I would only sell stuff I'm believe in though, so it didn't have to be like you know, so commercially and addie. I was like, if I like the product, I'm gonna sell it. Where did you get your entrepreneurs from. I don't know, was there there was no entrepreneurs in your family? Now up around, I'm like the first that I'm in. My dad's a pastor, my mom was a pharmacist. Yeah, my grandmother's are tired. So I used to always think that in order to

be an entrepreneur. Now you have just ended my theory that you had to have grown up in a home where you had came by one. I don't think so. So there's people that go to school for entrepreneurship, and I'm always like, but I feel like our generation is like, not first generation. Of course, there's been entrepreneurs for decades decades, but our generation is a lot of first generation millionaires

and entrepreneurs. Like it's like, you know, you know, we just have access to a lot of stuff, and when you believe you can do something, you literally can. So so I just knew. I was always in the arts. I grew up like dancing, acting, theater, doing hair, anything creative. I did not want to do anything outside of that. Going to get a job was never in my cards.

It was never even thought about it. No one in your household was like, get a job, Well, obviously you started obviously like I had 's like I was a waitress, I worked at um boutique I had, but I never I knew it was all temporary. Yeah, I used that to like save my money and at night I was in the studio where I was hustling or you know, doing doing hair. What was your childhood dreams? I wanted to be a hair stylist and do music. I wanted to own hair salons and be I thought I was

gonna be on story or something that never happened. Well, not each, not yet, not yet. So um, so you're you're actively you say you want to do hair and all this stuff, but you actually aren't doing it in high school. So technically you're hitting these milestones. So what happens? You end up moving the needle forward more every time you accomplish something. Yeah, and just you know, the more I did, the more I was never satisfied. So I always wanted the next name. That's a good and a

bad thing, y'all. Like when she reached that goal, it's like, Okay, what's next, what's next? What's next? But you also have to appreciate all the milestones that you did hit. I don't think I still think I have a problem with that to this day, Like I'm appreciating the milestones kind of like Okay, I did that, was next? I did that was next? Okay, great, Okay, what's next? Like I

did that already. I feel like one of the consistent things I noticed been interviewing successful, successful, successful people is that you guys hit the milestone and then you're like, what's next? So if that was good, she's kind of a drug, like I don't know, like that manifestation ship and like reaching your goals. It's just like proven to yourself and it's not a game. But it's like kind of like anything I say out of my mouth, anything

I put my mind too, is going to happen. I don't worry about the how, I don't worry about the wind. I just know what's gonna happen. Where do you think you get You got that from them? God? Seriously, God, Like it was just in me from birth. I don't, honestly don't know, Like I have no idea, just I was born with it. I guess. So looking at you today, you're a wall and out. You're a viral sensation influencer. That's what they say. What's the definition of sensation? Because

I'm canceled, You're canceled. That's good. That's good though it is honestly, it's really good because as long as people are talking about you, obsessing over you and watching your videos and having something to say, you're on everybody's mind, which because you slave it over the stone. This takes a while, it's I know, but it's just some still

a ran pieces. So was there ever point in your career coming up that you doubted yourself where something happened where you were like, Okay, maybe I'm doing a bit much. I wouldn't say doubt it myself, but it's definitely been mill stones, Like, I mean, you know, tough things to fight through, but I always knew. I never in my mind got to a point where I was like, this

isn't gonna happen. Never, But there was a point where there was like a little bit of oh my god, yeah, I've never been out the house I was living in. I was making a thousand dollars a week with no bills at like twenty years old. That is a lot of fun, like just doing hair and kicking it and traveling, and I you know, then I was like, Okay, I'm gonna save some money. I'm gonna get a car. I spent like seven grand on a car or something. And then I was working at a strip club, not stripping.

I don't think nobody would come see me shrip and I'll be doing the chicken hands. Um. But I was a waitress and I was like I had I hated it. I saved my money, got my car, and I was like, I'm gonna save up three thousand dollars. I'm gonna moved to Atlanta. Why Atlanta? It was either Atlanta or l A. In l A, I was like, in my mind, way too expensive. And I came to visit Atlanta a lot. I love the culture. I love kicking it with my people out here. I love the blackness. Yeah, I was

just saying that. Today I went out and it was the first time I went out and everybody was black everywhere. Yeah. The only dun type was I was at Walmart and I felt like all the shows were empty and I didn't know what we're trying to get. I was trying, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was trying to pick up your groceries, right, trying to pick up my struggle meal. But yeah. So I just moved with three thousand dollars. That money was going in a month. I was like, what, So then what

did you do? Girl? I got three jobs. I was waitressing. I uh, you know, served food at the tavern at fix Spots. I don't even know if that's there anymore. M I worked at a boutique shout out to Tea. He gave me my first little job out here or um yeah, and I did hear on the side, but it was bad and I didn't did you. Me and my best friend from Dallas moved out here. She and

she was one of the people that told me. She was like, if you do not move to Atlanta, then I'm not gonna be your friend of her, Like you're holding yourself back and you're meaning basically a great friend out to Pharaoh. Yeah. Yeah, so we struggled for a long time. I didn't have a bed for like six months. Yeah. I like that. I know. I let me tell you, like, when I was going through that ship, I was not

like woe is me. I was just like, this is my life right now, but as a temporary yes, And you have to remember that if you truly believe it, it will be temporary. I knew it was. Yes, I had nights where I cried, Yes I had stressful moments, but it was never like I'm sleeping on the floor. It was like, all right, we in grind mode, like I'm about to make it. I just gotta keep putting one for after. You can go back on my YouTube, y'all. Like when I first moved to Atlanta, I have YouTube

of me like playing gospel music. It's still on YouTube crying the video, like our our basement flooded. We were living in like the hood. Man, it was some get But this whole move to Atlanta was in person. What um I wanted have spaghetti sauce to this? Or yes, we're gonna mix it all together. Okay, I think, yeah, you probably need to go We're gonna mix it together. You so you want to add the sauce to the meat.

Is that how you do? Yeah? I haven't cooked spaghetti in a decade, so honestly, okay, But it just goes all together, right, it does. But you want you can't just put the noodles in here, right, Because we're gonna put all this in the pot. I'm gonna trust you to do it. That's that's smart and a little dry. You want it? Edit this out perfect? Add sauce. Yeah, let's put the sauce on jingles because they dry sauce. And then we're gonna endit me right, you're asking me.

We need our own cooking, so yep, and then we're gonna mix this all together. It is gonna be good. Slide this sad and then you need to heat it up again or no, let me see? Uh maybe not? I think you will? You do? Okay? Should I turn it all low for you? Yo? You need a cooking, so you need a cooking. You would be you would be great. So you're what was the mission for you coming out, say, Atlanta? What was your end goal in your mind? I'm gonna be a uh superstar. I'm gonna

do music. I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna do music. I'm gonna I mean, of course acting and I was always in theater. I never never thought about myself being a comedian. Stand up comedian is ever ever. So you're out here with jobs. How does a girl moving out here with three jobs, struggling pursuing music end up becoming be simone? As we all don't like what what happened. What were those moves that happened? Really? I mean I was in the studio every night, I was recording. I

put out a project. None of that stopped. Like I put out a project, it's it's still got music on iTunes and you can like look it up. Um, I make like ten dollars a month off of it. Nobody listens to that. Um. And you know I was in the studio. It was literally like get a bed or pay for studios. But once social media took off, like Instagram, I took advantage of that. If this is what's popping

right now, this is what I'm gonna use. And I took advantage of Instagram eight years ago when you know, it wasn't that many people on They're doing comedy, It wasn't oversaturated, it wasn't it was a brand new act. So you got an Instagram before fun? Yes, yes, I didn't have you didn't you know? I use Instagram, but I came from my Space. You know, use my space. I had my top eight, I had my music on my Space. I was, you know, yeah popular on my Space. And I took it to p Interest, and I took

it to Facebook. Then I took it to Instagram, so my I think my you know tribe or whatever followed me all over. But of course it was nothing like how it is now. But um, social media made me a comedian. I'm telling you all, people will tell you what they want from you. Do not without compromising who you are in your roles. Give the people what they want. I would post my music, it would get four thousand likes. I would post a comedy video, it would get four

hundred thousand. Well, I'm gonna give you all this, you know, and you can still do it in certain ways. Do a comedy skit and play your music in the background, or do a comedy skit and shout out to music later. But they didn't want my music, you know, so I gave them comedy. If you had to range yourself between entrepreneur, comedian, music artists talent on screen like after actress, which one would you say? Would you rate yourself as number one entrepreneur?

I was gonna say that. I didn't want to say you like sneur because everything is under that umbrella, and it's Jesus, I hate that click click What does that do? It's just it's just the light, the light lighting you're so cute. Should we put the top on? Let it get warm? You are absolutely adorable. Yeah, entrepreneur. Everything else

is under that umbrella. So entrepreneur is my comedy side, like, you know, doing stand up, studying that, selling merge, making people laugh, putting out a stand up special, having them watch, you know, like all of that is entrepreneurial. And then um be Simon beauty, cosmetic line, entrepreneur this, you know, and and there's so much of touch on with you because you're so multifacet I've watched you over the years,

and I've watched you. I want to say, I don't want to say it, and I get it wrong and then you but I want to say, I've watched you make your first million on Instagram. I watched you experience to tell you something, it was one of the best. I'm one of those people that get really happy for other people. You went a lot out. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, yeah,

go for it. But that was one of the first things I manifested publicly, like with my audience, and that's to me, not gonna tear up for sure, trying not to. I felt like from a woman's standpoint, that was not from a woman. Just from anyone's standpoint, it was monumental that you you literally opened up the behind the scenes and like what it felt like, and you documented it wild. It was one of the most amazing things I had

ever seen. And I I was I was impactive and it even from and you know how hard it took to take the chance. And I think in your case, you were buying the stuff up front. Yeah, so you needed it to sell, so you're like, you know, yeah, you were doing things. But even going into that, like people don't understand. Like the biggest lesson that I even got from it was the belief because I publicly said I'm going to be a millionaire. I said it first,

but not just to myself, not to my friends. I said it publicly, like on April five, I'm gonna have a million dollars in my account. Once the cameras went off, I was like, all right, Like, now what do we do? Like you, I believed it, though, like having that belief publicly and putting it out there are like y'all have to believe what you are saying and what you are chasing and what you are fighting for, Like it's the

belief you're not. People are so worried about how it's gonna happen and when it's gonna happen that they don't believe it's going to happen. Stop worrying about the how and the when. God got that. You just believe it's coming. Now. When you look at a project as an entrepreneur, do you look at your passion and like the vision of your your idea come into life, like your beauty line and came to life. Or do you look at the numbers gotta make sense? No, because it always don't make sense.

I got a thirty dollar be some own beauty fucking truck that I had a whole vision for it, and it's been sitting for a year at the warehouse. Like that didn't makes sense, But I I knew what made sense to me. Sometimes I lose money sometimes, like I'm not money driven, though I'm not scared to invest and lose money and put out money in hopes of something greater coming from it. I don't hold on into money like that. Do you ever get scared about going by

to a spaghetti No? No, because you even die forbid. If I did, I know how to get how to get out of it. You know what I mean, Like I did it once. Anything that you have done one time, you can do again. It's really really in you, like you can do it again. You know. But let's let's sit down, because I feel like I am You're literally at the soul for all y'all listeners. We've been talking this whole time. We haven't even set a right think about to make your plaints because I'm feeling like, yeah,

I'm gonna love it because I'm starving. Thank you and impossibly, she said, thank you, thank you so much. This is impossible. Like that's more than enough. Trust me, I'll be asking so many questions. We see I want to bager scoop. See okay, okay, I gotta get the good scoop. But out of stuff, get littlemo and flipped it like that. You know what I was kind of secretly hoping when I was shopping she would have added cheese, but then it was vegan, but you're not vegan. I'm not vegan.

I actually would have added cheese if I wasn't doing you know fast. Okay, Let's let's try this. Okay, their guy, thank you for this food. We're about to receive the nourishment. Of our bodies. And I hope she liked it. Amen, I will definitely like it. There's only three ingredients, y'all. Well, actually, I mean besides the season. So as far as affordability, this this is extremely affordable. Wow, you can't even say it's impossible meat. I had no idea, but it makes

me feel better knowing it's impossible meat does it? I feel like people that eat meat it makes them feel grossed out. Not grossed out, but like I won't want me. Oh. My guilty pleasure is eating at vegan restaurants, Like I just yeah, they have really good vegan. But then when I go to a vegan person or to tell them like the restaurant like, They're like, that's not real vegan. I'm like, oh really, okay, well I still like it. They're not real vegan. Maybe they like do raw they're

like the vegan. Yeah, I don't know what they expect, but this is the vegan that I'm talking about. It tastes like real food. Have you been to real food l A and in l A? But yeah, but apparently, how do you do interviews like this? Because that's so good? Yeah? Going going Almo, take another bite? Listeners will go home and make this. It's so good, y'all. The meat is busting tomato sauce. Oh, I'm glad you did get the sauce because I thought I was like, what if she

gets like the white sauce. Yeah. I like the white sause though, but oh but I mean it's theory in it. So that was that was bad looking out and no bees on this challenge. Wish me please pray for me because I eat a lot of dairy. Could you have predicted your success? Did you predict it? Yes? But I didn't know what it looked like. I knew I was going to be successful, but I didn't know what it looked like. That's all. When people asked, like, where do

you see yourself in five years? What do you see here? I'm like, I didn't see myself here five years ago, Like every little detail wasn't mapped out. I just knew I was going to be successful. I knew I was going to be financially stable. I knew I was going to be doing what I loved. Whatever that looks like. And that changes as you get older, and the things I cared about when I first started, I don't care about now you're like what the dream car? Like I

don't haven't had a car for three years. Like those are things that you you have on your list? This that, that, that the house. Do you think that's like a system of like coming from being broke, Because yeah, I do want the lamber getting yours for all those and that's fine, I'm saying, you know, like it changed as you got older, Like do I want this truly because I want this and it goes with my lifestyle and I need it and I truly desire in my heart? Or is this

what I see on Instagram? Is this what I see all successful black people doing? Is this what I've been conditioned to think I want? I don't want that. I actually love being driven around. I actually love sleeping in the back of black trucks without people talking to me. Actually love checking emails in the car and not worrying about making a left or right. I actually love not going anywhere when I'm in Atlanta and staying at home. Why do I need a car? I travel nine of

the year, you know what I mean? So when you really think about what you personally need, that changes, and don't let society or culture make you think you have to go out and get these things. I didn't get a car, but I did buy a diamond necklace and it looks amazing. But but but I like jewelry, you know, a little dainty. I love jewelry so cool. I got the jewelry, but I don't need the car. Cool people like buy property. Do I need a huge house right now? No,

I'm single with no kids. Get a condo, like you know what I mean. Just do what works for you. Do what works for you, don't do what society makes you think you need to do. Do you feel like you look at money differently from when you were broke. I look at it the exact same way. My mindset with money hasn't changed. I'm a little more like I have an accountant now, I have a financial advisor. Like I'm more um I would say educated with my money, where to put it, how to invest it. But I've

never had an attachment to money. Money just flows to me. To you, I feel like you'd use money as a tool to make more money, absolutely absolutely, But I feel like that was your relationship your entire life. I just want to be financially stable. You don't want to live paycheck to patrick. I want to be able to have convenience and live the way I want to live. Anything extra on top of that, it's just a bonus. So would you be comfortable taking me back to when you

were working those three jobs? But it was like quitting day. Oh my god, Like I want to know the quitting day or the fire. Yeah. I don't think I ever got fired, but I remember quitting. Here are out the hair are us, man, I never had my boothrin And them ladies was like, it's okay, we know we watched the tapes. You didn't do no clients, man, those my girls,

Cat and Ashley they had they hired me. I was a hair artist ambassador while working at their Salona here in Atlanta, and um, I remember telling them like, I'm making more money on social media than I am here and it just doesn't make sense for me to do hair anymore. Like I was over working for not a lot of money, you know what I mean. And I even if you're still a hair stalace or you have your own brand or whatever, you have got to find

a way to make money without labor. You have got to find a way to make money without physical labor. So if I am a hair styalus while I'm sleep. There should be something on my website that is selling. I should have a product. I should not only be able to make money if I am working. So you're talking about like sleep money, sleep money. So if I'm a hair stylist, okay, I'm doing hair, I need to be selling products. So if I don't have ten clients that week, maybe I got ten sales. Oh wow, oh

you hair stylus. You get what I'm saying. So if I but but now, what do you tell a hairstylus that is braiding hair independently she doesn't have a big following or what have you. And you're like, well, you can maybe try a different lane like products or what have you what because you know what recently I went to get a facial, for example, and you know, before you leave the facial appointment, they're like, oh, you need to products, and you walk out there a product you'll

probably never use. I worked at Altar. I did that every day. You know, So sell something you believe in because it's not hard to sell because you don't have to be do a commercial and add and talk people into sell something you truly use and you truly believe in because you know it's like I believe in this. That's how wasn't my bimal beauty. I was like, I am not selling this until I love the formula up because if I don't believe in it, I'm gonna have

to sell it. But if I believe in I'm like, girl, this is thick, this is creamy. It lasts all day. You don't leave that white line like I love my lip gloss. It's I'm just talking to you. I don't have to sell it to you. So sell something you believe in and you're just telling the truth about the product. It's not a whole commercial. Yeah wow, Where did you get all your sales skills from? I don't know. I

actually learned a lot um with different people I've worked with. UM. I learned a lot of skills from somebody that was on my team, UM that I no longer worked with. But the entrepreneurial skills were always in me. I literally was selling snacks in elementary school. So it's like I would make I don't know if you did y'all do this in New York, like the Starburst rappers and stuff and bracelets, I would sell them like I would make them and sell them. People like, well, I can make

that myself. I was like I would be like, okay, go make it. Then they'd be like, nah, I'll just buy it. Yeah, this is gonna take you hours, and I'm sitting here making it like I would just make stuff. I think some people assume that entrepreneurship in sales, like you don't have to know how to sell if you're an entrepreneur. I always don't, really, I feel like it's essential. I feel I don't feel like you have to know

how to seal. I feel like you have to sell something you believe in because I'm not trying to talk you into it. I'm just telling you about something that I believe in, a product that I believe in, you know. I mean, I guess you do have to know how to sale. But I don't feel like I've ever been a salesperson, No, I get it. I feel like I always tell people sales is great customer service. You know, it makes sense. You know, I don't sell a product I definitely don't wouldn't sell it. You can't sell a

product you don't believe in. That would definitely not be good customer service. But I always definitely play on what the really it's marketing. Yeah, marketing, that really is it? Like marketing makes your sales, marketing marketing, marketing, marketing makes your sales. So did I fually get the answer out of like what what you what you felt like when you re leave these jobs? Oh? Yeah, like I said, um,

here are us? I basically just told them. I was like, it's just not making sense to me, like I'm slaving and working and doing hair and I got I couldn't say no to a client, Like if a client, I'm like, I'm booked today, I'll come at six am bit pull up like I would not never could. I didn't want to miss the sale. I didn't want to miss the money and I needed it. So I would work very, very hard and I made good money, but you know, it just wasn't enough. And so how is that? How

much with social media giving you? If you don't mind me asking, Well, that's the and when that's what I'm saying, Like at that time, I would make like a hundred dollars for a picture post, but if it's so in, it's two hundred dollars and that takes two and a half hours, and it takes me two minutes to post the picture that that's not adding up to me? You know what I mean? So you're you're also looking at time equals money. You're not just looking at money as

a tool. You're looking at time is money and money is time. Yes, because if I post two pictures that week and I only have one I in that week, that's still equivalent to the you know what I mean? So did you spend most of your free time trying to figure out ways to increase that line of revenue? Making skits of skits with me and Bessie ranting videos. I was always posting, always looking for endorsements, brand deals. Um, you were looking for them? Yeah, and how would you

approach me? You would say them and you would say, this is my following, or Hey do y'all need brand ambassadors? Hey do y'all need a new face that promote your line. I believe in your product. I think your product is dope. Sometimes I would even buy the product and do it and send them the picture. Wow, Like this is the type of content I can provide you if you need

a brand ambassador. So you know, I'm I seen the kids nowadays, like the kids, I'm thirty two, but I really feel like the generation like after ninety three nine, like the little ones under me, y'all some lazy motherfucker's why you said that? God damn y'all think this ship is so easy. You ain't got no followers. I ain't gonna I've been on Instagram for a decade, baby, you know. I'm so glad you said that because I think people

grinding influencers day suit it was overnight. If you have not d M a hundred people today and and show them who you are, I don't want to hear ship. The can DM Beyonce right now. I'm not saying she's gonna see it. I'm not saying she's gonna answer, but I can d M her do it? Like man, nobody nobody giving me a chance. You're not even giving yourself a chance. If you have not d M a hundred people today and show them your talent, You're this, You're

that in a professional way. Because some of y'all be like, hey, check out my all right you already or I see them do that on the comments, so be like out. It's like, like, what's doing that? You're spam at this point. But I'm saying, like, don't grind for that ship like y'all just wanted to be handed to you. How long were you on Instagram before you made a dollar? A couple of years, so at least four years. So you

hear that for four years? Four years just to make a dollar at least, and now you're I would say, at what point did you become a millionaire? Like my birthday A five? Okay? Um wow? On your birthday? On my birthday, it was actually seven days before my birthday, but we celebrated on my birthday. So how long? How many years? And were you at that point? Man? For sixteen seventeen, nineteen twenty, so about eight well, I mean on social media. But y'all gotta think like I was

in my first girl group when I was fifteen. Yeah, I was traveling with them, I was performing with them. Like so this has been years and years and people always assume that it's just like prettiness, it's oh you have And then you got to think, at some point you had to perfect your comedy, right, So what was that like? Yeah, because I mean Instagram is totally different than you know, performing live and I never had a

desire to do that. But once again, it was back when I was struggling, and they were like, all right, so we'll give you. You've seen hundred for this comedy. Well, first day called said, do you do stand up? I said absolutely not. Fun, No, that's scary at fun. I'm not a comedian like you got me sucked up? No, like, no, absolutely not. They're like, I was like, well, what was it for? I was like, this college wanted you to come do you know ten minutes for dollars? I was like,

I do stand up? What day? Fuck it, I'm gonna go out there. And and Dion Cole is one of my favorite comedians, like he's so dope to me. He write writes down his stuff and he takes it on stage with him and he would like if it hits, to like that word. If it doesn't hit, he like, you know, I did the same thing. I like, copy Dion Coole. I said that to the college. I was like,

y'all know who Dion Coole is. A all these young kids, they're like, no, I was like, when you write down his jokes, So I'm gonna write down these jokes and the ones I say laugh if you like him. If you don't like them, don't laugh. And yeah, so I did it. I wasn't up there for ten minutes. I got that fifteen hundred dollar check and baby never looked bad. And then from there you don't obviously still do that checklist, you know, no, no, no no, But that's amazing. Yeah,

that was cool, definitely, you know lied. I was like, tell him I could stand up, I will come, I will turn these kids up. Whatever. But at that time, in one sitting, that's a lot of money when you're broke. Now, how did you go from that to wilding out? Yeah? I actually went to a While and out casting call for the models. I was trying to be a model girl. Ok, well you you could easily feel you are studying and

you are beautiful. You're beautiful online too, but it's always great when you see the first year, like, oh you're naturally just beautiful. You so much. Um. I went to the While and outcast and call and I got to the front. They called my number. I was like, I'm a comedian, I'm not a model. So what they were like, let's say something funny and I don't remember what I said, but they laugh and they were not at this point, did you have a following? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I had

a following. I had a following, so I was going viral. Um, Like two thousand and sixteen was my biggest viral moment. That was when viral was like viral. Like now everything is viral. Technically it hits a million views, is viral every like videos are just viral all the time. But viral, like back in two thousand and sixteen was like Rihanna reposted my ship Chris Brown. Kind like back then it

was like Rihanna know I DM her? She never answered that like reading, but um, yeah, So I went viral and then it was just from there, like they knew who I was a little bit, but they were like, I mean, she's the Instagram comedian, Like we're not about to put her on the show. That was kind of before they started doing that. Yeah, so you do that, you tell the joke, they think it's funny. Then what happened.

They told me to sit to the side, and I waited, like the whole rest of the casting hall were you calling your friends like, oh my god, what does this mean? No? I just sat there. I was like, Okay, I don't I guess we're gonna talk whatever. And then um, we end up going out to eat and I didn't hear nothing from them for two years, literally like almost two years.

I was like, they really not working with me, and then, um, I don't remember how it happened how it went from that, but uh, I think actually Dolly probably Dolly comes over, you know why, because Nick didn't believe in me at first. He was like, I don't see it, like all this year, my boy man, baby, Yeah, like I don't get it. I don't see it. Dolly was like I'm telling you her, Nile and a couple of other people were like fighting for me, and it was like all right, like I

guess we'll see. And then you know, one year we shot in Atlanta and as soon as I came out, the whole crowd was like face like saying all the beast tone and Nick was like, you know, and then after like he started being like, all right, you got it, Like you're a star, You're from your heart to your talent. Like I didn't see it at first. That was my bad. I'm gonna take that on the chin, But you really are a star. Did you know that when you were doing that at the time, And I'm glad while yeah, yeah,

I was gonna say that. I didn't wanna. I think I would have been in my head like let me prove myself, or the opposite, like you don't even really want me here? Why am I here? But I didn't. I didn't. I was just like they love me, Nick loves me. Now do you feel pressured nowadays? Like because you have you're an entrepreneur, you're a comedian, you're you're in the podcast space, you're you're a multitasking entreprenour visionary.

Do you feel pressured to stay on top? It depends on what your definition of on topic is really, Like you have a there's one thing to go viral, there's another thing to have a following. Like I feel like if you put a product out for all your brands out there be some all drops of product. It's going to sell, it's going to more people are going to go to where you're at. So um, not always, not always. Sometimes it's you know, you gotta you can't be lazy

with it. Just because I post something, don't mean we're selling we you know, we don't have so many sales or be someone weady. We're trying to get that up out of that warehouse. Were like sixties nine percent off please somebody. You gotta be honest. Month you have a dollar month, and the next month you can have a five thousand dollar months. It depends on the marketing, It depends on people's pockets. It depends on if I'm canceled, you know what I'm saying, like people, I'm not supporting

her now or whatever. But I think it depends on what your definition of success is, because really I'm trying to figure out ways to never have to be on Instagram again. I want to get off. You're all about sleep money. I want to get off of social media. It takes up too much of my time. It's it's time consuming, it's I just want to get picked up. When you're like social media people for you, it's also

money consumers. So when the regular persons on it, they scroll, they're like, oh these and they're scrolling and they're clicking them pretty people and fancy life because that's what we all do. I do that too. I was gonna ask do you do that too? Or you're looking at it like what's my metrics today? It's both. It's oh, I have to be on Instagram because I'm a business woman. And then you get on Instagram and don't do ship

they got to do with business. You sit there and be like, I'm gonna be on for twenty minutes and then you're on there for two hours. It's it's literally a millennial addiction. Yes, well, they said that the social media was created to waste time, and it's funny because

that's exactly what it's doing. So I'm trying to figure out ways to not have to rely on social media for my income, which you know, for you don't yeah, you know, thank god, But the internet is definitely an outlet for me to make I'll make a lot of money on internet. Good to know. He's just like, I'm

just trying to get off of it. I'm like, I'm about to put this money into real estate and be on an island somewhere and post randomly like I don't want where people find you if they want to find you or support you, Like, how can they do that? Instagram say back to the amazing Literally social media like my social media and my Instagram is one of my biggest platforms. Um I promote my um My tour dates on their past podcast for sure you can't see it pity on but no, for sure podcasts on my God,

we're episode ten in ten episodes, like we've launched. We launched two months ago and we have been in the top two hundred since we launched in the world like we haven't. It's just mind blowing. We knew we we know we're gonna be number one, but we didn't know it's gonna be this you describe your podcast. Our podcast is literally about truth and purpose, self evolution, elevation, healing, growing, and we're doing that me and my co host Megan.

We're doing it together with our audience. So we're not saying we have all the answers. We're not saying we're right, we're not saying we're wrong. We're just having the conversations. We're talking about therapy, we're talking about what we go through. We cry every damn episode. Um, I love that. Yeah, it's just real ship. Yeah. Do you feel like a lot of your success has been keeping it real? That's how I got to this point solely being myself, not

hiding anything. And of course the Internet doesn't have to know everything about me, but there's not really much I've hid from the Internet, honestly, Like I walk in my truth. Anything I say, um, it's my reality. So yeah, there's never been like a Crunsworthy. While I shouldn't maybe I shouldn't post it. I went through that after I was canceled for saying certain things or given my opinion. But the world was just in a really weird time, like it was the Black Lives Matter, then it was um COVID.

The world was very dark during that time, and it was a lot of pain and a lot of suffering, and you had to tread very lightly. That's when it took a shift from like, Okay, I can say whatever I want to say, I'm Dave Chappelle, I'm Richard prior to okay, now I can't so that I feel like two thousand. That was that shift of like inscitivity. Everybody is so fucking sensitive. I'm like I can be like, oh I love water. Wow, you don't like juice? Wow? So you hate juice? You love water? Oh my god?

Be somemone hate juice. Welches I saw well chese juice comment on her last post. Make sure that welches nose be someone hates juice and they should never support her again. I didn't say I hated juice. I said I like water. Be scarier. I feel like we're in an age where it's in the lose age. And that's why I canceled. Culture exists like nobody wants to be the I hate to say the word loser, but nobody wants to be last place loser. Everybody wants to be equal, and I'm

not saying there we all are equal. Luckily, I'm not big enough to be canceled yet, but I feel like we create an environment where we're so sensitive that we're no longer keeping real. Like I don't want to get into the gender thing, but even with genders and all this stuff, it's just like no idy worlds. Just call blue blue. Yeah, we're all afraid to call it. People just going off based off emotion. Because the same people that canceled me will walk up to me and be like,

can you sign my book? I'd like I thought I was a platress, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I love your book, Okay, cool, Like I was. You know, It's it's never like y'all are going off of emotion. You're mad in the moment, and then in two months later, you're gonna be buying my lip loss like you because it's just people are episodic? Are you? I've never even heard that word, But are you afraid of cancel culture? Not anymore. I've been canceled so many times. It's a joke.

And literally my last post on Instagram, my last solo picture or the last one. I have a shirt that says canceled and the caption is Jesus is My Savior. He calls the shots. Did you make that shirt? I got it from my homeboy, his clothing line, But that is the caption. Like somebody was like, how are you talking about Jesus? And the picture is saying fuck you. It's literally a ger that says fuck you and it says canceled, and it goes hand in hand. You cannot

cancel me. This was predestined before I was in my mother's womb. There is nothing that a man on this earth can do that it's going to keep me away from my purpose. So Jesus is my savior. He calls the shots. And it's as simple as that. I'm not scared of humans anymore. When I went through that ship,

it sucked me up though. The first cancel what I was in my room crying, like why am I crying over in Twitter, I was sad, man, what advice would you give to somebody that's trying to be in your shoes, because it sounds like you have to have you do you do, and you have to know who you are and you have to have a good team. And the thing that sticks with me the most is my best friend Megan, my business partner that's on my podcast. She just kept telling me, what is the truth? What is

the truth? What is the truth? Do these people know you know? Are your plagress? No? Uh? Should? We just started listing all of these truths. We just made a list of truths and she was like, at the end of the day, she shown me the this is the truth, no matter who believes it. You focus on this. It don't matter who believes it. The truth is the truth. And you don't have to believe that. This is white. At the end of the day, that's the truth. If you don't believe it, that's on you. That's white. So

remember that the truth is the truth. And if the truth these are a fucked up person, fix it, change become up better person. But if the truth is these people don't know you, You're a great person. You have pure intentions, whatever focus on the truth. That's great advice. Thanks, that's really great, Megan. She helped me through that. You're really good. You have a really good group of girlfriends and they all live here. Most of them. Yeah, if

you have them lived out the town. But yeah, well I am going to so this this was really didn't like this. This was really good. But beasts smone is very captivated. So when you're doing an interview, so listeners, I'm not lying because really, if you see the video, you're gonna see me damning face full of food follow my husband down there to eat someone. So, Um, I just wanted to say thank you so much for coming and being a breath of fresh air. Like honestly I was.

I was literally like and this. You know, I haven't been to Atlanta often, but this trip, like there were so many things that were coming at me that I was like, maybe God doesn't want this trip. It's the devil messing with me. Um, I'm so glad I came out here. So you look how the enemy work. That was the enemy trying to trick your mouth. Tricky trip. You've been thinking like maybe God, no, the devil. You got to know God's voice. Let me tell you how

much I believe that God didn't want this trip. I called up one of my friends who was like God faring, and I said, how do you know when God talks to you? I'm like, you know how people say God talks to them and says something to them. How do you know? My friend was like, what do you? What

are you how to find out? You know? Though, Yeah, here's boys and God is never gonna tell you something that's gonna I mean the depth when it's the devil, it's always negative, it's always second guessing, it's always fear. Oh okay, That's how I look at it, that God is never gonna put fear in you and make you

second guess. Wow. Well, I've been in Atlanta for one day and meeting you, meeting some of the other people that I've met here, I can honestly say it was like the best gift I could have ever gifted myself. I'm so glad like what you contribute, um, But anyways, for coming by and eating while broke with me, appreciate And I'm going to this great concept. It's so funny.

And I was just telling people all camera people have said to me, oh, this show, it's it's not TV where they I'm like, why is it They're like, no, no, no, this is by like YouTube level, but not not TV worthy. I'm like, it's it's the truth. People need to know that where you know, and it wasn't overnight special the new generation. Oh, you just gotta get on it. Just viral, Just go viral. Have you already tried even getting ten? Fol Let me just tell yourself that, okay, and that's

the problem. Stop trying to go viral. Just put out content that you believe in. Just put out the content that you believe that you believe in. If I believe in something, I'm gonna put it out and the right people will find me. I'm not putting it out with the intent to go viral. You can't plan on going viral. Just put it out. So in the meantime, do you advise a couple of day jobs, because I got like two day jobs. I advise whatever you gotta do to get it, and whatever is filling your cup, you know,

whatever it takes for you to feel like you're successful. Yeah, you're amazing. You are too, You're calm, you have a real cone spirit. Thank you so much. Great, All right, well, thank you and cats up with small Instagram is always your best friend. She announces our tour dates. You can also catch her on TV on while and and uh and if you want to catch your comedy on Instagram. Follow our podcast Yes watch the podcast Now for Sure Pod We're Going Number One? Who made it to number ten?

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