Destiny: Baptist de Pape, Manifestation Perfected

you're doing well today. We have a new book we're featuring this week called Manifestation Perfected Six Steps to Embody your Soul Purpose and the author is Baptiste Pope, who wrote a best selling book about ten years ago eight years ago called The Power of the Heart, which went viral on YouTube but also was a best selling book New York Times bestselling book that he made into a movie kind of in the same vein as The Secret, But the Power of the Heart series had at Kartoli,

Gary Zukoff and had a number of prominent Oh, Deepak Chopra, had a number of prominent people. I think Wayne Dyer actually was in there. He hadn't passed away yet. This is like twenty ten and very very prominent book, and this new book on manifestation kind of comes out of that. And what he's focusing on is something that I have learned as I've gotten older, which is when you are in complete harmony, when you are lined up with your higher self otherwise known as your soul. You can accomplish

it pretty much anything. And that's everything from more prosperity, your soulmate, slash, your a good relationship, just a much more happy and harmonious life. And that's what I think most of us are achieving. The problem, and he talks about this in this book today, is that when we are setting our goals, some of our goals are sorry to say it's they're childish. I want to win the lottery.

They're more filling, and they're more satisfying, and they lead to a quality of life that is just wonderful. And it's funny because I hate to say it, but you know, I've had some successes as a younger person, but I was always miserable because you know, even though I worked in some really cool companies here in northern California, I wasn't a corporate kind of a person. And I didn't realize that until after I got the job I really had had.

all great, and I was miserable. And it's funny because I I think I mentioned this years ago, but when I started doing this personal growth wellness ancient civilization material this theme, I mean, I had always had the heart's desire to talk about it, to do a wide band kind of an outreach to find the best minds, guys like Hancock and Shock, and you know, you listen to Earth ancients of destiny, we get the best of the best.

I mean that was a younger person. And then I got into corporate life after I got out of college, and for the most part, when I was working for other people, that was miserable. And when you work on a big, big company. I worked at PayPal for a few years. I was making amazing money, but it was miserable. I was so unhappy, and so I ended up quitting.

And I was working for a conference, Whole Life Expo, and I built relationships with all of these who's who types because I wanted to hear what they had to say, and I wanted people to hear what they say what they had to say. So I was, in many ways a facilitator at a young age, and this is what's transpired now as a podcast host, I'm a facilitator. I'm facilitating with my with my team Gail and others, guests who have something to say about living in this reality.

But more than that, it's offering and I say this a lot tools for transformation. And this is what I've been always preaching in a way when I was a program director for these conferences, was that people need to be impacted because you know, in the personal growth fields, there's a lot of fluff. A lot of people collect your money and they just have fluff to present. But I mean, I've been in this over thirty years and

I've seen it all. And that's why there's certain subjects I won't even go, you know there, because I just noticed it's fluff. But my point is that this is material that is impactful. I'm hoping it's impactful. And I get a lot of letters and information from you the listener about what they're what the programs are all about, and how you like them. But we're always trying to evolve the material and so ultimately working as a podcast

host is very fulfilling and it's very rewarding. It's very challenging at times because it's a lot of work, but I as a as an artist, it's a form of art. It's an artistic endeavor to pull it. Every every show together from a blank canvas. I take a blank canvas and we put an interview in there. We put a series of musical pieces, We put information uh that I hope is impactful. And when it's impactful, you you are being influenced, and I'm hoping that it's on a positive scale.

But today's program is all about using your intention. And what I like about the theme is it's not just random,

spontaneous intention. Well it can be, but when you're tied into your soul and you're working with your soul, and this is what the theme of the program is, sol intention, you are on fire, you're creating, and you're manifesting the highest level, and your soul has has your script that you worked out before you came into this body, and you worked it out and you are If you flow with your soul and you recognize that your soul is the way to go, and you're meditating and you're quieting

your brain and you're staying mentally clear, then the messages that are coming through are gonna help, and you're gonna You're gonna have intentions of things that you want or intend to do, be and aspire to realities that are going to be very positive. And so that's the program. So today we are featuring a new artist and the program is Manifestation Perfected. Six Steps to Embody your Sole Purpose, and my guest is Baptiste D.

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to their dearly departed. Sometimes it was a son, sometimes a friend who responded back to questioning about what it's like to be on the other side, what it's like to be without a body. And today we're speaking a new author who has written a book on manifesting, but not just manifesting and wishing to get what you want using specific techniques and most importantly the technique of intention.

My guest today is Baptiste the Pope. He is the author of Manifestation Perfected, Six Steps to Embody your Soul Purpose. And let me tell you a little bit about Baptiste. He is a lawyer, author and filmmaker. He wrote the book The Power of the Heart, which actually was also made into a documentary. And I've been kind of gazing at this book and he has taken the whole idea

of manifestation to a new level. And what that means is that I think a lot of us suffer through trying to figure out how to get what we want out of life. And I think he's distilled it, and he's distilled it by traveling the world. And this is actually featured on the book. He says that in the biography it says that Baptists travel the world speaking to, you know, a number of older souls and interviewing people

who are the lead thinkers of our time. So we're going to learn all about manifestation today today with his interview. So Baptiste, welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on the program. Thanks h thank you so much for having me. Clive, it's good to see you all right. So, traveling in the world. So this idea did it come at the end of this movie and this other book, The Power of the Heart?

you know, nineteen minutes. But with some people like Ekartoli, I spent three days with him, I had so much more material, and I thought, Okay, how can I share more? The only way to share more was to write the book. So the book in the film they were you know, released at the same time back in twenty fourteen.

at your book. These are three dynamic women. Absolutely, So They're not only very dynamic, but they were all three of them were really in a rock bottom situation and by aligning with her soul, they managed to turn it around. And Anita Morjohnny's story is I think the most compelling. She was in a hospital in Hong Kong and she was suffering from lymphoma. Lymphoma lymphoma is a cancer of the lymphatic system, and she had cancer at the size of lemons in her body and the doctor said, okay,

you only have a few hours to live. Let's bring in your family. And she goes into a coma and she has the classic near death experience. And long story is short. She has three insights. One inside is that time doesn't exist. She enters a timeless dimension, so we all believe in, let's say, reincarnation, but she says, reincarnation actually doesn't exist. It's all happening at the same time, so it's all parallel lives. The second inside that she has is we are in essence, unconditional love.

and that's why she got the cancer. That's the message that she receives and now that she knows who she truly is, unconditional love, infinite intelligence, she has to go back to the world and share this message with the world. But you know, she doesn't want to go back, obviously because she was so ill, so she doesn't want to go back into that body. But because she is in a timeless dimension, she can go into time in our world and see that if she goes back into the body,

the cancer will be gone within forty eight hours. And because she has that insight, she decides to go back. Wow, and her book came out. Now, so long story short is that Bwayne Dyer, the late Wayne Dyer, hears about this story and he lets his doctors in Maui, Wayne was living in Maui at the time, approach the doctors from the hospital in Hong Kong because he wants to see the medical records, like that, did this really happened?

Because she was cured within forty eight hours from cancer when she came back into the body with the new awareness and and way. He said, I mean, this is the essence of manifest this story because she connects with a new dimension, a new awareness and new consciousness and within forty eight hours, all the cancer is gone, so the doctors in the hospital are confronted with a medical miracle. So he gets to see the medical files and indeed,

this really happened. So he approaches her and he helps her to get a book deal with hay House and the title of the book is Dying to be Met. So that's a great title, Dying to him Me. And Wayne becomes her biggest promoter. So they start touring the US together, and they start touring the whole world together. Actually, so her book Dying to Be Me becomes a New York Times bestseller, and it becomes a global best seller all over the world. And her point is that she said,

I had to do nothing for it. The first big manifestation is, of course, the healing, and the healing happened because I started to align with my essence, my originals, let's say, soul energy. And the second thing is she said, you know the moment I started healing, Whene Dyer approaches me, that's another manifestation. And then the next manifestation is I get the publishing deal with Hayous. And then the next

manifestation is it becomes a New York Times bestseller. And her point is that all the manifestations come because she was authentically being herself. And she says the two biggest messages that she has for us is we have to treasure our own magnificence. And the second message is if you align with the energy of your soul, that everything that truly belongs to you comes to you effortlessly. And I think that's such a powerful way to look look

at a manifestation. You know, we have to become authentically we are at the soul level. We have to align with the energy of our soul, and then everything that truly belongs to us comes to us effortlessly.

study near death experiences, I mean there's so many. Look at the work of Raymond Moody, Elizabeth Koble Ross, look at the story of even Alexander, but also Anita Morghini. They describe that it's the dimension of love. Anita Mrghanni calls it unconditional love, infinite intelligence. There is no time, so time does not exist. So it's an experience maybe of a very high, very loving vibration, but it's our essence. Yeah, and how can we I think, you know, we have

to experience it. But every time we have the feeling of grade, of coming home energetically, of feeling love, of combassion, reverence for life, those feelings, I think we get close to the essence of the soul. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

there's different kinds of intention. There's the casual intentions, but the soul level intentions are the ones who are the greatest and the most beautiful manifestations, the ones that you really need. Yes, absolutely talk a little bit about that.

purpose meaning behind everything we do. We feel that something bigger is showing us the way and carrying us, we start to experience synchronicities. And synchronicity is of course a word a coined by Colume, and synchronicities are those moments when you immediately know that this is not a coincidence, but there's power, there's purpose, there's meaning behind what you're doing, and you feel much lighter, You feel like you are much more than your body. And we all recognize those moments.

But that means that we are actually serving the energy of our soul. And I think it's really important to understand the relationship between let's say, the personality and the soul. So I always use this metaphor when you are on a boat on the river, and when you are the personality, the personality can only see the next band on the river, but when you are the soul, you can see everything from the bird's eye view, and the soul can see the whole journey from source to sea, so it sees

everything from a much higher perspective. But our problem is we don't trust the soul. And yeah, we can only learn to trust it by experiment back, by experimenting with this energy of the soul. And you know, when we have to make decisions. We can look at all the pros and all the cons and take into consideration all the rational stuff, but it's also important to take into consideration how does this feel? What is the energy telling me? And that's more the language of the soul.

this the soul is kind of going. I think it's more in alignment for you to have prosperity, but you work for it, you know, not like you're looking to get the winning you know whatever they call those things the ten million dollar lottery card, which is so mundane and so it's not really a spiritual goal, you know what I mean, what you're presenting is a way to tune into the soul and have it come through you in a meditative process, and then you develop an intention that has more purpose.

the same director. So I had all these conversations with him about manifesting an intention, and in The Secret it's all about the law of attraction. But they don't ask the question where is the intention to manifest something coming from? Is it coming from your higher self or your personality? And I think that is a very important question, where

is the intention coming from? Because the intentions that are coming from your personality or let's say your ego are not coming are not necessarily coming from your higher self. And I mean another important question that I could ask you, Cliff you have manifested so much in your life, and you had many intentions, but sometimes, you know, some intentions didn't work out for you and others became successful. Right, So the question is why did certain things work out

for you? And why did certain things not work out for you? Did you ever think about that? Did you ever thought about that?

metaphysics for most of my adult life. And you know, there are different authors and different speakers so called gurus. They're not defined as gurus, but people recognize them as gurus who had various techniques for manifesting what you wanted. And I'd say half of them didn't work because there are other underlining motivations and desires that got involved, you know, like having all the money, having the perfect relationship, having

the new car. I mean, they're all monetary, you know, because I'm in the West, and we're all about getting money, and you know, we're not so much about Hey, I want to feel great and I want to have an elegant day, and I want to, you know, recognize this as a beautiful place. You know, that kind of intention and manifestation is not good enough for most of the Western culture because we're so locked into having possessions.

mean from my own experience. I wanted to become a lawyer, and I wanted wanted to become a partner with a big international law firm, and I worked there. But when I was when I was there, I was like, something is off. I had the brains to do it, but energetically I felt disconnected from from from from myliveness in a way, and and I was like, what is this? I worked for this to get here, and I don't want to be here. And I started to explore, Okay,

how can I find my purpose in life? Right? Because that that's what it's it's it's it's about finding your purpose in life? Why are you here? As long as you have life, you have intentions? And I started to google how can you find your purpose in life? And I stumbled upon a video where Oprah Winfrey was in conversation with Eckart Tolly. And the video started with Oprah saying, I think there's nothing more important than finding your purpose

in life. Why are you here? Right? That question? And Eckart said yes, but he said you cannot get there through thinking. And he said, if you want to find the answer to this question, you can ask what do I want? What do I want? So that that would come from the personality, what does the personality want? But the more powerful question would be what does life want from me? So life is a source or the soul, But ask the question what does life want from me?

And then you get close to what your soul wants. And so again, my personality wanted to become a partner with the big law firm and be a hotshot lawyer make a lot of money. But my soul wanted something totally different. And but I started to notice when I started listening to my soul, and when I started to meditate on the question what does life want from me? I started to feel aliveness. I started to come alive, and I think I was like, wow, this is really

to me. Alignment with the soul is to me, the highest form of abundance, because it is your liveness, it is your essence, it's to who you really are. So you can have all the money in the world. But if you're disconnected from your liveness, from your source, from your soul, you are not experiencing abundance or wealth. Right, So I thought, okay, And so when I started meditating on the question, it took me a while, but the answer that came, and when it came, it came like

a bang. It felt like coming home, It felt like race. The answer was you have to make a film about the heart. So when the answer came, it was like very clear, It felt like falling in love. It was so graceful, and it's felt like coming home. And I had this Hallelujah feeling, Okay, this is it. But of course, after a while, my mind started to begin in a mindset, Okay, you're a lawyer, so you don't know anything about the heart. You don't know anything about film production. I had no

background in film production. But I also remembered what Martin Luther King had said. He said, you don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step. And I think you know, listening to the soul. Following the soul is about following your liveness, what makes you come alive. And when you start to follow that, the sinker iniciencies happen. Something greater is supporting you, something greater is showing you the way. You will start to feel that there's power,

there's purpose, there's meaning beyond everything you do. And that's when you feel the fullness of life. And I think the highest form of abundance is the fullness of life. And you can only experience the fullness of life when your personality starts to serve the energy of the soul, and you can find the energy the intensities of the soul. I think only through opening your heart, because when we are born, we don't get the manual. When you were born,

you didn't get the manual. This is what your soul wants to do, and rational linear logical education cannot help you with that. Okay, So when we when we go through the education system, we get zero answers about how what our soul wants. We can only connect with what our soul wants with our elements in a way, when we open our hearts and we start to listen to what makes us come alive. I mean, for a bird, it's very clear. The element of a bird is to fly, the element of a fish is to swim. But what

is our elements? And everyone has has their own specific soul imprint, own own specific blueprint, and we can only get there when we get out of our minds, when we open our heart and we start to feel the liveness that we are, when we start to experience that. Yeah, exactly.

a crisis, you see, I need more, Johnny. You know, she was dying, and I mean that's the I mean, you can get beyond dying, right, I mean if you die, And that's that's like the ultim ultimate bottom situation in a way.

our magnificence. That's the energy of the soul, and it's our job to tap into the energy of the soul and then everything that really belongs to us comes to us effortlessly. And that's also my experience. I mean, think about it. You know, from my personality, the highest thing that I could achieve with my life was become a lawyer with the big international law firm where I was working. That I mean that that would have been my life.

But what happened is I started to listen to my soul through a crisis situation because I felt cut off from my life. Is I think the biggest melody of her time is a lot of soul, and I started to follow the energy. And what happened I did the power of the heart, and I didn't know what was going to happen. And nobody believed that this was going to be a success. My family certainly didn't believe that.

And the book came out in eighty countries. Simon and Schuster, the biggest publisher in the United States, bought the world rights and the book was published in eighty countries in forty five languages. It became an international bestseller. I could not have imagined that right. I had no interest in writing books or producing films zero and I had no background in it. But I just had the courage to listen to that energy of the soul. And it was because I had nothing to lose. I said, I followed

my mind, I followed my personality my whole life. I went to law school, I did everything by the book and it didn't make me happy. And I'm just gonna give this a shot, right, and then the miracles started to happen. I had the privilege of interviewing the late doctor Maya Angelo in her home in Winston Salem, California. I mean, she is an icon, and she was an icon. She passed in twenty thirteen. All those people, Eckartoli, Paulo Qualia, the author of The Alchemist, they all opened their doors

for me, and I was nobody. So I really think that we don't have a choice. But what I've learned from interviewing all these people is they don't change unless they're a crisis. When there's a crisis, they are forced into another awareness because the linear, rational logical thinking cannot help them anymore. Good example is Ekarta. He was doing his PhD at Cambridge, and he was suicidal and he said, I cannot live with myself anymore. At that moment, he

realized that there were two and I and myself. And if you have that realization that there are too, then you start to connect with the question of course, who am I really? Am I the personality, the body, the ego, or am I the higher self, the soul? And when you start to align with that energy, and you really do the work of align with that energy, life starts to flow for you. I'm not saying that there are no more challenges, but I am saying that those challenges

will bring you closer to your soul. It's like diamonds become diamonds under pressure. So sometimes the things that we don't want to experience are actually tools that help us. So And what I also want to say is the soul is very ambitious. I mean, that's my experience. I'm not saying we all have to become an Oprah Winfrey

or a JK. Rowling or Anita Mr Johnny, But I am saying if you start to honor the whisper of your soul, you start to feel the fullness of life, You start to feel the deeper eye and you will start to feel such an abundance and such a satisfaction already, and then you just start to follow the live is that you start to trust your life. I think one of the most important things that we have to develop

is courage. Encourage is derived from the word kur in French, care means hard, and the courage is also derived from the Latin word core and core also means hard. So in order to follow our heart, we need to develop hard in a way, right, and that's courage.

I think we have to be open for the fact that things. I was a lawyer in the city of Amsterdam with a big international law firm. I had zero background in spirituality.

feels so good. I'm willing to die for this. And maybe this sounds a little bit, you know, maybe you know, people think, oh, he wants to die for this, but that's how I felt. I was like, this makes me so happy, I want to do this. I also noticed this with Paulo Coelias. I think you maybe have heard

about the book The Alchemist or read the book. Yeah, So The Alchemist is about the boy Santiago, who was a shepherd boy and he goes into the world and he wants to make his fortune, but he discovers something much deeper than that, uh a fortune. He discovers the soul and the heart, and and and and and and so on. But The book is a great book. I think it's over one hundred million copies. But Paulo Cowell, when he was a kid, he already knew that he

wanted to write. And his father, was a successful businessman, said no, Paolo, you're not going to become an author in Brazil. He's from Brazil. You cannot make a living as an author. It's impossible. And they litered everything to make him stop writing. And and then he wrote a book about it. There there are there are films made about his story. And he had to find his family in order to become an author. And but he knew that this was his element, and I think it's true.

It be important that you start to feel what brings me into a state or flow. When do I feel, you know, the grace of life? When do I feel the fullness of life? Because that's very close to why you're here. That's what your element is. And a lot of people need validation, they need like proof, what what's going to happen if I follow this a life? Is what's going to happen when I feel this fullness of life? When I follow that? A lot of people become like, oh,

how can I trust this? But you know, I think if you are in a crisis and you see this with Oprah and JK. Rowling, and especially with Ante Mojani, you have no more choice than to trust it. And for me, it was just I don't want that life anymore,

and I'm just gonna give this a shot. And I think the best thing you can do is start experimenting, and if it's really the soul, then you will be guided, you will be supported, the right people will come, you will have the synchronicities, you will feel supported, you will feel that there's a power and purpose and meaning behind what you're doing.

your life. Let's talk about the chapters. You break it into six sections, and I'm going to briefly go through so each one and you can maybe give us a highlight of why you have created these sections. The first one is recognized that you are a soul and not just a body. Now we've already talked about that obviously, and absolutely you provide information and insights on how to

recognize your soul. And it's still as I'm speaking to you right now, understanding the soul and not the body is I think the biggest problem that most people have when you say.

Of course, we have to experience it. I mean, this is everything that I'm talking about is not something you can grasp conceptually. You have to have the experience of felt presence of the soul. I think there's no other way, yes, because otherwise this doesn't make any sense. You you you have to look for ways to experience it. And on the other hand, we all know the experience of flow

when when you look at the tennis match. I love to watch tennis when two people are completely in sync and and and that's why we love to watch it, because something is happening on the court when we watch it. That's why we love to watch sports. There's something because there's so much focus and intensity right there. And sometimes when players are in flow, it's magical to watch them.

I mean, everybody love to watch Michael Jordan back when he was playing for the Bulls in the nineties because he was in such a flow, in such a state of focus. And I think I think that's very I mean obviously playing basketball was his element, right, Yeah, So there's something that we recognize on a deeper level. That that's who we truly are. Yeah. So I think we have to look for those moments when we are experiencing flow, when we feel that we are more than our body.

And some people have it when they play the piano. Other people have it when they dance. Other people have it when they are writing. Other people have it when they're walking in nature with their dogs. You have to look for, Okay, when do I feel the connection with my liveness? Exactly? Yeah? I know. Yeah.

Oprah Winfrey, and and I need to mark Johnny. They wear a situation where they really felt like, Okay, you know, I have to approach this in a different way. I mean, Oprah was living in Mississippi, uh, you know, and and she was as poor as you can be without having a roof over your head. In her own words, she was big fed and ugly and her parents only came together one time, and that's when you know. She was made. And her mother was a maid, her grandmother was a maid,

and her grandmother raised her. And she said, Oprah Gail because her specond name was Gaile Oprah Gail, I hope you find yourself some nice white folks to work for. So her expectation was to become a maid as well, for white folks. And she didn't have a lot to live for. But she was also a member of the Baptist Church in Mississippi, and she was very irreligious. She believed in God, and she started praying to God and said, God, I don't have a lot to live for, Please you me,

use me, use me. And because because of that prayer, she started to align with something larger. I mean, there's no other explanation. How how are you going to explain that a girl who was born in those circumstances become one one of becomes one of the most influential figures of our time. Yeah, it's because she connected with the higher source, higher intelligence. Yeah, and she gave up her life to that higher intelligence. But nobody's talking about it.

talking about aligning with a higher power. But I mean Gary and Eckart are both intellectuals, and they gave her the words to explain to herself what had happened to her, right, they gave her the vocabulary. And so because I think she never understood her own success until she started to read The Seat of the Soul, I mean, yeah, yeah, excellent. I'm going to quickly go over the next one.

evolution as we're growing, you know what I mean? So, how do we how do we identify intentions that are coming from the highest good? And you kind of said it, you said it, where we feel in alignment, when we feel blessed and energized by the information that's coming through.

And we all have had these experiences, maybe just a few times in our lives, but we recognize it when they come, right. And this energy is not just a random energy. It's not neutral in a way. It is an energy trying to communicate with you and trying to say, Okay, this is what you're supposed to do.

mean we talked to. I mean, Oprah started very young because she was born in the worst situation compared to the other two. Right, Yeah, So Jackie Rowling is also interesting. So she was She's British and she's very intelligent, and she just like just like, excuse me, Paulo Qualio. She knew as a child that she wanted to become an author, but of course her parents told her to it, like, you can't make a living writing books, right, So she

goes to university blah blah blah. She marries a Portuguese journalist. She moves to Portugal, and this marriage doesn't work out and she goes She wants to go back to London, but she can't afford to live there. In London, it's a very expensive city, so she decides to go to Edinburgh, Scotland. It's a much cheaper city, and her sister happens to live there, so she thought, okay, let's go there. But she also has a child, so there's this divorce. She's

a mom with a child. She's single, she can't find a job, and she comes really depressed and she feels like her life is a total failure. And she did a hard commencement speech about this, and she talked about the power of hitting rock Bottom because she said, hitting rock Bottom was very meaningful and powerful to me because it stripped away the inessential. Everything that was not real was stripped away from me. My husband was gone, I

couldn't find a job. I was depressed. And when she was experienced all of this, she said, you know, my life is such a failure. I might as well do what I always wanted to do, write books. And then in that time, she was sitting on a train, I think from Manchester to London, and all of a sudden she had download and it came to her bomb and it was very powerful. It was like wizard boy that doesn't know is a wizard goes to wizarding school and she felt so much alife is so much grace.

also her healing out of this dark world. But I mean, she was in a very dark place at the time, and and then but she had to go to this rock bottom situation in order to to to just say, Okay, I'm gonna trust this energy and I'm just gonna go to write because i have nothing else to do and I'm depressed. Right, So you can compare her situation with Oprah, where Oprah really said, you know, use me, I don't

have a lot to live for anymore. So there seems to be that you you first have to hit this really rock bottom situation before you really, you know, surrender yourself to your soul in a way.

us to go there because we have no choice. So that's how I see it. And for me it was the same. I was just, you know, with this big international law firm. But I was like, I was not depressed, but I was like, Anna, I don't want to do this for the rest of my life, you know, I'd rather but I didn't know what to do. So I started to ask question, Kay, what you know, how can you find your purpose in life? And I think purpose

is so important. If we don't have a bigger purpose, we don't feel the connection with our lives and with the fullness of life.

don't care anymore what other people say or think. It's just yourliveness in you is so big and so great and so expensive. I was just happy with listening to my soul. I felt so happy all the time. I was like, Okay, this is it, let's go.

a big premiere here in the city of Antwerp. We had a big venue with thousands of people, and I obviously I didn't invite my family because they didn't support what I was doing. Wow. So the whole venue was sold out with thousands of people. And after the screening of the film, I did the Q and A. I they asked me on station. We did the Q and A and the spotlights were on the public and I every from everyone was giving the film standing of ass was like, oh, my god, when they really love it.

In the middle and the center of the audience, there were a few people who were not standing up, and I looked a little bit better and I saw it was my family. Oh, in the middle there was my father. And after the so they were like, they were like, looking at all those people, why are they applauding, Why are they, you know, giving this a standing ovation. They were like they didn't get it. So afterwards, I was signing books and my father was standing in the line

and I said, hey, you're here. I didn't invite you, but you know, I'm glad that you came and I asked him, did you learn something? And he said, I thought that what he said to me, Yeah, I learned something. He said, I thought that my son was crazy talking about me, of course, but now I know that that there that there are a lot of crazy people in the world. Ah.

don't know how it's set up. We talked about the six sections and you're gonna need to get the book for more details, but I mean it feels right to me. It feels really really good. There were not enough examples of people that were manifesting. He talked about himself, Baptiste and talked about himself, and of course super super positive manifestors Oprah Winfrey, JK. Rowlings, and of course Anita More Johnny I got to get that book. By the way, Dying to Be Me sounds amazing me even get her

on the show. But those are super manifestors. Those are those are people that are so locked in that you know, they're living there their self, They're living their dream, they're living their higher self, their their soul. Super super manifestors. And I'm just curious how much time is needed. I mean, how do you know that you are living your soul's intent. That's a tough one. I mean, he talked some of the about that. But if you can get into that state of mind while and maintain it, And I think

those three women are excellent examples of that. But I wonder who else would be a good example? You know, is Elon Musk an example of a person living his soul purpose?

and there's a number of world class museums there. There's a Roman Museum, there's a number of places to see evidence of the previous civilizations that have lived there, and the food, the drink of the environment.

I think my guest today Baptiste Pope, his new book Manifestation perfected as always a team of Gil Tour, Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. You guys are rock all right, take care, be well, and we will talk to you next time.