Paul Anthony Wallis: Escaping From Eden

of stuff to tell me. The archaeological parks are still there that she needs, ushmo Ek Balaam, the black Jaguar, the whole punk route, which is the Saylo and Labna, just some of the most beautiful and elegant Mayan cities in all of the Maya domain. That's that's north of

the North Yucatan. And what we're discovering is, and this is something I've been wanting to have happened in a while for a while, is that they are just they're doing more lightar scans, this very special laser scanning of the you could call it biasphere, the jungle area that surrounds these Mayan cities that I have just mentioned, and what they're discovering is the similar kind of a layout that we find in Guatemala, which are city after city

after city. Now, lightar is a wonderful tool for archaeologists and it's revolutionized archaeological research for this simple reason that they can fly a drone or a plane or a helicopter over a region, shoot this laser down. It removes the foliage, just the bushes, the trees, the moss, even up to a couple of feet of groundcover and reveal these buildings. And they're uncovering layers and layers and cities

next to cities. I would love to see Ina, the archaeological community of Mexico do a thorough scan and really let the cat out of the bag, because I have known for a couple decades, based on the contact that I've had with elders, the Mayan elders in that region,

that there are cities littered everywhere. And we know this not only because of the sock bees, which are the white roads that connect these cities that have been in a in existence for thousands of years, but also because there are documents, historical records when the conquistadors of Spanish came and began settling in there and conquering the Maya in the fifteen hundreds. So this is very important data. I am excited again because I haven't been down there.

If you can, it's a very inexpensive trip to fly from the United States to Mexico, and then you just take a cab or you take a car and you go to these places. And when you enter these archaeological parks, they're wonderful. They are well preserved. Some of the bigger locations like Chichen Eats and Ushmo have been pains takingly excavated and what they call consolidated so that the buildings are as good as they can get them.

great thing. It's not because you need to connect with these places. And one of the things that we'll be talking about on this tour is the energy. Now we now know by through NASA and people like John Burke that the older pyramids are active, meaning that they're sitting on tolluric energy fields which are part of lay lines. What we I don't know, and I'd love for somebody to begin studying this again, is why they would run channels of water underneath these pyramids and the lay lands.

There's some chemical component, there's some combustion, there's some electric energy magnification that's going on inside these pyramids, and then they're bursting forth with this tilleric energy. Some people believe that Tesla, in his Warningcliffe tower that he built, had the idea that the atmosphere could be charged with electricity and that you could power all kinds of not only was it good for communication, but you could power all kinds of vehicles with this energy. And the thinking is

that this is what the Maya did. Now, we're not saying that the Maya had craft that flew and drove on the sockbies. But I do believe that they did have the wheel. I think the mile we're more into the energetics of Tuller energy fields, and we're using it to enhance their cognition, perhaps physical health, and I mean on a real extreme thought possibility, on a high end level. Perhaps they were channeling by locating, doing all kinds of

stuff when it comes to using power. Now we're going to be speaking to Paul Anthony Wallace today, who has written the Eden series. We're going to focus on Escaping from Eating his first book that came out in twenty twenty. He is of the belief that aliens came and not only created us through a hybridization program, but that much of our history, most notably in the Bible, can betributed to alien interaction. Now this is not Eric Donnegan ancient aliens.

This is more religious side of it. Remember, if you don't know who Paul Wallace's will know about, we'll hear about him later today. But he's an archdeacon, former archdeacon, church doctor in Australia, and so he fell upon some data that we're going to hear about today and it helped him reinterpret Genesis and also other sections of the Bible in a new way. Some people feel its a

revolutionary way. I have, as you know, have a challenge with ancient aliens because I think they go a little too extreme and anything that can't be explained as the work of aliens. I'm more with Graham Hancock, which is there was an epic or there was an epoch where Earth humans were very advanced and could create pyramids that generated energy, use that energy in a certain way, you know. And the thing is we read about the vamanas. How did the vimanas? How were they powered? Were they powered

through turillerg energy? Where they powered through mercury? Some people believe that they were powered through mercury engines.

of the new unveilings. They've done some excavations at Ushmol, They've done some re open some sections of Labna and sail in the golf portion of the Peninsula, and then we're going to go to a new area of ek Baalam that they've discovered with some fascinating figurines, stucco figurines that have just been on Earth. They found a whole what they call apartment section that has wall figurines that are just beautiful, just fabulous. So I'll report back to

you on that. I want to also mention that we have now filled our Repanui Easter Island tour March fifteenth to twenty third. If you are on the fence about joining us, what you need to do is send me an email, send it to send it to earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com and say Cliff I'd like to join you. We're going to create a small waiting list and we will open the door for probably a handful of three to five more people who want

to join us. If you want to know about that tour again, it's March fifteenth to the twenty third, twenty twenty five. You can go to earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours and see the entire itinerary. And this is a special group. It's a small group of about twenty plus people that will be led by doctor Ed Barnhard, who is going to show us some very unusual and also off the beaten path sites on Easter Island and we're gonna have a blast. I'm really really looking forward

to it. So again, if you're interested in that tour, you won't be hearing any more ads about it because we're full. But we are taking a handful of additional people, almost a first come first sort of get on the list and we'll see if we can get you on there. Again, if you want to ask me a question about it, you got my address at Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com. So today's program is with Paul. Anthony

Wallace is the Escaping from Eden. He has a number of books that have come out since Escape Escaping from Eden has been released. The latest book is Echoes of Eden. And what's fascinating about Paul is he calls himself a paleo contact researcher, paleo meaning extremely old in the ancient past, obviously contact and this is the alien et contact with Earthlings. The conversation delves into today's contact with UAPs and his belief on who they are and their link to the

current Homo sapien sapiens that are here. Remember, his belief is that we are highbred as we are a creation from an alien race. And what makes this interview much more palatable than the simple ancient alien theme is the fact that he backs up all of his claims based on Bible, based on Bible passages, based on ancient literature.

And what's even more fascinating for me is when I asked him if he had any connection with zach Karaz Sichen, who was a very big an Anachi person, ancient alien advocate. He didn't know about Zacharai Sitchen and he made a point of not using Sitchen's material as reference. Now that's refreshing. So see what you think, and I hope you enjoyed the program today. So today we are again presenting Escape

from Eden. My guest is Paul Anthony Wallace, roll about the ancient past, the known history, but it's a great deal of unknown history that we feature each week on Earth Ancients. And this week we are introducing someone who I have just discovered, which is funny because he's been around for a few years now, and that is Paul Anthony Wallace. And let me tell you a little bit about him. He is an internationally best selling author whose

books pro world ancestral narratives. He's what he calls a paleo contact specialist, and that is something that will discover. But what makes Paul unique is that he is a senior churchman. He served thirty three years as a church doctor, a theological educator and an archdeacon in the Anglican Church in Australia, and he is coming to us from Australia. What Paul written is a series of books on the ancient past. The one I'm reading right now is called

Echoes of Eden. But he has a series of books that look at our beginnings from really the biblical past. But also he includes uniformed tablets and other research material to make these books fascinating and very very readable. So today we're going to introduce Paul and we're going to get a sense of what he's been talking about and what he feels is perhaps a narrative of our ancient past that is not presented in quite the light that he has presented in these books. So hey, Paul, welcome

to Earth Ancient. It's great to have you on the program.

this story. If not, where did it come from? And how did it look before it looked like this form analysis? What kind of literature is this we're reading? How should we read it? And then the fundamental question what do the words mean? And these are the things that we explore in hermeneutics. And what happened is as I mentioned in the first of my Palio contact books, which is

this one escaping from Eden. I suffered from an ultimate frisbee injury, which is a code actually for a number of times where I've been given the opportunity to take a pause between assignments and just do my own research for its own sake, So instead of reading the Bible for the sake of a sermon on Sunday morning, really plumbing the interesting questions that pastors often don't have the time to dig into. And anyone who.

know they're naked, keeping them at an animal level. And then some other figure who on earth is that wants them to have a happier, more sophisticated human experience. Now I've got the God character obliterating the human race save for one family. I thought it was a God of love. These are very obvious questions that you'll be asking before your six chapters into the book let alone, when you get further in and there's very violent, brutal behavior that

is all credited to the God character. And when I had this period between pastorates, I went back to those kinds of questions and I tackled them as Bible translation questions. What happens if we read these stories according to the root meanings of the words rather than conventional translations that have grown up over the centuries. If we go back to the Hebrew and go back to the root meanings,

what story emerges in the most primitive reading? And I found very quickly that what emerges is a story of patio contacts.

And the fact that the stories parallel them so closely made me look at the Bible in a completely fresh way. And I realized that the patio contact theme really extends from page one to the final page of the Bible. And that was the little white rabbit that got me onto this whole territory.

conclusions to Sitchin, that's interesting for the reader. Yeah, And they might say, oh, here are two people with completely different start points, completely different backgrounds, and they've reached similar conclusions. Wouldn't that be more interesting? And so I made that my decision. And so to this day I've not read a single Zechari Sicchin book. I know about him, I know a little about his work, and I know that what Sitchin was doing was not really bringing super fresh interpretations.

What he was doing was rubbing in people's faces the implications of the translations of the Kunea form texts that already existed. So, as I've studied the Kunaea form texts from Sumeria, Babylonia, Arcadia, and Assyria, I've used only the most widely accepted translations, followed the narratives and said, what did that just say?

the origins of Homo sapiens. I was fascinated to see these areas of overlap from culture to culture, cultures that had no contact with each other, from age to age, and the overlaps suggest a long period in the story of human development in which we were a didn't altered by visitors, and so we've got in the Bible and the Canoe form texts stories about the creation of a species, which is really the modification of a hominid that was already here to a point where we could be a

useful working class to those who were governing us, who were from somewhere else.

best part of two hundred years. Francisco Jimenez was a wonderful Dominican priest who loved his people and was a genuine seeker of truth, a real researcher, a linguist, and when they said this is our story of beginnings, would you like to look at it? He was thrilled and he translated it into Spanish. The Pope porl vu all that is a preamble to say, you read that. And the story of human origins is mind blowing for its

openness and honesty. It talks about these non human entities who came and they wanted a working class, and it took them a long long time to get the kind of human that they wanted. And without going into too much detail, it suggests that it's not only us, but it's us and the shared relatives we have with the other primates. These were all the result of artificial involvement

in animal development on planet Earth. And so these stories of intervention alteration go back prior to two hundred thousand years ago, because we've looked like this for at least two hundred thousand years. But then there are other moments in this human story as well that reflect an intervention as recently, I argue in my books as ten thousand years ago, just on this side really of the younger driest Cold period, the most recent ice Age, a moment

when humanity was on the brink of extinction. Cultures all around the world talk about mysterious others who turned up and help us re establish ourselves on the planet, to rediscover agriculture, to rediscover medicine, to rediscover civil engineering, and that's the beginning of civilization as we know it. And again it's the correlations from the po pas Vou to the Sumerians to the Bible, African narratives, Norse narratives, Vadic narratives,

Greek narratives. The overlaps tell us that our ancestors maintained a memory of these interventions, and they all found different ways of telling those stories, different names, different metaphors. But when you drill down and ask each story, what is the memory this story was created in order to maintain the memory is the same that we have had help many times over in our long story as humanity.

Everywhere you go, where you'll find folklaric story or initiation traditions that have been maintained, this theme is there, and it's not just there in the world of mythology and

ancestral stories. There are mainstream serious anthropologists today who are saying that we've been around for two hundred thousand years, but at some point we suddenly got a lot smarter, and they are suggesting that our exposure to psychoactive foods and drinks may have activated parts of our brain and enabled us to access our imagination and creativity in ways that simply had not happened before. And once it had been switched on, we started using it, and then it's

like a muscle. You use it, it develops. So I find it interesting that that story is there in mainstream science today, but it's also there in deep ancestral story. So I think that is a real part of our history.

of Eden. We'll be right back. My guest today is author Paul Anthony Wallace, who's taken another look at the Bible and other biblical docum imments and rewritten an ancient history of Creator Guides in his Eden series.

huge hole in our knowledge of Homosapians. On the one hand, we've got research like that of Manfred Hoyne, who took a team from the University of os in Norway and the Maxi Plank Institute in Cologne, Germany, to Turkey where I was recently, and to Kara Jada, and they identified what appears to be the prototype farm in the story of modern civilization, and they dated that to about ten thousand years ago, except we've got megalithic remains from prior

to that period, and so there's a dovetailing of civilizations. We know a little bit about what's happened in the last ten thousand years and next to nothing about who built those structures that predate that. So I find that interesting on its own. I think there are questions still to be answered about how some structures were created, what technologies we use to transport and cut the stone we're

looking at. I mean, for instance, in Turkey, we can find basalt that's been worked with in a way that looks like diamond grade tungsten carbide tools have been used, except we're told no, they only had bronze and iron.

was a presence living here. They were using underwater bases, but they were representing others out in space, and they were making an intervention to help humanity develop in the aftermath of the most recent ice age. So I go there and say, well, the ancient said this, But I can't point to a building or an artifact and say, oh, an extraterrestrial built that.

and Assyria boils them down in a summary form. They really comprise the first eleven chapters of Genesis, and then the stories developed from their stories of multiple advanced beings called the Elohim, who are governing over different colonies of humans. They're described collectively as the el ba'a dat the council of power. And if you go to Psalm eighty two and Deuteronomy thirty two, a post invasion committee meeting is described where the senior being Elion, is handing out territories

to the different Elohim. Their arrival is commemorated as the arrival of the Sava Hasha Maim the sky armies. All this is there in black and white in the texts. It's just not usually preached on. So the radical thing I'm saying is just read those texts, read those stories, and keep the keywords in their root form. Keep Elahim as Elohim, el elyon early on, el Shaddai as al Shadai,

jahwe is Jahweh. And the shape of the stories tells you what you're looking at, the story of an invasion, parceling out of lands, and then managing of human colonies by non human entities. That's how the stories were until the eighth to sixth century BCE. And then the Bible itself tells us that there was a sequence of kings and high priests who wanted to obliterate the memory of

paleoc contact and turn Judaism into a monotheistic religion. And so this begins with King Hezekiah, who comes along and he is a Yahuist. So among all those Elohim, there's one called Yahweh. He worships one called h Yahweh. He wants to obliterate the memory of the other Elahim. And what that means is he wants all the other Jewish priesthoods. Jewish priesthoods mark you disbanded. So the Jewish priesthood to Asherah disbanded, the Jewish priesthood to Milcom, to ch marsh

all these other named entities disbanded or sorted. He wants their temples destroyed, their altars broken, their figurines will have their heads broken off. And in the Jerusalem Temple, the installations to those other beings will be taken down, and the carvings of those other beings will be defaced, and the carving of Yahweh that showed everyone what he looked like would be confiscated and destroyed. This is King Hezek.

It's all there in the Bible. And so the Jerusalem Guard goes into the temple that goes around Judea does all that to get rid.

one who gets named is Asherah. And Jeremiah laments the fact that on every high hill and under every green tree you can find an installation to Asherah. But at the same time, the Jewish people are saying, thank goodness, we're not ruled anymore by Yahweh, and we got rid of him, and we're not under his laws anymore. Jeremiah reports this as something terrible, But the moment you separate his opinion from his information, you realize he's telling us.

They have a memory of these other beings. They remember what Yahweh was like, what Ashra was like. They told those stories. But now that's got to be gotten rid of.

these other beings positively, And so the narrator has to put a spin on the stories, and he says, well, they all married foreign wise, didn't they?

shown really confirmed that. Research Karaja Da by Manfred Hoyne confirmed that agriculture started there, and then it shows the DNA record shows that information moving westwards across into northern Europe, and by about four thousand BCE it had reached northern Ireland and with it not only can you see advanced farming, but you can see megalithic building. So it's another scientific discipline that confirms the ancient stories of a reboot of

humanity in ancient Armenia. After the younger Darias, I.

under your belt. You can't be hunter gather as building structures like that, and so one would think, well, maybe the survivors of a previous civilization are seeding the beginning of a new one, and that may very well have happened. And that is the view that Graham Hancock speaks about in his books and in his Fantastic TV series. But if we again listen to ancestral narratives from all around the world, there's another layer to this.

described beings who were very, very different to themselves. They were incredibly slender physically, and they had an ability to ping in and out of their immediate space in a way that they couldn't understand. So that doesn't sound like human beings, doesn't sound like people who were living there before. Sounds very very different. In the Babylonian story that I mentioned before, the helpers don't sound like a previous culture because their physicality is described.

from an alien race. I guess I'm going to ask you another one about your own personal experience here in a second, in terms of as an experiencer. But I'm just curious because we don't seem to be welcoming any other civilizations we've seen, especially in the United States. We're very shoot first, asked questions.

spruit that for a moment the invasion of Eden. I ask all the questions that you just asked, Cliff, why are we handling the prospect of contact today in the way we are. It's all being framed as existential threat. When we had that here in last year following the David Grush complaint, where essentially the US Congress wanting to know what does the Pentagon though about UAPs or UFOs. It turns out there's contact. We're in possession of entire craft,

not in human biologics. And clearly there are units within military intelligence who want to control the narrative and control any contact or conversations that are going on. So I do believe there are sit down conversations going on, but it's just not happening publicly. And I also know that military intelligence is very interested in the ancient stories to help them have their heads around what current contact might mean. I believe we have more helpers available to us now

than we've ever had in human history. But we may have some predatory contact as well, and there may be somewhat of an uneasy truce over how Project Earth is being managed by our various visitors. So when our ancestors talk about a sky council or a council of power. I think that still exists, but it's just not in

the public domain now. Haimashed, who I mentioned before, the brigadier general who for twenty eight years run the space security program for Israel, is saying that until we are truly a space faring civilization, until we have the technology that gives us access to the cosmos, we are the observed. To echo what you were saying, we're the ones who were studied and collaboration that Taymashd talks about is really

on the terms of our visitors. But once it goes public that we can now locomote through the cosmos, once we have that technology, that's when everything is going to change. That's when a whole load of new protocols comes in and there might be a bit more disclosure at that point.

sit down conversations right now. And it's one of the reasons why I find at a very exciting time to be writing about ancestral knowledge, because how can it be that our ancestors.

company now. In my case, when I published Escaping from Eden a few years ago, I had people beginning to contact me who had experienced close encounters, and a very large proportion of these people were veterans of war and they'd had in in the context of their military service, and they didn't want to immediately share their stories with me because of the ridicule factor and the protection of

their privacy. And so they'd sound me out and they'd say, Paul, if you had a close encounter, they wanted to know if they could share their story with me, And early on my answer was well, no, I haven't, but many of my friends have, and I take it very seriously, and that was enough for people to feel they could trust me and start sharing their own stories. And the more stories I heard, the more I was thinking, wait.

or it didn't exist. And so these strange experiences that I'd had, I tried to force into one of those boxes. And so the terrifying experience, well, that presumably was demonic. The elevating experience, oh, that must have been angelic then. And I didn't even have language for lost time to

explain another to encounters. Only as I listened to the stories of others did I realize, wait a minute, those five entities in my apartment in Bath were not demons, because well, they don't fit anything in the biblical Geneo Christian tradition about demons. They're not physical entities, they're not the size of a year six, they're not half cloaked, and they don't appear in your place just observing you.

I had a terrifying experience where this happened and I saw them so vividly, and then I don't remember what happened next.

close encounter with what I believe was small grays. I lived very close to a Ministry of Defense installation in the city of Bath, and you probably know those kind of areas are shot spots, so sightings of that kind. So that was one experience, and then I had two experiences of lost time before I had the language for that. And it's only now listening to others who've experienced lost time that I realized that happened to me twice in

that year. Then I had another encounter and again it sounds like a story of nothing, where I was at a shop in Chichester and these two people came into the shop with a baby and a stroller who were just incredibly beautiful and threw off this incredible energy and I just had to watch, sort of open mouths that these people as they moved through the shop, and they

were shopping in a very strange way. Both the man and the woman were just going up taking things off the shelf, almost blindly like that, putting it in to the baskets, no coordination, not I'll get this, honey, you get that.

are you? But even I thought that might be a bit weird, and I didn't, and again it just remained a memory that I couldn't explain. I've not had an experience like that before or since.

And with some people who've told me very similar stories, there's a story of missing time that comes with it.

to share their stories. Give permission for people to share their stories, because the more people you hear with a story like that, the sooner you're going to start thinking, all right, something's going on.

you here. I want to break the taboo for people of faith who think that their Christian faith or their Jewish faith means they're not allowed to consider the possibility of a populated cosmos or et contact today and show no, actually, you should be on the front foot because your Bible is full of information about this, and so really I want to make this a much broader topic, much more accessible, show that it's grounded, it's not just pure speculation, it's

not just for crazy eufologists, and make this much more a part of mainstream conversation than we've seen, probably since Eric Vondnakin bust the bubble back in the sixties and seventies with charits of the gods.

got a bit of a demonic feeling. And the reason they have that feeling is because of that stamping out of images from prior cultures, images like the one on the seal used by that Jewish official. So that's part of the picture we've had. Of course, plenty of Hollywood, fair Invasion of the Body, Mars attacks, independent stay, the three body problem recently, but might make people a little bit scared of what contact could mean. And again, this is one reason I love to go back to the

ancestral stories, because there is the balance. Yes, we may have had experiences in the past that were unhappy ones, but the stories of helpers from cosmic cousins, well, they are overwhelming, and I think we will ask better questions about contact in the presence in the present when we

know these ancestral stories a bit better. So all my books go into indigenous story and ancestral story and say, just look at the patterns, look at the overlap, what does that mean, and how might that help us moving forward if we're in contact in the present.

living longer because they have this genetics. People like Noah and the other biblical Biblical characters are very long lived exceptional human beings, and you know we don't have that. As Paul writes in his books, we were downgraded because we were too powerful. We were all demi gods. So fun read. I'm still trying to figure out where it fits, how we can perhaps quantify, qualify, justify this material in today's world. He was not able to present any sites

that are homes or temples or places of worship. I haven't read enough about the material, but it does open a new door to the possibilities. And his openness on the UAP question I thought was refreshing. I knew Zacharia sitching personally. He wouldn't talk on UFOs at that time. And the other thing about Zacharia or Zach as we call him, is that he wasn't really big on being questioned. He didn't like people questioning him on his interpretations of the clay tablets, the cuneiform tablets.

panel discussion. And one of the great things I love to have when I had all these people at these conferences in San Francisco or Atlanta, Georgia, or in some of the other states that we would visit on the conference, including Austin, Texas, was that when you have all these people at the show and you're paying for their hotels where as well as their honorarium, they're speaking fee, to put them all together on a panel discussion is very powerful because you get all these points of views and

you have a panel that has a certain theme. Sichan would not sit on a panel, So I made a very very difficult to question his references, his research where it came from. He just would not put up with it. So and I don't know if that's because he had a period where he was being questioned on his data his research and he just got tired of it, or he had a unique way of interpreting. These clay tablets, the cuneiform tablets from sume Aria, from sumer So we'll

never know. He's passed away and I's been gone a number of years and his books are still interesting. But Paul is a different perspective, a new breath of fresh air and something to consider. Now. Again, I don't think he's Eric von don Again. I think Eric has a problem validating his sources. And you know, for a long time in his youth, Eric would actually travel the world. This is something that is unique about Eric went down again. He'd actually travels to these places in different parts of

the world. He'd get on a plane, fly to South America, he'd go to Mexico, he'd go to different places in Europe and even Australia, and he'd actually fine and look at these areas and write about him. So you guys all know how I feel about ancient aliens. I just think that they're spinning off into the universe without really validating much, and the people that join the show each week are just reinforcing this weird narrative and saying, you know,

the aliens did it. And I think moving forward into the future, they need to begin to take a better look at what they're presenting because I don't think it washes too well. So Anyhow, I want to have Paul on again. He's gotten of new books coming out next year, and I promise I'll get more detailed in my questioning as I as I look at what he's trying to present and see if it has you know, it rings true on the hybrid side, that's a huge question. And

I've always brought this up. Where are all these hominints coming from Neanderthal danusivin creole magnet? You know they're dying out? How do we how are we able to sustain our evolution? Homo sapien sapien? Now he did say something I thought was a little revealing. He did mention pan spermia as a source of data capture and perhaps evolution. And you

know we've had the top of the line. We have a doctor Wick Ramsey here on the show, who's with Fred Hoyle, you know, developed the whole theory of panspermia. A lot of scientists don't acknowledge it, and I think

it's it's not valid. I think it is. And you know, if this is a way to evolve our species through minute bacteria that sparks our brain to grow our DNA to change or evolve, this is something that should be studied with a greater sense of urgency because we here in the United States, we have a divided country and I'm wondering if the parents bermia is spinning off into the to the universe and some people are losing their sense of perspective. But we won't get into that with

any details. So anyhow, we're going to have Paul back. That was fun having him on the program. And his books are very, very easy to read, and he has released a audible version of the first book, Escaping from Eden, and it's not him narrating, it's somebody else. But it's very easy to listen to and it is. It's a fun it's a fun read, it's a fun listen. So consider that too. Hey, if you're enjoying Earth Ancients, please consider becoming a subscriber for as little as five dollars

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forward Slash Earth Ancients. All right, I'll be in the jungles of Yucatan, Mexico. Look for my update. The next couple of shows will be prerecorded, but I'll be stepping in. I'll be only gone for about seven days, but I will definitely be continuing with the program, no breaks ever, and I'll report back to you with some new data on the ancient Mayan ruins of the Yucatan Peninsula. All right,

that's it for this program. Thank you to my guest Paul Anthony Wallace coming to us from Australia and his new series Echoes of Eden. As always, the team of Gail tour, Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. You guys are rock all right, Take care of you well and we will talk to you next time.