We've got a good one for you today. This is the third installment of our Contact in the Desert series, coming to you from Palm Desert, California, with a scientist that had his own ET experience ET contact. My guest today is known as an Indigo child, a human being that has extraordinary gifts of telepathy, psychic awareness, and also pass life recall. We'll talk about that on today's program. His lifetimes in ancient Egypt, in Atlantis, and
in Moo. These are periods when the world was in a different epic and human beings were much more sensitive to Gaya, the Earth, their surroundings, and had connection with star beings. This is a full interview with my guests talking on the previous civilizations of ancient Earth. All this more today on Earth Ancients for Saturday, June seventeenth, twenty twenty three. This is Earth Ancients. I'm your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, Hey, welcome to Earth
Ancients. This is Cliff. Yes, I am your host of this program. You know I have been evaluating the interviews I did at Contact in the Desert, and I gotta tell you I missed the whole routine. As a former program director for some of the largest consciousness expos in San Francisco. There's
a thrill in seeing an audience react to a speaker. There's a fun aspect of discovering a new presenter, a new author who also speaks well about their subject and gets there the theme of the book or the content across to an audience in a very positive way. And I ran across a couple of people in that domain of unknown individual who just blew the audience away. And we're gonna have one of these individuals on the program today. His name is Adam
Apollo. He's a scientist. He hails from northern North Carolina, and what makes him a fascinating individual is that he talks a great deal about his alien encounters and he's actually met with a few races. Now, I also consider
Adam after meeting him, what they call an indigo child. He's in his mid thirties, and indigo children is a term that came up in the nineteen nineties for children that were highly psychic, deeply intuitive and empathic, can remember their past lives, had great intuition and just seemed very very intuitive and connected to the earth or gaia. And they also had, you know, great recall had knowledge of other planetary systems in this case with Adam, and this
is also written down. If you do a search for Indigo Children, many of them remember previous lifetimes, and Adam is one of these individuals who goes back and actually has quite clear memories of living prior to the Great Deluge, many many lifetimes in Atlantis, many many lifetimes in Moo and in other parts
of the Earth where he had very positive experiences. Now, one of the things that we don't know about, and Edgar Casey talks about, is that when we incarnate in our body, a soul delivers us into a physical form and a decision is made prior to incarnating that you are going to bring these previous gifts and from other incarnations into this lifetime. As odd as that sounds,
it's actually quite true. Some of us have quite unique gifts. The ability to play music, the ability to paint, the ability to speak in public. All of our gifts, many times have come from other lifetimes, and we select which ones we want to use, so forth and so on. Indigo Children, like Adam my guests today, is able to work with these lifetimes, bring forward the data and actually go back and This is what's really unique. I can't. I mean those of us, as certain generations
can have certain abilities, were gifted with certain abilities from previous lifetimes. In the Indigo children or the new the next generation Gen X and so forth, they can actually remember and through a meditative process, go back to their previous lives. The reason I'm having Adam On today is that he has quite a bit of information regarding ancient Egypt, the pyramids, the Sphinx, and a lot of information on megalithic buildings that I thought was fascinating and takes up a
good portion of our interview. Now, how can we validate this data? Well, to a degree we can't. But as our technology in present day begins to refine itself and we have these satellites that are able to penetrate stone and show us what's in the pyramid, this is where the previous lifetimes can
be validated. That's you know what I'm always taught talking about some MIT student coming up with a scanning handheld scanning device to be able to detect when stone was cut, what kind of cutting tool was used, and in the case of Maya and predynastic Egyptians. It's my belief and a lot of other peoples that they were able to imbue or push data into the stones of a temple, so as you entered, you received this wave and this is how the data got across. A lot of this that I'm talking about is like,
you know, you're you're thinking, what is he talking about? This sounds so strange. Well, this is remembering this previous epic, and I believe the predynastics go to this, this previous epic that we've had other scientists talk about on this program. Prior to the Great Deluge, the great asteroid hit
that terminated the previous civilization, they were able to imbuse data. And my mentor, my Mayan mentor, told me about this when I was first visiting him in Mexico, and I was like, you got to be kidding me. But then I would read later that groups of elders Mayan elders would travel throughout different parts of Yucatan in Mexico and most notably Guatemala and reactivate these pyramids, temples and cities so that they were turned back on. They were able
to somehow switch on the energy of the buildings. So it's connected to Little Tulleric Field. So they're actually activated. I could never figure this out until very very recently in the last few years, and it's very hard to write about, so you do the best you can. But this is one of these things that we'll eventually get a sense of through the technology that's developed.
So Adam is quite unique because he talks about his encounter in the desert with an alien species and he meets with this what seems to be a woman, and she has definitely she has a unique facial bone structure that he goes into a great deal of detail about and he sees her about ten feet away, and then he walks up to her, so he's about five feet or less from her, and all of a sudden, he's walking into her uric field and they kind of connect. Then there's this big communication through the minds.
There's telepathic thought, telepathic acknowledgement, and she hangs with him a little bit, and it's quite unique. What he describes. What makes ad I'm amazing is that he talks about starships. He talks about the group of souls, how they are now incarnating on Earth. And this is something that we've had discussions on before, which is we all have a choice to return to Earth, or we can incarnate on other planets. What seems to be happening according
to Adam is that other planet citizens are choosing to come to Earth. Now, what I get from this is that this is another form of contact. When these off world types, these other species of beings come and interact with us in this form. This is this connection is kind of like helping us grow, helping us evolve. What makes Adam unique is that I don't think they the aliens, can actually deal with everybody because certain people are on certain
paths, but we're all on different levels of evolution. Some of us are working on our dark side, some of us are captured and forced to live the darker side of ourselves. And when you're working with a very evolved species of an alien. I've mentioned this before, they're vibrating at a very very high rate, and we're not necessarily vibrating at the same rate, and so
that can be a problem. So but you know, it's funny because Adam has a whole series on Gaya called Interview with Ed Extraterrestrial Dimensions, and he talks about the telepathic can indication he's had and continues to have with different beings, and so if you're interested in communicating with beings that are not necessarily in front of you through telepathy, he offers some courses through gaias, So just
look up Adam Apollo and you can get this data. So what makes him very unique, and I've seen other Indigo children, is that they are incarnated with all their gifts fully developed, and that means that he can slip into a telepathic mode. He's extremely bright, he works with unified physics, astronomy, He's very fascinated, and this is why I had him in this interview. He was fascinated and continues to be fascinated with ancient Earth, and I
wanted to talk about that and which was fun in this interview. But you know what I'm getting, and I kind of hint at this, is that the previous epic of humankind had a number of natural gifts that we don't possess or we've squelched. And one of these gifts is the ability to shut the brain off through meditation, doing subtle body work like yoga, tai chi, body movements that are that connect the mind, body, and the spirit.
And also in some cases they use a little bit of hallucinogen, not necessarily the powerful ayahuasca, but perhaps a little cannabis in some cases, just a little tobacco to trigger various states of mind. And as you'll hear in this interview, he talks a great deal about the future of humankind and we got to get our act together. So this is the closest that we can get right now, is when you're working with an indigo person, they are all
I mean, they are really a hybrid. They may be born on the Earth, they might be looked like you and me, but they have abilities that are complementary to space people or star people. And this is why it seems like, and I have not read a study on this yet, that people who have this balance or have these components are likely to have contacts. So and I've been to enough of these muffon meetings mutual UFO organization meetings to
meet with indigo people. In fact, years ago, years ago I had there were a number of lectures and workshops given by Indigo facilitators when I was a program director here in San Francisco at the Whole Life Expo, which was a great deal of fun. So the program today is our pathway to the Stars, and my guest is Adam Apollo. Hey, this is Cliff Dunning and Ed Barnhardt inviting you to join us November tenth through the seventeenth as we
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week of fun, adventure and exploration. So some of the fascinating aspects of contacting the dead Desert is different types of content, different types of personalities, and a very eclectic speaker lineup. My guest today is Adam Apollo, and I've i saw Adam a couple of months ago when I was working with a producer. And not only is he an experiencer, he's also somewhat of a
scientist. Eclectic science, eclectic topics as well as some of the ancient material, the ancient sites, the ancient people that we bring up on the program. So Adam, welcome to Earth Ancients. Great Dad, you on the program. Thanks so much, Cleff. It's really an honored to be here. All Right, I gotta start from the beginning. Let's present our listeners with your experience, multiple experiences. You just enlightened me by telling me that
you had more than one. Is this something that you've detected as a child or talk about it? Yeah, Well, when I was really little, I had an experience at this ranch that my mom worked at and had horses, and we had a little cabin on this ranch. This is up in Red River, New Mexico, nine thousand feet elevation. Oh more stars than you could possibly count in the sky. And I went out at night and
I was walking around. I was or maybe a second or third grade, seven or eight years old, and I was walking around this little lake in the evening, which is just beautiful under the stars, and I see this thing come over the mountain and this light gets brighter and brighter and brighter until it's just huge and blinding light. And I'm just stunned and then it shoots off, and I had my whole body lit up with chills and energy, and I had no idea what that was at that time. I just just
freaked out about it and told my mom. And days later I asked my mom. I was like, did I did I come in and say this thing? Because it was so surreal, I thought maybe I just dreamed it, and she said, no, no, you saw something. I don't know what it was. And then when I was a teenager, my dad and step brother were driving car on the back seat and we're in Missouri on this dirt road and my stepbrother says, stop the car. Stop the car. My dad stops the car. It's like get out, get out.
Look. Look. We get out of the car and there's this triangular object flowing across the sky, weaving and spinning and rotating, and then it shoots off over the horizon. So you're showing us moving it moving like yeah, over ends. Yeah, three lights rotating in this triangular shape. And so I'd had those experiences and I was very fascinated by that. When I was in college, I ended up having a guy run into me synchronistically outside the grocery store and he says. He says, I just got back from DC
Apollo and like I was at this press Club conference. I got a videotape of it, and it was the National Press Club conference that Stephen Greer did when he was formally announcing the disclosure project, and I got, you know, I had the mental curiosity. I got to meet Stephen Greer because I was in Asheville, North Carolina, and he lived there. He came to speak at UNCA. I met a lot of UFO researchers. I'd done essentially
the Drake equation calculations myself. I was deep, deep in physics by this time, five years into unified physics studies at this time, and I thought, there's absolutely no way we're alone. So how the heck are we? You know, what is actually going on? But I never had more of an experience than seeing spacecraft and seeing things in the sky until two thousand and
five. And Okay, I'm just going to ask you if you had any missing time or fog about seeing a ship or interactions, which is the whole alien abduction phenomen soical head sure, I mean, besides the potential that that bright light when I was really little led to something like that exactly, I couldn't say for sure, but that moment in two thousand and five, I'm in the middle of the North Nevada Desert and I end up meeting of physical
extraterrestrial being from another planet. Oh my god. That absolutely changed my life drastically. And it wasn't just that experience. But I tell this whole story because as a scientist, I love to build context and I'm a professional. I'm a CEO of a tech company. You know, my world is about credibility, validity, trust. These are you're a physicist, this is how I build my life. Yeah, And so I tell this whole story on
two GAIA episodes in case your audience is interested. They're the Interviews with Ed series with Ruben Langdon, and it's two long episodes of essentially, you know, several hours of content of me telling the whole story of meeting this being, what happened and how it all went down. But essentially, I met this physical extraterrestrial being. She had the most powerful telepathic abilities of anything I'd ever experienced. And then I was brought astrally into this astral council chamber where
I met seventy three different species from different worlds across the galaxy. And this was I'd say the biggest foundational shift in my understanding of my life, myself, reality that I'd ever had by far, and I'd had some pretty profound speriences. I woke up when I was fifteen, I had a lot of miracles happened, and magic happened realizing I'm an energy body connected to the universe. But this really changed the game because it suddenly put everything in context for
me. The fact that I was not from this planet originally came into my awareness, and that is such a fascinating thing because suddenly they weren't aliens anymore. This was my star family that I was reconnecting with. Well, let me stop you right now. Are you saying that you have a sense that your Earth parents are part of you and that you come from another planetary system or did you incarnate through your mother through in vitro insemination of some kind.
It's more complicated than that. Because when I was a teenager, I going into college. I had an experience where I was sitting in a dorm room and I was dating this girl in college, and I'm sitting in the dorm room with her roommate, and I'm sitting and talking to these two guys hanging out drinking coffee. She made the best coffee. She knew everybody's coffee.
And she's sitting on her bed talking to these two ladies and were I'm in a conversation and I look over at her, and it was like I had this full visceral flashback where I'm in a medieval ballroom and I can feel the weight of the leather straps of my ornamental armor, the sword hanging at my side, you know, the cloak on me. I could smell the burning of the oil lamps. I could feel the mustiness and kind of little moldiness
of like the tapestries, and just the feel of the space. And I'm talking with these two lords about protecting our trade of grain and resources down this one valley where we keep getting these brigands that are like ambushing, and we're trying to figure out where to put scouts on the mountain side so we can keep these ambushes from happening. And I'm looking at her and I'm realizing, oh my god, this woman is the love of my life. Like I
want to have children with her. I have all these emotions coming up, and then all of a sudden, you know, she looks at me and she smiles and her hairs up and it's just like this powerful, ecstatic moment of experience and the two I'm back in the dorm room and I literally could not remember what I was saying to my two friends, and they're looking at
me, going, Adam, are you okay dude? And I was like, I think I need to get a glass of water, and so I get up, go out into the hall, go to the water fountain, drink some water. I come back in and Rachel she is in the bathroom and she's washing her face off in the sink and she looks up at me and she's got this look in her eyes like what the as that? And I'm like and she's like, did you And I was like, uh huh, you did too, and she's like, yeah, well blink out,
like we both went there full on wow. And that was the first time that happened. I end up going to a Halloween party shortly after this, a guy gets super drunk. I don't even know him, and he starts crying and apologizing to me for the crimes he committed against me, and her in another life and calling us by the names that we both remember, but we didn't tell anybody because I'm dating her roommate in college. What do you
do with that? Right? And so that started a journey for me where I began to have different lifetimes of experience and memories of different times of being alive as a samurai in Japan, in the Middle Ages, at different times as amayan who was going to be forced to sacrifice someone and couldn't do it and had to flee, as you know, an Egyptian and doing magic.
And I had worked my way back to the time of Atlantis and essentially had memories with friends and a few brothers that I could undeniably say, we're on this planet, but in an advanced civilization with very particular qualities where the world was very interconnected. I'm fairly certain the city we were in was in the Greek Archipelago somewhere, but different because the water levels were totally different then and
on this peninsula. And I ended up having memories of the waves coming and of doing work to try to store information away and this temple before the tsunami hit and destroyed and wiped out our city, and so when I say I'm not from this planet, what I mean is that back in the days before the Prediluvian civilization, before Atlantis, I on another planet, saw this world,
saw what was happening here. And I wasn't the only one. I've literally found hundreds of friends who all have this same memory, the same sense that we came here for the renaissance at that time, to be part of this civilization shift. Now you say you came here through incarnation to be born as okay, so you're partially human. So would you say that as an
off world being from another planetary system. They were sophisticated enough to understand that you could incarnate, yes, by ending the life there, yes, and beginning a new life. Correct. So that's a very sophisticated and a very old soul. Even more sophisticated than that. What had been happening for and what I'd tracked among a lot of these friends, and as I did more
of this research that's essentially transpersonal psychological research. That's the way that we study mythologies and ancient cultures and indigenous traditions because it's story based, it's experiential, and when you do the data work right, what you do is you take someone's dream or story or transmission or what they've experienced. You just take it as data, and then you don't share any of that information, and you
hear somebody else's story and data and somebody else's story and data. And I've been doing this, you know, since I was eighteen at this point, and I have assembled massive amounts of data from lots of different kinds of people, and looking at all the data crossovers as well as my own experience, been able to validate that there were essentially hybridizations happening on Earth, and that'd been going on for a long long time, where star nations came in and
actually had sex with humans and had offspring. And these stories of the creation of demigods we see throughout cultures all over the world, and we see stories about these star nation or gods and goddesses or variety of different language around it, where there are now offspring that are very different that are also still human. And what I see is that a lot of the mysteries around the biological origin of races on the planet, which by the way, has never been
solved. Nobody understands why you can put me next to a Nigerian guy and that somehow we're the same species and his ancestors were just in the sun more than me. Right, Yeah, it actually doesn't work. If you calculate it and you go back and you do the evolutionary work, it doesn't make sense. And so there's always been this missing gap of how did we get so diverse? What happened? When did those insertions deletions, changes in the
genome happen? And what we see is when you go sort of prediluvian into these eras, you start seeing very fascinating branches in the genetic code that suggests some level of hybridization. Was going on talk a little bit. I'm going to interrupt you because there's so much to talk about. Graham Hancock and many many others talk about a prediluvian civilization. He cannot give me or anybody because he's no one really knows. Maybe you can touch on this what the civilization
was. It was at a homo sapien sapien. It seems to me that it was a very sophisticated people who had for thousands and thousands of years develop a very high level of technology, which was according to the Maya sources that I have very much connected to Earth energy, geo magnetic energy. Today we're all nuclear, we're blowing our planet up, and we got aliens saying you better watch yourself. You're in trouble. What do you say about the Prediluvian
culture itself. Yeah, Well, the pieces of it that I remember and that i've assembled in data from others suggest we had a global civilization that, during a period of the rise of the last Ice Age, was pressed in more towards the equator, but also had the access of traveling on the ice
and also access to travel on the ocean. And a lot of the technological innovations were related to one stone, resonance, and water, and those three pieces get to be very fascinating keys when you start to realize that stone is often piezoelectric when it's very hardstone, granites, basalts, diririte, these kind of stones, when you get them vibrating in the right frequency, they have pisi electric qualities, which means it puts off electricity when pressure or tension is
applied. You also have systems of rowdy water that we still don't entirely understand, but it looks like based on my work and access to places like the Ossyrian Shaft and the Giza Plateau, getting underneath areas of Sakara, getting into
some of the tunnel systems, and the Serapeum. It looks like there was water routing systems between these locations, and with the way that the locations were designed, they built, you know, places like the Serapeum where you have seventy ton sarcophaguses, you know that are huge single pieces of stone a foot and a half feet thick, you know, sixteen feet long, absolutely precise to a laser. You can shine a laser down the side, there's no
deviation. And the whole boxes have a perfect resonant frequency that is unbelievably powerful, the fact that you could tune a box that size to be a perfect frequency. And I found doing measurements there that the frequency inside of those chambers is the exact same frequency inside of the King's chamber in Giza, in the Great Pyramid. So the boxes they call the bullboxes, Yeah, you're seeing that those granite boxes are Yeah, they're tuned to the same frequency as the
interior of the Great Pyramid. The granite slabs to the ninety one point five Hurts frequency that is one of the resonant tones inside of the King's chamber when you're laying inside of the sarcophagus. Yeah. The other frequency, of course in the King's chamber is one seventeen point six five hurts. And there's both seem kind of arbitrary at first, right ninety one point five and one seventeen
point six five, Like why those notes? Well, you know what the ratio is between those notes point seven seven seven seven w is not a mistake. They are perfect. And you know none of those neither of those notes fit in any of our kind of modern scales. But all of these different sites were tuned to one or another of those three these are This is a different epic, this kind of science. This is not Egyptian, it's not
dynasty. It's prior to their I mean, this is one of thing I was just into Egypt a few weeks ago with our group and what's coming up. It really appears, and I'm interested in your opinion. It appears that many of the buildings, sculptures, and pyramidal structures were there prior to the Dynastics showing up. And then you get these guys putting their car car douche on their statue and saying that's mine, that's who I am. It's like, what, it's not true. I know, it's hilarious when you go
in this arapeum. Have you seen them in there? They literally they could barely even etch it into this if you need lasers or or diamondsaws to cut into it. So they're trying to chip it in and it's rough and it's just barely good. Of course, the softer stone they were able to, you know, make their mark a little clearer. Yeah, but yeah, these are big egotistical pharaohs essentially trying to claim that these extraordinarily powerful sites are
theirs. And they did this over and over again, and they even wiped out, you know, histories and sometimes like when Ocanatin took power, a lot of the work of Amandhotep the third and the earlier dynasties that were very magical, very initiatory traditions. Um, you know, all it took was Ocanatin being like, let's do this new city and focus on the sun disc
and the one God. And you've got a military group led by General Hormb cruising around like, hey, this is a great excuse for us to take out a lot of the other power sources around the country and so like murder and destruction and you know, things and time periods like that. I have a lot of data and resources on because I was incarnated at that time with other friends of mine who experienced a lot of the horrors of these rises and
falls of powerful leaders. Do you have enough memory though, of those times that you can bring it forth and kind of jot it down? Oh yeah, oh really, So talk a little bit about the frequent you mentioned the frequency of the serapeum boxes and the Great Pyramid. What do you think they were doing with tuning and cutting to the level of perfection that we see in these granite boxes and the Great Pyramid, which is a big machine as far
as I'm concerned. Yeah, yeah, I'd say you're that's probably right on target. Not only a machine, but also an initiation system to essentially be a Rosetta stone of advanced theoretical physics and mathemat addicts that's meant to onboard and create specific energetics that would transform consciousness. And that gets into a whole another
story or another layer of the story. But essentially, you know, there's a huge, huge and wealth of resources of magic and knowledge and systemic infrastructure built into all of these systems across these sites, and it's extremely potent just getting a chance to experience these sites. And everybody's always left with the question,
how the heck did they build this? I mean, if they didn't have hundreds of thousands of slaves dragging you know, fifty tons stones into position every three minutes over forty years straight, you know, to build a thing, then well, okay, how did they do it? Well, there is a story about a particular device. It's called Solomon's shamir. You ever heard of this? So Solomon's Shamir is this story about this. They say it's a worm like substance, and in other times they say it's a green
eyed worm. In other cases they say it's a green eye on the tip of a bar. And this thing is described as when you would want to place a massive stone in position, or move a stone, or change its form, you would show it to the shamir, right, And this thing could eat stone, it could melt it, it could build, it could
move things. And it was said that some of the builders of Solomon's Temple used one of the last, one of the last shamirs to build Solomon's temple, and the Shamir was said to have come from the prior age in the days of Moses. Right, found it pre This would be pre flood, right, And it's an old, an ancient relic from the earliest days of earth. Right, that's the way they talked about it. But I actually
found in Dendera. On the walls, I found to what looked like godlike beings, and they're holding a jet, you know, the Egyptian jet. It's like it looks like a pillar or a staff, and the top one of the bottom, and generally it's like the bridge between the worlds, the representation of consciousness, the spine, you know, and the upper levels mean physical, emotional, mental, spiritual. But this one is very particular because
it's tilted. For one, they're holding it like a big device, and the top is all these coils between those bars, and on the top of the jet is a circle, and inside that circle there's two candle looking objects, and those two candle looking objects have these little things they're they're literally look exactly like plasma diodes. Wait a minute, we're not talking about the the images at the half or temple. The Dendera that Eric vandonigans say are light
bulbs not the bulbs? Is another spot? Yeah? Is it one of the crips somewhere? You know, it's I think it's down in that same area if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I took a photo. But the bulbs are over here, and then I think it's next to the bulbs on this side, the same beings. It's that same initiatory hallway that like you'd have to go down in the dark, and you either go right or left if you follow the right hand path. It's all the same.
Damn it, man, I should I was down there. I'll share the picture with you later for yeah years, but yeah, yeah, Essentially this thing, you know, it's got what looks like plasma diodes inside of what looks like a lens, and then it's got these large arc points which look like um arc magnifiers. Like if you have a plasma arc generator and then you have an additional magnetic polar field, you can build the plasma through it and eject plasma out of it. And this is um you know,
this is like a modern engineering marble that we know about now. And there's clearly a channel where the thing would shoot out of. So roughly, what was was it something you could carry on your body, So it wasn't a big machine, but it was a very advanced step kind of thing. Staff. It's it's like a staff that you could use and you would literally like be able to aim this thing, melt stone or change its form, levitate it, or direct it. I mean, the stories of the Shamir that
we have are mind blowing. But now you got to realize that those stories have been retold, retranslated, you know, so long. Like what the thing actually was originally we probably only have a glimpse of because of art on certain temples and things like. So you're making a good point. So, uh, these pharaohs and the various people who come up after the deluge are finding not only temples, pyramids, amazingly cut boxes of granite, but they're
finding technologies. What you're saying, which is the first time I've heard that, because I've been wondering, are they ever going to find a saw that cut the stones that built the pyramid? Are they ever going to find some technologies that shows, you know, that they can melt stone or something like that. Yeah, and you're talking about Shamir I've never this is great, yeah, and I mean you know you can. You can find it on
Wikipedia. Any of your listeners can search Solomon's Shamir sham but they must describe it as something else. Well, they do their best. You know, Wikipedia is always just an assemblage of other research studies, and there's if you get into a lot of the older original studies, it's even more interesting. But for the for the reader, just read the page. Just read the page, and you'll go, whoa, that sounds like a crazy thing, a worm that could eat stone and morph it and build temples. Like what
the heck is that? And of course the illustrations that people try to do of this thing, it's like they actually think it's a worm. But you got to think, like, how would you tell a story technological thing that? And you imagine a plasma arc like a green stone that's focusing like a laser, an arc of plasma. What do you think an arc of plasma looks like a worm? I mean a lot of Graham's work, as you can see, he talks about the plasma arcs in the sky and how they
create all these crazy shapes. We'll imagine a device capable of crafting plasma and wielding it. That's pretty hairy. You brought up a topic that I'm curious about if they are able to find this technology. My friend who does our tours, Muhammad Ambriam, suggests that a lot of these dynastic farahs found enough of it to have kind of a renaissance in the second or third dynasty.
And I'm wondering if that's true or it's just the fact that they found this statuary, the buildings, the pyramids and just like I said, put their cartouche on it and was down with They were down with it. What do you say to that? Yeah, I would, I would definitely say that the dynasties did build temples absolutely and with with you know, in some cases lower level of skill and some cases higher levels of skill and potentially higher levels
of technology. It's kind of similar to when you go through Peru and you check out the work of the incas. You can tell the inc and work because the stones are stacked on top of each other, there's gaps, it's not real perfect. Yeah, they did a good job stacking. Yeah, But then when you see certain sites like a Lante Tambo, where you have you know, one hundred and fifty to two hundred tons stones with zero gap between them that came from a mountaintop on the other side of the valley.
And we have stories of the Incan kings trying to please the gods by bringing a stone down and they kill hundreds of their guys doing it. I fail miserably. You start to wonder, Okay, well, who were the gods that built this original wall? Because this thing is crazy and the original assemblies
from this prior civilization. The stone always in all the sites I've seen around the world, when it's clearly unmistakably from the prediluvian civilization and the time of Atlantis, Lamurium, Moo, whatever before that, the stone is always perfectly molded together. There is no doubt about it. It is. There's no gaps. Every stone is a different size and shape, and it was literally
like they stuff to them together like marshmallows. Yeah, and you can't put a business card or anything between the two stones because it's so perfectly cut. Yeah, we had. There's a lot of evidence of lost technology all through these ancient sites. We're gonna take a short commercial break and give our sponsors a chance to identify themselves, and we'll be right back with my guests. Adam Apollo, hang in there, we'll be right back. My guest today
is Adam Apollo, who is the founder of Unified Movement. He also has developed a comprehensive knowledge of various species who have interacted with humanity over the millennia. Give me your sense of these these prediluvian people. I mean I mentioned that we think we don't know if they're Homo sapien savement, we don't have skeletal remains. I mean, this devastation was a terminating event, wiping the
planet clean of human occupation and animal life too. But if there was and we're getting a sense of earlier epics, I've had an engineer on the Dutch engineer say there were five previous epics that go back to four hundred thousand years. Yeah, that makes sense to me. If the most recent epic was before nine, who are the people? Yeah, well, I don't think there's that much differentiation in terms of our species ism, Like the actual structure
of our species. I'd say we're pretty clearly in Homo sapien by that time, but we're also a species that's now got a whole bunch of branches, racial branches all over the place. And as I pointed out before, a lot of those racial branches are a mystery we don't understand or know much about.
How, you know, somebody became looking completely different from me just because the more sunlight, or you know, why would an Asian person have different qualities because the water or because you know, the different trees they were under, or the plants. They ate what happened there. So these these qualities, I'd say, you know, are strongly there's a strong suggestion that these qualities maybe from some level of extraterrestrial interconnection. And we see a lot of
proof of that. The Maya, for example, saying that the origin story of humans is the four corn people coming from the four corners of the river in the sky, which they're referring to the Milky Way galaxy. And that means the white people, yellow people, black people, and red people. Those are the four colors of the corn. Yeah. And then you have gods and goddesses all over the planet, you know, interfacing creating demigods with
humans. So we can see that these genetic branches likely started then. And then the question is, well, what does that culture look like right, and what we see before the ice is a lot of seafaring culture, Lamerian culture, advancements in navigation, and a lot of I would say, Pleadian tribe coming down. And then during the time of Atlantis, what we find is a whole bunch of other technologies and knowledge bases coming in and showing up
here. I've traced a lot of the Stone technologies to being Arcturian based. I've traced some of the deepest and most foundational metaphysics and ritual studies and occult knowledge to the Syrian system. And let me stop you real quick, Adam. Sure, this is something that has been coming up. And Linda Molton Howe is really she was in this talk with the Forbidden Archaeology yesterday Graham and
others. Right, Graham's talking about very functional things in Lynda that comes out of nowhere and starts talking about the Pladeans and how everyone is like stuck with their mouth wide open. And I'm not adverse to it. Sure. My problem is that ancient Aliens puts alien as the progenitors and also the engineers behind everything. We can't explain. That's wrong, that's too much of a shortcut.
Yeah, because you're like, Okay, we don't know who did it, but it must be the aliens, right, that's my problem with the eighteen names. Are you guys listening? You know, you know how I feel. Yeah, The question is if there was, as you say, an integration between alien civilizations and the Homo sapiens of Earth. Yeah, how do we know that? Is it just because of the differences you talk about, or is it possible that there's a genetic memory that needs to come forward
and maybe you're one of the firsts that are bringing it up. Yeah, well, I mean there's a lot of reasons besides sort of the you know, obviously we want to defend humanity. We want to defend that, like
we did this ourselves. Of course we got to. We're not you know, if Star Nation was gonna just show up and save us today, you know, like probably would have already happened, right, And we know that there's non interference policies more now because obviously at certain points in time there was contact that happened, and a lot of unfortunate things maybe happened because of that.
But I'm more interested in who we actually are because yeah, obviously humans and life has been evolving and developing on this planet for a long time. This planet is one of the most incredible, diverse, rich ecosystems in the universe. I'm sure like it is an incredible planet, and especially based on my experience with other worlds and other people's experience with other worlds, Earth is
extraordinarily special. And you know, you've got a lot of more souls here than we're here before, and they all just pop out of nowhere or out of God and just become humans or whatever. Or is it possible that some of the souls came from other worlds? And if you came from another world and you forgot about it and you've been here for you know, thousands of
years or whatever, wouldn't it be interesting to you to know that? Because how would how different would you feel about aliens if you knew that they were your ancestors. The whole reincarnation deal has been repressed by the Church, and so we can't live that, I know, you know, we don't. We're not shown how to access that right right well, And of course there's a lot of religions that do deeply look at reincarnation, and in a lot of those, if you take Hinduism, for example, you go far back,
they literally talk about beings coming down on ships. They created vemanas that are flying around the earth. They're able to vibrate in and out of the physical they have advanced technologies, and that's like in their history, you know what I'm saying. So I think, I think to be holistic researchers, we have to look at every angle. Some people hear the ideas I say
without context and they're just like, oh, he's nuts. Whatever. It doesn't bother me because if you actually take what I'm saying and you put it in context and you're willing to study and willing to look at it, what you find actually is the beautiful potential of our self discovery. And so it's not about the aliens did all this for us, and all the advanced stuff came from the aliens. It's more about, well, we had we humans
had gifts at certain times in history, and we lost those gifts. We lost that history, and now we're in a time where our archaeologists aren't even willing to look at it because the British scientists laid down the law of how it's supposed to be, and we know it's bs. Yeah, and so we gotta at least break the embargo on the truth of who we are and our own past. And yes, there are complexities there that hint to us
to look at potentially other star systems and other civilizations. And there's other fascinating parts of the stories, like, for example, all of your audience out there, that's Irish, right, I'm i I'm half Irish and I love to ask Irish people, you know, what does it mean to you to be Irish? And most Irish people I know celebrate Saint Patty's Day and they're like Saint Patty's Day, you know, it's like leprecns and we got four
leaf clovers. It's the luck of the Irish, you know. And yeah goal and yeah Vierginisberia watch some sports and it's like, yeah, that is absolutely not Irish. In fact, Saint Patrick was known as the person who chased the snakes out of Ireland. Well you know what the snakes were. They weren't real snakes. The snakes was the serpent traditions and the Druid traditions,
Pagans, the Pagans, the dragon peoples. You know, the Welsh flag still a dragon, the dragon peoples were the peoples that went back to the time of Avalon and the times of you know, the high priestesshood and the sacred councils of men, going back all the way to the Tuatha de Danen and the Tuatha Dednen were described as elves right as fay people from the
sky. Their story is that they came in riding clouds. They landed on the Iron Mountain, and they brought with them four sacred treasures from the three islands in the sky. Now what the Hecker islands in the sky. And you know what those four sacred treasures are. The cauldron of the Dagda, which could replicate food and generate enough food for an army forever. You know, a magical spear that later Christianity describes as the spear that pierced Jesus.
And you would never lose a bat destiny. The spear of Destiny is artifact. End, you've got the Stone of Fall, which is essentially a weather controlling stone that can manipulate the air and magic and stones and things like that. Sounds just like the Black arcstone that we talk about that's in the Ark of the Covenant, right, And then you know what the fourth treasure is the Sword of Light of Nauda, and it disappears and re emerges as CALIBERN
and then in the Bristol Merlin we hear about it as ex Caliber. I mean, these are the stories of legends, right yeah. And when you look at the tarot deck, what do you have? Chalices, cups, cauldrons, staves, spears, right, pentacles, diamonds, the sacred stone and swords or spades. Literally the taro are playing card decks. All of these things are connected to an ancient story that is Irish that all of us
forgot. You must be very disappointed. I'm very disappointed. I mean, it's faithful because I worked with Indigenous elders for years, and I'm telling you it was so hard for me because I both love the Lakota traditions, I love the sweat lodgers. I have those parts in my soul too, But there was always like, well, you got to claim your tradi who is your ancestors? And I'm like, well, my ancestors were like raped by the English and like you know, they're like killing my people and they fled
to the United States. I don't know what happened before that, but I had to trace and trace, and then I realized the ancient Celtic wisdom was almost a completely eradicated nobody even remembers it. That's amazing. Yeah, it's funny how you can really trace your background by working with indigenous people because they know the land. Yeah, they know the traditions. Amazing. Hey, I want to ask you about your Unified movement? What is that? You're
the FI hundred of this. Yeah, what is that all about? Well, back in two thousand and twelve, a close friend of mine, Adil and I a Dil Kassam had he had this vision of, like, how do we do a new version of live aid for the planet, Like big concerts around the world, raise a bunch of money, transform a bunch of
places. And I was doing these things called global telepathic conjunctions. I was finding all my Jedi homies and I get hundreds of thousands of people synchronized doing some magic together, like an operation for healing of consciousness or awareness of environmentalism and things like that. And so we brought these ideas together and he was like, dude, I got it. I got the domain. It's called unifi dot org. And I was like, oh my god, let's do
something for December twenty first, twenty twelve. We end up having this whole conversation getting into it, and we decide we're going to create the biggest synchronized conjunction of energy the planet's ever seen for December twenty first, twenty twelve. And so we end up building this project. He's got this friend Patrick Krownfley, who he brings in. Patrick is doing med mobs, meditation mobs inside
capitol buildings, and he's got thousands of orgs he's already connected to. So we bring in all his orgs, We bring in a Dell's network, we bring in my network. I build a bunch of tech for the whole thing. And what we do is we end up creating events in Egypt. I was in Egypt with the Doo Lab and Isis and Drya and several others doing a massive event at the Pyramids. I had a crew in chichen Itza doing
filming and work down there. We had a crew at Stonehenge. We had a career in Jerusalem, and we had crews in cities all over the world, you know, Tokyo, London, Paris, New York, COLOSSI seen this somewhere it sounds like I've seen this. Yeah, it was the first big wave of Unify, and we got everybody dropped into a synchronized meditation all over the planet at the same time on December twenty first, twenty twelve.
And of course in Egypt, we're standing outside the pyramids and guards are literally aiming oozies at us, yelling at us, no meditation, no meditation. Oh my god. We've freaked them out so much. But but they've gotten a lot better about it. We've got a lot more guards on our side these days. But that started a wave where since then, you know, we've done almost a hundred campaigns around the world. We've unified hundreds of millions
of people. We have over one hundred million reach a month because we've built so many massive organizational connections that we can actually bypass talk a little bit about the effect of the work. So if you're all meditating in different places, I mean I can, Yeah, I've been meditating for thirty years, but I mean this is a more of a focus meditation, I think, right,
it is, And we do different kinds of campaigns. So there's the Peace Day meditation thing, but we've also done indigenous you know work where we're synchronized efforts to support indigenous peoples, or World Water Day where we get everybody out to a beach or a river doing a river cleanup or a beach cleanup
and also men absolutely yeah. And figuring out how to galvanize all of that energy into more direct, long term physical impact has been part of my work over the years building education systems, and now I'm building a platform that can actually manage all of that as missions and earn people gamification and points and badges and earn money essentially to do good in the world. So it Unified has been a long journey, and I worked in the core of it for a
while. I stepped out for a long time. I brought in the executive director who's now running it. Her name is Tammy Scarlett, and she's a close friend of mine, and she and I are, you know, working on the next level of the strategy for this this organization as it's now matured and ten years old. Amazing. I'd love to hear that kind of stuff real quickly. On the meditation side, do you give your the groups a certain mantra that shifts the energy as they're meditating or because I mean I sometimes
yeah, I mean, meditation can be very powerful if it's directed. Yeah,
you know. Yeah. A lot of the campaigns, we'd have massive broadcasts where we have Deepak Chopra and Michael beckwith and Chief Phil Lane, a lot of you know, a lot of like the spiritual family community from all different sides and walks of life, and a lot of speakers here we've had as guests, and those broadcasts essentially have a lot of different components to them, and from spiritual teachings to mantras to meditations to mudras, and physical practices
to inspiring videos. So we've done a huge amount of media work and a lot of the media side of it has been a Dill's magic that he's brought over and over again. It's very talented in that space. And a lot of the kind of on the ground organizational work in different places has been the work of Patrick and uh and my work has been more technological and educational. So how do we take that work, plug it in, make it better,
you know, actually create sustainability and education. How do we make sure that everything's actually run properly so that we're not you know, we're tracking our money properly and doing the things we need to do properly. So I've been clean up crew for Unify a bit more than kind of the over side. Yeah, just kind of on the outside, being like the third party making sure things stay on track. But I, you know, I it's a deep it's it's such a beautiful, beautiful group of people behind it, and
people like Jacob Devaney, who's been there from the beginning. I've just written tons of incredible articles. People like him and Josh Smith have done unbelievable amounts of work on social media raising consciousness and I'm just so proud of everybody's work and sounds like a fantastic organization. Yeah. Yeah. My guests today has
been Adam Apollo and really a pleasure meeting you. Thank you. As we conclude, I have just recently had an interview with a a woman who who names Yvon Smith, who does hypnotherapy with people who have been abducted and if as it appears in her situation, and she's worked with thousands of people. These malevolent beings are here and just seems to they seem to be harvesting us and leaving a trail of misery and problems and it just doesn't make any sense
to me. Your situation seems more enlightened unless there's a part of it that we've missed and you've had an abduction where it was not as pleasant as it seems. What's going on with this? Why do we have to have this million plus sexual intervention, as Willie Spieber calls it, where semen and ovums are being removed for hybridization. The process to get that has been very seems
traumatic. What's going on? What would you speculate? Yeah, well, I can just say from my direct experience connecting with Star nations that at least since two thousand and five, there are no unauthorized abductions going on that are not based on agreement of the soul on Earth that's already agreed with that species to incarnate here in order to facilitate that process. And I mean that that's pretty brutal, dear statement to me. And I had a lot of curiosity
about this too, and I went to meet with Stan Romanec. You know, Stan has been well known for his experiences of both like abductions and having hybrid children, all these things, and when you listen to him talk, it's like it's kind of scary, it's kind of exciting, it's kind of creepy. And as I watched him and I listened to him talk, I was I just kind of saw through him for a moment and I was like, oh my god, he's a gray but he's in a human body.
And so I went over after he had a mom people wanting to, you know, him to sign their books and stuff, And once it was kind of clear, I said, so Sustain, you know, like, are you ever going to tell them who you are? And he looks at me and he's like, how did you know? And I was like, well, I mean I can see the gray in you, like I can see that you incarnated here. And he's like, nobody ever notices that. You know, it wouldn't sell his books because they wouldn't be quite as like,
well, you know, sorry Stan if you're watching this. But but essentially, I that was the first key. And then I started really inquiring with galactic family and asking the hard questions. And I do open up communications sometimes to do that, and the answers I got was They're like, no, there's been there's been abductions and processes on this planet and things like that.
Going on on Earth for a long time because the Grays were allowed to study humanity and how are they allow this disagreement that we all hear about the Eisenhower signing a document that says, hey, you Grace can for exchange of technology, you can work on anybody you want, you can abduct them whatever.
Is that bullshit? Well there's some accuracy to that because the technology that humanity has covered, most of that ARV alien reproduction vehicle technology, etc. Was all from a crashed Gray ship, right, so it's a Zeta ship. We got that tech that gave us some leverage to have some conversations and so but here's the really interesting thing is that the Zetas and the Grays are not part of the overall galactic council that has this peaceful, enlightened civilization across the
galaxy. They're still working their way into full participant roles, and some of them, you know that aren't just based in the home world anymore. They are part of that community now because it's kind of the species split in different ways. But the story that I understand and that I've been able to recover is that the Grays initially they had chips installed into the back of their brains long long time ago, and this was to help them access the Internet with
their minds. But then there was backdoors built into those chips. They got manipulated and programmed into becoming essentially like a super soldier program like Stormtroopers, you know, as we see in Star Wars, and that army turned on the galaxy with the power of the reptilian robot armies programming them and taking over.
This was I mean, and this is why so many people I think resonate with Star Wars is because that whole tale about this massive galactic coup happened a long long time ago, and the trauma of that is still present in us. We can still feel the fear of it. I mean, I certainly am scared to death of sticking a chip inside my body, Like what kind
of backdoor is that kind of thing going to have? You know, it's already invasive enough that we got the programming and disinformation campaigns and stuff that we have. Yeah, and so you know, the Grays since the end of the Orion Wars, when the end of that conflict happened and the Death Stars the programming hubs were destroyed and the Reptilians were quarantined back, and then there's like reconciliation processes that have gone on for a long time with that species.
The grays had to get their individuality back, and so they were invited to come to other worlds with highly individualized beings to study them, and humans were, you know, an ultimately great example of that. But at certain levels of interference that became a problem, and so galactic communities like Shihelei Guardians and Jahonians and Lacrinon and some of the ones you always hear about Syrian cleating and
Arturian, those groups where that's our name for them. But those groups started getting much more involved in ensuring that the Library of Gaya would be protected and maintained. And so there's been a level of care in policies and care for this planet for a long time. And then in my experience, it's around two thousand and five. Any negative interfering patterns were stopped. At that time. Guardianship was placed around this planet to make sure that we don't end up
going down the wrong track. And the only thing that you can't ever interfere it with is the sovereignty of an individual soul. Choosing to go through a certain experience as a soul contract with your own people. So if you're a gray you could die, you can incarnate here. You can make a soul contract and agree to get picked up and have your eggs taken and whatever.
And so you say, these are they have a lifetime on some gray planet and they've incarnated here, and they're saying okay, in order to go through this process and eventually to heal and reconcile with themselves. That's amazing. It's I mean, it's I know that's a hard line to draw, but I've experienced and gone deep in healing work with a lot of people that have had
these kinds of experiences. I've read a lot of their books and gone through Andreas Affair and things like that, and what you find is usually after they get over the fear, they realize it's the best thing that ever happened to them, and it's actually part of their soul's destiny and it's what it's all
about. Now. That's not to say there haven't been false abductions. That's not to say that there haven't been government programs that have done things that are intended to create a lot of fear and a lot of disinformation because there's been big cover ups for a long time and a lot of people with a lot of power wanting to keep certain things secret for their own means. Well, so amazing to me is if our government knows about this and is sanctioning it,
it's almost it's almost anti humanity. It's it's a terrible thing to do, and to not give us an idea of why they would do this and for what future reason or what benefits, because yeah, if the government is behind this or they know about it, they're not telling us anything. Well, there's certainly been a strong effort towards space based weapons for a long time.
I mean Werner von Braun and Carol Rosen exposing his story that eventually the extraterrestrial threat was going to be the thing to control, and the prior threat before that terrorism We saw that go down, right, and you know, you look at things like nine to eleven. You know, one of my best friends, Eric, he was a firefighter in New York City and he's friends with all these engineers and everybody who studied the sites that was not a
plane hitting a building, that was a controlled demolition. Somebody sat up and the stories of hundreds of dump trucks full of something coming out of the buildings the night before and all the complaint calls about it, like where did all the gold go? Basically right, that was under those builds. I haven't heard that. Did they clear at a bank? They cleaned out a freaking massive vaults under that thing. And then you look at the airplane that hint
the Pentagon. Yeah, come on, that is not an airplane. Hello. You know, so we see that kind of stuff and then you know, you fast forward through Cambridge analytic mind control campaigns. How do you manipulate the masses? And then what do you end up with? COVID nineteen the
biggest rabbit hole given to humanity? So yeah, I mean, we have valid concern to be worried about certain people's idea that they want to either accelerate the revelation, you know, or whatever they're killing off of humanity so we can all go to heaven or hell or whatever, or you know, culling the masses so that there's more resources for everyone. There's a lot of dark,
traumatized agendas out there. But you know what I would say to kind of balance that discussion is that you know when you're in touch and incoherence with the truth in yourself, when you own that truth, when you're truly comfortable and accepting of who you really are, and you operate out of love, a gope, you know, trust, and you're giving your heart. When you're in those states of coherence, you can feel bs so clearly somebody walks
up to you and they're inauthentic. Immediately you're like, come on, just be yourself with me, Like it's okay, right, you can feel the lies, Yeah, And I think that's why, you know, the inner work and the shadow work is so important because when we've done that work, we can see right through the lies and we can feel where the truth is and who's bringing truth, and it feels vastly different. So how can people get a hold of you? What's where'd your contact info? Tell us about
yourself? Yeah, people can just google Adam Apollo. There's lots of ways to find me. My website is Adam Apolo dot com. If you're interested in Unify in our global campaigns, that's Unifi dot org and just slash Unify on Facebook, Twitter, etc. And I also have a school for guardians and essentially what my students called Jedi training, and that's Guardian dot is okay, And if you're interested in in this new form of mission system and planetary
transformation system. We're in our second raise right now for a project called core Nexus c O R N e x US dot I S and you can learn more about that project. We welcome anybody who wants to be a collaborator, investor help us build this system to help liberate ourselves from the centralized social systems and actually take stewardship of the planet. He did a couple programs with Gay Yeah. Yeah, upcoming events so speaking gigs that we can tell you can
tell us about. Yeah, I got lots of lots of upcoming events and speaking gigs, but UM, one of the most recent or most coming up UM, we're doing a private sort of Jedi training Hogwarts School of Magic Intensive down in Mexico, UM and that website is welcome to Sanctum dot com and we still have a few slots open, so if anybody wants to come and join, that'd be great. On Gaia, you can find me on Interviews
with Ed. You can find me on George Norrie's show UM and also recently on deep Space, although I'm not sure they put all of my teachings in context there very well, and I don't agree with the way they depicted some of the species, so don't don't don't take that from They never asked me, you know, what what they should look like, or or anybody else I know. Um, but Gaya, you know, has a lot of great programs and uh and so those are some of the places that you can
find me on there, as well as on Churches Into the Vortex. That's one of my favorites. Excellent, fantastic Adam, A real pleasure. We're gonna have to have you back on the program. Thanks again, Thanks so much. It's such a pleasure and honor. Thank you. You know, I've said it a few times that the frequency of et civilizations being you know, a thousand and five thousand, a million years advanced to us Earth humans is going to be different. They're just going to be biologically different and their
energy systems are going to be different. And it's funny because Adam actually gets into a whole series of discussions and writings about the various civilizations he's met with, and it really comes down to perhaps the next generation of people earthlings who are what I call these indigo people, These people who are highly psychic, very much in tune with their physicality, work on the body, mind, and spirit levels in a synchronistic way where they can bring down a quiet space,
meditative space to interact with off world types. And this may be what is the next step in having more full contact with Earth, with non non Earth entities beings, is to have a generation of people who can comfortably interact, who know that they originated from another planetary, another another planet, and you know, if if the being is in a world that's pure hydrogen or
pure water, they can they can relate. So and that's not to say that those of us in our forties, fifties, sixties and beyond cannot relate to these beings. It just is more of a challenge because we're not used to and you know, and I do know people older than me who do meditate, who are able to quiet their minds, who are just mellow. There's a whole generation and I'm part of this, that are considered hippies, and hippies were people who are in touch with their body, their mind,
their spirit, who meditate. Not necessarily all hippies meditate. You know, it's the whole experimental sixties, seventies and so on. Even some of the eight nineteen eighties. People who are born in those periods, who are much more in touch with their themselves than the earlier generations. My parents and I know a lot of people of my parents' generation world War two and post World War two. They don't like people touching them. They could never conceive of
having a full body massage. I'm laughing because it's like the missing out at all this wonderful body work. They would never consider doing meditation. And it's just the generation they're just it's nothing, isn't not wrong. But you know, by not being in touch, not allowing someone to work with you on a body work or oriental medicine which is acupuncture or yoga or tai chi, they you know, they're struggling, not to say all of them are struggling.
But when you're more in touch, you're able to reach beyond your physicality. And this is what I think is a big plus and where the communication with a different race of beings comes into play. So this is what Adam and these Indigo children are all about. Is there. They know they came from another planet. They're aware of their incarnations prior to being on Earth. I mean, if I really touch into it, I feel very much. I mean for years I was very much wondering what the hell I was doing
here on Earth. I didn't get to the point where I was like, what planet did I come from? But I do feel very out of sorts with the general population many times. And I follow politics and like right now, and I've said this a lot, that the United States is an adolescent country. We've only been around a couple hundred years, and as a as a group, and you know, we have lots of people who are very young souls incarnating in the United States, and it's a challenge, you know,
when you have youngsters working with older souls. So I'm not going to get into that because I'll get bit if I do. Anyhow, I don't know where I'm going with this, but the Indigoes are probably the ambassadors of Earth. And just this recent revelation from this intelligence officer he was in his thirties, Gris who basically says that the United States is keeping UFOs UAPs and very likely alien remains their bodies, and he's like fed up with it.
And we need more of that. Now. It's a problem when you're in the military because you can be shot for treesion or put in jail. So he must be having to keep an eye on the back of his head, eyes in the back of his head so that he can stay on top of the on the planet and stay alive. But I'd see more and more of this, and as more enlightened people take roles in government and military, you know, we probably are going to have more disclosure and more data coming out.
I think it's going to bypass the military though, because the military is actually quite backwards. And I've said this about our own government, and I'm talking about the United States, but this also falls within the United Kingdom and throughout Europe. These these traditions of governess just have to change. You cannot have alien ships, have alien interactions and not tell the rest of us. It just doesn't work. But you know, that's all about control, and
the military is all about control. And look, if they're still adherent to a document known as the Brookings Institute study that NASA gave that was written and studied in nineteen sixty, if that's their fundamental basis of their work and not disclosing. Then we have a real problem. That's a backward thinking, very very backward. And then you add to that reaching out to the religious sector to see what their feeling is on first contact. Another mistake, and not
a light mistake either, a very distinct mistake. Why don't they ask the movers and shakers in Hollywood or social media. That's going to be a whole different narrative, and perhaps it's going to be forced upon them. So I
will say this also, there's been more and more sightings. And if you remember the interview I did with Marion Dnick, the NASA astronomer, he believes that the photographs that he took of these UAPs were clear and very detail held because the operators of these vehicles purposely slowed down so that the equipment he was using was able to capture these saucers, able to capture the insignia. Get his book. Get his book, Marion Rudnick. Go to Amazon, get
his book. You'll see the great details of these crafts that he uses. They rowed in on the other thing that he mentioned is that the fields that are generated around these crafts so they can fly at tremendous angles and g forces and so forth was turned down because a lot of times you take a picture of a UFO or UAP and the image is blurry or it's it's not in focus. Well, it's because there's a field around these craft. We don't
know it's generating the field. Its technology that's you know, many many decades years, you know, centuries ahead of us. But they were able to turn it down, slow down, so Mary could take pictures of their craft. I love that that is acknowledging that you know, they want us to they want us to see their craft. Now the next step is to allow us to see their physical form. And we've gotten a lot of this, and I will mention this. There is a well known journalist in Mexico.
His name is Heimie Massan. Who, oh god, this must be five six years ago. He talks about doctor and a medical doctor who actually did a physical examination of a live alien humanoid. It looks very much. I think it was a tall a tall, fair skin, a very humanoid looking alien. But he was allowed to inspect and do a physical analysis. I have not found the book that this was written, but I want to get this. I think the doctor actually wrote the book. Now if he speaks
one hundred percent Spanish and doesn't speak English. That's a tough one. We've had Spanish speaking guests on the program. It just is a real challenge because we had to have an interpreter. My Spanish is not good enough to just repeat what he's saying, and that doesn't make for good podcasting. It just makes it really challenging. But I am going to probably get him on this
program because I go to Mexico every year with tours. I have lots of friends down there, and they are not only welcoming of all world types, but there is just so much more photography, video capture, because though the crafts are not going to get shot at, they're not going to worry about some American shooting a ray gun at them or some kind of a weapon that destabilizes their craft. The Mexican government or much more lenient, much more relaxed.
We see this also in South America, and when we have our guests from South America come on, Raphael Eisman, he talks about just massive sightings in Peru and South America. So I don't like that. I don't like the fact that Americans are just you know, idiots and they can't get their shit together and they have to shoot at everybody. Shoot first, ask questions later is the motto, and it's not a good one. It's just shows that we're idiots in America. There's a lot of problems with America. I'll
tell you. So. All right, Well, that was fun and that is our part three of content in the Desert. I hope you're enjoying this. It's kind of a spin on Earth Ancients. We get a little bit of the as I mentioned in the first part of the show. We get a taste of other aspects of ancient Earth as it relates to our presence in a collective of planets in the in the galaxy and the cosmos. You know, it's gonna be fun. And I thought about this a while ago.
Real quickly. I had a contact a friend who said I could he could get an et to come on the show. And this was when I first did Earth Ancients, and I pursued it. It didn't turn out as I thought. It didn't happen. But if you're listening out there and you're from another planetary system and you're a hybrid or whatever, you can contact me at Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com, and I'd love to have you
on the program. I love to talk to you about what you're doing here, and I promise not to divulge if you're from a federation or perhaps you can actually say that. I would love to speak to an off world individual, a being, and obviously you know there's some challenges, but I think we can smooth it over and make it so you are comfortable, you're you have complete safety, and you can, you know, basically tell us your
story and we will listen. I'll share as Hell's listen, and we have three hundred thousand people that listen to Earth Ancients every month, so that's a lot of people who would love to know about you and your assignment here or the purpose here, or if you're just aware of your incarnation like my guest
today Adam Apollo. But perhaps you are not born of this planet, or you're born of an alien, non earthling and you are here to learn, You're here to understand what the current race is up to, and perhaps you have a purpose and I'd love to know about that. So again, I love to interview off world types Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com. Send me an email and let's see what we can do something. God, I love that idea. All right. I think that's it for today.
I want to think my guests. Adam Apollo and that was fun. Check out his website. He's written quite a bit of material and he also he mentioned he did a series with Gaya called Ed and I think that would be of fun too. So thanks to Adam and as always, the team of Ruth Thomas and Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. Hey man, you guys rock and I appreciate everything you do. All right, take care of you well and we will talk to you next time.