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went into Lebron becoming Lebron. Almost definitely, they just want to tune into Game seven.

you know, clean cut to the outfit. This is the nigga off the post for whatever problem that you've ever seen a black man model and like an outlet, mall like that nigga there and then him he's slick a defensive end, but he tried a trick y'all. You know, we know the back I ain't gonna give it all the way up. These dudes are very verse, stick with what they do, you know what I mean? Man?

I could tell jokes like you know what I'm saying, but it's like, how do you turn that into an actual professional feature family?

while that was my goal. And I've been blessed to always be good at whatever it is I decided to do. And in two thousand and two, my uncle, who was, like I would say, the person who assumed the father role, the most consistent male that I had ever had, had got murdered in two thousand and two. So that changed my perspective a little bit because it scared me real bad because he was one of those guys that you see get all the respect and all the love, and

you know, he was like a superhero to me. So when that happened, it changed my perspective on my you know route, because I knew that this dude was a thousand times tougher than I ever could be. Everything that I know about being stand up and being a man I really got from him, especially in the space that I was, you know, aspiring to be a part of. After he died, I realized that, you know, I dis ain't the way, so I took some money that I had, and I've always I started working when I was nine

years old. You know, I've been getting my own money for a long time. I don't come from a household where nepotism was prevalent in any way, so I've always been able to generate my own income, even if it was just you know, I started out working at the barbershop brushing people off for dollars as a brush board, and then I got a job and hold foods as

a bagger. And then you know, even when I jumped out and started doing the shit that we kind of all get caught up and when we come from certain environments, I still always kept a job because I was taught that you should never have more money than you can account for if the government come knocking over the door. So, you know, I worked at DTL and I've just always been efficient and making my own money. But at that point, I knew that I had to take a route that

was less traveled for where I come from. So I took some money and paid for me and my partner to go on a college tour for all of HBCUs from DC all the way down to Florida, and honestly we went to where I ended up going to Winston Salem State. And the reason I picked the college I went to is because I seen twenty girls before and I said, this ain't that bad. I didn't know anything about college life up until that point because in DC public schools, they don't you know, they didn't really teach

us about college. They really were just trying to get us out of school safely, you know what I mean. Really, we had a very high drop our rate, you know what I mean. The violence was real bad, and you know that wasn't you know, I got as counselors weren't guiding you towards that they were pretty much gotten you through real life issues. So once I went to Winsalem State and then I applied to more House, it was

the only two schools that I applied to. Prior to that, I was just doing enough to make sure that my mama was satisfied with my schooling. But I knew that I was always, you know, proficient in whatever I did, so that when my uncle got killed, I started to buckle down to get right with the academics. So I went to more House, was supplied there, didn't get in. I mean, well, I got in, but I found out it was a dude school, and I was like, that's work on where I had no idea.

to Winston. You know, I majored in communications radio Television. I graduated and I went to get a job where I did an internship at at a news station in Winston Salem, North Carolina. And they told me I was gonna be making six dollars and fifty cent an hour part time. I was like, no, I'm not, just because of my like I said, my background, I've always been able to to, you know, get my own in. So I was like, well, if I'm gonna be I knew

this was the start of my life. The way the world projects life and what a man is supposed to do, I knew this was the start of it. So I said, well, if I'm gonna be pawing, struggling, and then everybody telling me you don't really have a choice but to be paorn struggling at the beginning, then I'd rather be poor and struggling building my own legacy than helping somebody else that then took that elite Bill did and continue to Bill did. So I decided to you know, figure it

out and that what that was gonna be. I had no idea, and my homeboy Jerome saluted my boy Jerome. He was like, bro, you should do comedy. You should do comedy, and mind you, I had never been to a comedy show at this point. I've always, you know, spoke in front of people. I've never had a stage fright. I've been speaking in front of people my whole life. I used to host all of the stuff for my fraternity when I was in school, and you know, I'm

an outpha. Yeah. So I hosted all of this stuff for school, and you know, I was a person that didn't mind getting on stage and was good at it. So my boy Jerome was like, man, it's a comedy club in Greensboro, which is about thirty minutes away. We should go and check it out. They got an open mic. It was the first and second Thursday of every month. So that first Thursday we went and watched the show and I watched this people bomb over and over again, and I said, well, shit, I can at least give

it a try, you know what I mean. And I ended up going home that weekend and had a series of events that kind of made me realize that I really need to do something that's of value because that was my first time in one of my father's gravesite and he didn't have a headstone, and that was a big part of what made me realize, like, yo, I can't go out like this. This dude is my father,

but they don't even have a headstone. And luckily for me, my background has made it to where I could deal with the reality of things that that's the way it was always given to me. So when the lady showed me the grass. My first thought was like, damn, I hope I put these flowers on the right nigga, because this is gonna be confusion. And that's truly my thought process.

But when I went home and showed my mom a paper that they gave me at the graveyard, she immediately broke down and cried and because they had is information wrong. And that let me know that even though he didn't do enough in his life to get a headstone, and nobody around him that did enough to get him one, he still had enough impact in love that after all of these years, it could still make this woman feel this way. So that means I got a special type

of energy. Even though I've never been given the explanation of how to manage it, I had to figure out on my own. At that moment, I kin kind of confirmed that that's what it was for me. So I went back down to North Carolina and I went the next week to the open mic, got on stage there four minutes. And it may sound crazy, but when I got off stage, I swear it was like, that's what I'm supposed to be doing, and I've been doing it ever since that day.

I was always a dude that had all the new everything, and you know, everybody knew me for going to get some money. That was pretty much what I was always known for, being gonna hustle.

might be a little easier now. At that point, I had to realize that it was better for me to stay down there because I didn't want to have to deal with the repercussions of the failures that come with entrepreneurship and chasing your own dream like it's one thing if a stranger say you ain't shit, but if your mama's looking at you like, baby, you ain't ate again today,

like it may, it affects you a little different. And I knew my You know, I'm very big on not caring about what people think about me because I care so much about the people who matter what they think of me. So I didn't want to have to deal with that influence because I knew at that point I didn't have enough understanding of what the game was to

be able to get through that. I would have probably quit nine times out of ten, just because that influence would have made me feel like because I know how to hustle, so it would have made me feel like, man, what am I doing?

looking for new talent. So I figured if I could make a name for myself there and make and build a following there wherever I go, I would have had that leverage, like I want to work with you, but I've already shown you what my work is when I show up. So that was my plan. So I stayed down and started to just do open mics, and then I got into a group. It was called NC Comics. It was a bunch of comedians who just were trying to They were funny and were trying to figure out

a way. So it's unlike Atlanta. A lot of the guys that are starting Atlanta, LA and New York, which are the you know, some of the mechas of comedy, they already have their infrastructure built. In North Carolina, we were kind of responsible for building the infrastructure that exists there now in regards to comedy and people understanding that there's talent dead. So doing open mics, doing open mics, and you know, just going to do whatever I can do.

And we ended up starting a group called the Freestyle Funny Comedy Show, which I have on my Chaine, myself, Durren Brand during Big Baby Brand who's also cast Memmon wilding Out was a cast Memon wild'n Out, beat Out who was a casman Moon wild'n Out, my boy Burpie who works radio at Charlotte Now, and my boy Drink who also works radio, and beat Out works one or

two jams too. So we got together in two thousand and nine, at end of two thousand and nine, going in twenty ten and started this you know, Freestyle Funny Comedy troupe. And then and we got to hustling as a unit, you know, going to different conventions, getting booked for colleges and doing our own show every third Sunday of the month, and just hustling, you know, I mean,

building a repertoire of understanding the game. Even though it wasn't somewhere where it was necessarily respected, we still were getting our rounds in.

was just couple of people when it first started. We saw that people cared about what we were doing enough to come back again. So I think that's what made us have the motivation to do it there. But as far as what gave us the motivation to want to be comics, that comes from just all different places. Like I look up to so many different guys. I've always been a fan of comedy, but I never grew up like I'm gonna be a comedian, you know, that was

never something that I thought that I would do. But I've been a student of the game just because you know, I was influenced by the people around me, and they watched Deaf Comedy jam My mama had all the tapes, and you know, my uncles and them used to you know, the most influential comedian to me is Earthquake, because that's who I saw the people who I looked up to laughing at all the time. It's Comedy Central days, all

of that. So I remember we all watched Comedy Central and you know, watching Duvall do the remix of the and I know, did my seem strange? And all that. The Chappelle Show and all of these different influences from when I was young played in to my influence once I started being a comedian, and I realized, oh, I already got this bank of information and material that I've

been influenced by. Now I need to go back and watch it and analyze it and see what I can learn and see how I can become better, and see what I can pick up and the rules of the game. I read books, I did everything that I can do to try to build my wealth of information and wealth of knowledge in regards to the game, so I wouldn't just be coming in thinking that my talent was just enough. Yeah.

that early. So I knew what both of those were and how to and I just started to teach myself

how to learn from both. So it's all just how you take in whatever it is it is that you're doing, you know what I'm saying, Like, especially with comedy because it's when you're doing stand up, you stand, it's just you flat foot with a microphone and your perspective being projected out into a room full of people, and hopefully your perspective can touch whatever it is that they got going on something that they may you know, be going through with something that they may you know, be ashamed of,

and then then thought they were going through a loan and then they hear you talk about it, it's like, oh, so you pick up those things through experience. So I just think it's just you doing it that gets you to the point where you feel like I'm good at.

you got to study your craft. And it's like it reminds me of like a boxer, like you know what I mean, Like Floyd is somebody like they watch hours of tape, so people, Mike Troy said, they might not consider like that you're watching literally your out, you're watching other comedians like watching tape for you know, like if you athlete and just explain to people how hard it is to do stand up because I always hear comedians saying like stand up is the hard because like I

guess there's like comedians that are crazy funny, but they can't do stand up like every just because you're a funny comedian doesn't mean you can do stand up Like. That's like public speaking is already the biggest fear for most people. Not only are you speaking publicly, but you got to actually try to make people laugh, which isn't easy to do, like and you like on an island by yourself. So like, how is that like nerve rap? Like how is the vibe on telling stand up jokes?

what I mean. But at the beginning, it causes you to be you have to continuously, continuously write. And I think what makes it so difficult is because people don't know how to tap into what it is that they're going through and make it relatable. Like anybody can get on stage and tell a funny story, but how does this funny story tie into something that you've been through?

How does what I'm talking about register into some experience that might be completely different in regards to, you know, logistics, but the same in regards to the overall aspect of what happened. Like that's the difficulty of it, because if I'm sitting here saying, uh, Mike neck loose on his T shirt, Like Mike got the loose neck on his T shirt, Like it's you've probably had loose necks on your T shirt before, But how am I gonna make this situation relate to when you had your loose neck

and you had one, you know what I mean? Like all of that counts. So I mean, I'm not come on, Mike, I'm just using Mike is my man. Mike already left our podcast and just talking about his polo shirt, so I would just using you see how I tied it back in the shirts and the mic and there you go.

recipe right, it's going to hit every time. And for us, it's a natural synergy, like we kind of speak without speaking. I can look at Loos and know Los can look at Fly and no Fly can look at me and no without us having to say anything. So for us to be able to explain it, it's kind of difficult because it's really never been done before in that capacity.

Like I don't know why, but you've never really seen three guys who could go and do their own or three stars caught up whatever you want to call it, be on stage at the same time and share that moment and be able to make it work. So there was really no blueprint for that for real for us, so we kind of created it. So it's really nothing for us to practice because we're doing our shit, Like and if we was to get up there and try to do you know, somebody else's then that might require

some rehearsal because it's not natural. But what we do is so natural that we don't have to really speak about anything. We get up and we go. You know what I'm saying, if you watch them clips and it's still be amazing to us when we watch them back, because I'll say something like it was a clip we just put out from the Savannah show a couple of weeks ago, and Los has said something and I say, yeah, that shit sounded like make you happy, like a Disney song.

And then Los immediately started singing a Disney song and we went into a Disney routine about getting our dig suck, which respectfully with respectfully, I ain't never had a disrespectful dick suck, but I don't know if I would turn

one down either the side. No, this is not that type of podcast, but anyway, you know what I mean, I don't want, like I said, I do not want to mess up, and I'm not trying to be the person to come up here and switch your routine around, you know that type of stuff, Like you can't think of that, Like nobody would sit around and be like, hey, bro, let's make up a Disney song about getting our digs up and if you do, if you do, like it's just something that you laugh at in the moment, like

that's crazy, but you're not gonna do it. We were able to do it by just talking, you know what I mean. So it's just a it's a level of synergy and magic that happens that really none of us can't explain or even care to explain. We just blessed that God chose us to be the guys that present that to the world.

this show. We're gonna do this now. We all have things that are interesting and entertaining to us individually that we all present, you know what I mean, Like I love the culture, different places and music and and fly just is wild and just know all the wild shit and loss. Just the nigga that just has all of the information like a wealth bank of just shit that you wouldn't think that the nigga would ever have experienced that he can just call to and know it like

it just happened yesterday. You know, all of those things and things that we're all great at and we all keep those elements involved when we're doing the show. But it's never something that's practiced or rehearsed. It's just we get up there and we do what we do. So let's go back to North Carolina, right small place.

She was like his assistant at a time, and we were cool in school and she was working with him and Nick started, you know, he was doing the radio show up in New York and he was doing fresh Faces of comedy, like when he was just doing a comedy night in Gotham in New York and he was just presenting new comedians with her having that relationship and

knowing what we were doing. She's from North Carolina and you know, went to Winston Salem State with us and knowing that we were down there, you know, creating what we were creating, and she was like, it would be dope if you guys was to come up and do the show. And I went up in the end of twenty ten and did the show. And that was my first time meeting Nick. And when I got to the comedy club, and this is Gotham, this is one of

the big comedy clubs. This is like one of the New York you know what I mean, It's the mecca so when I went to the guy who owned the club, was like, yeah, I don't know who you are, so you can't curse, can't say the N word, can't talk about sex and all this, And I'm at that point, that's all I was talking about. So me being the person that I am, like, I've never really written jokes down. I'll just walk around and talk to myself and get

it together. So I was outside walking around talking to myself and Nick pulled up and seen me outside walking and talking to myself. To mind you, we in New York, so that's normal every day New York, so you know everybody, yeah, walk past you. Just so I'm out there just walking in circles talking to myself and he pulls up and sees it. And I didn't even know that he saw me.

But when I went on stage, I did my set about that day, Like I had to ride the bus from LaGuardia to my hotel and I had to get on the bus like the city bus, you know what I mean. And I got on the bus in Queens and the first thing I said on stage was like, man, y'all need to start changing the names of shit around here. Because I got on the bus and queens and the Queen is the last thing I saw on that, but it was, and it just I didn't Occupy Wall Street was going on, and I told a joke about Occupy

Wall Street. I was like, I can't go down there. I'll be wasting the people's time because they down there worrying about the way that Wall Street is, you know, robbing and pillaging and taking away from the American people. I'm down there with a sign that says we should be able to get changed out of ATM machines. You know what I'm saying, Like you don't always need twenty dollars. Sometimes you just need a dollar eighty seven cent, Like I shouldn't have to risk on you thirty bucks when

I only need a dollar eighty seven. So I'm doing all of that on stage, and when you know, I ended up killing And when I came off stage, Nick stopped me and was like, Yo, bro, did you just was you just outside making all that shit up? I was like yeah. He was like, man, I'm around some of the best in the game. They can't do what you just did. Keep working. So that was my first introduction to the shot. Fast forward a couple of years later, I see a tweet that Nick says, I'm looking for

new talent. I'm bringing wild'n out back. So I immediately hit Dolly like yo, this is real and she was like yeah. I said, well just let me know whatever that is I need to do, you know what I mean? And Nick had a syndication, I believe, at a radio station in North Carolina and Charlotte. So he decided to do an audition to promote the radio show. And you know, in conjunction with you know, him being having family ties in North Carolina, he decided to do one in Charlotte.

So me and my got beat at, got my Saturn View and drove Yah. Yeah, my Saturn they don't but they they they motherfuckers from another planet. That got it. That got me the where I go. So, uh we drove my Saturn View to the audition. I did the audition and Nick remember me. He was like, yeah, I remember you, man, I remember you, the cat from Gotham. Man. You know what I'm saying. You did your thing. And I went in and did the audition and killed the audition,

and uh, that's really where it started right there. So it came from me being in North Carolina and having relationships with somebody who also was from North Carolina who came up to New York and started to establish her own you know, legacy and everything, and it just kind of fell into place, you know, that that organic thing that the universe does when when you make the right decisions and follow the dreams that you're supposed to follow.

because he's our elder in regards to comedy. He's been doing it longer than me and Fly, and he just has an understanding of the game, you know what I mean, because he didn't been in the trenches with it, and he comes from Atlanta, where, like I said, there was already infrastructure set up, so he knew certain elements of the game and knew that, ay man, we gotta we gotta you know, something gotta share, we gotta do something

that's ours, we gotta do something for us. So it was always something that he was talking about doing, and we have conversation. That's something that we do all the time. We just build and build because conversation is is so important and that's something that a lot of us as black men take for granted, like that you to be illegal for a group of niggas to stand around and talk to each other, that you can't do that and

share information. So we take pride in that. So we always building and talking about the things that we can and will do. Even within us starting to make history within the space of out, wild'n Out, we still were like, you know, what else can we do? So once it kicked off, it was just really loose knowing that with him having the foresight to know that, man, we got something different. So we got to figure out a platform that we can be who we want to be all

the time. Because we can be who we want to be on wilding Out, But there's still a you know, terms and conditions that have to be followed in and a structure that has to be followed that was created before you, and out of respect for the culture and everything that goes along with it, you got to follow that. You can break out of it here and there, and those moments, you know, create historic moments. But at the end of the day, it's still a functional structure that

you have to follow. With us, we wanted to be able to do whatever we wanted to do whenever we wanted to do it, however we wanted to do it, And that's really where it came from. If it came from us being on Wilding Out and then realizing that this is a springboard. It's giving us a light, it's putting a light on us. So now people are looking at us. So what can we give people now that the light is on us? So I think was just we give them everything. There's a lot of cast members

from Wilding Out. What was it about y'all three that made y'all click up and say we can do this together? Not to say that the other other cast members couldn't have, but there's something special about the three of y'all. What wasn't that excluded the others out? Well, I wouldn't even say it was exclusion. Really, me and Los met before, way before wild'n Out, Like we met at a college show at Winster Selton State while I went to school.

We were doing the FFCS and he came down with Zuman Miller and did a set and we met there. And then when we ended up doing an audition in New York for wild'n Out, I didn't know anybody, you know what I mean, It was a bunch of people there. But then he walked in and we saw each other, and then from that moment we didn't been clicked up,

you know what I'm saying. And then Fly came in a couple of years later, but Fly just was like us, you know what I'm saying, Like we have a certain type of energy and a certain way we conduct ourselves that he just was built for, you know what I'm saying. Like, So when it got started, it got started in Atlanta, would originally you know, Flying Lows Bend as though they was located in Atlanta, and then me just being tied

into what we already was doing. It was like I was calling in on the phone while I'm doing my FFCS shows, and in North Carolina, I'm calling it on the phone while they recording mad because they won't let me know what the studio is, you know what I mean, Like those type of things we were doing just to get the you know, just using all of that energy that we had that we were in the process of creating to build this up, you know what I mean, no matter where how we can do it, whatever we

needed to do, we were going to do. So it really wasn't even an exclusion of anybody else. It was just that we all ready were clicked up. We already were you know, had a brother relationship, and then when it started to and we're all fans of each other. That's another big thing, you know, not that we're not fans of the other cast members on wild'n Out, because we definitely are, but we're all genuinely fans of each other. And in the eighty five South show is just a

reflection of the ship that we would do anyway. We would be doing and talking these conversations and tripping and having fun when it's just us. So why not, you know, turn some cameras on and let the world see it, you know what I mean. So that's pretty much where it came from. It was just, you know, like I said, this a natural synergy and we always at this point we genuinely love each other like we brothers, so's it

makes it easy. One of the things that I've learned about the comedy game is like a lot of niggas don't fuck with each other. You know, they don't have real relationships because comedy, like I said, it's an individual sport. It's like everybody want to be the guy, want to be the star. So it's very seldom that you That's probably why you've never seen our format done before, because it's like everybody wants to be somebody got to be

the guy, you know what I mean. And for us, it was just that of understanding, Like, bro, I don't all of us had a perspective that we know what this do. But I know I think about it like I don't care what you have. It doesn't matter what you have. There is nobody on the planet that has for me. What's for me is for me. And if I can get with for me while you get with for you at the same time, then brother, that's dope. We're good, you know what I mean. So that's always

been our perspective. We don't care nothing about the way things supposed to go. We're gonna do what we want to do. That was the point of starting this shit in the first place, for us to be able to do whatever we wanted to do.

And it's like, you know, for you guys to actually do that, it's dope because it's like you said, you could have started your own thing, yeah, and had you do this and low stud that and DC just do that. Y'all still have your individual brands, but it's like together like the vult.

biggest weapon that's been used against our people. In my opinion, it's the information that we've been denied and that has been you know, kept away from us to where we don't even have the mind state and a lot of as a whole to even know where to go to get it. That's why y'all are so dope because this is not something that is being taught in the homes in schools. So where do we go to get this information?

And it's the same way what we do. Like what we do is showing that man, it don't matter where you're from, what your background is, what street you from, what city you from, what your background is, you can build with your brothers, you know what I mean, And you can build a legacy while doing it. You can do something great. Don't be afraid to know rock with somebody and mind you, there's certain you know, protocols that need to be taken. You got to have a certain

character and moral and principle. But that's just in life. So if you see somebody and they possess the morals and principles and characteristics that you respect and vice versa, then it's no need for y'all to ever feel like you can't coexist and build something together, because that's what we've been lacking. You know what I mean. You just seen the video that for Real and jay Z put out and yeah, and just seeing all of the camaraderie.

But in my mind, what linked all of that up is that all of these people that are black somehow came together. You know what I mean to make whatever happen happen. And then now you see it in the video, like you see how it all ties back in. But somebody gotta be unafraid to rock with their brother. Now. Mind you, it's a bunch of hard stories, and there always will be. That's never gonna stop. It's always gonna be. For every one success, you're gonna have three hundred. Man,

that nigga took all my goddamn money. Man, you know what I mean. I thought Mike was cool, man, I thought I could trust him. Then he came in with a regular size call, and then I knew shit was fucked up. So it's always those stories that come. But you it's all in Life is about perspective and perception. So it's all in how you view it. If you choose to focus on the messed up stuff, that's what

you're going to project into your world. If you choose to focus on the winning and set your mind and negate all of the you know, blott of that comes into your mind, and you'll be able to make some cool stuff happen.

of stories like Kevin Garnett sueing his financial advisors. So it's like, you know, a lot of times sports entertainment, we just taught to just perform and not deal with the business.

in his mind. And you need that. You need that because if somebody is dedicated to a goal, and we all supposed to be dedicated to that goal, I should be able to send you into the room and everything that's in my mind out here is being transferred in there.

And Chad, you know, he does that. So that kept us away from a lot of the mind you we've been through some financial goals in regards to dealing with people who didn't have that mind state, but we always knew that the common goal was the common goal and keeping that and going through those ups and downs and learning dealing with different promoters and not getting paid and trying to figure out how to split the disc that

way and all of those different things. Uh, you know, can be problems problematic if you're not if you don't have transparency. Transparency is key, you know, everybody not gonna have the answers all the time, but I should be able to look you in your face and say I don't know, and let's figure it out. But if I'm trying to trick you into believing I got all the answers, that's what shit gets messed.

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and we're gonna make it work. So I think that saved us from a lot of people being able to take advantage of us because and another thing is, we're not looking to fulfill your dreams. Were looking to fulfill lives. So you can't come in and tell us what you got for us if it don't match what we want

for us. And that's so important because a lot of people don't have what they want mapped out, you know what I'm saying, or what the bottom line is mapped out, so they'll go in and get sold to somebody else's dream, this big dream of how things are supposed to be and this and that and all these different, you know, glamorous lies that they tell you, when in reality, if you got your own goal in mind, you should be able to walk into a room and say, this is

what we have, what do you have? And how can we merge this together and make it bigger? If not, we'll just keep doing what we're doing over here, because we already got it in order, and we don't need you to come in and add your flavor because the kool aid already got enough sugar water and everything. Over here. We're not trying to get the kool Aid flavor able

to taste different. We're just trying to get it shipped to some places that we might not have been able to get to because we don't have the infrastructure of connections that you have. But as far as us, that transparency is so key that we know we got the recipe. At the end of the day, the recipe is the recipe. We built that up. So anybody who doesn't fall in line with that, you know what I mean, God bless you.

But we're gonna keep working the way we're working and then whatever comes of that will we'll be able to stand on it and be cool with it. So how's that work. Are y'all still involved with wowing Out?

some of that. Don't nobody know you if it wasn't for me, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not, it's not you know, he don't. He didn't run his situation like dollar Bill ran the Players Club, Like it wasn't that. So we were able to do everything that we were able to do while Wilder and I was still running, and we were going to continue to be able to do it if it was still running.

So for for like up and coming comedians, is it just because it's like before I guess you had to go through like Saturn Nite Live or Death Comedy Jam or it's like I feel like you had to be on television, but now you got YouTube, but y'all be in like a million use on average on your YouTube. And it's like comedians is getting hot on Instagram. There's a bunch of Instagram comedians shiggy.

just the way it works. It's no different than when you was able to walk through the airport without going through getting button neckerd damn near to get on a plane. That existed at a point, but then something happened and it wasn't like that no more. So. It's the same way the Internet came and it changed the format of how entertainment is consumed. The average attention span is between fifteen and sixty seconds now, where before it was thirty minutes.

We grew up in increments of thirty minutes, Like you would sit down for thirty minutes and watch Martin and commercials and you know what I mean, Like it just the way. It's all in how you consume information. And eventually this will be outdated and it'll be something else. So it's just the transition. Now. The hard part is when you come from a certain time and then you

have to transition with the change. That can become difficult for a lot of people because a lot of guys, a lot of the older guys don't have any respect for the Instagram comedians because they started on their phone. Like getting hot on your phone is easy. Like if it's easy, you should be able to do it because it's clear you funny, you've been doing stand up killing on stages for twenty years. Why can't you do the same thing on here? Because it's the grind is the grind.

You can't cheat the game. You're gonna have to figure it out now, mind you. There's you know, intricacies in regards to comedy, because stand up comedy is an everlasting art form. It's never gonna go anywhere. People are always gonna want to see. It's one of the oldest you know, the court just and all of that, and the you know, village, idiot, whatever you want to call it. It's always been there. Just like music, It's one of those things that will

always be around. So somebody's gonna figure out a way to get it out there so it can be consumed. And if you can figure out a way to do that within the structure of how it works at that time,

then you're good. So at that time when it was Saturday Light Live and Death Comedy Jam, that was the grind, the grind was going and doing a hundred dates until Somebody See You and all of that now is getting a million views on the video, getting the shade room to post, you getting the you know a world star whatever. I mean, not for getting knocked out, but you know,

just just any platform that did. Because I don't just want to say that and be like Nigga, all I gotta do is you know a world star, bro, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna go knock somebody out today. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying any platform that has, you know, became large within the structure of the way information and content is consumed now with the fifteen to sixty second model, if you can get on and put on through there, or get somebody who's popping on here

to post you or show you some love. That's just as difficult as it was to to get on, but it just happens a lot faster, you know what I mean. It's just as difficult to make it happen, but once it happens. Now, you know, if you got on Death Comedy Jam, you had to wait for the shit to get filmed. Then you had to just like when Wilder'nout came on. We shot the first season of wild'n Out

in January. It didn't come on till July, so that whole time we didn't did all this promo saying we're gonna be on TV, and then people are like, nig you sure you gonna tell you not to trust that. We don't know, So we didn't know until it came on, so that that gratification took a long time. And that's the old model, you know what I mean. You get on TV and then it ain't came on until it came on. Until you see it on the TV, it

ain't edge yet. So there's still a chance that until you see it come on that screen, that it won't happen With this is instant. Oh man, such and such as posted my video. There's no way you can deny that it's right there. So it's just that when it happens, it goes a lot faster, but it's still just as difficult to get going as it was back then.

Oh my god, Oh my god, I'm talking about I mean, listen, if you think the neck on his T shirt is loose, our jaws was like, hall my god, because we had what you liked and fifty dates, just eighty five dates all sold out, just fifty dates, Like you know what I mean that we already had not including our own individual stand up dates like I went. I did my last live show March eighth in Nashville and they had

just had a tornado come. So I did you know a bunch of giveback for the people in Nashville because they, you know, a lot of us were affected by that tornado. I flew to La. I was supposed to have a couple of meetings. Both the meetings got canceled because stuff was shutting down. This when they was acting like LA was like ground zero when it first kicked off. So I catch a red eye from LA back to Charlotte. By the time I landed from LA to Charlotte, all

my shows was canceled or postponed through August. This is March, so just like that, And that comes from you know, I think that that is another blessing, just of having some sort of financial literacy and understanding. Like me, I'm so good with opinions and not caring about what people think about me. I lived in my college apartment for four seasons of me being on TV and didn't cares drove the sad of view until it just was like,

br come on, but I'm done. It's old with I had three hundred thousand miles on that car when I traded it in three hundred. Well, yeah, if that's what you want to call it, like that, that's what you want to call it. Honestly, when I tell you that story, like when when I when I went to trade it in,

I ended up getting a Cadillac. That was the first car got after I. After I traded it in and I went to trade it in and dude went in, you know, they sold me my car, came back out and was like, hey, man, you can't find nobody you can bless with this. Man, all I'm gonna be able to give you is five for it. I'm like five hundred. He was like, Nah, a five, bro, that's all I was able to give you for it. It was like that. But that's the thing, like I was cool with that.

I was cool with that. I was just like, you know what, it's whatever you want to do, whatever you can get me for it, give it to me, even if it's just pay for my tag. That's what my sad review did pay for my tags on my Cadillac. But it got me to a point where and by the time I got the Cadillac, I could a guy in it three Because that's just my financial model that just comes from where I come from the way I was taught. Don't buy nothing unless you can buy it

three times. If you can't buy it three times in full cash, you can't afford it. That's just the way I was taught. So I stayed in my college department, paying five hundred dollars a month and just save money and didn't care that people were like, how you on TV? Still living here? I'm like, how you living here? In my business? Care what you think? You know what I mean? And I didn't move until it got to a point where it was just like my fame reached the level

to where I can't be over here. It became a liability, you know what I mean. It was an asset. At first, it was an asset. Being able to write it was an ass Yeah. Yeah, it was an asset at first when I was still building it up. But then when it started to you know, I started to get that recognition. And I'm coming in from off a road trip two three o'clock in the morning and the niggas is coming out of the house. I told you live around here, keep my money. It's like, all right, it's time to

move now. And I didn't until then. So just having that model, that personal business model that I always had has saved me during this time, because if I didn't have that mentality and I was, you know, just one of them guys that had to meet the expectation, keep up with the Joneses, as they say, meet the expectations of societal norms for somebody who's made it, then I would be sick right now because that means I have been trying to impress people who don't really care about

what I got going on. And because I had the opposite of that. Now, even though all of this money that we've lost or that was left on the table, because you can't lose what you never had, but the money that was left on the table, it's like we can really get motivated by that, Like bruh, we had the potential to do this, then that means we got the potential to do triple this, you know what I mean.

And that's what COVID really has taught us. It's like we got the potential to really go even further than what it is that we would and in fifty like now we realize we could have had one hundred dates. You know what I'm saying we could have had a hundred. So it's like it opened my eyes to you know, cause it's a lot of people who are not gonna come out of this. This is the shift. Twenty twenty is the shift. The shift is happening. If you're confused

about it, don't be. The shift is happening. The things that were normal and that were on top and that was cool before, it's not going to be that way

after this is all over. Because you can just see the way the world works, how things that we never thought could be taken away were stripped this year, like stuff that you I mean, the NBA got canceled for a minute, and school that they got furloughed from school, like I didn't even think that was possible, Like things if somebody would have showed you a list of happenings in twenty twenty in December of twenty nineteen, you the thought, man, get your fuck out of here, and they get out

of here. What you're smoking? You know what I mean, that's impossible. It's not possible. So the fact that all of those things have happened this year shows you that you're not in control of the stuff that you try to control. You're only in control of what you can control. And when you realize that, you get to the point of no matter what we lost, we wasn't that wasn't that didn't define who we were. That was just a process of what we were. This was a result of

us being who we are. So therefore we got just as much now even though the world has shifted, we have just as much power to move with the shift as anything else, just like the world wonna move with the shifts. That's the reason why my head is like this, like why I got corn rolls now, because it's just idea, it's just it just it just is its representative of I'm not restrict to what your image of me is.

I'm not I'll never be restricted to what anybody's image of me is because when I look in the mirror, I love what I see, no matter what fact. And that's what is going on in twenty twenty now, Like we've all been restricted to the things that were stripped of us this year. Everybody, like to the point where.

be the same dude all the time. And there's a twenty twenty teaches you the importance of having that characteristic because what you allow to change your you know, natural being and who you are determines who you are because the things that can come in and affect you like you know being Like you know what I'm saying, I've been picking on Mike the whole time, and I can see him adjusting his collar, but you keep putting it over your mouth, Slim, That's what's causing it to be

stretched out. But you know what, who cares As long as he cool with the fact that he got a V neck, regular neck, that's all that matters. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I'm teasing, but the reality is I'm using that as an analogy, just to show you how simplistic it can be. Anything that you allow to change your perspective on who you are as a person will damage everything else that

you have going on. So all of us, one thing I would say about all of us is involved in our family is we're all who we are one hundred percent. Ain't nobody pretending to be anything that they're not. And I think that's going to push us way further than any amount of shows or anything, because the consistency and the realism that you see and you feel you can't fake that, and that you know can't. You can't put a price on it. There is no value to that

because you see so little of it. And especially in this industry, people all do and say whatever it takes to be wherever they feel like it's going down at. And you know, when you get to a point where you're sending somebody into a room to negotiate for you or negotiate on your behalf, and you know, I ain't not gonna be able to convince Chad to do shit. This nigga don't even like to smile all the way

like he gotta have smile. So yeah, like I was saying, we're gonna we were really thinking about doing it this way. I heard what you said, but okay, like I was saying, though, like that's you can't buy that, you know what I mean? So I think that's what what what keeps us from being, you know, in a situation like a lot of people that you see and a lot of entertainers are now like, you know, what what am I gonna do? Because a

lot of people have been living check to check. You gonna live check to check no matter how big the check is, matter how much you may live check to check, no matter how big the check is. So you know, we just have a different perspective all the way around. Like our business model is completely different. That's why you see us affect the world the way that we have because all the way from the performance aspect to the you know, the boardroom aspect, it's all completely unique to us.

And even if it goes back to when it goes back to whatever it goes to, that time is more valuable than anything that I could have gave her monetary, you know what I'm saying. And she understands what I do. Like the first five years of her life, I was present, you know. I was in North Carolina, she was there, you know what I mean, back and forth to DC. I was able to be there for those formative years.

And then she got six on up to this year, I didn't been just and I stop in, you know what I mean, make sure everything good, everybody good, everybody ate, ain't nobody feet dirty? All right? We good? You know? And then I would always take her and her friends on a trip for a birthday. You know, we would go some we've been at you know, Miami and you know, Disneyland last year, just to show them, like, because I know the way that they understand the world. It's like,

this is why I'm gone so much. I know it doesn't make up for the time, but I still want you to understand that me being able to do this is a result of me being on the road and doing all of this all that, and not only do I want you to be able to benefit from it, I want your friends and you and your close family to be able to benefit from it too, because as y'all grow, I want you to understand the importance of being able to share in success and share in things

that you know. You don't have to feel like, oh it's something good, mind, you know what I mean. I want you to have the responsibility of knowing that because you are my child, and because I have the perspective that I have, it's gonna garner you a different responsibility. So I want you to start learning that responsibility as early as possible. So that's why I make sure I take her friends with her so she can know like,

it's not just it's about you. But it's not just about you, because as you grow older, you're going to have a greater responsibility than a lot of people around you because they haven't been as blessed as you are. Because I was one of those people that at a certain point in time and I had to create the blueprint, and luckily for you, I'm creating one that you can follow. But your friends might not have anybody around them that

can do that for them. So they can follow yours because they've been around it the whole time and they know it's real.

they become accustomed, you know, and used to it. And one of the things that the main thing that I take from all of this happening is as much ship as people have talked about Nick over the years, when you see how much power he has in creating the stars that he's created and creating a platform that he created, Like, how do we not understand that it's just as important for all of us to carry that same mind state, you know what I mean? Like it sucks, Like if I would did I did? I wanted that to be

the way that it was going to end. No, I wanted us to go out in Vegas.

by this show. It's so many people that came from that show, so many opportunities that were created from that show. We haven't been addressed at all. So as as a cast, none of that, we haven't been addressed at all. So I don't even feel comfortable giving an opinion until we're addressed in some way because obviously my opinion doesn't count that much because if it did, then we would have been addressed publicly in some way, shape or form canceled. And I don't know nothing was said. I just know

the shit don't come on no more. That's all I know. When I turn on TV on the days that it's supposed to come on, it's not. And that's all I know.

presented it. It was like Nick and Viacoma getting the divorce, and it's kind of like the cast as the kids they got to stay out of grown folk business and at that and at this point, I'm staying out of grown folk business, you know what I mean. And I'm gonna leave it at that because I know how much that space not only means to us, but it means to us. When I say us, I mean us, that's our in Living Color. I was just thinking that, you know what I mean, that's our generations in Living Car,

that's our generator. That's a black show that was you know what I mean, employee, black people had a black show runner, black executive producers, black people who I mean all the way down to the people who drove the vans from the hotel to set every day. A lot of these people went on to start their own media companies and all of that, Like this is a this is a structural platform that worked for us. So until us is addressed, then I don't know what the hell is going on. I just know I lost my job

while I wasn't working it. I got fired on my day off, not even on my day off. The COVID cut everybody off. And then it's just like we just was like, oh, it's over over, over over over okay, like ever ever it was over over, So it's you know what I mean. I just you know, I'm just thankful. I'm thankful for the opportunities that Nick has provided for us, all of us are. And you know, as far as him personally, man Nick a big boy man, he'll be all right, you know what I mean. That's what I know.

I hadn't seen that dude do all types of magical stuff. He'll be straight. But as far as but wild'n out is and all of us, you know what I mean, Like, I think that there should be more of an appreciation for what that space has brought to us as a people, you know what I mean? Regardless of whether or not how you feel about what happened, you know what I mean? And obviously Nick has apologized for what he said, so you know what I mean, it's nothing more to discussing

that regard. He's doing what he's supposed to do directify that situation. But there's a whole group of people who are affected by this who haven't even been said hey, man, appreciate y'all or anything. And that doesn't just go for our generation. I'm talking about from the guys that were superstars that came from the show before we got on it. None of that has been addressed. So I mean until then, you know, don't I don't know how they feel about us.

And that's how it started. Really didn't have any real information on like you know, the depth and wealth of information that you guys have, But it was just, you know, I go to the you know, it's it's a Shell gas station by my house that I get all my gas from. So I bought Shell, Nike or some Nike because I'm you know, all that stuff that I used, Apple, Netflix and Disney, you know what I mean, Facebook, all of that. All of that was what I started with. And then it just, you know, I started to get

a little bit more in tune with it. I'm never mind you I would be lying to you if I said that I was as in tune and interested as I am. After talking to you guys, because you know that night, I was like, man, give me ship. Did you did you take the advice that night?

too big to have a conversation. That's that's a value. And what you guys are providing in regards to information, especially for black people is necessary because that's not something that I ever was taught in my life. I know how to go get some money out the street, but I don't know how to go get some money off of Wall Street, you know what I mean. And that's

something that we need to be taught. So, you know, salute to you guys, man for what you guys do, because it's so much information that's that's being skipped over. We're being gipt over in a lot of ways. And now we got somebody that's of our culture and of our background that takes value and teaching us this information. And even though I got started by just having that conversation that we had, this is no different than that, you know what I mean, That's all it is. I'm

big on that. Man. We gotta we gotta as black people, we gotta start knowing that man, we not I'm not just not the enemy. And it's gonna take some time because we didn't done so much damage in the process of having a different perspective. But bro, it's we gotta communicate. It's some game out here, you know what I mean.

When we was hearing of Wall Street trapper talking about how a white man in jail taught him about white collar you know what he was doing in the white collar side of the game, and he got all these millions of dollars and only got eighteen months with I got a cousin doing thirty five years for a pistol and some dope. It's like he did not have anywhere near a million dollars worth of pistols of dope. He didn't have fifteen to sixteen hundred dollars worth of pistols

of dope. But he's in jail for thirty years. So it's like it's a different it's a side of the game that we can get on. Playing the wrong game, Yeah, playing the wrong game man, and salute to you brothers for teaching that the game could be played by us on the other side. Man, because that information is very necessary, and I'm very thankful that you guys wanted to rock with us and are willing to share the information that you should.

you had a multi color. You don't got them all. Man, it's an outlet somewhere. It's an outlet mall somewhere. There's an outlet mall somewhere with all the big polos that you don't got. Embrace it. And we're gonna matter of fact, man, you could do a shoot. We're gonna cover your face up because they don't what you look like. It'll just be meet with Rag and you with the big polo horse. Did you say what not? Who is they? I know they don't they don't. I do, I do everything, Mike.

Mike is unique. Man. Mike looked like he was supposed to have been in Charlamar, but he started eating too much like you. I don't know if you know who Charlama is. Charlamar is a group from the eighties where all the lights can do. I'm giving too much away. You can't loose neck, and they're gonna find you. They gonna find them then if they see the loser neck analys and I knew that with you, Mike.

auto Vice City, I give you. Yeah, you know you wasn't good. It was good whitey man wear your white jeans and a big polo, and we're gonna do like a boat party, like a tom joined. A cruise hosted by Mike might be Mike cruise where you gotta wear big polos and white jeans and John Clinton. Oh yeah, and then stretch the neck out on the T shirts a little bit. You look like he's been in the domestic dispute. That's you know what your neck wor your T shirt looked like after you've been in the domestic

your officer. First of all, let me tell you, first of all, you can tell from the look at my neck, yo, you can tell that's you know, that's.

IDEA hashtag might be my hashtag might be Mike. Might like that. It might be might be it might be Mike. I really like that. I really like that. Trade my man. That's right. It's cool, y'all. And gave me some stock information. I give you that. Yeah, we're trading this.

the works, man, a lot of big stuff we're working on. Man. So we just want to say thank you to all the supporters and all the people who might not be supporters, who are supporters of these good brothers. Make sure you know we do all of that. They didn't came and did our show. We came and did this and it's going to continue to go like that because we both feel like we're giving our information that's necessity. That's a

necessity rather to all the good people who are watching. So, man, thank you and just make sure you stay tuned.

it happen. So shout out to him, manh yeah, because he just did it out of love.

the community kind of runs it. So shout to order and shout everybody's misappointing to merge. Like I said, we got some limited stuff that's on the way, so be on the lookout for that.

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