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Dr. Lydia de Leon: The Power of Sacred Location

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Geophilia is an institute dedicated to understanding the science of space harmonics. It links the invisible forces that govern Nature with our physical reality and propose ways to make them more coherent, healthier. And we all know that with healthy spaces always comes a wealthier approach of life. Sacred temples are located in sacred spots. Thus, there is a meaning, a potent meaning that connects the invisible with the visible forces of Nature. There is a link from the inside to the outside, from the big scale to the small scale. This link is fractality. The ability our Universe has to reproduce similar patterns across different scales. Biomedicine, Geophysics, and Architecture are standard parts of knowledge that are not integrated. But in our physical reality, they are! So we study them for an extended period and make them available to the vast majority of people that like you have been researching in different fields without finding a convincing answer. This may be a possible answer that can lead you to a new beginning.

A thousands myriad of opportunities open up as soon as the bird of knowledge and curiosity opens its wings to touch the sky and the earth. Through a series of books to come, you will walk with us on this journey and will be able to discover the Geophilia`s Spot. Learn how to locate them in your land, in your country, in our planet, in a similar way as ancient civilization did but now with the precious help of scientific measurements and very sensitive and advanced technology.

Lydia is a Greek Architect and Wellness Coach, with a focus on the relation of buildings on health and well-being. She holds a Ph.D. in Physiology on the subject of the effect on geophysical anomalies on biology and has published in peer-review journals and conferences. She has been researching for 15 years the relation of ancient temples and their location. She is the creator of Healing Architecture and cofounder of Geophilia Institute.

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Transcript

Speaker 1

Hey, Hi, how you doing? This is Cliff your host of Earth Ancients, and it is another program today very special for me personally because for years I've been talking about the ability to detect and acknowledge energetics, telluric energy,

geomagnetic energy from the interior of temples. And it's my belief that the previous civilization I'd sometimes call it Epoch in Egypt and Yucatan, or I should say miser America and Egypt and and other sophisticated cultures, understood Earth's natural magnetic and energetic sense fields and actually access them for both healing, for acknowledgment, or I should say, for cognition, spiritual growth and awareness, and for probably a number of

other functions that we're not familiar with right now. And what is happening is, and I've been told this for years by the Mayan elders that I worked with, is that there was a science, pyramidal science in Mesoamerica, likely in Egypt, physics, where the emissions from the Earth were understood, they were captured, they were able to manipulate them in such a way by placing stones, likely in a sacred geometry fashion, that excess that enhanced the energy that directed

the energy, and that this is a loss of science that we're just beginning to understand. And what is happening now with my guest today is science is finally not only acknowledging that these energies are produced, but beginning to measure not only how the emissions are rising into the surface of Earth, but how they passed through temples and how they were manipulated for a variety of uses. Now, we've had people on the program that have known about

this almost from the beginning of the podcast. Muhammed Ambraheem as a young man, as a child, almost spoke of people going to the Hathor Temple and other local temples on special days to feel to heal, to sit among the temples and be bathed in this energy. We hear also from various sensitives. We know that the anthropologist Mayan elder Carlos Bureros speaks great ideal about the energy of these temples in his book describing fifty five thousand pyramids

from Honduras to into northern Mexico and their activation. Now, why they were activated and what the purpose was we're not familiar with. We'd have no clue. We're only at the cusp of understanding who the hell the Maya were, let alone how their technology work. But it's been my hope for along for a long time, almost from the inception of this podcast, that we need to acknowledge and recognize that the previous civilization understood earth emissions in a

way that we don't now. Chris Dunn called the previous epoch the builders of the Great Pyramid chiops at the Gizu Plateau, environmental scientists. In other words, they were brilliant, and they understood how to use these energies, how to cut grantite in a way that we don't understand, likely developing a number of different sciences that are gone to have not been left to us, that were applied for

everything from healing to sciences and medicine. And I don't know the sky's the limit when it comes to these energies. We have never found a device that captures and measures

energy from any of these ancient civilizations. And it seems to me that it could be that people were trained who are acknowledged to be sensitive or tested to be sensitive as a young people, and then trained to enhance that sensitivity so that they could they could tell when an area was producing these tuleric energy fields, or could acknowledge the strength and the power, and like an architect or an engineer construction engineer, show and place and create

what we consider today blueprints on how to build over these tulerk energy fields and enhance them. Now, I have always wondered how the Maya and why they might built their pyramids, and we know now that they are built up on the interior using magnetic stones like a granite and an igneous rock that has a lot of crystal in it. That was purposeful because they energy from these tilleric fields would rise up into the interior of these pyramids.

This magnetic rock would greatly enhance that energy, and then it was dispersed out of the top or out of the sides. We don't really know, We can only guess. We know that John Burke in the early two thousands measured pyramids like the World Pyramid at Tikal and discovered that the energy was of such a great force that if it was directed correctly, not only would it enter the atmosphere for some reason, but it could also lightly

power things. Now we don't know what that means to this day, archaeologists refute that the Maya had the wheel in the face of knowledge, the knowledge that there are toys with wheels, the Mayan toys that have wheels, and that there are instruments that have wheels, measuring instruments and things like that, and so that's kind of going out the window. But remember, and we hear this from doctor Edwin Barnhardt, we don't know a damn thing about the Maya.

We have barely one percent of our known knowledge from the few decipherments that we have been able to put together and the four codices that are in our possession. So I'm hoping for the day where we find more data on what the Maya we're using the pyramids for. But I can tell you personally that I have climbed a number of pyramids that are attributed to the Maya, and they're engineering, and can say factually that they are producing some form of energy. And I'm very, very sensitive

to what these energies are all about. So we're going to talk about not only temple construction today, but also how these energies affect us on a physiological level. On a physiological level, that is, how it affects our organs, How it affects our brain, how it affects all the functions that we as biological beings deal with every day. What is it that our ancestors knew that we didn't. Why are these pyramids so important? There are so many

undiscovered pyramids in Mexico. It's mind boggling. Every time somebody runs a scan, a light hour scan of a region that was not well known, it typically turns up my pyramids. I mean they're everywhere in Mexico, everywhere. Why why did they build pyramids? Why did they build pyramids in Egypt and other parts of the world, And what were they trying to capture by placing them over to lark Fields.

So today, for me, is a turning point in our understanding of Tileric energy, our understanding of how it's enhanced by temples, pyramids and sacred sites and buildings. And my guest today is doctor Lydia DeLong. In today's program is the power of sacred location. Hey, I want to remind you that we have a tour coming up in March

of next year, March fifteenth through the twenty third. We have a spot left and I'm mentioning this because this is a rare opportunity to join Ed Barnhardt and a small group of a about twenty people in a tour, very unusual tour that takes us across the island of Rapanui, which is otherwise known as Easter Island, for a week of exploration and journey in areas that we don't that people typically don't visit. And we got a spot left.

We probably could take a couple, We could take two more people like a couple, married couple, or just a couple of any kind on this tour. For more information go to Earthacients dot com, forward slash tours. It's the only banner, it's the Easter Island banner that you can click on. You can see our entire itinerary all the details once you have registered, that is it. You are the last person or persons to join us. And this is a special tour and will take us to areas

that are very rarely seen by the general public. So again, March fifteenth to the twenty third, twenty five it's the Rapa Nui or Easter Island Tour. For more information go to earth Ancients dot com, forward slash tours. I am really excited today. You know, I'm constantly talking about the temples, the pyramids, the ancient structures that are sitting on top of geomagnetic anomalies around the world. I'm fascinated by the Maya.

I've been to Egypt many many times, and there is something going on there that is not being discussed, and not enough regarding why these places were placed over these energy fields, and not just that if each of these locations had a specific purpose. Now, I've been to Egypt a number of times and talked about the various temples there. We've had Mohammed imbrahem On talking about the temple at Dendera, that's the Hathorpe Temple, how it was used as a

birthing center and also to increase energy. But today we have a specialist somebody who has written a fabulous book called The Power of Sacred Location. Her name is doctor

lydia Leon. She is a Greek born holistic architect. She holds a PhD in geobiology, and this book is fabulous on a number of different levels, simply because it takes our thoughts are thinking of you know, there's something going on here, because if we're sensitive, we can feel it, and actually provides us with practical information on just why they would place, why the ancients would place temples or pyramids over these sacred locations, and the benefits of these

temples and pyramids. So Lydia, welcome to Earth the Ancients. Great to have you on the program.

Speaker 2

Thank you so much, Cliff, so appreciate all your work and thank you for the invite.

Speaker 1

When did you first become aware of temples and other buildings placed on these sacred locations?

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I am originally from Greece, and that means that I grew up in an environment that really everywhere you have temples, and growing up, I always had this curiosity on when they were built exactly this way, why this geometry, why this location and not any other location, And all this got really triggered in a positive way when I had like a profound experience when I was eighteen.

So I had just entered architecture school in Athens, and then the person the professor that was teaching a history of architecture in our university is and also was at that time and it's still the responsible for the renovation of the Partenent, And so I had the extreme honor that at that time I was not so u ral to actually enter inside the Parthenon, which is not allowed. I'm talking like inside the temple exactly. And so what happened at the time that I didn't know what I

know today. I just remember this that I went up the few steps that you have to enter the interior of the temple, and I literally felt that I entered an upper world. And I could not explain that with words. There was no description to say what I'm feeling. And I was inside and I was just looking all around three sixty and I was like, I just came through few steps. Why does that feel so different from just a few meters out to just in the inside. And

it was so profound. It's just really catalyzed, really what was happening after in my life? That was really profound. And from there I just started going deeper and deeper on the subject until I also moved to a new apartment and I got very sick, and later I realized that my bed was placed over underground water. So then

I said, I'm going to read everything. I'm going to do trainings on this issue of location and Joe biology, and I ended up doing a PhD where there I discovered drawing maps all around the world looking at how different temples of different backgrounds. It didn't matter if it's pyramids or stone circles or or you know, whatever name it. They were placed on these different kinds of anomalies, and I was really mind blow So that's kind of the short version.

Speaker 1

It's an interesting revelation. You're obviously sensitive, and when you were walking in the Parthenon, you felt a surge of energy. I had the same thing happened to me when I this is a long long time ago, when I was at Chichen Itza and climbed the El Castillo, which is the main pyramid, stood on the top there and got hit with a wave of pulsating energy. It was so powerful that I had to sit down for a few minutes before going back down. And I to that day.

It has been something that I wondered about, and then here we are with his book, you know, telling us all about it. What is the definition of g you call it geophilia? What is that?

Speaker 2

Geophilia is our company with our Turo we do all kinds of different things. So we have both holistic architects, so we design healing spaces. We are recreating the temple technology from all the research that I've done implementing sacred geometry, and also we do research, so we continue our research on the temples. We have a whole protocol developed with interdisciplinary protocol with different measurements to have more input from that.

We have education. We have online courses for different things including temple sacred geometry. So it's like a whole platform that we have created with you know, twenty years of my experience and twenty over our turo meaning geo Aphiliaphilia in Greek means love and friendship. There are like different kinds of words for love in ancient Greek and jail.

Of course it is the earth. So we like to think that we do the work that we do, you know, for the love of the earth, for having a better planet, and of course helping humanity increase consciousness.

Speaker 1

That's your company. It's funny that you mentioned love because I read in a number of passages in your book that you believe that this anomalist anomalist energy is love energy, uh, and that the ancients consider that Gaia or Earth's loving the human creation. Right.

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely, and there is since many decades there is a term that many people use which is called geopathic stress and geopathy in the Greek because these are Greek roots. Pathos means when you are like suffering, when there is something bad happening, and so too for me to like give a name to a location that is giving out all the negative aspect that for me doesn't given a real description of what is going on. Because, as I explained in the book and also in the courses that

we have, it's all about the do sarch. So it's the same place, the same anomally, the same geopathic stress can be used for healing and can be used for really having problems in our health, which I went through. So it's all about the do search and the amount we are receiving.

Speaker 1

Wonderful you mentioned one of my fans, Paul Devereuxe in your book, who was the founder of the Dragon Project in England, and one of the things that he did was begin to measure and test energy coming out of stone circles, standing stones, domen and things like that. Do you believe that it is his belief that the Neolithic people were very sensitive to this energy and this is where they placed their circles and their standing stones. Talk about that, sure?

Speaker 2

Sure? Part is also a good friend. I visited him a long time ago, and he was very supportive of all my work, which is in a way continuation of what he was doing in a way, It's just that I've tried to put a lot of different pieces of the puzzle. At least I think I tried, you know, as much as I could to give like a more holistic perspective. But I love Poll's work. And one I'm not sure about, since you mentioned it, is I am not sure whether these stone circles were built by Neolithic people,

but that's another big story. What I do believe for sure is that people were more sensitive, and there are a number of reasons for that. First of all, the magnetic field of the health was higher, and for people that maybe don't know about it, and this is just mainstream physics, the magnetic field has been going down, like it's being reduced, and there are cycles, so this is not that only now it's happening. There are cycles, and

this actuates us. Everything in the universe. There is an in and out, and there is a breathing in and a breeding out, and so at those times, even if you talk one thousand or two thousand or even more like more thousand years ago, the magnetic field would have been higher, so the anomalist would be stronger, and so

it would be easier to feel it. But also imagine that at those times we didn't have artificial EMF, so our bodies, in my opinion, they were not so congested with all this artificial EMF, and so it was far easier when you walked over an area to just feel

that there is an anomaly there. Although I do believe that a lot of these ancient civilizations really did have some advanced form of technology, and we're not sure about what exactly, but I do believe that because there are things that are impossible to be done without this incredible technology.

Speaker 1

What do you think of the great pyramids in Giza Plateau, like the Cufu Pyramid, which people like Chris Dunn think is a big machine of some kind. When I when I go inside the King's chamber, there's and you're sitting on the ground, there's a definite buzz, right, and we don't know. I think someone believes that there's standing under a lay line of some kind an energy pocket. What is your what is your belief on the gusts?

Speaker 2

So, firstly, I believe there was a worldwide grid in the past that included the temples, and I believe the temples were used for different functions. It's not only one. I really think one of them was also for energy generation, and I think that's what Tesla tried to recreate and that's why they kind of disappeared him. Right. So the great p I mean is sitting above an enormous network

of aquifers. And that's what I explained in also in the book and in the online courses that when you have water heating specific rocks, especially the ones that are higher in chalk, you create the water actually creates electricity. The water through the friction with the rock actually creates electricity and the water is left positively charged and then the ground is negatively charged. And so this is what is the battery or the power source of all ancient temples.

And the lot have different because I also get that question a lot. So sometimes it's a radioactive area, sometimes it's an underground fault. I have examined a lot of temples in Greece and Turkey, and almost all of them stayed over a fault. And the question is how did they know? And the second question I was asking is why would they pick fault lines if they knew it's a seismic fault that can destroy the temple? Right, that

doesn't make sense. But back to the Great Pyramid. What we have is an enormous our source in the bottom, and then you have an outside layer of limestone that is insulating. These are the casing stones. Then you have the inner layer of the lime salt that is a conductive type of limestone, and then the King's chamber is all made out of solid granite. And granite has a

few very particular properties. Firstly, it's slightly radioactive. Second, it's pioso electric because it has a very high content of silica. And for people that are new with that, piezo electricity has two qualities to it. First of all, it means that it can store charge and second, when it's under pressure. Wait, maybe you mean like some million blocks that are setting already, right, that's it. So when it's pure, it creates, it generates

electricity by itself. So internally in the Great Thera, I mean we have a very intense anomally. We have an electromagnetic anomally that is caused by a lot of different things. It's also the geometry, it's also the pertions. It's a lot of different things that it's literally taking all the electricity from the ground and it's accumulating and concentrating it over the top. And then it's all accumulated. Of course, it's insulated so it doesn't leak out in the outside.

That's why they put the casing stones with an insulating material, and so it's condensed in the center. And then most probably I don't have proof for that, so I like to be open when there is no specific proof. But I think there was a gold capstone in my opinion, and so some of this energy was released on the top. In my opinion, the chamber of this Great Pyramid, which I believe is really very old thousands of years like you know, nothing to do with what classical archeologist say.

My personal belief through different different points that go to point there. My belief is the Great Pyramid is thirty six thousand, six hundred b C. There is years old, yeah, one thousand and six hundred BC.

Speaker 1

So that would get that number from.

Speaker 2

And it's a lot of different factors that you know, it can take a lot of time to get there, but there is a more precise astronomical alignment of the orion belt at that time. Also, the Nile would have flown exactly in the front of the Pyramids, which I think that's how it was. That's why you have the causeways that go exactly there. And there are a few other parameters that lead to that. Of course, I'm not claiming that, you know, I'm absolutely sure about it, but

that's where it leads to. And of course all the work of rubber Shock and many other people. There is such an immense erosion in both the Pyramids and also the Sphinx, and that would have been only possible if it went through floods and cataclysms, which we do know that before nine thousand BC there was no such thing because there was always desert solar But thirty six thousand and six underd BC also coincides with the time of Leo.

I do believe the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid complex were built at the same time, and I do believe they are built from the same architects.

Speaker 1

Wow, amazing. So you believe the Great Pyramid was some kind of an energy producing device.

Speaker 2

Well, it has many different functions. I did. I did a whole kind of course with Jade Shaw that she's teaching astra projection, and I was explaining that one of the functions is an initiation to our body experiences. I'm absolutely sure about that because there's so much research that when you enter this kind of geophysical anomalist and electromagnetic anomalists, there are microcisures that are created in the right templar robe. And now I would like people to think why these

two areas here are called temples. I don't think that's acids, and so what happens is these my procedures really create experiences that are called mystical experiences visions, and some people have detachment just by that. So I really think it was an initiation chamber to really leave the body. It's

a near death experience if you like it. So people would understand what happens through death and all that and understand that there's something bigger and many other things that it's a lot to cover for today, But that was for sure one of the functions. Another function I do

believe the pyramid had was for energy generation. And there are many scientists that say in Russian scientists that didn't like they did a three d model mainstream scientists from a university in Russia, and the conclusion literally says, the Great Pyramid is designed in such a way to accumulate electromagnetic energy. So they put the materials there, geometry and everything, and so this is absolutely one function that is there.

And then I think there are more. As I mentioned before, I think they used it because when you create a bioactive field, you can use that for healing. For example, it's like a modern dioresonance device. All the work of Rife and all his predecessors, and also when you build it the pyramid like that with different layers of I really would like people to remember that of insulator capacity or insulator and all that you create what Rife was doing with orgone. So it's like also an organized chamber,

and this is just physics. He knew how to manipulate ether energy, which we know exists, which the ancients knew it exists, and they knew how to tackle into that. So the pyramid had another effect apart from everything else, which was earth energy, its own electromagnetism through its materials, the celestial alignments, plus the tackling into the ether, the quants of the vacuum, as Nasimharman calls it.

Speaker 1

Wow. I don't know if you've if you've heard of Carlos Boreros. He's a Mayan elder who wrote a book on the Ancients. He passed away during COVID, but he was told that at its height, there were fifty five thousand Mayan pyramids from the Yucatan all the way down to Honduras that were pumping energy into the atmosphere, and only a few of those are functioning now. He said that there were probably about five thousand that are still left.

He doesn't give a date. But one of the things I was curious to know from you is that we know that Tesla was trying to do something like that with the Wardencliffe Tower in New York, but it was stopped because it meant free energy, right, and we don't. We want to pay for everything. But what would you say, Because you're in Mexico right now, you've probably studied some of these places like Tebo Tewa Khan, the Sun and

Moon Pyramid. We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, doctor Lydia DeLong discussing her new book, The Power of Sacred Location, will be right back.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

My guest today is doctor Lydia di Leon. She has a degree in physiology, an interest in how toleric energy affects biology, affects our body of mind and spirit. And it's really the beginning of what I believe is a field of inquiry on how our ancestors use energy in temples, in pyramids to enhance their lives. I believe the Maya were extremely sophisticated. The elders, the old ones talk about a bit about their pyramid concepts and energy.

Speaker 2

Sure, in my opinion, we still more very little about the Mayans. I think we are very far from discovering what the Mayans really were, how advanced they were. And I will add to that, and I do believe the same for the Incas. I do believe that there are structures that they didn't build and they remodeled. So there are two different things. As we see, for example, in Peru, you see layers of walls and there are some ones

that it's obvious they are pre cataclysmic. To me, at least, it's obvious they are moved with another kind of technology and bended and melted in some way which we don't even have any knowledge of how to do that today. And I think it's the same with the Mayans, and so I do think they were far more advanced, and I do think they were given all this knowledge from the previous civilizations that were even more advanced than them, and they were folding and they were keepers of that wisdom.

So I think we have a lot to learn still from the Mayans and discover it. For example, there are some curious things about telty Wa Khan. Normally knows who built Tehoti Wa Khan, because the Aztecs say that when they arrived there, the pyramids were already there, so we

don't actually know who built them. What we do know is that the widths of the Sun Pyramid or the Great Pyramid if you'd like, Interniva Kan has almost the same weight as the Great Pyramid in Egypt, and it has half the height of the Great Pyramid in Egypt, and it has exactly the same alignment of orion. So if you ask me, as an architect, I would just say this is designed and built by the same architect.

He just left his signature there. It's really obvious. And so telty Wa Khan is built with volcanic material, which is really really used in different ways in temples around the world because it has the power to create this electromagnetic field and it's it's highly conductive. Also, telty wak And is also built over underground aquifers. And all the indigenous elders that are the wisdom keepers of Tetiya Khan, they have told me and we know that's there, and

I talked. I had an interview with the main archeologist of tootyo A Khan last year and she told me Lydia, only ten percent of what Tetiko Khan is has been excavated. We don't even know the rest ninety I was shocked. I didn't even know about that. I knew it was bigger, but I had no idea that there is a remaining ninety percent that is unexcavated. So imagine what lies there.

We have no clue. It's the same with Egypt. I think we don't know what lies under the sand because we don't allow people to do, you know, scans and measurements. They'll say, now that we're discovering thousands of pyramids and what the malaine in Yukatan in Brazil like everywhere, because the jungle has taken over everything. But there is so

much to be discovered. It's just that globally there is this direction of this knowledge needs to be suppressed, and this is what we need to break through in our time. I think this is the time. That's why we have so manazing people like you and others bringing out this knowledge to people, because it's the time for bringing that knowledge back and helping people awaken. And Tesla wanted to do exactly that. That's why in his writings he says that you have to grip the earth if you want

to create this wireless technology. And his wonder Cliff Tower was built over and aquifer, and he also used secre geometry. He said, you cannot use any random geometry. You have to use specific geometry if you want to do this free energy. And in my opinion, I think also this world Temple grid that was energy greed was also there and that of course I don't have scientific proom because I like to really distinguish where there is scientific proof.

I just have, let's say the intuition or the theory, but I really have a deep feeling that this world temple grid was also keeping the planet in a higher frequency. And I'm very passionate it's like one of my missions

to help reactivate that. So that's why we do tempor retreats and we activate the temples again, and well that to also we are, you know, designing new temples that have all this ancient technology at least to our best knowledge of today, because the battery research cliff the temples, and I'm sure you're you're come from the same for yourself. The more complex I see things.

Speaker 1

Are, Yeah, talk real briefly Lydia about why you think there's a resistance to this knowledge by perhaps the archaeological community. You think that they just believe it's too much pie in the sky unvalidated data. Or is it just because they're using the scientific and they can't measure it using the current tools of their field.

Speaker 2

That's a very good question, and there are many ways to the answers of that. I think if we really dive inside the rabbit hole, I think there is behind as people. There are other people and other people, and I don't even know who is behind and behind all that, but there is like this agenda of blocking this knowledge from coming through. I don't think we have a lack of archaeologists in terms of their mind, you know, open minded it. I don't think we have lack of instruments.

It's just that, For example, I tried to take a permit to do measurements in Greece and for four or five years I couldn't take it. Why I'm not even touched any monument. I'm just going there with a portable device and I'm measuring different fields. Why shouldn't that be

not only allowed, but actually funded. And we're trying to get funding for all that, and we want to you know, expand these article that I've created with the whole team of people and professors to make measurements around the world and see what is really going on in these temples. Why is that not funded from the governments? This is

kind of things that we should fund. And how can we replicate all these ancient technology to create modern healing spaces so instead of you know, taking a bag of pills that have all these sie effects, we can have more natural ways of healing which the ancients had. So I think there are a lot of different things that are being suppressed for a reason. And I have said that before because this is a question that I get

asked a lot. But I don't believe that, you know, all this is for are bad or you know, they'll want to hurt us or whatever. I personally think that this is a test. As a humanity, we're being tested and it's something we need to break through to the other side, kind of.

Speaker 1

A karma that were passing through. We just gotta breakthrough this resistance.

Speaker 2

Yes, that's what I believe, and I believe like when even in a normal game, you know, like an online game or whatever, to go to the next level, you have to pass the test, right, you have to kill the monster or whatever that is. It's just another test, and humanity has gone through several of them for thousands and thousands of years, and actually we do go through them individually in our lives. We know when we're going to have a breakthrough because we're going through a challenging time.

So we are going through really challenging times in our world, I think, with many different things going on. But it's the time also a great awakening, and I see happening at the same.

Speaker 1

Time, you feature John Burke's work in your book, which is fantastic, and he did not only did he do geoglyphs and earth mounds in around the world, but he actually he actually did pyramids. I think he did the Great Pyramid, but he also did a world a famous pyramid in to called Lost World Pyramid, which they was built six hundred pc. I think it was built before that, but that's.

Speaker 2

What I before. I don't agree with a couple of things with John, but i'mscinated by his work. I think his work is one of the kind no one has gone to that extent to put all the data that he put together with that kind of dedication. I really admire it. But for example, I don't agree that all

the temples were just made to activate seeds. I think that was one of the functions, and I think one major function was to allow people to have alter states of consciousness, because when you have that, you can have really answers to issues. And when you are let's say, a ruler of a country or of a place and you don't know what to do, you can have these downloads. You can be given clear answers from an outer state or for people that are facing physical issues, you can

have healing. And of course abundance of food is like the base if you want to have a society that thrives. If people are hungry, you know, everything collapses. So Ticar is actually one of my favorite places. We were here there actually in Whatatemala. We did a whole trip this March on the Equilox, which is also my birthday, and we're doing for anybody interested. We're doing a Whatatemala Retreat, a tempor retreat next year twenty twenty five in March.

There is no link yet online, but we're going to release it very soon. So Whatatemala is just incredible. It's full of mine and wisdom, and the Ticar Pyramids have such a powerful energy. I was not expecting that level. When I will share with you, I slept in the hotel that is just next to the temples and I couldn't sleep all night. Cliff intense was wide organized. Wow, it was crazy, one of the most intense experiences for me. Because remember what I mentioned, these places are they have

to be used in moderation. It's not to live there, it's to visit the place. Have the hormetic effect, which is a small dosage of the field of the whole field, and the whole field is not just the earth field. It's the geometry, it's the fractality of the temple, it's the celestial alignments, it's the materials. It's always different things

that create the temple technology, which is very intense. And I think in Ti Cal is very much alive and it's really active there, and my goodness, like I couldn't get a mint sleep. I was just I would like hire on drugs without taking anything literally, just from the energy of the place.

Speaker 1

Do you think that that Let's just talk about the Last World Pyramid, because that's the most famous one that Burke talks about. Sure you think that has it's creating a residence field around it. So if you're standing on the ground, you're gonna get bathed. If you walk up the stairs, you're gonna get bathed. If you go to the top, which a lot of people do, and this is where John made his measurements, you're also being bathed. I think you're right. The Corner season is just the

last vestiges. I think it probably had a much more sophisticated purpose. But do you think it's creating that field that I'm that I'm suspecting.

Speaker 2

Absolutely absolutely, and that field is fed around the pyramid, absolutely, but it concentrates to its its maximum in the peak because a pyramid shape, I'm just talking about the shape forgetting about anything else. The shape itself is created to make that effect, and that has been measured in many different ways, you know, having airborne measurements above and you literally see involves like there is a huge voltage in the in the peak of these mounds and pyramids around

the world, and even in natural ones. And that's why many ancient civilizations, including Mayans, including you know, the indigenous North Americans, and even we have mounds in Europe, you know, artificial mounds like Silberry Hill in the UK. It has exactly that effect, and people were going after it and they wanted to create that accumulation and concentration of electromagnetic energy because they were using it for all these different reasons.

Speaker 1

Talk a little bit about how our tissue acts like a semiconductor and when we are these ancient societies understood that earth energy connects can connect with the physical body not only for healing, but for opening consciousness. Talk about that.

Speaker 2

Yes, so our body has many different properties that really make it a perfect conductor of electricity, and so it's it's some people may have of course, know that we have iron and your brow that's super conductive, and we are made of you know, sixty seventy percent of water,

which that's very conductive. So then we have magnetite in our brain, we have magnetite in the f oil which is inside our nose in the upper part, and we also have in our ears, and there are many different things that literally make us a perfect antenna in many different ways, apart from the fact also that the service communicate in between them through electro magnetism, and the nervous

system is all built, you know, on electromagnetic energy. So we are electromagnetic beings firstly and secondly chemical because the electromagnetic problems are the ones that create the care molecules. If there aregnotism and will not have any chemical molecules. So if anyone is still you know, wondering, we are absolutely electromagnetic beings and that's why health is foremost electromagnetism.

And of course this electromagnetism can be affected by different things external and internal, including our thoughts and emotions, you know, can change the pH and the pH is also potential of hydrogen. It all has to do with potential of negative ions. So it's all about electricity at the end.

And the ancients they knew that, and so for them it was really important to create spaces where you could go in and you could have what we call alter states of consciousness, which now are being studied by you know, science, even more like what happens to the brain waves when people have out of body experiences and all this is

studied different organizations, which is fantastic. But these ancient civilizations they knew, so they would create perfect spaces to have access to these alter states through the process that I mentioned before, through these micro seizures. Actually it's mentioned that the ancient Shamans they called that the sacred disease because they knew that through these micro seizures you could have some access to alter states, and so it was cherished in a way.

Speaker 1

How do you believe the ancients tuned these temples to capture the specific frequencies we're going to get into the t you call them the ten geophysical anomalies. I want to get into the specifics of that in a second. But I was mentioning Mohammed embrhim describing hathor temple at Dendera and how it was made for women who are with child or for people that had problems getting pregnant. Yes, and other situations, other physical problems. Do you I mean

they must have. I mean was it because they were just they had one or two people that were very sensitive to it? Or is it technology based where they can measure it and understand that this area had a fissure, had a geomagnetic anomaly that was perfect for a specific type of healing.

Speaker 2

Okay, so almost earth electricity can be used, as I said before, for different functions. So the same way has been proven through John Burke's work, which is amazing and also has been replicated with modern technology that we have. For example, they verify and we have used with our to terrify for different reasons, which is called plasma technology with sacred geometry. Together, we know that a perfectly cohesive electromagnetic field can help create life, which is what John

Burke worked on. And he saw that when he exposed seeds in this really coherent electromagnetic field in the pyramids, he had far higher yield and the plants were you know bigger and all these measurements that he did, it's exactly the same because when you have a spermanent overary, for that to happen and for an embry to be created,

you need a perfect implosive electromagnetic field. So it just makes sense that when you have like a super ultra coherent electromagnetic place, which is a temple, this is what sacred space is. By the way, if we're decoding, you know, for any one of that thinks this is just a new age phrase, what it means is just perfectly implosive electromagnetic energy. This is what a sacred space is.

Speaker 1

Uh.

Speaker 2

And it has a perfect distribution also, which happens through fractality, and this is exactly what this temples deal So of course at the new soul coming out.

Speaker 4

Because you like the first seconds after the birth, you know, the first seconds that the baby's coming out is received in this super harmonic cohesive field, so that will be the best support for its health and its well being.

Speaker 1

Wow, we don't have we don't have enough time to go through the whole book, but I will definitely have you back. We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly with my guest today, doctor Lydia de Leon, coming to us from Mexico City, and we'll rejoin you shortly. My guess today is doctor Lydia di Leone. She is one of a growing number of scientists who are studying the effects of teleric energy or temple energy on biology,

on the physiology of human beings. It's an important contribution to the future of humanity. You identify ten geophysical anomalies, which of the ten would you say is the most beneficial to physiology or are they all beneficial?

Speaker 2

So the important thing to understand here is that there is no one anomaly that is more beneficial from the other. But the difference is first of all, as I mentioned, the dosearch So people ask me many times, oh, do I build my house as a temple. My answer is no by no means, because the temple has such a such an intense field that you don't want to be exposed to it every day. It's the phenomenon of hormesis. In the long term, if you sleep over these anomalies,

which is what happened to me, people get sick. You have autoimmune things, you have cancers, you have cardiovascularities are the three main things that happen when somebody is on a long term exposure on these anomalies. What happens, though, is when you build a temple over there and you create this perfect implosive field with the same way many

people maybe have heard of structuring water with sacred geometry. Well, when you create a temple with the high level of fractality and sacred geometry and all these alignments, you create a very highly harmonic field. You take the field of the earth and you make it even more harmonic and fractal, and that of course promotes on the short term, promotes healing, creates our party experiences, creates initiation, creates like downloads if

you like it. In simple words, you activate seeds. And that's why John Berg found out something that we have also replicated with more than devices. If you mean the seeds too long, they die. He couldn't he couldn't germinate them anymore. So there is an optimum dose for these fields. And I would dare say maybe there are some very advanced beings that can take that field permanently, but I feel for most of us as humanity, we are not there. Yet so we can have that as a horr medical effect.

So we go there and then we come back to a horrum or a living space that is more neutral. Yes, we can use sacred geometry and other things, but it has to be less intense. And that's why you see all the crazy intri cred complex design of the ancient temples, because they we're creating this high level of fractality. So any type of your physical anomaly will have the effect

of giving the power source to the temple. And then the design of the temple is made to expanded amplified structure and make a very coherent implosive field.

Speaker 1

Wonderful. I believe that both the ancient Egyptians in the Maya use electromagnetic fields to store information and buildings. I always say that I believe somebody from MIT and the United States is going to build some kind of scanning device that can pick up the information. But what is your belief of that theory? And if they did that, what type of energy would they use to imbue into the crystalline granite of a temple.

Speaker 2

Yeah, very interesting question, Cliff. I think that here we are talking about what we call the physics of information and we are just starting to understand that. So there is physics of quantity, meaning things we can measure. Oh, this electromagnetic field is three bolts, Okay, this is a quantity. What information is it carrying? Because this is a carrier wave, and on top you can superimpose geometrical fields, informational fields.

It's all all these different things that for example, for people that maybe have heard of it, this is how homeopathy works because if you analyze a homeopathic pill, you will not find any physical residue of anything. What is it carrying?

Speaker 1

Then?

Speaker 2

And it helps heal by the way, I was healed for severe things when I was three years old and no classical medicine could help me, and homeopathy helped me and help me heal because it's carrying information. So I think temples, apart from all the other functions that we talked about, I do think there are the wisdom keepers and the priests that were there or the people that were carrying that knowledge. They made sure to inscribe it in a quantum way in the field of the temple.

But I'm not sure that we have the technology to access that yet. We're just starting to understand the scal wave technology that for example, Tesla was using, which are the non herzane waves, there are the longitude inal scalar waves. Are just getting there with some kind of technology to be able to read that, but we're not there yet.

So for now, I think the only way to access that would be, you know, intuitively, literally asking for the field to give us the information or the wisdom up to the level that we are ready for.

Speaker 1

Interesting on that note, give me the the the elders just the second clip. I Yeah, the elders that I have been with in Mexico talk about reactivating temples, and you mentioned that earlier that you were actively. How do you go about doing that? Is it through some kind of intention or is it something else?

Speaker 2

So we do that for anybody listening. We do that four times a year in a free event. It's on equinoxes and solstices, because that's also an electromagnetic portal. No, it's not just an esoteric thing, it's also a physical magnetic thing, and we weave. This is an onligne event. You can participate and we do activation of a twelve

temple grid planetary grid. So we pick temples every time that resonate with that specific energy of the equinox and then we do that or on our physical retreats like in Injiet, in Gatemala, in Greece, in different places, and

that's literally bringing the temple in its original frequency. So it's like a deep meditation that I guide with the whole group, and it's bringing together the connection of the temple to the Earth, the connection of the temple to the sky, the connection of the temple to the core to its zero point, and bringing all that into alignment. So that's the wa I go about it. Maybe there are other people that can do it in their own way,

but that's that's what has been given to me. This is how I feel about it, that this has just been given to me. I don't think this is something I, you know, I found out about and through the work

of you know, the research through the temples. This is what I have discovered, that the temple is there to be a junction between the Earth and the sky literally also physically, electromagnetically, not just you know, spiritually speaking or informationally speaking, and so creating that junction again and also reconnecting temples in between them, you know, reactivating the grid.

It's also really important. So we start with one temple, and then we start the connections with other temples, and eventually, you know, we can cover the whole planet if we can, and the more people we have, the better. This is something, This is my mission. I feel. I'm very happy to always do that with people, either online or physically different places.

Speaker 1

I love that. You know, you're in Mexico and they are constantly uncovering new Mayan cities. Uh, they just found one in uh close to to call not to call to Tuloom, Yeah, in Yucatan. So you're saying that to reactivate it you, I mean, you're going there. The site is kind of not functioning anymore. Are you intending? Is this this? Is this a ritual I intend for you

to restart? Or is it just a group of shamanic rituals and perhaps incense burning that somehow aligns the conscious I mean, I kind of believe there's a consciousness there, yes, but talk about that, talk about consciousness and buildings.

Speaker 2

Sure, First of all, I think Earth has its own consciousness. I believe Earth is a beaning the same way we are being. And the Emerald Tablets of Thought say that very clearly. They say, you know, the same way you are a soil incarnated in a physical body. The same way there is a soil being called Gaia or Earth, and she has her physical body. So we are tapping in the beridiums of the earth in that way and activating that grade. So of course, all these places, these

sacred places, these sacred locations, have their own consciousness. And we also have to remember that not only there is the sacred place created by the temple itself, but it's also embedded with all the rituals, the meditations, the initiations that have taken place there or were most probably in many of these places thousands or thousands of years, and so the fear that is created there actually can be measured.

We have some devices that we do so many years ago when I first started using it, but I had already used it over a time that when I went in, I figure out that sometimes I didn't even like do an active connection through a meditation, but I was already there, because the fear that I had created from all the previous times was already there. And so these places have exactly that, and they had Okay, my meditation has my

own energy. Imagine a temple that has sometimes you know, hundreds of people or whatever meditating or doing a ritual, and that is embedded there as layers and layers of consciousness. That's what I believe, Cliff about that wonderful.

Speaker 1

So if somebody is entering a archaeological park in Mexico and they are drawn to a temple or a pyramid and they want to know information, I personally have a program where I say you have to intend, yes, but what else would you add to that?

Speaker 2

First of all, something that I have learned from also different wisdom keepers from different traditions is before entering a temple space, not even the building itself, just the area, you ask for permission. You ask for permission for the spirit of the place, the energy of the place to be there. Okay, and you go there with great respect, and you go with sacred intention exactly what you mentioned.

Our tour also likes to do something extra. He literally bends down and he touches with his hand the ground and he just asks permission, literally touching the ground with his hand. So for different people it's different, but I think what you just mentioned is the most important intention. And then when you go in, you treat the place as if you're going to the deepest, purest, most sacred place.

There is what I don't like with most of classical archeologists, and and they are chillologist in Greece, like sometimes drive me crazy with that. They shout and they say, this is not a temple, it's our cheological ruins, and I'm like, seriously, like this makes me crazy, like I cannot hold like coup not and all of them right today, and they look like ruins. But the field is still there, and

so you can still tap into the field. If even if half of the temple is destroyed, it doesn't matter because I'm out of the four D. Literally, if you if you can get out of the time continuum linear, the temple is there and will be there, and you know it has never been destroyed in a way. And so the intention is the most important. Everybody can do their own activations. I mean, you can learn the one that I do because this is what has been given to me and what I'm meant to transmit to other people.

But if you just go with the circuit intention and you're not just there to say because sometimes we forget that, like we are as humanity, I think we are like teenagers and we're always taking, you know, taking from the earth, taking from the temple. What are we giving back? So next time you know, we eat, it would be nice to say thank you Earth for giving me this food,

for giving me energy through this food. And so when we go to the temple, is thank you, you know, energy of the temple for being there and also offering something. You can offer energy, you can offer emotion, you can offer an instance that you mentioned, or all of that, whatever resonates with you, because we're all different and we all have different resonance with things. So find your own way for everybody listening and see what resonates with you.

Some people want to leave flowers, but that's the important aspect to not only God to receive and take, but also offer something back.

Speaker 1

I think it's a real shame that the UH the Church in Mexico as well as Ina, does not allow ceremony inside archaeological parks. You can do it outside or if you can, you can go in and be very quiet and say it to yourself.

Speaker 2

But they allowed in what the mala.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I know you can get to call.

Speaker 2

Several temples, you can do a whole ceremony. You can like fire, you can do all of these things. That's one of the reasons I really love what the Malan you know we're doing. Also this retreat, it's just incredible. But I really believe what you are saying in oral you know different cultures around the world. Why it's not that allowed. What's the harm of doing a ceremony inside what it's called an archeological space? What is the problem? I don't see it.

Speaker 1

It's empowerment. You're empowering yourself, and the church doesn't like that because you take power away from them. So the books called the Power of Sacred Location. My guess today's been Lydia de Leong, and I really recommend you get this book. It is fabulous. I've just scratched the surface on the content. It has a great deal on how energy affects physiology, body, mind, and spirit, and it gives us a hint as to how our ancestors use this energy.

And I mean, we're, like Lydia says, we're just scratching the surface. Yes, what do you suggest for equipment when you go to a new place or appush you haven't been to before to measure energy? I typically suggest a simple compass, but a compass may not pick up all the different frequencies of energy. What would you suggest that's not too expensive? I mean because John Burke was walking around with fifty thousand US dollars worth of a equipment to measure.

Speaker 2

That's where we are. That's where we are at. Yeah. Yeah, there is no easy answer because also when John was doing his work, there was very little ARTIFICI MF. And now we have that issue as well, because you know, measuring with magnetometers and this and that, you get all the noliedge from me MF and sometimes it's very difficult to filter it out. There's no easy way I can

recommend to to do this work. What I have to say for sure is that there is no one equipment that can do everything and the same Jaunted you know, he had a series of different things and that's what we have as well, and we are always adding more feelings, you know, to have a vast spectrum of measurements. And something that we have also added, which you know I put together from this PhD that I did, is a

protocol to measure people. So we measure people away from the temple and then inside the temple, and we see different parameters blood Salaira. We have biofeedback like eg E KG, we have the buyer. Well, we have different things live blood, microscopy. There are many different things that we have and that's why we're, you know, in this process of looking for funding, because every temple to measure with all the world, the real spectrum, you know, has a high budget itself. And

so we're getting there. We're almost there. But this is the work I want to carry out around the world, and I want to see the results. And I am absolutely you know, let's say, in the path of bringing science and spirituality together, I think they're just the two sides of the same coin. I don't think there is something to merge. But in our days, I love to have people from the one side experience the temple field and say, oh I feel this or I had that experience.

But I also want to have measurements and data you know, that can be replicated also. And for our left brain, you know, it's good that this left brain also has its own feedback apart from the right brain that has all the intuition and all the experiences. And I think they are both super important and it's a time more than everyone I think we need to go back to the chemical union, the feminine and the masculine energy coming together.

That's that's what we need to awaken in people. I think worldwide.

Speaker 1

Fantastic. One last question question that I going to let you go. We'll have to have you back. One of the things that has come to mind is that the Maya not only were extremely sophisticated, but they thought outside of the box. We we think you won't get this from an archaeologist, but we think that the larger cities

were aligned with constellations. And what that means to me is that there was an unseen energy connecting with the various temples, buildings and pyramids within a city as they aligned up, as they align with the various planets and stars and so forth. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2

Yeah? Absolutely, this is something I decode a lot. Also, I have this online course called the Sacred Science of Ancient Temples. In the past it was featured actually in the residence Academy of the same Haramain, but now they have moved to other courses, so now it's on our own platform. Sorry. And so this is one of the really important aspect of temples, which is the sky what I call the sky link and that is deeply profound. It has also an esoteric aspect to it and also

a scientific aspect. But to just because it can take a lot of time to explain that blistically, we are creating fractality. Fractality is what keeps the universe together, and when you bring the sky on the Earth, you create more of that alignment. And yes, all these constant and planetary alignments, they have an effect on what is going on on the planet, and it's like a cosmic calendar.

So when you have these temples with these alignments, you are bringing that energy down here and for them it was very important, but also for us today we know that this has a specific even scientific effect, that it's really important inherent part of the temple design. And there is a lot more that you know, we can discuss, but that it's like a complex issue, but the factality aspect is important, and bringing the sky down to the Earth and creating that continuation fantastic.

Speaker 1

Really really enjoyed speaking with you, Lydia. Give people your web address and how they can learn more about you.

Speaker 2

Sure so our website is Geophilia dot org. So that's Geo p h I l I A dot org. You can also leave your email there. We'd love to have you in your mailing list because we send every week and use letter with tons of information that we don't share anywhere else, so make sure you're there. We will announce very soon the Watemlari Treat for Equinox March twenty twenty five, and we will have some more events the

next year. We have now coming up an online congress which is called Sacred Geometry, Holistic Architecture well Being, and we will be talking also about temples, but other things about how to create a healing space where you are and how we get affected by our spaces in different levels of our well being. So that's coming sixteen and seventeen of November, and it's an online congress that we're doing.

We have doctor Krotekov, we have Bett Austin, we have really amazing speakers and we're going to cover all so measurements, some things on measuring ancient temples. And we also have our two online courses for now we will be releasing more. One is the Sacred Science of Ancient Temples. This is my signature course where I just break down everything and more things than the book doesn't have and so it's all about the temple technology. And Arturo has a course

called Cosmic Design linking the micro, macro and mesocosm. So how does the universe design to create this link or fractality across different scales? And this is more or less. See, we have tons of materiality on our website, so feel free for everybody listening to learn more from there. You can start from there, and I hope to see you there. Cluth, thank you so much for the invitation. Thank you all your amazing work. I'm such a huge fan and I hope to see you again in the next one.

Speaker 1

You were fantastic Lydia, I have to have you back and I really appreciate your time. Thank you for joining me today. That was a fun interview. If you study the works of John Burke in his book Set of Knowledge, Stone of Plenty, he carried around with him around fifty thousand dollars worth of equipment that he used in testing

these things. Now, there's got to be a way to condense this so that we can tell from you know, spending maybe a few hundred dollars on some kind of a scanning device, what is going on in these areas? I mean he was able to really track them down. Now he passed away over ten years ago, so the technology must have must be getting better. And so not only do we want to know the energy strength, we want to know what kind of energy field it is? Is it a tollurk energy feel? Is a geomagnetic anomaly?

Speaker 2

What is it?

Speaker 1

Exactly? Are we interfacing with number? That's number? That's the next question. And then can we build a scanner that can detect data? If we're on the Internet sending data and information all over the place, how did our ancestors connect it, connect with these ancient sites and imbue them with data. I'm of the belief and I've been told that these stone buildings are like computer banks and they store data. How do we extract it? This is the next area we're looking at. So and I mentioned this

last week. It's like if archaeology doesn't begin picking this up, they're going to lose the whole game. They did adopt archaeo astronomy over I think it's been two decades now when they introduced it and make made it an extracurricular activity to get your PhD. Archaeo Astronomy the study of the cosmos and not only that, but alignment of buildings, sunsets, seasonal changes, things like that is a it's a very worthwhile field. But this next field to leric energy fields.

How they are adopted into a society, how they are used, what are their benefits? This is what This is the magic of pyramids. This is the magic of temples. This is why they are so special. They're not just a place for worship. There's a there's a place for healing and very likely connecting with the higher realms. If you are trained on how to meditate on those pyramids, on the energies there, your mind has probably enhanced greatly ten times,

one hundred times, a thousand times. And then you're entering what we now know as the Akashik records, and we were downloading data. We're accessing the dearly departed in another realm and canmmunicating with the dead day of the dead, where we're interacting with other realities, communicating with higher intelligences and all kinds of things. And this is where we have magic. And this is where we learn that in the Yugas we have the treta Yuga, which is the

highest expression of mankind. What does that mean? Able to see without seeing your mind. By low case means you are one place. You can leave physically and travel to another location and be conscious of it. You can leave the planet, you can communicate with other intelligences. The sky is the limit. And then on top of that, you have the ability to manifest, So you're manifesting what you want, relationships, things, people, places, things, and so forth and so on. So it's fascinating to consider.

And we're at the end of the last Yuga cycle. We're entering the more positive one, and you know, thousands of years in the future we begin entering treat it again. So that we are and this is so funny to consider. We remember where we were and we kind of reinvent the will a little bit, but maybe on a different spectrum. So will we have the memory? Will we destroy ourselves before we get to treat to Yuga? That's the whole question, And that's funny. Do earth lanes over millions of years?

Which is if you follow the Yugas, that's what happens. We're only they're saying that we're only three hundred thousand years old. The Hindus believe we're millions of years. In fact, if you study the yugas you know, that is a holmost sapient sapien that's spent on the planet millions of years in this cycle of perpetual motion, cycling higher consciousness, higher wisdom, and then cycling down into this dark age, and then cycling back up and back down, back up

and down, a continuous cycle, you know. And that's just a funny way to exist, isn't it. That's what we're incarnated to do here on Earth. Is it's a college, and we're learning. We're had the lower phases of humanity into the higher phases, so we keep incarnating. And those of us who are done with that, after thousands of incarnations, they leave the planet. We go somewhere else. I have friends who say, you know, I don't want to come back, and I want to go somewhere else. That's the chance maybe.

And we don't know how death works. We don't know what happens when you leave the physical body. You probably, as we're told by native traditions and by wisdom keepers, is that when we leave we have a review of our life and did we eliminate karma? Did we do well? Were we proactive? Did we fulfill what we came to do in that lifetime. Then the decision is, okay, do I come back to Earth to learn more, to get more experience, or do I progress outwards and go to

another planetary system? Do I stay non physical being? Sky's the limit. So fun to consider, and I hope you enjoyed. Lydia. I mentioned to her that we may be doing some tours with her. I think she and her husband might be the key to doing tours because they have practices that allow you to experience the energy in these various pyramids. So we'll have to see. All right, that's it for this program. I want to think my guest today, doctor

Lydia de Leong, coming to us from Mexico. As always, the team of Gail Tour in our London communications group headed by Mark Foster. You guys rock all right, take care, be well and get it in the holiday spirit. We'll talk to you next time.

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