Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, Hi, how are you doing. Good to see you. This week we're talking about vibrations, energy and how it flows in and around us. I speak on vibration all the time, conscious vibration, energy, body vibration, what we sense mind, body, and spirit, and how we work with it.
We're gonna be seeking with a scientist who has studied the subtle vibrations that we exude when we meet somebody, when we're in a crowd, when we go to a new place, when we're interacting with people, what it means to have an intuition about somebody else, or a feeling, a feeling about a place we go to. And we're going to talk about why these vibrations are important to recognize and also how to exude positive vibrations, positive energy. You know, it's kind of funny even to say that, you know,
hey, how are you, How are you doing? How are your vibes? Rock and roll band the Beach Boys that had a very very well known song called good Vibrations, and they met just that, you know, having good vibes, feeling great, having people around you that were inspirational or collectively zooting good vibrations. This is really really critical, and nobody wants to be around somebody who's a downer, who's who's like depressed or morbid or sad or
negative all the time. We all have people in our lives that are, you know, constantly himming and hying about things, and it seemed to be negative all the time. I can't be around that too much. I'll hear, hear for a little bit and then I got to move on. Most people can't maintain the negativity. But there are a lot of people that live in the in the swallowers, in the in the you know, recesses of negativity, and it doesn't pan out very well for them in their lives is
what typically happens. So today we are talking about the positive vibrations, the the accentuating the positive. And the book we're talking about it's called Why Vibes Matter, Understand your energy and learn how to use it wisely. And this is a scientist that has come from the Ion or the Noetics Sciences Research Center
here in Northern California. There's a lot of people that are coming out of that that center, notably Dean Radden, who wrote a fascinating book a couple of years ago has come out of there, and this is a research center that really looks at fascinating topics from the ancient past, meditative meditation, intuition, psychic awareness, other dimensions, other realities. They figured out a way to scientific improved stuff and I love working with him. So that's our program
today. Here's a short interview I'm going to play on how to create good vibes with Sonya Choquette, who is a intuitive author. She's been around for decades and she writes quite a bit about vibrations. Let's have a quick listen, hiyone, Welcome to my channel, and today I'm going to talk about something that's really important that we all kind of generally want but don't really understand, and that is how to create good vibes. So let's start out with
what exactly is good vibes. It's an expression that people understand. I used it around the world. When you put it out there, people understand. But let's really break it down. What it means is that it's we're actually acknowledging that we are vibrational beings, that we are energy vortices, we are we have this frequency and this experience of energy that is not only in our bodies. It reflects what's coming to us. But we're putting out the combination.
And when that vibrational energy vibes, vibrational energy is congruent and it's harmonious and it's positive, and that it supports who you authentically are. You feel good, and when you feel good, your own energy that's radiating outward feels good to other people. And human beings are resonant. We affect one another. There's a great experiment where if you put one pendulum swinging and you put another one next to it, in no time, they're swinging together. And
that's how human beings are. We swing together. So in swinging together, we put out this energy that either will take us up or pull us down, that will either amplify our good feelings and give us energy or will drain
us. And so understanding that we are vibrational beings, that we are energetic beings that affect one another, and understanding at in our vibration in the way that it goes out, we actually are communicating with the world and the world is communicating with us, and that we can actually and control the conversation direct the conversation, choose the conversation energetically to be uplifting and positive is super empowering. So how do we do that? Well, the first thing is to
take a look at an experience of your own energy. So I'm going to walk you through that right now. I want you to take a look around the room. I want you to notice where you are. I want you to have maybe one or two things you point out. I always think to say, pick three separate things. Maybe something soft, something smooth, something living like soft is my fabric. Smooth might be you know, like the
texture of the dresser, something living, the life plant. And when you put that out, what you're doing is you bring your awareness to the body and to energy. You're starting to notice because do you know what, when you're in your head, you actually can't feel a thing. The brain doesn't feel, has no sensory feeling. So when you get in your body that
you can actually begin to check in with my vibes. Then I want you to take a breath in through the nose, very slowly, an exhale like you're blowing out candles, and it calms your brain when you breathe in slowly, and you exhale like that, you empty yourself of the things that numb you out. Then I want you to think about and name out loud things you love. Doesn't mean you have to have them right now, It doesn't
have to make sense. You can say I love ice cream, I love sleeping in late I love a good pillow, I love bread, new shoes, I love being in nature. I love giving my kids a hug. I love a beautiful dinner. I love candles. I love a romantherapy. I love good coffee. I love fresh fruit when it just comes off the trees. I love the smells of lavender and orange. I love citrus,
I love iced tea and the sound of your own voice. Naming what you love opens your throat chakra in your heart chakra, and you start to generate the experience that creates good vibes, which is love. So you don't even have to be experiencing these things. Just calling them out and recognizing them connect you to that feeling of love. So that's a tremendous and positive way for
you to start generating good vibes. If you ever get a chance to hear her in any kind of recording or seminar or even get a chance to get her books. Shokette, Sonia Shokette. She comes from a long line of intuitives that go way back to Europe, and she has been teaching for a long long time. So check that out, all right. So today's program is why vibes matter, Understand your energy and learn how to use it wisely. And my guest is doctor Garrett Yund coming to us from the Pnuetic Science.
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why vibes matter. My guest today is doctor Garrett Junt, and he is coming to us from the Institute of Noetic Sciences. Let me tell you a little bit about Garrett. He is a scientist, a molecular biologist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, where his research focuses on mapping the mind gene interface. And he has conducted carefully control laboratory experiments with spiritual healers and biofield practitioners from around the world, including China, Brazil, Canada, US, Japan,
and so forth and so on, including places like Sri Lanka. That's amazing. But I'm having him on the program today. He just published this book, Why Vibes Matter. Understand your energy and learn how to use it wisely. And this is a critical It's important because a lot of us go through life just going hey, that feels great, or this person's fascinating. What do I feel so connected to them? Or even more importantly, why does this person turn me off, why do I feel like I do around
this person? So today Garrett's gonna talk a little bit about this book he has written, and also I'm gonna get some some strategies on using vibes. So, hey, Garrett, welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on the program. Thank you so much. Great to be here, Cliff. All right, let's get to the heart of this thing. Why a book on vibes? Were you doing some tests on project and the idea of unseen vibrations unseen feelings came up and you thought to yourself, I'm going to explore
this a little more. Oh yeah, I mean I've been doing research on energy medicine immodalities that I believe are related to this topic of vibes for for many years, as you mentioned. But the word vibes, it means so many different things in the culture, and it's like really popular to talk about getting good vibes or feeling the vibes are being in the same frequency as somebody,
So it's kind of it can be confusing. So the book is kind of a it's a very basic kind of a guide to understanding the different types of vibes. And then yeah, as you say, some some methods for beginners on how to either influence the vibes are getting or the vibes are putting out. So just kind of a little little guide book to that all. It's like, yeah, it's it's very cool talk a little bit about vibes.
Now. I gave some examples of you know, when you meet somebody ago, you connect with them, but you don't know why or you don't. I mean, I'm going to get into some heavy stuff here because I've been doing I've been kind of following this for a while. We can get into past lives, we can get into you don't get into past lives because perhaps that's a little too airy fairy, or you wanted to keep the focus on a specific lab result that you were experimenting with. I don't know.
But when we say that I get a good vibe from that person, what's happening? Is it hormonal? Is it unseen? I mean you even bring up EMFs, which you are fantastic to talk about, but give us a kind of an overview of what we are feeling. What if the vibe is Yeah, Well, I think it's important to talk about three different types of vibes because they could all be combined when you're having that feeling, or they could be one or the other. So I kind of divided into three types
conscious vibes, subconscious lives, and super conscious lives. So the conscious vibes are the ones that your senses are picking up, and they're like expressions like smile or frown. I mean this, you know, this gives a vibe you get a reaction from it. Can be that obvious or even micro expressions a little less obvious, or you know, the theme you pick for your wedding, you know you want a rustic vibe, and you do that by putting things around, types of flowers that kind of elicit this response. So
those are the conscious vibes, kind of the most obvious. Don't talk about them much in the book is as you mentioned, kind of research is more on the hidden side of things. So the next level down is the subconscious vibes, and those can be hormones, chemicals that we can't smell, as you mentioned, the electromatic fields. So these are their physical vibration, you know, even the at the molecular level that have an impact on our body.
Our body them up, our conscious mind isn't aware of them. But once our body detects them and reacts to them, it bubbles up into our conscious mind as a vibe. So that's that's kind of more of this unseen vibe. And then the last category kind of I bury the lead a bit in the book and wait till the end to really get into the woo woo stuff with this subconscious Yeah, and that's where I believe that kind of the energy medicine, the vibrations of the universe that we can tap into and the
connected with everything mine. But you get there, So that's that's the woooo stuff. That's what I like about Ion though, is Anoidic Sciences, is that you guys do tackle the voo woo stuff and you try to clarify it as best you can. Sometimes we've had a number of scientists from on the program Annoidic Sciences who who go out of their way to try to explain things, but it's not always explainable. Sometimes it's like wow, that's heavy.
Um. Would you say that you wrote this book because you want people to understand hidden messages or or the other levels of conscious activity that make us who we are, Yes, and to give folks tools to chill down a bit to you know, give folks to to to manage their own vibes so that we can maybe get along a little better and um be a little happier. Yeah, that's that's very cool. Let's get into this. You talk about when you meet somebody that there are somanic influencers. Uh, there are implicit
basic biases and things like that. Biases are are are influences on us and this could be how we were raised socially. There could be other influential factors. You could be in a group that has a certain mindset and these are what I consider the biases. But let's talk a little bit about the what
you call somanic influencers and how they can color the vibe. So one of the most surprising examples of this that I found when I was doing the research for the book were these um chemicals that our body picks up and they have a somatic influence on us. We don't know, we don't reckon, we can't smell anything. The craziest example is chemicals in women's tears. So these the researchers were looking at the effect on men when they are inhaling the chemicals
coming from women's tears now you can't smell it at all. There's nothing that you can smell. And you know, I think that they were looking for the idea that a woman's if they're crying, then the chemical might induce in the men changing their emotion as well. But they did not find that. But they found that as it reduced their libido, so they found women less attractive and their sexual desire was decreased, and they even measure that at the
level of testosterone decrease. This is a very well controlled study. They basically put a little cotton swab under the nose that's got to either controls or the tears. Men have no idea, they can't smell anything, but their reactions are changed. So that's what I'm talking about. Somatic influences that you're not aware of, but they totally give you this vibe like yeah, totally not into this, and cann s bubble up that away. So I thought that
was the most surprising thing. I mean, I had to say when I was reading about smells, which is part of this Women's Tears, I was like, you've got to be kidding me, But it does make sense. We are, uh the sense smell around us, like certain perfumes have certain substances in them that make us horny or they can uh make us feel high, a better or uplifted. I think that I'm northern calm, native California. I don't like necessarily the chemical uh perfumes, but I do like the
more organic perfumes occasionally. I grow from Aware and I was like, oh great, But it's funny because these these these women's tears that you talk about, and what you just said to me is as odd that it would shut your libido off and make you feel differently rather than aroused. It's almost like it's a it's a woman's defense mechanism. Yeah, you could imagine evolutionarily that it would be a defense mechanism to kind of decrease kind of that that interest
from the other other sex, like patuli. Let me just ask us. I remember coming up from thank You, Yeah, I love that one. Yeah, so do I. When I came up from college when that my my mother is like, you just wear that to piss us off. So not everybody likes it. But there are certain perfumes and sense like peculy that when mixed with your own chemistry, create unique smells. Yeah, absolutely, you know, and I think Peculi is one of those that really reacts to
the individual's body chemistry and creates this smell. And so you're reacting differently for different people. Yeah, I think so. I think so too. Yeah, I still like it. UM talk about the uh we mentioned the EMF electromagnetic frequency UM and then I want to get into heart math. This is something that you bring up, and I find this quite interesting. If somebody has a certain vibration energetically and we're not too shut down, we could pick
up on that and get a sense of a person. Talk a bit about it. Yeah, some of them is fascinating work. And yes you mentioned
Heartmath. Heart Math Institute here in California. UM. So they describe I measured and described an electromagnetic field around human body that generally UM so lec A minute fields are created by all kinds of parts of our body muscles, brain, but the heart generates the largest one and it can be visualized as kind of this inflated doughnut shape around our body stands out about three or four feet.
So that's just something that we have. What was fascinating is that the research is at Heart Math Institute could detect differences in the kind of the way the EMF the patterns of it would change with emotion. So they had folks like focus on anger or folks focus on gratitude, and they could see a
change, a physical change in this field. So you're walking around and what I like about this this is a very non esoteric description of vibes for real, And the idea you walk in you get a feeling from somebody could literally be this physical energy donut around them. And even more compelling is they showed that that could be transferred. So if you're invisible donut MF field comes overlaps with another person's field, that energy can be transferred. So you could pick
you know, say they're bad vibes. You could be picking up bad vibes. You could be taking them on. It could be a little bit infected by these by these bad vibes. So um, yeah, that that really opened my eyes. I didn't I didn't know that when he started the Blood Yeah Heart math uh is as an amazing technique and it's still going strong. I don't know a heck of a lot about it. I didn't know that one of the founders here in the Bay Area. I can't think of his
name, But it's a fascinating technique where natural or biological beings were. We have these sensories, and would you say that this is just who we are? This, this vibe this this uh, I mean, there's no I mean we're talking about the heart. Would you say that the heart is the main vibe sender and receiver. If we were to talk about organs, as the as the tools, as the registrars of these vibrations, what would you say, is the is the dominant organ or is it the whole system that
is constantly sending and receiving vibrations. I would lean toward that ladder idea that it is the whole system. No, of course, if you just talk about electromagnating fields, then absolutely the heart is the largest generator of that. But in the whole concept of vibes even you know, even if you just move to these superconscious vibes, that electromagnetic fields cannot explain that at all. So I think it's the whole system, whatever all of that is, whatever
where our consciousness comes from. I think, um is you've got to look at the whole system. And of course the fact that we're interconnected with every everything and everybody around us, so kind of all swimming vibes, I mean their entire reality, everything physical is vibrating. It's an illusion that you know, the desk is solid um, it's basically molecules vibrating there. So you know again, that's that's why it's important to kind of hone in on that
kind of what aspect of you and be talking about um. So anyway short answers, Yeah, the whole system, all of us. You know, it is funny because you talk about electro magnetic frequencies and this is something that fascinates me a great deal. And as a energy generator, a physical where each of these you know, each of us are these generators. This is
an interesting function of being a human being. And you actually get into breathing techniques that can enhance your vibrational field as well as using meditative techniques like OHM and things like that, which I thought was interesting. But if we don't use the breathing technique and the I'm just gonna use you know, Eastern philosophy towards consciousness and raising energy, it just naturally happens. Right, We can't check this off. This is a natural function of our physicality, right,
that's right, that's right. Yeah, We're just we're naturally doing that, so you you know, we can be unaware of it and just kind of bumble around, which is kind of how most everybody is and including me most of the time. And once in a while, if I think about it, you can you can manage it a bit to be a little bit, a little bit more effective humans. I think that's yeah kind of the goal.
Would you say, and I think you write this quite succinctly in the book, but would you suggest that when we are using our vibes it is both a positive and a and a defense mechanism, or you could say, a safety net and into what people that we're interacting interacting with. Yeah, yeah, I think that we do pick up information and at a subconscious level of integrate that and use that to you know, decide how we're going to interact with those folks or navigate the world as well as spaces. Yeah.
I think that that there's that's information that we're that's accessible. Um, whether or not we you know, dismiss it or tune into it or discern you know, for for example, um, you know, I talk in the book about haunted houses or in sometimes this feeling. So you know, there's sometimes you can get a vibe that bubbles up from the subconscious and then your conscious mind has constructs an idea about it, particularly because of the way it
feels and it's it can be you can be wrong about it. So I talk in the book about some research where if there's the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning can manifest as a feeling of dread even though you know, a fear that people get the idea that their house is haunted, that they're being suffocated in their sleep, like literally feeling that way, completely scared, and it's
due to low level carbon carbon monoxide poisoning. So I just bring this up as an example of lists, you know, paying attention to your vibes and discerning where they're coming from. So in this case, these these vibes could literally be saving your life. Your body is like you ought to be scared, pay attention, there's something wrong in your environment. Um, but now
you know again not necessarily just jumped to the esoteric conclusion exactly. Um, let's look back in our evolution as a as a species, when we didn't have cell phone towers, when we didn't have radio frequencies and a whole bunch of other you know, EMPs in the atmosphere, and it was just us in nature. Would you say that these vibes were much more acute and highly
focused. Yeah, well, I think that we were. Well, one huge change recently is kind of our disconnection from the earth, kind of our insulation from the vibes, you know, the energy vibes of the earth and nature around us. So for almost all of our evolution, we were really immersed in nature, touching the ground, seeing and smelling and hearing and being
immersed in nature. And just this very recent period where you know, many of us are quite isolated and literally insulated from the energy of the ground and the earth and nature around us. So I think that this shift is stressful for our body. Our system is something that I believe contributes to ill health, and there's plenty of research showing that adding that back, for example, nature walking, which seems you know, pretty simplistic, can have measurable effects
on improving health, deliver the immune system, and others. So I think that that's one shift, as well as our ability to tune in and pay attention to it, I think has shifted. As you mentioned, the cell phones. Um, kind of where our mind is focused, where we spend our energy, and um, you know the information we used to influence our our behaviors. I think that we've been blocking them out. You know,
we're more recently now we blocked them out. So I think that I don't know, I don't I guess when you say more focused, I would say yes, kind of our our focus, our attention of our navigating the world was more focused on vibes, our vibes in nature as opposed to know And I think that's yeah, it poses some challenges for us. Can you can you speculate onto how finally tune our vibe sensory and distribution may have been in
an earlier period without the unseen tech? Um, would you could you say that we were highly sensitive in terms of psychic abilities, precognition, and I want to get into the actual vibes, which would be if we have sure you know, senses, can we get a sense of when there's going to be migrating animals. I'm just kind of sensing a sensing. I want to get a sense of what you think these tools are that we take for granted,
this this this biological nature that are sensory receptions and distribution. That's the lack of lack of a better word for it. So yeah, yeah, well, I think that I don't know that our ability to sense that since these things has changed as however, I think that the focus of our mind
has changed dramatically when you talk about this long stretch of evolution. And I think that the reason I think that is because the techniques that are affected at tuning into vibes almost always have as a central feature the quieting of the mind chatter, the quieting of the internal dialogue, bringing the awareness to the present moment, as opposed to the natural state of modern humans of constant mind chattering, thinking about future, thinking about past and planning, and really not being
in the present moment. So I think that's that's the key difference in terms of what we're facing now, I think, and that's why the techniques to quiet the mind are effective. And then I think, underneath of it, um, we're just pretty much the same biological creature that we've been that that changes pretty slowly, it's compared to what's going on up in our mind.
M hmm, fascinating. We're gonna take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will be right back with my guests today, doctor Garrett Yunt and his new book, Why Vibes Matter. We'll be right back. My guest today is doctor Garrett Yunt, who is coming to us from the Annoytics Science Institute in Northern California, and he's written a new book called Why Vibes Matter. Understand your energy and learn how to use it
wisely. And we're getting a sense why it is important to be aware of these subtle energetics, subtle bodies that are around us and systems that we use on a regular basis. You have a section in your book which is Vibes about Places, which I fought was interesting. Talk a little bit about that. And this is where I'm really curious about your definition of having a recognition of a place, because I've I've been to places in Mexico and I thought
this feels so uh familiar and like I've been here before. But talk about vibes in places, well, the kind of one of the most common things that come up when when people say get of you know, getting walk into a place and you get a vibe um is the idea of residual energy, residual vibes left over from something happened in that place before UM. I looked into the research on that the and it's really really difficult to test for that.
UM. One of the first things that was done is looked just across across cultures in terms of just people's beliefs and the and it was shown that, you know, this is something that's really commonly felt and it affects people's behavior. So simple experiment is, you know, you have folk that come and they're going to fill out some questionnaires that are just a ruse. It's not even about this questionnaire as you to say, okay, go over there
in one of those rooms to take it. And if there's little like there's a sign out front that that indicates that that previously in that room there's been people talking about sad stuff versus another room that has a sign that gives the impression that people were in there doing happy stuff. People will go in the happy room because they believe that those vibes would be left there. And I didn't find it the compelling evidence that proves that there really were vibes I was
looking for it. I really what we found is that people believe it, but I have done some experiments that indirectly do provide evidence for that. And this is once now we're we'd have to jump into the superconscious vibe stuff because the experiments I've done with energy medicine practitioners and this it was practitioners of a Japanese healing arc called Joe Ray and Joe Ray's very people genuinely know about chi going Chinese chigong as a healing modality, Joe Ray's in a sense of Japanese
version of that. And I had been doing experiments with healers, trying to do in vitro experiments, so having brain cells or brain cancer cells and Petrie dishes and asking the healers to try to influence the cells and Petrie dishes with
their healing energy. And after I had failed to get positive results or failed to replicate results that have been published, the idea was presented to me by Bill Tiller at stand of University about conditioning the space that he said that my lab had bad vibes in it because I was UM, I was at UCSF, I was studying brain cancer or so it was radiation and chemotherapy. It's
pretty sad and negative. Yeah, pretty negative, pretty environment. Yeah, and he was saying, you know, the the Puto energy vibes are being you know, just washed out. You can't you can't do these experiments. That You've got to do it in a in a place where the vibes are conditioned, where the local physics is literally changed, and there's residual good energy,
and they are good vibes. So we did end up setting up experiment at at the Institute Omenic Sciences where it was a basically a big Faraday cage for people, a huge room built with steel walls, and it was completely virgin too healing energy. So it was a blank slate. And so I
decided I would do these cell culture experiments three days in a row. The first day while it had never been any healing vibe in there, and then these Joe Ray healers would come in and they'd spend hours chanting and healing and vibing it up as much as they could, you know, and the idea that over time that would condition the space so that the petri dishes would start
responding to the healing. You know. Short virgin of the story is that it worked by the third day that's when I got to see the sales responding. Dean Raid and used one of the other scientists at no Edics, which I know has been on your show clip. He secretly didn't tell me, but he said these random number generators to witness the whole thing as well inside the box we call it, and also feeling like, you know, if if the vibes built up the point where the sales would respond, that he
would be able to register that in these random number generators. And the way he predicted is that the randomness would decrease because of a coherence in the field. Also, you know, the change in the local physics, and so he also saw that happened. Um So, anyway, we published that the first time a biological and a mechanical target. I mean, what's the takeaway
on that, Garrett. I mean, it's the takeaway that that our healing environments need to be as positive and as charge with with the good vibes as possible for for healing. Or I mean that that could say some negative things about hospitals, like in other words, get the hell out of it once you're you, you've had your procedure. It's funny because my grandfather who was a an internist down in southern California, used to say, don't go to
a hospital unless you're dying, which is kind of the end result. But he left a huge impression on me. But I'm curious about the what your takeaway would be on something like that. Yeah, well, I think does two takea ways that when you mentioned I think is valid um in terms of paying attention to this space is where you want to do healing. So you know, this isn't lost on hospitals at least not here in in California,
where there is effort to create good vibes there. Um, you know, kind of counteract although you know some some scary stuff happens there, you can you can mitigate that in certain ways to create to create good vibes in the
space. So I think that's that's important. And I also think that the takeaway it does come back to that belief about energy left in a space, um, because we you know, this is basically some direct evidence that supports that in a way and directly that you know, look like there was some space had some change. Now of course that's for you know, these gay
healers that have spent their lives you know, building up dissability. That's not kind of the every day forget, but that extreme case I think is relevant to just our every day, everyday life, where yeah, the feelings of a place, I could say, yeah, there's a little evidence kind of suggesting that, and and lots of people believe it, but it would be
fun to see more research on that to directly test it. Um. We don't want to get too hard and depressed about the hospital visits, but without getting too detailed, isn't isn't It kind of a challenge to work with the alapas of the world, simply because their healing models are so brutal and they don't incorporate subtle work any you know, any traditionals be an Eastern philosophy of meditation, yoga, bodywork. It's all pretty blunt. Yeah, and how
do we work with that? Yeah? I think that, you know, part of the problem is the allopathic medicine really does think of the system. It doesn't think about the human as this energetic system so basically just rules all that out, thinks of as a as a machine. I think that the
way we do that is to shift the paradigm with them. Some movement in that direction is now osteopathic doctors who are have the same mechanical training and go through the same residency programs, but incorporate the idea of the energetic body, the interconnectedness. They're now coming coming, commingling, and I think that's, you know, that's a positive movement towards medicine as a whole. I think that it can evolve to be more comprehensive and more understanding of the complexity that
we humans are. But though you think it's going to have to be some I always say this on my show Some Am I T. Scientists is going to have to build some kind of scanning device that really reveals the chokers or actual living bodies within the system, and that there's an auric field, and then the heart projects. You know, we're just talking about heart math and
how this energy projects around the body. That seems to me like the only way that they're going to really accept the fact that we are energy devices or energy biological energy producing devices that are interacting with our environment and with nature and with each other in a way that can be positive and negative. And then I read a long time ago that the belief is that disease is caused by these energetic problem areas that are not relieved of their strain, of their vibrational
patterns. And when you can relieve it, this is where healing comes. I mean, I don't know what you can say about that, but but I mean, this is so far out of the realms about pathy. Just talking about it is like I could see that the professors that teach these young doctors rolling their eyes, you know, but whatever. Yeah, yeah, well, you know they've they've that prediction about funding machine to measure it. Yeah, that would that would certainly that would be a game changer for them.
I don't know that that's going to happen. I don't know. I hope that just you know, the patients are gonna want to go to osteopathic doctors more and they're gonna start to realize they're gonna lose business. Uh maybe
that'll push them from the other side. Yeah, um, you know they're I talk a little bit in the book about you know, you mentioned about the the energy flow or blockage kind of be at the root of some diseases, and I do touch upon a bit a little bit of an overlap in terms of how modern Western allopathic medicine could be open to the possibility in a way because of you know this che going exercises where you you're feeling the energy
flow through your body. And I have a practice in there that's a daily thing, a daily practice just to kind of maintain your health. And notice if you have any blockages and try to get them to flow. And I think that absent some new detection, you know, new inventions of detection. The body itself is a detector of that. And I think that one area
that could be looked at is in the area of a microcirculation. So microcirculation is the the tiny littlest, littlest littlest vessels in all of your tissues where the blood cells go. And it's very well established within medical literature that if you if the microcirculation is decreased, that leads to tissue damage and disease, all kinds of diseases. And it hasn't been demonstrated. I'm I know that it happens, and I have a technique in the book where you can see
it happen. When you use your mind to do the Chi movement, you can influence the microcirculation in your body. Just that very fact it's very simple, again, not esoteric, it's just like, whatever does it. We know that through intention we can change microcirculation in our body. That's A to B. We know microcirculation increase, increases, how you know, decrease. Basically, the link between microcirculation and disease is very well established. With chigo,
you can establish intention and consciousness with microcirculations. So there's kind of an A to B B two C logic that I think, you know that could have some impact on changing their minds. Yeah, that's fascinating. I mean, you know, clinical studies obviously, devices that can penetrate the body and see the energy levels would be a huge innovation. It's just amazing. Let's talk about a chapter I think it's chapter three, psychic connections with loved ones
in distress. And I see this with examples of young children and their mothers. The mother just instinctively knowing that their childs in distress are having to prom but talk a little bit about this important energetic vibe characteristic that we seem to inhabit. Yeah, yeah, I think that many people have experienced this. I talk about a really great example of it in the book I when wrote
a book about it who was in you know, the West Coast. Her mother was in England and was dying, and she had an extreme case of that where she actually not just got a vibe or a feeling, but the vibe kind of manifested into the same kind of bodily reactions that her mother was going through at the real moments before her death. Inspired her to call her mother and get to say, you know, I love her before she died. So that's an extreme case. But the parent child the feeling that's that
something's wrong. You know, I've had that in my life, so you know, I don't think there's any question that that that folks have This question is how does that happen? Yeah, yeah, so you know, my best guests of course, you know, I'm not an expert on this at all, but I do put forth my best guests in the book, and that is it is about the level of which we are interconnected. So again, this is the superconscious mind where we are connected that we normally don't have
any access to. But I think that in this case because of the really important connection and the protective instinct kind of as a high level, you know, very parents very focused on being protective of their offspring and then the offspring being kind of in a dangerous situation. This is it kind of amplifies the Normally these signals is information are below even our subconscious mind perhaps, but whenever
they're a particular interest in protecting. And then there's also on the other end the is it kind of that fear that that's all the energy of fear that it kind of bubbles it up a little bit higher. And so there is that access to the information and again it comes through as a vibe, not as a clear sentence or description in this case, but like oh, this
feeling that something's wrong and wanting to reach out. So yeah, I think that that happens through our interconnectedness that's always there, but only on particular occasions for special reasons, it kind of peaks up into our awareness. Right. Talk a little bit about and you give some good examples and some some technique for enhancing your your vibes. Would you say that it is to have acute vibes is a critical not only survival technique, but in business and in everyday
situations. If you're going into a meeting you've never met someone before, uh, and if you can scan them, which we automatically do I think when we're with people, we don't you know, purposefully go hey who is this person? Then I'm going to scan them? It's just it all happens. Yeah. Uh, talk about that and talk about when we're aware of our vibes. Uh, these natural and stinctual abilities that we have to scan somebody and and why these are important attributes of being physical. Yeah. Yeah,
it's still complex. Um that that information that's gaining that we do, um, and and some of it again it's it's it's subconscious coming to us. Um. You know. This is that the part of it it's bubbling up to my mind right now is is the research that was done on on smells. The people that smell alike are better tend to be you know, end up being better friends. And you know, it was this is this is
a really fun research. They did controls to make sure that it wasn't that people became friends, and then they both both decided to go on, you know, a vegan diet and then they started smelling alike. They you know, they kind of did all the controls so that it was something that it comes up. It comes up first since causative Um, gosh, just so much about it, even the the these unconscious signals from the environment. You
talk about it in business. You know, another experiment I really liked is that if you have people walk into a room and there's a backpack sitting on the side, versus they walk into the room and there's a briefcase sitting on the counter. Now, this was done back, you know, a while back, whenever briefcases or something that was you know, synonymous with business. But it literally changed the way the people interacted in these tasks. They became
more competitive if there was a briefcase sitting next to them. Of course, this is not something that they consciously registered, but it's it's affecting them and giving them creating that, you know, changing the way they're interacting. Um, I think that you know, you want to you want to try to be you want to try to have a clean signal coming in to understand the
vibes of the folks you're interacting with. So in terms of preparation, you want to you know, you first get your own vibes on an even keel. You want to chill down a bit so that you can be really receptive and open and yeah, be perceptive rather than kind of going in there with you you know what, You've got something in your mind already, and then you know just knowing that some of it's going to be smells you don't even know about it. Some of it's going to be the way that they're projecting.
You know that their conscious vibe they're putting. And you also be aware that the conscious vibes can be manipulated. They can be deceptive. But a person can come in there with intentions that are evil and so then they but they put on a smiley face. So if you're able to tune in to feel the vibes that are below that, of course you're going to have advantage. Yeah, and the only the only thing I can say that can help for that is to chill your own vibes down first, so that then you'll
be able to be a more discerning vibe perceived. The book's called Why Vibes Matter, Understand your energy and learn how to use it wisely. And my guest today has been doctor Garrett Hunt. Garrett, we just talked about nature and how vital it is to be in nature as much as possible. Why do we and how do we use nature to recharge and reset our sensitivities. Yeah, I think that. I think that at least on two levels.
I think that on vibrational level, with at the energy level, we literally um balance our energies in our in our in our body by being in nature, by interact with nature on a on a quite physical level. And then I think on on another level, just the beauty and wonder of nature and comprehending on an inner, inner knowing way, our interconnectedness with nature and reality and understanding that you know, we're not actually just little meat machines running around
that are disconnected from everything. I think that's that can profoundly when we start well being and again be I guess more effective humans. As a vibe advisor, Garrett, would you say that when we go into nature, say like I try to get out every second or third day. I'm close to a park where I can hike for an hour just to get out and shut my brain off. Unfortunately, I'll bring my phone with me, which is a mistake not always. But what should we have an intention when we go into
nature to clear the day and receive nature? Talk about that, because I think it's a critical point that's not discussed enough, which is Yeah, great to walk in nature, you're going to get healing even if you're not aware of it. But doesn't isn't there tools we can use to enhance that nature walk that we do that really is a powerful healing Yeah, I think, yeah, you're exactly right. I think that the intention can make the efficacy
much greater. So as you say, if you just if you're if you're still got your monkey mind going on, you're walking around, you're on your phone, and you're thinking about future and past, you're still gonna you're gonna still seep in and get some some good vibes from nature. But if you set the intention to set aside the past and the future for a moment, that's going to be there. It's going to be available when you come back. But just sayone takes some time to be here now with nature, connect
and recharge. Just that just having that intention, I think really really increases the impact. And it's just important note don't beat yourself up if then half a minute into it you start thinking about, oh my gosh, am I gonna do this? And what about that? It's important to not judge yourself for that because everybody does it. It's always you know, I mean not that maybe there are some indepths that I haven't met, but it's going to happen. So when it happens, just say, oh, there it is,
I see. I know. Could you go you turn off work and you're have an active life and you have family and anything like that, and you go out in nature and you kind of want to leave that alone and let that sit back in the in the car. But you're right, you have if you're very active and very working on projects that are very energetically intense, that can come and fill your your mind quite quickly. Can it keeps popping back in there. But it's really important not to beat yourself up about
it because then it just makes it worse. Right, you just kind of notice it and then say okay, and then breathe out and get back get back to the nature zone. Yeah. Um, as we conclude, talk about the own meditation, how simple it is, and um, perhaps the benefits because I didn't, I mean, you give us a kind of an overview, but simple meditations can really do a lot. Ye, talk a little bit about that meditation. For those who are listening who don't meditate,
this is a great, a great Primmeter to meditation. Yeah, this is one of the well of the most common types of meditation is chanting the word om and what's it kind of has a double double effectiveness because slowing your breathing is just one basic technique that is really really good for chilling down your vibes and it you know, you can talk about it scientifically in terms of balancing the autonomic nervous system and all that, but suffice it to say, the
science is in slowing your breath is really really, really good for you. And so chanting kind of combines your automatically are slowing your breath, but it
combines it with this intention of of centering and quieting the mind. And you know, there are some esstary roots to the idea that this is, you know, a sound that's kind of one of the primal sounds of the universe, which you know you don't have to think about necessarily, but the idea of it's a very simple um chanting with you just follow your follow your breath and you just chant the word and as you you can feel it literally vibrates,
you can see vibrating your body, and you just tune into that vibration. You can you know everybody's experience is different of it. For me, I can feel that vibration that I can feel like connecting me with the vibrations in my environment, and you just feel like you're dissolving into the universe. It's a very that's a very cool. So that sounds like something that's more
private. You don't you're actually saying home to create the vibration. You're not thinking it, which I mean, I meditate and I use a mantra that has a similar sound that I used to drop down into very deep states. But what you're sugsing is go to a place where you can maybe say it quietly and and maybe close your eyes and feel the vibe. Yeah, I think vocalizing it it's very powerful. Garrett's been a pleasure for those of you
listening. Why Vibes Matter just came out. It's on available on Amazon and I imagine pretty much anywhere that you can get books. Talk us, Talk to us a little bit about what you're up to. Are you going to be speaking anywhere? Are you what's going on? Give us your website if you have one. Yeah, the website is noetic dot org so n o e tic dot org. And yeah, you can see the experiments that the whole team is up to on there. Right now, I'm setting up in
a telepathy experiment fund about the ball foundations. So we're going to bring folks in a lab and try to get evidence of telepathic communication, but not through the brain, through the enteric nervous system, so the gut brain. We're going to see if the gut wow telepathic signals, which is gonna be a lot of fun. So need to get that. Okay. Uh so you your your web pages on the Noetic science page. Yeah, yeah, okay,
excellent. UM on that subject of telepathy, do you guys cross over into the UAP kind of who are these guys flying in these vehicles that are being identified from as potentially off world ties because there's a there's a lot of language and a lot of thought that these guys are actually communicating with people telepathically. Do you ever follow any of that or is that just too far out of the um. We're we are doing an experiment with an individual, just
a brain. We're measuring brain waves of an individual who has a ability apparently to see into another dimension and information comes to there, including apparently extraterrestrial communicating to this individual. So yeah, we dip into that. So his vibe is very tuned U tuned up, and maybe he has a certain gift or a part of the brain that's been opened up to allow him conscious communication with something. Yeah, potentially, So that's why we're kind of can t take
a peek at the brainwaves. So are you going to be speaking anywhere in the near future any kind of other appearances that people can learn about. Yes. On August fourth, I'll be doing a webinar about the book, put on by Ions. So it's not if you go to needic dot org you'll be able to find the webinar on that and it's free to the public. Oh excellent. And so what is this. It's going to be technique or just kind of a overview of what the books about. And you might talk
a little bit about some the practices and things. Yep, I'm gonna I'll give an example. I'll give a demonstration and walk you through one of the practices. I haven't decided everything yet, but I'm going to give some kind of loopers, some deleted scenes, some stuff that well, beck I love no edic sciences like you guys are great fantastic. Hey, Garrett, much success on Why Vibes Matter. Again. I love the cover of this book and thanks for joining me. It was fun. Oh I enjoyed it too,
Thank you, Cliff. I love it when we can speak with scientists, people who are training our sciences. What you know, these subtle intuitive arts are these energetic healings, these energetic sensations, and a book called Why
Vibes Matter. It's very appropriate, you know, And I don't know if you would have seen a book like this ten years ago, twenty years ago from a scientist, a very rare scientist, I would say it's funny because Garrett mentioned energy medicine and years ago there were a number of mds, classically trained doctors who had studied energy medicine, and most notably doctor Norm Chiley and a guy who I traveled with in conferences, doctor Richard Gerber, who was
an internist, and I think it was the Michigan and they were really focused on incorporating subtle energy work with profound illnesses, cancers and generative diseases and things like that. I don't know how far they got. And you know, when Garrett's saying, you know, the industry's improving. I don't see it. I mean, I especially in corporate medicine like Kaiser or these big ms.
They they they don't have time to incorporate it. You know, maybe they'll give classes to nurses or the attending physicians or the administrative people who are meeting the public before they meet the doctor, think that they know how to incorporate vibrational healing into their practice. Because allopathy is looking at the body as a disease factory. It doesn't look at it from a healing or holistic perspective.
And this is the real downfall of corporate medicine, allopathic medicine. So, I mean, until we begin seeing programs where you know, people are entering a hospital for a procedure and they are asked about their emotional state and how they're feeling, you know, how they're getting along with their love ones, their relations so forth. Ands on getting a history like that, that's just not going to happen. And it's a whole that's the tip of the
iceberg too. It's not going to be in our in our generation. It's going to have to be much much later when there's profound changes. I hinted on a device that would scan the body for oric field dysfunction, breaks in the field chakras seven chakras, the oric field. There is um a camera that they can they can use right now to take a picture of the fingertips and the oric fields that are coming off the fingertips. Why they haven't expanded
that into the full body, we don't know. There's a lot of resistance too. You gotta remember, this is a multi billion dollar industry that promotes drugs, promotes necessary and unnecessary surgery. It's not really in many ways, it's not a very healing or holistic environment. And when you're faced with the loss of billions of dollars in unnecessary drugs, you don't want to give that up. Medicine is insane. It is so overwhelmingly expensive right now that you
know people who don't have insurance, they're in trouble. They're seriously in trouble. Why we don't have universal health has been a question on my mind for decades. Across the border in Canada they have it. In Europe, most countries do have it. It's your taxed. I would rather pay a tax for the healthcare than having to pay what we are paying now, which has gone insane. Those of you listening who are in the medical field, you
know exactly what I'm talking about. It is insane. And I have a lot of family and a lot of close friends that are in the medical field and great, great careers, but promoting health, no, managing health possible great with trauma. I think that the real failures are the degenerative diseases. Talking about cancer, it's a failure. The cancer industry is a failure.
And they don't want to be a they don't want to be winners. They don't want to be positive because they start you start taking away cancer, chemotherapy, radiation, surgery, You're talking billions of dollars that they don't want to know that. They want that money. That's their existence. So I don't know. I'm very hard on medicine because I am I've seen the effects of treatments firsthand. I've seen it effects of cancer. I've seen it with the
rheumatoid arthritis. They don't know what the hell they're doing. They don't understand the body. They understand it as a disease factory. How to stop the disease is the big bucks. How do we stop the disease? Well, why don't you look at a person's lifestyle, what's going on in the past, What was the history of the person leading up to the disease. I don't know. I don't have the answers, but what's going on right now is going to be looked at in the past, in the future as a
tragedy. Our medical system right now is a tragedy, you know. I mean, and I went in, I had a stint applied, and that was fine. But if I had a degenerate disease and I had to stay in the hospital a long period of time, I would be an unhappy person. If you are relegated to a hospital for a long period of time. It's not a healing place. It's really not. And there's a lot of people that are saying, once you get in, get the hell out as
soon as you can. There's a little dissertation hospital life. So all right, why vibes matter. It's been out now for a couple of months, and I would suggest getting it. It's a good primmer and there's some great techniques in there, and it's a place to start. Hey, and check out that free zoom video presentation that Garrett's gonna have in early August. I think that'd be very cool. I might do that myself. So something to
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