Bibhu Dev Misra: Yuga Shift, The Impending Planetary Transformation

Oh my god, March March is here. Can't believe it. What happened in February? What happened on January? You know they always say the older you get, the faster time goes. Why is that you're supposed to be slowing down or older you get. Maybe it's because we perceive we're involved mentally with our cell phones, with social media, with the Internet, with streaming TV, streaming movies. I don't know, personal development. I guess that's

what it is. Things get caught up in your life and it just spends quicker. You got more to do, and more to conceive and more to appreciate. So anyhow, how you doing. Welcome to Earth, ancients, and I hope you're doing well. And today is a big day, very important day. We are introducing a new book from an old friend, Babu Dev Misra, who is coming to us today from India, and he has written an important book on the Yugas. Not only how the system works.

Perhaps its antiquity because it's likely to be tens of thousands of years old when it was conceived, but for us, and especially for me, it provides us an understanding of the previous epoch. The previous civilization on the planet, a sense of who the people were, the civilizations, what their experience was about, and a sense of what they brought forward through the ages to us

today. And we're getting a better sense of this with a lot of Eastern philosophy, a lot of this ancient Hindu Vedic texts that describes the ancient past. I've spoken repeatedly and on many occasions on the Mahabarata, the war for Earth, the et versus alien versus Earthling war. We'll be talking about that today. More importantly, what were the thoughts, feelings, and perceptions of the previous civilizations and what happened to them. That's a big topic today.

And would you believe this new book is called Yoga Shift, The End of the Cali Yuga and the Pending Planetary Transformation. It is the best book on the topic of previous cultures, previous epochs, previous civilizations that I've ever read. We've had Joseph Silbey on the program, who up until now was my favorite author and individual who could speak on the Yugas with any clarity, because it's a huge issue. It deals with four different cycles, the Golden Age

all the way to the Dark Ages. And I'm laughing because right now the Cali Yuga, which is what we're in right now, is considered the heaviest, the darkest, the most problematic period that humans go through. And this is a cycle it's been happening repeatedly for tens of thousands of years. And I'm excited because I have been reading this book now. I've been reading it off and on for about a week, and it's a beautiful explanation that doesn't

just deal with the Hindus. It also deals with the Hope, the dynastic Egyptians, the Chinese, and other cultures who also had ancient systems of cycles where they would, as an example, the hope, you have the four worlds, and you know, one world was destroyed in fire, one's world was destroyed in a flood, one world was destroyed by asteroids, and so forth, and so on, and this goes over, like I said, tens of thousands of years. So what this book does is it sheds light

on this question of who are the ancestors. Was the catastrophe following the Younger Driest approximately nine thousand and five, one hundred years ago so devastating that it completely destroyed evidence of this previous civilization. I believe, and I've talked about what I call the reuse of temples, pyramids, buildings from the earlier civilizations.

I still hold that as a possibility, as a hypothesis. But we're going to hear today about Sachiya yoga, which is the golden age when the sciences were developed around unseen energies and amazing techniques and forms of sacred practice were brought through in the form of yoga, And we're going to talk extensively about

yoga today. Astrology, the unseen vibrational effects of constellations and energies of planets affecting us on a multiple on multiple levels, and UH and the prediction and the predictions that come out of sidereal astrology which is Hindu and some of the traditional astrology that we get from the newspaper from Sometimes we'll go and we'll do a search on the internet for the latest astrological reports. It's a it's kind of fun, you know, it's kind of fun, but it's a real

important science that we need to pay more attention to. That is a a new portion of the show that I am presenting. That's kind of the lead into suggestions of books, and I'll post this occasionally. I'll actually play this occasionally when I have a book that I would like you to consider for your personal library, and that's this is the book. It's Yoga Shift, the end of the Cali Yuga and the impending planetary transformation with Babu dev Misra.

Now, remember Boo's been with us, But Boo's been with us a number of times. He goes all the way back to twenty sixteen when he was talking about the Great Flood. We've had him come on to talk about specific traditions like meditation, yoga. He is our you could call him a correspondent in India. But this is a wonderful book and it's what I call a master book, a master piece book, because it's so easy to read,

it's extremely informative. It has a wonderful opening that is talking about the Yugas cycle, and this is what we'll be talking about today in this interview. But more importantly, there are predictions related to Cali Yuga. There is almost a prophecy having to do with cyclic events. One of these events is Earth and other plants in our cosmos pass through an asteroid field every twenty seven hundred

years, and I wasn't familiar with this. This is going to be coming up today and I'm not going to give away the interview, but you got to hold on to your chair a little bit when we talk about that portion of the the Cali Yuga phase of the Yugas, and it's an ending of a cycle. So we're going to go through a period of time that's going to be very challenging, and it's kind of started right now. We have a lot of challenges here in the United States, we have challenges worldwide.

So this is all information that is valid. And what's also beautiful about this information is that it shows that we need to look at the past and understand what our ancestors did, and we need tools to navigate the past so we have an understanding of what we can expect in the future. The Yugas are the most beneficial tool that we can have to understand where we're going, how our ancestors dealt with various crises, and how to get through and get out

to the next phase, the next Yuga in a few hundred years. So today's program is the Yoga Shift, and my guest is Babu dev Misra. Hey, this is Cliff. We have what is considered by many people one of the best tours of Egypt that we feature each year. It's in spring. This year, it's April twenty eight through May ninth, and it is twelve days of exquisite sites, temples, pyramids and museums that are not just

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of this previous civilization? What kind of Homo sapien sapiens were they? That's a big one. But what relics, what buildings? What artifacts do we have left to us that give us a sense of the previous civilization. We now know that our current science doesn't believe there was an earlier epoch, but there's great evidence for an earlier epoch. Are there systems that we can use

that give us a sense of previous earth cycles? I've talked about the Yugas for a great deal of time, and I've presented a number of different scenarios and guests. And today we have a good friend coming back to us from India. I was just thinking how many times we've had my guest, Baboo dev Misria on the program. It seems like he's been with us since the beginning, and he's always an insightful guest. And today we are talking about a new book that he's just released, and I got to tell you this

book is a must, a must for your librari. It's called Yuga Shift, the End of the Calli Yuga and the Impending Planetary Transformation. And baboo, you did it. You did it. You actually broke through years of article writing and you sat down and this thing must have taken forever. Hold

on did it take you to write? Well? Cliff, The first article that I wrote on the yoga cycle was in twenty twelve when there was so much excitement about the Mayan calendar ending, and then after it, and then after I wrote that article, I thought I don't have anything more to say.

But I was wrong, because I started getting more and more information which not only supported my initial study, but actually threw many more light, much more light on some other aspects of the Yuga cycle theory that I didn't have

the answers to when I wrote that article in twenty twelve. So, I mean, I've been working on it on and off, and finally I got it turning twenty twenty three, and I'm happy that I got it out before twenty twenty five because that's the end date of the Kaliba that I'm talking about in this book. Although I must caution that just because the Caliba ends in twenty twenty five doesn't mean that the world ends in twenty twenty five. It's

just a date in a calendar. It's a long calendar. Of the Yuga cycle itself is a long calendar, and twenty twenty five is the end date of the Kalibo. And after that we basically move into a period of transition, which is what happens after Yuga ends, and that's when the current civilization is replaced by a new one which is kind of guided by a new set of ideologies, set of philosophies, and the old systems and the old structures

and the old philosophy gradually fade away. So this is what happens. When you look back at history as well, we find this graduate, this termination of behave of civilization replaced by a new bab of civilization with different artistic and cultural stance. That's going to happen at the end of the scully as well. So that is one of the main imports of the book. Now, I've been talking about the Yugos for a while. I think we had you on a few years ago to kind of decipher an aspect of the Hugos.

But you bring up a very important aspect and highlight, which is the Maha Barata history of the Earth and talk a little bit about the discovery of the Yugas. Who was the one who presented it to Earth humans as a cyclic pattern of birth and rebirth. Well, you know, we are not really

sure who was the one who first gave this knowledge. It was probably the Seven Sages, because we in India we believe that all the wisdom that is contained in the Bathic scriptures are have been given down to us by the so called seven Sages. And who these seven sages were, Well, I mean, if we look at the evidence, they seem to be extra terristrites. I mean, I don't want to go on by alien bandwagon, you know, just like that. But this is the piece of information that comes to

us from almost egriculture. The Sumerians spoke about the Apkalu or the Seven Sages. The Aboriginal Australians they talk about the one genus who came down from the stars of the Milky Way. And even in India we say that the seven Sages they came to us from the stars of the Great Bear constellation, which is the arsa major constellation, and after they came down to the Earth.

And all of these traditions agree that after they came down to this earth, they passed on a lot of wisdom to us, all the knowledge that we had, whether it's astronomy or mathematics or construction. They gave us all this knowledge. But they didn't go back to the stars. They went underground in the subterranean akiphers, which the Mesopotamians used to call apsu. So the sages came out of the apsu through the rivers or through the oceans, and they

were depicted in very strange forms. They were depicted in the form of fish human hybrids or you know, human eagle hybrids. They were not normal human beans. They were hybrid kind of beads. So when you look at all of that, it just doesn't seem like they're normal humans. They just seem

to be aliens. Yeah, do you guys are broken into four PsyS And there was twenty six eight hundred years perah twenty five thousand per cycle, and I want to I mean, you don't talk about this, but I'm going to ask you this anyhow, it seems like whoever mastered and developed the Yugas understood the human condition, understood physiology, understood the rise in the fall of intelligence, and if it was an et race, these are our our fathers, our ancestors. These are the ones who created us, right, and

so talk a little bit about that. So this cycle is something that has been going on for god knows how long. I mean, it's probably been going on for millions and millions of years. And we as humans, our lifespan is so small that we don't even live through a fraction of this whole cycle. Then if their test cycle is twenty five thousand, eight hundred years, then when we are in the Caliga, for instance, right now, it's impossible for us to know how things were let's say, twelve thousand years

ago. But it's only beings who live for an entire cycle, or maybe who live for two or three cycles, or maybe multiple cycles. People know, beans with long lifetimes, lifespans, they're the ones who can tell us about the cycle. For us humans is very difficult to know about the decline in our consciousness, our decline in our physical structures, and all the things that happening course of the Yuga cycle. It's difficult for humans to figure it

out by themselves. So it is knowledge that was given to us by beings who have lived through many, many such cycles. I knew about it, and in my book what I have shown is that this cycle is actually regulated by the agial cycle of the central black hole of the galaxy. See. What happens is that every a lot of galaxies which are called seafood galaxies, there black hole suddenly becomes extremely luminous, and the nucleus becomes like a second

sun. It becomes so luminous that it overshadows the light from the rest of the galaxy by factor of four or five times. That's how bright it becomes. And then it again dies down again. The black hole goes into a kind of quiet stage, and then the light comes down. What I've shown in my book is that it is this sudden outburst of light from the galactic

center which causes this ascending cycle. When our consciousness is continues to increasing, of our physical sizes are increasing, and even our lifespans are increasing, and then when this light shuts off, that's when we go into the descending cycle. Well, that's when our conscient and that's when our consciousness and our physical structure are perennial volume. And this is not talked about in mainstream media a

lot, but it's there in journals, a lot of journals. Mainstream academic studies have shown that our cranial volumes are shrunk by nearly ten person over the last three one thousand years, and you don't hear about that. Ten person is a very big number because according to the Darwinian theory of evolution, we had gay ten percent perennial volume over the last two million years when we evolved from Homo erectors to Homo sapiens, and that is the same amount of cranial

volume that we have lost in the last ten thousand years. So how does that happen? How do you explain that? And nobody has an answer to these question, which is why you don't hear about in mainstream media because the scientists don't know what's going on. And what I've said in my book is that perennial volume actually fluctuates in a twenty five thousand, eight hundred year cycle. It doesn't. It never really increased in a straight line from Homo directors

to Homo sapiens. Has always been fluctuating. So that's one of the main massts of the book. One of the big challenges of this time cycle is people like Michael Krimo in his book Forbid in Archaeology, actually show evidence of Homo sapien sapien, the very modern human in as well as over a million years. But the you guys actually show that we have the modern humans probably older than that, right, and these strange ape like creatures for other experiments.

We don't know who launched those, but our pure form, perhaps with you know, more or less brain capacity, has been around for a long time, right, Yeah, it has been for a long time. But how long, I mean, nobody's really sure of that. I mean, you know, you get all kinds of numbers. I mean, sometimes it's like the hundred million, eight hundred thousand years, sometimes one and a half million years, So you don't really know at what point of time modern humans

evolved or came up. But what is pretty clear is that this fluctuation in cranial volume has already has always been going on. It has never really been a straight linear improvement from ape like beans to us. It has always been fluctuating up and down, up and down, without any net increase or decreased in any direction. Right, I want you to talk. You just mentioned a little bit ago other similar types of cycles of men. The Greeks had the cycle of the Age of Man, the hope he had the four previous

worlds. There's the Maya in the Chinese. But in your excellent book you say and you report that the you guys are just one type of psychic determination. There's been other cultures talk a little bit about the similar is yeah, you know, I mean the concept of the Yugots would have been known to every ancient culture. No Ancian culture actually believed that they were at the pinnacle

of civilization. They always thought that their ancestors were much more wise and they could actually see like the Mayas used to say that therefore fathers could see to the ends of the universe. Right right, Yes, So even when other you know, the Greeks were building these massive ornaments and the Indians were carving these beautiful temples, they never claimed that we're in a higher Ever, they

always said, you know what we are in a caliba. We're in the lowest part of human consciousness, which is why you see so much of misery and corruption and evil and violence and discord everywhere. And it wasn't like this in the previous ages of Man. So in the if you look at the Greek classification, which is the cold and Silver, Bronze and Iron ages, it's very, very similar to what we have in India, the Satya yoga, the threa, the yoga, the Papa yuga, and the Kaliber.

There's a perfect one to one match between these classifications and the manner in which the earliest description of the ages of Man in the Greek text was given by the poet called Hesiod around six six uh BC, And the manner in which she describes the Iron Age is so starkly similar to the manner in which the

Indian astronomers and the Indian philosophers were talking about the Kaliber. So the Greeks were saying that, you know, this is the time when people don't respect their uh fathers or their parents, and they are ready to kill each other only for a few uh you know, only for a little bit of money. And they're always fighting, and there's there's there's so much discord and uh, you know, unhappiness everywhere, and which which starkly matches with the war

we find in the Hindu Puranas about the descriptions of the caliber. So the Greek and the Hindu texts really align in a lot of respects. And similarly, even the Hopie they have this extensive description of the four worlds, the First World War, the Second World, the Third World, and right now

we're in the fourth world. And every time they say that every time the particular world was created, it was very nice in the beginning, but soon people became greedy and selfish, they didn't trust each other, and wars broke out. And that's when the god they cause so took down. I think

he decides to, you know, destroy that world. And then he and then he finds out a way in which the righteous people, who were not partiking in all of these evil actions, the righteous people were conducted the underground home of the anti people. And this is very interesting because every time the world is destroyed, some people are given signals. They're given signs through which

they were conducted to the underground home of the ant people. And these ant people they had these large underground chambers which were decorated, which were lighted up, and they had a large reserves of food as well, and they stayed there until the world above them was kind of destroyed and recreated, and then they came out of that underground shelter. And this happened in each of the

three worlds. The world was destroyed either by fire or by earthquakes or flats, and when they emerged, they saw that everything had changed, nothing was like before. And in third world, they say that in the third world, the people they devised these war machines, it's called patu waters, and

they could ride or they were like our fighter jets. They could ride on this flying machines and then they could go and attack some neighboring city or village, and then they would come back so quickly that you couldn't catch them.

And then everybody started building these flying machines and fighting against each other. But when that world was destroyed and when they were taken to a new location, then the god who saved them, he tells them that all of those flying machines that he used, all of those big cities that you had built there now at the bottom of the ocean. And this seems to be a very strong message to our current civilization, where we seemed to be engaging in a

very similar kind of a behavior. I think if so Plang is looking at us right now, you must be thinking it's tied. You leave a lot of hints in your book Baboo about poor behavior and uh kind of stupid decisions with technology and destroying the environment some ways, your profit, your prophecies are

coming to roost, especially with the environment. Uh talk about that, Yeah, I mean one of the Uh, when we are in the descending cycle and our consciousness is declining, what happens is that even the environment also starts degrading. In some ways, the external environment mirrors our internal state of consciousness. So as we become more and more ingredient salvash and you know materialistic, the environment environment also degrees. And that's that's something that you can figure out.

So logically, I mean, why did we have all of these polluting industries to begin with? Anyway? Who came up with that bright idea, let's know, tump all our chemicals in the waters of the rivers and the lake. I mean, I mean, didn't somebody at that point say that you know what, this is not a good idea. We shouldn't be bulluting the water that we drink, and because that's going to have repercussions all over the world. They said, no, no, it's a bright idea.

Let's go and make some money. You know. That's that was the whole principle based on which we're at this current state. And then we came up with all of these nuclear power plants. Great, but how do you dispose of the nuclear waste? We haven't did figured that one out. So, I mean, why do we invent staff without thinking about the repercurssions of those inventions? And we've been doing this over and over and over again. And we have this large plastic garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean, right, and

yeah, we're still cutting down the rainforest. Yeah. So I mean, nobody, nobody's really thinking about the future generation. We're just thinking about ourselves. And you you describe this as this calor calor yoga mentality. It's kind of a heavy, not enlightened, selfish kind of attitude that is going to be the end of us unless we get our act together. Yeah. True.

And if you read the ancient texts, they always tell us that the main purpose of our incarnation is not to become rich and powerful and to indulge in all kinds of sensual pleasures. I mean, that's a small part of your life. Maybe to earn a bit of money and to you know, indulge in some amount of pleasures. That's a part of our life, but that's not the main purpose of our incarnation. The main purpose is to purify our minds so that we realize that we're actually gods. We have been made

in the image of the gods. And when you follow this path of cleansing your mind on a regular basis, just like we clean our physical bodies. We follow the practice of cleaning our minds on a regular basis by practicing all of these spiritual techniques and disciplines that they gave us and which has been transmitted through many such lineages over time. Then slowly we become that we realize that

all the joy and the happiness that we need is already within us. We don't really need so many things from the outside world in order to be happy, contented individuals. You already have all of that within us. And that's when we transform into our real selves, which is just transform into our God.

And that's the whole purpose of incarnation, to become a god. And that's how the gods created us, I mean the end of my elish they say that the gods took the blood of one of the you know, one of the slaying gods called Kingo, and then he took his blood and created humans. What that basically means is that they took the blood of our existing God, did some kind of genetic ra engineer on that, and then created

humans. So so so, the message that keeps on coming down to us from the sages and the and the prophets and the saints is that we we need to realize what we are here for. We need to realize what our soul purpose is, because unless we realize that we are just confused people doing this and that without really finding happiness in our lives. Is it? Would you say that, uh, the so in the term that I use and

you you also use it in the book is self realization. Would you say that that is being content, being in harmony with the planet which is Gaya, and and and working and living with your neighbor in some form of harmony. What is that? What? What does that do that that is the highlight of the physical being. But I think you're also saying in your book that it also is a a spiritual area to talk a little bit about that.

Yeah, it's it's uh, it's primarily a spiritual experience, because once we have that spiritual experience, then you automatically do all of those other things. Once you realize, once you find the joy and happiness and wisdom within you, then you automatically treat all other people with respect and love. You don't need to be told to behave nicely. The good behavior comes automatically through

you. The harmony and the peace comes automatically through you. You automatically live in harmony with the nature with other people, respect other people's opinions and their feelings. You don't do anything that causes any kind of harm to somebody else. Before doing any action, you think whether you would have liked that same thing to happen to you if you were on the other side. Basically, you think from the other person's perspective, which we don't tend to do in

our real life. We generally react based on our needs and our thoughts and our opinions, and we don't pay a lot of importance to how it affects other person on the other side. So kind of that kind of an awareness only comes when you get into some kind of spiritual practice, some kind of uh you know, adopts are started spiritual practices which you do on a daily

basis. Yeah, and that's what and that's what all the all the main religious tellas that just about we're gonna talk about some of the practices that have been handed down, uh in a in a minute, But I want to highlight these four phases, the Satya, Treta, Dara, and then the Cali yoga cycle. You say in your book, and I love this, You say that we've only scratched the service of being able to find evidence of the high points Satya, yoga. Ah, you excuse me, Satya and

Treeta. If you were to say, if you were to provide us with evidence of these earlier civilizations in a physical mode, what would you say, is an example of a building that's still with us? Or are there any buildings from those very very early periods that are left Well that's a difficult one. I mean, is there anything which is left over from the previous Golden

age? I don't think so. I think everything that we see today were built after the Golden Age, were built after nine thousand and six hundred BC, because it's after the end of the Ice Age that we entered into the descending cycle of consciousness, and that's when that's when everything. Since that time,

everything has been slowly declining. So there have been at some points there have been cataclysmic activities which have wiped out large civilizations across the world at around the same point of time, and then there has been a rebirth of civilization. For instance, if you look at the Bronze civilizations in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Indus Valley, all of them started at around three thousand and five hundred three thousand and six hundred doll BC, right nearly at the same time all

of this processed cultures started. And what happened to the civilizations prior to those, we don't see any basis of that. Those are those are gone buried under many feet of mud. And then all of these Bronze aged cultures, whether it's schipd or again Misoportima, Indus Valley, they all came to an end at around one thousand BC or so, and then around six hundred BC you have the Ironage cultures. You have Greek, the Greek civilization coming up.

You have the Gangeting various civilizations in India, Persian civilization with Zoroaster now in Egypt also it's like the Nubians are now ruling in Egypt. The Egyptians are gone around six hundred BC. You don't have any have any Egyptian kings from six hundred PC onwards because the Third Intermediate period in it at around six hunded BC, and after that it was not no longer Egyptian kings in Egypt.

So so you have this periods when large cultures all over the world, civilizations which have existed for the thousands of years, they're all wiped out at around the same time, and they're replaced by a new wave of civilization which are kind of different from the ones that came before them. For instance, the Greek civilization we started around six hunded BC. It's quite different from the

let's say Mineut culture or the Mycenaean cultures, the miniums. Even the construction styles, if you look at the minimum construction styles, it's quite different. They didn't have the kind of the building the buildings that the Greeks were building at around five hundre or six hundred BC. Yeah, so, and then you had this new crop of philosophers coming up at around six hundred BC. Solon and Tales, and then Socrates and Plato, they all started coming up.

But do we have any information about the philosophers of the Bronze Age. We don't. We have lost all of that information, right right. So this, this kind of a renewal of culture and loss of civilization, happens on a regular basis. And in my book, what I've said is that each yuga ITAs yuga is of two thousand, seven hundred years duration, and

this is followed by a three hundred year period of transition. When that you, guys, when the physical structures of that you are kind of destroyed and wiped away and the new structures start coming up during that period of transition. So the total duration is three thousand years, which is broken up into two thousand and seven and years period a period of the yoga, and a three hundred year period of transition. So three thousand into four is twelve thousand.

That's the descending cycle. Twelve thousand years descending cycle, and you have a twelve thousand years. Ascending cycle on the other side parads up to twenty four thousand years, and then the descending cycle and the ascending cycle are separated by two extended periods of transition, which the Greeks says to call at a Christmas

which means deluge ekpiras is meaning conflagration, means burning. Weeks believe that once the ascending cycle ends, that's when you have the world is destroyed by deluge which extends for a long period of time, like the Younger DRIs period. That's when there was this great winter extending for twelve hundred years, and you had this major fludding event as well. That's when the great flood mentioned in the flood legends of so many cultures happen. We're going into a similar period

now. It's going to be a period of ecpirasis, which is called burning. So we'll go after the Caliga ends. Is going to be a twelve hundred year period of ecpiracies. So it's going to be the Younger Drives period once again, except that this time the agency of cleansing is not going to be water and ice is going to be fired. Yeah. I love how you can actually give us a sense of what we can look forward to, which isn't necessarily a good thing, but it's at least it's some form of

heads up that we may be able to prepare for. We're going to finish the show with more information on the end of the Kali Luga Cali Yuga cycle, but I want to continue on with evidence of the supreme periods, which is the set. Yeah, and you actually give a couple of examples that I want you to talk about, uh boo. One is the science of astrology, detecting energy from other planets on human physiology and perhaps Earth systems.

This is unique and we don't understand it. We don't pay enough attention to it. But it's the actual influence of energy, unseen energy from these plants, and this is we don't pay it, we don't consider it valid, which it actually is very valid because uh Sadario or Hindu astrology is very very accurate, isn't it. So talk a bit about this ancient science and we don't really know where it came from, but it actually came from a period

we think when we understood subtle energy. That's true, and anybody who's consulted a vetic astrologer or a Hindu astrologist. He knows how accurate it can be. I mean, some of the readings that they gave you give you it can basically knock your socks off. They can tell you stuff that you never told anybody. Yeah so yeah, So, don't have too many secrets when you go and meet at castrology, because he's going to find them out right.

Yeah. Yeah. I've been astonished by some of the things astrologists have said to me because something that only you know and nobody else is supposed to know. Yeah. So so. But the question is how did the Asians figure out this science? Because they say that the configuration of the planets and the stars at the moment of your birth that determines your characteristics and your life path, and also says that as this as you go on in your life,

the planetary configurations continue to influence your the direction of your life. So how do you determine that you can't find it out by any kind of empirical means, because that would lead to humanous number of permutations and combinations. You have so many planets, so many stars, so many constellations, and yet the god is so they're so accurate about it. But here's the thing. The Ancians never claimed that they figure it out themselves. They said that this

knowledge was given to us by the Seventh Ages, by the sages. We didn't invent it ourselves, was given to us. Yeah, the same about the same about yoga. I mean, we know yoga works. I mean so many medical studies have been done on yoga, and it shows that when you people who practice yoga, their metabolit crates improve, their heart rates improved. And people who practice meditation they actually live no longer because it causes genetic

modification. Mindful meditation changes your genes. That's stuff proven scientifically. Provem that mindful meditation changes the length of the tellomares and therefore it increases your lifespan and it decreases the oxidative stress in your bodies. So yeah, I want you to talk a little bit more about that, because yoga was given to us

by Lord Shiva. And the thing that is fascinating that I learned about every day, and I've been practicing yoga for thirty years, is that whoever developed it understood the cellular level and the energetic influence on the body when you do these certain poses, and I practice hatha yoga, which is what you talk

about in your book. But boo, somebody understood our physiology to such a degree that they understood that these simple poses held for a few minutes or whatever, could bring in unseen forces and have a positive fact impact on our blood, on our health. People that have various conditions can improve what somebody whoever

invented that, whoever developed it, were God's right exactly. I mean, because if you look at the science behind yoga, it says that there's some invisible energy channels that flow through your body, and then there's this invisible energy called brana which flows through your body. And then when you do these arsenals, that energies gets redirected to different parts. But how do you figure figure it out? Because you can't see any of those things. You don't see

the channels, you don't see the energy, and yet it works. So the thing is that, I mean, this wisdom patients got it from some source. And this is something that I come back to over and over again in the book because there's just no simple explanations for some of this knowledge that we have with us today, and the only way you can explain it is by having some kind of an external source. The gods or the sage is giving us this information and then disappearing from the scene during the Kliba, and

we are kind of wondering what happened. And in my book what I say is that for these gods and the sages, it is possible that there bi rhythm is not regulated by the Sun. Their bi rhythm is regulated by this

central galaxy, by this central bulge of the Milky Way galaxy. And for them, the kaliga is the nighttime when they kind of take some rest or hibernate, and the rest of the Yuga cycle, the descending cycle, and the descending cycle, that's their daytime, and that's when they interact with humans.

So maybe right now these so called alien beans, so the Cause and the sages, maybe they are now resting, maybe they're hibernating, and maybe after the caliga is over, that's when they'll wake up and they'll come back and interact with us. And maybe that's why you are having more UFO sightings and you know, more more stuff like that going on in the world.

Today. We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today Babu Dev misrascussing his latest book Youga Shift, will be right back. My guest today is the Indian scholar Baboo Dev Misra, who has written a new book called Youga Shift on the Kelly Yuga cycle, which we are finishing up with right now and some of the prophecy behind this energetic change in time. So are you

saying this is something that you don't have in your book? You're saying that the increased UAP sightings are what that these are our overseers or anthropologists from our forefathers that are observing us. I think I've been doing some research on the UFOs for some time now, and I think a lot of these phenomena could be driven by an underworld civilization, by a civilization below the surface of the

earth. The reason why I think so is that a lot of Yukos have been seen coming out of water in a lot of places in Mexico and all over the world. In Italy, in Russia, they've been seen coming out of the water and they're going back into the water. So what business do they have down there? They've been seen coming out of lakes and going inside

lakes. I read this very interesting book called Solomon Island Mysteries, you know, written by a guy, Australian guy, and he talks about he went to the Solid Islands and he lived there for some time, and people there, everybody talks about giants and UFOs. It's no big deal for them. If if somebody goes missing, they're like, oh, maybe the giants took him, or you know, they don't think in terms of you know, some some criminal or somebody on the loose. So and he was talking.

He said, he said that he tracked an UFO and he saw that UFO coming out of a lake high up in the mountains at two o'clock at night, and then later it came back and went back into that lake. I don't know if he was making it up or not, but it seemed very genuine to me. I read the book. It was pretty it's very interesting, and I thought, well, I mean, there must be something down

there. And so what I think might be going on now with this increased UFO sightings is that this underworld civilization which is kind of waking up from some kind of slumber or some kind of hibernation and now they're coming out and checking out the to see how humans have progressed what we have been. It's so funny you mentioned this, bab, because I mean, I've been following this for as long as I can remember, since I was a kid, the

whole UFO and alien interaction. We're not getting enough interaction, is my problem. And also we're not getting enough of them landing and saying, hey, hello, welcome to the Brotherhood or family of Planets or something like that. So we're just not ready. I guess is that what you're thinking. What do you think? I think there, I think they must be pretty disappointed to see them. They're disappointed at us. Oh, they just don't want to have anything to do with us, because wow, I mean, because

you know, we have made all of these machines. We have we have done pretty well when it comes to technology. But the technology that you have developed has also caused a lot of damage to the environment, and it also damages our consciousness on a daily basis. And then and if you look at the arms and uh war machines, they can fall into the wrong hands. In fact, they're always in the wrong hands. When was when was a rfle a gun in the right hand in the first place. Yeah, and

we keep doing this wars and stuff everywhere. I don't think they're very happy with that. Yeah, they see that we're kind of it's kind of like animalistic. I want to talk about another extremely important technique that I think was perhaps handed down by the ancients, and that is a meditative practice, meditation.

And I learned meditation from the Maharishi mesh Yogi, who was a Hindu uh sage who came to America and took thousands of years of long term meditative techniques which are would never be accepted by the Americans because we don't have the time to sit for hours, and developed it into a two twice a day, twenty minute cycle. And we now know that through testing, through medical testing, that meditation is extremely beneficial to the brain, to the body,

and to the connection with the spirit. And I think, even though you don't talk a great deal about it, this is one of these high level Satya techniques that were passed down. Talk a little bit about that, yeah, I mean I spoke about yoga or hata yoga, and meditation is an extension of that particular discipline. Because meditation also falls in the broad category of

yoga and meditation has always been, at least in India. Meditation has always been regarded as the primary means by which you can connect with your own inner divine a sense, and that really is the sol course. I mean, meditation puts you in touch with what's there in your heart, which is your soul, and your soul is the reflection of the divine. So once your when your mind becomes immersed in your soul, which is the which is which

is the what yoga means. Yoga means union. The term yoga means union, and it's the union of your mind with yourself, in yourself that fills you with joy and peace and calmness and positivity, and that is also the source of her wisdom. Person who meditates can intuitive to understand a lot of things which people who don't meditate don't understand. So you could, you know, you could write a book in your mind, and you know people wouldn't.

It might take people a long time to figure that out through normal empirical and scientific piece, but you could figure it out just just in an instant. So that's what meditation does. It awakens your innate potential which otherwise you don't have access to. And that's such an important element of the yoga cycle because in the Higher Yugos everybody meditated. Not meditating was like a joke. Don't meditate, I mean, you must be crazy. I mean that would

have probably been the outlook in the Higher Yugos. And now it's the opposite, Like if somebody meditates, it's like, while you're wasting our time. That's it. They're doing nothing. Do you believe that that there is a energetic balance of because I know that in certain parts of Tibet and in India

and in different parts of the world, people are meditating regularly. Do you think there's a harmonics, a positive harmonics that offsets the problematic energies of the earth when you have one side meditating worth I mean, I've always wondered about that. I thought you you might have an answer to that, you know, the balance. I don't know. I mean, I'm not so sure

that meditation. We maybe if they were really enlightened people and they could anchor a lot of they could anchor a lot of energy, and maybe their field of influence would be so large that it would encompass the whole world. But we don't have people like that's so powerful, so spiritually powerful people right now in the Kluba. So I think people who are meditating, it's probably the the sphere of influence would probably be limited to that particular region and not extend

the rest of the world. Yeah, in a minute, here we're going to talk about a second section of your book called the End of Time Prophecies in the Return of the Avatar, which is unique because I think that's a very high level individual. All right, we're gonna delve into the cali Yuga now. And for those of you listening, this may sound depressing. I mentioned this to Baboo as we started. We don't want people to jump out

the window. But you write in your book that the the last phase of the cali Yuga cycle is starts at the year twenty twenty five and ends in twenty forty. And talk a little bit about this period because we're obviously we're coming up to twenty twenty five. What do we see as we as human beings, do we experience and what is the cycle prophecy? Yeah, I spoke about the fact that we are now going into a twelve hundred year period

of presentation which is a long period of transition. But the Greeks is to call it epyruses, which means fire. This is where this is when the planet gets cleansed by fire. This is also when humans and this is also when humans get that our inner consciousness also goes through cleansing by fire. Now

what does this entail? I mean, that's really the big question. So one of the things that happens in a urganic period, if you go back to history and you read the Mabara or the Ramayana, the main epis of India, or to read the Iliad, one of the things that happens is

that there's always an outbreak of war and violence on a global scale. This is something that just keeps on happening at a Yuga ending period because for some reason the energy balance of the planet changes and people kind of lose their marbles. They become extremely aggressive and they don't listen to any kind of logic anymore, and that triggers a lot of wars and revolutions and social you know,

social unrest all over the world. And to look at what's been happening now over the last few years, couple of years, I mean, we're going in that trajectory. I mean, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that we are now going into a very dangerous phase of our planet when a big work would break out any time. So it's not something we should really

be so afraid of. I mean, once you understand that these change just happen on a regular periodic basis at a time when the Yuga ends, then you can see that while things are happening the way they are, why things seem to be create getting crazier and crazier every minute, and nobody seems to be listening to any kind of reason or logic. But uh, but the main agents of change, main agents of cleansing, which happens during the uga

ending periods is basically a swarm of comets. Comets are basically the agent the main agents of change, and this swarm of comets is located within the torrent media stream. And I think Graham and Cogan mentioned this in his book The Magicians of the Gods, and I took up on his research and I did a bit more research on that, and it seems that there are at least a couple of really big comments within that swarm which become active see When comets

are not active, comments can change between their active and their dormant. Those comments are right now in a dormant mode, which is why we don't see them, even though we crossed the tourist stream twice a year, once in May June and once in October November. Becross that's stream twice a year, but we don't see these comments because they are now in a dormant state.

But they could become active very soon, transform into large brilliant comets. That's going to and whenever that happens, it's going to have a big repercussion on the energy balance of the entire Solar system in all of these large commets before before you go on, but when you say active comment, what does that mean? Does that mean that they're more directed towards our cosmos or what?

No, these comments are circulating within the tourist stream. The Torygte meteor stream is you know, it's it's an elliptical structure, which one end of it is near the orbit of Jupiter and the other end is around the Sun. So it's it's an elliptical structure. Are you talking about like the like the asteroid belt? No, no, no, this is something else. It's yeah. See what happens is that when a comet comes into the inner Solar System and it basically goes around the Sun, it creates a river of rubble

along its path, and those are the meteor streams. So when it passed through a meteor stream, we are basically passing through the rubble and the debris

left behind by a comet. And with one of these one of these meteor streams is the Torred meteor stream, which is the largest and the widest stream of meteors in the Solar System. And the Torrid meteor stream has its app helium, which is the for this point from the Sun. It is near the planet of near the planet Jupiter, so Jupiter is basically controlling this particular stream of meteors and comets. Within this stream there is a large swarm of

densely packed comets and asteroids. And these comets and asteris are not dormant, which means it's not giving off any gas. So when a commet becomes active, it develops a large coma around the nucleus and then it develops these large

tails. The gains of a comet can extend for millions of miles so even if a comet passes, let's say one hundred thousand kilometers away from us, its tail could actually sweep over our planet and set it on fire because the tail contains a lot of ions, and these ions could actually set the Earth on fire if it wanted to base. So, which is why comet which is active is far more dangerous than a comet which is dormant, because now

it's not giving off any gases. And according to the astronomers, British astronomers Clube and Napier and their collaborators, we are going to our planet is going to pass right through the center of that swarm in the years twenty thirty two and twenty thirty six, So those are the two years we are going to pass through the center of that dense sworm. And my research indicates that this is also the time when these comments could become active as well, so it

could be the time when a lot of you know, changes happen. So these comments are going to be they're too big to burn up in our atmosphere, so they would be disruptive and actually hit the planet and in some cases, depending on how big they are, they could really cause some serious damage. Yes, they could, they could cause a lot of damage. And when I look back at the past transitional periods, I saw that most of the changes that happened in those periods of transition, they were caused by mature

and comment impats mainly. So this time we were passing through the center of the Swami. Twenty thirty two and twenty thirty six and twenty thirty six is a date that kept on coming up in my research. For example, with Edgar Keise, he talks about the Earth changes. He says that it's going to be in thirty six, that his light is going to be seen in the sky. And when he said his light, he was winning the return of Christ. And he said that's thirty six, and people assume that he

was talking about nineteen thirty six. He didn't give a day, He didn't say anything before about Edgar Casey, Edgar Casey Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, And he said, oh yeah, he said the main Earth. He said the main Earth changes are going to happen in thirty six, and people assume that he was talking about nineteen thirty six. Read what I'm saying, and what I'm saying is that no, it's not ninety thirty

six. Why would Edgar Casey was making was giving out these readings nineteen thirty two, talk about the return of the Messiah in nineteen thirty six, when in fact he went on to give so many readings about the Second World War in nineteen forty and beyond, so he wasn't talking about nineteen thirty six. He was talking about twenty thirty six. And when he said that his light is going to be seen in the sky, I believe he was talking about

the activation of these giant comets within the toad steam and these comments. What I've what I've gathered from my study is that these comets are seem to be divinely guided. They're not. They're not like some random, abrupt coalitions. The comets were regarded by the ancients as the messengers of their gods, or as the animal mounts of their gods, because you see, when you when you look at the ancient depictions of the gods, they were always shown riding

through the sky on some kind of an animal. It could be an alleghant or Mardu rides a dragon, and then Zeus rides a horse, somebody rides a you know, some other kind of an animal, or maybe a lion. And when you read some of these ancient texts, somebody writes a bird a bird comet, remember the bird deity, the phoenix, or the garuda

bird, or maybe the horus falcon. You know, all of these birds and horses, they were all comets, because when you did the ancient text you find that they described comets as birds, as horses, as dragons and serpents. So they were basically talking about comets when they were talking about these animals which the gods used uh for traveling across the skies. So what that tells me is that these comets are kind of divinely guided. They're not going

to come here and cause unnecessary event and destruction. Let me just start here for a second, baboo. So when you say divinely guided, that would be like a form of panspermia intelligently guided uh microbes, but in this case intelligently guided asteroids in a cyclic manner. And you say that this passing through this Turreid residence swarm, we do it every twenty seven hundred years. But

why would I guess it? It's a minor pass, a minor pass, and then there's a major pass through this swarm where there's the big Earth terminating types of asteroids, and you're saying that we're coming up to the big ones, right, You're coming up to the big ones. But it's like I said, it's dividely guided. It's not random, it's not going to be

artbit. Really, they're going to do whatever is necessary to destroy the evil and to help the righteous people, save the righteous people, so that the new civilization which comes up to the Kaliga gets start off with a set of good people to set the foundations of the ascending Yoga cycle the books called Yoga

Shift, the end of the Klai Yuga and the impending planetary transformation. My guess is, Baboo dev Misra, I don't want to get into two doom and glue, but we still want to talk more about this impending, approaching asteroid infliction. At the end of the Younger Dryest, which was roughly nine five hundred BC twelve thousand years ago, roughly that impact with this swarm was

deadly, wasn't it. Talk a little bit about that. Of course, we've heard from Graham Hancock and we've heard from others who described the devastating impact on Earth, but talk a little bit about that and what you feel we may be looking forward to. Well, there were two impacts, one at the beginning of the Younger Dress and one at the end of the Younger Grice,

and there were quite a few in between as well. The one at the beginning of the Younger Dress that basically killed of the ice age Megaponum and the civilizations that existed prior to the Younger Dries, and it started that Younger Gris cooling period. It basically shut down the and all that North Atlantic that

stream, and it started started that cooling process for twelve hundred years. And then at the end of that twelve Hlid years, at around nine thousand and seven and in BC, there was another set of impacts which came from the Torret meteor stream. This is described in the rig Vedas in a lot of details. He talks about the swarm of comets called mar Roots. It was about talks about this horse comet which they call Indra, and the struck the

Himala and glaciers. And what happened was that these glaciers had become so big it had blocked off all the river valleys, and so it breaks up these glaciers and the rivers start flowing again. That was not a that was a joyous seedn in the sense that it ended that cold period. What was a lot more catastrophic was what happened at the beginning of the Younger DRIs, which

started this cooling process for twelve hundred years. What happened at the end of the Younger Dress was these glaciers and the ice caps struck by a volley of comets and meteors which melted those ice caps. That started this warm, loosing period that we're living in right now. So that was a good thing. I mean, that period needed to be ended, and that started this descending

cycle. And now we're at the end of this descending cycle. We know in twenty forty there's going to be a conjunction of the five visible planets and the moon in the sign of Libra. They're all going to cluster within a ten degree area of the sky. This is the conjunction that the Chaldean astronomers

were talking about. They were saying that there were two conjunctions of Planet one in areas which happens at the end of the Golden Age, and there's another conjunction of planet which happens in Libra, which is the exact opposite side, and that conjunction of planet happens at the end of the descending cycle, at the end of the caliber, that is happening in twenty forty. So that's another very clear astronomical indication to us that what the issuans were telling us about

these cycles is actually going to happen. That in twenty forty, this conjunction of planets in Liberal is going to happen within a tending area of the sky, which would indicate that the descending cycle and the caliber is tan and dusted. I mean, you're you're not going to I don't think that the calibe energies and the ideologies will carry forward beyond twenty forty. Beyond twenty forty, I think it'll be the survivors will charge their course to the next world age,

not the sad forty. Okay, twenty forty is a long way off. It is starting to be sold about it. I think I think they're they're a lot more what is, you know, worrying things going on in the world right now? Twenty forty is the lasting on minds of many people. I agree with you, it is a long way away, but you know what, twenty twenty five is not that far along, and that is

the beginning of the end cycle. So if you write about that, you know, what do we do on a conscious, physical and spiritual level to prepare because you can't you know, if you know that your life ends at twenty forty do we try to be the best human being that we can And it doesn't make a difference, though it does it because the cleansing happens no matter what. Yes, but there are always survivors and if you become the best person that you can be, you could be one of the survivors.

So that's number one. And number two is that even if you don't survive to read all of this, nda you know near it experience is that comets, everybody goes, everybody goes to the light, and everybody then goes and lives in happiness with their ancestors. So I stop you real quickly, stop you real quick. So for those of you listening, you guys know me. You know what I'm all about. If we were to put it into context, I'm an older soul. I've had life and death thousands of times,

so leaving the body shouldn't be a scary thing. Of course it is, because nobody wants to die. But what Baboo is suggesting is that we prepare physically, emotionally, and spiritually to be the best that we can be, so that as we transition, either we stay and be a survivor, or we leave the body and we come back to a new world at another time. This is the thinking of the ancients, is what Baboo is trying to tell us in this book. This is how we process what is called

the human condition. That we're not just this biological entity, this physical entity, that we also are a higher level, We are a higher spirit, and that we cycle. We come physically and we die, and we leave, and we go back to heaven if you want to call it heaven, and then we come back. But I think, I think when we read this, it's kind of depressing. Uh, And I want to end with this end of time prophecies talk a little bit about the end of time perhaps

going beyond the destruction and the return of the Avatar. Talk about that. Well, I think the return of the Avatar is really the activation of the todd comments, the comments, because the comments are the the messe anges of the abadas the messenges of the gods. The gods they don't come themselves to do the cleansing, they just send their messengers. They do the work for

them. And it's only after the cleansing is done, that's when the gods and the sages they take on human forms and the inpact with the survivors. So it's going to be a brilliant time for the survivors. I mean, I'm really happy for them. I mean they are going to go into a world that will be pure and be clean, and they're going to get a lot of wisdom right from the source, from the people, from the people who have designed this planet to your school for the evolution of the consciousness.

They're the ones who make the teachers, the ancient teachers who have given us all the wisdom. They're the ones who are going to come back and teach the survivors. The survivors are going to have a brilliant time on this planet and those of us. And then there's another thing, Like I said, you're very close to a time when the central black Hole becomes turns into an

age and into an active galactic nucleus. So when that happens, you're going to be flooded with a new light, and that is going to be very high frequency light because it's gramma raised and X rays and what happens with high and what happens with high frequency light is that it kills off all the disease causing microorganism, So it's going to be a life free of disease. It also generates a lot of negative vince, which is very good for our mood

and our dispositions. And it's also going to trigger a lot of genetic reactions within our body that makes us bigger and stronger and wiser. So it's going to be a brilliant time for the survivors. For the rest of us, we'll come back to a higher EUGA next time. That's a big deal. I mean, none of us are immortal anyway you're going You have to understand a lot of people think about it, Cliff. If all of us die in a bunch, we go to heaven and have a party. It's much

better. It's much better than dying one by one, isn't it. No, it's you live, and you are born into a country that understands and accepts reincarnation. The United States as a young entity has a great deal of fundamental Christians who don't believe necessarily in reincarnation. And then there's those who are not religious or spiritual at all, who say that when we die, it's over. That's it. So that's the fear factor, is that population who

does not believe that we have any existence beyond the physical. So that's why the book is so wonderful. Because you kind of finished the book by talking about the return of the gods or as you call them, the avatars. So talk a little bit about that. What do you see as the return? Would these be the UAP drivers who would come and who are perhaps five to ten half a million or a years older than we are. I think

the veil between the dimensions are going to be lifted at some point. Whether it's going to be going to happen in the twenty thirties or the twenty forties, I'm not entirely sure about that, because butther it's going to happen before the destruction happens, or after the destruction happens, or during the process of

distraction, I'm not so certain about that. But it's going to be lifted all of these bees, whether it's from the underworld from the You know, all of these people that we call the elves and the dwarfs, and I think the anti people of the Hope. They remind me about the dwarves. Yeah, the dwarves. Yeah, they seem to be because the dwarfs supposedly

lived underground. They were very skill that all kinds of metal work and stuff, and they had very opulent lifestyle and very read about some of these stories about the dwarfs in the ancient Celtic legends, they sometimes used to take humans to their underground homes and you know, let them have a good time.

Mm hm. So so all of these inter diamision and the Hope. You talk about the Kachinas, the Kachina spirits, which who I believe correspond to the elves and the face in the in the context of the legends, Yeah, the Kachina are represented of different gods and aliens. And I just found this out. We had Clifford Mahoudi, who passed away a couple of years ago, a Zuni elder, talk about the Kachina clan who comes to Earth to learn from the Hope but also in parts wisdom from the from the planet

other planets. Yeah, And they say that the Kachinas, although they live inside the mountain cays and you know, below the surface of the earth, they're supposed supposedly they came from places far and far away from the the Initially they came from the stars. Then they settled down here on the earth, and then they instruct the hope, and they give them their blessings and give them wisdom and things and the hope. You actually believe in this UFOs a

lot. I mean. One of them said that we have seen the UFOs. One of the Dadas, I forget his name, He said that we have seen the UFOs, and we know that when the day of purification comes, they're going to take us on there pie, They're gonna take us from the planet. So, I mean, that's a really optimistic way I'm thinking about it. I'm laughing, but I'm probably gonna be burnt up in a cinder. Well we say twenty forty, Well, I'll be an old man. But so what Hey, this book Yoga Shift, I love it.

We have just scratched the surface and given a wide swath with our brush of what's contained in it. It is packed with so much material. It is a master work, and I want to congratulate you on this on this work, because I've followed we followed each other, and I followed your writing and had you on off and on for years. But it's very, very important,

and uh, it has a lot of information about our ancestors. And I've been interested in the ancients for a long time and it's really I think, and you talk about this in the book, it's a problem for our current scientists because we don't have evidence of these earlier people. Our current science

paradigm and the scientific method is so resistant and so hard to realize. They can't see energy, and I mean they can, but they can't realize that this earlier civilization understood energetics, worked with energetics in a way that we don't understand. And so because we can't see it, we can't talk about it. And you talk about this in your book, that we've just barely scratched

the surface of discovery. You think it would make a difference if we found one of their machines, if we found say, a tool that could or a machine that could measure energy or whatever. I don't know, if we could ever find that, we'd have to find a building that contains that would that help us understand our plight. I don't know, because even if we come across such a machine, we might not even understand what it was used for. Yeah, So it's kind of difficult too, you know. I

mean, sometimes we find stuff and then it disappears. So many giant skeleitules which have disappeared, right, yeah, I mean years ago, there was a story that the United States Army was in the Middle East and they went into a cave and they found a functioning VERMANA remember this story, and I think he brought it up once. Yeah, Yeah, and then and then one of these soldiers got too close to it and it got disintegrated because it was an an energy field was on it to protect it. We don't know.

The story goes that world leaders came and they looked at it as well.

We can't verify this, we don't know, but if we ever got a hold of Vana, it would knock the socks off us because the technology behind it would be so godly we couldn't perceive it, right, Yeah, I mean I was, I was reading about some of these jowful There was Yupo swarm in Italy in the year ninety seventy eight, and that was there were hundreds of UFOs reported in the country throughout nineteen seventy eight, and it was reported in the mainstream newspapers and literally, uh you know, they were

they were report every one or two days, and a lot of people saw these had interactions with the beans, and they all described these UFO drivers occupants as a kind of dwarf beans. You know, they were like three or four foot tall. And that kind of tells me, are these anti people? Are these the same wars that read about in the legends? Are they are the ones making these machines and kind of flying around? And you know,

so it's very interesting. I mean, a lot of this ancient a lot of the older EUPO reposts they talk about these little green men, which kind of reminds me of the and people or the dwarfs of the legends. So, yeah, they could be they could they could be checking out of the planet to see you know what I mean. They might be you know, doing a recond of your house saying that, yeah, Cliff is the

guy we need to save by the next time. I don't know, I would feel I've always wandered my physical reaction to a face to face interaction. And I've always said this that most of these guys, and this is because I've read reports, most of these guys are extremely highly evolved between five ten, perhaps half a million years old, and they resonate in a different frequency.

And one of the reasons that we can't be with him face to face is that it's damaging to them and it would probably be physically damaging to us. So I don't know how we get through that. And I We're just so Earthlade and our lighter size are not available. Ah. This book is wonderful, the Yga Shift. It is now available on YouTube no excuse me. It's available on Amazon dot com. You can get a copy of it. You must get this for your library because it is packed with data.

Give us your web address, babu and how other people other people can get material on this work else so they can get this stuff. Yeah. My my website is called Ancient Inquiries and the web address is www dot Bodavemisha dot com. It's just my name, oh your name, Yeah, and uh, you get the book on Amazon. That's the easiest way to get it. There's a kindle version for those who want ebooks. And on my website you'll find some articles that I wrote about the Yuga cycle, you know,

in the years bag and do you have any videos? Do you have a YouTube channel up with any data? So I haven't just started my channel, although I have plans of starting a channel okay soon And I'm also going to mention and before we started, I was talking to Baboo about doing Zoom presentations at conferences and I'm I'm going to force him to do a few here in America. But I will make announcements with that. So as we the part. But what would you like to leave the listener with regarding this book?

Why do you think this book is something that people should be reading. I think it's very important at this point of time to understand that we are at a critical juncture. We're at the point of transition from one you go to the other. And our ancestors have been through this process. I mean, they have been through these you transitions. They have left their teachings and their messages for us, and we must realize that we are no more special than

our ancestors if they have gone through this kind of a scenario. I mean, we need to go through it as well, and maybe it was us all along, if we have been reincarnating, maybe it was us who reincarnated, you know, in the previous eagle transitions and left messages for us to recover and understand this juncture of our evolution. So we need to take it calmly, without getting too worried or to excite it, because at the end of the day, nan of us are immortal. We come here to learn

our lessons. So even if we have got you know what, fifteen years, you could become a Buddha in fifteen years, Buddha become a Buddha in five years, right, in fifteen years, you could be a triple food we wanted we wanted to. So, I mean, there's plenty of time. I mean, I don't think there's anything to warrior about other than the fact the only question that we should all be asking ourselves is am I wasting

my time? Because if you are running after the bells and whistles of the world, if money and power and pleasure is all that motivates you, then you are. But if you trying to make a positive if you're trying to develop yourself positively, if you're trying to you know meansy yourself mentally, then you're on the right track. And as long as we're on the right track, I don't think there's anything to be worried about for anybody. I mean, that's the way I look at it. And I'm not worried about the

coming transition. And I really don't think anybody who values the wisdom of the Asians and you understand this cycle should be worried about what's on the way. Rather, the only thing you should be worried about is am I doing the right things? Am I on the right track? Those are the only questions we should be asking ourselves. Wonderful but bull dev Misrael the books called Yugo Shift. This is a master works. And when I say a master works,

this book has the definition of the cycle, the previous civilizations. What it means, a great deal of raw data that has been processed and easy to read and understand. And that's why I call it a master works. Everybody should have this book in their library. Much success, Baboo has been a pleasure, and we're going to have to have you back maybe before the end of the year to talk a little more about this. Surely my pleasure to chat with you again, and as the situation it was, we can't

chat about it more. You know, I've said it many times. I even open the show by making this a must have book, The Yoga Shift, the book that Baboo wrote, is fabulous, and I'm just going to say it again. It's fabulous. It's easy to read, it is it's very well organized, and it is I mean, I couldn't put it down for a few days, and I didn't even finish it because I'd go back and forth and highlight various portions of the book that were important not only for

my research, but he connects the dots. We do not have any evidence, enough evidence, i should say, of this earlier period, which to date archaeologists discount. They flat out they do not believe there was an earlier civilization. I mean they call it a pre dynastic period in Egypt, in Maya Land, in Central America. It's the hunters and gatherers. Actually that's all North and South America. And I mean Baboo said it quite succinctly.

There isn't enough evidence, and if we did find the evidence for it, it would be unrecognizable. And this is a real good thought because we may be looking at artifacts that are extremely sophisticated that our tools, devices, machines

that we just don't understand. And so so, if the Satya period tens of thousands of years ago was inhabited by very very high level Homo sapiens or ancestors who developed sciences that were energetically focused, that dealt with subtle energy, dealt with machines that produced subtle energy, like the Great Pyramid, and we just can't recognize it, then we're not going to even consider it. I still think it's valid to consider re using temples, buildings, and pyramids over

the years. Now, this is a good hypothesis, and I'll tell you why. Because if the Great Pyramid, as Chris Dunn laid out, was the machine that produced energy, after a few thousand years of use, it went into the planet, was cleansed through some catastrophic event of the creators of this device, and then not knowing how to hell to work the thing, the pre Dynastics and the Dynastics repurposed it as a crypt or a tomb,

and this is where our current science is focused on. The Egyptological community believes pyramids were tombs for pharaohs and the original pyramids are likely the machines that Chris Dunn talks about later. Not knowing how to reproduce the stone cutting technology and architectural design of the Great Pyramids, they built pyramids with the mud brick. We see this at we see this in other places. We see it also

in Africa, Southern Africa with some of the people in that area. So it would make sense to try to replicate what the ancestors did, but unsuccessfully. And we see Sakara in a state of disrepair and destruction simply because mud bricks are not going to last. And I just you know, I've said

this forever. If your education is not allowing an openness to new possibilities, if you are in a field of study, not considering multidisciplinary approaches, bringing in engineers, bringing in chemists, bringing in other sciences to look these things over, then you're stuck in a rut. And I get a lot of grief on not only this show, but on Facebook when I post other possibilities.

Now another possibility as a French scientist who believes that some of the stonework is Geo Palmer's and he's written a number of books on the topic, but he is batted around as a kook, and anybody who speaks up and with other ideas is labeled the pseudo pseudoscienceists. Look at Graham Hancock huge success with this Ancient Apocalypse Netflix series, tens of millions of people watching it and applauding him. It freaked out the archaeological community. It just freaked out because they

can't bear to release the reins of their orthodoxy. They do not want others to even consider the other possibilities. This is why I really like the Yoga Shift book that we've talked about today, because it begins to help us understand we don't know where yoga came from. We think it's five thousand years old. It's so much older than that, you know, and astrology, and I'm wondering what else is out there on the statue yoga side, the highly

evolved side that could be mistaken for something else. It's just fascinating. So anyhow, get this book, Yoga Shift. You won't regret it. It is wonderful. It is well written, and it's so packed with material that we couldn't even get We covered about half, No, we covered less, We covered maybe a third. And you can't do it in and what did we go to? The hour and twenty minutes. You can't cover all of this material, so we're gonna have a baboo back. But in the meantime,

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