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Due South

Jeff Tiberii, Leoneda Ingewww.wunc.org

“Due South” is WUNC News’ weekday current affairs radio program and podcast. Broadcast from the American Tobacco Historic District in downtown Durham, co-hosts Leoneda Inge and Jeff Tiberii put life in the Triangle region into perspective and present a unique sense of place.  

From interviews with state lawmakers and local luminaries to Friday news roundups with statewide journalists, “Due South” puts current events into context and offers audiences a greater sense of connection. Each hour-long show sparks deeper conversation and understanding of life in and beyond the Triangle.

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Episodes

Data Centers; Broadside: Cryptomining: Litter Urban Streams

Data centers are in the news plenty these days. The massive homes for computer servers, cloud storage and Artificial Intelligence are in high demand. A recent analysis from NC State University and Carnegie Mellon University projects the rising number of data centers is likely to increase electric bills by an average of 8% nationally by the end of the decade. Zachery Eanes of Axios Raleigh joins Jeff Tiberii to share his reporting on data centers and rising costs, as well as the environmental and...

Sep 16, 202550 min

Creators of 'Ear Hustle,' the first podcast produced in prison. Plus, the history of school and residential segregation.

0:01:00 Residential and school segregation are closely linked It began with the founding of the Federal Housing Administration, ongoing efforts by housing developers and well-meaning parents hoping to provide the best possible education for their small children. Leoneda Inge talks with Karen Benjamin, author of "Good Parents, Betters Homes & Great Schools: Selling Segregation Before the New Deal." This conversation originally aired August 6, 2025. Karen Benjamin, associate professor of histo...

Sep 15, 202550 min

NC News Roundup: Violence and American politics. Response to Charlie Kirk killing; murder of Iryna Zarutska in CLT.

Violence is at the forefront of American politics: Charlie Kirk killed at an on-campus rally in Utah. Iryna Zarutska, murdered on a train in Charlotte. North Carolina elected officials respond, and our panel offers perspective. Guests Dawn Vaughan , Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & Observer Bryan Anderson , freelance reporter, creator of the “Anderson Alerts” newsletter Zachery Eanes , reporter, Axios Raleigh Ely Portillo , executive editor, WFAE in Charlotte...

Sep 12, 202550 min

ICE raids spark economic fear; former NBA star Chris Washburn; The Royale at PlayMakers

ICE enforcement in North Carolina has led to fear and caution across immigrant communities. Businesses and event organizers that rely on the robust participation of Latino communities are expressing economic concerns. Guest: Aaron Sanchez-Guerra , race, class and communities reporter, WUNC In 1986, NC State basketball star Chris Washburn was a first round draft pick in the NBA. His career would be cut short by a drug addiction he would go on to battle for years. Today, Washburn’s recovery has le...

Sep 11, 202550 min

Is North Carolina’s civics education working? Plus, WUNC’s ‘Education 101’ series.

0:01:00 WUNC’s ‘Education 101’ series and navigating K-12 school options As the school year gets underway, some parents may already be thinking about next year. With the Triangle region’s array of traditional public schools, magnet programs, and charters, as well as a large number of private schools, the local educational landscape can be confusing. WUNC education reporter Liz Schlemmer talks to Due South about an upcoming event “ Navigate Your K-12 Options ,” part of WUNC’s Education 101 series...

Sep 10, 202550 min

UNC civil rights law luminary Ted Shaw on the legacy of Thurgood Marshall. Plus, new documentary 'Becoming Thurgood.'

Today on Due South, a conversation with Ted Shaw, a law professor and director of the UNC Center for Civil Rights who once led the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and argued cases in front of the Supreme Court. Shaw talks with Leoneda Inge about the battles he fought then and the resonance they have now, and about his deep connection to civil rights legal legend Thurgood Marshall. Then, Leoneda talks with the director and an executive producer of the new PBS documentary “Becoming Thurgood” – about the ...

Sep 09, 202550 min

Chapel Hill’s Mediterranean Deli stages a comeback after fire. Plus, the politics around raising the US birth rate.

0:01:00 Chapel Hill’s Mediterranean Deli stages a comeback, two years after fire Mediterranean Deli plans a reopening – more than two years after a fire burned one of the area’s most well-known and loved restaurants. Leoneda Inge talks with the owner about the community’s support. This conversation originally aired February 26, 2025. Jamil Kadoura , owner of Mediterranean Deli in Chapel Hill 0:13:00 UNC professor on the birth, growth and complications of the “pronatalism” movement “Pronatalism” ...

Sep 08, 202550 min

NC News Roundup: Layoffs at Winston-Salem/Forsyth County Schools; student walkouts over gun violence

On the North Carolina News Roundup... Debate over Helene recovery funds continues. Governor Josh Stein is calling for more help from the federal government. President Trump says the governor is unfit to run a state. Congress has still yet to act on the state’s request for more than $11 billion in relief. Groups of students across the country are walking out of their classrooms Friday to bring attention to gun violence in schools. And the latest on Winston-Salem/Forsyth County Schools where a mas...

Sep 05, 202550 min

Beverly Daniel Tatum on challenges facing college leaders. Plus, enrollment for trade professions is rising.

0:01:00 In Raleigh, Miller Motte College trade program enrollment soars Miller Motte College in Raleigh has been rebounding quickly since the pandemic. Enrollment for trade professions is rising, particularly in fields like HVAC, welding, dental hygienics, plumbing and CDL. Molly Carney , President at Miller-Motte College - Raleigh 0:13:00 HBCU 101: Leadership Edition Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum joins Due South to discuss the challenges facing college leaders as financial constraints and diversity ...

Sep 04, 202550 min

How Medicaid cuts could soon impact health care access in NC. Plus, a new romance novel set in Dollywood.

0:01:00 Medicaid cuts loom over the future of health care access in North Carolina Following passage of a federal budget bill, cuts are coming to Medicaid. The impacts will be felt by Americans living in lower income thresholds, predominantly in rural outposts. Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii has a conversation about the looming changes ahead for patients and providers in North Carolina. Nick de la Canal , reporter and host at WFAE – Charlotte’s NPR News Source Shannon Dowler , former CMO of NC M...

Sep 03, 202550 min

Seven months into Trump's second term, The Atlantic's David Graham on Project 2025 influences

It's been more than seven months since President Trump was sworn into office for his second term, but efforts to deconstruct the administrative state were in motion long before his January inauguration. There is a framework by which the President, his advisers, and other conservatives have pursued this remaking of many government norms. Durham-based writer David A. Graham is author of the book The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America . Today, an encore edition of Graham’s April convers...

Sep 02, 202550 min

'Swim for Charlie' helps NC kids learn to swim. And how Columbus County became a 'pool desert.'

0:01:00 How Swim for Charlie aims to even the swim safety field More children ages 1 to 4 die from drowning than from any other cause of death. And drowning is the second leading cause of unintentional injury death for kids ages 5 through 14. Swim for Charlie is a local nonprofit organization helping second graders to learn how to swim. We're joined by the organization's president, who offers water safety tips for swimmers. This interview originally aired June 11, 2024. Dr. Jonathan Klein , Pres...

Sep 01, 202550 min

NC News Roundup: No budget agreement at legislature; campaigns for NC's 2026 US Senate race start to heat up

On the North Carolina News Roundup... A paradox in political news was on display this week. In DC, the gushing flow of updates continued, while in Raleigh, progress on the budget has stalled. We'll sift through the happenings — and the lack thereof. Plus, public schools are back, water quality issues persist down east, and college football returns. Join Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of reporters for a recap of the week's news. Colin Campbell, Capitol Bureau Chief, WUNC Dawn Vaughan ...

Aug 29, 202550 min

College football is back – a preview of the season. And – the John Coltrane Jazz and Blues Festival in High Point.

0:01:00 As college football kicks off, a season preview with NC sports journalists Across the state and country, college football kicks off. Jeff Tiberii and a panel of local sports journalists discuss the major storylines, changes in the sport, and what you need to know as you head to the tailgate in the Saturdays ahead. Mitch Northam , covers women's college sports for Vox and SB Nation's Breakaway Brian Murphy , WRAL sports investigative reporter Kate Rogerson , Sports Anchor & Reporter a...

Aug 28, 202550 min

A survivor of both Hurricanes Katrina and Helene tells her story; Gov. Bev Perdue reflects on hurricane response.

0:01:00 A survivor of Hurricanes Katrina and Helene tells her story Brandi Hand was born and raised in New Orleans. She grew up hearing warnings about the potential of The Big Storm – a hypothetical weather event that would leave the city underwater. When that event came in the form of Hurricane Katrina in 2005, Brandi and her husband Tom lost their home. They eventually relocated to Asheville, believing they would be safe from similar natural disasters in the mountains of North Carolina. Then H...

Aug 27, 202550 min

As immigrant arrests increase across NC, mental health care providers in Latino communities see surge in need

Arrests of immigrants in North Carolina have risen significantly since the Trump administration’s expansion of Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations. Some therapists supporting Latino communities have seen sharp increases in mental health care needs during that same period. Due South’s Jeff Tiberii talks with a panel of mental health experts and advocates about the impact of deportation fears on many in North Carolina’s Latino communities, barriers to mental health care, and strategies ...

Aug 26, 202550 min

NC State ecologist on the science behind humans' interdependence with nature. Plus, NC's 'Devil's Tramping Ground.'

0:01:00 NC State ecology professor’s new book The Call of the Honeyguide: What Science Tells Us about How to Live Well with the Rest of Life When you look out your window, what do you see? Perhaps birds, a tree or bushes — maybe some insects if you look really closely. North Carolina State University ecology professor Rob Dunn sees all that and so much more, exploring the connections and interactions between humans and the rest of nature in his new book called The Call of the Honeyguide . Dunn t...

Aug 25, 202550 min

NC News Roundup: OBX check-in after Hurricane Erin; potential impact of NIH cuts on Research Triangle

0:01:00 This week on the North Carolina News Roundup... We check in on the coast after Hurricane Erin. College students return to the Research Triangle as federal funding cuts and potential layoffs loom. Plus, WUNC’s weekly news quiz ! Leoneda Inge talks with a panel of journalists about those stories and more, on Due South. Guests Brianna Atkinson , Higher Education reporter at WUNC Rod Carter , Weeknight evening anchor at CBS 17 News Sam Walker , Editor-in-Chief of SamWalker O-B-X News.com Ada...

Aug 22, 202550 min

Hurricane Erin sweeps across the NC coast. Plus, 'A Good Boy' musical opens at PlayMakers.

Hurricane Erin update from the Outer Banks Hurricane Erin is massive, with risks of storm surge, rip currents and more. We check in on the latest from the Outer Banks. Jonathan Blaes , Meteorologist at NOAA/National Weather Service in Raleigh Sam Walker , Editor-In-Chief of SamWalkerOBX News.com 0:13:00 At PlayMakers, a new musical explores the lives of men living on death row PlayMakers Repertory Company presents the world premiere of A Good Boy, a new “intimate musical” featuring the stories o...

Aug 21, 202550 min

How Trump's tariffs are impacting one NC startup. Plus, a preview of the Triangle's fall festival season.

0:01:00 How Durham is trying to make being a pedestrian safer Every 15 days, someone is killed on Durham’s roads. WUNC's Youth Reporting Institute reporter Max Tendler talked to pedestrians, and local leaders, to figure out what’s going wrong and how they’re trying to make walking safer. Max Tendler , WUNC digital news intern, reporter of the award-winning story “ Asphalt Oceans: How Durham is working to make roads safer ,” and Associate News Editor at The Duke Chronicle . 0:13:00 Two of the Tri...

Aug 20, 202550 min

Rob Christensen's book 'Southern News, Southern Politics.' 'Paperhand Puppet' celebrates 25 years.

Southern News, Southern Politics: How a Newspaper Defined a State for a Century The Raleigh News and Observer has a complicated and consequential history in North Carolina. The story of the N&O – or the “Nuisance & Disturber” as some called it over the years – is also the story of the family that owned and ran the paper from the late 1800s to the end of the 20th century. And about how the News & Observer didn’t just report on politics, but also shaped politics, for generations of Nor...

Aug 19, 202550 min

'Getting the Most Out of Your College Experience.' Plus, a program to help adult learners finish their degrees.

0:01:00 UNC System expands partnership with ReUp Education to assist adult learners More than 43 million Americans belong to the “some college, no credential” (SCNC) population. Roughly one million of them reside in North Carolina. Efforts to re-engage adult learners are on the rise, including a partnership between the UNC System and ReUp Education, a national tech ed company that provides resources and support to returning adult students. ReUp’s services with the UNC System are expanding this y...

Aug 18, 202550 min

NC News Roundup: SNAP benefit cuts and schools; federal cuts to universities; audit of Winston-Salem/Forsyth Schools

On the North Carolina News Roundup... Federal SNAP benefits are being reduced, a change felt across the state and in lunchrooms. The results of the Winston-Salem/Forsyth County Schools audit. An update on federal cuts to universities in our state. The owner of the Carolina Hurricanes inks a big new deal. All that and more as co-host Jeff Tiberii talks with a panel of reporters about the week in North Carolina news. Mary Helen Moore , Reporter, NC Newsroom Gary Robertson , Statehouse Reporter, As...

Aug 15, 202550 min

The ABCs of NC school budgets: why more local districts face budgets that just don’t add up

As the school year begins, the status of state and federal funding for our public schools remains murky while local funding for school districts seems increasingly fraught. So how does school district budgeting work? Who holds levers of power to keep our schools operating? And why have school budgets – once something that many of us didn’t think about – become front page news for so many communities in recent years? Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii and WUNC education reporter Liz Schlemmer are joi...

Aug 14, 202550 min

Dr. Bernice King on her civil rights family's legacy; Daphne Fama's 'House of Monstrous Women'

Leoneda Inge chats with Dr. Bernice King, the youngest child of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King, to discuss her family’s legacy, her work as a social justice strategist and the work of the Martin Luther King Jr. Center for Nonviolent Change amid a changing political climate. Dr. Bernice King , strategist, peace advocate and CEO of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Center for Nonviolent Social Change Leoneda Inge talks to the Greensboro native Daphne Fama about her debut gothic horror...

Aug 13, 202550 min

The history and legacy of Black family reunions in the South

0:01:00 Southeastern North Carolina communities face FEMA cuts to storm resilience projects We hear a lot about federal funding cuts, but it can be hard to understand the impact of these large-scale changes in our local communities. Reporter Heidi Perez-Moreno of the Border Belt Independent recently wrote a story about Federal Emergency Management Agency cuts affecting projects in Columbus and Robeson counties – projects that were aimed at building resilience in the face of storms and flooding. ...

Aug 12, 202550 min

Winston-Salem Forsyth County Schools faces major budget shortfall. History of NC's tobacco warehouses.

0:01:00 The fourth largest school district in North Carolina has a massive budget deficit: $50 million. For the Winston-Salem Forsyth County Schools, the financial shortfall is causing confusion, disorder, and uncertainty. Jeff Tiberii discusses the situation with WFDD's Amy Diaz. Amy Diaz , education reporter, WFDD Related: More reporting from WFDD's Amy Diaz 0:13:00 Golden Leaf series: In NC’s old tobacco warehouses, Black workers faced brutal conditions by day. By night, their dancing challen...

Aug 11, 202550 min

NC News Roundup: DMV funding; what's next for PBS NC; Durham rezoning project meets opposition

This week on the North Carolina News Roundup... A look at State Auditor Dave Boliek’s call for the separation of the North Carolina Department of Motor Vehicles from the Department of Transportation. PBS NC’s David Crabtree provides an update on staffing following federal defunding. And rezoning projects meet opposition in Durham and Raleigh. Guests Mary Helen Moore, reporter for the NC Newsroom Bryan Anderson , reporter for the newsletter Anderson Alerts Zach Eanes, reporter, Axios Raleigh Dani...

Aug 08, 202550 min

Asheboro Mayor is retiring, but first he talks NC Zoo expansion

0:01:00 UNC System expands partnership with ReUp Education to assist adult learners More than 43 million Americans belong to the “some college, no credential” (SCNC) population. Roughly one million of them reside in North Carolina. Efforts to re-engage adult learners are on the rise, including a partnership between the UNC System and ReUp Education, a national tech ed company that provides resources and support to returning adult students. ReUp’s services with the UNC System are expanding this y...

Aug 07, 202550 min

A new book explores the history of school and residential segregation

Residential and school segregation are closely linked It began with the founding of the Federal Housing Administration, ongoing efforts by housing developers and well-meaning parents hoping to provide the best possible education for their small children. Guest Karen Benjamin, associate professor of history at Elmhurst University and author of Good Parents, Betters Homes & Great Schools: Selling Segregation Before the New Deal 'Ear Hustle' visits the Triangle on live podcast tour Ear Hustle i...

Aug 06, 202550 min
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