Hugh Newman: Forgotten Türkiye

be November one in London. But Hugh is on top of it. He has a streaming format. I think he's charging forty or fifty bucks for the full day. It's one day from ten am to seven pm for those of you who can't stay up late or excuse me early in the morning. It's all recorded and kept in a file so you can hear people like Robert Temple and Hugh jj Ainsworth many others will talk about them shortly. But he's got it down. He's smart, he knows what's

going on. He's been doing conferences for a while. As a former producer of programming for conferences, I appreciate what Hugh does and that's why we have sponsored it. I think we were going on our third or fourth year now, and he has a great lineup. He has an excellent lineup. Robert Temple alone is worth the admission and he has streaming, live streaming, automatically recording for you to pick up later, and it's just fantastic. Now a lot of people who

listen just to podcasts, that's great. We got a percentage of people that are moving to our YouTube channel and that's kind of nice because you can see who's talking, some of the graphics or whatever. For those of you who don't have YouTube, don't enjoy watching podcasts, make sure you go to the Facebook page to see the graphics,

the supporting material. We call them podcast notes, and they are the photographs, illustrations, graphics, whatever is in a book that we're promoting, or part of a dialogue, part of a presentation, part of an interview that we are presenting

for you, so you can get that material there. Today we are gonna talk to you not only about the conference, but I consider Hugh Newman one of the top names of researchers who are in the Middle East, notably Turkey, and we're gonna hear details on new discoveries that not only go Beckley Teppee, but one of the other Teppees, which is Carahan Teppee, which seems to be carving central

for human human like figures. They've already found five eight foot plus tall carved rock carved men, a number of animals, and the list keeps going on and on and on. We're gonna see some new photographs. We're gonna talk about some new photographs that are being collected. And I was just there a couple of years ago, and the Turks have put together a fabulous world class museum to display these artifacts. And I gotta tell you, although they're very rudimentary,

very crude in some ways, they are intelligently designed. And it's not that you look at it's not like you're looking at a Greek or Roman sculpture. They're much cruder than that. But they're substantial, and that's a big deal. They are substantial. The other problem with a lot of these sculptures is we just don't know what the meanings are. We haven't decoded the civilization that has created these subsurface temples.

And the other thing that both Hugh jj Ainsworth and Andrew Collins have detected is that many, if not most, of these underground subsurface temples are observatories of some kind. And these t squared columns that were carved have little notches and little protrusions and in some cases direct cuts where they become sightlines for various constellations, the sun, the moon, really observational tools that are now coming to light. We didn't really know until just a few years ago what

these temples were, what these underground temples were. We still don't know why they would cover them up to preserve them and some of the dates, said Klaus Schmidt. The archaeologists who uncovered the first go back to the temple. We just don't know what their purpose was, why they would dig and cover it up again. You know, it suld be nice if we had some writing, if we had some kind of way to decode these unusual temples. But who was going to bring it all to us today?

And I have just received the full compliment of slides that he is presenting at the upcoming November first Origins conference. So if you can't get there via personal passage or via streaming media, you can see it on Facebook. We got I'll probably post half of the presentation, and he's got some brand new slides that are I want to say profound, but we don't know if they're profound yet. There was a new Man sculpture of a man that just was discovered about a couple of months ago. I

posted it on the Facebook page. These are all very very unusual. We were guessing what's going on, and we're getting these incredibly old dates. Twelve thousand years ago, fourteen thousand years ago, and on and on and on. It keeps pushing back. As Graham Hancock likes to say, things just keep getting older. So a lot to enjoy. Again, if you can't get to the show, at least get to the Facebook page and take a look at the sculptures that he was presenting at the Origins conference November one,

so check that out. So today's program is Forgotten Turkey

and my guest is Hugh Newman. Hey. We're going to be in the jungle this December first to the twelfth on the Guatemala Sacred Temple tour, and this is an opportunity not only to climb pyramids, but to interact with the local shaman in understanding what the Maya were up to their state of mind and ceremony to connect with the sacred temples and pyramids that will interact with This is a chance to not only climb pyramids connect with them, but also to taking the spirit and the consciousness that

is the genius of the Maya. If you'd like to join us, go to Earthancents dot com, forward slash Tours and you'll see all the details. To get details on the Guatemala tour, send an email to me at Earth Ancients the number four of the letter you at gmail dot com and join me for a private zoom conference with our hosts Lydia and Arturo di Leong. Again. The Guatemala tour is December first to the twelfth, twenty twenty five.

For more information, go to Earth Agents dot com, forward slash Tours or send me an email Earth Agents the number four the LETTERU at gmail dot com for a discussion on just what we'll be doing. This tour is perfect for you. It's that time a year again, and I mentioned this most of the time that we have a period where we're doing conferences, and we mentioned the

Italian Conference on Ancient History. It's going to be Italy, but we're also sponsors of megal Lithomania's Origins conferences, Hugh Newman and family and this I think, and I'll ask you this question in a minute. I think we've been sponsoring for at least three or four years and he's always got a good lineup. Hughes traveled the world. He knows who's who, and there's good speakers all over the

place and he typically has them. And so we want to have Hugh on the program for a few hours to talk about not only Origins but also his latest discoveries in Turkey and what he's uncovered. So, hey, you how you doing? Man, good to see it.

Let me share the screen?

for real. They're not like Amanda's got some more kind of incredible ideas going back deep into history and what they could be used for.

He's got the you know, Beneath the Pyramids coming out, you know, so that's going to be fully updated with all the new data and everything else.

be doing that there. And so we've got a bit of an Egyptian thing obviously with Robert Temple as well. You know, he's going to be bringing some of his you know, I think he's quite intrigued of the whole kind of SARSCAN thing and how it fits in with

his data and stuff. He's being researched. And I'm just notably in his book Egyptian Dawn, well he was looking on he was looking underground, not just at the Cyris Shaft, but on all these chambers, all these you know, what we thought were Pulley systems going under the Valley Temple and everything else.

all this obviously at the conference. But obviously we're going to be going into what we're going to be talking about today all the new stuff coming out of Southeast Turkey, because there's a huge amount of stuff. I mean, JJ is going to be looking at all the symbolism JJ Ainsworth and her new analysis of super ancient sites even older than older than quebeculey Tepe in other parts of the world. I'm going to be looking at the solstices.

Because of our discovery of the Carahan Tepe witness solstice, I found evidence going way way back. I'm going to be presenting all this at the Conference of Solstices, going back into Paleolithic times and this obsession with it and now that really became a thing which ended up at places like Carahan Tepe. So people think the oldest solstice is like Stonehenge and places like this, but it's not. There's something there's something much more profound, much more ancient

going on. So yeah, we're going to be digging into all that. And one of the other guys we've got, his professor, David Jackson. He is fascinating. He's actually doing a dig here in October near me, and he's been working on the Mesolithic again the same era as Beckley Tepe really but in England around Stonehenge and a cycle blick Mead, but also at Stonehenge, which I'm going to be talking about. You know that they had solstice alignments. They're ten thousand years ago. But he's going to be

you know, he's now working on a new project. Hopefully we're going to get all the updates and that is literally starting this month in October, and yeah, I' going to be meeting him before the conference. He's going to be staying really near me, so I'll get some exclusive some updates on what he's looking at here because I think they found a whole load more stuff in the whole kind of Stonehenge landscape as well.

everything else. But also people can then watch the archive you know, at their leisure forever basically, And so we don't put these up on YouTube for about six months or a year, but they will eventually be up free. But by then all the new stuff's come out by then. So we recommend people check it out because you know, we put a lot of a lot of time and effort into kind of getting these really cool speakers, right.

stream and things like that. So yeah, people can check it out at Origins Conference dot co dot uk and you know, they can get in touch with me via the website as well.

on top of that every May. But this is kind of a thing we wanted to get more into the deep origins of civilization, not necessarily just talk about megaliths, other things as well, you know, kind of going into consciousness and you know, you know, astronomy and things like that. So that's kind of why we set out myself and Andrew back in twenty thirteen.

But yeah, it's kind of cool and there's lots of pubs and curry houses.

of lectures. But yeah, it does, you know. So we've got it covered basically.

turning up haven't seen each other for months now. We'll get to hang out, you know, we all get to hang out and kind of hear the latest stuff, you know, share ideas, Yeah, sign a few books, this, that and the other.

the main the main enclosures that everyone knows about. There's talk now of a new GPR scan is going to be taking place. This is there's one that was done in twenty fourteen or between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen. But they're going to be doing a new scan ground penetrating radiar and then they're going to decide what they're going to do next. Because there's all the olive trees, which was a big controversy, they've all now gone.

the big meeting there. He's found out over twenty million of funding euros has come in and they kind of it's almost started seeing saying they slowed down the excavation, are focused on conservation and tourism and building all this stuff over the site, which is some new stuff. I'm going to show you that, which is a bit I'm not too keen on that.

in northern Turkey. So I was there two years ago and you're saying that they have removed all of the olive trees on all sides of the area.

that now in the museum. So people don't know whether because it was placed in the wall, it was some kind of votive offering or whether it was just used to as a you know, it was knackled old bit of stone and they used it as a brick in a wall, you know, which I think it's quite interesting.

So there's different debates about what that is. But often, you know, when you're placing stuff like that, it's like it's in the foundations, and so it to me it feels like although it's probably added later after the main site of being constructed, it is has meaning.

the navel, they're kind of coming up the front. And it's got a kind of unusual, kind of almost alien like head on it, which we find in many of the statues at quebecley Tepe. But while we were there this was being discovered and so that we found this quite intriguing, and soon after, you know, and then it got announced like two days after we were there in September twenty twenty five. While we were there, we were noticing that there's lots of construction works taking place inside

Enclosure C at quebeculey Tepe. This is one of the main enclosures that everyone looks at. The Closure D is the main one which in the background that you can see there, but Enclosure see, they're actually like rebuilding the walls and rebuilding the ta pillars of the main tea pillar inside the site, actually gluing it back together like a jigsaw. As you can see here, they're kind of like just piecing it back together, which I thought was

very odd. But and the problem is this wall you see that they're rebuilding is going over some of the tea pillars and actually covering up some of the three D reliefs, which really surprised me because this wall. They think that basically the walls were placed there between the tea pillars the very early earliest point of construction in nine thousand and six hundred BC. There's no actual evidence

of that. There's no evidence that these walls weren't added later just to hold things up and kind of separate the enclosures. And so because you wouldn't create these three D reliefs and then build a wall straight over it, maybe in a few generations you might have done it

just to kind of prop up the stones. So we don't know what if they're reconstructing it, if it's actually based on the original design, because they haven't actually excavated below these walls and further down, so they could be building over actual excavation, which needs to be done, which will never see again now because these are permanent. So there is a bit of an issue going on there. We even had the Japanese princess turn up and just a couple of days after we were there, and she

kind of was having a look. She was also involved in the archaeological project because as a Japanese team taken over one of the test table of sites. But as you can see you see in the back there it actually reconstructed the t pillar step back together.

like massive bedrock carving going on here. And I believe even around the edge they had a curb kind of coming around the edge which they would slot the tea pillars in before the walls were built. You can actually see that in this reconstruction. If you look on the left hand side, you can see that there's like a bedrock curb. I can show pick within the bedrock itself. And got another image here before and after. That's the back of the tea pillar and you can actually see

it's kind of like a bit rough. It's kind of like being damaged and things like that, but it gives you, it gives you some impression, you know. And I think they're going to be doing more and more of this reconstruction, but I just hope they don't do too much where they then building over the archaeology where they could be discoveries to be made. And you also have to question, why are they spending time and money on this when ninety or to ninety five percent of the site has

not been excavated. You know, they could just be doing that. Why an't they doing that? And so that that baffle has always baffled me.

makes sense. But I'm just concerned about the walls mainly being built, you know, being rebuilt, because these are covering up stuff they haven't even excavated yet, I think, you know, so this is where the issue comes in, Hugh.

But one of the interesting things that I've noticed, you know, when you look at this, it's actually confirmed something I was researching before that, and that is the geometry I found that they it's almost like they've tied in it up and you can see more of the enclosure, and it's actually confirmed what I was saying all along that enclosure to see it as a very specific geometry, which is called a flat and circle modified type B based upon the work of Alexander tom and the British dose circles.

So that made my day. You know that that is now being confirmed. But also we have Enclosure D, which is behind it that's now been tided up. There's there's been all the new discoveries with the Boor statue, which we'll look at in a moment, but that is now proved that there's a geometry there which we can see here.

And this this back again backs up my theory that they were working with very sophisticated, very very specific types of geometry based upon the work of Alexander tom and the stone circles he decoded in the British Aisles, and so that is quite interesting. So the more they clear away, the more they excavate, the more they kind of tidy things up, the more shapes come out, which seem to

just keep coming up with these specific geometries. We get that and Enclosure B as well in Enclosure A and where you know, since more's being cleared up, it's shown that it's an egg shape, a very specific egg shape that we find, you know, in other stone circles around the world.

think you've got to look at it both ways. Let's just hope with this big GPR scan that they're planning to do this month apparently, that they'll find more and they'll be able to actually dig deeper and they'll be able to actually be able to have a look at what's going on kind of under the ground there a little bit more. Mean, they did the scan years ago, but I think they need that they've got better technology, they're going to do it again, so I think that I think that's the key.

or setting on the horizon. So you don't even if it had a roof will make any difference because you're looking through like a gap, like a window between two That's.

so makes no difference. But the other problem is is that we've had engineers, structural engineers join us on our tours there and they've looked at it, and so they can't be a root because all the tea pillars are slightly different heights and there's no damage on top of them. There would be there's a wood place on top of them,

and they're not structural, They're just not structural. These are more symbolic, you know, And these tea pillars might look structural, but they're not very shallow pits, very shallow sockets.

pretty much improven now. It's so, you know, there's there was this big debate that these slope slides buried the entire site, but that's that's literally impossible because there's you can't slope slide upwards. You know, there's there's stuff above where the slope slide happened, phil that are being placed there by people and so and Krahan Tepa. There's a scientific paper by the head archaeologist Nesmi Keral who's proven beyond doubt that there was a deliberate burial there as well.

And so we pretty much know that for a fact that you know, both these sites and other test Temple of sites, this is this is in fact, how they've been preserved so well.

the scan. You can see it going to the enclosure f which has got interesting a summer solstice alignment, and some other ones. They're smaller later enclosures. Some of those are being excavated. But as you see on just the scan they did like ten to fifteen years ago, there's giant enclosures under there. They're not they're thinking they might not excavate, which I cannot believe. This is one of the things Jimmy Corsett has been talking about, Look, why aren't they excavating this?

looked at properly, and so the potential is insane. I mean what baffles me is that we have some archaeologists who are saying, oh, you don't need to dig anymore, We've got enough information. But I don't buy that because you look at what's happening at carahand Teppe and say Birch.

They're discovering constantly daily whilst they're pushing forward with the excavations at those sites, and so it kind of makes you wonder what on Earth is going on and why they want to slow it down when they could really be speeding it up, you know, with all the interest, all the money that's coming into the country.

quite a lot. There's quite a lot still being uncovered. Obviously, we know about the seven and a half foot human statue holding its phalus with the ribs and the kind of almost sphinx like beard, and the porthole stone, and we have this dude as well. We have the kind of the vulture that was found in that particular enclosure.

But what is really fascinating to me is this they've they're now really they've really gone to work on this top enclosure where this statue and this vulture were found, and they're revealing these really interesting scenario where the bedrock cut bedrock floor, giant tea pillars in the center, twelve ta pillars around the edge, just like we find it a Beckley tepe, and these giant kind of benches carved out of bedrock in some cases, and with the tea

pillars were placed in between. We slotted into the bedrock. So I think that was a design spec before any walls were built at these sites.

no inkling. This was underneath my feet every time I walked there. I was going there for six or seven years please, but started probably excavating.

hundred years younger than go Beckley Teppe. But you're right in one respect because they think they've actually there was actually kind of people frequenting the area before that, and they found evidence of tools and stone you know, little you know, like arrowheads and things like that in the whole area on top and around Carahan Tepe, which go back at least a thousand years before this. And so yeah,

so there's something, there's something definitely going on there. But this new enclosure I just find really really fascinating because there's rumors of other statues have been found, but they haven't been presented to the public yet. We've got some information about that, but we can't really say much.

I mean JJ spotted this. They've now uncovered this like a mini pillar shrine, you know, and it's actually got one pillar or two pillars in it, carved out of bedrock as well, so it's like a little phallus room, you know, like there's the big Fallus room structure AB, but this is like what the hell is this?

a similar thing here as well. So so JJ was kind of looking at the comparisons of those two for a long time, you know, with the pillar shrine, could they be representations of natural features like you're getting caves like stalimite, stalley types, things like this. And then this one turned up and it looks almost like it's from the cave itself in way back, way further west in

central Turkey. So we found that quite intriguing. Actually, you know, there's little things like this, little symbols of we believe they're like fertility symbols turning up at these sites.

remember seeing any tools in any of the museum. How the hell did they cut that bedrug into flat walkways? It's just must have taken forever.

at some sites, but it wasn't heated hardened copper. It was just natural work copper with hammers and things like that. So yeah, there's there's there's a.

Tepe in the new enclosure that's been uncovered. We even have nubs, you know, like the nubs you get in Peru. There's a t pillar here with a nub on the front of it, which is like probably not a nub as we know it, but it's there, and it's like, oh, I got a sec you know, this is what the hell's that?

It's obviously there's a positive it's going to protect the site because this hasn't been exposed for thousands of years, but it's gonna it's already they're already digging these holes into the archaeology, you know, clearly going down to the bedrock to see where they could put these giant posts.

So that's slightly concerning. And we're also worried that that will block the winter solstice alignment the sun coming through, but looking at the cmeach here, it might not because if they don't have sides on the roof, it's going to be open. So the winter solstice sunlight should still be able to get through and come through without being interfered with, which is kind of what we hope that. That's what we're hoping anyway, But we'll see what happens

with that. I mean, we might we may or may not go back there in December because the thing the problem is now that now it's becoming a fishful site. There's cameras up everywhere, the guards with guns people out there too.

we think it's a major discovery. I mean, we're not blowing our own trumpet here a little bit, but we feel it needs to be kind of looked at because if they were recording things like this the winter solstice back at this time, then they were very smart, very advanced people, and Garyan Teppe was almost like built around this winter Solstice alonement. It could have been what their culture was kind of based upon. So it just makes

you wonder. I mean, for those that can see this is we've got time lapse of what actually happens on the winter solstice. You can see the head getting illuminated and it lasts for forty five minutes.

be something to that. So we had our guy, Kevin Eslinger, was a graphic three D artist kind of test you know, what it would be like when it was rebuilt with this when a socials alignment still work. He put the the kind of roof on it, he put the wooden beams on it, how they would fit the pillars if they if there were kind of if there was a construction there at ancient times. And I worked with him quite closely on it, you know, and things like this

to make sure everything was in the right place. And we just found that between the two outer tea pillars on the left, some would come through between them. It would almost be below just below the kind of roof as I mentioned earlier, so these alignments may not be interfered with with the roof, and it actually would come through and it would illuminate the stone. And he recreated this all on computer with the night sky in nine

thousand BC and kind of put it all together. So and even with a full thatch roof like this is like a Native American style, he found the same thing. It would still work. It was still function even if it's a one small window in it which captures the movement of the sun moving across the sky.

He was disputing our roof theory and he actually worked with Kevin Eslinger and myself and and and he basically confirmed. He was blown away. Even with a roof it works. Absolutely stunned by this. And if people are interested, I've actually put a full article together which people can read on academia dot org. We can link it, you know, on the show somewhere.

like Stonehenge. This is like people can go once a year and actually have a little celebration and observing something the ancients built into the site and observe themselves.

out next year. And I've pretty much proven already that even in Paleolithic times and other cultures before gebecley Teppe, in carahan Tepe, the winter and the summer solstice were big deals for people and it was all based upon initiations rituals. It was the creation of a calendar as well, but it wasn't a calendar like for the way we

use calendars. It was a calendar for feasting, for initiations, for rights of passage, for kind of changes in life, you know, like celebrations, getting pregnant, rebirth, fertility, things like this. That's very esoteric very But if you look into the mythologies of the ancient, the ancient cultures, which JJ has been doing, you find correlations with that it all fits together.

There's even data which I present, I'm going to present origins I'm going to be going in the new book proving that there's anthropological data hunter gatherer groups, and we know the around Tape people were thought to be hunt gatherers, that modern hunter gatherer groups all follow the solstices very carefully. They're obsessed by it, and so ancient hunting gatherers probably

did the same. And there's even paleolithic caves in France and other places that they chose which are aligned to the rising and the setting of the sun on the solstice and actually beams in the cave entrances and illuminate some of the paintings. This is what's mind blowing.

And I've got to give you know, this was a bunch of French researchers, but actually Martin Sweatman was the first to put this in his book and it kind of opened my eyes. But then I realized it's not just one Paleolithic cave. I actually went there this summer with my family to investigate all this. They found one hundred and over one hundred and thirty Paleolithic caves are aligned to the solstices and the equinoxes. It's way beyond chance.

So there's millions of caves to choose from in that part of the world, but they chose specific ones where the sun would illuminate on these specific times of year. And this is then there's paintings, you know, just in

that particular part of the cave. I mean there's even three D reliefs we find in some of these are very similar to quebecle Teppe and Carahan Tepe, and so I think there's a you know, there's good evidence that there's a long standing tradition going very very far back, you know, into different parts of Europe, even even into Russia. We've got evidence coming out of Russia now and the kind of Caucasus area which JJ has been looking at,

which suggests this is the case. I mean, this is just that this is the data that was collected by these French academics kind of backing all this up and so I mean that's a tip of the iceberg. I mean, honestly, there's there's a whole lot more than that. But you know, but I mean when it comes to the test Tapola sites, we're just waiting for or to be excavated to see

if other sites have this. I mean, one of the most exciting sites to me is we're talking about this before we came on air is a Sayberg as well.

a Turk in Kurdish means watch tower. And we know there used to be a tower at the site, say Burch, which got demolished in the nineteen forties. I know this because we spoke to all the families that have been there since that time. And so this is like Jericho kind of tower we're talking about here. So it gets more epic the more you look into it. Really, but you know, for a long time with say Birch, we had it looked like this and then we went back there.

You know, it's but a year and a half ago it looked like this, so half of it, half of it was uncovered. This was a year and a half ago, and this is like, now the whole house has gone. This is a three D scan, uh, and you can see there's there's a huge area. But now this is it. This is like an exclusive. Actually I haven't shown this to anybody. This is what it looks like now. So this is just one of the enclosures, mind you, this

is one Okay, this isn't like the entire site. We'll look at some of the other new stuff as well. So there so it's just blowing my mind the more we look into it. You can see that here as well. You can kind of get a sense. And this is about what thirty feet across something like that. He's an aerial shot of it one of the areas they're excavating. But what really intrigued me is the fact that the shape of it fits in of my research on geometry perfectly,

and you can see that here. This is again one of the egg shapes of Alexander Tom which is now being found at say Birch as well. Again I haven't mentioned this is the first time I mentioned this anywhere as well. So this is like brand new stuff coming out of here. So it's really compelling. What is coming out of the ground at say Birds for sure?

We we we know there's more here. We talked to one of the locals and we saw some image images of something that's going to be revealed very soon and I'm not really allowed to talk about it right now, but again, it should be out in the next few weeks. But we've got we've seen it. There's an amazing discovery that's being made. A little clue is is that it's going to be something like one of these let's just say that for now. But so with say Bert, you've

got this whole area here they're now excavating. You know, there's a whole area to the south. There's lots more they're digging deep into. Luckily, there was a whole area of the village that no one built on. This was like the sort of play park, you know, where no one touched. It's sort of like a sacred area. They didn't really touch it, and they've been digging there. They found human remains, they found beautiful statues, some intricate carvings

on them, and a whole lot more and so. And the other thing is another really weird thing is that in one part of the site, it's just on the left of the image here where they've kind of they thought it was a Roman quarry which was kind of being carved out in Roman times. Like eight thousand years later than when it was Say Birch was being built, because this dates back to at least nine thousand BC. And there's I mean, look at the quarrying on the

left there that is Roman quarrying, they think. And so I've got this crazy idea that the Romans discovered say Birch and like then then left it because look at this right. So you've got this here, you got this little rope, You've got this potentially a Roman quarry. We know they were quarrying in the area. There's another hill

just next to where they would definitely quarry. But look then on the left there you've got this beautiful little kind of test tabola style carving, which you can see here that is just next.

somewhere of them talking about this. I'm going to start looking into this because there's something strains going on here because a lot of the site, some of the other tast Tabola sites seem to have this where the Romans got really close to where many of them are but then left them as though they were kind of warned away by the locals or something like this, I don't touch the area, you can't touch that. But you know, let's just say though the new there's a lot of

human statues have come out of the ground. Carahan tape got Earth of Man that came out of a site in Shanneler for itself. We've got this little say birch man there, and we've got the Navali try head which was part of a large statue on the you know with the kind of serpent coming down the back. So all of these, so every actually every site they're finding these human statues. And so watch this space with say Berts because something is going to be announced very very soon.

But there's there's more though, there's sites. There's they've just started excavating a site that we've been investigated for several years called a yan Lahoyak. This is the official fence they put around the site. This is a giant test tablar site probably twelve thousand years old, a bit less and this is now being investigated by Japanese team, and it's just begun when we were there.

You know, this is like it's got a little carving on it as well. I've got three D scan of it as well, and I was like, WHOA, I couldn't quite believe. So, you know, it was JJ's kind of intuition that kind of got us to the right spot where we kind of found it. And so we were the first people to discover a tea pillar at Yandla hooyak. So keep that in mind because this is going to be massive. A yelloo hooyak.

Go to Earth Ancients on YouTube. For those of you who are not familiar with YouTube, you can go to Facebook and I'll have a small gallery of many of these unusual and groundbreaking photographs. What's going on in this area, Hugh? Is this a big post ice age push? Who are these people? What do we I mean, it's still very very uncertain as to who are these people, where do they get their data from? Are they ex Atlantinians? Are they ex ancient site people that we just don't know about.

What's the story on this?

you've got the Toothians, who were very advanced. They were building structures, they were doing early you know, attempts at farming and even using geometry in some of their designs. They all came up from the south. There's very good evidence cycled check mac Tepe possibly a couple of others of Thetuthian ideas being present there. So there's definitely in the Toothian influence. Now, these are the Touthians were a lot smarter than you think. And I think that there's

a misconception when it generally comes to hunter gatherers. I mean, people just assume hunter gatherers are kind of savage types literally hunting and gathering. But there's a whole different thing. Since I've been doing my research on the Solstices, go further and further back in time, you know, going about forty thousand years the hunter gatherers to me, was smart

as hell. There's the same brain capacity as us. They didn't have all the kind of problems we have to deal with in society now, and they just had time to dwell on things and research things and kind of feel into things. And I think they were studying the stars to a high degree. But they were also developing symbolism and language and other ideas that we don't really see, but if you dig into it you can find things there.

So I think the kind of gatherers, and I think when different groups came together, there was explosions of ideas, and I think explosions of taking lots of magic mushrooms and psychedelics and brewing beer and things like this. So they were going in as altered states as well, you know, bringing different plant medicines to one another and expanding their consciousness. So I think there's a development which may have been slight,

but it may have had bursts of ideas. So you also have people coming in from the west as well as well as the two fings from the south of the influence from the Russian steps coming in from the west. You have the sites like I mentioned earlier, Geekaya cave where there's clearly evidence of like fertility ritual going on. And also from the west you've got the whole Paleolithic people as well from the caves there, and so I think there's so many it was like a whole admixedgure.

And this was right at the end of the last I says, at the end of the younger driyat exactly where the weather just started improving. Within a few generations of that, they were building Go Beckley Tepe and so. But must remember there were sites some of these sites like check mac Tape, some of the other testablear sites were earlier built before Go Beckley Tepe. So they were

already in this area doing things and developing it. So I think there's there's a different way to look at it now because so there's for a long time people have been saying, no, it's just like a massive explosion people came from Atlantis, and then other people say it was a gradual build up. But I think there's a bit of both. I think there's like different groups coming in explosions of ideas. But they were a hunter gatherers, you know as well, But they were very more ever,

much more sophisticated than people realized. I mean, when I spoke recently at the guy at Ancient Civilizations conference, when I mentioned I think hunter gatherers are smart, people chuckled in the audience.

I think it's open your mind to the fact that these these these people in prehistoric times were just like us, you know, that they were as advanced as us in the mind.

not last or whatever. What's the story on that, because that would help us a little bit if we could do some testing on bones and see the skeletal capacity of the brain and so forth.

such a very limited amount. That happened more in the levant where you have the kind of plaster you know, and like paint ochre and things like that put on the skeletons. You get that up near the Tigris River to the northwest, sorry, the northeast, up on the Tigris area that sites like cortic Tape and Bonchop Glutala, but not so much in the Testeplar region. No, but they've just found that, say Birch, this is actually from a

year or a year and a half ago. This fhot, but they've found this cachet of bones and skulls in one area in the new excavation at say Birch, so that's going to be a now soon. At Cheyanu, another site further north which has been known about for years, we visited there as well. They found this whole discovery of this red ochre floor that goes back to nineteen thousand, six hundred years ago. They found cachets of bones, they

found what's called the Skull building there. They've got hundreds of skeletons and skulls that were decapitated and placed into the like in a certain manner, in a very peculiar way. And so there is there is a few little spots of that, but no elaborate burials have been found, and very few human remains, but they have found some and they're now starting doing the testing on them. So this is where the real data is going to come from. That fantastic. Yeah, that's great news.

found and things like this. So there's a there's a lot of good happening, you know, and you know with the what the archaeologists are doing, but there's also you know, there's a lot of debate as to how they're doing it. I mean, why are they reconstructing enclosure sea, Why aren't they excavating more? Why are they kind of releasing these new discoveries to the public quicker? You know, there's debates

about that. At the end of the day, you know, we've got to just you know, there's nothing new or you can do. We've just got to hope, you know, hope they're going to release everything and keep excavating. But the pace they're going at Saber, it's the pace they're going at these other sites like Cephia, Tepe Hrbet Zuvan and you know Carahan, Tappey especially, they're they ain't messing about, They're getting on with it and that they're not going

to stop. In fact, the roof they're planning at carahand Tepe Bay is actually quite interesting because it's not just a fixed roof like you have have a quebecley Tepe. They're actually going to be it's actually kind of adaptable, so you can extend it up the hill in different directions so they can keep excavating, and then they can extend the roof.

mention this is this was discovered. This is a stone of quite a large stone bowl carved as solid stone, looks like bassel, that had another bowl within it, and underneath it was a stone plate.

found going into the holes. Yeah, and so because you know, if those that can see this, this is the imagery here, and you've got another view of it there, and you've got sceptors as well stone septs.

you go through the whole good. Yeah, statistic tools, yeah, yes, So there's a lot of this is now being discovered. They haven't said where this was actually found in cararahanter based. It could be relevant once we know, but this is just one of the discoveries that came out just a few months ago. This is actually on display temporarily at the it's in Anchora. It's actually in the sort of palace buildings in Anchora and the President there's actually a

sort of display of test temple of stuff there. So some of them, you know, it's not in the Anchora Museum, it's not the it's in another building.

where they do. They come up with some way of enhancing their seeds and grains to like grow the food or something like this. So we have to be able to question that kind of thing. But I think you know you can't. Yeah, you can't really go inside these structures anymore, you know, very few.

never have discovered that. So that kind of thing I take notice of, you know, you or.

for the winter. So we had to go first thing in the morning because they were going to come in at nine am or something. And that's why we were forced to go at sunrise. We weren't even know there would be a winter Solstice thing there, but then we a really good one.

is a whole different time frame. And the sophistication is equal or more advanced than all these other cultures that came five to eight thousand years later. So, and we're not just talking one site, you know, we're talking multiple They're talking about forty plus sites now in that region. Each of those has multiple stone circles and these enclosures, these alignments, thousands of statues, artifacts, it's and it just

doesn't quit, you know. It's like, you know, we thought it was going to quit after you know, Beckley Tepe, but they found a whole civilization there. And so this and the fact that it was buried, there's civilizations and cultures and armies and people have passed through that area for the last nine thousands of plus years and didn't

even know it was there. So it's been completely written out of all the history books, all the traditions, all the cultures, and so it's like this whole fresh discovery of something that's just been it's the lost civilization. Everyone's talking about this is it?

years or more. It blew our minds because we dawned on us days later. My god, you know what if we hadn't seen that, You know, what if they then built over it with a roof or something, you know, and it'd never been discovered. So what else is there that hasn't been discovered yet? It hasn't even been dug up. If we have, we're we're finding stuff. At the first excavation was done, we found something significant. So the list goes on all these sites that could be major, major

things taking place. Then we have to look at like I think I've got to give Graham Hancock a bit of He wrote this fantastic article about the story of Gilgamesh, you know, the whole Sumerian thing and everything else, and about that Seyburg say Birch being a representation you know, literally of that, you know, the whole kind of narrative scene that they discovered there was actually part of this Gilgamesh story, and so he's now piecing together it's Mesopotamian connection.

And so all these cultures like Egypt, Stonehenge, Sumerians now we can see. Now we're starting to see who they got influenced by. We're started to see the influences like but the geometries from my research, the astronomy, the Gilgamesh myths, JJ's research on the symbolism and the Golden Gate of the ecliptic and everything else. So so we started to piece together a whole missing chapter of human history thanks to these discoveries in Southeast Turkey.

about origins. We've got the link to that, but give us your own personal dating. What's your website, what's the other Facebook links and things like that.

do your own exploring. You know, you don't have to come with us on the tours if you don't want to do that kind of thing, but we are, we are super passionate. We really want to, especially when it comes to Turkey. We want to show people what's going on there because you can go there, you can go yourself, and you're going to miss loads of things if you don't know what you're looking. It's all very intricate. So we do encourage people to check all that out. There's

there's a whole world to explore. Fantastic. Hugh is always a real lesson on what's going on. And I appreciate your time and continue success.

know anything about it. The general consensus isn't you know, seeing is not going to pick up information unless it's like groundbreaking, Like there's a number of figure statues that I think are outstanding, but they don't typically report on it. It has to be something fairly dramatic now because it's like go Beckley Tippy's Old News, even though it's the oldest temple in the world at nine thousand, five hundred BC going further back. So to see these images, go

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