I'm out here in the rain. I had to get some care. I've been scooped up for breaks. And fortunately or unfortunately, it's raining really hard. We're up here in northern California. We're in a what they call the atmospheric river zone, three hundred mile long cloud and but it's not deterring me and I'm in the rain. So ah boy. Some thoughts, some conclusions.
Over the last several months, we're getting a sense of the previous epoch, the Homo sapien sapiens, the people who were populating the Earth at the time, how they developed, likely over thousands of years, a science, an earth based, earth centric science that was using the earth geomagnetic energy, which is gravity based. And now what it appears to be a pyramid science.
And it looks like and we'll learn more about this today with our guest Chris Dunn, that looks like they figured out a way to harness this energy through these pyramids. And we don't know quite how they distributed the energy, how they tapped it and used it, but there is evidence in these stone bowls, vases, and platewear that they used powerful lathes to cut them. And in a few weeks we'll have some guests talking about what has been described
as a unique technology to cut stone balls and vases. So that's we're getting down to it. We're getting down to understanding the science behind these pyramids and the society, the civilization, the culture that is no longer with us. One of the other interesting developments is that these early civilizations were very cosmologically focused. They understood are cosmos, the various planets that were near to us.
But it's also coming to bear that their likely connection with other civilizations and other nearby constellations. We know from Robert Temple's research that they did have the telescope.
How powerful were these telescopes, We don't know. How accurate were these telescopes, We don't know, but more and more data is coming to light that they had a number they had accurate they had accurate readings, accurate understanding of these planets, and the Maya understood them energetically, and this is very interesting. It looks like the Sumerians understood them as well as the pre dynastic Egyptians understood the energetics behind these planets. So what that means is we have
a Homo sapien. We have a human that is understanding of who understood the energetics behind planets, understood the energetics behind human physiology, and created some fascinating machines around this technology. So this is really critical and it's beginning to supply us with more data on just how this previous civilization, this previous epoch worked with Earth. They didn't create toxic nuclear power, they didn't have generators that
generated energy through turbines. They tapped the Earth's natural reservoir of gravity, electromagnetic energy, which is also toleric energy, to field energy. So this is all coming to light in our guests and what we're understanding from the research that different scientists are conducting, and this is fascinating. This is important to understand because we need to reproduce that. We need to be able to create programs
and technology and develop a science that is Earth based. Now we're gonna here today's briefly from Chris Dunn on what Tesla developed in his Warncliffe Tower in New
York. Because Tesla's belief was that he could supply through his towers unlimited energy to power planes, trains, cars, even submarines could use this technology without the creation of nuclear power, and he didn't get a chance to complete the Warrencliff Tower, but a lot of people are beginning to think that Tesla was able to understand perhaps the Great Pyramids science and use a similar technology in building
the Wartoncliffe Tower. So we're gonna learn more about that today with Chris Dunn, and in future programs with other scientists and other research investigators who are studying geomagnetic energy telluric energy in the same manner that John Burke tested Pyramids and other sacred sites around the world. So today's program is Giza the Tesla Connection, and my guest is Chris Dunn. It's always good to talk to Chris Dunn.
And it's been a while. I am communicating with Chris on and off every year, and I was thinking the other day, I think the first time I met Chris was back in I want to say twenty It might have been before two thousand, but it was at a conference in Berkeley when his first book had come out. And since that time, he's become a household name, which is kind of fun. And he's got a new book, Giza, the Tesla Connection, Acoustical Science and the Harvesting of Clean Energy.
This book I've been banging on the wall for a while, and I think he's probably been sitting on it, but he hasn't because there's a lot of things happening in his life. So we're going to get to the root of this new book. We're going to see what he's up to in our program today, and I'm looking forward to it. So, Hey, Chris, good to see you. Welcome to Earth, Ancients, Good to see you. Cliff. Hey, I want to ask you real quickly, and I
can't remember when's the first time you actually went into the Cufu Pyramid. It was like in the nineteen eighties, or was it even before that. It
was actually in nineteen eighty six. Oh, that's okay, it was eighty six, Yeah, yeah, okay, So i'd been I've been researching the pyramid since seventy seven and had already published an article entitled Advanced Machining in Ancient Egypt, and that was published in nineteen eighty four, and I was working on the Giza power Plant, and of course, during that period of time, I didn't really have the means to travel to Egypt and spend time there
researching. In nineteen eighty six, I was able to put together the money to go over there, and so that was the first time that I actually visited Egypt. I had to ask you this too, and I probably am rehashing some of the old stuff. But when I first went to the plateau Giza Plateau, I looked at those pyramids and I thought, how in the hell could any dynastic pharaoh put this thing together, let alone drag the stones in the interior chambers whatever it is ten twenty fifty hundred miles. Did you
buy the narrative that this was a tomb for cufu Oh? No, I had already, as I said, I was already working on the Giza power plant. So the tomb theory was in my rearview mirror, as it was a lot of other people, because you know, you know what started me on my quest was trying to answer a huge question mark that was over the Great Pyramid and other pyramids, and that was were they really tombs? And if they weren't, what were they used for? So I approached it from
that perspective and tried to understand their true nature. And so that's that's that brought the Gezer power plant, and then I lost technologies and now now my more recent. But yeah, you know, in your early chapter, I think it's in the introduction you believe and you actually characterize the builders as planetary Earth scientists. And when you say that, and and and we're not even
talking about what you've discovered in this new research since your last book. These guys not only were brilliant engineers, but they were looking at the natural flow of geomagnetic energies, tolluric fields and so forth in the creation of this pyramid, right, yes, I mean when you consider the relationship that is encoded in the Great Pyramid, the relationship with the Earth, and in terms of
this dimensions, the Great Pyramid is an of the Earth. I mean it describes described in the Great in the Great Pyramid is the circumference, the polar circumference and then the equatorial circumference of the Earth, and then the relationship pie
and it's I had determined that, well, it wasn't me. I mean, I was just going off of what other scientists had had discovered there, particularly one John Taylor, who described the relationship of the Great Pyramid with the Earth and uh, and I thought that it was actually a harmonic integer of the planet and being such that harmonics may have something to do with the Great
Pyramid and the Earth and also be related to how the pyramid functioned. There's also a lot of as you know, and you've been there many times and you've experienced it, that when you go inside the Great Pyramid, there is definitely a relationship with the human in terms of the resonance of the structure.
And even if you're a skeptic and you go in with a lot of a lot of people will have different experiences, but they some of them have very profound experiences just working with the frequencies or what they call the energies within the pyramid. And in this I never I didn't really deal with that in depth
in the geezer popland. But the recent research by Freedoman Freud, who is a physicist I had been for thirty years, I believe, and his discoveries, it became apparent to me that there are answers to those questions that people ask as to what is it about the Great Pyramid that affects the human organism and why do people have these different experiences when they go inside the Great Pyramid? And some people and in one of my chapters I kind of explain that
in a way. And I interviewed several people as to what their experiences were when they went inside the Great Pyramid, and the responses I got were quite interesting, and generally they explained things that are apparently or seem, you know, to a Cartesian mind to be supernatural and uh and mystical. And I think that's what drives a lot of the the conversation about the Great Pyramid being
some some kind of temple or place of initiation. But the but the experiences that they describe are are definitely unusual, paranormal, you might say so. And I think there there are answers to those questions, and I addressed that
those in my book. As Barbara hank Klow, who reviewed my book said, it's as she told me, she said, well, it's that I'm glad you addressed the the elephant in the room, you know, when it comes to that particular question, because you know, typically the you know, the scientists and those who are you know, they demand evidence and work in a three dimensional world with looking forth answers that can be measured and proven.
They would they would kind of slough that that those reports are and quick them to like an over active imagination or something like that. And some people that, you know, it's kind of like the whole UFO thing that somebody experiences has an experience and they describe it. Unless and it's so fantastic and unbelievable, unless you actually witness it yourself and experience it yourself, you tend to
deny it. And and generally, you know, people who they don't want to be seen as being kind of weird or different, and generally they will tend to hold it, hold it to themselves. In fact, some people who reported their experiences told me that I don't want my name mentioned because I don't want to be thought to be crazy. So you know, it's kind of like that that that kind of stigma the people. But you have been
in the pyramid many times, right, many times. But I'm just curious because you're doing so much work on this and your mind is on it. Ah. You know, in these books and in your articles and in your lectures and in our conversation. This is not phuronic Egypt that's building this thing. This is an epoch we don't know how many thousands of years in the past, but these are unique Homo sapien sapiens We're not going to say they're aliens. That's we're not going to talk about that. We're going to say
that there's the human touch, is there right right right? Definitely? And so my question to you is when you say that the guys who built these what we would call engineers, they're planetary Earth scientists. They're working in harmony to build this thing. So it's I mean, it's by is it? Is it safe for humans when it was active? Do you think? I mean, how how would you two things? First of all, talk a
little bit about your best guess on the humanoids that built the thing. Well, I think that probably they were, you know, a different version of us. In other words, they had they had developed that technology over a centuries. I mean, when you when you look at our our civilization and the development of technologies the last like from the Industrial Revolution in the eighteen hundreds and up until today, you know, the advancement of science and technology and
physics has been has been going by leaps and bounds. You know, when you compare when you compare the phones that we used today to those that I used in uh like fifty sixty years ago, there's no comparison, you know, I mean people people who are alive to have born, you know this generation. You you show them a show them an old telephone and will be they'll be puzzled as out how it could work. Uh, you know,
it's it's amazing the advances. You know, just the just one invention, one breakthrough in physics that has caused all that, the the discovery of you know, the semiconductor, and then you know the development of transistors and how they were then kind of miniaturized, miniaturized and used in very creative innovative ways. Is you know what has broad as all these new electronics and then the software that drives them, and you know they development mathematics behind it. I
mean, it's just absolutely unbelievable. But it doesn't stop. You know, It's like it's not like, you know, you can't say, okay, I think everything's been invented now, so let's close the patent office. Which was a rumor that happened around in the late eighteen hundreds that the patent that all anything useful has already been invented, so you know, as well,
may as well close the patent office. And it just keeps on, just keeps on advancing, and all it would take is just you know, just a single breakthrough or a new understanding of physics, and would be uh, it would be it would change society incredibly, I mean, and to think and you know when you when you look in the past and you and you have some kind of idea about what futuristic writers were writing about, like science fiction writers, you know, and you know that they were talking about they
were discussing in their in their fictional books, devices and societies that had these devices, and that those devices now sit on it sitting uh, we carry around in our pocket. You know. It's kind of like you know Star Wars. When you were watching Star Wars in the early days, they didn't have cell phones that you had FaceTime on or anything like that, but they
did. Science fiction saw it. So you know, when you see the advance of science and the and you look at the recent disclosure and exposure of h U A p S or UFOs, you know, the they they are real. They are operating with impunity in our airspace and there's nothing we can do about it. We can't catch them. We can't we can't we can't
replicate what they do. We don't know how they function. They they move at speeds that if a human was sitting behind and you know, operating under normal gravitational principles without without any modification, then you know that would it would they would be destroyed, that they'd be dead. And the craft does break
a power too. So and but you see these craft they move off at these speeds and no afterburners, you know, like we have jets move very fast, we have to burn as you know, belching fire at the back, nothing like that. They just they just zip off very quickly. But there is that. And when you look at how something operates and you don't know how it operates, uh, And you you think of a society that has had we've had to say, two hundred years of or you know,
just over one hundred years of really rapid technological development. But if they if you if you increase that timeline from the Industrial Revolution and go forward five hundred years, you know, what what will our society look like in five hundred years? You know, maybe we'll get an understanding of how those UAPs do operate in the atosphere. Well, I'm of the belief that they're gonna one of these days land their craft and come out and say, hey, welcome
to the Society of Planets. Yeah, well, you just never know, you know, And it's all about you know, we're operating at a particular frequency, and like tonega radio. Well you you know on television you have to tune it to a particular frequency in order to be able to to be able to receive information within that frequency. Mm hmm. Okay, So I want to I mean, I I don't want to ask you what because everyone probably asks you this, and I know I've been in some conferences and people
go, how old is the Great Pyramid? Well, no one knows. Who in the hell knows? Right, We have some stories of Howard weiss uh telling us that the Cufu cartouche's here, and and that's been shown to be fake. We just don't know. Egyptologists don't seem to. They can't think outside of the box and look at the technology, even in the face of your work and other scientists, which makes it really a challenge when you
date these these edifices that are perhaps tens of thousands of years old. But I mean, I don't want to get into that because we don't know. So let's talk about the book. No, I mean, you touched on something. I'm interested. If you want to talk about it, I don't want. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think it's important to be able to. I wouldn't talk to I wouldn't say real broadly. I won't tell you broadly. All Egyptologists are think the same way.
And you know, I think they have they have their they have their their script, their curriculum, and you know that's what they teach and stuff like that. But I do know that I mean Egyptian Egyptologists, a lot of them are very open to revising their history in line with what they're learning through
lust technologies and and there is They're very receptive. And some of them are, you know, saying, well, the tomb theory is a dead theory, and and you know, the there's there's a great deal of positive movements in Egypt. Two seriously apply art sciences in understanding their structures. So and also you know they're they're Egyptologists are and I'm particularly engineers too. There is
a there An engineer wrote the ForWord for my new book. His name is Ahmed Adli, and his works has become very popular in the Arabic speaking world, not just in Egypt. But all over all over the Arabic speaking world he's become extremely popular. Not familiar with him, I mean, you mentioned in your book quite a bit. Is he taking more of an engineering reverse engineering look at these phenomenon or is he just saying be more open. He
actually he took up the challenge. You know, I laid down that challenge and Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt, and I challenged the Egyptian engineers to examine that they artifacts for themselves. Don't take my word for it, just go out there and check them out for yourself. So he did, and uh, and he created a series of YouTube videos and he has a YouTube channel which is Ahmed Adli YouTube channel. They're in Arabic. They really should be
in English. Hopefully someday that will happen. But yeah, I mean he's he has created some fantastic videos and he's fully supportive. He did. He went into the Serapem and took his own measurements and came about saying, oh yeah, Chris, Chris was right, you know when he described the boxes in the serrapea as he jump in the box like you did and measure the the angle he used, he used a he used a laser distance measurer and
UH and the additionally digital square, both made by bot. So they were they weren't They were not the exact instruments that I used, but still you know, reflective of our technologies and how we measure things today. And so he came up and he said, well, yeah, and now he's he's sharing this with with people in Egypt, and you know, all around the Arabic speaking world, and everybody's talking about the Great Pyramid now as a machine
rather than as a tomb. Not everybody, but a lot of a lot of professionally trained people, even physicists in Egypt are promoting the power plant theory now. So well, it's interesting because if you and you wrote about Flanders Peatrie quite a bit. He I mean, he's the father of Egyptology. He recognized in the eighteen hundreds that there was something fishy about the stone cutting and the holes board into stone, and and he's almost ah a guide for
uncovering and opening to the possibilities of technology and advanced engineering. So and he's kind of I mean, he he opened the door to me to the whole the whole subject of manufacturing and machining and and you know, it was accessing his book that that that was there was. There were like two parts to my my research. One is how how something is made, and then the other part is what was it, what was it made for? So in terms of you know, the theory about the Great Pyramids being being a power
plant and not a tune, that's one part of it. But then the other aspect to it is the the precision manufacturing that went into building it and and how that was done. So it's a it's a very it's almost irrefutable. Even though there have been very weak attempts to discredit it there, it does not. They do not persuade or dissuade professional engineers and technicians from it.
So I would say that Amma adli Is is the future. I mean in terms of this this work being continuing on into the future, he is the future and some other people, you know, I mean before before I move on, you can't date stone with carbon dating. But is there a way to date these pyramids that it is out there right now? Or does it? There has to be another kind of invention made that can date uh man made or man formed stone right the UH. I know that the the
period of time when the pyramids were built. That's important to a lot of people. I have my The task I set myself was not to not to answer the question of who built the Great Pyramid, of when the great Pyramids were built, but why and how and so, and that is still my position and basically my my policy right now is to say, if if history is going to be rewritten, then it's the Egyptians that should write it and
decide what story they're going to tell, you know. And basically because they had a history before the before Westerners the Europeans came into Egypt and and started to study their monuments, they had their own history which was basically ignored. Uh. But they but now they are looking at the possibility of the the culture existing there, if even before the dynastic Egyptians. And you know,
so that that is not my that is not my my area. I'm very interested my I've always said that if if they determined that it was built forty five hundred years ago, that's I have no problem. I don't take any issue with that. Uh, you know. The only the only assertions I make is the that the tools that they used to build it did not exist
in the in the Dynastic Egyptians toolbox. So you know, basically there is a lot missing from any period of time that you might say the Great Pyramid was built, because some of the artifacts that you find would be impossible to make with the tools that uh. Before we move on, there is obviously the Giza Pyramids three and then three later built, and then there's the Red
and the Bent Pyramid, which I've had a chance to see. The Bent Pyramid has a great deal of precision in the stone outer casing, although they're in dis pair right now, are exquisitely cut the interior. I don't know if you had a chance to go into binside the bit, I'm sure you did. I did not go in. I have not gone in the Bent
Pyramid. I've been in the Red Pyramid, but it's small. It's a small version of the Grand Gallery. Yeah, it has a lot of the features, but it seems like they have the same level of precision and engineering and construction that the Great Pyramid has any sense at all As to the purpose of having so many pyramids so close together, well, I think, as I write in my book, that the the site where these pyramids are located
is definitely intentional if you consider the proposed use for them. And so when you have a in my book, I refer to the work of Freedom and Freud and his discovery of the physics behind earthquake lights and uh and so basically he's his he proposes that obviously, and we know this that the Earth contains
massive, massive amounts of electricity and the the lithosphere. The igneous rock has a what they called peroxy defects in the in the rock contain powerive electronic charge carriers which when stimulated or caused to put under pressure, they will shoot to the surface. Uh. He did. He's demonstrated this in the lab and it's also been replicated by a team in Japan. But essentially, when you put pressure on igneous rock, granite or basalt uh gabro Diarte and other igneous
rock, then you release electrons positive whole electrons. And this is the physics of it. And he's he says that you know, in the we're actually on top of a giant battery. I mean, the potential there is great. And so you know what, my my whole, my whole focus now is not so much rewriting history but rewriting or rewriting the future, you know, yeah, reverse engineering, reverse engineering, and to be able to solve
some of our problems today. I mean, if if there are if there is a source of electrons under our feet, and they are easily accessed, accessible in some areas of the planet, I mean, and there are, I mean, you have areas in the United States that are quite active with earthquake earthquake lights, like Marfa, Texas. You know, they they have
these earthquake lights where you see a lot of activity. Now, if the process is that you drive vibration into pressure, or you cause oscillations in this in in the in the igneous rock, and then the in turn the igneous rock, the electrons in the ignist rock will shoot to the surface of the
earth, then you should be able to tap into that. So that's the whole concept that you know, instead of instead of digging up coal and burning coal to boil water create steam and you know, turn these massive turbines and then harness the electrons from these generators that we harness electrons from underneath our feet. Right, We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today Chris Dunn
discussing his new book, Tesla The Gizer Connection. We'll be right back. Chris don has authored a new book called Tesla the Giza Connection, which takes a deeper look at some of the functionality of the great pyramid known as the Cufu Pyramid on the Giza Plateau in Egypt. Let's talk about Friedman Freud. This is the fundamentals of your book. And you, I guess you discovered his work when he's a NASA scientist. Was he publishing white paper on his
discovery or what I mean? You can find in my book. You can find in the bibliography you will find many references to his papers, pair reviewed and well sourced. Also, there is a there is an appendix in my book which is the transcripts of a presentation he gave in christ Church, New Zealand in twenty sixteen on his discovery, and he called it the new physics,
and it's exciting, it's new. It hoped that the seismologists would adopt it in their earthquake detection because these early warning systems early warning system because basically what he had found was that you know when when there is an earthquake, there are there is a release of these electrons prior to enduring and even after
the earthquake. So and he relates one particular earthquake in Italy at Laqua Laquila, where the NASA satellites were picking up this activity earthquake lights ten days or a week or so before the earthquake actually hit, and that if if they could use that as an early warning system, then perhaps they could save more lives, saved more lives and property. But the but I don't think that that has been adopted by seismologists yet. You know, who knows what's going
to happen next week. But I saw it and I was like, well, this answers this answers a a question. Or it was actually a more of a an argument against the Gezer power plant theory because in the Geza power plant I had identified piezo electricity as as being you know what, the the mechanism for creating electron flow, and the and the granite in the King's chamber and around the King's chamber was the source of the the piezo electric electron flow
that was cast into doubt because of numerous factors. One was the the orientation of of the of the silicon quartz crystal would be random and and crystal has to be stressed across a particular axis in order for the electrons to flow. So the put would with piece of electricity, it would not be that great. And then in twenty eighteen there was a group of people. I did a tour in twenty eighteen and it drew some very talented professionals. One was
a geologist. He had forty years in the field. Really great guy guy. His name was Adrian Longen, an English fellow. Lived in Australia for many years but is now in China. I think working in the coal mines. But he's not he's not digging. I think he owns it. But the but is a great guy. And he he said, well, you
know this this Aswan granted, he had an easy way about him. And when we went around the Aswan quarries, he's looking at the granite, you know, and he's testing it and he picks up peace and he licks it, so you know, he's and I was like, well, that's interesting, you know, that's really getting into your work. The never thought I never thought about that myself. But the anyway, so he said that the percentage of courts which I had read and which I had repeated in my book,
was fifty five percent silicon quartz crystal. His opinion was that it's maybe not even twenty percent, and so it's it's kind of like he didn't think that the silicon quartz crystal was was that much in it. Well, that kind of that kind of killed the piece of electric theory. Even more so, my good friend Robert Water, who was a guy, you know,
sound engineer and also an anthropologist. He was he was a real student of ancient Egypt, but he had but he'd also done some sound test in the in the dashour pyramids, in the red and the bent, you know, and created some music based on the frequencies that he that he learned and that
that he had gathered in there. But anyway, so after our tour in twenty eighteen, he was on the web of doing some research and came across for Freedom and Freud and and started to look at his work and shared it with me, and I was like, well, this looks like that answers all those questions. And it turns out that even freedoman and I met him in twenty twenty one, I was just going to ask you if you had
met him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went out there. He has an office at SETI and so that's where you know, the Carl Sagan started that group. But he has an office there, and Bob and I went and had a meeting with him. He was a wonderful, wonderful man. Is he open to your ideas about applications on the bit A great pyramid? His eyes were his eyes got really big, but I talk. Yeah, yeah, his eyes got really big. I mean, he was a he was a great guy. And you know, he certainly didn't dismiss it
at all. And I think, well he had he had a like a think tank group that had been formed and of profit. It's called the Geocosmo group, and you know, they were they were comprised of scientists from different parts of the world, locally and overseas. There was somebody from Japan, somebody from Germany, I think, And then he invited above Vater to join the group. And so we had we had an end on all this, well not all of it, because there is some confidential stuff that they were
working on. But yeah, so that's how that's how Freedoman came came onto my radar. Okay, so let's talk about this new tech, this uh electron harvesting technology. How does the Great Pyramid develop energy? What? What? What do you theorize is the system in operation to produce electricity? Well, yes, the uh of course, the that the pyramid receives the electrons,
the electrons passed through it. I mean there have been you know, anecdotally, you have stories of observations in the past of there being some kind of electricit electrical phenomenon that's going on around the Great Way. I'm gonna stop you real quick. Doesn't Doesn't the Great Pyramids sit on a lay line of something or a geomagnetic anomaly that produces telluric energy. I mean, I've been in it set in the King's Chamber and I could feel tactically a vibration in
that room. But I'm just curious about what you're thinking on that. I think that has that has been theorized that. Okay, It's definitely considered to be a power place on the planet where where the energy is high and I and I think that is because of the of the the ease on the release of electrons from the lithosphere that that move through the bedrock. The As far as it being on a lay line, I haven't. I don't. I haven't studied lay lines, So you know, you may have more information on
that than I do. I generally I I I've stayed away from from that that particular subject. I've just been focused on the mechanics of it. And and so as far as how it functioned. It in the Giza power Plant, I proposed that there was vibration set up in the subterranean chamber that was driving vibrations into the earth as well as into the pyramid itself, and that
is what was activating the release of the electrons. Also that it explains the function of the Grand Gallery and the harnessing of vibration in the Grand Gallery through resonators which focused into the King's Chamber. And so there's a lot of a lot of the information. That information is in the Giza power Plant, and
much of it has not changed that much. And in fact, there has been evidence that has come to light since the publication of the Geza Powerplant that shows that one of the theories that I proposed in it in the Giza Powerplant was that there was an explosion inside the King's Chamber in prehistory, which essentially, you know, damaged the whole the whole system, and brought it to
brought it to stop. The explosion rushed out into fire. The fire rushed out into the Grand Gallery and burned up some of these resonators that were located in the slots along the length of the gallery. And in two thousand and one, when I went into the Great Pyramid, I noticed they had just finished cleaning the inside, and I noticed that on the ceiling there were these scorch marks in the in the location where the resonated frame would actually meet directly
above the slots. So yeah, and you actually show in your in your book, you illustrate it. Uh, there would be just rows of these all the way up the gallery right right right, yeah, right, So that was a confirmation of that particular theory. And you know that. So there's there's quite quite a lot that has been is new in uh in the new book. Uh uh the exploration in the Queen's Chamber. I mean it's
it is a multi faceted system. I mean, you don't just have you know, you have different subsystems within within the Great Pyramid, in the in the sub chamb where you have the initiating pulse driving into the earth and the and into the pyramid. In the queen's chamber you have a chemical reaction for creating hydrogen, and then in the King's chamber you have the elevation the energy pulls energy pumped up the hydrogen to a higher energy state, and then the
introduction of microwaves from the outside. So was the theory that this energy was pushed up into the atmosphere and then collected somewhat somehow on the ground to be used in devices and perhaps machinery or some type. Well, I think yes, I mean there is a source for source for the energy you could tap into it, because it's not just it's not just traveling through the shafts,
just to microwaze of traveling through the shafts. And that's pretty much what I what I had singled out in the Geezer power plant without consideration to the electricity
flowing through the limestone and into the atmosphere. But in this book I recognized that, particularly with the new work from Freedom and Fraud, So I recognize that to be the another source of this energy that could have been tapped tapped on the outside of the pyramid with attachment points to the limestone, right, And so I put something in there that is rather probably going to create a bit of controversy, but it's it's not new. It's not new for me
to create controversy. No, you've been please, you've been doing it for decades. I bring up the distribution point because obviously your books called the Tesla connection, and I've studied the Wardencliffe Tower. Intimately we don't have an idea of what Tesla was thinking in terms of of of the mechanics. We have a fair idea, but not a detailed idea because I think the plans were
lost. But one of the things that it's critical in this tower is that the energy comes out and is distributed in the atmosphere and is able to power aircraft, vehicles, boats, everything. Uh through, I guess you're you're you're you're saying that the pyramid had the same function? Is that my? Is that my? Is that correct? That's what I'm proposing is that there are two there are two technologies that Tesla originated that I see were functioning with
with the pyramid. Now, one was the earthquake machine that he had, and that was where he had a electro mechanical device that would drive vibrations into a structure and bring them you know, if it's time to the natural frequency of that structure, it would cause sufficient oscillations that if you didn't control that, you could actually destroy the structure to bring it down. So that's his earthquake machine. The other one was the Warden Cliff tower that you referred to.
And and so the the answer to that and how how I applied it in the book is that I proposed that perhaps if you put a dome a structure over the Great Pyramid, attaching it to the top of the pyramid, and also you have attachment attachment points around around the structure. You could have like some kind of a geod geodesic dome framework or something like that, that then you would have the means to radiate the electrons that are coming up through
the earth out into the atmosphere, as Tesla proposed. Now, as far as the mechanisms or the devices that you would provide the population with to tap into that energy, or you know, say if you are elon Musk or a car manufact who who wants to be assured that his electric vehicles are gotten
to receive sufficient a sufficient amount of electricity. Yeah, I mean then you would create a device I would think you were you would create a car that wouldn't need a battery but could just collect the collect the energy from the atmosphere rather than you know, having to go to a charge point. And then
you're getting closer to the the UAPs that we see. Well, I want you to speculate on how this distribution of electrons which is electricity was used in Egypt because we had posters from Tesla's Warrencliffe Tower promotion where he's got flying vehicles and boats and cars and I think he even has what looks like a handheld radio wave device or radio, which is blows my mind because that poster was made in nineteen twenty two. Right, right, how do you theorize,
Chris, that the Egyptians were distributing the energy? And because that's always been a question, even from the Giza power Plant book, I think even you are like, question, well, we're not sure how the energy flew flowed from the Great Pyramid into a mechanical device or home or whatever. Right, Well, you know my answers to that, I mean, you know,
I'm compared to test where I'm a mental midget. So you know, whatever he whatever vision he had, I'm sure that if they'd have been had received the funding and been allowed to pursue it, he would have come up with something remarkable. But the you know, I can't match his his vision on that. I can just look I look backwards, and I can say, well, I think, you know, if we at least tried to to do something along the lines of Tesla what he proposed, because you know,
the wireless distribution of energy is it's lasts like the Holy Grail. Right, Well, it's free energy and we're going to talk about that in a minute. Free energy is like the ultimately doubt without pollutants. Oh, I think we could. We could put a meter on it, you know. I mean there's no such thing as free. I mean, it's going to do something, right, I mean, it's free as long as it's in the ground. It's actually getting to the device that costs money. Right, everybody's
going to make money. We're not in a free society. Uh yeah, let's talk about that real quickly. You actually came up came up with some numbers if we were to build a electron harvester. I think you said something like six billion dollars or some unguidly amount of money to build one of these things. Uh. Ell, actually, I gotta no. I got a I got a quote from a guy who who he's an estimator for modern power plants, and how much, how much it's probably going to be more,
how much to budget for a modern power plant? And his uh, he came up with the number twenty five billion. Oh wait a minute, How did it was that in the book? Yeah, yeah, I must have missed that. I must have missed that in chapter nine of the book that I think. I was shocked when you were starting to talk about building a harvester, and I was I was looking at you were comparing it to modern modern nuclear plans, and then you were guessing, guessing, guessing, and
I must have skipped over that paragraph five billion. Yeah, I mean no, really, the whole thing this is, this is interesting. The whole thing that developed, how that chapter developed, was that I was asked a
question in Egypt. I never thought I would hear from an Egyptian official, and and I met Haini Halal, who is a He was the Minister of Education and Higher Education and science and now he's involved in in the Pyramid, the Scamp Pyramid Project, And so I presented him with my book, The Geezer Power Plan, and I explained what it was and how I thought it worked, and he asked me a question. He said, well, do you think you could get the Great Pyramid to run again? Did you give
a number? No, I didn't know. I was flabbergasted, and I was like, well, I'd have to think about that, because, you know, one of the things that I'd always thought was that that would be an almost impossible task for anybody. You know, first of all, you have the politics involved, and you have, you know, the huge amounts of money getting the right people. And I'd always thought that building from scratch would probably be the best thing. You know, Yeah, but you're missing
so many parts in the interior of that thing. You don't know how the mechanisms got it. It's got it, Yeah, I mean, first of all, you would you would need to do a hell of a lot more research than I've done in terms of understanding all the features, understanding you know. Okay, so I propose that the the Grand Gallery is an acoustical device,
it's almost like a musical instrument. Well, then you would you would be paying quite a lot of money to have these acoustic engineers model the interior of the Great Pyramid and and to see, you know, just just just what happens when you introduce this particular element to this particular element. I mean, there's a lot a lot going on that that is not understood, so you know, and that would it may take years, I mean even to come up with a come up with a an agreement. It's a worthwhile thing
to pursue, you know. I mean consider this though, clifflet My book was published in nineteen ninety eight, and here we are twenty five years later and twenty six years later, and they're asking questions and we're asking questions that I was asking twenty six years ago. So you know, another twenty five years, where will we be I don't know and who what entity would actually
take that on. I don't think the Egyptian government's going to touch that because there's only the guestimate is like ten or twelve percent of the known ruins have been excavated. There's a number of other pyramids, buildings, statuary artifacts that are hopefully going to be uncovered soon that we'll continue to shed light on the
narrative about these amazing the amazing pre dynastic people right now. But I think, you know, for the future, if you're going to explore this in the future, then you don't have to go straight to a great pyramid. You could start with a small pyramid. Yeah. And uh and actually, you know, prove the concept of drawing electrons out of the lithosphere and being able to distribute them. Uh, there's usable electricity. So that is a
that would be basically, you know, pretty basic. And I wouldn't say simple, but certainly I think a required step towards building a great pyramid if that's where you end up. But I'm sure at this point that would be where you end up. We're going to take another commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today,
Chris Dunn, speaking on his new book Tesla The Giza Connection. My guest today is Chris Dun, who has been studying the Great Giza Pyramid also known as the Cufu Pyramid on the Giza Plateau for over twenty five years and has made some major inroads into the actual function of the pyramid and how the ancients may have used it before we move on, has anyone collaborated with you or
acknowledge your theory on electron harvester for the pyramid? In other words, you know this book has just come out, right, you must have consulted with others about your theory. Yeah, this this book is definitely you know, it didn't spring out of my mind alone. Had I relied on a lot of people gathering information, uh for it. And and so you know Bob Vauter, who actually passed last September, he was very helpful in it.
A friend of mine, Eric Wilson, who's an engineer aerospace engineer with Rolls Royce. He is another person who has been extremely helpful and I think actually contributed an appendix for the book. Freedoman Freund is a gem. I mean, he's just an amazing guest. It's so great that he didn't say he didn't say, you know, you're crazy done. Yeah, I don't know what the hell you're talking about? Well, why would anybody say that?
But I mean it's like you're showing him your specs, I would think, and then describing what you believe was the functionality of this great edifice the right and you know the question the question is always to me, the people who built it, I wanted to get some return on their investment, you know, And what was that return? Yeah? Uh obviously, I mean obviously, but to me, it was you put a lot of energy into doing something, you get some benefit from it. Yeah, let me ask you
a quick question. Then I want to move on because our time is coming to an end. Is there any uh? And you may have answered this, but I'm going to ask it again. Is there any way to collect the residue discharge the electron harvesting energy in any kind of artifact that you've seen. I don't know what that would be. I'm just throwing this out. You got a machine, you got the great pyramid pumping out energy? We
yeah? Well yeah, how was it collected? Yeah? Well, I mean is there something that you've seen in the museum, because there's a lot of anomalies in these museums, especially in a car. Yes. Yeah, one of these devices may have been in some kind of either handheld or a
device that was a collector. What do you say? Yeah, the there has there has been some recent research on the obelists and they are now all right being seen as part of part of the system I think there's going to be a white paper that's going to be published shortly about that, I'm not sure when, or a technical paper anyway on the fraud effect and the and and the obelists, particularly the fallen obelisk that a Karnac which is not fallen
anymore. They studied up but the so that's one. But I mean, in terms of, you know, the mode of mind we think of, okay, well, where are the toasts where the toaster ovens? You know, and they're looking for they're looking for things that they can relate to and that they don't exist, you know. But it's almost it's almost an impossible question a question Chris, because it might be so far out that we would probably look at it and go, what the hell is that? You know?
I mean, right, I mean, you know, and that's where you that's where you come down to examining the means of the demise of that civilization in terms of cataclysmic changes to the earth, whether that whether those forces that caused those changes came from the outside or the inside. Right, by all accounts, it's more likely that they were introduced from the outside. So, you know, when you have a civilization there's they brought to his knees
and the whole earth is in upheaval. What survives that? That's true? Yeah, and who knows the loss of life? The guesses at eighty to eighty five percent. So the book is i'd say seventy five percent focused on this electron harvesting technology. But thankfully you left a little bit of space in the towards the end on this Egyptian's base scanning project, which I was happy to see because I know Adam Young well, he was on the Earth Agents
for a number of years. Yeah, and he showed me pictures of some of his collection, which is outstanding. But I'd like you to talk a little bit about what this what our latest scanning technology has uncovered with the scans of some of these vases and plates or whatever you were I think it was a vase that you were scanning when one of Adams vases. Yeah, actually, this phase right here, that's that. That is a three D print. I was gonna say, that's a that's a that's a print of the
original. Right, that's a three D print of the original. That is two scale. But I didn't know it was that small. I always think it's a much bigger But anyhow, so what did you want? You like, you going through the car Museum and you see all these this wonderful stonework.
I mean, I've modeled at the stone work in the in the Car of Museum and it has always been a dream of mine to be able to get a hold of one of those phases and subject it to some inspection, you know, traditional type inspection, and that could be you know, just getting a pair of micrometers and measuring the the precision of the diameters and you know, comparing one diameter to another, and you know, various checks that
you do. Well, you know, it was impossible because you know, there are times when I went into the Cairo Museum and you can even take a photograph in there. Let alone, you know, grab one of those phases and do it, do a mic check on it, and so I so, you know, as I observed, I think I wrote about them in the Geese Parkland, proposing some means of how they may have been able
to hollow out the inside. And then Adam was on our tour in Egypt in twenty eighteen, and my son Alex was on the tour too, and then Alice and Adam became friends and they and they conspired, I would say inspired, but they came up with the alis, you know, said well
we should you should scan those. Because he was into he had joined the metrology lab at the company that I worked, and then he got a job at a a military contractor in Indianapolis, and so they set up an event at the lab in Indianapolis where they put the vase on a rotary table and and put an indicator on it run it around. I was there. I mean, I was not the lead on any of this. You know.
The only I may have had an influence is because of what I had written about advanced machining in ancient Egypt. But I certainly did not push your encourage, you know, I observed, and I was always a little skeptical in a way because I knew that there would be some pushback and some questions about the providence of the vase, the vases that were that were being inspected.
So anyway, that's Eventually I think Adam got the vase scanned at Capture three D in Connecticut and the Alex who had a colleague named Nick Sierra, who was a Purdue graduate engineer. They were working at Applied Composites, and he got nick interested in it, and they took the scandata, which you know basically is just a point cloud, right, the millions of points that are gathered from the surface, and then created an STL file. That STL file
was then that they could model it in the computer. And so Alex says, well nothing. You know, this process took a few years, and I you know, I was just interested and you know, kind of like an observer. And and then Alex said, well, we need to we need to push this out and to the universe and uh and let engineers around the world have access to the st L file so they could do their own uh examination of the of the data and and uh so he he thought he
was he admired Ben uh van kirk quick and he's uncharted X channel. He thought he it would be a good place for for him to Well that's why I saw you. I saw it on Ben's uh I'm chart X video in this in the in the lab, you know, doing the measurements and everything, and you know your mother, I think you're there. Well yes, then yes, the uh so the st L file was was released and U and then a cryptologist and mathematician based in Spain. His name was Mark Vist.
He got fascinated with it and did his own analysis of it and wrote wrote a paper on it, which you know. He his conclusion was that they had to have modeled this in a computer because of the mathematical formulas that
were evident in the sdlphile. To him, that was way over my head, right, yeah, But Chris, that's the same kind of theory that you had when you were analyzing the Ramsey to sculptures at Karnak, because those things are so precise and cut with this level of precision that they must have
been computer guided. Well, yeah, I can't think. I mean, I would love for somebody to come up and say, okay, no, this could have been done using a you know, like a pantograph machine or you know, some kind of mirroring where you have a stick and a pointer, but the thing is no precise and you've got these three dimensional curves.
But I was just comparing a two dimensional photograph of a three dimensional object and trying to come up with some basic information about the symmetry between one side and the other. And I thought that that was remarkable enough that that that this head should be scanned and subject to the same kind the same kind of examination, so that you would know not just on a from a two dimensional perspective, but a three dimensional perspective, where every point on the surface related to
from one side to the other. So it's not that you know, you're just comparing the outline from one side to the other, but you're comparing a point here, a point yea here all over to see if there is symmetry between the two and that has not been done yet. I would like to see it done. We'll see if it But I think my point though, is that what your son Alex and Adam and that team did on this vase is perhaps take it to the level that you're talking about for the vase,
but you wish you would they would apply that to the sculpture. But what I'm saying, what I guess I'm I'm referring to, is that this vase did go to the next level. I'm curious as to what was found in the analysis. Well, they they took the first day was done with white
light structured light scanning, so it's white light blue light scanning. Then it had a CT scan that's where they use X rays that provides more information, so you have not only information of the outside geometries, but also information on the inside geometries. I it takes hundreds of hours two to analyze some of this stuff right properly. And I think that Mark Veston he had an associate who was working with him and they spent a lot of time doing the analysis.
And you know this when you have a full time job, there's only so much time that you can devote to this. But the other part of it was it was like this when you think about a computer model. You holding information in a file on a jump drive or on a computer, and you have to have software in order to understand it and analyze it. And not everybody has has is it has that at that hand, they don't understand
it, they haven't worked with it. It's arcane to them. And so my only input to the group was that it would be a good idea here if we could set up and and do just a regular old fashioned traditional inspection in an inspection lab using mechanical gauges and to see, you know, just to see how how concentric they were, how they relate to each other. So in other words, well you have okay, so that this point right here, ah could be round, but is it of the same is it?
How is it related to this point here? How is it related to this point here? And also the looks and so, and then what is the datum? How do you fixture it? How do you what datum do you use? So we selected this surface right here right and set it on a roadary table that would spin it. We indicated in the body to within the precision of the body, which was within about one thousands of an inch.
And then we put indicators at this point, uh, this point, and this point, and then also put an indicator that would sweep the lugs as it as it came around. And we were only getting like two thousands of variations between those points. Two thousands of an inch. Yeah, the thickness of a human air. Wow. And then I had these these thickness gauges that we use in aerospace to check bores. Right, the thick wall thicknesses and the wall thinckness on these vases was within one thousands of an inch
in some cases. Looks it's amazing, It was amazing. It was threw my mind. Was there any idea as to what was the cutting instrument? Well, you know, when you consider all the tools that are available to us today conventional machining and lay turning, you would use a single point tool, right depending on the hardness of the material. So you think of when you think of round objects, you think of a laid In this particular case,
you have these lugs. That presents a bit of a problem because well, I'll interrupt, I've never been able to figure out the lugs how the hell they eat? Yeah, So basically what you have is you have an object that you're trying to machine and you have to allow for these lugs right here, the lugs when you put an indicator on the lugs, they are also concentric with the body. So these lugs would have been crafted on you
know, the set on the same axis, central axis. But then you have to cut away between the lugs to relieve them, right cause that relief interesting. Now, what tools do you use? Do you You can't use, I mean a single point on granite the the you know, the best
tool to use to actually create this would be a grinding wheel. And uh, and then when you're talking about this part right here, I mean today we have some very incredibly sophisticated machinery that you could You could you could fixture this in in one of those machines and do all of that work at the same time. Right now, the question is how do the ancient Egyptians do? Yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, actually, you know,
our mother machines would probably be created a little more precise. It would be you know, it would be less than a thousands of an engine run out. It's great that you had a model made. It kind of makes you think about well, I was thinking that you might want to run in that direction. So I that's one of my favorite things. Christine. The books called Giza, The Tesla Connection, Acoustical Science, and the Harvesting of Clean Energy. This book just came out. I think it came out October of
last year, and you can get it on Amazon. Actually, you know it's came out in January and Amazon. Wait a minute, it came out this year, didn't it. Yeah? Amazon started ship in it today. Oh my god, Okay, I'm off. You know. I think. I think what they do is they published it early, and I think when I was thinking August October, it was pre sales in October. But yeah, get the book and tell what's today today is the last day of them. Well, no, one more day. We're at the end of January,
so they're just starting to sell it. Fantastic, So there you go. Yeah, it's got a lot of good material on it. And how do you feel as it's being sold now? You are you happy with the results? Oh? You know, I can't. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the people who have contributed to my to this book. I mean it's like I could have I kind of done it without without them amazing amazing people. Uh. Like I said, you know, Tesla, I'm
a mental migic compared compared to Tesla. Also some of the people that I've worked with who have helped me, I'm a mental midgic compared with them. But Jesus no, you're a path the path leader. You are so a trail leader on all this. Look even got Graham Hancock to say something, come on now, it was Yeah, he made some he made very nice comments on it. Yeah. But indeed, uh that also I would say
that the publisher uh did an amazing job there. Editorial team were so so helpful, not just a matter of you know, fixing my commas and uh and hanging participles or whatever they they were. They were they were awesome. Auditions are great. Yeah great. Let me just ask you this. We're into the new year. Are you going to be available to uh talk at any conferences? Are you scheduled to speak anywhere on this work? No, I'm not. I have I'm kind of taking a break right now. So
I'm trying to get all of these health issues okay, sure resolved. And you know, then then did you ever launch a YouTube channel? You know, Cliff, I thought about that for a period of time and and then I I examined, you know, what I would have to do. I've got more information on what I would have to do to do it, and I decided not to. Okay, I don't need to. I mean about guys like you and Ben, you know. I mean, well, your your mug's going to be all over the world on my show, but you
got Ben's uncharted X. There's like three videos of you. But I think the ones I saw are on this Egyptian based scan project. I think that may be part of one on the book. But uh, we'll get the word out for I know that he came to Danville. I arranged at the company I retired from, and we took over their inspection lab on Sunday and did that inspection so oh excellent. And there was another guy uh an owner of some days. His name is Matt Bell. He's from Sarasota, and
he brought some of his vases up and we inspected them. So everybody had a great time. I want to mention this real quickly, and the I'm going to let you go. The story goes that there were sixty thousand of these amazing vases, plates and other I guess is kitchen where if you want to call it that at Sakara. And you know Adam Young got his years ago when you could pay a few thousand dollars for a vase, right, I've seen him now for as much as ten to twenty grand. Really you
can still buy him. Yeah, And I was there last year. We go with Mohammad and I got a lip from an egypt college. I paid fifty bucks for it. But it's it's I got a lip and then I got half of a little bull and the damn things machine beautifully. There's no way it's cut by hand. I'll show it to you if I see you next time. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, the value of the
vases. I I don't think we've we've seen the end of of that, because the I mean provenence is a real issue to be contributed to to address, and I think the next step is for the Egyptians to take one of their vases and uh and perform the same inspection checks on them from the Cairo
Museum or any other museum where they may have them. So basically, it's kind of like, I don't know, I don't know, you know, if if this did not come out, I mean, the provenance and the certificates of authentication seemed to be very legitimate, and I would not accuse any of these respected antiquities dealers with selling fake Oh I can imagine the forgery. Yeah, and I can't imagine who would go to the trouble and expense to forge something that that precise. I mean, that's a pretty Hey, Chris,
it was a pleasure speaking with you. Much success on this book. Thank you, sir for your help. I'm sure it will be. Yeah, we'll get the word out and great to have you appreciate it. Good to see. Take care now. So that interview is the beginning of a upcoming series of podcasts with guests who are using everything from electric culture to energy healing techniques and technology that is being used more and more for all types of
different industries. And what's fascinating is that some of this is being discovered randomly. Other people are picking bits and pieces of data up from old texts from working in the so called the CASHUK records, and on and on. And what Chris talks about in developing a electron harvesting generator and the extreme costs, there is also a group that's working on a cheaper version of a big harvester. And this is kind of under the It's not really well known, and
so we'll get bits and pieces of it throughout the year. But what's fascinating and what's very important is that there are slow changes being made into our energy generation, into how we heal, how we manage our daily lives, and more important than any of that is wellness and consciousness. So these are all things to consider in the upcoming podcast. Always great to have Chris on the program again. His book came out just I guess a few weeks ago.
I thought it came out in October, but a few weeks ago and I saw it on Amazon, so you can get it on Amazon or anyplace else that you get your books. Also look on the Earth Ancient's Facebook page for a small gallery of photographs that Chris have sent to me. There's a few from the book obviously if you buy the book. There's as well as a whole area that we didn't even present, which is the unusual sculpture stone bulls.
We talked a little bit about it, but there is a series that we'll be talking about with some other experts that is based on this Egyptian vase
scan. And years ago we had a regular on the program, Adam Young, and Adam Young's part of this, and he has a number of beautiful vases and I think he's got a plate or two as well, And you know, he used to talk about it, and I don't know how long ago he got his vase and his other pieces, but it was at a time I believe when they were fairly reasonable, maybe I don't know, one thousand dollars or under one thousand dollars for a vase, but they have now
become really really desirable for collectors. And as I was mentioning to Chris, i've seen him for his high as ten grand. You can see him occasionally on eBay, but most of them are on Soetherby's or other private auction houses. And my god, they're beautiful. I mentioned you might remember in that interview I mentioned that I had when I was in Egypt last year. I asked Mohammed if he had connections with anybody who had any of these vases left,
and he put me in touch. A couple of days before I left with an archaeologist who was excavating Sakara, and he didn't have a complete bowl or a vase or a plate. He had the half of a little cup that was gorgeous, actually split directly in half, and it is from a stone I think it was quartz, and it was spun on a lath of some kind of beautifully rendered. And then I had the top of a vase. And those are the only two pieces he was able to sell me.
I think I paid fifty bucks or something, so obviously that's a no. No. I don't know what kind of trouble i'd get in if I was to get a whole vase, but I sure like one because they're they're gorgeous, and uh, you know, it's funny because nobody knows how they were cut. I mean, there's a lot of thinking that they were cut with special very hardened blades and knives and things like that, spun on a laithe. We don't know. They may have been cut with lasers, they may
have been cut with the technology we don't know about. But they're gorgeous. So we're gonna we're gonna talk more about those later in the year, so stay tuned for that. But one of the things I am gonna post on the Facebook pages a couple of these vases and a couple of plates, just to give you since And then I think I'll take a picture of the one small bull so you can see how it was cut. It's it's amazing, it's amazing. I can see why the Dynastics kept them as kind of idols
from or sacred pieces from the previous civilization. There's no way in hell they could have cut them, just simply no way. So anyhow, great to have Chris on the program. Hey guess what is coming up? This is almost a last call for our earth ancients grant Egyptian tour. It is April twenty eighth through May eighth. It is all inclusive and I gotta say this, this is probably the last year we can hold the price down. It's
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