EYL #106 The Revolution feat. Killer Mike

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All right, guys, welcome back e y l Atlanta edition. You know this is we say our second home, but it really feels like our first home.

Everything we've been doing live has been here.

Yeah, we get so much love out here. We really gotta buy some real estate out here.

And now that's next. That's next for real. So, you know, a few episodes.

I'm always excited about every single episode that we do, but a few episodes is really really exciting for us. Shout out the Day, man, that was a bucket list situation. He was every he was everything that we thought he was gonna be. Yeah, that's the first thing they asked. How was he everything we expected?

As the fact, Shout the Day.

And it's been so many other great people that we had the opportunity to interview, but this is right at the top of my list personally your as well.

Choice.

So, you know, killing like somebody that we just admired for a long time and obviously one of the dopest rattlers, but I feel like everything that he's done outside of music has even surpassed his musical career as far as is you know, advocacy, politics, business.

Been activist since fifteen.

Man, it's long, it's dope, it's dope. So, you know, this is something that we was looking forward to for a long time. And I had actually DMed him a while ago, a while ago, a while long't even know if he actually saw it, but the boss bosses got yeah, yeah, yeah, Ak and Nundre. It's just just just a bright light. If you're not following her, you need to follow her on Instagram. That's her Instagram handle and she she's just been amazing for us, just the resources just pouring into us.

We had a big announcement last week and I.

Was actually in a barber shop ironically enough, so I'm like, let's set it up. And we set it up and we was here for about ten days and every day it was not kill a flight schedule. I'm like, I'm working on our cinema text Like, yo, bro, like you got six more days, five more days. I told I told my man swing and that we was talking, and I'm like, nah, you know, he gave me his word, And just by speaking to him, I could tell that

Even if we left, we was coming back. Yeah, We're gonna keep coming to Atlanta until we get him.

Yeah. So this is our last night in Atlanta, and this is a nightcap edition. Man out here at eight o'clock at night, and we're going to interview the legendary killing Mike. So first and foremo, thank you for joining us, Thank you for cracing our platform. We appreciate it. Thank you for opening up your shout man Man, thank you man. This is Slagship Store slag Shot, and we're just glad to have you. So I'm sure we're gonna talk about Yeah, So we got so much stuff to talk about, man,

You came to stigure out my church man, come off.

But he's been my friend and mentor since fifteen years old and actually is a part of me growing me as an organizer. Andy doesn't do things for financially motivated reasons, yet they end up helping the greater community financially. So one example is as mayor of Atlanta, he was responsible for making Atlanta international city by bringing the Olympics here and bringing the Olympics. He didn't bring a bunch of people to just ran, swim and jump that spoke different languages.

Start.

So as Andy does stuff, he does stuff that helps the greater community, and the greater community is better for us.

Right.

So Atlanta is a lot years ahead. It's a beacon in the South, it's an international city with all this proclivities and on all this is it's set back. It's still is far more progressive than anyone would have ever thought. Fifty years as all right, he goes to India, he sees where people being paid in payper currency, same thing that's happening in depressed areas here. They're being robbed and looted by check cashing places essentially. So you're already on

But some people have been dedicated, like our grandparents, enough to do.

It, to put aside that twenty and let that twenty get to one hundred, and put that aside and make sure you got stuff like a basic life insurance twenty dollars.

On the side.

You've got enough to bear your money. Check cashing place in liquor stores. Cut that out of the poorest, the ability to spend the same to do anything, and that's a detriment, and it helped keep you at that bottom. Cast Landy saw a digitized system come there and greatly help people. So that was his part in understanding what Greenwood as a banking platform could do, or what's Greenwood there's a guy named Paul Judge here out of the tech world that's a brilliant.

A bust of bread.

And then there's Ryan Glover who built Noontime Records, who built Bounced TV, and who's a founding member of Greenwood. And they thought that this model of model's life is as we go more digital. Sixty five percent of banking is done, problem of your hand. Poor people need relief from being young predatory companies. All of this can meet and make sense and be a for profit thing, and Greenwood is born.

Why is it named Greenwood?

Greenwoods name green which for the town in Tulsa, Oklahoma that was burned in a race, wise burned to the ash, burned to the ground. And I would argue, and not only destroying that town in which a community turned a dollar thirty six times, so it was strong in terms of schools, doctors, Dennis stores.

It was strong. It was like having an ecosystem in a jar in the kitchen.

Even if your kitchen set on fire until that smoke getting in there, that ecosystem is still parking right in burning down that town. I would argue that the poor whites that did that destroy not only that town, this economy, but the greater economy around it, which is why you ain't seeing a basketball team pop up in Tulsa to a few years ago.

There was no need. It was no, it wasn't. It wasn't.

It wasn't a place where harmony could happen. So in Atlanta nineteen oh six or so, you get a rioted not far from here that way and on that side of town. Black people were killed after that. Atlanta, which is also the home of the Atlanta Conference. With w do boys book into Washington. They're like, look, we're here. We're not going anywhere. We're right over here in the

Commerce trump bullshit.

So quietly and agreement was made where black people and business owners took this side of downtown and we're right now, we're in the historic Auburn and Edgewood Avenue Auburn and Edgewood Avenue are also work will always be to some degree, Black Wall Street. The Atlanta Life Insurance Company was there, started by Alonzo Herndon Evan's a Baptist church. The SCLC headquarters with their office is Virguley, Black Business. It's always

Businesses since Corona.

Yeah, if it wasn't for my out of pocket what we have been able to survive when we open back up. We're not charging barbers, you know, booth wind and the initial things of that nature. So I have to think about,

So I mean, obviously you're an Atlanta historian, Like you said, you've been as an active activist for over thirty years.

Yeah, thirty years of my life. That's a long time.

That's a long time, right, So I'm trying to think is this something during that process or is just a culminate event of situations that motivated for Greenwood to start right now, like, well, was there motivating factors or it was just like.

Well, I don't know what motivated Ryan. I think that what motivated Andy was going to seeing it work right, but few more people. For me, it made It's made sense for me for ten years. I've been talking about it actively for six years. And they were the first bank or banking platform to say, let's bring Mike into the business code. You know, there's plenty of banks had the opportunity, and I still shout out all the black banks, right, but no one else, you know, said well, let's get

She's a friend of aka another, she's my.

Wife, Shay, And you know, like proverbs and I'm not I'm not a Christian, but Proverbs thirty one ten through thirty one talks.

About having the right type of wife.

So you know, the business partner and life partner that I have helps me understand.

That the capital I go get, we can do something with it.

We can bury, and we can put it places where compounds will grows. So you know, for me, in terms of Michael Render, I understand that that when Ryan invited me, that's bigger than whoever didn't invite me, because he sees what I see in the mirror, and that's someone with the potential to grow into a businessman. So Michael Santiago, Yeah, my dad just look my dad, man. My dad.

Shouts out, But Michael, liek my dad.

I'm all like, I ain't name of my goddamn young not even Michael Sago. My wife said. My wife said, I'm so glad, dady. Kids shout out, shout, shout out to Norry Victor Santiago.

That's one of my fast shots out.

So so people don't realize, I'm just some research and seventeen percent of black people are unbanked. You're paying to three percent, So if you think about it, that's a three percent of whites.

That's a lot. And then I will never forget.

So people have heard of food deserts, yes, and so I used to go to school in Baltimore. I did a research study on food deserts, and it's like, you know, we're for people that don't know. They don't every neighborhood doesn't have like a grocery store exactly, So people go grocery shopping and like gas stations and corner stores, and not only is the food bad, but the prices are much higher too.

So it's it's it's.

Enough process exactly exactly, so at least a high blood pressure, cholester all that stuff. So I never heard of banking deserts until like a couple months ago we did an episode.

Yeah, he was talking about banking deserts.

So it's like there's different pockets in different areas where there's there's no bank, and then there's check cashing places. And then I never forget. Somebody told us because when we grew up, we had a check cashing place.

Yeah.

My first job as I worked at a summer camp, and everybody used to go to the check cashing page because you get it quick. Yeah, but they charged like three dollars, two dollars, you're not what you thinking about it, but that adds up. It's like why are you paying it? And it's like you never see a check cashing pigs in the middle class or.

A wealthy neighborhood. It's either working class or poor neighborhoods.

Because the crazy part is that not to get you off, but the crazy part is that had we known that the bank right across the street wrote the check, we could have gotten the same day.

Sad thing, the actually was a bank in our neighborhood and we were just so conditioned. And not only was the check cashing place right next to the Chinese spot that shirt fried chickens. I always wondered how that worked. So it's like it was it was a weird dynamic. But I say that to say this online thinking, I think is is really the way because even in Kenya, I saw they had a lot of people can't get

We're about to have seen that place before. It's a black business. That's shout to Wall Street, Traffler Street travel flying Now.

We actually pulled up to it and as soon as we got there, somebody did a black flip into the wall.

We were like, you.

Gotta go in, you gotta you gotta interview the owner.

Man, he's a great for sure.

So yeah, so you so you felt so you you had that idea in Blue Flame, like this is this is what I knew?

What was it? I knew son was happening. You know.

It's like being in a gambling house and you and you start hearing rumblers. You're like, oh, son happened?

You know?

Excuse me for like something I learned business, you know in the eighties and nineties. And how did the black kid learn it in the eighties and nineties running errands for pimps, doing airs in the gallant house and selling to big crack cocaine?

You know what?

So I learned business on the most mudimentary level. You can't.

But it's like when you're in the gamon house you start hearing a little noise, little you just start looking around like something happening, somebody winning on, somebody losing that.

But when I seen the phone light up the dancing, he turned the floor. What the fun is he doing? I don't see no money? She got THEMN hours. Oh yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, come in red. She's like, what I say, y'all, I see you dance. She said, Oh, that's a niggas. He ain't get no money. You know what I mean? She said, well now here He paid me by cash out, and I was like, cash.

The fuck is cast? Your wife knows. My wife doesn't let anybody teach me about technology. She says, if my husband needs to know something, I teach him right so south South the little se smile and she stops smiling from teaching anything. But that's when I if it's in the clubs already. Man. My barber started doing it, and my sister who's a hairstyle started doing it, and then my sister who's an accountant, start telling me that they're

Yeah. So a lot of these brick and.

Mortar banks are on their last leg because they're not making a transition. Yeah, well a lot of them are are don't want to have legs a certain community, Like you're never not going to see a Chase Bank in a rich neighborhood or in the studio district where a lot of us are private banking wanted how many So there's gonna keep you know, Shad's gonna still be able to pull up two hundred fifty thousandars Canstraer, but she's not gonna be able to do it on Marketer King.

That's not gonna happen.

The one that Greenbrier may not last, but the one on our meal it'll be there. And we have to as a as a community that has foods and banking deserts.

We have to start to prepare for that.

And education and technology can keep you I'm in a state of equity and having some ownership, and it can keep you in a place of having some equality where you stand a fair shot.

It ain't fair, but just just let me get a fair shot, you know what I mean? I think.

And we just finished this book in our book club, The Color of Money. It tells the history of black pay Yeah, yeah, nothink. One of the biggest things they talked about me, I know, I know, as try as you out too, I was like, I said, yell, earnist, we might get them. But one of the things that they talk about is the history of our relationship with money. And once we learn our history, then we can understand how to use it, how to value it, and how to use it to our advantage.

Yeah. But one of the things that we lack is trust. Yeah yeah.

And so as you take on this endeavor, I want to know your thoughts. So, like, how do we get the trust from the people? Yeah, what you do a good job, and you do this best you can.

If I've always told people to first of all, I said, I didn't sign up for this leadership ship. I got in this to wrap smoke weed and hang out at the front, right. But you, destiny faked the universe or the creator that has crafted has you put you on the path. I didn't meet aka nundrum by chance. I didn't happen until you guys, by chance. It's my cup is empty. I'm supposed to be learning so I can pour into others, you know what I mean? So it

It was Michael Brownson, Yeah, Okay, that's what it was.

Okay, And then I remember they did it in Houston and it was a thing, and I remember that's how the play and you were saying, like, even if you if you're a black entrepreneur or you're black profession whatever, but if you're putting money in a white bank, it's still in a sense kind of the feasts the purpose in a way. So well, I'm not that pessimistic. Okay, no, no, no, that's not I'm not one of those either ors. Right, I'm from Atlanta. So people had to learn how to cooperate here.

You know.

William Hartsfield, who was an Atlanta mayor, was basically laughed and ran out of town because he gave Delta like a fifty one hundred year least and like a dollar five dollars a year. But yet Delta became one of the biggest employers of Atlanta and brought huge commerce and made us help make us an international city.

Having an International, one of the world's busiest airport.

And yeah, he had the foresight though to see it, you know, just like Maynard had the foresight.

So you know, with me, it's like.

You gotta have foresight, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta be willing to take the risk that you know is secure or or sure you feel or you know, and you can fail. But like in that so in the Netflix, in the Netflix series that you had when you went like I think it was seven days, like you just try to just only spend with black businesses, and he's like, even if you it's like everything has to be you gotta learn to cooperate.

You know, war is one without allies. I'm sorry, got our point.

But the point that I'm trying to make is that the federal government at one point, instead of making the big banks to fair business in terms of redline and stuff with black people, said no, we'll, we'll we'll just support the black banks. And they never came through on their problems, right, and they still want us to come vote,

And year lady, the prices is right, and she I don't want to kill you no more. I got a hundred bands, you got a hundred bands. We got a two hundred and fift thousd dollars deal.

My buddy got twenty by your buddy got twenty five. So at a certain point, it's not that the pain isn't there, it's not that the tragedy isn't there. At what point do we have to start understanding that to win a war? I must Ally, the United States and Russia have never liked each other, just two radically different concepts on how to treat people, how to different money. But when Germany popped up and was Omar and everybody motherfucker found a.

Way to get a little bar so show up to the line.

So we have to we have to think with the same mentality that I don't have to like a love you, but in matters of strengthening me as an individual in my understanding what I can do in my group, in our community, I will partner or ally with you in a matter of a bigger law.

Now, and that's just that's just what it is.

So let me let me let me ask you a question, because I know not only are your entrepreneur, but you're really in the politics.

I don't want to be.

That was the second was the said wing because what you just said is what you said about the president. Now, you like, I don't have to like him or even vote for him, but if he does something that helps my community, I should take advantage of that, because take av.

Taking advantage of everything I'm telling But that's every president. Yeah, that ain't just president. Now, that's that's there has been.

No president that has been for the black community. Take that. That's the fact.

That's that has been no president that has been for the black community. But if your policy affects the black community in a positive way, which can affect the greater community, I have to pay you some attention. Is that suff I have to pay you some of Obamas. For you, I'm clearing what I say and how I see. There has been no president that's for the black community. But if that president is playing in any way or policy helps the black community, I'm for that thing. You get

You got here.

So you're passing a genocidal bill to pay for your Sarah and your your need to get grinded on. And you've never chastised yourself enough to say I'll only pay by PayPal because I'm protested or greenwood.

So I'm you know what you know? Man?

In matters of money, we had better learn that we're going to have to pack some emotion to the side to accomplish specific goals from a monetary standpoint, so that we can take care of ourselves because no one's coming to save us. Nothing's coming out of sky to save us. Karma, although it's a nice concept. Evil people live longer and they seem to be happier. George Bushtin died he was ninety middle something. So but you were. You were supporting

I have no aversion to supporting that, and.

In fact, I think that much of his policy has been rape robbed and looted by both parties at this point, versus us getting behind the person who wanted to give us everything we would have needed during this pandemic, including some type of universal income, including some type of health care that was universal leading toward it, including decriminalization of marijuana, including a federal task force that would have dealt with roth police, including all these things that would have affected us.

Vote for the evil persons, whoever that may be. I want to go back to it. I want to go back to Greenwood for a.

Sec because a lot of times, and even in the book, it dives into the fact of black bangs being.

Put in neighborhoods right where.

Deposits weren't coming in at a frequent rate, and so they had to charge higher interest rates when they weren't loaning got money because most people don't really understand how.

Banks make money. The lows right.

So my thing is like, is Greenwood is there going to be similar like how other interests They're going to be competing with the big thing.

So that's their goal first, first year versus deposits savings, and so it's steps.

This is where we are. First.

First, the goal is to wipe out check pashing course, to wipe out the main the main parasites in poor and working class people's lives. So you know, people here saved twenty forty bucks. It doesn't sound like much to them, but when you're talking about now you can save ten percent of your income, what about when person gets to raise and get five hundred your thousand, Now you're saving more money. So that is the attack, and the next phase is in loans and home ownership, automobile ownership, and

So, I'm thinking that's the first step. Eradicate the check cash in push in the back of the day was also the Soll phone store.

Yeah, that's level.

And then then we got the posits and loans, and so I guess the next last stage would be business loan, small business loans.

Yeah, well small man, I don't think that's the last stage. I just think that. I just think that if you're going to run nine.

Miles, plot out your first three, then plot out your next three, and then your final three.

Right, So let's just say those are the first three miles.

Yeah, and I saw I wrest where Ryan said, like, I think fifty of black businesses, Oh, black businesses get loans at fifty percent lower rate than white businesses. When I think it's we're return at fifty percent lower rates. We're also denied in comparable applications. We're denied twenty one percent of the time in white's only eight. Okay, So, and so I'm assuming that's something that you guys will be trying to eradicate. As far as greens there's definitely

You know what I mean.

He's just like what you guys are doing is that's don't even travel together. Because if freedom is the objective, there may be slightly different variations of but we'll get there even if it's not at the same time. But I think we need a lot of kistons firing and an engine, not just one. And we have to we have to begin to end. O will want or need to critique or overly criticize based on a past failure, because a failure is something you.

Learned from that. And that's the part.

It was like if people understood their relationship with the money, they would understand. It's like if my iPhone breaks, I don't say I'm never using Apple again.

I'm just gonna get another iPhone, you know what I mean.

But if we like, and I bank with citizens, so shout out to citizens.

But if they like, if they mess up.

A deposit, It's not like y'all never banging with them again, I'm gonnaive them the same thingway.

We gotta get it fixed. And again that's why I tell people like one day as a leader, which I wasn't even in the in the.

Space to be.

But akat another those people like that black women to make you leave. But you know, I want to say, my bad, I fucked up. Yeah, you know, let me, let me get back on the bus, figure out. And there's another reason I constantly consult with people too, you know what I mean. Even before saying yes to this, I called around to black men who had ran banks. I called around the people work, like, what do you

But I just wanted to learn more.

I'm gonna like I found you guys, he's learning just kind of bausting around.

You know, like right some time and the rain. Now I appreciate that. So what's your all right?

So as far as business, because you're a business owner, obviously we're sitting in a business right now. So as you said, Brick and mart especially Brick and Martar businesses have been hit tremendously hard since the pandemic, especially black businesses over forty percent of black businesses have completely closed.

Right.

It's like we know sneaker stores, we know hair salons, we know restaurants, we know barber shops.

They're all great because they're service based businesses.

But in times like this, it's difficult because you have overhead, you have staff, you have things of that nature. So now you're you're going into the financial space, but you still have a brick and mortar business. You think there's a balance between the two for business owners, or I mean I think there has to be for certain businesses. You know, I think that people like the Congregated Fellowship. So you can only keep churches, restaurants, liquor stores, and

People are people are gonna come to get groomed.

Essential business. Essential business litus comes and you can't get drunk and go front there. Realized the politicians sneaking us off but we have to change methodology. And here you come here now either you have a mask or we have one available. Take your temperature by appointment only. We have four people in the chair, can only be four of the people sitting, so you know, and my staff is great about that. I gotta I gotta get them. They keep it clean, they keep it sanitized. Our bathrooms

Like I see mat.

Chula, shots out Selene, what's my new guy's name? Shots out to Sam Selene? I thought Sam was cutting Celeena is such a pro. He got hired as an intern paid internship, you know, not a lot, but I would have bought a few fair of joys. But Selene also has has a talent of camera work. And he said, hey, I've worked myself out of internship. I'm still going to do this type of stuff for the shot, but I'm going to find a comparable replacement and train him.

So I got to give him. Those are the.

Type of people you want on team. And I spent a lot of years floundering in Barbara because what we had barbaring, because what we had was people who were used to the old school way in which I cut hair all.

Day, but I don't clean up all day.

It was I paid boover rent, so I feel like I'm an independent contractor. But you never have to worry about your air being hot, You never have to worry about it being called. You never or those things get solved quickly, but you never think about the variation of boove rerint never changed that type stuff. So I love working with people that get it, you know what I'm saying.

So I think that's why what you're doing, you guys are doing, it's so important because you get it right, like you know what it takes to give a loan or to a barbershop or here someone these businesses that typically.

Wouldn't get along.

But you said some interesting now your dreams, right, So the barbershop was that's a dream? And if so, what what's the next? Because I'm thinking of my mind, Like you didn't know the fintech. So this kind of just came along and it was a great opportunity.

So what are the Yeah, I.

Wanted to own a like I wanted I want. I knew very young.

I was ling very young. I was like this yard work shit, this is not for the real man. What are you? What are you talking? People selling drugs out here, Grandma.

I seen my nigga take three hundred dollars my ground game and ragget dass lawnmow. I'm going, you know, pushing fucking more twenty five twenty bucks. And then old people like after they see you do it quick, maybe I shouldn't get it for nigga, this nigga twelve out scooter. You know, you don't think, oh, people can't slick you, but they're finesse you on the West Side.

But when my.

Mom took me the Decatur you know, my mom lived in the cab. Those people didn't mind paying twenty bucks. There was a kid living next door to me didn't mind getting paid ten, So I would charge ours twenty five, you know what I mean, I'd give him ten.

Keep your teen is my lawnmower. I got do mainenance on this motherfucker dog.

And so I learned very early that figure out the deal and figure out who smart. My mom had a good business money, you know what I mean. She was always about not working and figuring out ways to She was affloorished by nature as me, and she was an artist. She dated very successful. She did a very successful, successful drug dealer who opened up businesses as well. So she was just always thinking. So you know, for me, it's

People than themselves, you know.

So I started to not understand because I still got to pay my rent. But I started to see the glitch in the matrix. So we are transitioning to a commission shop, right. So I've been talking to people like the owner of sports Clips. I've been talking to people like who worked in Floyd's and Ruty system getting it as we sharpen our system.

But what kept us open and kept us prospering.

And went from being just a pet project that I wanted to have a barbershop so I could have a guy's place to hang as long as it pay for myself. My business partner and wife, you know, don't be paid for it self. She wasn't gonna get me too much trouble. You know, my managers had sat out like now was paying for herself. You know, you make a make a grant to two after bootprint and all your bills paid.

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Yeah, the go.

So it's crazy because you know he has a juice bar, Yes, I know in Yankas and we went we did the interview in the juice bar, and he was telling us how we actually before he got there, the staff was telling us how it changed the whole culture in the community, like people come and they look forward to getting the juice, and and it's like and then he was his white heim and his wife was telling us, Now they not only do the juices, but they got the online juice,

That's what I'm going to because I'm like, yo, this is now like when we went to la we had to go to the marathon story too, right, and so it was like it becomes a cultural landmark, absolutely, and so like you I saw Nipsey out here, I'm like, yo, that's what you've created. After a cultural landmark, was like, now when you come to Atlanta, you have to come and you go to Yonkers.

Yo, where's the juice bart? You know what I'm saying.

And it provides not only opportunity for you, but also provides opportunity for the community. Because the next thing, it was like, Yo, how do we grow because maybe this merch sells out so fast?

Now you got to get a factory.

But that also was now a maybe we're in this Friday or this Friday or next Friday. I go about an hour north of here to look at screen pressing machines, as I own a garage not far from here. And you know, if you let's use around members, right, drug dealer talking. So we're going to use a ten thousand dollars number. Right, So you made ten thousand dollars last my fear employees ten thousand dollars. What if I've learned

To make the tea?

Because if the cost is seven to make the ten, the paye three I want to make. I want to put three in and make seven out. I want to change that. Right, So I said, how can I cut costs? Because I'm looking at the shirts. We like a lot of color, but the more color used, more expensive shirts are. I said, Man, the fuck this shit? I said, I know somebody got laid off of furlough to fucked up. I know it's somebody that don't want to eat. I

I love Rick Cross's a business man. Rick Ross got three hundred sun Nakers, got hold of feel on shit. The first point is Nigga.

Lay niggah pack the fucking graund Rick Ross starts a grass cunning company. The way he's shouting out John dem sure they gave a niggas a pre track. And now it's home boys that would say, hey man, let me hold a sound saying let me get a job, because most people want the dignity of having a job. And now he has a way to cycle his money within his own ecosystem. Maybe he got Trump's tax mo he shot out too, and now he's able to put the people around him on staff. He's able to dig up

But so that that's it. You have to start. You learn to do that.

You learn to get in the game at first, and then start saying, well, what can I produce? What could I do you know, so whether it's Jay who got us into doing lighters, so you know, big lighters are not cheap, but there are all the lighters I use, but people are willing to pay. You know, it's easy to say a Knicks past to. You know, it's hard to say a dime, but you know it's easy to It's easy to.

Say a nick. Yeah.

Like, so.

We have the specialty items that are synonymous with kill a mic. If you watch Trigger Warning, you want to know where to get cripple Cole and blood Pop will just pop up. Go to the store, you get your Cripple col In, Blood Pop and more than like, you're gonna say, well, let me grab a new era, let me grab a lighter. White Woman came here last week plans. I just bumped up in the shop.

I just popped up in. White Woman man spent two hundred and summer dollars.

God blasts a beautiful cat Gunner tar listening to in the eighties. So this was the coolest mom ever in the middle of this shop with all black guys, nobody looking minuting. But she was just like my son loves y'all, and I wanted to come in he's to run the Jewels fanom like we are the coolest motherfucking mom. We took a great pick, but that type of stuff happens more often than not. And I've realized that the Slash Shop, and you know, a lot of people say it's a brand.

So at this point, I'm thinking, when people see you, do they even think about music, Souse, The first thing they think about is like.

Well, run of Jewleses top ten on the Billboard, two hundred, We sold a lot of records. We just did an adult swim special I only performance this year that's on HBO Max for a month. We arguably the greatest rap duo in the world right now. So I think that people know me from music, but I'm more encouraged that people know me for more than music.

So my family's from Tuskege, Alabama.

And if you talk about Lionel Ritchie, of course you start singing and people start thinking of great records. My family's a landown the family. So with my Auntius, remind you of you know he about he about a lot of l a baby. He did something with his money. He didn't just give it out the children. So first stop having children, not a wetlock. And they didn't buy

Now, that's dope.

And even when we get to the bar before and he gave me an idea I never thought about.

I go to the barber shops my whole life.

And he was like, how many times you see the barber selling hair, grease, selling brooms, selling a brush, selling combes. We said, yeah, it's like what you would think like that, that makes sense, that makes complete sense. It's like, why would I have to leave the barbershop to buy I hate beauty stores with my wife, so we started brushing. I hate born in the beauty stores to buy my grease. So we'll make sure everybody gets a brushing stuff too.

I don't feel like doing other shit. You know what I'm saying. I want to get Oh man, I'm in the shop. I got up. Oh give me that kill your mouses. Give me, give me that kill your mouses. Give me that brush and I need some grease. One stop shot, One stop shot man.

Because I sat in my barber shop on the south side of the O G Shop, and I'm sitting there, you know, slightly stone, just observing, observing things, and I see a guy come in selling socks. I see a woman come in selling juices. I see another guy coming in selling shitty storefrom CV. You know what I'm saying. And then I'm saying, this isn't just a shop, this is a store. But and then you know, I got it where it was like again, where did I learned business?

The trap?

I start taxing people? Oh you come to myself. I got to have I got to have tea. What don't make no money? They ain't got nothing to do with me, you and my shot spinning. So then they start serving on the outside of the door. So then I said, well, hey man, you're.

All a curd.

You got to give me five, but you're not gonna come here and not facing taxations because every.

Month man, this man want this money. Man. And this woman I sleep with.

Then this fine beautiful woman, she liked money, probably as much as she liked me, and she liked me before I add money so I can't.

Go to a telling them, baby, we ain't good. You got to pay me for it.

And that's when I got the understanding that we're not a barbershop. We're a store housing crypt of coola and the blood pop doing selling out daily. Shouts out to Thug, he took a picture with the big Holly ball Low. He took a bunch of blood pop up bit to your session last night, so shouts out to Tip, shouts out to Thub, shouts out for Savage.

They all is Jay partner with you on that? Or I know he had purchased something and put it in the lyric, and I.

Was like, yeah, man, he gave us a shout out like man to get a free jay Z shout out man, I'm like, I old Jay for life. If Jake calls me tomorrow and says I want to then what are we doing?

Sir? You know what I'm saying.

It's it's still fledgling. We're still building it. We're still very proud of it, and we're determined to make it something. I think that there is room in the market for the brands that we built up with street fraternities, with neighborhood clicks, with dope sayings. You know what I'm saying, that should be an old boy Colone. I was so nobody saying Cam It's flying, Cam cauld Sell. Colone is easily as Johnny Tip. You know what I mean, really the old Johnny De. Yeah, like Cam would do that.

I like to see her, right, I'm probably you know.

What I'm saying, Like, I'm probably gonna go you know, pop up at one of the high end perse stores, because that's just happy at this point, and I like seeing a happier face.

But you do that so many times and you're just like, you know, this is it.

It doesn't hit as hard because a woman, you know, like my woman, she likes security, she likes the purses, the boots and that stuff. But but in the last few years, I've gotten more about, let me buy you things that appreciate. So I bought her her grandmother's original house. I bought her a duplex in an empowerment zone. I bought a set of apartments. I bought a lot of cool things for her. Well, the apartment I fought for us.

But I bought her a lot of it. So from Tuskige, Alabama. Right, That's yeah.

My grandmother family the black to be in this moment where you have tens of thousands of people's signing up for your new venture, over one hundred hundred and ten thousand, I mean, just talking about the evolution, How does that feel at this moment?

It feels exactly. My great grandfather's father was using New Tatie experiment. My great grandparents were sharecroppers. My grandmother also sharecropped until they bought their own land. They owned thirty three Aggas and Tuskegee that we still currently own. Lumber companies pay us to cut down trees and use the wood. So about you know, January had got a five hundred dollars check, bought me and my son some Jay's.

Actually, but it was time for him. He grew.

He had a gross bird, and you know it was good to see that something. My great grandparents worked their butt off, you know, they really worked, They really worked fingers at the ball. My great grandmother argued with her husband that she didn't give a damn if it was you know, pickings, even time to harvest everything. That her children were going to school just like their white folks kids.

You know, my.

Grandfather had a radically different life, but it was one of the most kind and sweet man you'll ever want to meet. But he was ultimately a libertarian. In his fossip youths. He wanted the government not involved in his life. He wanted as least amount of taxes as possible, and he wanted the opportunity to fish hunt. He left the fuck along.

You know. He took care of him and his family, and he took care of his neighbors.

If we went and caught fifty craft mean walleyte those fish were cleaned by my sisters and grandmothers in the back, they were frozen.

We kept twenty five.

The other twenty five were distributed, passed four of the fives to the poor and elderly around them. So, you know, for me, my family ingrained in me what you should be as a man. My job is the first and foremost take care of myself mentally, fields the spiritually. That's why I came to be in the gym in the morning, but I go. That's why I drink the water instead of cold, because I want to live a long time

You know, so I did.

I am doing what my great grandfather and grandmother did, what my grandparents did, and what my mother and father done, and I'm being responsible to myself and my family and accountable to my community.

That's powerful.

So as far as Green, I know you guys haven't launched yet, but can people Like are they signing up?

It's like on the wait list waiting lists.

Yeah, you're jumping up on the waiting liss now and the amusement park offers up there as they providing jobs, so like if somebody wants to work on the other end, So like, I.

Know they are hiring people now.

They they've actually poked some great minds from one of the big well a couple of the big four institutions. I think more people are being brought off, but I can hit Ryan to the answer. We actually charls a little, talking my gout a little out here. He actually was just talking to Ryan, and so we're gonna have a call with him next week.

That's good. Ryan's a great gutta be dope to a great business mind.

Because yeah, yeah, I'm sure that because I have some questions even about like the ATM, like you could take money out of the ATM, right, yeah, so that that's dope. So it's like for people because most people are just so used to just bricking more than banks. Yeah that I like breaking still, yeah, I like going. I have both though, Like you have a Capital one account which is on last and now I got it. You got a lot of money too.

The man fell right now.

So I want to ask you one more question with Kobe Rack because you said something that was very interesting. In a while ago, I saw an interview your thoughts on education because Troy used to be an educated well but he used to be a public school We had a whole argument. We had a whole because me and him is like complete opposites when it comes to school. He worked in schools for his whole life. Pretty much. And I'm like the anti school person, even though I do have a college degree.

I said, you're the smart niggawree.

But the thing about it is, I feel like self education has taught me so much more than form.

So you would be my grandfather. Okay, So I told my grandfather I got a more house.

He's like, in your house.

I was like, nah, actually I can't.

I told his perspective is always jaded because he's speaking from a place now. I knew him when he was in sixth seventh grade. I knew him when he was in ninth grade. He needed to be there right now, I said, not even from like an academic standpoint, but from the social environment. And some of the academics and things like ye after eighth grade don't even matter, And I'm like, we kind of still need something, something we don't need.

Why I think school matters. I'm a name names.

Stanley Pritchard, Robert hitch Pitts, Chief Judge, Joshah Jackson, Cameron Dollar, Michael Rinchard, Tip Harris, Keisha, Lance Bobs, Michael Julian, Marvin.

Airy, Derek.

All these people are pretty elite amongst having accomplished things in Atlanta. The first five or six people I named were direct classmates of mine. So I was socialized around n c A, a champions Chief judges, professional football players, and businessmen. And I was socialized and educated around these people when we were in the sixth grade, in seventh grade and eighth grade, and I knew I could be a rapper because I knew my friend.

Play out of basketball.

So Cameron Dollard, who went on to one of right, So Camera's Me and Cameron were elementary school rivals. All we did was fun as we fought, and I give credit Cameron a lot for challenging me as a kid, like he challenged this, and that's just for nothing.

We were both to the chubby guys he had a men had.

Cameron is an amazing testament to mentality because his dad was one of the most winning coaches in the state.

He coached at Frederick Douglas High School.

Okay, so Cam, Cam really sharpened me in terms of saying, letting me know that all your friends ain't gonna gently encourage you, so I'm gonna push the shit out of me.

So we played, you know, on a team, Cam and like losing. So Cam, if I had to be on his team.

He was pushing me the whole guy like chubby as now. So I remember I Shall telling us at twelve she's going to need to make it and a lawyer and said we were like, fucking man, what are you talking about?

The man? It's not even a girl.

You know what I'm saying, Assha is a fucking she judged the cap got the one of the most powerful women the state of Georgia. They just took a program she created to make this state wide program. And I'm just like she told us, I should push me to go to a dinner last week. At the dinner is a friend of mine in late I mean not the late former mayor of Atlanta on the senior read all these other prestigious black men, just to have a conversation.

That's want another.

That's how much she cares about me that she pours in my club so school. In terms of socialization, most people who look like us have to wait until they go to a history through the Black College.

University to get that type of encouragement.

I got that encouragement in third grade from fighting camera grade for my best friend Robert Hicks.

In ninth grade from now chief judge Roshah Jackson.

My greatest economic encourager was a man named William or Bill Murse.

He's an art teacher at Frederick Lovel's High School. He's a reason that I'm that I love art and just saying I figured out a way to make money.

You know I love art, right. He also was the first person to tell all these little want to be dope boys. They sent me to his his art class twice. That was smart, But I have I like to fight. Oh you said, my god, let's do his school a lot of school suspension. So they just sent me to him twice a day. Send him begins at the end of the day. Man, we don't save peoples. Yeah, I'm

You know that you money is a tool or a weapon to be used.

It's not something that you just put gold gold fronts end from doctor Joshrey and well started jacket and some feebles and be the coolest in school.

It's a tool for you to use.

Mister Murray never really worried about the rules of school because he was co owner of Murray Brother's funeral home. He owned land at another dome when he used parking like people ain't gonna never stop dying. If you burying people, you're gonna stay, You're gonna be good. Yeah, you know a long time so I he went to Booker T. Washington High School, noticed the names of the high schools. I'm saying to Frederick Guggam's Booker T Washington book T

No, it's coming back, Doctor Kevin is bringing that one back. So margs brown back.

Just look at all the black confidence buildings that I encountered every step of the way. You know, Herman and Russell, the largest black real estate development in Southeast built the only Scotch breaker in our skyline has a step that is thinking of Georgia Pacific building only black devil. I think to build that lived five streets back from me. I grew up in the little working class houses that buffered them, you know, from projects, and then they leave

I mean, people wouldn't get killed that they were protected by people like the Deacons of Defense.

You know that happened because people like miss Kato, you know, people that the good boogie black folks were frown up.

Hut.

You know, my dad told me one time about working booking when mister Kato came in and had been arrested, and I said, what to say? He was drunk and school the brown to say them diamonds and he was wearing was blinded everybody. He was such a gentleman. He went down the sat and fom his things and problem, and I said, what happened?

He d say.

Eventually a Jewish lawyer came and he got right out, you know what I mean. So I just those are the stories and.

The characters I've grown up with.

Well, I just wrote a letter for a person ain't Stephen Jones, and he's another big part of the reason we're sending this barbershop. I ran in Adamsville, so in the front my grandmother's front door. Adamsville was that way in their back door bank head. So Tip grew up a few sheets for me, so he ran more sensiment bankhead. I had a great grandmother since so I didn't want to insensible. My auntie was an alibill, so I d up getting out of the shrub.

I wanted to.

But Steve I used to go to, who was from going home. He was from Chorlie Lows, Alan Rogers. Steve was twenty three years old, already had twenty three twenty four houses rental properties, already had toe trucks, already had barbershops. And he would allow me to just kind of sit and he just give me game, like my cousin cut. My cousin Jimmy actually was cutting in his shop and he.

Just you know, I was like it.

I was a chither of little black head, big buck to smile, white smile.

But he was the first person to tell me, get you one little chain. He said.

He said, well a Roman, he said, like a white man said, you wear a Roman? He said, white folks, children, you know I ain't gonna tell you that, he said, but you know, he saying, keeps me a white shirt. So Steve would wear chrias guest jeans, a stiff white shirt or polo style shirt.

Very simple presidential roles he had on.

But if you knew money, you knew he had something. So I just would just sit there and I'll sit down here and be talking to me, and dudes be bringing him McDonald's fast full of ash. But he just impartd all his wisdom. Never offered for me to be a runner for him, never offered me, no plays, but

So he is he has a redeemed factor. That's one of the proudest moments. I don't know because I haven't heard back from.

The judge yet, and I haven't heard back from Steve, but Steve Digget to let him to judge at the letter. But I'm hoping that how long has he been inside? I think he's rounding up on teen. He had got out for a while. Okay, he snatched back and God bless everybody inside man, everybody for sure kill him like man has been a.

Every music us we gotta do.

I'm not gonna freestyle no no, no, no no no no, get your cash cash Greenwood Baby be on your ass.

Yeah bar, I'm not gonna ask the best artists from Atlanta. I'm just gonna say, what are the three greatest albums that have come.

Out of Atlanta? Three greatest albums? Good question? You gotta come out of Atlanta? Good question? Uh huh, that's a tough one. I would say the greatest hip hop albums. Sorry, you're gonna be tell you. If you don't say one, I know which what you're gonna think up too?

Can I give your mind spurts from a New York inspectrum? All right, So I'll start, and I'll start with uh, Equimini. I think equipment is probably number one for me.

I think I don't. I'm not gonna say trap music because I think King is a better album.

I'll say that, and then I will say for me, just on the person that I gotta go, I'm gonna go back to outcasts, but I'm gonna speaking about love below.

But Dre's part two thousands album. I listened to big boys, but the two thousand side me.

You know off the trap, say trap trap music, change the game a whole lot, Doug motivation, one.

On one scratch motivation.

And then of course, you know, the greatest, one of the greatest albums of all time Confessions. I said hip hop though the classes in that that's Atlanta. That's Atlanta. Shout out to usher Man. I mean, so, what's your what's what's your top three? That's a New York respective.

I don't I don't really have a top three that you that you grew up on. Maybe maybe just whatever, just your favorite what I'll just say, artists that.

I'll give I'll give artists that I think deserve recognition, that will that never get named it's a big machine, weren't behind.

And I'll give you three artists that matter a lot of Atlanta. Uh Ali, So you hear any of those songs about you know.

That that is that is that is that is Ali and he was as daring and brave and singing as Andre three thousand ever was, and weirdly dressing before Andre three thousands right.

Uh, So Kilo is definitely to be heralded.

DJ Toomp cool and I connect him because DJ Tump was there doing mc sh i d who was a transplant from the Bronx here who came to Atlanta kind of set off that the possibility.

It can happen.

He was the DJ and making beats back then to Jedus Round. He also went to work at for Uncle Luke Records for a while and then he ended up inventing co inventing the sound for what we call trapp trapped. My good friend TII who major listed rightfully.

So and so that's q R Lee.

That's DJ Toomp and I'd like to give a person and outcasts him shine because he's one of the greatest DJs in the world. He's one of the greatest musical conductors of one of the greatest groups in the world, but although never considered a part of the group, as instrumental in why they put on amazing live shows. And that's DJ cut Masters Swift, who also comes down because for US and it's featured on the New Ben and Jerry's Holy Lamb, a vote collaboration with one of the Jewels that's on HBO.

Max all month.

He cuts on Goonies versus DT and just so people can get some contexts, this the equivalent of having Slash come out and justuitar your ship because he likes you and doesn't charge you for it. So I would say those three people have had a bigger effect. And you can argue albums because when you're gonna talk about it, you know, you leave out people like Chris Cross.

Jermaine and them kind of kicking.

Gut Chris Cross. You don't get out pants without out pants. You don't get the often left thoughts of this goodie mob. Al Is on the show Amaze exactly. The second album was even wilder and the first album.

And I feeling so you have you're leaving off, You're leaving out them.

You leave off Kilo Mafia trade from the Deck, who was amazing, you know, was getting to Luda and also not mentioned in the Atlanta context, although Jeezy from Atlanta by where this way he got then originally from making It's a little further even south than making a place called or.

All Benny Georgia that produced a group called.

Fild Mobs of the County in terms of accent and enable. Our wrap of Christmas wrapping Rapper with eight Arms Smoke and Son Jay are two of the greatest lyrics is ever produced from Georgia.

Red Clay.

So for me, there's a whole list of people that you never think but I definitely acknowledge it and.

Agree with about the new including users rock with us, New Dudes. What new dudes are like? Man?

I like the new waves. Man, I'm I don't know if you can even call it like Doug New anymore. I love I love a savage just drop, I love I love a sunny Digital and metro Booming created.

Light Year as a young artists.

I love Resting peaster An artists named Bags who's from the cater rich mean brother who died in a clarts then he was absolutely amazing. Ra Ros another guy Earth Game missed a lot of Big Lotto is amazing.

You know what I'm saying. I can't forget got out walked to Gucci Gui.

Giving people opportunity, and I think oftentimes yeah, yeah, he's giving people opportunity and and and it's probably gonna be in the in the sainthood of having blessed people in this lifetime. So I got to give that and all the guys that have made it beg here have blessed people. I gotta say that. Glucci, though constantly is co signing what it seems the next wave is. And I really and I really see that, and you can see it in the people he's in partiers and with you.

Look at little baby. When I asked my that's my son, that's my love. That's not only because he wrapped his ass off. He's wives and young. This year I asked my son Pony. I was like, who you like right now?

He was like, I said, free Rado. He said, yeah, that I like Rabo, the rob on that's locked up Free Rollo, who's from Simpson. But there's another kid out of Bama.

I think that.

He was like, check him out, and I think he's on babies Michael too, baby.

Sitty girl.

You know, not from Atlanta, you see, do you know? But we've had great artists. Man, the grip Flaves, you know what I'm saying. Judge comes on to the dungeon, FamoSOS legend and legend. I knew they was gonna be one of it was who I used to tell them this at the airport. And I see when I still some type of like, hey man.

Every time I see all y'all dressed a lot, y'all got y'all.

You know, when they were still cut some flights, I was like, man, the boys like them, Boy's gonna bloat.

And the next thing you know, the game. Man, it's easy. I'll be happy for folks. Man, I want people to practice that more.

Be happy when you see people succeeding, as it gives the possibility of you succeeding a greater chance. But nah, Mike, man, it's been a pleasure. Once again, I appreciate you. You really really doing a great job for the coach, and not just the coach, in the whole entire world. And for you to take time out of your busy schedule absolutely to sit with us is really humbling. And how can the people get more information on all the endeavors?

What we're doing with green With. So follow bank bring with as well. It's just I'm always putting up. I put up cars, I like, I put up, I put up, put up a lot of rations, ship too, businesses, businesses I like, and art and artists I like. You know, so you know, if you follow me, you'll get a sense of the stuff that I'm doing.

And I just appreciate what you guys are doing in terms of being the platform and providing playing speak in.

The in the midst of business speak.

Right, there's a lot of times we don't pull the trigger because we're afraid. We're not even afraid of failing, we're afraid of not understanding. And you guys help bring about, you know, wisdom and understanding and and and eliminate some of the anxiety and fear that people have. That's one reason I started following it again AKA Nney. You guys have to follow her. Besides being wickedly clever or retort to the people, but she doesn't do as much.

Now.

What she does is help you to confer the fear and anxiety back in fronting the realities of going into stuff, so that you go in prepare. You know what I'm saying, you're not afraid of the shootout, if you trained, you know what I'm saying. And if you know how to medically.

Take care of yourself and you're not as afraid. You know so because you're prepared. She really helps us be prepared.

She gave me some advice. Wants to take the focus off so much you right, and put it on your brain. And what I did was married part of who I was with the brand. So other companies, you know, when this stuff pops off and run the Jules is doing well, or when Mike said something on TV, people saying the light, they'll come and get me.

They'll give me some money to say, hey, stand behind our brand. But I'm like, if my face.

Can sell a pair of sneakers, if my face can help Catillac, or you know, if my face can help you know.

A beer aligned, why can't my face go on merch for my shop?

And why can't we replicate that then with other people so we've been given permission by some other artists to also use their images.

So we're wanna partner with artists that sing and dance, and we're gonna partner with actual artists that I like.

So there's a whole world out there of cool things happening that we have an opportunity to money size and if you follow me, I'm gonna be you know, using it. And I'm always looking for people to work and collaborate with. So look forward to some cool T shirt collaboration. Look forward for some cool products of merchandise and stuff.

For your hair.

Face again, Scout beer, and you know, if you come to Atlanta, three sixty five Edwood are right here to home Base, right here to the flagship store. Our other store is on thirty four to sixty one rows Gold Highway. We have one to State Farm Arena as closed through the cold and the NBA, but we're gonna be branching out over the next two years. Ten more school.

So Troy House keeping a shot.

Everybody on Patreon dot com, y'all know that's our prod to pay program.

Shout everybody that has a T five member.

Y'all also have access to E y l University, the number one online school for business and anything related with finance. Man, So shout everybody that's in there. We got a four thousand members, we all of y'all. Shout to gen that's been holding us down. And shout everybody that is supporting the merch and our team, our team behind them. Shout out to my man Ben, and shout out to Smithy. Man, they here with us today. Man, I watched these guys work at four am the other night. Man I was

So be on the lookout. We got youself, Tore Atlanta.

We love you, We love you, We appreciate you guys, and thank you for rocking with us.

Well, see you next week.

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