SPECIAL EDITION: Kara Yamaguchi, Japan's Megalithic Cultures

This week we go back to the archives to look at megalists, not megalists of Europe or the America's megalists of Japan, and this is a rare opportunity for us to learn about the Asian megalists that have been around for literally thousands of years on the island of Japan. My guest today is Kara Yamaguchi, an expert in Japan who takes us through and helps us understand what is left

to us by what is very likely the island of Mu or Lemuria. All this and more today from Earth Ancients Special Edition The Archives for Monday, June twenty six, twenty twenty three. This is Earth Ancients Special Edition The Archives. I'm your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey there you are. How are

you welcome to Earth Ancient Special Edition The Archives. Yeah. Hey, I was looking through my files and ran across some photos that were sent to me by Kara Yamaguchi Jesus going on eight years ago, and I thought to myself, we have not had anybody speaking on Japanese megalists, and it's really challenging. In fact, I hear from people like Hugh Newman from Megalithamnia. I

hear from Andrew College. I hear from a lot of people wanting to know if I'm connecting or I have any connections in Japan with people studying the megalists, and it's really a challenge because there isn't Strangely, there isn't a lot of interest from the general public on ancient cultures of the megalithic side of it. And you gotta wonder because there are these monstrous koufons, which are these

ground based megalithic structures that are used they think for tombs. Some of them are so old there's a question of a building or a structure being reused as a burial chamber rather than what it was used for originally. So there's a lot of question there. But I found a number of photographs from Kara. I'm posting these on the Facebook page or the Ancients Facebook, and there's one

series that I'm going to mention in a second from Yukoshima Island. Now, this is has been completely barren of human life for as far as they can remember, as far as there's historical records, but there are megalists scattered everywhere, and there's one specific monstrosity. It must weigh I'm thinking, oh, three three thousand to four thousand tons, and it looks like they moved it somehow. There's inner locking blocks, it's carved. Very few people talk about

it. It's the largest peak. It's at the very top of the island's mountain, Yugoshima Island, and this thing is mind blowing. You got to see it. These photographs that I found in this collection are mind blowing. It's like a obelisk, but it's a raw, kind of a unique, creatively designed megalith, something that's pointed, a rock that's pointed, and nobody knows who made it, when it was made, how it was moved,

more importantly, how it was cut. And by the way, looked closely at some of the markings that I've highlighted with arrows, because there's openings at the very top, perfectly cut squares that may have housed I don't know. I don't there's no way people can get up in that a hole that if that's a room, we don't know. Nobody's made any kind of study of this megalith, and it is really quite beautiful and it's a monster. So check that one out. Why there's no interest makes no sense. Because the

Japanese culture is very much about their ancestors. But I think what the problem is is that there's no documentation, and because they don't have anything written, they can't place it in museums with any kind of history. They don't know where to position it. And as you're here today, there are literal, literally thousands of megalithic sites, structures and artifacts that are in people's backyards that are are just collecting dust and what he is doing a study on them.

It's really I mean, some of these megalists are so impressive. They're cut with levels of precision. We don't understand what the tools that cut them were. Most of them are granite, very very hard granite. As you hear from character today, the Japanese do believe in Lemuria or move. In fact, it's in there. It's in their dialogue, it's in their mythology, and in a number of areas they chuck up megalists too, being formerly from

Lemuria, which means their belief is that Japan was part of Lemuria. When you look at these artifacts, these megalists, it begins to make sense that Japanese Japan was part of a bigger continent which were told was Lemuria or MoU,

So that's something to consider. Now. One of the other areas that we do touch on is the subtle energies of these megalithic places, and Kara does speak about her sensations when she's by these megaliths, meaning that some of them may be on telluric fields, they may be magnetic rock, they could

be parts of asteroids that have landed that have been carved into megaliths. But for the most part, the Japanese people do not recognize megaliths as energetic, energetically functioning devices or megalithic structures that make any sense to them or should be revered. There's a lot of temples for prayer, there's a lot of temples in Japan and for meditative practices, but the megalists, strangely, are not

part of that. So when you hear Kara describing her sensations, you can kind of get a sense that she's very different and she is intending to seek out stones, megalists, artifacts that are emitting energetics. So that's kind of unique, all right. So the program today is Japan's Megalithic cultures, and my guest is Kara Yamaguchi. Hey, this is Cliff Dunning and at Barnhart inviting you to join us November tenth through the seventeenth as we visit and explore

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adventure and exploration. There's so much that we don't know about in Japan. Over the years, I've heard stories about various megalists. I've seen photographs of some of the larger stone works that really don't have any history. But I've wanted to know more about Japanese megalithic culture and I found a research investigator. Her name is Kara Yamaguchi, and she's been studying not only sacred sites in Japan, but also above and below the water sites that are of huge

proportion. Many of these sites apparently they don't have a clue about, have no idea of what the originating culture is, but they have a number of sacred sites that they have dated to ten thousand BC or older, and I wanted to know more about some of these unique sites. I years ago trained in reiki amraiki teacher, and a reiki originates from Japan, and there's a

raiky mountain there that I'd love to go see. And the Japanese are very sensitive to energy, and they when they do their ceremonies, they're looking for energetics. They're looking for guidance and blessings in the form of healings, and that's mind body spirit. It's just much much more different than what we practice here in the West in the United States. So so I contacted Kara and

here is our discussion. I am always looking for evidence of ancient cultures around the world, and about three years ago I was introduced to the ruins of the just off the shores of Yanaguni Island, and these were Graham Hancock basically had taken a dive with Robert Shock and some other people and had seen this underwater monument, which was fascinating. But what I didn't realize is that the mainland has its own amazing selection of monoliths and megalis that our mind just not

amazing. It just blows me away. And I started looking around for people who were researching megalis, and I found Kara Yamaguchi. Karen. Kara is probably the only person who I was able to discover who not only wrote a book, and by the way, her books called Spirit of Moo, and she was gracious enough to send me a copy and it's got some fantastic photos in it. So at the end of the show, I'll make sure that she puts up some information about it. But we're gonna speak with Kara today.

And by the way, Kara is an author, she's a research investigator who for over twenty years has lived in Japan. We're going to talk to her today about what she's discovered. And I was just just before we started, I mentioned to her that we're going to have to have her back because we only can pack so much in an hour, and she probably has archives of photographs that I would desperately, desperately want to get. So Kara welcome

to Earth agients. Hello, look, thank you for that wonderful introduction. I don't know what to say hello to everyone out they're listening. I'm just delighted to be here to present what I have experienced and race in Japan. And it might blow away people's ideas with Mount Fujie and Sherry Blossom, that's all there too, but there's something that will just well it's very mysterious and

well may change history one day. Well, I want to know a little bit about you, Okay, your background, tell us a little bit about where you're from, and okay, how you developed this interest, because it's really interesting because you seem to be like a very unique individual to actually begin to do these researchers and then you know so much about them you're giving these

tours. And I actually looked around and I didn't see anybody else in websites, and I even went to the Japanese websites, and no one's really touring about. So tell us about yourself. What's your back in three minutes? Okay, some of my life in about two to three minutes. Okay. I grew up in Australia, so basically to age twenty, I was just your typical Aussie enjoying life, went to university. But I also have Japanese roots, and I guess that was always there, this big question, Matt,

what does that mean to have Japanese roots, have Japanese ancestors. And so at twenty, I was age twenty, I applied for a teaching program. It's called the JET Program. It's run by the Japanese Ministry of Education. No one was very fortunate to be picked, so they're about two or three thousand of us. We were picked for more around the world, and

we were sent off all over Japan to teach in Japanese schools. And I tell you, Cliff, that year and I was about I think I was twenty, it was like another part of me just woke up and it must have been that dormant side that was, you know, part Japanese. And I just saw this, this is the place I've been looking on my life, and just something kicked in. So I just loved that experience, did two years of it. But at that point, none of this, the

Megali, none of this had come to light yet. And so you know, I was doing many things in Japan. I was on Japanese TV, teaching English and I did that for about ten years. Yeah, and I was also starting up a career as an artist, so that was my main thing in life. And then I went to see the Yonaguni Underwater Monument. Did you actually dive and go underwater? Well? So this is a heartening message for anyone like me who wouldn't go near a diving like a scuba suit.

You wouldn't catch me doing that. You can take a glass bottom boat tour and you might think, how am I going to see a huge monument for you'd be surprised. I remember being on this tiny boats. It's a very very rocky seas where the actual monument is located. So you're all holding on for dear life. And after about thirty minutes, you suddenly see this huge these terror steps come into view and I tell you could hear ever, you could just feel everyone in the boat holding their breaths, like, what

on earth is that? And I tell you clear from that moment, Okay, I'm not an archaeologist, but I know what I've seen and I know what I felt, and in that moment, I knew I was looking at something that I had not learned about in history and so I did that a couple times, so you really can't see enough from that glass boat. And so that was the trigger. And I'd always been interested in ancient civilizations all my life, Egypt, Persia, Mesopotamia. So that was the starting point.

But then, oh gosh, it's hard to sum it all up. When my father passed away, I went on a pilgrimage to a very special, say sacred mountain called Mount Koya in central Japan, and that started interest in Japanese sacred science. So that was the starting point. And I started to photograph these amazing sanctuaries that are still here from the Drman period, this

is like ten thousand years ago. And I would be out in the forest photographing some sacred cave or two thousand year old cedar tree, and I would notice these rocks which seemed to be aligned with some kind of like there was some plan behind them. They didn't seem to be natural formations, right. I would just what's that? And it would start happening more and more often, and so I then realized, Okay, I'm looking at something here that

needs investigation. And that was the starting point. Is I would literally stumble across things in the forest where I was taking photos of sacred site wonderful and be thinking what the heck is that? So that was the starting point for me. Okay, would you say that during this pilgrimage that you had that something changed in you, you shifted, maybe the light went on, that

there was more to life than just the physical. Absolutely, And if that's the one message I want to give people from all of this is that this my own personal journey through all of this has made me realize I'm not living

in a third dimensional world. I'm a multidimensional being, and that we can access so much more than we've been taught just by going to these sacred science And for example, there's a very sacred cave down in Qushu, one of the southern islands, where the Sun goddess, the most famous myths in Japanese mythology, she hid in a cave for three days, which almost threatened to wipe out all life, and the other eight eight million gods of Japan devised

a plan to coax her out of this cave. And this is a very famous story from Japan's mythology. And you can go to this cave and I'd say I spent three days in this cave, the most amazing experience in my life. And I went back to Tokyo, I was living at that time, and people said, what happened? Really? Yeah, they couldn't. I mean, I'm not the same, but they said there's something that's changed.

And I can see that now. So when I go back to Stralia, people say, you know, you look the same, but inside you and you're completely different. And that's the gift of Japan and visiting these places I think very cool. You know, you have a wonderful website filled with really interesting photographs and different sections. I want to start our conversation with a section in the in this website called Japan's Lost super Civilizations, And I want

you what is the definition when you say super civilizations? Are you saying super advanced? And you've noticed that some of these stones are cut with unusual tools? Or what does what does that mean? What are you talking? Absolutely well, I'm super in the sentence that the whoever whoever constructed these amazing models, thick structures and ruins that we have no idea where they came from. How did they construct these amazing monuments which are often you know, five hundred

tons or more with incredible precision, precision often no tool markings. Um, you just really when you're looking at them, you are in awe of that technology which today we are not able to produce. Right the same technology we have other technology which is super advanced. So in that sense, we tend to think of that period in time as a primitive prehistory people hunter gatherers, you know, making things with stone tools. How are they going to construct

something which is a hundred tons right, perfect symmetrical line. So now that sense, I'm using a super super civilization. Okay, so in your mind when and by the way, that section of your website is wonderful. It

has some monstrosities in there that are amazing. Yeah, But before we get into some of the very very ancient, let's talk about some of the areas that the Japanese people currently consider a sacred And I'm thinking right now of the co Fund tombs that are these keyhole shape designs, but they only date to

like the third century, which is around the period of the Romans. But I read the other day there's over one hundred thousand of these tombs throughout Japan, and I was like, that's amazing, And they and they venerate them. They're like, they're like sacred little places. I mean, it seems like the government has protected those because maybe there's a written history that they've found. Is that why they are so special? I'm sorry, I don't.

I'm not really an expert on actual the carphoon history, but I can say that they are absolutely extraordinary when you go to visit them. The scale, as you said, like third century, How on earth were they able to construct? Right? I mean alten that they're the people that are buried. They are very venerated in Japanese history. So in that sense they are given official recognition. But you know, actually in Japan, so much is sacred.

And this is really from the roots of Shinto, the indigenous Japanese religion. And I say I put religion in verticommas because Shinto, for me, it's more a way of being away. I mean, it's literally the way of the gods. There's no founder, there's no doctrine that goes. It's really a veneration for all life. And so these are the roots, this is the roots of the Japanese psychists, that all life is venerated, everything is sacred. Although this is ing I have to say too, and we

are all quite worried. In Japan through modern day expansion, a lot of this is being lost too. And that's part of the reason I'm doing this is that I don't want to see anything anymore lost. Yeah, you know, bist up to build a car park, and I've just seen too much that I don't want to you know, well, we'll talk about that in a minute. But you bring up an interesting point in that the government doesn't seem to realize that some of these so called stone monoliths are actually very ancient

and they shouldn't be disturbed. Probably, and maybe if they want to build a mobile park or an apartment complex, they're thinking about pushing it out of the way and disturbing the secret ground. And that's not great. So Travis, I'll tell you the biggest stone circle in Japan was all pulled down by one stone which is left just all on its own out in this huge field, and they pulled it all down to build a park. It's just I

don't know what they were thinking. Excuse me to samement to that local government. But but you know, this is finally coming to life though, and in all fairness, there are a couple of places now where local authorities are cooperating with individuals to fund formal research. I'm just hoping this is the point where the scales will be tipped. And so I'm very grateful for a show such as yours that gives this exposure. I mean, you know this is

this is open to all archeologists and researchers and historians. You won't believe what you'll see here. Well, let me ask you about that. Because in America where I'm at, and in parts of Mexico and parts of South America, and in parts of Europe, there are certain groups. Some are indigenous. Some are indigenous people who have lived there, who have traditions that fight the government and say, look, you can't build on this land because it's

sacred, so on and so forth. Is there anything that in Japan at all? It is sacred indigenous types of people who kind of like put the word out that, hey, this is a sacred site, don't dig it up. Well that when the ironer people are the indigenous people of Japan. And I I mean, I don't know enough about all of the history to comment, but I do know that they have fought their own battles and they've

lost a lot of those battles and their sacred sites are destroyed. You know that there there are a lot of sad stories too, and I don't want to bring your listeners you know down, you know, just an unfortunate reality. Luckily, with these huge model if that are like five hundred tons and the ones that are under water, that's what protects them. That's the big right, I mean, how how are they going to destroy five hundred tons model if right? Well, yeah, yeah, a Gucci gooney excuse me,

everything monstrosity. It would take dynamite to blow that thing out. And listen, kiffs, just why are on that? I really wanted to bring this to your audience today. I don't think most people know that jon Aguin is not isolated in being an underwater monument in Japan. To date, from what I understand, there are three or four other areas in Japan north of Japan, Central Japan, East West coast. They have discovered what they believe

underwater ruins and you can find any of this on YouTube. Seriously, I was looking again last night and was like, oh yeah, really, my goodness. Seriously, underwater pyramids, pillars, straight vertical lines in the rocks,

it will give you the goose bumps. So when you're looking at it in that context, yogin is not isolated in its existence, right, it takes on a whole new right, you know, really, really, I encourage your viewers please look into the other underwater ruins that are being discovered. Check that out. Yea. Let's talk about the Jemand period, which is fascinating to me because you have it in your book ten thousand BC two three three BC and uh you feature a number of of megalists around that period.

Can you talk a little bit about what you know about those that civilization? What we know about it in Japan. Well, it's basically the prehistory of Japan, right, and it went on for a very long time. And it's I mean, when I asked my Japanese friends, what did you learn at school? It's basically that they were hunter gatherers and they used very primitive stone tools, and they had a very peaceful existence. They were no you know, the battles and wars for land came on in the next period after

that, so it was generally a very peaceful period. But it's hard to join the dots. How these people building huge monolithic structures, right, so this is pastimak. I'm not saying these these monolithic structures were necessarily built in that period, but we could assume that they were there from that period or before. And so those people living during the German period must have thought,

what on earth? What is that? You know? Um? And it's all a very sort of fuzzy area of right, We're not sure where to place these monolithic structures. But later their historical chronicles which came into the existence of Japanese history, which do not document the interesting Now on your on your website, one of the first photographs, and I find this a fascinating it's the is it the ou Stone circle and Aquita? Yeah, it's beautiful,

it's it's beautiful, it's huge. Is it? Has it been described as a as as an astronomical Yeah, they had research been done on that. Again I don't I don't know all the details of that data, but they have there is evidence that on days like on the equinox and the solstice, the sun aligns with the certain stones in that stone, so that that is

what they're discovering at other megalithic sites in Japan. And I find that really exciting, right that on the days of the equalots and solstice that the sun will there'll be like a beam of sunlight which comes between two megalithic stones to mark that time of the year. So these people were not primitive, they had a very extraordinary knowledge. Yeah, what's happening, right? Yeah? Have they done any ground predatory radar to see if there's any other foundation around

that circle or anything like any buildings or anything. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the actual extent of their research or all I know is that there is Finally, they asked that to undertake research. I can get bank to you about that. Yeah, we'll have We're definitely going to have you get

so well. I mean, there's just so many different like something different sizes, and I just want to say, as your listeners now, no, I'm not a historical expert or an archeologist, but I recognize what I was looking at. And I'm a photographer, so my role in this is to bring photographic evidence so that people can't deny the existence of these places. Right, it's easy to say, hey, there's a possible low civilization in Japan. People will not be They'll switch off, right, you show them a

photo and it's a difference. Right, Oh my god, I mean I find that insane, especially when we talk about our next series of photographs that you took. And this is a monument that is funny. It's the Masuda and I saw that ten years ago. Yes, and by the way, you're the first person I've ever seen. Right, the actual weight it's estimated to be a hundred tons between one that it's the Master Da. It's literally

ship of Masterda. Master is the name. I believe that the area and it literally looks like a ship has landed from another planet made out of granite. Right. I believe that is one of the most beautiful old parts in the world, one of the most significant. It is just perfectly carved out, and they've carved the inside of it out. There are two holes at

the top. It's extraordinary. No, when I look at it, and this is just my interpretation because I have to here, Yeah, I consider it a seat or a housing that supported something bigger, because that makes sense. Yet you look at those two holes are perfectly square. And of course I haven't seen a closeup of how it was cut, but it looks like it's it's made to support some kind of articulated system or a big tower or a machine or something. But it's the most fascinating solid, isn't it.

Isn't it? I listen, I've taken so many people to Tamasa, and the irony is it's located in the central Japan in Nara's It's located behind a block of flats. Really is like, yeah, no people who live there. I just think, Oh, there's that big rock. You know. One of the most extraordinary road plants in the world that I believe can change world history is in someone's backyard. Literally, you walk up a hill, there's no sign of it, and you go to this bamboo forest and suddenly

there's this structure just looming before you. I think it's like eight meters the highest point leaven meters wide. Talk about draw dropping. I mean, I've seen it how many times? And you just left speaker, so I have that same feeling that you've just said, Cliff. It's almost like it's not all there, that it was used like something for landing or I don't know, it's hard to explain it. Again, it's left in a shroud of mystery. You know, nobody knows local authorities. They have a signpost up,

but it's like, we don't know. You know, let's let's talk about some of these big megalis like this one hundred ton stone works. What is the issue with the government not really wanting or understanding that these are secret or very ancient stones and they should be protected. Well, that's a good

question. That's a question I'd like to ask the government. And look, I'm just not in a position to comment on what the government stands is on this or all I know is that I have I had the good fortune of speaking to a couple archaeologists, because I can't believe that people who are that's their profession would not know about these places. And you know, one of them was very frank with me and he said, you know, we do know, but to rock the boat would create so much havoc that it's sometimes

better just not to go there. And I can understand that, you know this if I were starring or teaching that period in history, you know, it quickly is threatening. And I do understand that you let me ask you, and this is total ignorance on my part? Is it because it's not well known, there's no background, and the Japanese would like to have a historical understanding of these monuments so that they can go back and say, yes, we now honor this because we know these are people that lived here blah

blah blah blah blah blah. Or I mean, is it just that it's so anomalous that they would rather not think about it, so they're not I think it's a combinational all of that. It's such an anomally. Even the experts if they really started to research, I don't know where you would start with this. And I mean I've always just I can't get over the Hoogany nonument is quite famous world line right now, isn't it. I I've had

friends call up in Australia they've just seen it on History Channel. I can't tell you the number of people into Japan that I have shared that information with and they've never heard about it before. So where they don't know, cliffs they don't know, and they say, what that's Japan. I showed them the photos. Isn't that true? Isn't that believe? It's like, no,

it's your backyard, and they get so excited. And that's that's what I want to I want to excite people and get them passionate about this, right, So you know, I'm not negating the government, I don't think. I think they're as baffled as everyone else. And I hope maybe with more obviously these exposure, that this will start something in Japan. I mean, of course, also it's a question of funding, right, of course, yeah, always funding right in Japan is struggling. So I think that's

a combination of many things. Fascinating. I was completely surprised to learn from your website that there are pyramids all over Japan and these are and this is the question I had for you. Some of them will look and you write about this, some of them look like they were formed. Man made a

form, thousands of men got together and formed them. And the other ones looked somewhat natural, and then at certain levels or certain heights, they look like they were reformed or and also, and we talked about this before we started. In Bosnia, doctor Samana has discovered these Bosnian pyramids and they looked like they were natural hills that were reformed by man thousands of years ago, he believes, like twenty thousand years ago or wow wow. And there's big,

huge sections of cement in these pyramids. There's there's tunnels. So tell me about the Japanese pyramids, because it's it's a fascinating subject. It is, And when I first read about it maybe ten years ago, it's like, wow, this mystery never ends, you know. Again, there's just barely any research being done into this area, especially now. There are books

written in Japanese, but there's just very little information in English. Basically, the first pyramid which was discovered or at least acknowledged, was in nineteen thirty two, So we're going quite a ways back. A man named Katsutoki Sakai. He started up this pyramid boom in Japan and it was revealed and a slightly controversial ancient document which discussed as many aspects of Japan's history that Japan indeed

had the world's oldest pyramids. So that's kind of what started it. And so there was there was sort of at that period, in that period investigation and the first pyramid Ashipakayama, get your mouth around that one, Ashitakayama Pyramid in Hiroshima. I went to see it about fifteen years ago and wow, it was like seriously either walking into a like I don't know seeing a Mayan ruin out in the jungle or really walking on to Indie Jones said, it

was just mind blowing. What was there, perfectly structured shape, pyramid shape when you get to the top, and this is what defines a lot of Japanese pyramids. There's almost always there's megalithic formation, maybe sandstone dolman. So that's something to take note of. And what I have discovered which is interesting, is that it's quite a different sensation when you walk up a pyramid, climb up a pyramid, which is right into Japan, it almost feels like

it's empty inside. And I mean I've I've climbed hundreds of mountains in Japan and usually huffing and puffing at the end pyramid mountains, you feel so energized. It's it's kind of strange, right, and you can do it in half the time you normally would. So I on a personal level, I have felt certain like that there's something strange for moment going on with Japanese pyramids.

Does that come out in the language when people are asked or encouraged to go visit the pyramids, that you will be bathed in some unusual energy or is it more individual personal kind of a thing. Oh, Cliff, I love your question, because again, people in Japan have no idea the period of the people like me who have an interest in worlds other than just our three dimensional world. And there are many people out there on a personal level

who are going to the sacred science. They all claim and feel the same thing that there is a certain energy in these places. There's a pyramid mountain Sangmodi in Fukushima's the North part which of Japan unfortunately was affected by the tsunami. They have one of the best UFO museums your favorite topic, UFO museums in Japan, and I had the pleasure of speaking to the director of that museum. I've talked about many occasions. He's well known on Japanese television.

He has recorded many different types of phenomen very strong gravitational fields, energy fields, and the number of sightings of UFOs by many, oh yes, countless people. M Yeah, So there's definitely phenomena going on at these places, But on a personal level, I haven't seen UFOs at these places. I've seen them in other places. I feel that you're very energized when you got these pyramids. You're gonna take a short commercial break and we will return with

my guests today, Carol Yamaguchi and talking about the megaliths of Japan. We'll be right back. This recording was done in April of twenty seventeen, and my guest was coming to us from Japan. Her name is Kara Yamaguchi, and she is probably one of the few individuals who have been studying Japanese megaliths. The reason I'm curious about this energetic effect is that the Bosnian Pyramids have

the same effect. When people go through the tunnels on these pyramids, they're bathed in some kind of energetic field, and when they come out there, not only do they feel different. I just reported last week or this week, pardon me, that Russian scientists from Moscow have detected that the entire physiology of their bodies is changing. Isn't that just phenomenal? I truly believe it, having experienced many things myself, but that that's just phenomenal. And that

is what I think. These the energies that are still there from ancient times. It's active. Yeah, that make sense to people I don't know. It's and because in Japan there's people still carry on the Shinto rituals of prayer and reverence for these places. It keeps it alive. And I mean, I've just seeing people transform, Cliff. Really, you get can tank cross groups of people on tours and I don't blame them. They've got to put

up with all this stuff. Right, we go to a sacred site three hours later where you know, best bodies you know, really or everyone's very humble after they've been on the ball totally, including the two conductor. Right. So I'm part of it, absolutely, and it is humbled my existence. I cannot extress that enough. So you know, these plates are to be venerated. Really, but I think that's fascinating about the both. I want to I want to go, well, look look that one up.

Listen regarding these pyramids, if they found that one or in thirty two or the thirties, Yeah, they also find artifacts or any kind of writing or anything around there. Because you did mention it seems like in Japan there's a megalith on each of the pyramids at the top. Is there anything like a tunnel or a cave or a building or a series of how they have they

found any artifacts? Well, with the unstuck a pyramid, they found monolithic structures, but they I mean, they're these huge stone structures and it looks like they've toppled over. I just couldn't get over it, like these huge stone pillars and it really looks like they've been in some cataclysm or whatever and they had just slowly started to fall down, right, I didn't know what

I was looking at. And then their statues of birds. This is found in other parts, like the Gonaguni Monument is believed to be a turtlestone. There's a turtlestone up in architect Almori. They believe underwater. Yea, so it is often like motif for animals, right, interesting. Yeah, and petroglyps. I don't know if they're always at pyramids, but petroglyss also exists in Japan. So you know, it's this this huge. You know, I'll need another twenty years to get more more data, but I'm not a

specialist in that field. So you know, I'm going through the visuals, my experience, trying to research through Japanese books. Um, yeah, this is this is, this could explode into something quite big. You know, you just mentioned something I wanted to talk to you about which is that turtle rock which is the Fukushima area, the pyramid there, you have a picture of it, and that's a whale rock. That's a whale rock. Yeah, I'm sorry, maybe I've made them. Yeah, it has an interesting

way in it, yesh. Yeah, And it's like that was man made. That's a man med and it's like it's like telling you something in that way, but who knows what it's telling you? Right, It's like that's the feeling though. It's like Eastern Island. It's like they're waiting for us to wake up. You just feel it like they're saying, don't don't take the same path that your ancestor did, and look at what would we be doing? Cliff, Really, and I'm part of that. I've I know

the things. I'm not proud of what I've contributed, and I'm trying to change to walk lighter on the earth. You know, I make so much garb, it's terrible, you know, So we have to be more humble really, I mean, Earth is our home. And so I think that the ancients they realize that, and they're leaving these messages to us. That's fascinating to consider. Yeah, get out of your monetary brain and get into more of the virtual side of things, because that's what you are. You're

not just a physical density. You're not at all cold. Bit more exciting than that realization, right. I mean, I've never had a particular religion that I followed, but I always felt something was missing and to connect to that world of spirit. Sound trying to sound corny or feel good. It's not about that. It exists and it can really transform you and the way you live. And I think a lot of people are waking up to that. And Japan happens to be a country where that can It can transform you

very quickly because the whole land is this this energy of ancient energy. And I was just thinking about that just off the top of my I was thinking, Japan is centered under a lot of energies because there's a lot of secret shrines. Yes, I practice a technique that is a couple of hundred years old called a riki oh fast, Yes, I've done. Yeah. And so it's all energy base where you kind of take your brain out of it and you just flow with this. Uh it's universal life force energy, you

know what I mean. It's not so you know, and isn't that beautiful? You know, yesterday I just wanted to prepare for the program. I went to the raiky Mountain in Kyoto because that's where it was birthright, Yeah, and it was just divine, divine. And there was a group of American girls and they looked like models out of Hollywood, and they attended to the chatting check and as we got up into the energy, they I could

just feel them transform. It was amazing. They're saying, this is so cool, and they said, I'm so glad we gave And so I was chatting to them and I just see them being transformed in ten minutes. Right, I love that. Yeah, I love being in the energy. Hey, let's talk about some of these wonderful megalists that you have in your book. The Yakashima island at the top of the mountain. Now, if I look at it, yeah, now it looks like somebody dasted up with a

massive knave. But right, do you think you think it was Did they speculate that at one time it was vertically up and then it collapsed? Does that why it's in pieces? But the thing's monstrous, huge, right, Cliff again, nobody, Look, it's given some name to like acknowledge that it exists, but there's no research into it, and it's apparently three met you can't actually go up to it. I was hiking in the oppis him,

and I was very lucky. There was a guide who was there and I asked him and he said, oh, I wouldn't recommend going up there. It's quite dangerous. But he'd been up there and it's like three meters high and it does look like it's kind of collapsed. But you know, I was with about thirty people doing this hike, and when Matt came into view, it was just like holy, you know in Japanese thirty Japanese game The Boy, it's just unbelievable, and it's so specific. It just feels

like it's been specifically place there. Right it looks isn't. Yeah, we have to use our imagination, but yeah, it's pretty incredible. That sliced up rock. It looks like it's sliced up. I'm gonna post this, uh for the program, so people are stabulous. So I love that. It's wonderful. Yeah, can you talk about the unknown Stone remains? And

it's it's I I wait and it looks like it's carved. It's in your book, it's on your website, and it's I wait or you wait, and it looks it looks like it was cut in sections and then it fell over because it was so huge. It is this like it looks like a statue that's fallen up. Yes, yeah, okay again again, Okay. This was up way up in the mountains somewhere, and I mean I kind

of like to think this was one of my own discoveries. I was out somewhere, yeah, and I was exploring this mountain range and it wasn't necessary in connection to looking for megalests or pyramid mountains. And I noticed these rocks wow, up on a mountain peak, and I thought, what on earth? I mean, it literally looked like they've collapsed and fallen over. So I took that stone. And what else I took was and this is something

I wanted to mention. There are rows of markings in the stones a lot of these places, right, They're like holes and they're like two to three

centimeters. Yes, right, This I believe is actually my own discovery, but it's something that I'm putting forward as something I feel as significant in this whole exploration in investigation is that you can find these rows of holes at a lot of these sites across Japan. And the interesting thing is that Kimmuto sen said, Professor Kimmuta in Okinawa claims to have found the same markings to Yonny. And that was what woke me up to that. I thought, Wow,

that means it's the same civilization. And I found these holes places. Listen, I swear probably no one has ever been to. Wow. I'm pretty wild when it gets when I'm out in the mountains, I'm pretty in true. I'm not afraid to explore, and I flound these these holes right yeah. And I'm looking at them. I'm looking at them right now, and they look like they're machined. Well they're not. They're not made by nature that we can look like. They look like they were put in there

some machine. When I first look, like this one rock you have in here is huge boulder, it's like there, it's a like a quarry.

They want to quarry it, but it looks I don't know, it's very odd now, but it's great to get your insights because I mean, I've been looking at them for so long you kind of lose sense of that or you know, seeing it for the first time, we can only draw on that what we sense about it or you know, there's not enough data yet to make any kind of statements about this, right, And I'm the first to admit that I'm just exploring and presenting the evidence of these pieces, right,

And they're there, they're there. Well, you know, it's interesting because I was just asking about artifacts at these pyramid locations and I guess, you know, uh, there there isn't really any that you mentioned, but there are petroglyphs, and I'd really like to know about this really interesting petroglyph. It's the Okinawa Rosetta stone. I guess it's called. Yes, isn't that amazing? Just going back to about the pyramids, I do believe they

have found Jaumont artifacts, right really yeah, like stone tools. I'd have to check my notes on that. But whether they're connected to the actual pyramids, it's a bit hard to know with all the time laps and you know, overlapping of the time periods. But I do believe they have found some other facts. So getting back to the Okina Rosetta stone, I was so fortunate I went down to the Okinawan Prefectual museum in anticipation of photographing these stones,

and of course that time they were not on display. Since I've gone all the way down to these are the Southern Islands, thinking oh, and I've seen these stones in picture book in photo books and books, and I just really wanted to see them. And I was so lucky I managed to speak to someone in charge and they let me see the actual stones. That

was just and they made an exception. I explained what I was doing, and funnily enough, Professor Kimuta, who is the foremost expert on the monument, had just been in the week before, so I thought, wow, it's kind of exciting, you know. So I took photos and they're quite big. I mean, probably not more than a meter, but they are quite big pieces. And I think they're thirteen to fifteen slams. They're probably

more more. When you look at those, I mean, I can't read it, but you feel it's telling some story, right, And they're pyramid shapes and birds, and I mean, do they have any idea about the age or of these stones? Because this one stone has very definite geometric forms. One looks like a looks like a ship of some kind or and I see a pyramid in a couple of them, and yes, yes, I'm

sorry, I don't know the actual dating of the stones. I know the where we're discovered, but again, like they're just a handful of people dealing with this whole body of evidence, right, you're wow, I'm not so. I mean, it's I mean, and I'm not an expert in this film, so I can't go and date those stones, right, I mean, I believe professor Commuter Commuter has written about them, so I can you

know, check into that. When you have a handful of people without probably enough funding to conduct formal investigation, how can you pull a body of dated together? You know? Yeah, I mean totally what do we know about this Rosetta stone? Do we have any is there anything anything been written about it? About where was it found? And was found out in a field somewhere in oor Kinhawa and they they found I think thirteen slabs, but it

hasn't there could be more. And I think Kimuta, professor Kmmuda has tried to read what they're at the stones are actually saying. I would need to do my own investigation again on that. It was it was a long time ago and maybe new evidence has been brought to light, so probably best I can get that to you on the next show. We'll have to get back to you. Well, I mean we'll have to have you have to call up. I will pose some more information on my website. Right. This

is good for me too, because this is this is ongoing. It could be changing today as we speak, as people are making their own investigations. The problem for me is I do read quite a lot of Japanese. Most of the material is in Japanese, and so it takes time to plow through

all of that. For me, I would like to encourage some of these Japanese researchers who are doing it on their own to bring it forth in English, and some are and so we've got to kind of work together collect exactly are any of these stones have Japanese characters or so they're totally from a different planet, almost different. Well could be. I won't speculate on that, but you know this is you know, this is where the controversy may think.

You know, Japan the Chinese calligraphy, right, It's supposed to be the starting point of Japanese ranting, and yet ancient script has been found all across Japan, and it's it's kind of just not talked about. So again it's a bit hard for me to comment on that. I don't haven't done. It's not my special field. I'm more looking into the main lifts o the structures. But you know we're trading on you know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So let's talk about this wonderful book that you wrote,

Spirit of Move. My background in working with natives and people from elders in Yukitan, Mexico. Yes, is that move is Lemuria? Yes, And to most of the understanding that I have and a lot of its myth is that it was a very sophisticated culture twenty thousand years plus ago, very very old, and through natural earth disasters are soon commies and earthquakes. It was destroyed, but it had various satellites other places where it was, yes,

you know, laying the groundwork or had settlements. And I really liked the title of this book, but I want you to tell us a little bit about why you picked that title and what it means to you. Well, what it literally means to me is the spirit of the Move continent. I've always grown up, you know, I spent most of my childhood digging up our backyard in Sydney, look looking for remain that the past. It was like I knew right from childhood that you know, I've been digging for

something in the future, and I'd be so excited. So, you know, maybe there's just something within me that innately is searching for that, and that it's not quite what we've been taught at school. That's okay, you know, things can change, you know. The funny thing is I've heard about Moon little bit in Australia, but most of us know like Atlantis. If we're lucky, right, if you've sort of heard of Atlantis, maybe

you believe it, maybe you don't. That's the level of it. I come to Japan, I see the Yona Guinea monument and in that moment I just felt that's move it was I can't you know, it sounds simplistic, but it was just annoying. I'm looking out the remains of the new civilization and the fine thing in our cliff. In Japan, everyone knows about Moon, you know that if some of them have learned it at school, it's in the Japanese collective in their psyche, right. I don't know. I

mean, please please correct me if I'm wrong. I have never met maybe one or two other Westerners who know you have heard about Move who are not in your field, right, I mean, of course, if you know about all of this, you know of Moon. It's not in the Western

psyche, right, So what is it in the Japanese psyche? You got to ask yourself, right, We'll tell me about that when you see it's in the same he Is it as a as a in their psyche, as a mythology, as a fable or is it more like it's speculation in the educational system like not that not then't got taken that out. It's all part of the mythology. But it's like, oh yeah, yeah, now Taiderku in Japanese it's New taider Yeah. And we know New Taidiku, we know

civilization of Move. Whether they believe or not is another story. But it just it sounds me that I've never actually met a Japanese person who never heard of it. Is it maybe because it was a big island in Japan's and islands, so it's kind of like it's our big sister, big brother or our grandfather island. It's just Hans curious about when you say it's all known, maybe it's like it's known because it's thought about in this manner. I

mean, can you define it a little better? Well, in the sense that if I ask a Japanese person, have you heard of the civilized last civilization of Moove? Nine people out of ten will say yes. They may not know anything about it, but I just find that And it's always a strange phenomena. I mean, and I've asked people, maybe not today, but in the past they've learned about it at school, that there's a possibility

that such a civilization existed. One of the most famous problem of actually probably the most famous magazine here, which is has been in publication for years and talks about such things as laws, civilizations, unusual phenomena is called Moo. So that might be part of it, right, And they're not. They're always talking about Move. So I can't answer that question than to say that people know about it. I mean, in Australia, if I said to

someone, have you heard of the law civilization of Moo? I don't know. Maybe today it's changed thanks to people like yourself putting the information out growing up. There's no way we would most people are familiar with Atlantis, right, this is the big story. It's the big one. Moo is very rare. You have to really dig deep to find it. You do about is that more familiar? Maia is a little more familiar. But uh,

you know there's been cartoons on Atlantis, there's been movies on Atlantis. Yeah, but lemuria and vaguely it's it's not known, right, It's very very vague. And that's what And then they call the the Japanese Atlantis, right, It's like, well, no, it's the Japanese move thank you very much. You know. Well, I just it's just it's like Moo the

mother land, right, and this is just a personal thing. I think that's what we're needing now, is that spirit of the mother um that we we have to become more caring, compassionate to each other and the land and animals and trees. And that's me is the spirit of Moo and comes through

the Japanese Shinto spirit. You know, Shinto isn't seem to just have been there from the beginning of Japan's creation, and it's just it's again my feeling on it is that perhaps Shinto is connected to MOVE and it has its roots in that and that you know, this is the Earth's She's our mother. I like to think of, you know, as as mother Earth. MOO is the motherland, and Japan seems to have all these ruins right, It's very interesting. So do you personally or through your reading, feel that those

in the know about these megalists believe they're from the offspring of Move. Yes, yes, if you read, and I've read a lot as much as I could with my ability in Japanese. I've read a lot of books put out by Japanese scholars or research is doing this on their own mind you and most people determine that it is indeed, they are the remains of Move. So and Professor Kimmuda, who's the foremost expert on Yonibun, he has stated in the past that he believes that these are all remains of MOVE, so

that in those circles it's pretty much a given. I you know, I sometimes read people say it's Atlantis, but rarely people are saying it's new tidy, good Japanese to the new civilization, and that MOVE was the center of the world at that time. And so in that sense, because so many of these ruins remain in Japan. It's not saying Japan is bad or it's the center, just that Japan can lead us to where we're heading in the

future. And I see that, you know, cliff, Japan has become almost the number one destination in the world, the last from twenty fourteen fifteen. And it makes sense to me because I feel we're all looking for something. And I'll talk to tourists in Kyota all the time and I say, what is it about Japan And they say, it's you know, up to now it's been Tempura Mount Fuji, your name right, manga again nine times out of tenants like it gives me piece of hot peace, peace of mind.

That's something in the Japanese spirit. These are answers I didn't get before. So I feel Japan like a bacon to people, you know, of all nationalities, ages, race, you know, it doesn't matter, we're all we're all one family. Maybe something a healing element is going on in Japan because you have, you know, so many sacred mountains, and people take their their sacred journeys or vision quests or their uh you know, they go to these and they do these weekend tours where they're bathe and energy and

they'll do a bath. I think this is one thing about the Japanese I love is that they take these wonderful baths. I don't think people take enough baths. Okay, well, it's a real ritual. And now I've turned in a total Now in Australia, Well, first of all, you wouldn't want to waste water, and I understand being Australian and California too, right, I just got through that. Well this year, we know we got drenched. So we're good for good thank you having your problems for the next

few years because we're thank goodness to that. Yeah, well, so we can relate on that. But you know, it's a real ritual and the purifying and cleansing of one's being and physical body, it's very important, you know. But these things are being lost in Japan, you know. I feel I've got to present both sides of the picture. Japan also needs her own healing. She's she's healing a lot of people that are coming to connect

with her spirit. But wow, Japan Spans had a crossroads here and tell us about that, because I I'm totally ignorant about what do you see from the inside is that I know you had this Fujiama, this reactor, which is very serious. Well look, you know that's just an that's something we all have to address, right, And that's that's just you know, that's always there every day. I mean, how are we going to cope with that and this? But I believe we can do it collectively if enough people

come together to find that solution. But look on all levels. I'm also an artist, and so I talked a lot of artisans. Within my lifetime. Some of the most incredible Japanese traditions could disappear and just they've lasted for thousands of years give and there's just not enough support from the government to support artisans. The number of the problems are just across the scale, right and across the board. And what I particularly am concerned about is the destruction of

the environment. I'm always fighting, like Australians love to fight for the environment. I was living in a place in Kyoto a couple of years ago, and they were going to pull down this virgin forest and so we all got together and fought to protect it and we won. And it was very unusual to win because usually the big companies win as we know, right, So Japan has changed, and it's changing rapidly, and I'm concerned, that's my honest So you see change? Are you seeing that? You already hinted it

in a minute ago. The traditions are being lost, we can as people either don't care about them or they're not promoted by the government, so they kind of go by the wayside, and just the soul is fighting to exist monetarily and they're forgetting all the subtleties of life. Is that what you mean all of that, Cliff? I mean, we live in such a busy

world. I don't know any you know, when you out there, out and about every day, everyone is on their smartphones, right, I know, you know I don't know any one, okay, and I don't care. I'm proud of that. I don't want to be ruled by my mobile phone, right. And I you know, you just realize when I look at young people, they don't know how to communicate well anymore. They don't have the traditions. They have been brought up with the traditions of their ancestors.

And I don't blame that generation. We are the ones that have to impart that knowledge to people, right, So I've spent a lot of time in Japanese schools as a teacher, and I've seen the standard education is falling. My other friends who teaching universities are saying that people don't have any vision for their future. They want to be rich, they want to own this in I think this is probably the story around the world. I don't know.

Yeah, okay, well, I think we all know that we're in we're heading for a change, and so I believe we can make it in time. But I have been concerned. I mean, Kilter is the ancient capital of Japan, and they're famous for preserving things. And even with Kilter feel the clock is sticking now. So it's a combination of things. But then the tsunami, certainly the Japanese government had had to deal with that.

Yeah, it's amazing that people have come back this far. And that's the resilience to me, the Japanese spirit, I mean, to have survived that. Yeah, talk a little bit about that. I know we talked about it offline. So the tsunami hit in twenty eleven, Yeah, and it was fairly significant, But you said it was because I mean, you guys have tsunami warnings all the time. What was so traumatizing about the one in

twenty eleven. Why did at least such a such a wound. I mean, number one, the scale and the number of people that were lost in that disaster. I mean I was in the middle of doing an exhibition and I'll never forget that the afternoon it hit and these Italian tourists had come into my exhibition. I said, I'm like, God, do you know what's

happened? We were looking at it on the internet. I mean, I think we've all we've all seen that, right, And it was just I think number one, it was the scale of it, and people are still living in shelters and people have lost families. I mean, you know, we're we've all experienced this around, people experiencing charch traggies around the world. I think it was just the scale of it. And I actually I had to leave Kilt that year. I went back home to Tokyo. Toko was

like a ghost town. You know. It was just as very strange. Even though Tokyo wasn't hit directly, people were hit emotionally. People I know experienced that day they couldn't get home, that stress that it just you know, it's it's it's still in there. I think in trauma, there's a trauma. Trauma. It was a trauma even if you were not hit directly. I don't want to say this. You know, the people that were hit directly, there are no words to describe what that must have been like.

You know, I went up a couple of years after it hit. I just wanted to pray for the people that had lost their lives. When I got off the train, I'll never forget. It was one of the most devastated areas. I could barely breathe and I couldn't work out what was going on, but it was I don't know. I mean, I'm quite sensitive to energy, but it was just like I really I had a very great difficulty in breathing, probably a heaviness in the air to it extreme. Yeah, yes, yes, And it's not over. I mean, we

still have Shima to deal with, so I think that's it. If we didn't have that on top of everything else. So that hit hard, That hit hard well. Kia Yamagucci, this is a wonderful book, Spirit of move It's filled with great photographs. How can we see, first of all, give us your website. So I'm going to post it. But what's the website again? So we can okay, it's called Sacred Gateways of Japan and can I I'll have to send you the link to that. I don't

know if I have it. I looked it up, so I'll post it. Thank you. The book is Spirit of Move Can they get the book on the website? I'm afraid it's out of print. Oh my goodness, I know printers going a gig because you made want it. Who knows? Maybe this is something is going to happen now. So I mean, you know, I feel that this there isn't going to be a renewed interest in this area, not just through my work of course, all these people putting

this information now, I would really encourage your listeners. You know, it's it's one thing to hear me go on about it and not always be able to explain the details. I think to see it that visual impact. So I really encourage your listeners if you have a moment, check out the photos to yourself, and I want to hear what people you know, how they react. Definitely, Um, I will, like I said, I'll put all the information on the website. Think so Kara, thank you, and

we're going to have you back, probably I want to the summertime. Yeah, I want a little more detail, a lot more detail about some of these megalists because I I'm looking at your book, there's so many I've never even seen. Like some of the sections of the of the book look like you're in England. Oh that's true. That's very true, isn't it. Yes, there's the megalists that are standing in their position and they look like

observat observatory. So this gives me time to check out the latest what you know, the new data that's coming forth, and I'll get it translated into English bringing more details. But thank you listen. It's just been an honor to be on your show, and thank you for putting this out to the world. Really well, have you back, Thanks again, Thank you wonderful.

Thanks everyone for listening. It's obvious that nobody has used any kind of meter to scan for electro magnetic or gravitational, geo magnetic signatures whatsoever in any of these places. I bet you're there. It's all over the place. I mean, Japan is very geologically active with earthquakes and tremors and things like that. There's probably tons of lay lines. If there was somebody who would go out there and study it, they would probably find just lay lines running

through, crisscrossing everywhere. It's really important to consider Japan as part of a once massive continent known as Moo or Lemuria. And as I looked through the catalogs of Karras Catalog and other photo galleries of megalists in Japan, it makes more sense to me that it was once part of a very sophisticated society known as Moo, which means that these megalists, like this monstrosity in at Yakashima Island are linked to that, and they're all part of that. And so

with that mindset, we really need to go to work. But obviously without a interest from the people, then I don't know what kind of legal ramifications are involved. At this point, you can pay to go travel to the island and spend the data as a hotel on the island, you can visit and create an itinerary to climb or to hike up to the top of the mountain. Doesn't look like it's very difficult study this massive megalith. And then

as you're going up there, there's megalists along the way. Some of them are huge, fifty to one hundred tons, so fascinating, just just amazing. And this is this is the whole story behind the megalith. You know, who put them there? What were their purpose? Obviously this is an earlier epic. The co Fund structures are our big question, as well as the other megalis that are linked up and down the island of Japan. It's

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