Destiny: Rob Fullington, An Alien Experience

Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, welcome to Destiny. Come on in, let's talk about today's program. I had planned on having Whitley Strieber close out our series an Alien Experience, but he is ill, unfortunately, and he was not able to join us. I have found, through a number of contacts, somebody who's actually experiencing profound contact, and as you'll learn in today's program, has been having contact since he

was a child. This narrative of contact throughout the life is something that appears to be quite common. And if you read doctor John Max's book Abduction, if you read Bud Hopkins' book Missing Time or Intruders, also doctor David Jacob's book, you get a sense that these abductions are not one offs. They appear to be conducted throughout the contact they's life. And as we'll learn today, there is memories, there are like states, and there are conditions that

appear to be part of this abduction experience. Now, my guest today is Rob Fullington. If you don't know who he is, he has been in the news off and on for a number of years and there was a recent documentary on his experience and I'm really happy to have him on the program to kind of close out this series and Alien Experience. Now, I'm playing this for you because this is something that I was fascinated in thirty years ago, and I was at the time, and we're talking the late nineteen nineties.

From nineteen ninety six through perhaps two thousand, I was the program director for WHOLEFE Expo here in San Francisco. We had a series of tracks, which is our lectures and presentations covering the It was the alien experience, this was sightings, this was ex military. These were people who had had abduction encounters with can only be considered off world types, which are ets or aliens,

if you want to use that terminology. And I thought it was a phenomenon just for that period, But as I have learned and we'll hear from today, this phenomenon is continuing. I think I read somewhere that there could be not a few thousands, there could be tens of thousands of people that are experiencing this phenomenon of meeting face to face with aliens, meeting and in some

cases having experiments conducted on them. It's not a casual event. It is really historic in many ways, and you have to wonder where is our government in this process? Why if the government knows about this, why aren't they coming forward and talking about it. Why are they keeping it quiet? Now? We have had a number of different individuals on this program, most notably Marion Rudnick, who used to be an astronomer for NASA for JPL in southern

California. If you remember, he was having sightings of these UFOs or UAP's unidentified aerial phenomenon. He wrote about it, and when he published his data, he was persecuted by a military or black ops group which is otherwise known as the Men in Black. No one knows where they come from, no one knows where they are so disruptive and in many ways very threatening. Why why would Marion be treated in such a poor manner as of his disclosure?

This doesn't make sense. And why if it's true, why don't we have more information revealed to the public that we are being visited by extraterrestrial beings, We are being subjugated to in some cases experiments in virtual fertilization, women are being impregnated. There are peers. And this is only guess work based on my research and my speaking with various people that are going through these procedures, there must be a race of hybrids that look just like us but have DNA

from ets. What does that mean? The implications are amazing. If it's true that we are being populated by hybrid beans. And by the way, my guest today is considered, he considers himself a hybrid and will learn about exactly what that means today. But if it's true that there's a hybrid race of beings here on Earth, what does that mean? Why would this happen?

Now? One of the things that I find fascinating in today's narrative this interview is that the ET race that is speaking with Rob, communicating with him, has said to him that they are the ones who populated or created Homo sapien sapien. That is a mindful right there to consider. And when you hear something like that, you immediately dismiss it. It's easy to dismiss because it's like, what are you talking about? That's not how we have But

there's always been this strange possibility of an off world race populating Earth. We've talked about Panspermia and other programs, and this is where the Earth is seated by microbes that come through and ride asteroids and seed our stratosphere. We've had scientists on the program talking about this who have reported it, and for the most part there have been ostracized. They've been their research has been ignored,

perhaps just because it's too much, or purposefully by the governments. They have been their data has been rejected. So we don't know what the hell is going on. And these are very very strange times that we're dealing with. And if true, and if this abduction phenomenon is as big as some of our guests have claimed, then something's going on. Then something there's an undercurrent of experimentation of human development, human evolution, that is an undercurrent of perhaps

the next human, the next Earth human, hybrids, hybrid humans. Why we don't know. Today we're gonna hear a little bit about it, and it's fascinating to consider. So today's program is an alien abduction and my guest

today is Rob Fullington. We conclude our program and alien experience this week with a fascinating look at an experiencer who I just found out is close to me here in the Bay Area, and his name is Rob Fullington, and he has been experiencing off world connections for it looks like most of his life. I want to mention this as well as we speak with these individuals. For the most part, they are left alone. There's no agency, there is no government help. In many cases, as we've learned in the past,

they are left to their own devices to deal with these experiences. And I don't know how to deal with that myself. When I think of these which we're talking about, not a few hundred, I'm thinking more like many thousands. It could be a whole phenomenon of millions. But we just don't know

if there's an undercurrent of connection or contact that goes to that level. But as you'll learn today, Rob has been left to his own devices to a point, and then he reaches out to support groups that are available and it gets help. So Rob, thanks for joining me today on Destiny. How you doing, Oh yeah, no, no problem. Hey what do you do. You used to be in the military. You were in the army or where I was serving? I did the army when I was young.

You know, gosh, what was I like eighteen? I just went in as a uh eleven eleven bravo, you know, so uh at the time. I was just kind of ignorant then. I mean, nothing really special happened there. You did boot camp and kind of a peace time, but that that career didn't really go far for me. Did you get sent to Afghanistan or no, nothing like that. Oh you stay local? Then it was stupid. It was really short. I ended up getting injured basic,

and so it really really was a very short experience there. Yeah, so nothing really nothing really uh exciting there, except for you know, I was able to at least learn, you know, kind of how that system works a little bit. It's interesting. Yeah, interesting to say the least. But et wise then, yeah, I was still pretty much ignorant to uh to my experiences at the time. Let me let me ask you about that. When did you, I mean, obviously this was bubbling up, Uh,

when did you realize that you were having these variances? Was it? I mean, I don't want to get into the to the most recent I want to go as far back as you can. Was this something that as a young kid you were seeing craft or were you were you interacting in some on some physical level. And so I didn't become a really truly aware until I was twenty nine years old, So two thousand and nine I became aware. But uh, there was a lot of things going back to childhood.

See what happened to me was I'm a I'm a twinless twin. So my twin passed away in the womb. Oh and somehow I survived. Interesting A lot of a lot of others that I've connected with kind of have a similar thing going on it. But there's got wonder if there's something there. But I always thought it was a ghost of my twin. That was you know, paranormal ghost thing, and it was just a miss miss identification on my

part. But it would be things like, yeah, you know, things floating in the room, you know, like like the closet door just opening up, you know, or things kind of moving on their own, and it's just like you know, you would think ghosts, and parents thought active imagination. And then I got my implants when I was about oh gosh, elementary school. I remember like finding these bumps inside my mouth and going, oh my god, I have a cans mouth cancer and you know they're like,

no, no, everybody has bumps in their mouth. But years later the dentist is my dentists is like I don't know what those are, man, Are they in your gums or on your cheek, under under the under the tongue, on the jaw. Yeah, about the size of the ones of the size of the grain of rice and the others a little like little bebie. They're not metallic. And sometimes they'll they'll do a little spin or pop out of place and pop back in the place. Kind of kind of

odd and they never bug me. Always kind of thought it. People suggest, well, get get rid of them, like not that or not. You know, they're there for a reason. But uh, other odd things of like you know, seeing craft. I remember, like as a kid, you know, hearing stories of people seeing spy planes and stuff. And I'll be in my parents had an old convertible back in the days, and i remember looking up on the highway thing and I'd like to see a spycraft.

I'd see this, you know, ball of light in the guide, you know, just zipping across, and I'm just like, oh, I just got to see a spy plane, you know. And so I'd never made I never made the connection, or you know, I was in the heavy into martial arts and motorcycles and stuff growing up, and I was really

physically active. And I remember waking up one day about fourteen years old with a a bruise on my forearm, you know, right right right there, and it's a perfect circle with a blood drop with it in the center, like something poked me and made a perfect circle bruise that that was like a cylinder bruise all the way down through the muscle hurt too. I remember thinking, oh, that's kind of weird. But I must have got it that, you know, in class the other day, or did I poke it,

you know, when I'm riding the bike or something. But then you know, years later, I got the same mark again, and I was like, oh shit, these guys have been with me for a long time. But yeah, I ask you real quickly though, does your mother or your father or do you have assemblings of brother or sisters? I have a brother, Yeah, does he did any of the did they recollect any of this? I mean, because they must know now that you're spelling it,

because you've been having such profound experiences, have nothing at all? Really uh uh, they're pretty uh, I mean they're they're pretty accepting with it, going with me, but every once in a while, like you tell me, about a dream that they had, and I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's an interesting dream you had. You know, Well, do

you think they were taking on a ship too? Uh? You know, like one of one of the ones the big, a big red flag for me is when they tell me rob I had this weird dream where I woke up and got out of bed. So they had a dream where they wake up, get out of bed. They're walking around the house and there's these little, you know, gray entities with big heads running around the house. And they said I kept showing them off, like get out of here,

get out of here, and they kept like following them around. And then they said and that was it. It's like, oh that was that might have been more than a dream, you know, you know. And a couple of times, uh you know that that happened with friends, I think. I think the most crazy when my friend told me he woke up and he's like, we read a cabin up and up in near Yosemite, right, And he says about the heck you sleep midnight man, And I'm like, well, like, what do you mean. He's like, I had

a dream. I woke up and I came downstairs and there was a light shining in the off the patio, he said. You were standing out in the patio with your hands up and this light was shining out on you from the sky, he said, And then these little gray guys came into the They came into the house, started chasing me up and down the stairs, and I kept trying to get rid of him, like hey, get out of here. And then then he said, then I blacked out. I mean, it makes you wonder, like, you know, that sounds more

like a dream to me. You know. Yeah, it's funny because I hear this scenario with others, and it's like this civilization that is here abducting people has a power to shut your brain down, oh yeah, and creates a force field either through their own consciousness or they're using some form of tech

that is uh really actively moving through you. Right. Yeah, I would say, I would say both, depending on depending on the species actually, because they also have the ability to make you see what they want you to see. Right. So you know, a good example of this was I will one day was my wife made bacon wrapped hall of pinio poppers, right, and uh, I was just going to town on them, and I

swallowed a tooth. I swallowed a toothpick, right, and I thought, oh no, this might be a problem, right, And so I go. I go to bed that night and I flipped over, you know where they kind of you can come into the room. You get like a sleep paralysis. But I'm not sleeping yet. I'm I'm just laying there. But then my my legs and my arms stiffen up, and I can see the two beings walk into the room and you get this. The one little guy is standing next to the bed and you have you know what some called a

mantis being standing on the butt just behind the guy. Little guy, and they say, oh, this is gonna feel kind of weird. And you feel like put their hand through your body and into your into my stomach, and it felt like I was a roller coaster. Well I snapped out of it and I grabbed the guy's a little guy's face, right, and my my thumb was in his mouth and he was, you know, chewing on

my thumb. And you can feel like this, his skin's like a real buttery soft like like it's like grabbing someone sell you, sell you light, you know, it's kind of like the same feeling and all of a sudden, the mantis puts its arms up and and I'm I was just in a field, dancing in a field, you know, frolicking in a field, like well where am I? So yeah, they totally have the ability to do that. They also can use technology and I know to uh great like

bubbles. Right, So if there was a craft out you know here, you know, our big one of our big experiences. I'll get into later. But I wanted to get the neighbor to come out, you know. I was like, oh gosh, someone else has got to see this, and run across the street and I can see the neighbors doing their effect right behind me. I can see the neighbor doing the dishes, and I'm ringing the doorbell, knocking on the door, and they're just completely unaware. You

know. It's a So yeah, they do have this ability for sure. You're featured in uh uh Miguel Mendoza's book Meet the Hybrids, and we're going to talk about hybridization and the second here. But apparently you were at a place where you needed some support. Talk about how you met with Barbara Lamb and how she regressed you to bring up not only the childhood experience, but unfolding this whole scenario where you were on the ships. Yeah, so things.

I was really sick right at first, and I went from two hundred and ten pounds to like one hundred and one hundred and ten pounds. How old were you this happened in twenty nine years old. Yeah, this is I'm an eighties baby. So this is two thousand and nine. Okay, when it all started for me, and I was getting really sick and the doctors had no idea. I ended up having to know do medical bankruptcy because they just kept throwing tests and test on me and they had no idea what

was going what was going wrong. And this is when weird things were starting to happen. Uh, pretty pretty heavy. It was like at two thousand and nine, it just hit me like a ton of bricks. Right, So I'm really getting really sick, really scared, trying to figure out like what in the world is going on with me? And so I when I emailed a bunch of people, you know, all the all the big names I were out of the time I emailed and I was like, oh my

god, I'm freaking out, What's what's going on? And nobody was getting back to me. I was, you know, having people come over because when we had the Big Ship. I reported the Big Ship in two thousand December of two thousand and nine, and uh, you know, I had Muffon come over with us with a guy from Livermore Labs came over to the house to do the investigation. And then you know, I got even got a call from Robert Bigelow and he's all, do you know who are talking

to right now? I'm all, no, I don't know who I'm talking to right now. And later on find out then, you know, so I was like, oh my god, there's people like you know, pressing me for information. It wasn't until early twenty ten. My mentor, friend and mentor she's passed away now, Cynthia Crawford. I think she's also in the book Meet the Hybrids, but you know she was. She was my mentor and friend, and she was the one that got me in touch with

everybody. I did a There used to be a group. Her friend had a group in San Francisco that met once a month, and I would go to the support group and started meeting everybody. Then I went and met Cynthia. She said, well, come to one of my conferences. I go to the conference and you know, we became instant friends. She's like,

oh my god, I believe you. And so she got me in touch with She said, we're gonna have a little get together like kind of like a family call it like a family reunion sort of thing, right, and a bunch of contents and experienceers got together and I ended up going on a trip that wasn't Joshua Tree like Palm Springs. It was in Palm Springs, and uh yeah, I met Barbara Lamb at this at the house and we just became, you know, really good friends, sharing experiences and stuff.

And that's kind of like how I got into that. The regression didn't come until a couple of years later where I had an experience where I you know, thought I saw the how the world ends and it really stressed me out. So I did my first regression with Barbara Lamb, and it really, uh that really did help with the uh open opened me up to understand that like, oh, it wasn't it wasn't so uh so negative as I thought. You know, would you say that they they ets kind of anesthetize your

memories because it's too much for most of us. Yeah, yeah, I would say that it would be way too much. Yeah, it's just what I was been experiencing. It was just having to go to work, you know, after seeing something just completely mind blowing, and then you go to work and you're just like, what, how am I supposed to function?

So yeah, I mean at the time I just worked. I was working in retail and I was a paint expert at a at a very popular hardware store, you know, and just having customers talking to you when I'm sick, I'm dying from an unknown disease and I'm dealing with aliens and people are just like, you know, hey man, you need to help me out here, and I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, it makes it makes it pretty difficult. Talk about your recovery from the illness. What is

your because I saw this in a video that you were in. You talk about going from I think you said two thirty to one eighteen or something that's seen two ten to one about one, which is which is like you're like, you know, a death camp survivor, You're so skinny. They couldn't trace it. They couldn't figure out what happened. What did the beans tell you were you were you irradiated? Is this just a problem or were you just going through a series of experiments that shut your digestion down? Yeah,

it was. It seems like I never really got a full answer on that, But it does seem more like I was going through a bit of like a some sort of accelerating process, right, So you know I did. I did end up going from the person I was to the person I am in like a boom, a snap of the fingers, you know, And so that I guess it does put a tremendous stress on the body going through

this. And what ended up happening is the doctor ended up telling me like, look, dude, you're gonna end up dying here pretty soon, and we're gonna have to put a feeding tube in you. And so they started getting me scheduled to have a feeding tube put in and start going through this you know, death process of for an unknown disease. And then just like that, poof it disappeared. Yeah, disappeared around about twenty started early two

thousand and nine and ended sometime late twenty ten. Just poof done. But then I still had to go through a bit of a recovery process and now I'm the fat boy I am today. Did you would you say you have a memory of you being given some form of treatment like a light therapy or

you mentioned implants. Maybe they had something that you have any sense of what would cause this uh huge loss of weight something about I mean, it's it's like a uh like it it was an energy thing, some sort of energy overload, probably radiation exposure, exposure, uh and then just this this extreme accelerated growth and then impacted with with the ultra high stress levels. So all

right, because you're dealing with this, yeah, yeah. And the memory memory wise, it's it's really fragmented, right, so a lot of it. You only get little tiny chunks and pieces, right, So it's like it's almost like they try to keep your life normal but fail miserably at it. You know. Yeah, talk a bit about her. You have a prostate situation. Yeah, and you without getting too personal, it seems like this is a treatment, the effects of a treatment to extract sperm from you.

So they're extracting fluids. Whether you like it or not, I guess. And was this was the beginning of my awakening processes, as I call it. So that did happen like late two thousand and eight, and the prostate, you know, the urologist was like, oh, we have no idea what's wrong with you. You know, your prostate looks fine and you don't have any infections. They just kept throwing antibiotics at me, thinking I had was a prostatitis or some shit. Yeah, inflammation, yeah yeah,

but there really wasn't any inflammation. And you just said, there's something, there's something wrong, we don't know what it is. And at that time, I just thought, you know, oh gosh, this is just miserable. And that's I met my wife around that time and and that too just went away. But I wasn't aware of e T at the time. But that's right when my process started. There was a as I was, I was sick for work, and uh I was One day I was at work

and this guy, the guy, this guy comes into work. I'm just normal looking guy, right, and he hands me a post it note. Right. It was just a little tiny post post it note and it had a bunch of conspiracy theories on it and UFOs and uh, certain things to like look up and he's like, here, I wanted to give I want to give this to you okay, And my coworker was there. She's like, oh, can I have one too? And he's like, oh yeah, sure, and so he have two and then he just walks out of

the buildings. I was like, I've heard of some of this ship that stuff. Sorry, probably French, I said, I've heard of some of this stuff, and uh, he just smiles and walks off. And then so with the prostate thing flared up again and I had like a week off, and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna start looking at this stuff. And I started looking at it. You know, you can't

even find the videos anymore. Most of them have all been kind of scrubbed or you know, this so long ago, they've been kind of buried way. But it's like craft and I was like, oh my gosh, you know there's there's something going on here. Oh my god. There was like a little light bulb but went off on my head that there is something more to this story than than people realize. And then fourth of July two thousand and nine was our first well my girlfriend which would be my wife now right

because we were just we were just dating. So fourth of July we saw our first ship together. And that just went Oh, holy, holy moly, holy moly. We're going to take a short break here to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, Rob Fullington, coming to us from northern California. Be right back. My

guest today is Rob Fullington. He is an alien experiencer. He has been interacting with different species for most of his life, and as we're learning today, this hasn't always been the most pleasant interactions. Talk about exciting because I didn't realize that your girlfriend at the time was there with you. So she saw what you saw. Yes, yeah, she's been with me. She's been with me and she's seen just about everything. Yeah, and it's had

her own experiences. All the pictures I got, you know, I helped to send them to you, but the pictures I got there, she took all pictures. So even a couple of times she'll be I'll be I was at work and she calls me. She's like, I got a ship. I got a ship right outside right now, And you know, she took us a picture in his blue lights in the sky and I'm like, hey, boss, I need to get off early. They're like, no, you're not getting off early, you know, and I'm like, oh god,

She's like I'm freaking out. Rob So. But that first the first craft was fourth of July and we were at my parents' house. They have this huge California illegal fireworks show, you know, just mortars going off, and I was just kind of like getting into into the phenomenon. And I see a little satellite, you know, going across the sky and I said, hey, everybody, look a satellite. A satellite, and they're like, yeah, okay, whatever. And I remember like thinking, okay,

I'm going to project the thought. I'm gonna go do something like move left, move right, stop, go faster, and it just kept on drifting away, you know. I was like, okay, it was nothing right. So, like I was a smoker at the time, and and my wife smokes, she still smokes. And we go out at like two two in the morning. Yeah it's about two. It was two in the morning. No, no, no, no, the first one yeah, yeah,

my mom she's just right there. So at two at two in the morning, we go out and you know, the fireworks are done and everyone's sleeping, and I see the satellite again just kind of like drifting in the sky well or a satellite. I'm like, oh, there's a satellite, and then boom, it's it's in space. And then it's over my neighbor's house right, and it's this just orange glowing disk right about the size of like a oh, it was pretty big, like a short bus, you

know, like the short the school bus, the short school buses. And it turns off all of its lights, so you just see this tiny little like shimmer of light and we're like, oh god, did you see that? What thatck was that? And we start walking, you know, and you see it move with us, right, and when we look away at the corner of your eight, it lights up and you look and it shuts off right, and you're like, whoa, what's what was that? What was that that? And then okay, okay, do you know, we're

like, did you see that? Yeah? I saw it, And we look away and we start walking and it goes with us and then lights up and you look and it shuts down. They did that like three times, and then finally it lights up and the boom back of space like you know, and then you see the little satellite drifting off again. And had you ever had that kind of experience before where you see a ship that close to you. That was the first big one. Yeah, yeah, I was

up close. I mean, like I said, I've seen him as a kid, as like little balls of light glowing or you know, something you would think was a cool meteor, righte that like glowing green meteor, you know. But that was the first like, oh my god, that was something that was something not not from here. Now that's pretty early in the

morning. So did were there follow up helicopters or any military nothing around, nothing like that, Okay, And then we went to you know, we went to try to go to sleep after that, and then I was obsessed. So I started you know, that's when of my kind of like let's say, my research phase started, you know. But uh yeah, yeah, that's when ship started getting sorry, stuff started getting crazy. Okay,

So go ahead and uh continue on. After that sighting, uh that you and your girlfriend who became your wife eventually had what what was the follow up to that? So the followup to that was, you know, an acceleration with the illness, right, So I was, you know, the stomach thing kind of started really bad. It's like I remember going to a friend's house and I started, I started eating, and the food would just go

right through me, you know, I had one. It was kind of it's kind of sporadic at the time, but each each event was pretty intense. And like the first, the first real one that I kind of kind of remember, was I say, like I come into awareness, right, So it's like all of a sudden, you wake up and you're there, right, So I wake up. I'm in my pajamas, right. I used to have these bright orange pajama pants with like a you know, I think it's like little cars on them, and uh, you know, the

white tank top under undershirt tank tops. And I was standing in this like gray dome, real dark on the inside, and I was like on a platform and there's all these little grays around me, not like not like the big head gray, which people call a ZA particular. And I know these

guys are like small, small headed craze. And they were where they wear these like little black jumpsuits, right, skin tight black jumpsuits with some sort of symbol on the patch, and they're just sitting there just staring at me. And I remember just looking at them, like what are you? What is going on here? You know, like looking around and I mean they're only like you know, they can only come up to about your your your belly, right the real short and it's like, what in the world is

this? And I remember feeling like you get this feeling of like I was about to go through something and it had this weird feeling like they were honoring me in a way like you're going about to go through a process and you know, it's like they were honoring kind of like like they were there saluting me and if you if you will, you know so, and then you know, poof wake up and just feel uh really weird, like you know these that was that was real? But no, no, no, that

wasn't real. You know, that wasn't real. And then you have another experience, and then another experience, and then another one and you're like, okay, this is connected to why I'm why I'm sick? You know?

Interesting, Yeah, are they happening consecutive lee like every night or every week or that you think their dreams, you know, it's kind of like almost like bi weekly at that time, you know, little little snippets of but it's like so real, you know, and but then you wake up and it's like, you know, I think, I think my most my most profound one, which is going to be a tough one for for people to swallow, but it's definitely my most disturbing. And I still kind of like

do that, you know, stare off like good lord. I experienced that, you know, and it was like I kind of like woke up right, and I could see this being like staring at me like this close to my face. But what I was seeing and what I was experiencing was just like it was like three hundred and sixty degrees around me and I was admitting light, and this being goes, oh oh oh, oh, hey there, like it was surprised that I, like I wasn't supposed to wake up.

I look around the being and my body is in a chair behind the being, in some kind of weird chair. The top of my cranium was removed, and I can see my brain with you know, I can see all the all the detail, the all the you know the film that coach that's over the brain and you know, a living brain with the blue veins

going through it. You know, it was really really wild. And these three beings were rubbing their hands on my brain and the being and I was outside of my body, and it was like the being was holding my consciousness outside of myself right. And the being goes, oh, oh, oh, hey, hey there, it says, what why is the draft next so long? I said, what why why? I don't know. I said, because of its vertebrae. And I went, oh my god. I started cracking up, and I thought, oh my god, I can't

believe. I can't believe this thing just just shot from the moon on a joke and just you know this, It was ridiculous. But my body as I was laughing, my body goes oOoOO and then and then just blackness. I wake up. I had to go to work at six in the morning. Day I go, I go into work and I feel something at the back of the back of my leg right like, oh this hurts, and holy holy moly. I had three of those perfect circle bruises in the shape

of a triangle. They like to get you right up the pressure points, you know, So it was really painful with the same cylinder going in with the with the blood marks in the center, and then a little triangle cut out of me above above the three bruises, and I was like, oh my god, I felt like I hit by a freight train. You know, my my head's no scarring and my head's still attached. But I was like, oh my god, that was real. So oh my god.

But I learned a lot that hey, we're we're we're spiritual beings living a human experience. So I did get that from that from them on that one. But yeah, I heard that story of you sitting in the chair and you're a ball of consciousness. Yeah, looking at yourself and what a gruesome sight. Yeah, you're pretty pretty hardcore. Pretty I'm still traumatized from it today. Even it's like every once a while be like, oh my god, did they ask did they tell you why they were doing that? Or

explain to you what the purpose was. That's one of the ones I ended up having regressed, right, And it was like a maintenance of sorts, A maintenance, yeah, a maintenance almost Like ah, I wasn't supposed to become aware, like it was just it was like a whole thing. It's something about something about like a too too much energy and too much energy in the body. Uh, And so there was this really some sort of imbalance.

And I think that's another thing with the with the sickness, had to do with something with the consciousness had too much, too much energy going into the body, and I was physically out of balance, so they were doing some sort of maintenance. Go ahead. That's when you kind of get start getting into the you know, I think it's the quote Cliff high but the woo of it all. You know, we're going to talk about the level of evolution these guys are in that's pretty extreme, pretty far from us.

But why do you believe that you're a highbred? And did they give you some sense of this process as a highbred human? Now? The thing the thing of that was, it's like it's it's they're trying to find out why, like why me? You know, why how come nobody else is going through this? You know, and other people that I've met h throughout throughout the years kind of like coming up with the same conclusions. That's okay,

We've we've clearly been tampered since since birth. You know, I do know that you start getting into the what I call the Doctor Jacobs and Barbara Lamb paradox right where Doctor Jacobs is the they're all negative grays here to take over the world, and Barbara Lambs is they're here for to assist humanity in in evolution. From my understanding on it, there's there's a couple of different hybrid programs, but the ones that were the ones that like like myself and others

that are here, it's more of just a business as usual. Let's say the beings that have been here for since the beginning of time that that created us, and they were a science experiment essential and they're the and they're the scientist. Is It's kind of like the way is how I look at it, you know, as far as like if you think in terms of benevolence and benevolence are you know, evil and good it? You know, I've come to think that these are these are human concepts that we're putting on these

things. And so I'm kind of at the point now where I'm thinking what they are is just basically an inert force of nature in a way, right, like like a you know, like a hurricane or something. You know, you can you can see that as being a negative force, but hurricanes,

you know, is as creating balance right essentially. So yeah, now so we just kind of I just came to this conclusion that I've been tampered with and that's been probably tampered at birth, and that's why, Uh, you know, I'm going through this and seemingly in saying reality, what would you say that your mother was in vitro fertilized or would you say it's more like as a birthed human, your genetics were modified as you grow up. Yeah, I would say that because you know, if if you're to test

me, you're gonna find that I'm human, right yeah. And of course, so whatever it is, it's some sort of it's some sort of tingkering. And you know, these guys, what people got to remember, these guys are billions of years more advanced in us in some cases. Right.

You know, I was talking to you, talking to Linda moulten Howe, and she was saying that, you know, from what she's gathered was that mantis beings in particular, can be assigned to a solar system and they live as long as the star that there's to So you know, you're talking about something that could be potentially a couple of billion years old. So there's no way we can understand these things. Okay, So you believe that you have been tampered with from a young age, and the reason I asked that is.

My next question would be, does your mother remember any any interactions or any strange dreams or perhaps you know, before you were born something happened to her or nothing that she ever never, nothing that she ever talks about. You know, she does believe in She's also like Robbie made me so terrified to even look at the night sky. But no, no, she never. She's pretty you know, down to earth and ah, normal normal person pretty much. Yeah, let's talk about your new ACCU. She's kind of

she's kind of weird. I mean, my mother is has been always kind of interested in UFO and the alien experience. When I always wonder has she had an event or not? Well, I think and you've kind of described it perfectly that it's too much for most of us. The experience is so overwhelming that they kind of blanket out and only through regression, hypnotherapy or I don't know where whatever else. Maybe it comes out in an event of some

kind. We're not allowed to remember this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like I said, scientists and we're the experiment, you know, so yeah, they're just like I'm playing in some sort of experiment and trying not to influence, you know, contaminate their experiment in a way. Yeah. Interesting. Talk a little bit about the different races of the ets that you've experienced. Now you've mentioned the mantis. This is actually you're known for

your interactions with the mantis. This is a strange one for me because amantis is an insect that we know about here on Earth. The big heads with the beaks and the and the and the appendages with our there's nothing human about them. They're an insect. So talk about the mantis and any other races

of beings that you've been interacting with. So the the mantis beings, I know, I know a lot of people have described them as being insect right where they have an exoskeleton, you know, you kind of have this like a golden glow to them. But the when not. My first experience ever seeing one face to face in person was you know, I was? I was. This was after after this big spaceship so I kind of based everything

off of my December called the Big Spaceship encounter. But so after my big Ship encounter, when I met one for the first time, I was getting ready for bed. I hear a voice in my head, I don't like that very much. What what do you mean? I don't like that very much? And it goes I don't like it very much. And I looked to the side of my bed and I had a hatchet next to the side of my bed, you know, Grandpa's old hatsheit. And I picked it up and I put it in the dresser and I hear, I still don't

I don't like it very much, but that's okay. I'm not going to make you go outside like what you know? What am my wife saw? What are you doing? I'm like, I'm just getting ready for bed, you know. And then I thought, oh no. I was like, I know what's going to happen. You guys are gonna come visit me for the you know, I have my first face to face encounter. And I was like, well, don't wake my wife up. You know, you

canbye freak her out. So I lay down and go to bed. I wake up up, you know, stood up out of bed, and there's this glowing golden light in the room right and I look at the foot of the bed and there's this so the mantis beings that I see is what they look like. They're about six six and a half feet tall. Right, they look like the body shape is exactly like a praying mantis. Right. They have a really long neck. Right. They got the kind of the

triangle shaped head with big buddy eyes. Right. They have these huge forearms, right, and their wrist I mean, I can, I can do it. You know, their wrist go like this, right, So they have this bend in their wrists and their fingers really long and the fingers go down to the to the elbow. Right, they only got like three three fingers with a thumb and huge forearms, like really wrinkly skin still that same like cellulite textures. You see the goosebumps on it, you know, and

I remember seeing little fat rolls in its belly. You know. It had a white the skin color on its on its neck down to its belly is white and the rest of it is green and then like a white on the under the forearm and then green. And they do have like the mouth with with like teeth. So it it's more of like a cross between a praying

mantis. So it physically shaped like a praying mantis. But then yet it's it's like a it's like a half salamander kind of like it had a had an amphibian vibe to it a little bit, right, so no exoskeleton, soft buttery skin. I couldn't remember seeing the legs so much. It's like always from the from the belly down, it's always kind of a blur for me. I'm always kind of focusing here, so I never really focused down. But uh yeah, it's it's like a cross between a salamander and a

praying mantis. So, uh, you know, I'll finish that one. But it it bows to me, and uh, I was like, why are you bowing to me, dude. I'm like, I'm just I'm just a guy. Man. It's like it dowed to me, so like honor

me. And it puts its hand out and touches my my third eye right there, and I just busted out and laughter, you know, just cracking up, like I got this overwhelming sense of like, oh my god, it's this is a family reunion, like I haven't It's like I haven't seen you in a thousand years, bud, like you know, was like an overwhelming joy of meeting. And that's when it hit me in the third eye and I just blacked out, went to sleep. But so there's the mantis

beings. The little gray guys. Uh, they they're they're short. They kind of like have like lines, uh you know, straachs on the face. It's like a like wrinkles that go and go in a line pattern somewhat real, real big neck, big but black, buggy eyes, three fingers,

the black jumps suit. Now from my understanding on these guys, they're more of a biomechanical, biomechanical life form, and it was like they're the they're intermediate, so like an avatar, if you will, for the mantis being too, to put in between the mantis being and us, right, So they mantis being would use these guys to interact with us, so like the mantis projects its consciousness into these little robotic guys. I don't know what

they're called. I just a friend of mine dubbed them goloids. So it's just been calling them goloids and ever since. Let me stop you just for a second. Do the mantis beans tell you describe where they're from? What planetary system or where there? Where? There are they here on Earth? Have they always been here? Or they're not? Like not from this dimension? Oh, they're a dimensional beings. It's a dimensional thing. But they can, they can come into our dimension. So it's that seemed like it

was more where where exactly? I never got a pinpoint. Just really it's called them stupid old and not not from quite from this dimension. Yeah, their ships must be extremely sophisticated if they're dimensional traveling, and they must have a tech analogy that's just beyond our concept. Mind mind blowing, yeah, and mind numbing. We're gonna take a short commercial break and we will be right back with my guest, Rob Fullington and his interactions with all four Old

types otherwise known as ets. We'll be right back, m M. My guest today is Rob Fullington. He is coming to us from northern California. He has had a life of abductions and experiences with a number of E T races. His story has played out on television documentaries. He was speaking for a while to various UFO groups and private organizations and his story is fantastic and

one for consideration. I want to just check something else with you, Rob, I mean, is there any sense And they're talking to you through telepathy their brain to brain. They don't move their mouths, so it's all, uh, how does that make you? Do you make clicking noises, so you'll hear like like clicking. So they do do that, but now they wouldn't speak. Uh, they don't speak like like you and I do.

Yeah, it's a it's a telepathy. Yeah, So any sense of history with them with early humans, I mean because you're you're I think you're receiving data. Yeah that you that you don't know you're receiving. You're you're being uh, you're being enhanced in a way so you can support the information. This is what's coming up now. But yeah, yeah, I do know that there is a cave. We're not kpenis. You know, the the Native American art has petroglyphs, pet gliss. There's some with the mantis beings.

I think I know there's a there's a tribe down in South South Africa, somewhere around there and South I think it's South Africa, some tribe that believes that it was a praying mantis that that gave birth to the world and the cosmos. They have shown me like memories of them being in like Native American dances a few times. So they do seem to interact with been interacting

with our species probably since year around the beginning. Yeah, I don't think that they are necessarily our creators per se, but they're definitely really old and have an intimate connection to the planet. Yeah, if maybe, if anything, probably some of the beings that actually had a hand in building our solar system even you know, and making it possible for life in this planet to

have life on it. Talk about some of your enhancements. Now, you have described this horrific weight loss, which was the result of having your physiology change in some form. Uh, this horrible, uncomfortable. I'm a guy, so obviously a prostate prom can be a real nightmare. Oh god, yeah, it gil be a terrible nightmare. Uh that's enough said. But after all of this alignment, I'm just going to use that term. H

you start being able to create three dimensional images that are used. I guess I've read the fact that these images can enhance a consciousness or change things. Talk about your abilities and what you've been left with. So, you know, I was always kind of a weird, kind of a weird kid, you know. I think a big one that just kind of like started popping up really heavy at the time was emtastic, like the ability to read people.

I'm not not like read your mind. I can't read anything like that, but to a feel like feelings, right, like I can feel feelings. Nature was a big one for me that really came out just this weird,

weird connection to uh nature, animals and stuff like that. I can go out and you know, butterfly or a dragonfly, and I can go out and just kind of connect with it and then pick it up with my finger, you know, I crawl on my finger or uh, you know, make friends with with random fence lizards that we got running around here, you know. So that that was a big one nature, this weird connection

nature. Becoming aware of what I call the quantum field, right, So I became aware of uh this but y'all to even describe it similar to like quantum string theory, right, I became aware. I became aware of these tiny little strings that kind of just you know, go go forever in the in the forward, in the future, forever in the past, and how each quantum particle is connected to everything. There's it's like a big web a

patchwork quilt, right. It's like it's like a patchwork quilt where you know, each individual fiber in the quilt is you know, it goes through and it's creating pictures. Is it's all woven together, it creates the image. Right, So we're like each individual, you know, you have your little patch on the quilt, and I have my little patch on the quilt, and and it's kind of woven, woven together by these all these quantum strings,

you know. Well, so that was one of the big things that I kind of became aware of. So then a natural healing ability two came came of this right to be able to heal myself to a degree heal others. And what does that look like? Is it like you walk into somebody and you can get a sense of their energy field and kind of know that they need some help. Or the best way I can describe it, it's

like correcting the quantum strings. So, I mean, the the my theory always kind of was that it's, uh, if if our bodies are an entanglement of quantum particles, and then these strings are kind of set on a path, then the let's take let's say cancer for an example, right, the idea would be that cancer cells on the quantum level, each each individual part of particle would have its own quantum strings. So it's a. It's

like a pre predetermined path that those quantum particles are on. It's almost like a the idea of taking your uh, your strings and push like like a train moving and you're just like switching the switch the track to go down a different path. Talk about any go ahead. Yeah, it's a I had had some had some success when I actually focused on it, you know, something I definitely wanted to get into. But you know, I'm I just like helping out my friends and family best that I can. Yeah. You

you say you've been altered. Have you uh developed a sense of your purpose in this life time? Do they give you a sense of why you're here or is it just that this is your time to be aware of your experience. Yeah. I think it was just more like for me to become be aware of my experience and the purpose of it. You know, at the beginning, I did feel this like driving for drive to be like I need to tell the entire world right, And so I was like, oh my

god, this is so amazing, this is so important. Everybody needs to

know this. And then I kind of like, so I got out there and you know, I did the book and I did the but then I kind of felt like, you know, no one's really paying attention and like nobody cares, So maybe that's not really that really wasn't the purpose to you know, we all kind of think in the beginning of man, we can really do some positive in the world, and you know, but they explained to me the question was once asked and it was what chance does a person

have to change the world? And the reply was, well, what chance does a fly have at stopping a freight train? Jeezus? Seemingly now, seemingly it would be impossible for a fly to change the path of a freight train. But what if you were to gather enough flies to equal the mass of the freight train, Then in that sense, the fly does have a

chance to alter the paths of a freight train. Or if you had one fly and that one fly was traveling at the speed of light and then that one fly hits the freight train, would cause a great explosion, and of course it would also the thing. So it's about it's about momentum and how much momentum can an individual gain to change it. But still for a fly to go the speed of light is seemingly impossible, So now not really no

individual has the potential to change the entire world. But so you know, with that, I kind of just fill just gonna be the best person that I can possibly be and just try to ride ride this roller coaster the best that I can. But you must you must be sensitized to current events. And you also must have I don't want to say visions or or things like that, but if you if you've been altered in the manner that you are talking about, how do you look at events where there's like, right now

conflicts in the Middle East. Oh yeah, no, it's just horrified. Really yeah, it's just appalled and horrified because I came to the realization that, ah, this, this life is so precious, this planet is so precious, and I get I get mad about these these events, like how in God's name, why are you killing each other? What are you doing? Why are you fighting over just nonsense? You know, it's it's like it's for me, it's insane, and we could just we could we have

a potential here to create a utopia. And you know, I know that, you know, once you die that we go forward, but uh man, it's still it's just there's so much potential here. I know, I know the mantis beings are really sad about about humanity because there there is that so much potential here, but we're we're choosing to not look at the potential. We're choosing to like my beliefs are set in stone, and and I'm going to kill you because I believe this way, you believe that way.

It's just it's just madness. So yeah, that's that's kind of like how I feel the way things are going. It's really it's really disheartening to see humanity kind of like going to this past of potential World War three and and absolute self destruction. So I guess there is Rob Fullington, and he is an experiencer, and I'm really enjoying speaking with you, and I want to thank you for joining me. There is what appears to be a government revelation

by certain intelligence officers. You may have been paying attention, and the latest, and this has been going on for decades, is that there is supposed to be a major disclosure in twenty twenty seven. Every year this is seems to be another date or something like that. Have you been given any information or do you have an insight into more of a global disclosure where we are told that we're not the only ones here and almost like a star trek scenario,

your Earth is part of a collective of planets. And by the way, take care of Gaya because you need to so forth. And so what do you say to that? Uh? Uh? From from my understanding on the disclosure thing, one thing that was always pushed on me from the beginning was that don't expect disclosure to come from the government, at least full disclosure. It's it's it's about weapons obviously, right. The sad the saddest thing that I can possibly think of is if you, if you think about it,

that the technology to completely radically change this world for the better. Right, We're talking the technology to end to end all diseases, the technology to travel travel the stars, the technology to end in fossil fuels, the technology to stop the destruction of our planet. And what what what what do we do with it? We use it? We hide it from our enemies,

right, So they hide it from our enemies. They try to reiverse injured near it so that way they can create weapons the better kill other people in war. It's that's that's the saddest thing I can possibly think of. And I thought that that that's the main reason why they're the governments won't won't fully

disclose because they want they're hiding their their hiding their weapons. Right now, I don't know that as a fact, and I don't know if they're what they're hiding or anything like that, just the I mean, it's just should be obvious that that's that's what this is about, right, And so I don't think, I don't think true the disclosure is going to come from them if if it, if it does come from government, I think you got

one or two two things here. One it's it's bullshit, right, it's a little it's a little truth with a little bit of truth, but mostly completely bs or it comes out, and they didn't want it to come out, right So whatever whatever they're planning or whatever infighting they got going on in

the government beyond me. But I feel like if the truth was to come out from that arena, it's definitely not it's not planned, and they don't want it to come out right now with the EPs themselves, you know, I've always had this inner debate with myself, is humanity even ready for this reality? Right? I mean, what happens if you have ten thousand ships in the sky. All of a sudden, they're like, oh, by the way, we're here. You know, one most most people still are

arguing the point that they don't exist. Right, Oh, it's they don't exist. We're stuck in this science bubble about what's possible. Right. But then you've got religion, Well, my religion, my religious family out there, you know, uh disowned me because they thought that I was interacting with

demons. Right relatives Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, some blood relatives of mine that were really uh religious, right, and so and myself have I come from a Christian Christian background, so you know, I still I still kind of hold some of the some of the beliefs, but yeah, they just completely rejected me. And so with really with religion, you know, it's still a super it's still a superstition. When it comes to the ets, right, it's like they're focused like, oh, they're they're demonic.

They don't also focus on they say fallen angels, but fallen angels are angels. So angels etes demons and angels, you know, but they yeah, that's that's that's a big that's a big mess. But I don't think I don't think people are ready for it really. Maybe maybe there is a big chunk of the population that is, but I think they're just kind of up there trying to decide, like, well, we're watching them destroy each other. Is there going to be a moment in time where we reveal ourselves

to them? And I think that might be a possibility. Yeah, because maybe we get to a point where it's like, Okay, well we got to we have to, or they're going to destroy themselves. Yeah, because I do know that there's a a celestial event coming to that supposedly is going to affect the entire planet at some point in our future. Win no idea

when, but there is this celestially event that they showed me. So whatever happens, is it like the planets a line or something and it affects the energy of the planet Earth or what The super massive black hole at the center of our galaxy woke up and gave a burp, right, it fed on something and it popped, And so this wave from galactic centers is coming at us right as we kind of like we're also entering our solar systems, going

into a new area and space. That's a lot more energetic and has more of a direct line just as we come, you know, like, oh, there's our super massive black hole. It goes you know, and so we're like directly in like of course it happened about this event happened about twenty two twenty four thousand years ago, and it takes you know, twenty four

twenty two thousand years for the energy to get from there to hear. Right, So we're just now our astronomers are just now seeing this gas cloud going into the black hole and you know, oh you'll see in the news everyone, Well, the super massive black hole is flashing us for some odd reason. You know. Yeah, so that's that's this event coming from galactic center. That's it goes intacts with our Sun and then affects the magnetic field on

Earth. And so our astronomers might know about it, is what you're saying, they see maybe evidence visually, And what you're saying is you've been told that it's it's a wave of energy that's going to bathe the Earth at some point. Yeah, like our scientists will see it, but they don't. They're like, oh, yeah, that's neat you know, you know, kind of like that, like we don't. I don't know what's going to happen. Oh, it's fine, nothing's gonna happen. It can't. It's

twenty four thousand light years away from us. Well, why I think, Yeah, it's more interconnected than we. You can imagine from my understanding of black holes and suns that they That's one of the other things that kind of like gave me some knowledge on celestial objects, how that works. Do you think our ancestors were more in touch with off world types than we are today? I mentioned this because I've studied the Maya for like twenty years, and

they talk about the star people. A lot of native native cultures talk about star beings interacting with them, and perhaps it was more comfortable for them. They were more holistically involved with the Earth, and so the off world types were perhaps easier to accept. But what what do you say? I would say in our earlier points in development, that we were more spiritually advanced back then, right, Not only that, but we were we were connected to

nature. You know, there was this real intimate connection between humans and nature and these things that they don't. They don't from my understanding, they don't. They don't except for maybe some but the ones that I've interacted with, they don't care about technology at all. Right. In fact, even if you're obsessed with their technology, they're kind of like, well, we don't want to waste our time with you. You know. It's kind of more

of a of a spiritual growth that they are interested in. So, you know, are ancient people, they were more connected to nature, and they were more open, and they had that more spiritual they were more concerned with the spiritual growth, it seems like, right, So yeah, I think connection when when we lost that connection, that's when it seemed to separate a

little bit, when we went more into a superstition and modern civilization. More and more we're separating from nature and becoming more artificial, you know, with the artificial intelligences, and going more into our technology and separating from nature. So I think so, yeah, back back in the days, we had more of a connection to spirit even to compared to now where it's separated.

So I think that does affect affect it. Yeah, But then we do seem to be having a kind of like a global awakening of sorts happening at the moment too, so people are kind of more connecting to the spirit you know, in whatever way they do, people do on an individual level, so there does seem to be a more of a connection, and it does seem like they're kind of like injecting themselves more into our society in order to help advanced us, because it does seem like we are on this next stage

of human evolution. So you know, we're going from this this one society that's based on you know, superstition and the old ways, going into a new new age, into a new point of our development, you know, which is hope, hopefully more benevolent and less warring. And so it's like a transition period at the time. Then you add in a celestial event that supposedly has an effect on all of us too, so we're it's just a big transitioning period. I love that. That's a great note to end on.

Rob. I want to thank you for taking time to talk about your experience, and I'm going to just call it your alteration. Yeah, because you've been altered, and although it seems horrific and that you've been through some pretty trying times, you seem like you're somewhat together. And you know, of course you're from California like I am, so we're all considered nutty complete

nets. I want to thank you. I am going to post a couple of videos that you're featured in because you don't have a website people can go to, but we will keep in touch with you, and if you do develop a website or some blog of some kind where you're writing, I'll definitely post it for our listeners here on Destiny. So as we leave, do you have anything to leave our listeners as a final thought on what they can expect with interactions and our et brothers, I would say, just you know,

keep an open mind. Try not to put human concepts on extraterrestrials, right, So we have I noticed that that's one thing people have a bad habit of doing, is that we put our human concepts onto extraterrestrials. Right, So keep an open mind because the truth is nuttier than you can ever imagine. And then just man, it might get the road might get really bumpy, right, and so just just hang in there and try to be

the best person that you can be. You know, you know, give, give, give your family a hug, and forgiveness is going to be a big one. We're all gonna have to forgive each other if we're going to move forward, right, so forgiveness, love, hugs, thumbs ups, barbecues and you know all that fun stuff. Just live, live life and joy. Okay, because gotta ride. I'd like to know more about

that wave. And uh uh because because they've talked about celestial waves and different scientists that are in quantum physics are always talking about how Earth can be bathed with various frequencies that help with evolution, you know, and this might be how we evolve is that we get blasted or immersed in energy and all of a sudden we have a new awareness of our surroundings. So I blow your

mind. I uh ten years ten years ago, when I first kind of started coming out, I talked to actually made a prediction that came true and when it when it happened, I was like, oh my god, you're telling me that that was real. But yeah, I always uh when they showed me what what the event was like, I said, well, that's

another for another program. But I always said that this rock is going to come from space and everyone's going to say, well, this is interesting, this rock and it's going to go by the sun, and it goes by Earth and it drifts off and no one will know what that rock true was. And then my buddy goes, Rob, dude, did you see about this rock coming in? It's just like what you said. I was like, Oh my god, that means it's real. Oh no, well that's

funny. You mentioned that we have doctor av Lob on the program all the time. He is the one. He's the astronomer who identified it as not simply an asteroid, but he believed it and contigues to believe that it was an alien probe that came by our solar system to kind of scan and then

left. He has followed that up with an underwater dive of an earlier probe that passed through our atmosphere and broke up in the Pacific Ocean, and he's actually collected amples and believes they're alien craft of some kind, some alien probe. Yes, that's what they said, some sort of alien probe that they sent out a long time ago. Yeah, they've told you that, huh yeah before before it came to So it kind of blew my mind when it when it finally came and I was like, oh no, that's real.

Wow, Yeah, Hey, we're gonna have to have you back, maybe on a program where we can uh pick your mind and say, hey, what do you think of this? What do you think of this discovery your it might come clear to you, like, well, wait a minute, that was a craft. It wasn't a cloud. It was a big craft. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that happens. Yeah, I'll have to send you some of the couple of my good spaceship picks that my wife took. Yeah, I'm gonna let you go. I want to thank

you again and let's have you back on the program. All right, Yeah, sounds good. It was good, good combo. You know, as I was listening to that, I was profoundly disturbed at the fact that there is there's no government intervention. If this is going on to the level that it appears to be, thousands of people are being abducted, thousands of people are being subjected to this trauma, and our government knows about it. That's that's terrible. And yeah, I don't know what to say. It's terrible.

You know, something needs to be done. It's funny I felt helpless about this years ago, and it doesn't seem like it's gotten any better. Again. We have a black ops government that doesn't seem to in the same

manner that we have problems reporting UFOs government doesn't want to come clean. If this is true that there is a collaborative movement between the United States government and other governments and the abduction experience that people are going through, this is a sub portion of our government that we don't know about that is not discussed. It's it's horrendous. Now did you hear what he had to say regarding the Omau Mau probe that he was told that this is not a asteroid, that

it was an actual vehicle some kind. I thought that was interesting at the very end of the program. And how did av Lobe detect the fact that it wasn't an asteroid? Well, Avy tracked it as it came through our cosmos, and because it was self correcting and it had other attributes not dissimilar to a rocket or an intelligently guided craft, he basically said, this is an alien artifact. Now we're still waiting to hear from him on this.

The fragments from this new Guinea crash. Remember that's the earlier probe that broke up in our atmosphere and then was it crashed into the Ocean, Pacific Ocean. Early analysis appears that it's not from our world, but I would like to know more about what's going on. We need more people like Lobe. We need a lot more astronomers that are that are transparent, that are not

implicit in this cover up. I don't know how this plays out. I mean, is this just part of our reality that our government is in cohotes with aliens. I mean, it'd be amazing to know if they knew about the Omamaa probe. I tend to believe that Rob's correct when he says this is not going to be disclosed by our government. It's going to be independent of our government. And I get a sense, and you may have heard it in the last portion of our interview where he's basically saying government's not going

to like the disclosure, but it's going to be in their face. And

I've always felt that. I've always felt that, especially when it comes to Mars, that there's going to be a Chinese rover that's placed on the ground or Chinese satellite system that's going to orbit and they're going to reveal that there's artifacts on the planet, or it's going to be our friend Elon Musk is going to send a SpaceX mission or multiple missions to Mars, and we find out that there's not a few artifacts, that there's thousands of artifacts, and

that this is a long dead planet that had occupants in it for thousands, if not millions of years. So I guess we just have to wait and find out and take it in increments. But the purpose of my having this program and alien experience was to show you what's going on and help you. And if you are someone that is going through this, there are people out there. There is mofon mutual UFO organizations that you can speak to. You can just look it up in your phone book. Also look up Barbara Lamb.

It's part of an organization Lamb, and she's in Australia, but she does come to the United States quite often and she's affiliated with other groups. But start with Moufon. If you're really having problems and your challenge, send me an email, send it to Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com and I'll see if I can put you in touch with somebody in your area. But for the most part, there are agencies, private citizen run agencies

that are available to speak with. I can imagine that this is traumatizing and you're just not you know, knowing what to do. You're just like stuck thinking I'm screwed. I'm experiencing this and there's nothing out there. Well I think there is. There is some agencies out there, and it's an undercurrent to what should be out there. This should be explain to people. And

but how do you deal with this? You know, I mean, if they're coming from other realities and they're thousands or millions or he said billions of years in advance of us, we're screwed. I mean, we're in trouble. But maybe this is the way it's always been, you know, maybe this is part of being an earth human. If we are a byproduct of an alien intervention, maybe this is what's what it's all about. Maybe this

is Homo sapien sapient and we're an experiment. I've always thought that we were seated here, and also that the different hominins that have been found in different parts of the world or were experiments, and you know, it was to determine if they would survive, and most of them didn't survive. Homo sapien statement did survive. No way to know no way to know, so, oh God help us. If our government knows and they're not helping, that just doesn't make sense to me. So anyhow, I hope you enjoyed that

and didn't mean to frighten you. Although this is the Halloween week so it could be apropos. So anyhow, I hope you enjoyed this program. Hey, we do tours Earth Ancients Destiny Earth Ancients Special Edition the Archives. We've been doing tours now for about six years and we got a couple of great ones coming up. And you know what, this is the season for giving. It's the holiday season that's coming up, and we all give out gifts,

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It's gonna be great fun. It's gonna be a small group under fifty people because we want to just use one of our luxury buses for the tour, and we're gonna see go Beckley Tepee, Darren Kuru, the Underground City Cappadocia, and just a number of wonderful ancient sites that I've been talking about that we've discussed on this program for a number of years and we see it up close and personal. Send me an email if you want to join us.

Like I said, we're almost full. Send it to Earth Ancients the number four the letter you at gmail dot com and I'll get right back to you. That is going to be one for the books. I'm hoping to make that an annual tour simply because it's just beautiful. So I hope you can join us. All right, that's it for this program. I want to thank my guest today, Rob Fullington, coming to us from Central California. As always the team of Ruth, Thomas, Mark Foster and everyone who

makes this thing happen. You guys, rock, I really appreciate it. Appreciate your help. All right, careby well and we will talk to you next time.