You know, it's fun to read the newspaper or reads the internet for news on what's going on, and sometimes it validates material that we have here on the podcast. There's an article that came out recently on CNN and that validates our recent guest, Michael Kream. Will remember he was promoting his book Extreme Human Antiquity, and it looks like China has been sitting on a human skull that's over one million years old. Let me repeat that, over
one million years old. And up to that time or up till now, at least the oldest human Homo sapien skeleton that we've had is about three hundred thousand years old. And this is a really, really big indication that we need to sit tight when it comes to dates on skeletal remains because it looks like it's going to get older as well. And this is something that has been of great interest to me as well as many other
people in the Anomalist History segment. Hey, this is clip your host of Earth Asients, and we got an article that came out just this morning on CNN and I'm going to post it on the Facebook page but also on notes for this podcast, and what's fascinating. Not only it is a modernist skull, but it really validates what
Michael's been researching. Another thing that is known to most people who read Michael's work, especially Forbid in archaeology, is a lot of discoveries were made before the turn of the century and they were chronicled by early archaeologists who wrote articles about bones being found in different strata, some of them found in the cold mime and it needed to have modern analysis to reveal the true age of
many of the skeleton remains. But here's what I and I'm going to read this to you just a few paragraphs. This is the article that came out. This is why this is important. A skull unearthed in China challenges the timeline of human evolution. Scientists say a badly crushed cranium on Earth decades ago from a riverbank in central China that once defied classification is now shaking up the human
family tree. According to new analysis, scientists digitally reconstructed the squash skull, thought to be one million years old, and its features suggest that the fossil belonged to the same lineage as a striking specimen called dragon Man and the Denisovans, a recently discovered population of prehistoric humans with murky origins. The skull's age and categorization as a early Denisovan ancestor would mean the group originated much earlier than thought. The researchers.
Wider analysis, based on the reconstruction of the more than one hundred other skull fossils, has also sketched a radically different picture of human evolution, they reported Thursday in the journal Science. The results significantly shift the timeline for species such as our own Homo sapiens and Homo Neanderthalsals archaic humans also lived in Europe and Central Asia before disappearing around forty thousand years ago, are known to have lived
alongside the Dignificence and innerbred with them. This changes a lot of thinking because it suggests that by one million years ago, our ancestors had already split into distinctive groups, pointing to a much earlier and more complex human evolutionary split than previously believe, said study co author Chris Springer, paleo anthropologist and research leader in human evolution at London's
Natural History Museum, in an email. So that's about as much as I want to read right now, But you can read the whole thing if you go to CNN and punching a skull unearthed in China, or just go to Facebook and you can see all the details under Earth ancients. Now, remember the the Vedic history of the world is very, very old, and this is why we fall on the cyclic history of Earth through the Yugas. And if you calculate the Yugas, they go into hundreds
of millions of years, because there's a continual cycle. And so I personally don't have a problem when Michael says they have found modern humans to live a million years, ten million years, and as much as one hundred million years in the past. Because our world is a cycle. We develop in some cases to a high degree and then we de evolve either through our own huberis could be well, could be bombs, could be disease, could be
some great catastrophe. It could be through outer space some form of sun energy release sun spots that are so powerful that burns everything on the surface of the planet. We don't know, but to say that we're the only ones around. We've always been the high the most sophisticated people that doesn't really ring well. And here on Earth ancients. We find and report on evidence of ancient civilizations that
were here before us that have left their remains. Now, every single week, it seems like I find more evidence that the Egyptians, the Pharaohs that are best known, were reusing temples and reusing tomb goods and pyramids. We know if pyramids were not made for tombs, but if they if the pyramids were made one hundred thousand years ago the civilization was gone, then whoever came back to the area and resettled, they're going to have another purpose for
the pyramids. They're going to use it for they have other needs for it, and eventually the most recent group's going to use it for tombs. But this is the kind of the theme, is that we're going to have to dig a little deeper and be open to the possibilities of very early people. And so this is this is a fascinating consideration. So check out that article from CNN and hold your breath, because I think there's more
to come. One million year old skeleton. So today's program is a continuation of our support for the first International Congress of Forbidden History, and we have a guest, Marco Baloni, who wrote a book called I Discovered the Real Atlantis. He is an Italian scientists and he has written a couple of books and written an article that he's presenting at the congress. Remember that's October eighteenth of the nineteenth in Milan. For more information, go to Eighth Continentgroup dot
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be held in Italy. But if you're interested in the streaming version, go to Eighth Continentgroup dot com and it'll be streamed an available October thirtieth. And this is a program that our friend Raphael Eisman along with the team, has put together. And my guest today is Marco Bollini. He is the author of the Atlantis Libyrinth and this is a fascinating book simply because he believes and it looks very compelling that he has found the fabled Atlantis
in the Ice region of Russia. We're gonna hear all about it and we're gonna get the details. Marco is a nuclear engineer born in Italy and he has had a study and an interest in history and archaeology, mythology and the history of Atlantis. And he lives in Milan and he's coming to us with details of this new book he'll be speaking on I can't remember what had to ask him the eighteenth of the nineteenth as part of this new conference called the First International Congress of
Forbidden History. So Marco, welcome to Earth the Ancient is great to have you on the program.
Hello everybody, Hello Cleief.
So tell us a little bit about yourself. How did you get interested in Atlantis? It's a myth. We thought I was a myth, but you actually may have found it. How did you get involved in the discovery of this.
So, Cliff, Actually, I leaved abroad since I was very young. When I was born. I just left Italy and went in Jordan. Then I went in Nigerily and then in Pakistan, and so I spent the first sixteen years of my life abroad. And during these continuous changes in different countries and the continents, my father was working for a building company and when they were working the ground, many times they found many archaeological finding. So the city is under
the ground. And I was a young boy and was fascinated by the fact that the houses were not only over the ground, but they were also under and they were maybe past a thousands year and nobody knew why this happened. So for the whole life I've been fascinated by archaeology and mythology. And another important thing that of which I was interested is the fact that there is a common language between European languages and Indian languages. I
was able since I was young eighty years old. I was able to understand people Pakistani people talking in Urdu and I was talking just in Italian, and we were able to understand each other. So when I came in Italy, then I studied this problem and I found that there is an important hypothesis of a common origin of the
Indo Europeans languages. So the scientists think that there was maybe a place, a commonplace in which people were living together, or maybe they were just so near and so close one to each other that they were able to understand each other and the language was just one. This happened thousands years ago, but nobody knows where. So I was fascinated by these important solution, and so I tried to understand or continue to look at new archaeological findings, new
discoveries in order to study this problem. And during my continuous research researches, I found a place in the north of Europe which had many interesting and fascinating buildings towers, walls, and none of us was able to know this place because there are no many tourists going there and visit this place. So when I saw these archaeological findings, actually I reminded the meat of Athleanties written by Plato, and
so I started to study it. I used the story of Plato, and I divided the story in arguments, and for each argument presented by Plato, I tried to understand if this place was possible to find what he was looking, what it was explaining, And I found so many informations that at the end of my studies, after three years of studies and for travels done in the place, I
decided to write a book. So my idea was not to study the Atlantis meat, but I have been completely fascinated by the place in which I found all these findings.
So Marco, let me ask you, so, when did you begin thinking that Plato's myth of Atlantis was a real place? Was it like a five years ago, ten years ago.
No, during two thousand and seven, so seventeen years ago.
Seventeen years ago, yes, And in your research you began looking for geological locations.
What was the.
Compelling evidence that you found in the Soviet region that made you think that that was where Atlantis was.
So the first important thing was the fact that I have used that. There were many evidences regarding details described by Plato. For example, Plato talks about an acropolis which towers, big towers and big walls made of stones. And in this place there is a major monastery that the history Russian history tells us that have been built by monks
during the sixteenth century after Christ. And my opinion is that the monks actually found the ruins of a presisting structure and they just recovered it, so they did not build everything from zero, but they found it destroyed. So this was my first information and I decided to continue that is, using satellite views USINGSA data. So the NASA at the time was the only one that was possible to use because actually Google did not work so well
as today. So we using NESA word wind, I analyzed all the details of the territory and I found a structure which had a central mountain in the middle of the island. I measured the dimensions of the island, and the dimension were exactly the one described by Plato. Plato says that the island had a radius of fifty study, which is nine kilometers. According to many measurements, the diameter of the island was eighteen kilometers. So this was the
first important thing. Then I tried to emphasize the structure of the territory, and I found also a possible localization of the circular rings of which Plato talks about top Plato talks about rings of water off the sea and of land, and so there is a structure which resembles the decision of Plato. But of course the island has been destroyed, and so not any place is possible to visit to see this symmetrical structure. But in some places of the island this is possible. So I continued all
my researches. I've done a list of hundred items, and I went on the island without talking Russia, without talking English, because nobody was able to understand anything ex a Russia. Yeah.
Yeah, So let's write people, let's just say where it is. It's it's in Solovetski Acapello, which is in uh it's.
In the middle of the White Sea, the.
Middle of the White Sea. Yes, and so describe and you're doing a good job of it. Describe what Plato presents as what uh Atlantis looks like, and the similarities of the acapello that you're telling us is Atlantics.
Yes, yes, there are. There are many elements described by Plato that can be seen on the island. Of course, the first important thing is the presence of this major monastery, as I told Plato tsic about the acropolis. On the acropolis, Plato talks about the temple devoted to Pos eight on the King of the Sea. It gives us some measures.
He says that the temple of Oozidon was one hundred and eighty meters per ninety meters, and these are exactly the measurements that you can measure inside in the internal part of the acropolis. So there are walls that are rectangular and exactly these dimensions. Plato talks about a small island in which the king lived, which was five stadia diameter less than nine hundred meters, And in the island you can find the ruins of walls that are at
a distance of nine hundred meters from the cropolis. So the acropolis was in the center of a very small island, which was the King's island. Then a Plata talks about a giant island with these circular rings, which was fifty stadia in radios, which means eighteen kilometers in diameters, and you can measure exactly these dimensions. So there is circulear island, which is Solovatski Island, which has this structure and this symmetry.
Then Plato talks about also represents a giant plane which was five thousand stadia per three thousand stadia, which means nine hundred kilometers for five hundred kilometers. Most of the researchers up to now interpreted these evidence of the plane as a giant island. But studying very deeply the description of Plato, it is possible to understand that this plane
was in front of the island. It was not in the island, So the island was eighteen kilometers and in front of the island was a giant plane of nine hundred kilometers. This giant plane is a Karelian plane which is near Finland, between Finland and Solavski Island. So there are many elements, and of course the dimensions described a Plato that can be measured by everybody, so you can find many elements that are absolutely coherent with the description of Platum.
Now, one of the things that I found was very compelling, are actual ruins You actually show archaeological ruins of buildings and things, Yes, and have any of these. First of all, let me ask you this, how did you get it permission to go to Russia as an Italian? Because as most people can't go to that part of the world, how did you get in?
No? No, at that time. Actually, now maybe it is very difficult to go. I don't know if it is simple to enter in Russia. But at that time it was possible to visit Russia as a tourist. So my visa was just for tourism and just to visit the island. So this has been possible. Everybody can go, of course and visit it. Another important information is that Solovetski Island
was the first gulag of the history of Russia. So, for example, Alexander s Jenisin has been jailed in Solovetski Island and when he wrote Archipelago Gulag, he was talking about Slovatski. You can find in his book the same photos that I have done in my book, because it presents this island as an island in which it's very
difficult to leave and escape. So this is the reason why became the first jail of history of the Russian history, and according to me, was exactly the same reason why the kings of Atlantis decided to build this structure in the island, because it was very difficult to reach it in the middle of the White Sea. It is not so to arrive.
So tell us some of the characteristics of Slovsky Island. That is, I mean, you've given us a sense of it. Where for our listeners, where is it located geologically, geographically, geographically in other words, where do we give us some landmarks so we can get a sense of where it's located in the ocean.
Yes, you should look at the map of Europe. You just go to the north and arrive at the Finland latitude. Then you just go a little bit on the right you will find a Karelia plane and then the White Sea in the middle of the White Sea. Because nobody studies the White Sea because it is Russian and is
not European. So we talk about the giant continent Russia, but nobody knows that there is an important sea which is in connection with the Arctic Sea in the Barren Sea, in the north, so it is these island are not far from the polar circle. And this is very important in my study because I give an importance to the fact that those latitudes during the nights in the winter, all the all the stars just rotate all over the horizon,
so like an umbrella. So this should have fascinated our ancestors and maybe decided that that place was a holy place devoted to Atlas. The Atlas was the giant who sustained the whole heaven. So there are many elements in mythology that become maybe a real history in those places at those latitudes.
Okay, you given us a sense of the island according to Plato, with the concentric circles, the canals and the various landmarks. We're gonna take a short our show break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, Marco Boloney discussing his latest book, I Discovered the Real Atlantis. We'll be right back earth the Ancients to support and sponsoring the first International Congress of Forbidden History, and my guest today, Marco Boloni,
is one of the keynote speakers. His topic based on His research is called I Discovered the Real Atlantis. Tell us about the various destructions that are featured in Plato's and his work and how that relates to the island.
Yes, the destruction of Ireland is another controversial element that has been studied by researchers up to now, and most of the researchers have concluded that the highland was completely destroyed and was under the sea, so it was not possible to visit it and see it. For example, as many researchers decided that Atlas Atlantis was in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, but it was not possible to see.
Many decided that it was in the Mediterranean and so maybe it was Santorini that exploded with the volcano, so it is not possible to visit it. But Plato did not say this. Plato rights, in need a description of the island that the island went under the water, but then it appeared again, and Plato says that up today it is very difficult to navigate around the island. So this means that the island was still present and existed
when Plato wrote this history. Plato said that on the island, nobody was able to live on the island, but only bees and animals. So he talks about something which is evident and present. Plateau says that are still visible today the ruins of all the sanctuaries that have been built near the waters. So he talks about something which is visible, which is physically present, and it is not under the sea.
So according to my reconstruction and my idea, the island has been destroyed, but a giant tsunami, probably arriving from the Barren Sea, so the north the Arctic Sea entered in the canal that connects the Y Sea with the Barren Sea, and there's been a completely destroyed. So those who saw the island they exactly so that the island went under the water, but then the island was able to come up again, completely destroyed. And if you just
look at the Solovetski shores, they are completely destroyed. You cannot. It is very difficult to make a tour around the Solovetzki island. You have to take hours and hours because it is full of mens, so it is not very simple to Also, the island is full of marches. There are more than six hundred lakes, so this means that the island has been destroyed exactly as Plateau said, but it is still visible today.
Talk a little bit about the dating. Most people believe that the destruction of Atlantis was around nine five hundred BC, twelve years ago. Your dates are much more recent. Talk about those dates.
According to me, this has been another important mistake made by researchers before my studies, because when Plato talks about the destruction of the island that happened nine thousand years before he knew the story, we should understand that nine thousand years ago, let's say, or maybe before plato description, there were no metals, so there was no gold, there was no bronze, copper, tea, the human being was not able to use these elements. Plato talks about horses. Nine
thousand years before his description, nobody was able. No human being was able to use horses. And so there is a miss match between the nine thousand years described by Plato and all the other elements of his history. So my interpretation is that there has been a mistake when this story has been transferred from those who who visited the island, and so that the island was destroyed, then they talked to the Egyptians. Then the Egyptians presented this
history to the Plato ancestor. Then Plato studied and wrote the description of the destruction. There has been many persons and people that understood the different things, and so the nine thousand years actually must be considered nine thousand periods of time. If we considered periods of time, we can interpret the period of time as a lunar month and
not a solar ear. So if we consider lunar months, we can calculate the destruction of the island happened between the fourteenth and the thirteenth century before Christ and it was a very important period because in that period we registrate register the transition between the Bronze Age and the Iron Age, and Plato talks about the presence of bronze in Atlantis, but not about iron. So it is very important because this means that this period of time is
coherent with many other elementars of his descriptions. And it is not completely impossible. Let's say it is possible, probable, and so this must be proved of course.
Okay, Now there's a lot of speculation about the location of Atlantis. Charles Hapgood, in his Maps of Ancient Sea Kings, believes that the location of the island shifted during this geological event that was a catastrophe where asteroids came and destroyed not only Atlantis, but a lot of other locations and moved it from the Pacific to he believes itself it's Antarctica. Are you saying that the location of your Atlantis has always been there or did it change?
It was exactly in the same position that's been destroyed because it was made of grounded and so it was very simple to destroy Atlantis with a giant tsunami. But it never changed. So the position of the island was exactly the same.
Okay, let's talk about in chapter seven, you have the constructions of the island, and do we see the foundations of buildings and towers and things that are ancient they've just been built over? To talk about what we see? What do we see now?
Yes, in the book, I will present more than two hundred photos of the places, and in particular I present these all the structures or the buildings, all the houses may that have been built in the island have foundations that are made of giant rocks. And so, according to my opinion, the foundations are very old. They belong to the period of Atlantis, and they have been just used again in the last centuries in order to build houses.
So when you go around you see places that recall you ball back, for example, with rocks of tones and tones that, according to my opinion, cannot be used. The monks during the sixteenth century after Christ should have not been able to build a giant structure like this. It wasn't it is unusual. They were alone. They were just therefore praying the whole day. They were very a number of a few number of monks, So they should have
not done this effort. And this effort must have been done by some body who will considered this island very holy island for religious thinking, and so they have done an effort, enormous effort. But everybody can see and visit the place. For example, if you just connect yourself with the Google max On Solovetski and you see the voters that are you will be fascinated by the fact that these ruins are incredible.
Have any archaeological digs been done to the island or any studies from archaeological institutions.
Yes, I during my expeditions in the island, and I've made four expeditions In several years, I've done many interviews to archaeologists, not only on the island on Slovesti Island, but also in Saint Petersbush Saint Petersburg, because it was for me very important to understand what the archaeologists think
about this place and what they have found. The most important thing is that Russian archaeologists, archaeologists in the last thirty years of discoveries, have found something like fifty thousand archaeological findings, pieces of glass, of pottery and so on. They have found also tombs, but none of these fifty thousand elements were found in the middle of the island.
So in the place in which I consider the real Atlantis, with the circular rings of eighteen kilometers diameters, they found all the archaeology findings outside these and in the island near Solavatski Island. So this is, according to me, the most important information that I had from archaeologist, because it's the proof that ancient people were not able to not allowed to enter in the island, exactly as Plato said.
Plato said that Posidon created the island and make these circular rings in order to avoid everybody to enter in the Holy island. So this has been proved by archaeologists undirectly.
Let's say, okay, interesting, you describe what you say is the island of the king, and you have a chapter where you detail where the king of Atlantis lived in an acropolis with defensive walls, towers and doors. Where's that located.
Yes, this is locate not far, very very close to the most important and giant island of eighteen kilometers in diameter, and it is very near and it is exactly the place in which the major monastery was built by monks. Or let's say that history Russian history says that the monks built this giant monastery with six towers and the walls and the giant walls. Inside in the monastery there
are many churches. There are four different churches, and this is impressive because the churches as one connected to the other with enormous spaces. Inside the monastery there is a single room of five hundred square meters with a single column in the middle which for the roof. So let's imagine a few monks during the sixteenth century after Christ maybe there were twenty to thirty that built a room
of five one hundred square kilometers. It is absolutely incredible these situation and so according to my reconstruction, this was the place in which the ten kings of our plant is has a plateau sails and wrote meet each other every seven years, and they were able to reinforce their empire. And so it is a completely different story. It is not the history that up to now is the official history of Russian archaeologists. But many things should be understood and evaluated.
According to me, what what skeletal remains have we discovered, what artifacts have been discovered, if there's been some archaeological digs, and the other question I would have.
Is there a museum in that area? Talk about what they've discovered, because if you believe it's Plato Plato's fabulous Atlantis, the artifacts are going to be pretty sophisticated.
Oh, let's say, as what I've seen are not sophisticated archaeological finds. The Russian archaeologists are find, for example, boats made of skin, and they have reconstructed the boat and have confirmed the fact that the populations of three thousand years ago were able to leave the White Sea shores and reach the island very simply during one day. So this is very important because it is a proved that the island was inhabited by populations that were arriving from
the shores. These populations were just arriving during the summer, so the good weather, not during the winter. And so this is another important fact because as I told you, in the middle of the island, so in this enormous eighteen kilometers diameters circular island, they did not find anything. But only on the island near the Solovski Island they have found many potteries and they also recently they have found a very interesting archaeological tool, which was a very
small doll, the grandmother doll. Let's say, this means that this island was devoted to fertility, because somebody right there and left this doll that was made somewhere else. I have studied the findings of the in Sloveskia found in Slovestia island, and I have compared them with many other European cultures, trying to understand which were the people that were in contact. And I have found every decease in Austria,
for example, at the end of the Danube. So I decided I concluded that those people were able to pass from one place to another very quickly by using boats and by using the big rivers that are present in the Russian territory and the European tarrety. From the Duana, they were able to arrive in the Black Sea. From the Black Sea, they were able to go to the north using other big seas like the Niepre and and Volga, and so they were able to arrive also to the
White Sea. So they were people able to transfer themselves in very few times. Let's say they were not walking, but they were using boats. And this is an important evidence because the archaeological finders are exactly the same found in the same period of time in Europe.
Okay, I want you to talk a little bit more about the acropolis, because this is an important area that is equipped with you describe towers and gates that work with the sea. So how does that tell us a little bit more detail about the acropolis.
Yes, so today the acropolis, so the major monastery, is in connection with the whole rest of the island. But according to me, since the island has been destroyed by a giant tsunami, a lot of ground has been transferred and so actually now the island, the little island is not very simple to see, but we can reconstruct the place in which the small island was. There are towers that are enormous towers, more seventeen meters and larger more
than six at the basis. They are completely empty inside, and they are exactly the same towers that we can find in Sardinia, the Nuragi. So they have been built exactly with the same architecture. And maybe this is the proof that there was a link between Sardinia and between Atlantis. But Plato says this because Plato, when talks about the Empire of Atlantis, said that the empire was enormous and was extended from Asia until Libya and Tyrania. So Tyrania
is the sea in front of Sardinia. So according to me, Plato was right even when he was talking about the empire, there was a link between those who lived in Asia and those who were living in the middle of the Mediterranean. Up to now. You can see that the water enters in the major monastery, and there is a mill inside the major monastery, and the Plato talks about the fact that the kings of Tlenties were able to use baths inside the acropolis, so water was very abundant and still
now you can find this water. Regarding the gates, it is they are very original because it is the entrance of the monastery. There are big gates made of of stone that can just go down, shift down and close completely the entrance. And it is a structure which is very very original. It is a sort of mili right defense. So once more, it sounds to me very strange that some monks have made this building so sophisticated with this defensive structure.
We're going to pause for a break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, researcher, writer and investigator Marco Baloney, coming to us from Italy. Will be right back. My guess today is Marco Beloni. He is discussing his belief in a true Atlantis in a location known to us as Russia, and we're getting a sense of just what he's discovered.
You know, it's funny because when I think of what Plato wrote about Atlantis, I think of a technologically advanced culture with pyramids, with special types of armaments, with machines of some kind, and what you describe in this part of Russia seem very rudimentary. Is there anything that you would say is highly technical, very advanced that is remaining.
Look, look, Plateau talks about the army of the Atlantics Empire, and he talks about very simple arms. He doesn't talk about giant machines or sophisticated machines. They were just normal people and nothing is strange. What is strange is the fact that they have done structures of towers and the walls so enormous and so impressive that have been able to survive for three thousand years. So, according to me, the advantage of this population was the possibility and the
ability of built enormous giant structures for defensive reasons. So in this in this way, they were absolutely the first maybe advantage, and they had many advantages respect to other populations. So this is the advantage that I can measure looking at the acropolis. Now, Yeah, and you you blend the defenses of different annulal rings of water and then walls of ground and of rocks, then also again water, So they were able to use natural elements in order to
defense their cities and also the king. So this is very absolutely an advantage.
Yeah.
Uh.
The archipela is made up of little islands and land forms. You have a chapter called the concentric Circles. Talk about what you discovered which makes you think this is Atlantis with what is left of these concentric circles that Plato describes.
Yes, and during my study, as I told you, I have used the Naza data in order to reconstruct the island. So we have emphasized the dimension, the horizontal dimension of the data, and using this amplification of the territory, we have been able to find in the north west part of the island the possible existence of the annular rulings of water, of which platotalques. Of course, it is only a sort of undulation of the terrain. It is not very evident because now the island has modestis hundred lakes.
It is full of big trees higher than thirty meters, so it is full of marches. It's very difficult to explore the island. So it is I have been able to reach the highest point of the island in the middle of that which is a very low hill of eighty meters, from which it is possible to see the whole island alone. But I spent ten hours of with my legs and with a Russian guide in order to reach the center of the island. So for sure there was an annular structure, and for sure there was this
there were these concentric rings. And another important reconstruction that I've done is that Plateau talks about a giant wall that have been built all around the island at fifty stadia of distance from the center of the island, which is nine kilometers, And it is possible to see that one part of the island which was on the opposite side of the tsunami where the tsunami arrived, that part is exactly at nine kilometers from the center of lines.
So there are many elements that convinced me that there was a structure with annual rings in this island.
Okay, how do we know, I mean, this tsunami you keep talking about must have been a mile high or something huge. How do we know it was a tsunami? Is there evidence on the what is remaining of the island of tsunami?
Is no, There is no evidence from up to now from archaeological point of view. But I have found a geological map, and I found it in Romania. So I try to contact all the scientists that are able to study and visit the island, and Romanian geologists may send me a map in which it's possible to see that there is a difference of geological structures of the island, which is very Let's say the ground on the side of the tsunami is completely different from the ground on
the opposite side where the tsunami will like. So this means that the tsunami erased the island. And there are different stratifications that could be due to the tsunami. But we have two uh convalidate this study. This my hypothesis. This I need to take a geologist on the island and study this possibility.
It's interesting though, because you actually show in your book satellite images of the island and you compare it with early representations of Atlantis, and they looked pretty close. Yes, it's pretty amazing, pretty amazing. I want you to describe something. You call it what Plato didn't know. This is a chapter eleven and you you you talk about an immense labyrinth. Yes, where was the Where was the labyrinth?
So the Plato talks about a giant island made of circular rings, which were rings of water and off ground of eighteen kilometers. Then Plato talks about a giant canal that was connecting the center of the island with the sea,
which was nine kilometers long. And when I went to visit Solovetski Island for the first time, I was together with my daughter Alich, who at the age of fourteen, decided to come with me because she was afraid that I was not able to come back from Russian so she said, hey, I come with you because I want to help you come. So we were together visiting the island for the first time, and we arrived in a very small island near Solovetzi, which is called the Zayatsky Island.
On this Zayahsky island, there is a concentration of labylinths made of stones, so there are many circlear rings around a center, and they are very numerous, more than thirty labyrinths. Nobody understand why, because there are no labyrinths on solvate Ski Island, which is a giant island of more than two hundred kilometers, and there are thirty labyrinthes in this very small island, which is less than ten kilometers now, so when I saw these labyrinthes, I was fascinated. But
the biggest one. The two that are the biggest and also considered the oldest one because they entrance. The entrance of the libyrinth is exactly oriented as the canal Dolgaya Canal, which is the canal which makes a connection between the
sea and the center of the Solovetski Island. And so in the center of the labyrinth is a lot of there are a lot of tones stones representing a mountain in the middle, and so according to my interpretation, this was the representation of the island Atlantis when after its destruction.
What I think is that people were arriving on the island only during the good season, and when they arrived the season after the destruction, they found the island completely destroyed, and so they just represented the island as it was before. So they built these giant libraries in order to let us know how Atlantic Island was, and so this is
what the plateau did not know. So the connection between the single rings annual rings of land and water create a labyrinth, a structure which was very difficult to reach the center of the island. So it was much more difficult than single circular rings. It was a la labyrinth with clockwise and counterclockwise movements. But the labrary I tried to represent and fit the the image of Slovetski Island
with my reconstruction, and it fits very well. So there is a representation that seems to really a good representation. And another important thing is that in the middle of those labyries, Russian archaeologists found arrows that were all of three thousand years old, so they I think that these hours have been used during the first millennium before Christ, which is not far from the date that I consider,
which is the date of the destruction of Atlantis. So I think that also this element is very interesting and important and give support to my hypothesis.
The books called the Atlantis Labyrinth. My guest today has been Marco Boloni. He is going to be featured at the first International Congress of Forbidden History. It's going to be October eighteenth and nineteenth in Italy. For all the details and to learn more about this presentation that Marco will be presenting, go to Eighth continentgroup dot com and
you'll see the details as well as the presentation. As we conclude, Marco, has there been any writing that's been found, any kind of books or manuscripts, or courtsies or anything. I guess it's a sense of writing.
Yes, up to now we don't have this evidence. But all the Russian archaeologists send all their findings to Saint Peter books, and these are inside an enormous quantity of boxes in the underground of the museums, and so nobody knows what there is inside the box because they don't have time or money to study these findings. So we should maybe find some archaeologists and some interested in researchers and start to collaborate with Russians and try to understand what really happened on this island.
Have you spoken to any Russian archaeologists who feel similar to what you feel, that this is perhaps the fabled Lattice.
No, but I presented my hypothesis to an archaeologist and he is convinced that some parts of the island are artifacts, artificial parts. So there are huge constructions that seem not to be natural but built by humans, which is the problem. The problem is that the Russian history says that monks built everything in that place of the world, So even if we think that somebody have done something else, it
will be very difficult to prove it. And so we need a lot of courage in order to go on and find the real event of the situation and who built what. But I am sure that somebody is interested in my works and we would like to be more free to go on and continue our researches.
So if you were to go to that part of the world today, would you have free access as an Italian citizen or would you have to have special visa?
No, I will be free, as I think as any kind of Italian. Of course, I could not ask any kind of research archaeological research. I can only visit the place and make some photos and interview people, but I cannot study the situation. So what the big effort would be to organize an international research with different special and start to work with Russians. So this would be my dream. Let's say.
Yeah, fantastic Marco, thank you very much for presenting this material. This book is amazing. The Atlantis Labyrinth. What day are you speaking? Are you on the eighteenth or the nineteenth of October? Is your president?
Yes on the eighteen Yes?
Okay, fantastic, Well continued success on this book. For those of you listening, The book's going to be out in the middle of October and English, and Marco has assured me it will be available on Amazon. Is that correct? Yes, yes, correct, fantastic. Thank you Marco, appreciate it.
Thank you to your cliff and see you soon. Thank you, Bye bye.
I'm going to place a number of photographs from the book on the Facebook page because the book is not out until the fall. The Italian version is out. I have the copy of the Italian version, but some of the photographs are very intriguing. You know, you got to wonder if Atlantis was big enough as a continent and actually broke up. So many theorists believe that the Antarctica, which is a huge island continent, is the remains of Atlantis.
Charles Hapgood, I think Graham Hancock, I think John Anthony West. But what Marco has presented is another version of it. I mean, what he lays out is compelling. And one of my big criterias regarding like this Northern African settlement or geographic placement is that there's no ruins in this situation. Marco has evidence of ruins. He shows foundations, he shows partial towers, there's a lot of things. A question, you know.
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