Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Oh, hello there, I hope you're doing well today and welcome to Destiny. Hey, we have a fascinating show today. We are covering plant medicine, specifically cannabis, plant allies and helpers if you want to chronicle them in that manner, And we've talked about cannabis a lot. I wrote a book a couple of
years ago called Cannabis and Sexual Ecstacy for Men. The title is not necessarily supposed to be focused for men, it's also women, men and women. And in that book, I chronicle the history of cannabis in use for pleasure, for sexual pleasure, for orgasm. And you know, it's funny because since that book came out, I've gotten a number of people who have emailed
me and said, I'm afraid to use it. I don't know, you know what the results will be. And the program today focuses on the benefits of using cannabis, and not only for wellness, for sexuality, for creativity, for healing, but just as a way to shift our conscious away awareness from this rat race that we're constantly dealing with, the ninety five existence, into taking a once, a couple of times a month, a break and getting altered. And that's what happens when you use cannabis. You are altered
and you are shifted. And so today's program is with a friend who's coming back to visit all. I'll mention her name in a minute, but I want to make a few comments regarding cannabis. Now in the United States, it's slowly growing, and hopefully soon within the next twenty four months or less, the federal government will legalize the use of cannabis, allowing these growers, farmers, dispensaries, and businesses to use regular banking. And this has been
a problem for a while. Currently, there are forty states that allow medical use of cannabis, and of those, forty twenty one allow recreational use of cannabis, and as of this year twenty twenty three, thirteen states are likely to legalize recreational use. We're almost at the entire country. The problem is that there's some country or some countries, some states that are still dealing with backward thinking. You know that cannabis leads to hard drugs, heroin problems like
that, that's been proven not to be true. So I am hopeful that soon the entire United States will be legal and we will see what I consider a revolution, and not only consciousness, but also a wonderful plant medicine that will be studied and used medically for the relief of pain, for the relief of and the use of various convulsive diseases. It's been shown to be wonderful for ms, and there's a whole list of health concerns that need more attention
in the healing properties of cannabis. And so this is not just a recreational drug. This has been something that has been researched and because it was illegal for so many years decades, actually you could not universities could not use it in its research, you couldn't study it. So we're gonna we're gonna see a revolution. I believe in the use of cannabis as a healing tool, specifically the properties within cannabis, the cannabinoids that are the principal compounds that are
powerful healing agents. Now today we're going to talk about using cannabis for spiritual awareness. In fact, the focus will be introducing yourself to the use of cannabis and a lot of people, like I mentioned before, when my book came out, Cannabis and Sexual Ecstasy for men were uncomfortable with the thought of
it. They thought they would lose control. And what is happening, at least in a number of states that are legal, is there's meetup groups, there's other groups, there are organizations, there are individuals who are sponsoring introductions to the use of cannabis. And what that means is and I recommend this too, is the fact that when you are trying or beginning to use cannabis,
you're being introduced to it. You have a friend or a community or a group sit with you, either in a comfortable setting or at your home while you ingest a little bit of cannabis, and the levels of consciousness come on to the in a matter of a few minutes. And when you're altered, there's all kinds of possibilities. And we'll talk about that today. Remember we have to use the intention. My intention for this experience is to have
more creativity, to feel better, to understand what's going on. We're gonna we're gonna explain this process in detail. But today we are re examining cannabis and we've had a number of people on the program over the years speak about it. We've had authors, we've had research investigators, we've had physicians. Now, if you're listening to this and you're thinking, you know, I live in a state that is has outlawed cannabis, and I don't know what
to do. One of the highlights of the book Cannabis and Sexual Ecstasy is the fact that you can do what they call cannabis tourism, where you either drive or you fly to a state that is legal, and you spend a few days in a comfortable setting in a hotel motel. You buy your cannabis at one of the dispensaries, you've researched it to ahead of time, you know the kind you want, and you experiment. You know, you experiment
with it. This is something that's been going on for decades, decades in fact in the United States, because up until a few years ago it was illegal everywhere except for perhaps California, Washington, Oregon, maybe Vermont. People would actually go to Mexico or they go to Europe and experiment. So that's kind of spendy. You don't need to do that anymore, you know, we have a number of states that you can go to. Now twenty one
in counting it where it's legal. So as you're listening today, consider that if you have a state that has an illegal has illegal issues around cannabis, so make that something to consider. So so today's program is Cannabis the Sacred plant Ally and my guest is Marguerite Rigo Goloso. Each year Earth Ancients heads to Mexico for a private tour of some of the most intriguing ruins from the
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I haven't talked about cannabis and a number of months, and it's funny because I've been so busy with these tours that are coming up and these other programs. Earth Ancients and of course Destiny are my children. And I love Destiny simply because I can talk about the personal growth, spirits, reality and wellness side of the ancient past. And today I'm going to bring back information and
I want to talk a little bit with my guests today on cannabis. Now, if you remember, I wrote a book a couple of years ago called Cannabis and Sexual Ecstasy for Men. Funny title because I really wanted it for men and women, but the publisher said, well, Cliff, it's a much more focused towards men. And I said, okay, Little did I know that that wasn't the greatest title. But anyhow, the information in that book is a lot of fun. It was fun for me to generate.
And today I want to talk not only about cannabis but also the spiritual aspects of using plant allies or plant medicine. And I had with me today returning guest Marguerite Rigoloso, and she is she wrote a book We had a couple of years ago to talk about divine conception, which was an interesting topic. But she has been working with cannabis now for a while and we're going to hear about her interactions with it and how she teaches with it. And Marguerite's
always wonderful to have you on Destiny. Great to see you. Thank you so much, Cliff for having me again. Wonderful to be here. All right, I want to jump in real quickly. The Sacred Cannabis Oracle means that you are obviously you're sensitive, your psychic or your intuitive or you came into this this spoty as a very open individual, so you can tap into what we would call the higher realms, the other dimensions, whatever you want to call it. What is the Sacred Cannabis Oracle. Talk a little bit
about that. So this is someone who works with the planned spirit of Lady Cannabis. We might call her Austereon is an ancient term for it, because it connects us with the stars to enhance our intuitive capacities and our capacities to receive direct level information from source divine Sophia, you know, other intelligences and the other dimensions. And so I never knew that cannabis could be used in that way until I started working with it back in you know, like two
thousand and five. And I started, as I began working with this plant only in ceremonial contexts, pretty much by myself. I would start getting downpours of very high level information that I knew were not just coming from my mind, and I would almost not even know what I was saying. I would kind of get out, almost get into babbling. And I recorded every single one of these sessions that I've ever done, and at some point, you know, I realized, Wow, I think I am channeling here. And
I like to call it serving as the oracle. I use the older, more respected term from ancient Greece and the ancient Western world. So I have been using cannabis in an oracle state, or to induce an oracle state, on and off since two thousand and five or so, and with a hiatus
that we could talk about. And it is only now that it is becoming legal and more and more states, and more and more countries and so forth, that I am feeling the courage and the call to work with it with others and to help U cultivate their own open oracle state enhanced by in cooperation with this plant spirit. Okay, so as a as an oracle? Is
this in a classroom setting? Is this individual therapeutic sessions that you're presenting this energy in and give us a sense of the plant medicine of cannabis, because it has an intelligence of its own. This is what the beauty of cannabis. It has an innate intelligence that's very old. And if you can be quiet enough as you're altered, yes, you can really gain some fascinating information
for creative for a variety of purposes that we'll talk about today. But give us a little bit of background on and perhaps a case study of working with somebody and this as you call it, lady cannabis, Yeah, lady cannabis. Yeah. You know they call a lot of the medicines iahwuasca and some
of these others. Lady, And a colleague of mine, Connie Vivos, who's been in and around cannabis for quite a while, said that it came to her that this plant wanted to be called Lady Cannabis if you when you refer to the cannabis name, because there are many other names as we know, when it's Santa Maria. And then I can tell you what I received as an oracle using cannabis about her name. And as I mentioned back in the ancient world, I believe it was called Austerion okay, aust the stars
the starry realm connection. So, um, how I have worked with it with others is you know, I'm not like in PS. Seventy two talking up at the top of the classroom though with this No, it's actually been very private because you know, for years and years and years it was not legal to have it, possess it, use it, and so forth. And I just felt the long arm of the inquisition like that, Yeah,
it's still coming into my space around it. So I had to be very quiet about it, even though I was a public spiritual teacher starting before you know, twenty twelve when I created my Seven Sisters Mystery School. And so the way I have used it for myself personally is one thing which I'll mentioned, and then how I've worked it with others is another, and then how I'm going to be working with it with others is a third thing. Okay,
how I work with it myself. I have never ever used it recreationally, meaning I don't just light up at the end of the day to kick my feet up or on the weekend or with ends or whatever. No, I have always created an altar. I make a special time when I'm doing this. It's usually been at night. I set up an elaborate altar with offerings, prayers, incense music that stimulates the opening, you know, trance inducing music, and then I go into I smoke with a pipe, and
then I go into the state. I ask for permission to enter the realms, the halls of the o amentee as I call it, and then I begin, you know, as it comes into opening me. I begin to receive information. Often there's news for me, you know, spiritual psychic news. And then I usually have an intention and a list of questions of what I want to look at, and we just go on a journey and I record it. Yeah, it's recorded. And sometimes this has informed my teaching
information of classes that I do, books that I have written. It has informed some of that some very high level wild out there esoteric stuff, and
you know it is just basically informed my whole body and mind spirit. When I started working with cannabis, I would shake and I would hiss, which made me understand that the Delphic Oracle probably had used cannabis as one of her methods of opening, and she was called like either the serpent or the dragon, the Dakaina, and I would start hissing, and I understood, oh my god, you know, I am embodying this energy of the of the
serpent dragon, you know, into myself. And then as I as I began to integrate the vibration and the frequency more and more into my body, mind, spirit, that doesn't happen anymore. But so that's how I've worked with cannabis for myself. When I have been working with others as of thus far, it's been as a sitter. So someone comes to my place or it will become an online as well, and we set the sacred space, you know, we invoke, invoke protection. That's always a big thing for
me as well, and then I let the person start imbibing. I sit there as a sitter. I you know, they have their intention, their questions. We go through it and I am a sounding board, I am a witness, I am a deepener for what they're doing, what they're going through, what they're experiencing, either for themselves or to receive information oracle information and service to their their families, communities and our world, our galaxy.
Okay. And then in future, how I'm going to be working is one on one, probably primarily online, but we have you know, we'll talk about this more at the end. We have now the Seven Sisters Sacred Feminine Plant Medicine Academy, which is going to be end of May through end of July twenty twenty three, and we're going to be Cannabis is one of the modules. We're going to be having an online ceremony that will be the first
time that I've done this a ceremony with others Okay. And I've also started doing an online monthly YouTube show called co Creating the New Earth, and every other month I go into cannabis State, which is what has even inspired us to It is what has been a springboard for me to open back into cannabis again and start communicating about it. Serving in this way and having conversations such as this, you are using it back and like I think you said two
thousand and five. I was re introduced to it in twenty sixteen, so you're a little ahead of me. But there's a lot of things, and I want you to comment on this a little bit. When I was in college, the cannabis was of such a low grade that we just didn't have the same type of alteration alteration now conscious shift when we're using the cannabis today. And I think the issue that a lot of people have is that they start using cannabis and they don't have guidance, and this is the big problem.
Yeah, yeah, And I try to give some guidance in my cannabis book, But I think that with any drug, with any plant medicine, I should say you need to have you need to be really aware of what
you're doing with it. The intention is critical at the very beginning. And I just want those listening to understand that if you haven't used cannabis and you're thinking about it, we're gonna in a few minutes here we're gonna talk about ways to begin not only finding cannabis, because it's becoming more and more available. I think a third of the United States now is legal and more and more states are making it recreationally legal, so you can experiment with it.
And I will say this, and Marguerite mentioned this in the very beginning, Cannabis is the most loving consciousness that you can work with and exploring not only your own awareness, but you can use it for healing. I mean my whole books on sexuality. You can use it for insight, as Marguerite mentioned, and in the very beginning, you may you may want to find a group, and I think the Seven Sisters Mystery School might be someplace you could
check out. And Marguerite, I don't know if you recommend and work with people who are introducing themselves to cannabis, you do, yes, I will be doing that pretty much on the heels of this Sacred Plant Medicine Academy inauguration, Okay, because I feel it is very critical for people exactly, and I wanted to just mention this here in the Bay Area, we tend to
be a little ahead of the curve. But I've discovered that there are meet up groups and pretty much all the major cities around the United States that have cannabis groups, and this is something you can consider. You go and you introduce yourself and there's usually somebody there who will talk about cannabis and you know, perhaps the different strains and what they're good for, and then there's an
introduction. And this is the big suggestion I have for those of you who are not familiar with cannabis, have somebody guide you through your first few experiences, because it is not ayahuasca or LSD or d MT where you are losing control of your ability to comprehend and function. Cannabis is a very light psychedelic Uh. It's it's a it's you know, it's something that you set an
intention and the beauty, the beauty behind it. And I want to hear from you Marguerite on this is that by setting an intention, you are setting a program to allow this plant medicine to work with you in a way that you want and that can be Hello, I would like to experience this alteration. I want to feel this. I want to see what it's all about.
Please guide me, you can, They say, it's kind of almost like a prayer, Please guide me as I as I experienced this, and I'd like to have a good experience, because we don't want to have a bad experience. But what would you say in terms of introduction, What is your feeling, Margarite on that. I completely agree with you, Cliff, and I'm so glad to hear you saying it, because I have not been totally tuned into the cannabis world and the public cannabis world. But I sometimes,
as usual, feel like I'm a lone voice. You know, when it comes to rigor integrity, working appropriately with plants and so forth, there's just so much use and misuse and profligate wasting of the experience and then getting into trouble. You can get into paranoia, you can get into addictions. You know, let's be real, Okay, cannabis can have addiction entities hooped right into it. Okay. It's really about a combination of things, intension
as well as your karma with the plant. Okay, because now clearly you have a good karma with this plant. Whatever past life experiences you've had are coming to bear here. People have all different types of things. And what I have been in Oracle state receiving from cannabis directly is that is a direct response of what you've done with for you know, and of cannabis in past lives. And if you've got paranoia it's because there's a misuse function that you
want to clear up. If you get into addictions, it's because there's something you needed to clear up. Right, So if if you get physical pain with it, sometimes the same thing. So this is critical and I highly do recommend people who start out seek a mentor even a wise friend who can be a sober sitter for you, guiding you, asking you questions, helping you stay with one foot in three dimensions as you cite yourself up, you
know, into the upper dimensions. And even better if you have a wise guide, a teacher, an elder, you know, who knows these halls of a mentee and so forth and so on. Because while you, Cliff, have had, you know, these beautiful experiences and it's a gentle teacher for you, and you've used it for sexual assistance and you know, pleasure and things like that. Other people have different things like for me, it
was like a safe entry point to the underworld. I can tell you for seriously more than ten years, that is right where I would go with this man you know, or anything about you. It's just for research writing or were you looking at your shadow this? Okay? Number one, I was looking at my shadow, and I was looking at my karma, so I couldn't even use anything stronger. I would never even dream of ayahuasca, and even mushrooms were too much for me. Okay, I'll talk about the underworld.
It was like the bottom rung of the underworld. I would go. So cannabis was like a little bit more of a where I was a little more in the driver's seat with it. But man, you know, clearly my soul wanted to know a lot about the difficult dimensions and whether we want to call them hell realms or whether we want to call them just the challenging
aspects of realities and the dimensions. For some rea reason, I was always going there for my first round of cannabis, before the break during the big sea that happened where two years I was guided to not use it at all. Yeah, and now I'm in it with a whole other energy. I'm
not going directly to the ground floor of the underworld anymore. Yeah. I'm telling you, though, there's nothing like the underworld for getting wisdom teachings, right, Like, Yeah, you get pretty gosh darn intense information about the universe and the world the way it works. What's really going on as well as you know your own shadow, your own karma, your own transgressions,
what you've done, how you need to heal that. Right, So this is no joke, this medicine, you know, for playing around in it, It's just no joke. Right, So let's let's start. So those are you listening who are interested in exploring plant medicine. Hope, hopefully you're in a state where cannabis is legal. You can go to the dispensary, You do a little research, and you discover that I would like to explore my creativity. If you don't know what strain you're interested in, you go
to the bud tender. Remember I don't suggest bud tenders as a great reference because they're looking at a lot of different people and they may not know specifically the best strains. So I really suggest that you go online and you find the strains that are good for what you're trying to achieve, which is in this case, creativity. You go to the bud tender at the dispensary and
they suggest a plant medicine. You bring it home. Hopefully you can do either a group setting where you're exploring with others, or you have a friend and you know, don't feel uncomfortable. Say look, I haven't used this before. I'd love you to be there with me. It could be a girlfriend, a boyfriend, whatever, somebody who is somewhat experienced who can just
watch you and be with you. So that you have somebody who is somewhat knowledgeable in plant medicines or cannabis, so you inhale it, you take it in remembering that your intention is your software. In other words, your intention is going to lead your higher wisdom to say, okay, plant medicine, spiritual ally, this is what I want to achieve in this first setting. And as you become altered, and it's a it's very very light. My friends, listen to me. It's not like we've had Graham Cancock gone here.
We've had people who are loving ayahuasca. Ayahuasca overwhelmed takes over. You have to un you have to actually release into it. In many cases, cannabis is a very gentle alteration, altered state of consciousness. And I'm laughing because it's it's really wonderful when you ask for permission. When you ask for you said an intention, and you have a nice setting. It's relax you have a friend there, or you're in a group and you have this cannabis
that you have chosen for a specific person. Now, this is what's so great about cannabis now compared to twenty years ago. They have designer cannabis. Marguerite, you're in Massachusetts, there must be dispensaries everywhere that you Oh my god, I have one like a block away. Literally, they're all peppered everywhere. I'm curious the bud tenders. Are they somewhat knowledgeable where you go
in? Yeah? I mean I say, well, I would like to go into a deep or altered state experience, and they're like, okay, Sativa, and then use this one. And one was called like spaceships something, right, that's the one that bought your wants the alien ship one. Yes, give for that, you know, so um yeah, they'll they generally know how to guide you, and you know, you can experiment around with it in in your dispensary, like try this one, try that one
and notice yourself become your research. Is there a difference? What is it exactly? Now? One of the things I want to mention real quickly is that there is a great deal of abuse when it comes to cannabis. And when I say abuse, I have a lot of people who have emailed me and say, hey, man, I use it every single day for my post traumatic stress disorder. Yeah, or I use it for my pain. I have a bone pain. You know, we're not talking about degenerate disease.
We're not talking about cancer or MS or I'm talking about general issues. Right. This has become a problem because the cannabis was never meant to be used as every single day kind of a patch or remedy. I totally agree with you. And that is, believe it or not, apparently a controversial statement. It is. It is because people fells it's natural. I should be able to use it, right, But the our ancestors didn't use it
in that manner. The native indigenous people who use it today once a week, once every two weeks, a couple of times a month as a ceremonial tool, that's right. I do every four to eight weeks. And the minute I started transgressing on that and making it a shorter time, it was during the time of the Big Sea. I had a bad experience on it.
That there were a lot of factors that were contributing to that, including that it was from someone, I mean clearly who knows what was going on with that, but it kicked my ass, and it was like no two year hiatus, you know. And the really the two year hiatus thing was it is not safe for you during this time of the big Sea to go onto the astral plane. There's too much going on up there. There's warfare,
and you don't want to be in it. But it happened to correspond with a time where I was starting to get a little too cushy and go, let me go in two weeks now because I want a little bit more information. M m. So if cannabis kicks your ass, you're lucky because you're not going to get into an addiction pattern with it, okay, Because here's my understanding of addiction. Addiction is when entities that are separate from the plant hook right into your oric field when you are using the plant, and
this is smoothed out and opened up. The more and more and more you use the plant, those openings become more hookable and the entities, addiction entities and other types of programs will come right in hook you and then take control over your use of cannabis or anything else. That's addictive, and suddenly it's not about you and your relationship with the plant and everything. It's about you the plant and this and these entities in a triangle, and usually they're running
the show because the food that they get is your lack of integrity. Energy is your feeling out of control. Energy is you're suddenly you realize you can't do without it in a day, and now there's an energy there for you. These entities feed off that, like, so they like to encourage this, right, and this is what is going on along with the legalization.
These entities are out in full force. And it's even I would say, what I've channeled is that it's part of so they knew they couldn't hold their finger in the dike to keep it illegal and keep people from getting their information forever. Right, So now these great beings that are negative are doing the other tack. They're like, great, make it legal and usable for everyone,
and we're going to get in that way. We're going to mess it up and mess up people's oracle abilities by turning it into addiction and stoneerism. Okay, that's what we have to watch out for. When I first got back into public cannabis use. In December twenty twenty two, I did my
first public oracle on my YouTube channel Live. It was about Lady Cannabis, and she had all this information and she's like, look, you got to understand that this whole legalization throughout the world is bringing in a whole other hijack. Yeah, and you got to be discerning about what that hijack is so that you can still continue to work in harmony with this plant and not be taken over in another direction, which is just as bad as having it suppressed.
Exactly. This is really why these groups like yours are really really critical. I was looking at a Los Angeles group on cannabis where they I think it was an introduction to cannabis and it was meeting your higher self, which I thought was a really great theme. Let's see yeah, and let's see yeah, and so there you are, you're guided by a facilitator. I even think they suggested the strain to use, and they were doing these introductions
to consciousness expansion with very short you know hits. You do take a quick inhalation and with a very low strain. That's the other thing I want to remind people when you start using cannabis, your percentage of THHC needs to be low and needs to be in this low teens, twelve to fifteen percent THHC, which is the psychoactive property. So as you're as you inhale, your body is altered, but it's not a severe alter. It's not like you're
gonna go spinning off into space. You're going to be in control. And by the way, you're always in control with cannabis. If you even if you smoke a very potent strain, there are techniques that you can use to get out and feel a lot better. You can stand, you can eat something, you can drink a lot of fluids, which is wonderful. Take a shower. Yeah, that's another one, take a shower. But so these groups. Look for these groups if you're wanting to be introduced to cannabis,
and I really urge you to consider using it. And why do we want to use cannabis? Okay, tapping into the higher realms. Marguerite mentioned a few things. And one of the techniques that I suggest, and I think you mentioned it as well, Marguerite, is the is after say two or three experiences, you want to you want to know what your higher self was about you want to know what your soul levels about. So what you do is you set the intention I'd like to learn about myself and I want
to have a response from my higher wisdom. And what I suggest and what a lot of other people are suggesting, is have a series of questions written before your experience and say make it easy. To make it four to seven. Don't don't get not two five or six pages you read who had fifteen twenty twenty five? Oh my god, why she was in the ends of
world here? I swear. I mean I would be like, oh my god, I know, so I got all these questions right, and I'd be at it for hours, which I would love, you know, I'd plan that out, but and you can do that. But it was like, yeah, you know me, I love to go high octane. But you're right, like, if you're wanting to get introduced, ease into it. You know, that's what we're going to do in our group ceremonies. Like we're not going to be like wild out there with the right it's going
to be ease into it. Notice the moment when you start feeling altered, right, you know, like get aware of your body mind spirit, what thoughts start coming in right right, that kind of thing. Yeah, and you mentioned recording. This is the other thing I recommend is there are free apps on your iPhone or are your other phones that you can download and they'll they'll run right with you. You can turn it on. Have your questions
four to six maybe more questions. When you when you're really feeling good and you have this relaxed feeling, ask yourself a couple of questions, let it sit and then just answer them yourself. Let it come through the what does this mean? What is the feeling? Who are you my higher self? How long have you been with me? Blah blah blah. And that's you become the oracle of your own life. Very good. Yeah, you become
an oracle for yourself. And we all have this ability to do this, even the analytical mind in many in many accounts, it might even take you to two experiences if you're new to it, to have this full download come through and say, hi, you know, I've been with you, you know, many lifetimes. I've been with you all the time. I've been with you since you were young. You know, if you're really after a while after you know, and I've heard people do this. These other lifetimes
begin popping up, and you right, I was this. I was that. I was Oh boy, watch out, yeah yeah, talk a little bit about that marguerite downloading some past life step because that's fascinating. I found the good, the bad, and the ugly and myself. Cannabis is the one who humbled me in this lifetime from lifetimes of misusing my power being a high and mighty queen and you know, harming other people through that process. And it showed me. I was like, oh my god, I think
that I've like I exposed a child to death in one life. I think that I was an inquisitor. I think that I would gladded ah. And whether it is that you are dealing with personal past lives or collective doesn't matter. You're having the experience of being you know, tick no on Hans poem show Me Call Me by My True Names, where I'm the murderer and the one murdered. Right. That is a very deep teaching that cannabis and other medicines can give you to help you get off any high horse that you're on
and othering of other people to understand it's all within yourself. As we understand that, then we can go about our healing process with others and with our world in a much more deep, immature way. And that's what we're needing in this world. We're not needing more warfare. We're needing more self responsibility, right and understanding. Hey, I was the one who was doing that one lifetime ago, right right, Yeah. I like that our ancestors used
cannabis for oracle like topics. Not everybody was looking at cannabis for that insight. But I think it's a great way to start because you can ask questions about yourself. If you're having a relationship problem, what's going on with me? Why am I reacting to her? To him this way? Lifestyles, what's going on with my parents, my friends, this job? Real basic stuff, and then you can get into some really fun things like Marguerite was
mentioning, you know, what was I my last lifetime? Why? I mean, big questions, And remember, if it's recorded, you don't have to write it down. It's just whatever it's. Spit it out, you know, spit it out. You'll be surprised even at your first experience what you can what can be downloaded to you. I use it occasionally for answering questions about blockages, writing blockages and things like that. It blocks creative blocks, right, accessing creativity in any of the arts, you know those types
of things. Right. And let me add, depending on your pastic life experience with the plant or with oracle frequencies, you may find that you are at different air streams. Let's say I think I went right to the stratospheric air stream at the beginning of my cannabis use. I was not like the
one oh one level. It was like, holy Cow, I'm thinking about you know, aliens and this and that and the other thing, the whole underworld domain, all past life, Egypt, past life, grease, so you know, and I think that you can and also work up to that, you know. Or what's happening for me is I'm working down from that, which is so interesting. Right Like I started out in that high level
halls of AMENTI, I'm going into the underworld. Show me about the negative aliens and you know all this and that the demonic and now after that, Hiatus and I had done a lot of work with Mother Mary and the Holy Family, which, by the way, Santa Madia is a name of cannabis for a reason, and we can talk about that. Now I can be more enjoying because I've worked through a whole bunch of karma and realizations and communications I needed to give to the world through my work. Now I can enjoy
a little bit more like the love element. Okay, calm and relax and be in that space, be working with the subtle beings known as the fae. Right, So it's like the topics now and the energies are shifting form me. And this is a lifelong journey that you can be on right depending yeah your life, the astrology at times. You know all of this. I'm going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves and we will be right back with more on cannabis, the sacred plant.
Ally, we'll be right back. I guess today is Marguerite Rigo Goloso. She is a facilitator for those who are interested in using cannabis for spiritual activation, and she's coming to us from Massachusetts today and we're learning more about how to use cannabis for healing, for creativity, and for spiritual enlightenment. And I want you to answer. I'm going to talk for a minute about realities,
and I want you to follow up with the thought. But one of the things that we don't do enough is shift out of our day to day reality. And some people would think taking using cannabis is a crutch, but
it really isn't. Our ancestors, the native indigenous people of Americas and around the world, used it to shift out of their current consciousness and tap in and pick up knowledge not only of what is going on with their daily life, but here from perhaps ancestors would come through, perhaps someone who's dearly departed. This allows using cannabis allows you to shift into other realms, other levels of consciousness and the skies of limit. In many ways, it's a beginning
tool. It's not like using ayahuasca, DMT or LSD where you're forced into these catapulted to intense levels. It's a really soft way to introduce into these altered states of consciousness that are vital as a as a human being to use. And I think everyone should consider using. Man, everybody's gonna want Two people are like, hey, I dig where I'm at. I don't need to use it, but believe me, and especially in the way with our complex society where we are bombarded by our internet, by our TikTok, by
social media, by family. We lose a sense of ourself and we lose a sense of who we are. And we're not just physical beings. We're physical, emotional, and spiritual beings. In fact, more so than that, we're this multidimensional, multi consciousness that you can tap into. And my suggestion is to use cannabis as a consciousness tool. It's a gentle too.
I can't tell you enough about the experience itself when you use the tools that we're talking about, the intention, the knowledge of the cannabis strain that we're using, a comfortable and safe setting and for the first a couple of times, a mentor or a group. So what do you say to that totally agree with you? That will help you also to work through anything that might come up, because sometimes, you know, like I said, for you, it's gentle. For not everybody, it is depending on their karma,
depending on their used past and past lives with the plant. Stuff can come up and you want because also the plant is healing you, it's not like it's tormenting you. But if poy is coming up, what's that about? Right? If fears are coming up, what's that about? If emotions are coming up, what's that about? That's why having that mentor there who is knowledgeable and can guide you to work through your emotional healing. So then the
plant becomes a method of emotional energetic healing. Things you can move through, and then you can work with the plant in newer and deeper way days over time. You know, Yes, very very important, and I think that there are other plant medicines that are similar in that cacao for example, But my experience with cacao is as much more earthy. Where cannabis I am in the astral plane, I'm in the upper chakras. Cacao I'm in the heart
and downward. It's feel very connected with the earth, and there's information flowing, but it's more oriented toward the heart. It's more oriented toward Mother Earth than there's blue lotus, you know, which is like a lighter, a lighter even version of cannabis and so forth. So each of their the plants has their properties and their characteristics and the types of things you'll experience. So yes, I mean, I think a really guided introductory use and I also
tell people trust your instincts. If you are not being called to cannabis, then it is not your plant ally exactly. Yeah, and it might be your plan ally am a year or two or three or five down the line. Fine. You know, it was not my plan ally for the whole first until I was what forty years old or more when I started using it and I trusted my instincts. I agreed to to use mushrooms. But prior to that, like, I had this sense that it was going to blow
me open. And you know, I know, alahuasca not going to be my plan ally, at least not right now. You know, I'm really afraid to try that. I mean, I'm afraid of it, you know, and trust trust that good fear. I mean, if you want to try a plan ally, what you want is like an excited anticipation or like you know, more much more yes than nope, Okay, that's that's what you want to use as your guide. Yeah, Because and then just ask spirit, well, what is my medicine? What is my plant medicine?
And also, you know, Cliff, what I received in that very ceremony that that started me again and into my public cannabis oracle work. It said that, um now I lost. I just lost my train of thought. Um uh. It was something about about the amount of use. I know it, I know it will come back to me. Um. I mean it was dosage. Yeah, dosage is number one, but it was also there was another really important point. It'll it'll come back to me. It
just it just went out the window. Um. Yeah. We've given people a sense of how to begin with it, the environment to start with. But once you begin and you've gotten over the beginning, you have a you get the feeling of the cannabis. Yeah. The tools, the tension, the setting, and the strain are your goals. Those those are your tools
to have an experience. I want you to talk a little bit about working with feminine energy, women who are perhaps wanting to connect with the feminine and perhaps and this is our society is kind of screwed up right now, especially the West. You know, it was like what does it mean to be a woman, what does it mean to be feminine and versus masculine? So far, talk a little bit about working with cannabis and the feminine. Yeah,
because you know, women need to reclaim these plants. I mean, you may be familiar with the work of like U is it Christian Rach and Brian Murra Rescue the Immortality key and like this, who are like, hey, the priestesses and then the witches were the ones who were in charge of all this stuff. Yeah oo new, you know, because when I came into it, it was like guys smoking in a haze getting stoned. And
that was my interpretation of plant medicine. Yeah, checking out and then going to these conferences where men largely dominate the space, dominate the dialogue, dominate, the agendas, dominate the approach to these plants, and sometimes in that there's abuse energies that go on, and what you need is that feminine. There was a group in the Bay Area a number of years ago by this woman Annie Oak, and I'm not sure if she's still doing this conference.
I don't know if it was like a woman plant medicine conference or something like that. That was so great because she was trying to reclaim this for women and not as like the sidekick to Terence McKenna or the girlfriend of whoever, right, but more no, the women reclaiming the medicines, reclaiming the history, reclaiming the potions because part of these medicines getting cut off from women and
the feminine was part of this negative interdimensional agenda. That's a really good point, and this is you're you're picking up on previous times when women were you know, objectified, but only that they were punished for using and becoming sensitive to the earth as you know, paganism or witches and wika, whatever you want to call it. Think of the hundreds of years that women were killed as witches for having this knowledge, you know. And the who who narrowly
escape that was Hildegarde of Bingen back in eleven hundred or twelve hundred. Not so much though she didn't have such a good ending to her life. But I'm telling you she had to be doing plant She was a plant medicine woman. She went out into the fields this and that, and then all of a sudden she's like having these visions and drawing these things. And it's like, how do you think she came up with that? You know? Oh,
I know. What I wanted to say earlier is that the plant is the teacher to help humans remember how we used to be all the time, which is open to divine source creator in eras such as Lemuria, that we might call it pre fall eras of humanity on the earth. This is how we used to be. This is why people get addicted, because yeah, they want to be in that twenty four seven. That's a good point. We want this return to us. We want this state of intimate connection with
the cosmos return to us. We want to walk around with it. But the thing is, our job now is to integrate five D and higher into three D. We cannot just be lying down in the opium den all day long. We are meant to integrate this And how is this going to happen? Well, basically, what she told me is that the plant is just the teacher for teaching you the vibration that she wants you to then replicate on your own. Yeah, now, that is a discipline. That's for people.
They get lazy, they get they're tired, they're this, they're that, they don't want to do it. They just want to let the plant do it at the end of the day or whatever, when maybe you should alternate with going into a meditative state to get and go what was that plant vibration? Oh yeah, let me replicate it, because you know, the plants told me how to be psychic when I went to psychic class during this period when I was working with cannabis, I wasn't an initially all that psychic.
The only way I would know that I had tuned into the psychic realm was like, oh, yeah, this feels kind of like the cannabis vibration. The plant taught me how to do that, right, so I can kind of do it on will at will without the plant. So this is what we're teaching each other. Yes, everyone wants to be in ease, peace, ecstasy, connection with divine information, but we've got to be careful because right now there are too many addiction memes that are interfering with our space.
Yea, and meant to learn how to get that vibration and the cannabinoids going whether we are smoking, eating, vaping or not. That's a good point. You can smoke it, you can eat it, which is really those are powerful. And then I guess you can use drops to theo's THHC drops that you can use tinkshus. I haven't done. I haven't done the
tinkshus yet. I've done yeah, strong. I want to let people know and if you haven't figured it out yet, there's so many uses for this great plant medicine, Cannabis as a beginner discovering the intelligence of cannabis, experiencing as a gentle ally to take you to a higher level. Because when you're altered, you're looking at everything differently. You work at TV looks different, your interactions, your your language looks different. You hear things that are unusual.
If you can get out in nature, like your backyard, it's just hu, Yeah, because the colors look different, and you might start having a perception of the subtle beings just on the other side of the veil, right, you might start having animal communications. Yeah, you can start kick You can kickstart a lot of stuff. It's great for creative inspiration. I've used it in for different chapters and books articles. Remember give yourself the ability
to respond to it by recording. Margarete, you mentioned recording it. I think it's a great idea because in the beginning, you may want to know what's going on, and you the experience might be so overwhelming that you can't remember what happened. But if you record a few items, it will come back to you. That's right. And those are precious jewels of wisdom for
you, exactly precious teachings. You want to remember them. And it really does help to record or write in some manner because you think, oh, I'll never forget this, but you know, te it can go out the window. That's true, That's very true. The other thing that we haven't really talked about is healing, and I find that using cannabis when you've been had a really hard week and you're feeling kind of down, it can help
with that. We don't want to use it if you're if you have clinical depression, or you have any kind of issues with personality problems and you're taking medicines for that. It's not a good it's not a good product for that, it's not a good plant helper. But it's wonderful for sexual awakening both men and women. You can have some of the most powerful orgasms. That's what my whole books about, which the our ancestors not only cultivated but developed
a whole system around orgasm, which is the tontric yogic traditions. And we've talked about that in the past. But what else, Marguerite, what else can we use cannabis for that is helpful and beneficial? Well, you know, I'll have what you're having because when I because when I use cannabis, I am in my head it is hard for me to be sexual with cannabis, and I know I'm not alone with that. So lucky you. What a great karma that you have. You know, I had the intention,
I mean the whole chapter in my block. All right, I think, you know, maybe I'll I'll experiment with that, like, okay, Lady Cannabis, you know, please show me what it is to get into my lower chakras and be have that with you, because I'm always like the oracle, you should turn off the vocal chords and work more towards the lower shop. Actually, so I think I'm going to do that. I think that it's it is a journey, it's it's an intention. Um, so let's
look more into it. You know, people who even had dare I say, sexual trauma? What might cannabis be able to help with U? Right? Okay? Uh? Releasing you can also I was shown work with Lady Cannabis to release your addiction of Lady cannabis. Interesting somebody who's using it like perhaps a little too much? Yeah, and then work with her to show you what are the entities connected with this? How do you release them? And how do you get into rite relationship with this plant so that they don't
have entry anymore. You know, what's your dosage, what's your frequency, what's your intention? Right, Yeah, and then there are also levels and layers you know of Well, the one major thing that came to me during that first oracle ceremony back into cannabis after two years was she And this came
through another friend of mine who who had been quite experienced amba aliana. He who had received that one thing that is important for you to do with cannabis is to put it in either a small crystal bowl or a brass bowl, and three times use the sounding of the bowl with the intention that you are clearing the plant all the way down to the DNA of anything that is not
authentic to it, that does not serve it, and it's parasitic. And that includes all of the different additions of strains and people and growers and the dada da da, all the many things, so that you get down to the essence of the plant and you work with her that way every single time, and then you are less likely to get into trouble, get into addiction or like. So that is key for me, so now every single time, and that's what I'm teaching is part of the ritual. You have to
clear the cannabis. Let's face it, it's all tainted in some way or another. And if you don't want to fall into the taint problems, then you want to intentionally clear it and really connect with that spirit of the plant right up front, the authentic original. Interesting, as we come to the end of this discussion, I want to get your sense and I'm going to talk for a few minutes here on some of the advanced uses of cannabis.
And I have a an acquaintance who lives in in England and she's been using cannabis for probably a good decade or more, and it's not legal in England. So she grows her own plants, and she uses organic soil, and she uses organic water or special waters that have been treated and she gets and I haven't, but she gets. She creates, really grows really strong and really um powerful hannabis strains. And she's been working with the fairy realm.
Yes, and this is something that is not necessarily happening now, but this is kind of in the future as more and more countries become legal and this is a tool for working with the other realms. Absolutely, and I want to hear from you on this. The shifting allows you to see these other
realms. She's working with the fairy realm now she's only got to the beginning where they allow her to see them, but she's also watching them interact with the plant and the animal life, which is really this is going to be the next shift in our reality. Is these these these abilities to see these altered states and these other beings that live with us, the gnomes, the fairies, the elves and so farth and so on. And when she first wrote to me, I was like, oh, you're out of your gourd,
but go ahead. I could not agree with you more, Cliff. And as a matter of fact, my YouTube live that I'm doing Friday, April twenty eighth on the Marguerite Rigal Yo's a YouTube channel at eleven thirty am Eastern is going to be all about working with Lady Cannabis to access information about the fay, fairy and leprechn realms. Oh my god, wonderful that is come bed. You know, be present, ask questions on the chat function
um because let's consider Cannabis herself is a dava. Yes, yes, it is a plant spirit fairy b who is also holographically connected to source Creator as we all are, as all fairies are, and so forth. But if you want to learn about the fairy and fay realm imbibe a plant who is you know, earth created and astrally created to give you the pathway into this
knowledge. So I'm so curious to see what's going to come up in this oracle session because when I did, the first one was about accessing Lady Cannabis herself, so she had all these things to teach us about her, some of which we've shared here. The second was about Mary Magdalene, so Cannabis was giving me all information about Mary Magdalene. Now we're going to go in Leprechan's fairies and more. What is Lady Cannabis, queen plant spirit herself telling
us about this? Because yes, our ability to see, connect with, communicate with, and respect and work with harmoniously once again, these subtle earth allies is critical to the survival of the human species and the survival of the gaiasphere. Okay, so that we don't need the bomb and you know,
destroy ourselves through deforestation and pollution and whatever. Okay, that's a big way, you ask, how could cannabis be used to create these openings with these spirit allies so that we can rectify Mother Earth again, we can heal her, we can you know, grow her back right stock good point. I wonder if if by beginning to imbibe and use these plant medicines we kind of
reconnect with Gaya. Absolutely, consciousness is shifted, you know, and so we kind of we're like one body that's healed, and then each person who begins, you see, plant medicines is healed as well, and it becomes more harmonious. And they were kind of linked to Gaia. These plants are the goddesses of that process, you know. And Lady Cannabis. People asked her, well, what is her real name? And what came through in
that oracle was the name of God, which is unpronounceable. It's every syllable and it's every letter because she has a holographic representation of the divine, just like any of these other vines and medicines and fungi, and you know, so it was like, but she has a feminine valance, you see, and it's that feminine energy of that feminine valance, not only of the priestesses,
using it and ministering it. But the recognition of the plant itself that is part of our healing, Like, oh, there's a feminine valance, there's a masculine valance. We need to incorporate more of this feminine valance and work with it on the planet and play with it in in order to heal all of the negativity that's been going on here that is threatening the very human
species itself exactly. You know, it's funny because I know north of me here in Oregon, they have these centers that you can go to and have a DMT or a cannabis or hashish experience with the group, and I think that's wonderful. It's almost like the ancients would go to a temple for a healing and they would be given a sacred plant or a psychedelic that would release the stress and the problem in the hurt allow the healing to come through.
So it's the Elusinian mysteries. It's the basis of all the ancient mystery traditions was a sacred group plant experience. Yeah, wonderful. All right, Hey, as we depart, I just want to remind those of you who are listening that you're welcome to email me if you have any questions. My email is Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com and go to the mail orgasm dot com. You can see three or four chapters of cannabis and sexual ecstasy
for men. I have a number of articles on there, and also I've listed the top twenty strains for sexual awakening, sexual healing, and also creative endeavors. And when I say creative endeavors, that going to be music, writing, painting, just being creative person. So check those out and Marguerite, tell us a little bit about your website and what you're up to in
the next few months. Oh fantastic. I hope you'll add into their strains for the oracle work too if if you know, because that would be great. That's your website. I want to hear your websit alright, alright, So my website is seven Sisters Misty School dot com. The seven is written out and if people keep up with that. On May seventh, we are going to be announcing the enrollment into our Sacred Feminine Plant Medicine Academy, in
which we are going to have modules and ceremonies online for blue Lotus. Mama cacaw and Lady Cannabis. So this would be a wonderful way to either introduce yourself or deep in your relationships with these plants from a sacred feminine priests perspective as to what that would mean in your life and what that would mean for your work in the world. So, you know, just keep visiting that or get on our go there now, get on our Sacred Sunday E News
and you'll be informed of when that enrollment begins. And on the heels of that, you know, I'm going to be rolling out my Sacred Cannabis Priestess mentoring where I will be working one on one with people and possibly in small groups to have women use this as an adjunct or a springboard into their oracle
work. Okay, to receive that divine information for themselves sounds great. I want to remind you those of you who live in states that are not legal remember, and we've talked about this many times, a cannabis tourism, which is where you pick a weekend, you either drive or you fly to a state that has legal cannabis, find a very inexpensive motel, hotel, You
go to the local dispensary, you choose the appropriate strain. You set up a nice environment candles if you want that quiet lighting not to be no interruptions whatsoever. So this is something you do by yourself or worth a lover or your mate, as long as they know that this is something that is important for you and they can participate, great. If not, this is something
you need to do by yourself. You go, you experience the cannabis, and then as it becomes available in your state, then you you're more comfortable with it. Don't feel left out. Especially in the United States. You can go to nearby cities. You can drive. Yeah, just go over the border to wherever. And I don't want it to sound like, you know, suspicious negative, because look, those states that are not legal, they're just they're just about to become legal. They're almost there. Yeah,
it's going to happen, and maybe federally it will change as well. Yeah, and when and when the Feds lock it in, it's going to be, you know, wonderful. But there are still states that are illegal, and that's a problem. So is train the people who can be those mentors for all the million so who will be awakening to help them do it with integrity? In a way that truly serves them and our planet and does not
get them into trouble addictions and misuse exactly. And that's a great comment, which is that if you know more about it and you've you've had it, then you're less likely to abuse it, which is really it's easy to do. It's like anything else that anything you know, it's just something that can get over you. So hey, Marguerite, great to see you. Wonderful and it was a blessing to have you with me on the program. So
we'll have you again. All right, very good. I think as a portion of people in the United States that have a distinct disadvantage of not being able to have access to cannabis products, I think, I mean, the CBD products are available pretty much, I would think country wide, but anything with THHC or anything that's labeled psychoactive is a problem for states that just have not enacted the laws or allowed it to be available to their citizens. And
I think it's kind of a disservice. But everybody's not a different plane. Everyone's on a different everyone has different priorities, and obviously the states that do not have cannabis as an illegal substance are missing out. The amount of revenue generated by cannabis sales I believe so far is thirty billion US dollars. And this is we're not even you know, into the full year yet. But can you imagine if every state was legal, the revenues would be amazing.
And the money that each state gets is amazing. I mean, California's a billion dollars a year in revenue, Colorado's, if not a billion, more than a close to a billion. The revenue potential is great. And I did mention the research, the really important research on cannabinoids and the other compounds within cannabis that the ancestors knew about. I think that goes much further than
the noted ancestors. The Chinese used cannabis in all kinds of ways that we're just beginning to understand, and the ability to support and heal nervous system organs and other vital physiology people that have problems physically is amazing. So the sooner we can legalize it federally, the better. It's just going to make it a lot easier, not only for recreation but for medical You know, if you go and do a search for cannabis healing. You'll see a long list
of its benefits. It's an amazing plant medicine and it's truly a plant medicine on many, many levels. When we have Marguerite on the program, she's basically voicing a lot that I present in this book, cannabis and sexual ecstasy, because they're we're just beginning to touch on the levels of consciousness that are
achieved when you're altered. And that's why it's really important. If you have your phone with you, your iPhone or your Android, you load one of these free programs, these recording programs, and you can ask questions and what you sometimes come back with and this is you talking, but you're altered. You answer your own questions and you'd be surprised some of the things that you come up with. You're your own best therapist, you really are, and
your own best guide and council. So don't take it lately. I mean this has been used for centuries, if not longer, to access higher realms, your own higher realms, tap into your guidance and really go to work on problem solving. In some cases, it can be prophecy. It's wonderful, it really is it's a fantastic plant ally, so I hope you enjoyed that. Hey, As you know, we do a couple of tours every year, and we got a major one coming up in November. It is
it's our Maya of Tabasco and Chiapas, Mexico. It's November tenth to the seventeenth. We all meet in Vera Hoomosa, which is a few one hundred miles from Mexico City, and then we spend the night there. We head over to Leventa, which is one of the major Olmec cities, and we're going to visit an outdoor museum with huge megaliths. Then we're gonna go and see Leventa itself, what's left of it, because it's a very, very
old city and that's going to be a blast. And then we're taking a bus for a few hours drive to Chiapis and we're going to see the gold and jewel of the Maya Classic period, which is Polanque. Will be there for a couple of days and guess who's our host. It's doctor Edwin Barnhardt, who actually surveyed and did excavations at Polanque. He will be our guide for the whole tour, and it is a blast November tenth to the seventeenth
for the entire itinerary. And I just mentioned a few items. We're going to be seeing a lot of other We'll be visiting a lot of other locations as well. Those are the high lights. For more information, go to earth Ancients dot com, forward slash tours. T o U R asked, check it out, see what you see. What you think. Get your deposit in because we're about halfway full and we're taking a maximum of thirty people. We don't want to take more in there because we want to get to
be able to get around and drive and see these places. Get your deposit in. If you have any questions whatsoever, send me an email. Send it to earth Ancients for you the number four the letter you at gmail dot com. Go hey, Cleff, talk to me about this tour. What's going on here. Some people haven't been out of the country, you know, and they're a little concern about Mexico. Mexico is completely safe. It is a beautiful place to be. People are wonderful and when we go to
these ruins, they love they love foreigners because we help their economy. So there you go Earth Ancients dot Com Forward slash Tour. Come out and join us November tenth to the seventeenth. It's gonna be a blast. All right. That's it for this program. I want to thank my guest today, Marguerite Rigo Goloso, coming to us from Massachusetts. As always, the team of Ruth Thomas, Mark Foster and everyone ets this thing happened. Thank you
for your support. We really appreciate it. I appreciate it really and we will talk to you next time.