Jim Vieira: Edgar Cayce's Giants

And it's funny because the first layer allows for animals and for the goods, and there's a couple of kitchens in there. But you keep going down further and further one hundred feet, two hundred feet, three hundred feet, and oh my god, it is not only is it claustrophobic, and I found myself a little nervous, but there is just strangeness carved in the bedrock. It's completely carved, it's not partially carved. It's every room, every corridor, every shaft.

There's waterways that go down. How they dealt with sewage is beyond me. We were told that it would be brought up human and animal sewage would be brought up through ventilation shafts, which is kind of weird. And the ventilation shafts are strange. I have a photograph of one of the surface ventilation shafts that are somewhat protected from the elements, and they go all the way to the bottom four hundred plus feet to the very bottom of

this of this city, of this apartment complex. And I have to say, I do have a little bit of claustrophobia. And when I was down in this thing and we were, you know, passing through layers and layers and going further down, further down, it's a little disconcerting. It really is. It really is nerve wracking. But somebody engineered the ventilation system so that fresh, cool air passes to the lowest regions

of this city. And this is a piece of genius because one of the big issues that I have discovered in a number of other people mentioned is that when you go into an enclosure like the Great Pyramid at Giza, there's no air, there's no air ventilation. When you go to the king's chamber, when you go to the queen's chamber, when you're walking in the Grand Gallery, up the stairs into these other chambers. They have no air and it

just shuts your system down. You have to force your way into these other areas simply because it is hot, it's humid, and the ale the air is stagnant. It's stagnant, and so the body's natural recourse is to panic, which is claustrophobia. You want to get the hell out of there. This is why a lot of people go into the Great Pyramid and they're like, what the hell is this all about?

are cramped in there. There's no light whatsoever. There is candlelight, and that's it. We had large areas. They even had a church. They had carved in the second and third level where people can meet and congregate, and you know how they did this, why they did this. We still don't know how they survived decades down there.

for me, this is a big issue. I don't I wouldn't say I have claustrophobia, but I don't like tight, tight spaces for hundreds of yards, crawling down hundreds of yards, which is what happens when you're in the Red Pyramid or the Bent Pyramid, or you're going down the subterranean shaft of the Great Pyramid. That thing collapses and you're you know, it's one hundred plus one hundred and twenty yards.

It's easy to get claustrophobia because you're not getting air, You're breathing stale air and you have to just force your way down. But the darren Kuru is fascinating.

the place. So hard to say, but it is fascinating. Again, Go to Facebook or to Earth Ages, either International or the group page.

I think we definitely want to go earlier, perhaps late spring rather than summertime, because the average temperature was like one oh two, and that's just not good. It doesn't it just it's exhausting, it really is. So check that out. Today's program is Edgar Casey's Giants, and we're looking at

some of the hominins that Edgar Casey talks about. Now, remember we've talked about the Akashak Records a number of different programs, and Edgar Casey was the master observer of ancient Earth through the Akashak Records, and he speaks on the early hominins, the early hybrids that were created on Earth, and how the energetics of the soul passed through, and we're testing these bodies, these hominins, and through a period of time. Eventually we're stuck in these bodies.

giants in ancient Egypt, Sumeria. We see evidence of them in South America. How did they migrate? Where did they migrate from? Why don't we see giants today? There's a lot of questions about the evidence of giants in North America, most notably present day United States. We're gonna learn more about these mound builders, who were many of them were a race of giants eight feet to twelve feet some

places fourteen feet tall. That's a big human being. So let's talk about today the Kashik Records Edgar Casey, which is always a great fascination, and early hominins and where did the Giants Go? So today's program is Edgar Casey's Giants, and my guest is author Jim Vieira. We're featuring an incredible opportunity to visit one of the real enigmas of the ancient world, and that is Easter Island in the Pacific Ocean. This is a new tour that we're doing.

It looks like this will probably be the only chance we get to go because it's very challenging.

a History channel, He's on television quite regularly. He's all over the place. But one of the reasons I'm bringing Jim back is that he has done a deep dive and actually done significant research on Edgar Casey. And we've talked about Edgar Casey in the past. One of the unique aspects of Casey is that when he would do a reading, not only would he describe the individual he is working with, he would present the background and the

details of that lifetime in great clarity. And what Jim has done is he's done some research and continues to do research on some of the early hominins, and we're going to speak with him today about giants and maybe perhaps some lineage of the giants throughout Earth's history. So, Hey, Jim, great to see you. Welcome back to Earth Agents.

Casey's material. And I find that a lot of people are interested in ancient mysteries, but they're also as a gateway drug to get into metaphysics and spirituality to really figure out, you know, what are we doing in time and space? What is my eternal nature? Things like that. So Casey is great because he got some things wrong.

He made predictions about the future that didn't come true right, But he also has an astonishing track record of things he should have never known about that that were posthumously revealed, like in the Dead Sea Scrolls. A couple of years after he died, he said the Nile flowed backwards, and NASA proved that as well. So it's a great way

to view the past in an objective fashion. And I've always been drawn to Casey because he's it's as simple as it rings true and my intuition tells me there's a story here, and you want to I want to study the Casey material to see where it points and then evaluate if he was correct or not.

And this other realm, this repository of historical documentation that other mystics like Rudolph Steiner talked about. So Casey at first, when these messages and statements would come through the channel that he was, he was very disconcerted because it taught the source talked about reincarnation, lots of you know, past lives, Jesus having a different makeup, Jesus more like an Eastern mystic and a wisdom teacher than the wrath and the fire and the brimstone you get out of what the

evangelical wing. So he was very destroyed by what came through, but he ended up embracing it and just let the channel work because a lot of what he did was he became the godfather or the father of holistic medicine, and he hailed so many people with alternative means. He's like, this is a benevolent source, and let's see what he has to say about ancient mysteries as well.

talk about tapping into this universal library as well. And what it points out is the holographic nature of reality because past, future, present are all happening in one present state and everything is an emanation from the one. So you that's why psychics work sometimes, and that's why you have strange phenomena that seems to be doesn't work in the cartoon model, because, like Michael Talbot wrote about, in the holographic universe, it's all one eternal now that is

misperceived as past and future. That's why past lives people have memories of different lifetimes and stuff.

And in the case of Casey, if someone was coming to him and said, look, I have a degenerate disease, I have a problem, he was able to tap into a lifetime that maybe was influencing and causing the problems. Talk a little bit more about the Hakashik records and what Casey did to actually open this person's lifetime to see it so clearly, I mean, no one else is as phenomenally available as he was.

So Casey was one of those beings who was who was of a very high order, and his life shows that he was thoughtful, he was kind, he worked tirelessly. He was a servant of humanity like Tesla.

ill will towards. And through Casey's lens and other mystics, it's like in other lifetimes you had experiences that weren't forgiven, where you help grudges, or you were the bad guy everybody thinks they're freaking Cleopatra, or you know some you know, great Samarian God, but you know you have some other lifetimes too, where you're on the wrong side of history. So Casey would describe many holistic remedies, but also a

way of thinking about existence. If there's only one holographic reality, then you forgive, not because you're so good, because you're tying yourself to your own machinations, of your own temporary and strange movie character. Right, you're no longer on the hook for all the strange and embarrassing things that we've all done. When you forgive, you forgive yourself for making poor choices, and you forgive the other, and you break the cycle of a lack of forgiveness, of judgment, of criticism,

of cruelty. And so Casey would prescribe basically, you know, a metaphysical system of forgiveness and thoughtfulness and service to others. So I like that because he what he has to say matches with a lot of the enlightened teachers that I study as well.

But I guess I'm talking about Yeah that I know what you're getting at, But it's the general orientation that he gave, like this is kind of the predicament we find ourselves in, right, and this is a way out like you had talked about earlier before we went on, Like what in case you have to say about humanity? He basically said that we are spiritual beings who fell deep into matter and got stuck here with video game

characters that we misperceived are all we are. So we're like lost in the matrix when we are the screen of existence, like roomy, beyond concepts of good and evil, there is a failed I will meet you there, like that's what you really are. But we're playing these bizarre movie characters and we firmly believe that's all we are. So he said that the five races, it was like white, black, yellow, red, brown,

were projected in different parts of the planet. And that's why you have these different groups of people with different pasts, if you will, and which is interesting. And I will say this, there's a lot of like talk about racism and at as. You know, like all the heat that Graham Hancock has to put up with. It's like, no, let's go to Egypt, for example. You're there and spare

it with your background. Like we told with Usef following right, his father was the great wisdom keeper Hakimau woman, and he talked about No, No, the Egyptian people themselves said that there was an earlier age of the gods and the Assyrian the Great Giza Plateau. Were they built at that time? Were they guided by these gods? And then you know, a skeptic, a pseudo skeptic, will say, uh, you think the Aliens built the pyramids. It's like I

talked to Jojo about this. It's like no, it's we're saying that all these cultures say that the gods assisted them, who were these strange beings, which you know, you talk about amphibious and drugs and his gods a lot. So the idea of you know, oh, it's racist and you're trying to take these achievements away from Indigenous people, it's like, not at all. We're actually listening to indigenous wisdom and

trying to figure out the past through that lens. So you might say it's a little overtly racist to ignore that like academics do. And then I will say, Casey said that the first red race to land in the US was the Aroquois twelve thousand years ago. Now that's not saying Nazi superman came and build all this stuff.

He's saying that it's like, you know, indigenous Native people are tied to this lost continent, and you know, I just want to put that out there because I deal with a lot of pseudo skepticism and debunkers and gate kiders who keep throwing out that racist trope, and I'm like, of course, neo Nazis and use all kinds of shit like genetics, and they're always trying to prove some crazy, you know, master race theory and whatever I'm not going

to change their mind. Ye, but a lot of the people in this these endeavors are not like are not oriented like that, you know, Greg Little, Andrew Collins, Brahm, Hancock, Shock, They're not like that at all. They're they're like objective, open minded, and they believe in indigenous rights. So I'll just throw that out there.

He says it like humans descending into matter. Others say it was an extraterrestrial race, which is interesting because they have all the attributes if you look at the nature of the gods, and that's where Plato was pointing back to Zeus and all the gods in Mount Olympus was in the middle of the Atlantic. But anyways, you know, Casey talks about Lomuria being settled about ten million years

ago basically by these beings who were ephemeral. They were spirit beings, and they were very unsophisticated in a worldly sense, and they got more and more trapped into matter. And I think his date of cataclysm and destruction was fifty thousand BC for Loamuria and Atlantis. His timeline was the founding was like two hundred and ten thousand BC, and there were three catachorism fifty thousand BC, twenty eight thousand BC, and then the final the Young Edrias events twelve nine hundred BC.

race of strange genetic masters. Casey says in one hundred and five thousand BC, Amelius, who was an incarnation of Jesus, was a genetic engineer, and he as androgynists. So I do this comparative analysis I read, you know, I have no social life. So it's three in the morning and I'm reading like the Sumerian texts and the popol Vu and everything I get my freaking hands on for like forty years now. I'm obsessed, you know, without hopefully being

objective as well. But the gods have talked about in so many of these in this historical literature, you know, Ugarritic text from Syria. All these really arcane sources are talking about the first siancesses being androgynists and the gods being androgynists, and Casey's all over that story. He's talking about androgeny. It's just remarkable. Every ancient mystery that I study, Casey has all this input that lines up with all

these other sources. Now here's a guy with an eighth grade education and he's talking about androgen He's talking about polydactylism, he's talking about giants and mound builders. He has sixty eight readings on the American mom Builders. And when we were in school, we didn't even hear about the mom Builders, right.

know this, and I thought it was smart. So Casey has an amazing repertoire of knowledge about all these ancient mysteries and the twenties and the thirties, and the dude had like an eighth grade education, and he's remarkably accurate and lines up with what a lot of academics say as far as like what indigenous people say about the past, The nature of Vericocha Vericocha emerges from like Titty Kaka.

He's married to his sister, Mama Cocha. There are shrines all around like Tittycaka that existed where she's a fishtailed goddess like these other androgynists, amphibious gods found around the planet. So to me, it's like it begs further investigation.

He talks about the sons and daughters of Light and the sons and daughters of darkness in this war, and that there was genetic engineering of creatures that he called things that were like beasts of burden, excuse me, and that they were the like basically the workforce for these gods,

for the negatively oriented gods. And he says they would when the Atlanteans landed in Egypt, like twelve thousand years ago, they set up there was two temples, the Temple of Sacrifice and the Temple Beautiful, where they would take these creatures like you see all the walls and the Sumerian temples, like these hybrid chimera like creatures and hail them in

different ways using this kind of lost technology. So he gets into this whole story of these negatively oriented genetic engineers that created I don't know if giants came of that he didn't elaborate, or if they were just you know, this is the thing that science hates the idea of giants because it doesn't line up with evolution, right, And I'm not anti evolution. I would say you can see it in nature, you could predict evolution, but as far

as humans are concerned, it's a different ballgame. There's a lot in there that, like Darwin never really proved it. He was basically trying to squeeze the round what is it the square peg in the round hole when evolution came to humans, Because what all the traditions state and what Casey states that is the genetic engineers, who I would say, are these androgenous, amphibious gods they made the giants. They were a miscreation, most of them that were malevolent

and just were destroyed, mostly in a cataclysm. Some survived, as we know through the Bible. But they also created the first humans as well, and we were first created androgynous. Yahweh creates Adam androgynists in the first genesis. Then they create male and female the pople Vu Kuko Khan Gooku mats He creates the first humans androgynists. The Navajo traditions, we are created androgynis and then we basically are a

match for the gods and they don't like that. And as Plato shows, as Aristophanes displays the myth of the ancient androgen Zeus, the androgenost god cuts us in half. So we run around like losers, look at for other you know, the female or male half our whole lives, but we're dumb down. Smoke is blown into our eyes. Babylon falls and they scatter the languages. These engineers are effing with us and rolling humanity. So have you ever had Paul Anthony Wallace on He's scheduled this fall awesome

the Eden books totally. So him and I have interacted and he has drawn the same conclusion. He's he was a former archdeacon in the Anglican Church for thirty two years and then he came around to have this different version of the Bible and what the stories that it's telling. He's extremely eloquent and intelligent, and you'll you'll love interviewing him.

I say that because he's really opened up in a scholarly way the story that I've been chasing for a couple of decades and now stunting to write about about

the ancient engineers. So to wrap it all up, these are these When you get into natural evolution, it's like, yeah, the giants don't fit there, because if they're real, if this story is true, it's the gods and the engineers who created the giants and destroy them as well, and they created Homo sapiens because I'll quickly say, I don't want to get along with it, but we are a strange creature. It seems like we're a byproduct of like an aquatic and a horminade or something. I know, sitch

and talk someone about that. You know. It's like you want to spend a month, you know, and the h and I'll ask a wilderness. You know, we're not made. You get sunburned, and like humans seem out of place. I'll just say that. And with bizarre creatures, with all these neurological and psychological hang ups as well, it's just just saying, man.

on planet Earth. Hey, our mutual friend Andrew Collins writes a great deal about the Inficens. He believes that they were primarily teachers at places like go Beckley, Teppe, that they're found throughout Europe and perhaps their offspring are some of the mound builders. Do you get a sense that Casey presents giants and can we trace them to the dignificence in a historical reference?

to Max Plank. It gets sequenced and it's revealed that it's this human cousin who went to bread with humans and weed and talked about when they start finding bones

of disease events, they're probably going to be massive. And a couple of years ago a skull showed up in twenty eighteen at the University of Beijing a Chinese farmer found this massive skull, hit it down a well in the thirties when the Japanese were coming in, so they wouldn't like take it sent On his death, bet he told his grandson take it to the scientists at the

University of Beijing, see what the hell this is. So it's this massive harmined skull and it's They said it's homolongee like a new species, but we believe it's firmly a Denisovan skull, and Chris Stringer noted an anthropologists. He said, it's the largest Homo skull he's ever seen. So you got a massive ancient skull associated with the denise Evians. We don't have any of the long bones yet, so if we get.

It's educating guesses about the past. So you know, we try to take in all this information and you know, I would say for me, for Hugh Newman, for others, it's like we approach it like I like to think, like an academic wood with like a rigorous dive into these subjects. But we're open to oral traditions as well. We're open to mystic sources to point a different direction. And the Denise Evans pose a mystery. Are they a

philed genetic experiment? Like you talked about chro Magnon. There are some who believe that chro Magnon, who are unusually tall and very sophisticated, showed up in Europe like thirty thousand years ago, right, And they're associated with the Magdalena cultures and the Salutarian sometimes, and they might be an Atlantean race that showed up after a catachalism. But they you know, when you talk about levels of sophistication they presented those in their cave are and their tool making.

That doesn't mean, you know, they have toast Rovens. It means that, you know, we have a spiritual technology at work here. So I'll just say that Casey talked about giants. He has many readings where he called the mound builders. He said they the original mound builders, came up from

Mesoamerica and blended with Native cultures. Those are the tall ones, the beings found in the mounds by the Smithsonian's agents and others, the wisdom keepers, positively oriented wisdom keepers who were exceptionally tall, and he said they are of a race that was much taller than the people of the time. So that's why archaeologists will study the bones of many Native American tribes and say, yeah, they were a little

bigger than Europeans, but they weren't giant sized. These giants that elongated their skulls that don dragoul webon snow anthropologists and the fifties found their bones very robust, massive jaw bones over seven foot tall. That's a different thing that's going on through the lens of the Casey readings and through the lens of oral traditions of Native Americans as well.

genetically engineered. You've been to Egypt on the walls of so many temples, you have these composite creatures, and what are they up in meso America? There are they a function of genetic engineering. It's a very simple premise. It's like the dogon people say in Mali Africa, one of the oldest oral traditions on the planet. They say that these androgynous, amphibious gods, they're all brother and sister, husband and wife, twins, self fertilizing, they show up, they create humanity,

their genetic engineers. And that's a story found around the world. So the only question is do you believe it or not. You know, it's not these cultures that have no contact, they're saying the same thing. It's very bizarre, it's very specific. The universe is filled with life. I bet there's stories all throughout history. And even Carl Sagan says this is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis, the idea that these Apkalu and the Samarian gods appear to be the best case for

extraterrestrial intervention. He says that in his book in the sixties, and he talks about it being a perfectly reasonable hypothesis that deserves further investigation. So I go with there's not a lot of Sagans left in the scientific world. There's a lot of flint dibbles and hoops from Kentucky, I mean from Kansas. I don't want to like take a run at anyone, but they're not like when you're an archaeologist, it's like you're a cop, right.

is nothing contemporaneous with twelve thousand year old date. No one beholds that hash Tepla region. I know you've been there, go backley Tepe. What emerges is a super civilization of megalith builders. And then the a team of scientists highlights the cataclysm, the younger dries impact events that Hancock talked about as well. And you could say, I don't believe that Gunana Padang and Indonesia is that old. I don't

think you Yanaguni is this and that. That's fine, but to like insult him, like he's a pseudo scientist and a super archaeologist. It's completely unfounded. Yeah, Like that's why people they read that as a contry, as a conspiracy, because they're like these gatekeepers, these pseudo skeptics, they're not reviewing objectively these things that we present. They're in fact insulting us. And I work with a lot of professionals and that are very cool, and you do too, I

know that. So it's like, hey, Flint Dibble, you're losing the audience here. You're being at dank, you're being in know it all, and you're smacking of like this lead, this vibe of insulting people who are interested in you, faeled So. But when you're in an echo chamber, I'm sure his feed is filled with, you know, just these echo chamber ideas that. And when you're intelligent like that and you have PhDs and stuff, you believe your own

press a lot more than a layperson too. So I'm just pointing out these dynamics because people are talking conspiracy all the time, Like there's plenty of conspiracies, but a world of archaeologists isn't covering up evidence. But the gatekeepers and the pseudo skeptics are definitely in the business of denigrating others who present these these alternative theories.

but he doesn't give that. You know, I wish you would reincarnate again so I could ask them a bunch of questions, because yeah, holes in the timeline, and I know what you're getting at. But what I'll say is like yahweh in the Bible, just like Vericoca in Peru, they create a race of giants and they destroy most of them in a cataclysm, but some survive and the refi em have extra digits. The giant of Gath has six fingers and six toes, and in fact, I'm writing

a book about that phenomena around the world. Extra digits, Now, what does this have to do with It's a rare genetic condition polydactylely, it's called some humans have extra digits, but it's not associated with gigantism. So you find it all around the world, isolated Pacific islands, giant hands and feet carved by indigenous people. In fact, Professor Paltz hasan A couple of years ago, you probably saw the article the oldest narrative in the world was found in the

Australian Outbank. Right excuse man.

feet with six toes. And then you go to Botswana, Matt saying, the place of emergence for the San people very important. Matt Singh shows up and he has six toes and he's giant, and they're impressed. Right there, I'm not saying he walked on the you know, into the granted two hundred million years ago. I'm just saying there are footprints, giant footprints. And then the oldest seas on Earth, Ian Ghazal, Jericho, Jordan, Yeah, I know, Ian Gazal and Jordan,

and go Beckley Tepe, Carahuan Teppe. They display polydactylism. Right you've been to Carahan Teppe. You have the pillar with sixteen digits and then you have the oldest narrative found in the world as well, Uh, the little dude in the middle, and it was recently found. There are two figures on that panel.

won the lands. He had been to the site. We wanted to hire a contract archaeology team to excavate Kirahan Tepe, and in the script what we wanted to find was extra digited beings, double headed idols that show the androgynist gods that are written about in academic papers from Allen Gazelle, Katala, Hayuk and all these other ancient places in Turkey. And then the Turkish government beat us to the punch. They excavated and what did they find. They find this statue

with sixteen digits. They found the double headed idol that was written about and talked about in the academic circles, representing either the first androgenist humans or the androgenist gods. So that's pretty cool, and that shows me intuitively, I believe I'm on the right path. You know, I'm no Edgar Casey, but my intuition is like, there's something here, there's a story here, and the thing that had been studying for freaking thirty years now is showing up at

the oldest sites in real time on Earth. It's quite remarkable for me, and I hate testimonials, but this is like a rail in time discovery. So what does extra digits mean? Were we androgynenists? Did engineers create humans? Those are legitimate questions, and if somebody doesn't buy it, that's fine. You know, if somebody wants to insult they can f off at the same time. You know, it's like, these

are the traditions of ancient peoples. Let's give them their run and let's see if they have something to do with reality.

But yeah, it behaves in different ways as if it's like a soul trapped in a in a different body, uh, in a in a huge ape like body. And you know Casey talks about the creation of these beings as bes of burden. You know, ahib do you.

I get that. But it's a phenomenon and I think in demand's hypothesis, and I think that's as good as any if you're because like to me that what one of the big draws is like every Native you can't believe. I've encountered so many Native elders, a Mohawk elder a couple of weeks ago, and it's like, oh yeah, my grandfather, he'd never stopped talking about the giants. You got a cliff a friend, Clifford Mahoudi, the late Zuni elder, who I spent a lot of time with. It's like giants,

extra digits. We were talking androj and as gods of the Zuni people, just like everywhere else. It's just amazing. He talked about themia. These same themes come from the Hopi and the Zuni, and the Apache and the Navajo. And I'm here on the East coast. It's like Mohawk. All the different tribes here tell the same story. So they're talking about these creatures like Bigfoot, they're talking about giants, they're talking about little people, and they match with the

traditions of isolated groups all around the planet. Is that you know what I mean? Just like that alone, it's like I don't have a time machine. I don't know what the hell is going on. I can only glean from all these sources. But can you really be a coincidence that there's no evidence, I mean, there's no story here. That seems illogical, that seems like bad science. And the thing is it has to be forced through the lens of evolutionary theory. Yeah, so when that happens. It all

polls apart. It's like little people, you know, I get, I can get the hobbits, but I'm not getting down with like, you know, these little people from Ireland or the native tribes out in the west, that bighorn medicine whale.

I'm not getting down with giants, especially because there's a cultural war happening where the academic world it's kind of a left wing atheistic cults and you have like a religious side that's more evangelical and they have their own I would say shortcomings where they believe without objectivity, but you have like the view of the academic world. These

ideas are are anti evolutionary, anti science, racist oftentimes. So that's where we find ourselves is being thrown into this mix where you know, I don't have a SS tattoo on my neck. I like to think of myself as moderate and reasonable. I'm not trying to prove some you know, Nazi superman theory. The point is that you have a dynamic that precludes objective investigation of oil traditions and other ancient documents that I think is a misstep.

So is that part of the story, like there was a cataclysm change if you get into the work of like the Thunderbolt Society David Talbot, I believe like Saturn had a different place in the sky, right, it was a golden age that was disrupted by a cataclysm. Could that you know? Could a lot of what we're talking about and pointing to is in the late Pleistocene there were more giant beings that got destroyed, and then you have these bloodlines that existed and continued. Ross Hamilton talks

about that he's the godfather of giantology. And to your point is like there's two stories here. There's one of the wisdom Keepers, the seven and the eight foot tall native people who show up and teach the arts of civilization. They show up in the British Isles. And then there's a story of giants who are malevolent that Vericocua destroys,

that Yahweh destroys, where the ancient wars. There are codices the one in the Vatican that you've seen around the internet where there these toll tech indigenous people killing this probably like twelve foot giant, and there are legends of that where they're cannibalistic and they're unruly. And when you know, I sit down, I talk to a lot of Native people and I just find, you know, not to diss our culture, but there's a lot more integrity there. There's

no like grifting awareness. There's like these traditions are important to this, to us, and this is exactly what has been said for generations. And they all say like, oh yeah, could be the late place to see. Twelve thousand years ago, our ancestors encountered giant beings. They were a holes, They like attacked our tribes, they were cannibalistic. I didn't make

this shit up, you know what I mean. It's just like I get all this heat like a giant guy, and I'm like, I'm just and like, can if could you indulge me for a second after you've indulged me this entire time? I know, I want to say that we did a show about giants, and the complete the thrust of it was that the Smithsonian says that the largest skeleton they have in their collection is a six

six foot three Soue Native American with acromegali. Right. So, in episode two, we go to Stalleville, Missouri, excuse me, Huckett's Cave, right, nineteen thirty three front page of the Saint Louis Dispatch. They find an over eight foot skeleton there. We found the location, Billy Harmon found it. We did all the due diligence. We in fact found an image in the microfilm that was on the front page of

the Staleville Ledger and the Saint Louis Dispatch. They show six and a half foot less eaten lay next to this like eight and a half foot tall skeleton. And then we find an article that says it was shipped to the Smithsonian after being wired together by university and Missouri archaeologists. Right, So they received that they were they asked for it. They specifically asked to have the skeleton

said to them. So I'm not saying, you know, maybe there was a conspiracy and maybe they destroyed the bones. Maybe there's a freaking vault of giants. I don't know. I'm just saying we came in at it. With that approach, we was success. Oh you didn't find anything like I'm gonna find a like an eight foot skeleton live film and go dig up like a native mom.

who's obsessed with this. But I am not dogmatic. I'm not really just yeah, you know, so I just want to throw that out there.

these giant bones. But before we go there, I had a guy on the program who wrote a book called Expanding Earth, and his belief was that Earth was closer to the Sun in different phases, and this is where the dinosaurs were able to grow at such a huge size because the gravity level of Earth was much less, and so these land animals and reptiles were a megaton monsters.

We see the skeletal remains of Trantosaurus rex. We see these huge reptiles that weigh a huge amount of a tonnage, and the thinking is that if there were humans, they would have been giants around that time. This is millions of years ago, obviously, but through some cataclysmic event in space, Earth was bumped or was pushed away two separate times. And this guy believed, he's an engineer, that the mankind has changed physically and physiologically over a period of time.

globe and the earth flood. You know, you can clearly see that there's a story of cataclysm there. And he was like derided and censored and now find the ruined career ruins right, it's like, you know, grow up, it's like you don't believe in that's five. But that is see that reads this conspiracy once again. So you you're like, you look at the past and it's completely different. And I guarantee you there were celestial changes, there were cataclysms.

There are you know, you go up in the Andes and you find seashells and you're like, you know, was there just a massive cataclysm? You know where where mountains are you know come up overnight? Is the Grand Canyon and the Great Lakes where they just formed into cataclysm in a quicker amount of time than we think, you know, just quite you know, Great Salt Lake. Where did that come from? There are all legitimate questions, and I deal with open minded geology all the time. We say that,

So I think that makes sense. There was more oxygen in the air, there was different orientation. Yeah, that's a very sensible hypothesis for a very controversial topic as far as.

encountered enormous native peoples. And this once again the academic idea is that, yeah, you know, the natives are probably like five a five ten, and they were much taller versus the five two five for three Spanish and English. It's like, that's not what they're talking about on his knees, this giant towered overall of people. You know, these are these are explorers trained in the outer observation, the chronicles of writing it down. It's the absolutely and you go

to Patagonia and we have this in our book. Francis Cook. I think that was Frederick Cook. In the eighteen nineties he met with the Owner tribe in Patagonia and they were absolutely enormous. The entire tribe. There's pitches. We have six ft six women of that a massive bone structure, seven to seven six males. They wear like animal skins and they get the voice of bulls and their traditions.

They came from a continent in the Atlantic and the Pacific that sank, and that's where their ancestors came from, and they were wiped out by the English. They were all killed in these genocidal wars that happened. To your point, a lot of the tall ones, a lot of these indigenous people that quite possibly were much taller than normal de humans, were you know, eradicated you, along with so many native people of disease and warfare and stuff like that. Yeah.

So I think when you're talking about if twelve and fifteen foot giants were in fact rail, they existed in a different age quite possibly, you know, back tens of thousands of years. I don't know, but there's a lot of evidence there was seven, eight, and even nine foot tall individuals that didn't have disease conditions that existed right up until the modern age.

come around like there's a holes everywhere. It's just like politics. You know, people were in bed in this position right and they are the cult like thinking. It's like the two party system blows by the way. We should have like five parties. I kind of like RFK Junior for instance. You know we were we grew up. It was like a shrine in the Kennedys where I grew up in Boston, my MLK Bobby and John. But now you know, the Democratic Party sucks, the Republican Party sucks. You know, it's

like they're just corrupt. They don't represent people who want to like help humanity, people who want to be thoughtful, and people who want to better world. They're just like whatever, I don't want to get a long with what I'm trying to say is like, in these debates about ancient mysteries,

realize when you're in an echo chamber. Realize when you're part of the true believers, or you're part of a kind of an atheistic academic cult as well, because you know, the thing about a cult is you don't think you're in when when you're you're in one. That's my rant.

about casey and and and different, yeah, controversial topics. And he wrote this mom builder encyclopedia, which is brilliant and I've used it in a lot of my travels and it begs the question. There was absolutely there were so many accounts. Uh, it's mind numbing. It's like, can these all be hoaxes? They're buried obscurely in these voluminous texts. They're certainly not all headline grabbing.

mystery here, and I think it's just worth thinking. You know, science should be thinking about different things differently, like your boy you were talking about with a different theory of the past. Maybe the celestial bodies moved in different ways. Maybe the indigenous people are right, and we were genetically engineered almost sapiens were you know, you know, you get the you got canoe, the androdynis ram headed guard and he's cooking up humans on a freaking potter's whale on

the temple of Zna. Is that in Prometheus does the same thing with Epithemius as twin brother. Those are just ephemeral missing legends or the age you know, is the age of the gods rail because They're all described in the same fashion, with multiple ways of specificity across cultures that had little no contacts. I know, I'm a freaking broken record, but that is like, wow, holy shit, that rings true, or it is something worthy of further investigation, like my boy Carl Sagan once said, too.

That's another thing. That's another kind of difficulty because there's a lot of bullshit artists and grifters and the alternative realm, right, because it just is, you know, we're gonna name anyone, but and there's well intentioned people who you know, they they kind of want to believe, you know, they want to. I don't want to admit I was wrong about this. I got a crowd of loyal follows that I can throw content to.

I can't take care of my basic needs. We all got strengths and weaknesses, right, And for me, I studied with an enlightened spiritual teacher, and I've studied, I've done a million Eyahuashka ceremonies and hung out with wisdom keepers. And the takeaway is from all the enlightened masses road human history is that you are exists as a perfect field. Nothing you do in time and space can add a

subtract to that kind of blissful divinity. And in fact, the universe of time and space is a false, temporary projection from the field, a thought experiment like prodigal sons and daughters, Like what the hell would it be like to create on our own? It's actually pretty shitty experiment if you look around. But that's the way it's portrayed

by the spiritual masters. So like if anybody's listening is into like spirituality, it's like read Maharshi Raman of Maharshi, read out to read the Gnostic Gospels of Jesus, read the Apocryphon of John, where Jesus talks about the one like he's an Eastern mystic, and they're all saying the same thing, like take a deep breath, don't get carried away, because our happiness is contingent sometimes on the externalities, the state of the world. I got money in my bank account,

I lost my job. It's like chill out. View this trans personally. My teacher would say, you got many lifetimes. It's like forgive release, don't be a victim of the world because you know the idiot who cooked it up in the first place, and that's how to stomach I get that, but you know, to the lodge of point. I always like to end on a metaphysical note. It's

just like everything's cool. Just meditate and breathe, try to be helped, will try to forgive, and then you'll start to feel less judgment and less irritation, less anxiety, and then these ideas will come. Then other lifetimes will probably start coming to you where you don't have a vested interest. They just come because you're not putting a false reality ahead of your divinity.

in the Middle Ages. You're not, you know, creating more comma in another lifetime because it's a holographic reality. That's what the mystics would say. So how do you do it? It doesn't have to be like, oh, I was the temple priest and I was writing this. It can be as simple as like, oh, my son and I have had some problems lately. You know, I'm going to forgive that I see a political figure that it drives me nuts on the TV. I'm going to forgive that. It

sounds like some New Age bullshit, but it isn't. It's like forgiveness is where it's at. It's not like, oh I'm so good, Oh my heart hurts, and it's like, no, you forgive because your natural state is not a lunatic or a sociopath that is embedded in all this addiction to outrage. That's why social media blows and it's the lowest level of hell. It's because the algorithms addict you to outrage. The weaponize your preference. Forgive, do some push ups,

go outside. You know what I'm saying, buy my book, listen to you. So the moral of the story is don't take it so seriously, and it is not a cop out. I'll end on this if you don't mind people like they reiterate this line, like when good men

and women do nothing, evil thrives. It's like Ramana Maharshi says, the greatest social activist in human history, does billy anything compared to the monk meditating a cave, because the monk in the cave is hailing or the person who forgives is hailing the mind that is projecting a psychotic universe that needs to be hailed through the level of the mind, not on the screen of the world. So you go by the rotary. It's like free guys of you know,

pro Israel. It's like the forgiveness. And I know people hate this idea, but look at your own life and all the shit you haven't forgiven. Act kindly, be helpful, forgive. That is where the rubber meets the road, and that heals the mind that is having a sleeping delusion of this acid trip we call life. That is not life. So that's my that's my fake guru advice.

of you know, I'm a freak. I run my mouth a lot, but you know, I like to think we always have skeptics and and yeah, skulls on our shows. I'm not like Echo Chamber guy. I'm open to, you know, go toe to toe with any debate. It's just I think there's another story humanity, and I hope some execs sees at is too.

the reading. So, you know, and we've talked about the Acachhik records. I'm firmly of the belief that Tesla brought it through. And I've mentioned this before. If you've studied Tesla's work and you know about the Warring Cliff Tower, his idea behind that tower was to create free energy, to have towers I think it was every so many miles, and through the collective of these towers, he charged the atmosphere with electrons of some type that would power aircraft,

that would power boats and automobiles. And you know, it's just fascinating to think if he had been able to do that, what a revolution that would have been, especially in the early turn of the century, nineteen thirties, forties. But you know, it was before its time. And I think that's one of the big issues, is that when a scientist or a writer or a creative person brings through a device.

you gotta shift, you know. I don't know if it's you need to take some ayahuasca or some d MT or something to shift and then hold the residents, hold the space to walk among these archives.

I think we tap into it. As a writer, former illustrator, I think it's somewhat like the muse with this this h when you're tapped in and you are rolling and you're flowing, and you're writing music and you're writing with great conviction and elegance, and you're painting and you're tapped in, that's the muse that has a place within the Cashing records as well. So fascinating subject and to hear from Jim.

What is fascinating, what is special about Yucatan is it is home to some of the largest, most complex and wonderful Mayan cities from the ancient past. And I got to tell you, if you've never climbed a pyramid, we climb pyramids, and we have the opportunity is to climb pyramids at Ushmol, ekbalam Isimol and many many other locations

on this tour. And we see the cream of the crop when it comes to noted Mayan cities, and that includes chichen Itza and I mentioned Ushmol, but also Sayel Sahiel is a fascinating place, Labna and.