Destiny: Elizabeth Anne Johnson, Know Your Dog's True Nature

we're talking mostly about dogs. And I've got an affinity for dogs since i was a kid, and I I've always felt that there was something that was very important about having an animal live with you and for you to care for them and for them to connect with you on a lot of different levels. And for me, having a dog is very very important, and they become not only a part of the family, but they're an important integral part of the family dynamic where the kids go, where you go, the dog goes.

animals that they're just not trained. It's almost like before you have a dog, you should go through a class of some kind to understand the emotions behind having an animal, learn how to train an animal, and also how to select a dog. When you go to the pound to get a dog, a rescue dog. And I've had all most of my life, I've had nothing but rescue dogs. Some of them are abandoned, a lot of them are just puppies from a litter, that that the owner couldn't

deal with, and they're wonderful. I've had wonderful, wonderful dogs. But if you and this doesn't happen too much at all, when you are.

animal in the first place. If you're taking it back, that's not a I mean, do you have a child. Do you birth a child and the child acts up and you're just gonna return it to the hospital. That's the same kind of thing we see when someone returns an animal, a dog to the shelter or to the SPCA or wherever where they purchase the animal. And I think it's atrocious. I think it's it's sad, but also

it shows a poor responsibility. If you are adopting a dog or any animal, a cat, you should understand that this is a dynamic of your family. And you don't just return the animal just because you don't have a good feeling or the dog acts up. You know, it's an animal, it's a part of the family. And we're gonna learn a little bit about that today with my guests. And so that's my two cents about adoption. When you're gonna get an animal, be prepared and remember this is an

important dynamic. It's an important part of your family. It's your child. Your animal is your child. I see this for the most part in a very positive fashion. My family brothers all have animals, and they understand that this is a child. It can be an expensive child. And I have to admit that I've had cats in the past. My most recent cat passed away a couple of years ago, and towards the end it was costing tremendous amounts of

I mean, vet bills can be extraordinarily high. And I have a brother who had a hasit arrier right now who's gone through multiple surgeries for hip issues, for various health crises. He's spent tens of thousands of dollars.

is an important contributor. So the program today is a good one because we are learning about the ancestral history of animals, most notably dogs, and we have a person who is sensitive and has come up with the archetypes for different dog personalities. And what you're going to enjoy about this show today is the fact that you can take this information. You can take the test in the book and you can determine where your dog is, which

archetype the dog is, and there's five archetypes. These are Chinese medicine archetypes that our guest today has assigned to these different dogs. And it has nothing to do and this is an interesting point that I discovered. It has nothing to do with the breed. It has to do with the dog's personality.

because I'm just moving around too much. I really would like to get another dog, but I was heartbroken. My girlfriend just lost her lab of like I think eighteen years or something. And she's like, you know, you go through the heartache. Some people take, you know, more than a year to get over it. She has no interest in getting a dog at all. But when she walks by and we're together and she walks by a dog, she stops and looks at him and goes, oh, that's

all I can tell. I can tell she's ready for uh, she's ready for getting ready for another family member. So today's program is know your dog's true nature, understanding canine personality through the five Elements. And my guest is Elizabeth Ann Johnson. You probably hear about all these amazing locations, these ancient sites we visit on Earth, Ancient Sand, here on Destiny, but I gotta tell you there's nothing like

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Five Elements. And my guest today is Elizabeth Ann Johnson, and she is a former veterinarian, technician, wildlife biologist and rehabilitator and holistic animal healer with over thirty years of experience. She works with companions, sports and aging dogs in her four Legged Wisdom and Wellness practice, and teaches with her wildlife veterinarian husband through their organization called Global Wildlife Resources.

That's a lot to buy it, Auntor, but you can tell obviously that she is very much tuned into the animal world.

there now for animal communicators. And and things like that, and you know, I think I just grew up as one of those and I have I'm very much an EmPATH and and can feel all the vibrations that come off of animals and people and you know, illness and wellness, and so it's it's just the world that I walk in. I wanted to create this book, uh so that some of this ancient magic that our indigenous culture of Chinese

medicine created so early on. And and I really feel like all indigenous cultures started with a nature based theme because that's what they had to work with for medicine. And so the Chinese did that as well, and they created this really incredible moving part system for the five

element theory. And when I discovered that, so my journey was yes, a vet tech and then started my healing practice with modalities thirty five years ago that were human modalities and I was transferring them into the animal world. And there was a small handful of us in the United States and I'm sure others around the world that were actually doing that similar thing, but it wasn't mainstream.

So now it's much more mainstream where you can get wonderful healers in whatever aspect people want to see for animals as well as humans. So that's a beautiful piece of it is it's really grown and expanded.

I'm a pack person. I like to have my pack, and I like all the dynamic and interesting socialness or non socialness of who each one has, because they are the five elements to pick set so well, and it really gives us a lot of really solid tools for gauging who the animal is and why they do what they do. And that's always fascinated me. I often think if I had taken another track, it would have been you know, animal behavior. But I really don't like statistics.

I don't believe in those sometimes, and so so I really ended up just you know, doing the work and learning a lot and having a lot of people touched by the five element lens. It was interesting. Quick story is when I was working with it. At first, you know, i'd have a new client and I would take a really good history with behaviors and per personalities and all sorts of whatever else the owner felt like they needed

to share with me of an animal. And then at the end I would I'd be palpating the animal, working with the body too, and all the vibrational aspects and energy field, and I would send the owner home with a depiction of what I thought that that animal was as an element, as a in the five element theory element and archetype. And I had the funniest thing happen.

I remember the first one, and then there were so many after that where people would come to the next visit the recheck and they would say, oh my god, I finally understand my husband. I know who he is. He's a wood element or he's a metal element. And I get it now, And they were so relieved that they had an archetypal system that they could understand, and

the understanding makes the world go around. I can't believe that they could understand it and they could take that into their relationship with their spouse, with family members, with co workers, with neighbors, you know, and they could see that with people, and it was this sort of fun life game for them, you know, in a way. And you know, not everyone latched onto it, but many did because you know, it created empathy in their hearts and

it created some acceptance. Even if you couldn't accept certain behaviors, you can accept the person now for doing those behaviors.

certainly that way. Because they've you know, they made the long journey of domestication right beside us, you know, And I write about that in the last chapter of the book, and and other places where my writings have been where we you know, we were someone was sitting by a fire and along many many many moons ago, and a dog finally came up to them' a wolf and and and became a partner in feeding and you know, birthing and all of that, and so so I actually have

had visions of that in my life where I've seen that, and I've seen myself way back then in shamanic journeys as well as as one of those people that connected with the animals so early. So so I think that there was a lot of fear surrounding it. But I think the ones with the hearts that were maybe a little more open and a little less fear based were the ones that really made that connection in the dog world.

And I think, you know, I love our Native American indigenous cultures have been really profoundly integrated with nature and each animal. And I love that. You know, if I see I have my medicine, as I've been told by many shamans, is I have a lot of animal medicine, but I have an eagle and a humming bird, and they and they laugh because they always say, oh, the biggest bird and the smallest bird. You know, that's pretty amazing.

And so I really resonate with eagles and hummingbirds and you know, and deer and some of my other medicines. Wolf is one of my medicines. Bears, my shamanic guide. He's always coming into my dreams. And every time I have dreams about with Bear, something changes in my life and it's directly in that dream. So so I think when we when we can have a foot in both worlds, we can help humans that don't merely maybe walk in

those worlds understand. And that was the goal with the book, was to try to keep a foot somewhat in both worlds. And and when for the ones that you know are open and more more integrated with you know, shamanism or any healing cultures, then I think they just they just

get it. You know, it's easy. And I think it's all the journey for all of us, because there's so many of us on this planet that that have walk a different road and take a different step, you know, and some walk backwards and some walk forwards, and so so trying to integrate that my next my next book, I one of them is going to be my dog is an EmPATH, and I think that one will have a lot more.

And and you know, I have I have dogs or horses that I see and they will come into a dream and they'll say, where have you been, you know, and I go, oh, I haven't seen this one for a while. And the next day, the very next day, their mom usually it's women calling their mom calls and says, oh,

can you come see so and so? You know, and so, it's a there is a whole system out there, as we all know that, well most of us know that you can communicate with all of all of that and so, and I believe, I believe there's a solid soul and even you know, a mouse that gets in your house,

you know. So, And I think having my hands on literally probably tens of thousands of animals and all different species, and you know, hearing the heartbeat of you know, a lion or a gorilla or it's just an incredible experience. And when you when you have experienced those, you can't not believe there's a soul in there, you know, It's it's really amazing.

powerful in the spirit world and all of that. So that was something that was a journey for me early on and made me highly sensitive as well. Helped really

open up my sensitivity. But then when I started really having a career with animals, I brought that holistic medicine in from working in that office, and then I took classes here and there and learned you know, reiki and cranio, sacral therapy and all sorts of energy healing modalities, and I just paired them up with my physical medicine modalities, you know, the ones that were more mainstream, and I just dovetailed them and they will dovetail beautifully for the

most part. I'm not big on pharmaceuticals, but I do feel there's a place for them sometimes. However, the rest

of it is just, you know, a beautiful process. If you do the dance right and you're really conscious with every animal and they're humans, and the humans goals for the animal, and you're being an advocate as well for the animal, and that's a whole another thing to learn when you're doing healing work as advocacy for the animal, and how do you do that, How do you do that dance in a way that's effective and non non protective. Where do you place yourself in that you know, it

can be tricky. So that was really some of my moments were having such success. I talked to my veterinarian when I was I don't know, I probably was twenty six, I guess twenty seven, and I said, I want to do healing work on animals. What do you think And he said, and he was an equine veterinarian, horse veterinarian, and he said do it. We need that and I said okay, And in three days I had a full time business. I mean three days literally my business.

you know. And so so Carrie was a wonderful instructor. And I had studied with a couple of Chinese fellows and another couple of women, and I was getting my feet on the ground with it. But when Carrie just seated it all in for me, and I just sort of remember the day when the world sort of shook for me, and it like shook everything into place with the five element theory and and animals that I was working with. I I finally like saw the framework of

each LM for specific animals. And then of course, driving home, I was I was typing my husband, I was typing, you know, everyone, classifying everyone I knew, and went, oh, that's why they do that, you know, that's always the response, that's why they do that. And in the last gosh, a couple of months doing the book launch, I have had numerous interviews, numerous numerous I can't even I've lost count.

But most of the time when I'm explaining the archetypes, people that are on that have animals that are my my moderators or interviewers, they're either pointing at a picture behind them on their on the wall that's one of their dogs or a horse, or they're they're going, oh, that's my dog, that's you know, And sometimes it's one word. I did a live lecture a couple of weeks ago, and and I I was talking about the lack of sentimentality in the metal dog and how they don't really

like being touched. They're very purposeful animal, and this woman just raised her hand with that's my dog, And I finally figured it out, Oh my god, you know, because every time she goes to give him a little kiss or something, he turns its head away and he just, you know, like, no, I don't really like that. I don't like you know, gushy sentimentality. That's not me. I'm this purposeful dog, you know.

And the second thing is is that one of the things that the Chinese did with this nature based system is they made they brought in seasons. So we're gonna do a seasonal approach and we're going to go around a little cycle really quick. So the first season is spring, and spring is that time when everything is just busting out of the ground, the trees are getting their leaves, everything is full of potential. There's potential in the air.

Right spring, We're all excited. The warm weather's coming and things are growing like crazy. And that's the wood element time, and the wood element dog is full of potential. They are we call them sometimes we call them the army sergeants. They are competitive, they're athletic, they're very fast learners. They love challenges, and movement is their medicine. And so I'm going to include a little pieces of support here for these animals. If somebody goes, oh, that's my dog. They eat.

Dogs cannot lay still and do nothing. They can't hang around in a house all day. They are often separation anxiety dogs. They need they need to work or have a job or be an agility. They're just they're just like springtime. You know, they're full of this energy and they're very determined too. They're really determined. So they make great police dogs, military dogs. They're afraid of almost nothing.

They really love a bonded handler, you know, somebody who's really good with them and teaching them all the time, but also giving them boundaries because they need boundaries because they just want to bust forth all the time, and they're so smart and an athletic they can do that. So that's sort of the picture of a wood element and where we One thing that we look at with these animals to classify them is their stress response, and that's really important. So I'll talk about the stress response

for each animal and the wood element. If we were talking about a human, we would use the word anger, so they revert to anger a human does when a wood element human does. Dogs don't do anger, but they do irritation. They do frustration, like if you're overtraining them and they've got it, like I got that, just move on. You know. They do protectiveness and that can lead to aggression. So you know, anger is a human word, and I don't like to use anger. I like to use the

other words because they're more applicable for the dogs. So if you've got a dog, and these dogs often utilize that aggression, which isn't imbalance in their being, but still in the police world, in the military world, and the protection world, these dogs are utilized for that aggression oftentimes. So there's you know, challenges with that, always keeping this animal balanced by giving a movement, giving them good challenges, fun,

you know, take him. It's it's a dog for you know, a twenty five year old young male that goes up in backpacks for a week at a time. You know, that's the pack. Yeah, very very active and they're incredible working dogs because they're so smart. So that's the wood element and the fire element is next, and that's the summer time element and the fire element. I call them a diva or a party animal because they're super super social and they're they just they need to be adored

and they need to be social. And these are the dogs that you know, you're walking across down a sidewalk and you look across the street and there's this dog and as soon as you look at them, they go wait ont they wag their tail and they were so happy to see you. And then you're walking a little further and the owner's paralleling the other side of the through with the dog, and you glance again because you feel like you have to, and it does it again.

And then the next thing you know, you see you feel yourself just being pulled across the street to go say hi to that dog and pet the dog, and the dog looks at you like they've known you forever, and you feel like you've known that animal forever. I mean, it's really substantial. These are like just these I call it charismatic magnetism. That's what they have, is is this warmth.

And when you think again, I said this a little bit earlier about fire, when are you know centuries millennials ago, millennium, excuse me, we were we discovered fire, and it was the best thing that ever happened, you know, because we could cook our food, we could be warm, we could do all that. So we have this innate essence in us about fire that just move towards the fire right. And the only thing about that is the fire animal has a propensity to have what we call a disturbance

of the shen and that starts with excess joy. So these are joyful animals and excess joy sounds like it should be a good thing, except when it's not right. And so when excess joy fills them up, they get to a point where we it turns into what we call a disturbance of the shen, which is a body minded spirit in Chinese medicine. And so the shen gets disturbed in it. It's akin to a panic attack. So

these dogs go into a panic attack. So I always say that their emotional range is from a nice campfire cooking your marshmallows to a forest fire burning down houses and forests entirely so, and they do have that quick emotional range.

She's And then I started walking him through the neighborhood when people are outside, or taking him into stores or walking them in town. He doesn't pull on the leash anymore because he's getting adoration from a yeah, well and adoring you know, people just are attracted in these animals. So they get petted all the time, and that's there. That's their mono, you know, that's what they need and so so yeah, so they're very interesting. And the one thing I want to just really say is that when

we have fire dogs. Anyone listening to this and you think you have a fire dog, the most important thing to do is when they are let's say they're in a dog park and they're having a blast with other dogs and they're playing and and you can see all of a sudden, the fire dog's head goes up, the tail goes up, it starts wagging really fast, and they start nipping other dogs. That's when they hit the disturbance of the shen too much fun, too much joy, yeah, And so the thing we have to do is we

have to ground ourselves. And I imagine most people know how to do that. But the quick way, the two to three second way to do it is bring your brain down to your feet and feel them on the ground, take a deep breath, and then go back with your brain down to your feet, and then walk into that dog.

Because that dog is a helium balloon now. And if you're a helium balloon too, because you're going, oh my god, I gotta go get them out of there, then you're just two helium balloon's going to fly up in the sky and it's not going to work. So you go in and you ground that animal, and that's what the animal really needs. One of the support mechanisms is an owner that's able to ground themselves when that happens and be grounded around them, and you know, just adore all there, the cuddling.

five archetypes that are identified in our pets personalities. As we're talking about these archetypes, I'm curious because you haven't given the like a possible dog breed that fits these archetypes. But I think I can see that. But the truth of the matter is all different types of dog species can have these attributes. Even though they might be a little docsin or a Chihuahua or something. They could have

a fire personality, which I love. And this is really important in this book is some people might be saying, I have a German shepherd and wait a minute, it doesn't have any of those fire elements. Maybe it has water or metal or earth or something, which is very important to get across.

see some. But you know, you also can get a little docks and that's a wood dog, yes, you know, so we kind of look at it from the other viewpoint of we don't pigeonhole them in there, but they may be. And with all the rescue dogs and cross breeds too, it's it's impossible really to do that. But so yeah, and so our next dog, Cliff, is the late summer dog, and that's Earth, and Earth is an

amazing dog. It's a nurture, kid, loving caregiver type and it's it's just this solid, supportive being in everyone's life. And it's a very happy dog too. It's it's kind of got the the charisma of the fire dog, but not quite as much. It's just this quiet charisma and people love them and they are family dogs, you know, they love having lots of people around. I always say they would invite the burglar in through the window and

show them where everything is. You know, they're not really they have a quiet protection for their kids and other animals around them. But it's not it's not any thing that's near like the wood dog, you know, with that protectiveness. And so they're just wonderful. And when I think of Earth, I think about Earth being steady, supportive. I think about Earth being and this isn't the dog, this is the element in nature. Again. I think about Earth having communities. Right, So,

forests our communities. We humans are communities and we're sub communities, and plants have communities, animals have communities, wildlife has communities. So I think about that connection of community in the Earth with that dog, because that dog loves it knows everybody in town, and everybody knows that I have an Earth dog right now, and I take him to the grocery store and everybody walks by the car and they're attracted to him because he's so friendly. He's just like

he's friendly different than the fire dog. He's like looking out the window, waging his tail and going, oh, I'm Wilbury, you know, And everybody goes up to Wilbury, you know. And it's different than that that magnetism of the fire dog. It's a different kind of magnetism, so they're wonderful and their stress response is worry. So they worry when there's change in the household. They worry when a kid goes

off to college. They worry when and animals in their farm or home is sick or dying or does pass. They worry when there's an argument in the household. They worry when a soupcase comes out. So these are all the things because they want that home structure. You know. It's like in the human world, it's often that that woman that you go to for a great hug when you need one, and she starts putting out some yummy food and it's some tea for you, and you know,

and that's how the Earth's dogs are. They just are nurtures and it's just so beautiful. So the next one is the metal dog. We talked briefly about metal, and metal in nature is rigid, right, it's not flexible. We have to do a lot of work to make a piece of metal flexible. But look at what I'm looking at, what's behind you on your background, and it's a city scape and all of that has metal in it. It's a very purposeful thing in our world. And these dogs

are very purposeful. They're working dogs, but they have to have a purpose they're working for. So these metal dogs, that's the number one word for them is purposeful. And so they don't need the sentimentality. They don't really like the touch a whole heck of a lot. They'll put up with it for their owner oftentimes, but but it's not like they really want to cuddle with you on the couch every night, and and and they just they just want to be working. They're they're very very intelligent.

Our nickname for them is the librarian because they are very much like the librarians of old, you know, our early era Cliff and and where they're They're rigid and they want things in place, and they want to know that their job is important, you know, putting the books back and guiding people. And they don't want a lot of fluff. Their stress response is grief, and that's an interesting stress response because it's kind of elusive. It can look like apathy, but they will grieve the loss of

a bonded handler. They don't trust well either. That's another thing about them. If you break trust with them, it's like they take the sword and cut the cord, you know, that's yeah, and it's really hard to get back. So these aunt it's really important to be the best version of yourself because that's what he expects or she expects, and that makes the best version of them and your

partnership together. So so that's metal and they're in autumn, I believe I said that, And they're just wonderful animals. They have a sense organ. Their sense organ is the nose. And I haven't talked too much about sense organs because we have a short time, but it's all in the book. But their nose, and so I think they have a bunch more molecules in their nose than most dogs do, you know. And we know that dogs have incredible noses across the board, but the metal element because that's the

way they integrate with the world. The Chinese believed we connect with the world through our sense organs, so they connect through their nose and definitely more molecules. I've done search and rescue in the past, and the very best rest search and rescue dogs were metal dogs. Above above all, you know, there are not necessarily the ones that can hang with going into bombing buildings and things like that,

like a wood dog can. But they can certainly get in the trenches and work really hard and be purposeful.

but it's all in the book. And yeah, and support and also old dogs and rescue dogs because rescue dogs come in with a lot of baggage. So we we integrated a chapter for old dogs and rescue dogs for each element as well, and acupoints.

because of that potential. Right, So going back to that, that dog will get tendon and ligament injuries, and the organs associated with that rules the tendons and ligaments. So it's a it's a there's all sorts of charts in the book so you can look up for each element. That, yeah, we we really try to bring in every way to learn how to understand and support these animals, and and it also goes for human beings as well. And one thing quick about the spring wood element dog. I had

an interesting discovery years ago. I was before we had all these online herbal remedy websites. I was making all my own herbal remedies and pinctures and tonics and salves in my inner shed that I had that had all my herbs in it. And one thing I discovered was that the wood element, which is a spring animal, did really by far, out of all the elements, it did the best with herbs, meaning like it healed so much

faster with herbal remedies. So herbal remedies are often most potent in the spring, right, not all of them, but a lot of them are. So there's this synergy between spring herbal remedy potential and wood spring potential. So so the two just stufftailed so beautifully. And I always for the years I've been telling everybody that you know, now you're working with hopefully great customer service on a website,

but make sure you think about that. If you have a wood dog, you know that because they will respond really well to herbs.

and you're applying this whole different Shamas shamanic world. He's kind of scratching his head guard, what the hell is she doing?

spay and neuter programs all around the world. He's a great dog catcher. Dogs love him, so he just you know, it's all easy, and he teaches people how to do that. Well. He's been to India, I forget five times, and disaster response and you know.

accuse us of emotional sensitive insensitivity. And so they really know, like they just know that, Hey, if you're down, deal with it, you know, don't try to be singing in the kitchen, you know, just just deal with your stuff so we can be connected better. Because they're so so sensitive, and they're they're like canaries in the coal mine, both for us and people around them, but also for energetic

disturbances like power lines, pesticides, herbicides. They're the dogs that often go to six seven, eight vets maybe more and can't get a diagnosis on because they're goal in life for us and coming into our life. And these dogs literally come in when we need them, when we when we need to learn something from them. And their goal is for us to evolve, to learn more about ourselves, about others, and to evolve in the world. And it's

really interesting because I've had a number of those. They are the most re home dogs typically because so I've taken on a lot of them, and I just love them. They're so deep, they're so in you know, sensitive, they're so good at animal communication. They talk way too long in the animal communication. You know, it's not you know, it's not showing you a little picture. It's not a few words. It's a whole giant story.

teach us all sorts of things. The tough thing about these dogs is there their stress response is is visceral fear. It's not just fear of things it's visceral fear, and so they need a handler that understands that and is very connected with them. They're always connected with us.

they shape shift all the time. So when we think about water in nature, it comes in all forms, right, It comes in snow, it comes in ice, miss rain, saltwater, tsunamis, compool, range, rivers, little streams, you know. I mean it's on de drops, you know, on flower, on grasstops in the morning, you know. And so water has all of this shape shifting. It does regularly, and so don't these dogs. So when they

shape shift, they shape shift into another element. And so you might see your water dog all of a sudden acting like a wood or acting like a metal, or acting like a fire dog or an earth dog. And so it's really interesting to see that. And that's how you know you have a water dog. Off you have a.

So they can't hear you, and they run down the road and you can't catch them if they're off leash. Hearing is their way of integrating with the world. Their sense organ so loud noises like fireworks, gunshots, backfires of cars, those will those will just set off that visceral fear, right And if you live in a quiet place and you don't have that, you might not see it for a while. So you might be wondering about the water dog. And they've given us this alternative method of the shape

shifting to classify them. So that's very kind of them. But yeah, it can be very very very difficult from that standpoint, but very rich and powerful from the good standpoint of having them, So.

It's it's quick and it's easy. It's like, you know, I think, let me tell.

that have these dogs. And what we'd like to do, and I'll try to make this quick cliff is we'd like to classify that dog during either the capture because summer feral dog being captured and brought into the rescue organization, or the release right at the time when that dog comes in and the owner is surrendering the dog, because we will see the stress response there and that stress those stress responses are so unique to each element that

that stress response should show up early on. And then in the rescue organization they're passing their way through it with what their needs and wants and supports. I talk

a lot about all of those in the book. What they are for that particular element and most of the time I think we'll catch it and then so then they're getting the support they need in the kennels and then they will be All of that goes in with paperwork to the possible new owner and we do sort of a it so it's like matchmaking and we do sort of a personality test on five element personality tests on the owner.

with the dog anymore. It's like, what this is a child in your family? Yes, you're giving away your son, your daughter or whatever.

And so that that is the essence of the book in my heart, you know, And I know I weaved that through the whole book as much as I could, but it is a really important factor.

did you do the quizzes? She said yeah, but somehow that didn't fit and I said yes, but he's he's only two, I believe, so he's growing into himself. So he's got, you know, a lot of dynamics. And so when he becomes this wood element for a day or a week, you just expect that high energy, you know, wants to learn, wants to go do things, can't sit still,

you know. But then she said, well sometimes he acts like sort of like an earth And I go yeah, and do you ever see a metal and she goes, well yeah, And so so part of that is remembering that the water element shape shifts.

is not you know, I didn't design this. This is ancient magic, and I.

don't know as many kennels allow that nowadays. I think you put in an application and they sort of try to figure out big.

going to be the wood dog. There's going to be this aggressive like hey, I'm here, take me home now, you know, kind of thaying. And the fire dog's going to be sitting in the front and it's gonna be wiggling, and it's gonna be looking at you right straight in the eyes, and it's it's gonna be, oh, take me home please, kind of dog, you know. And those are the ones that get that get rehomed almost all first

of the first, you know, before anybody else. The earth dog's gonna be kind of pacing a little bit, like worried a little bit with his head down but wagging his tail, and he's just gonna be, you know, like, could you take me home? Please? And he's gonna be have that look like please please. And and then the metal dog is gonna be sitting somewhere in the kennel, probably in the back, not in the front, and he's gonna be looking at the tops of the rails trying

to figure a way out. And that's gonna be the metal dog. Yeah, and the water dog's gonna be They what they do, and I've seen this so many times, is they get they slink, so they get their head down and their tails down, and they're real it's low to the ground. They can almost get, you know, halfway down, and they'll they'll look you and the eyes and then they'll slink forward and they'll stop and they'll look at

you again. And then they'll slink forward and they'll stop and they'll look at you again and decide if you're safe. They're looking to see if you're safe or not. So really, if you just learn all the archetypes and you can get into a kennel where you can pick your own dog, then you can see those behaviors. And that's the goal. With the rescues today is to get to implement a structure so that that carries through in their records, how they how they do things, because kennel staff are incredibly

empathic with these animals as well. They may not know it, but they are. They're so connected with them, and so they usually can once they learn it, and they a lot of them were excited at the expo to learn it. They're like, Oh, I want to learn more about this. This is so cool, you know, and and so yeah, that's that's the best I can do for that.

talk on there. It's not about this subject, but probably about the next book subject, which is about parallels of old dog and human aging and and yeah, so there's a lot on there, a lot of fun stuff where I'm posting some more this.

with the world around you. So, you know, I hope that it echoes out into the world around you when you when you use your training wheels with your dogs and yourself, and then you you start to heal yourself inside from you know, everything there are we know, there are some things that are you know, unimaginable and un you know, unbelievable that happen. That are all horrid. But we can we can stop the friction of of things everyday life if we learn to use this lens of five elements.

And that's really important. And I think she made a number of good points on choosing the animal for your lifestyle, your personality.

was a good fit. I think it was an excellent fit. So I might look into some other future resources for people who have pets and wanting to learn more about them. So if you enjoyed this podcast, let me know. Let me send me an email Sena to Senat to Earth Ancients the number four of the letter you at gmail dot com, and we can decide if it's something we want to continue with. So it might be kind of a nice way to supplement all the other topics that we have on the program. Hey, the year's coming to

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the itinerary. Register to come out with us, and I would love to see you again Earthangents dot com Forward slash Tours t O U R S. All right, that's it for this program. I want to think my guest today, Elizabeth and Johnson introducing her new book, Know Your Dog's True Nature. As always, the team of Gail Tour and Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen.