On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. If you don't know how to set up the 360 degree of your organization, that means you'll always struggle. Yeah. And that means you will look for doing another business that could give you better return. How about, like, fixing your 1st business and making sure that you're adhering it.
You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the real of the real on what it takes to build successful business today.
We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along the way Chaz give a true and accurate picture success and how you too can get there. Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe gathering the Kings podcast. Today, I've got my good buddy.
I'm gonna try to make sure that I say this correctly, buddy. Ahmed Mahmood. My brother, welcome to the stage. How are you? I'm doing great. Thank you, and excited to see you as well. Yeah. I'm I had to clear my throat and everything for that one, but, hopefully, I did it justice. I'm glad that you're here. We're gonna get we're gonna get technical a little bit here on today's show. You're a a working genius for a lack of better terms. Tell my listeners here.
But tell us what kind of business that you have, Ahmed? Actually, I'm a serial entrepreneur, so my background is more into the digital industry. And I basically run 3 agencies. I've got a couple of digital platforms. So one of the agency which I run is called software pro. The second agency which I run is called Ecom Development NYC. The 3rd agency, which I run is called HTML Pro.
And there is a reason I didn't have one agency and 3 agencies, which I can explain later in the podcast conversation. And then I have a digital platform, which is reps close similar to, if you heard about Samrus or, HRF, and that's called atv.com. Etdi.com is a digital market tool with almost like 60 plus tools inside that can be used free of cost by any digital marketer in the Wolfe.
The 5th venture, which I have, and which is done for the community all over the globe is called e commerce pro, and the website is called the ecompro.com. And over there, the way we run the agencies, the way we make others successful online, We put everything in the blueprint, and then it's actually in the subscription form. So anybody can go there.
They can pay, like, a $12 and they start to learn, let's say it's gonna be a Facebook expert or Google Ads expert or developer, you're gonna actually go there and become an expert. So that's the 5th platform we have. And we actually go in many places in the world and many cities, especially those areas where there is less education and skills and try to promote this venture. Yeah. I love it.
Obviously, you you're an international entrepreneur, and you've got a lot of interest in several platforms. And so I'm excited to kinda dive into this. Before we get into your story, I would love to know your serial entrepreneur from one to another. We're kinda crazy. Let's just be honest. We were our attention isn't cap by just one business. We have to do multiple things, but I wanna know what makes you tick? Is it achieving more? Is it an amount of money?
Are you trying to provide for your family, like, what's the bigger picture for you? Definitely not providing the family. So I think that's obvious. Some people say the leaders are they're born as leaders. And I actually I actually get it. I'm MBA. My specification was done in leadership as well in management. So I studied the whole certification and the leadership. I feel that some people have fire. Yeah. And that fire doesn't let you sit down.
Trust me, if you sit down, you're gonna get perished. Yeah. It consumes you. So it's actually the fire. And if you use that fire to any wrongful ways, it's not good for the society. So you used to that fire in in a productive ways, you actually get the benefits in your time, but you have to make sure that you have to be, yes, super multitasking. Number 1, Number 2, you have to be organized yet at the same time, make sure that the your stakeholders are not compromised with a lot of ventures.
And the similar way because you'll read a lot of books that says focus on one venture. And, actually, I somewhat agree on that too. But may not fit with every person in the world just like maybe you're the student entrepreneur and I'm the student entrepreneur as well because we wanna do a lot. So if I have 5 different ventures, I have the capacity to handle 5, and I have the capacity to handle 5 in in a way that you actually read in the books. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
I love that, discernment actually that you really have. I've come to know that myself over the years Chaz there is value and focus. Right? There's value in being able to dial in and do things in an organized fashion and work methodically through things. And to your point, there's a it's a capacity issue that we're discussing here. Some people have the capacity for 1, 2, 3, 10, whatever it is. Obviously, it would be a challenge for us to say Elon Musk can only do one thing. Right?
Like, he's point case example of how, no, that's not the case at all. However, I love what you said. Inside of each venture, you still have to be able to operate it like the book says in a dialed in focused methodical progressive way. And so I love what you said about fire. How did you come to know this, or when was your first, like, realization of OGs? I have a fire inside of me that's maybe a little bit different. I'm actually in the mid thirties, and I got to know about that.
I think maximum couple of years ago, not before that. Wolfe, before that, it was just working and working. Maybe I thought that I'm a hardworking guy. Sure. But now I feel that there is a fire inside. And the reason being is that I don't wanna I just wanna keep working. I just wanna keep moving. Even if there is no work, I still wanna work. Yeah. And then I saw a lot of people taking flights and sleeping, I cannot sleep in the plates.
If I'm in the play, I literally completed the whole book while taking a 12 hours flight just because I cannot be idle. So that actually means that when you're setting idle, you feel that No. I think you're wasting your time. Just do something productive and also see the opportunity. There is a huge opportunity for being deductive. Well, if you're done with yourself, then there is a community to surfboard.
So and if you have the power and energy to do more than yourself, I think that's a fire inside. I love it. I love it. It's really the king mindset that we talk about in inside of Gathering, the Kings, inside the mastermind, here on the podcast several times. It's this transition from maybe selfish ambition to what else. But once I've gotten mine, once I've made my millions or whatever, maybe you don't make millions. The reality of it isn't once you have enough, What else? You just stop?
No. There's a community. There's your family. There's your your team's family, your church, your community, all these other things. Alright. Let's talk about the story. I wanna know your story. I wanna know how did you first become an entrepreneur. What was the very beginnings of you and becoming a business owner? I Wolfe actually go a little back than becoming an entrepreneur. When I was five years old, there was a separation that happened between my mother and father.
And since I never I actually never had a chance to live with the dad in my conscience. So it was a hard time, never being hard follow ups, So a free guy who can do everything can go in the right direction, can go in the wrong direction, but I felt that actually took some really good steps but I used to face a lot of people.
I used to face any kind of people in the society, good people, bad people, face them, and able to come over it, Sometimes I got screwed up, sometimes I'll just go across and get successful. So a bit a bit of the life, which was not normal. So that's one of the thing that could actually fire you up as well because you haven't been raised up in in a normal circumstances. That's right. That's right. And then sometimes not having the, you know, a lot of money for completing your education as well.
And then because of Chaz, at 17 years of age or 18 years of age, you have to start doing the job to earn money, and then you have to pay for the university fee as well at the same time. So when I was in the university, I was doing a full 9 hour stop. And then at the 9 hour stop, whenever I used to have time, I used to read my my notes and assignments because I would have to, you know, give assignment the next day. Yeah. Exactly.
And then at the same time, I used to do a couple of hours of community work as well going outside telling people, hey. Do the right thing. You're gonna do the bad thing. So I have that insect inside me as well. Yeah. Yeah. You've always had it. It just a matter of you dividing up your time back then just looked a little different. Exactly. So from 18 years of age till 26 years of age, eighty years I did employment in multiple organizations. That includes some 1500 companies as well.
Started with the call center jobs, taking calls, doing sales, customer service, from that, at a background of marketing, MBA marketing, in leadership, doing call center customer service, ended up with good communication skills over there. I fell at that time. And then, a good day, someone called me up and he said, Hey, Hammet. There is a IT company? You wanna do a job? I said, what is the IT company? Back in 2009, I'm talking about. Then okay. Just go over there and get the interview.
I went there Chaz that company was actually an HTML based organization. Okay. So they hired me up for their sales. I actually did the sale right on my first call. Wow. And then gave them the project, and they hired me up. They actually kept me up for a couple of years, and I used to give them, like, 15 to 16 new projects every month, and they actually love me too. But then in 2011, I was called up by another big corporate. And at that time, 9 to 6, I was working in that corporate.
I was leading a team of about 100 employees for and doing the quality assurance and training at that time. And at that time, I had experienced almost 5 years. Then 6 to 10, I will go to another IT company for a service based organization IT company just like what I'm doing right now for my business. Yeah. And then from 10 to 1, I used to work in a digital search. So I was doing 3 log at that time, but in 2030, it's quite enough now.
And then I fell after 80 years that, okay, now my mentality with my bosses is actually conflicting and add a few values, which I thought that should be in a business or in an entrepreneur, and Chaz started using the conflict with the person I was working. Yeah. And at Chaz time, I failed now, Ahmed. I think you understand you should take a step ahead and start doing your own venture. Yeah. I love that.
I think that even though it's different than my story, different than some of the people listening here today, generally, though, is the same story. It's man, I'm gonna put I'm gonna put my effort into something and you kept going and you go into going and then you realize eventually, man, if I put this effort into my own thing, this could be really incredible. You don't really know looks like.
It didn't sound like you did at that time, but who knew, you know, less than 10 years later, you'd be a 55 platforms building out something in your mid thirties. Pretty pretty incredible. I wanna know, like, you talked about from your childhood a little bit from the perspective of not having certain things.
Was there this entrepreneurial, like, theme, even though you were working, did you always maybe know that you wanted to do your own thing, or was it something that, like, eventually you came to? Okay. I to now go do my own thing. I can see this better on my own. I evolved. Nobody taught me how how to go step by step. When I started out my entrepreneurship, it wasn't the company was with HTML Pro. It was just an HTML company.
After 3 years, I got to know, it's not what HTML would people looking for is actually the website. And then after a couple more years, I got, you know, it's not actually the website that people look for. It's actually the marketing leads to the growth of the company. After 5 years, I understood Chaz, Hamid, people are actually looking to win the business. That's right. And HTML, the website, the software is a byproduct. They're just tools. Exactly. So then that's why I add the companies.
One is ecom development Chaz does the ecommerce marketing as well. Sure. Yeah. That means that we actually help people grow successfully if they don't know how to be successful online, and we know that when we help with that, we end up getting the development work in that too. So, yeah, it's actually involved.
And that's one of the reason I mentor now as well Chaz all the 10 years at which I took and I learned with the time, I can tell people that they don't have to go through, you know, all the hard part, and they can take my seditions. Yeah. Exactly. I love that. Alright. I wanna know early on, when you first made that move to become an entrepreneur on your own, do your thing. That 1st couple of years, let's go back to the those years.
I want you to tell me about a good decision that you made inside the business. That you can share here today Chaz would be applicable. Now that listeners can take a note, take it away, and apply it to their business. Absolutely. I'm actually writing my own book as well. That that's gonna be my 6th. Hey. Oh. And so just to let you know, guys, that my agencies, they're in multi 7 figure in daughters right now. Yep. So we have good revenue stocks coming up.
Right from the day one since I had a corporate experience. The one thing which I did, which I still see, so I put a post onto the LinkedIn who is following the EOS model, which is entrepreneur operating system. And apart from 1 or 2 people, they didn't even know what the EOS model is. And if you don't know the EOS model or if you don't know how to set up the hierarchies, if you don't know how to set up the 360 degree, of your organization. So that means you will you will always struggle.
Yeah. And that means you will look for another doing another business that could give you a return. So mixing your first business and making sure that you're adhering it. So the one thing which I did was following the books, following how the big corporates are working Chaz includes process. So I actually wrote the process in with my own hands, writing everything that a person should do, assigned different roles Yep.
Making sure that there is a CEO, there is a integrator, And then there is different department leads who the who are reporting to integrator and CEO as a visionary. And then the people who are reporting to each other making sure that every person has a number or a KPI to achieve, and then they have a reporting mechanism.
And then they have a monthly report mechanism as well apart from doing just delivering the projects and then making sure then there there is a quality assurance department as well to make sure that everybody is working well. So right from the day 1, I wanted to have an organization not just a a project based delivery based organization. Yeah. I love that. I think that there's a lot of times. It's not the first time it's been mentioned here on the show.
But what you said is that we've we heard it. We see how it works in big corporations, but we just don't do it because it it's work. Let's just be honest. Like you said, you had to write it out for yourself. Make sure that each a job description is in place. Make sure that the hierarchy is established. All these things seem like really basic but it it really gives you a mindset inside the organization that allow even if you don't have those people in place yet, would you agree with this?
That you're writing this thing out as if you see the business in a certain way, And then you're starting to fill these seats as it goes. Would you agree with that? Absolutely. So first of all, I always say peep people call me a pro because every of my winter is call a pro. And I tell them, hey, if you wanna be successful in your venture, be a pro in your business.
Yeah. And if you're a pro in your business means you're expert in your business, Chaz means you can actually write down what are the good things, what are the bad things. And then once you have noted down everything, that's the time that you can actually sub assign your roles to others. Yep. So even if you're smaller, like, a small entrepreneur, still, you should be doing the initial job yourself. So the 1st couple of years, do not call yourself a CEO.
Just call yourself some role with making sure that the organization is in place and he's writing a lot of documents. So one of the venture which I did, which is ecom development in YC, we reached the first seven figure in an year and a half. Exactly. Wow. And the whole 1 year I didn't waste any time. I was just writing the documents Yep. And assigning to teams and training the teams. So the 1st couple of years are for the entrepreneurs to do as much work as possible to make it an organization.
Yeah. Yeah. Because if you don't have that 1st year or 2, 3, then, really, there's no foundation and all the things that you're talking about, 7 or even multiple sevens, 8, 9 figures, that doesn't happen out of disorganization or the not being built on something secure. Yeah. Exactly.
So it just never is gonna get there because as even if you have the ability to market and bring in new customers, all those people will just fall through the gaps because you don't have the systems in place to be able to take care of them on the back end. So what would you say? We're gonna flip the coin here. What would you say was a bad choice? That you made as you're building up these first, the first couple of businesses. I think not choosing the right rules. Pushing the right rules.
K. Sometimes you work with people. And you push them to do a certain work until I read a book, and that's called fraction Yep. And agree on your business. So if that's for the audience as well, you must read that book. You must read that book, traction, get a grip on your business. So until I read that book Chaz always choose the right people. And if you think that a certain job is not being done correctly, check the person.
And if you have a doubt after making sure that their roles or the numbers are not met or they have the attitude issues or the person is creating the negativity, then do not be afraid of getting a part and put the right person. So I would say that since I was a very small entrepreneur at that time. And then I was, a bit in a learning curve. So I made the wrong decisions by choosing the wrong people. Sure. Yeah. And you're a 100% right.
If you don't know, even going back to your good decision, if you don't have the things in place, because, obviously, It's not like you just, all of a sudden, everything's in place. You said it took you 18 months to really build the foundation. So through that process, there were times where you had people, in this case, you're saying the wrong people, before you had certain systems. And, eventually, at some point, it was a mess.
And you were like, ah, so you had to fix some systems and you had to fix some people. What would you say was the indicator for you? Or maybe someone listening today, they're not at that $1,000,000 mark yet. What's an indicator for them to know that maybe they got the wrong person on the bus, or maybe that wrong person just in the wrong seat on the bus? Exactly. So, again, if you get back to the book, it will tell you that always assign a number to every person.
So let's say you're part of project manager, give him a number, and your customer quality reviews index should be 90%. Or there should be 95%. Right. The delivery SLA should be 95%. Right? The feedback from a customer's about your behavior should be 98%. Right? So take out those numbers and then see where the gap is. If they are meeting that number, so that means you have the right person. And if those numbers are not being met, then you don't have to actually listen from X Y Z places.
Okay. This person is not doing the right job. Hey. I think this person is wrong for this Wolfe. Don't have to put the ears on that. You should just focus on the numbers. And that's what I learned in the later stage of being an entrepreneur Once you get the traction and traction, you get in the weekly or the biweekly reporting meetings where you said and then you ask the leaders to give you the board. And that number Wolfe tell you, okay. He's the right person. He's the wrong person.
Yeah. Yeah. It seems so simple when you put it into, sentence like that of just, okay, now the leader basically reports the number to me and I make a decision. What would say the first step, obviously, going to the book, reading it, dissecting. For the person listening right now, outside of reading the book, What would you say is their first step? Do they need to look at their current team? Do they need to create those job descriptions first and then look at their team? What would you say?
Because maybe they'd never heard of this before. They're like, okay. This sounds good. I need to get some I need to get ahold of my business, ahold of my people. What would you recommend their first step be? A friend from a IT company. He's got he's actually in about a $1,000,000 company with almost 15 employees. K. And he booked me out for a coffee. He said, hey, Hamid. I wanna meet didn't until that, I didn't know about that. K. I went to meet him, had a coffee.
He said, I'm facing one problem. If you can help me, I said, okay. Go ahead. He said, I'm at whatever I tell my employees, they don't follow it. And due to that reason, I end up doing things myself. Exactly. And this sentence, I've heard that hundreds of times. Now it could be hundreds of times now. Oh, yeah. The same sentence that the entrepreneur will say that I will do this job myself because he's not able to do what I want. The key is you said Chaz. Do you just say it?
Or do you put it on a paper? Give it to him and keep a document in front of that person and then say, hey. Whatever you need help with, you see the document. And I'm expecting the work to be done exactly as per the document. And if you don't do that, your API will be marked. And if you continuously do that, you'll be fired. Yeah. So the first step is write the document. Yes. Yeah. I love how easy it really is, but systemize how you're making it isn't that moment.
Like, what what I knew you were gonna answer it like that. Right? And so what I'm pressing on in the listener right now is And, look, I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there where they're just they're really fast. They're trying to solve this problem, help with this client, put out this fire. Like, just all over the place, and they're barely getting anything done. And they're thinking, you want me to take time that I don't have and write a document, really?
And my encouragement is yes. Just like what Ahmed was just saying, it really comes down to communication because if you don't learn how to just write it out and then write it out in a form that can be understood, maybe there's a little bit of training. Like you said, basically, you say, hey. What support do you need? Cause if you can genuinely give this thing away, this task or this division even, then it's gone forever. And that's the way that most entrepreneurs don't realize.
They're so stuck in the daily grind that they won't stop for, like, a little pit to change out their tires or change the oil, which is write the document. They just keep going and going and going and going, saying I'll just do it myself. They can't do it right. I can't find anybody good. They're too slow, too lazy, whatever. I'll just do it myself. And, eventually, what the hell keeps them from growing, eventually leads to burnout. They eventually close the doors.
Like, you wanna add anything to this? One more thing. Empowering without training is a curse. So a lot of Here's the here's the keys to the car. You don't know how to Here we go. Here we go. So I saw a lot of entrepreneurs coming to me. They said, hey. I tried to give him the job, but he feels. So now I do it myself. I asked, did you train him for it? Yeah. No. I told him telling him it's not training. The person's you know what I did? I had a junior team for 1 of the winter, which I had.
And after spending a month or 2, I realized these guys are really junior. And what I did, I said, okay. You have 8 hours of shift. You will do just 7 hours of shift doing working. 1 hour for the next 2 to 3 months, I will give you a training every single day. Yeah. I made about 32 modules explaining how the websites work, explaining how the softwares will work, explaining how the marketing works, explaining how the customer service works, explaining how every technical matter will work.
I actually put it on paper, and I started training them. And after every training, I will give them a document and I'll ask them to complete that in house. And I'll tomorrow before the next training, I'll ask them. So one thing you asked me to add Chaz always freeing your people. And just remember that when you train them, it's not lost. And you know what? I was actually reading a comment yesterday from one of my employees. And he said, Hey, Hamed.
So I saw my customer website, and he had these fifteen problems on his website. Yeah. What the fuck? Are you are you seriously a pronoun? When you were hiring, you were just a data inquiry guide. I know you're saying that the customer is having these fifteen problems and this is not able to make sales. And I was actually glad at myself that Glad I Chaz actually empowered them and actually print them so I can see this. Yeah. You're right. Most people, if empowered and trained, actually supported.
Can do a whole lot more than they actually believe in themselves a lot. A lot of times us Chaz entrepreneurs believe in them more than they believe in themselves, But what a cool reward that you got to be able to see him develop in fast motion to be able to help clients in that way. And what a reward, actually? Now we're talking a little Wolfe Right? Yeah. We we raise people up. It helps our business. That's all fine.
But, like, selfishly, doesn't it feel good when you know you changed someone's life? Because for real, guy that you're just talking about, whether he works for you forever or he finds another opportunity, he's forever changed because of what you did for him. Absolutely. Yeah. It's tough to find it's tough to find a fulfillment like that outside of what we're talking about. So it's actually painful as well if they leave you. Oh, yeah. And it happens. It happens. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. So someone you trained for years, they leave you, Yep. But against a legit business, the business mean risk. The business mean you're saying good things, you're saying bad things, your employee belief, I'm employed. It would be things for you. Why don't you see Chaz? Right? But I always see the positive aspects. And then what I get as a reward is I'm completely moved as a visionary. So these guys are all executing.
These guys are all working with customer, raising invoices, getting the money and everything. So I'm just a visionary now. And all of my training, then all of my hard work for one and a half, 2 years, which I did for one of my venture, I actually see that working now. Yeah. And if I actually get to deal with a lot of businesses, who after 20 years Underpenor is still taking sales meeting. Entrepreneur is handling our micromanaging things. So if you don't change today, you will never be changed.
Yeah. That's so true. I received that over and over again. I gotta keep that in front of my own face sometimes because we can all get in our own way like Chaz. What process or maybe even discipline do you have around making decisions at your level now? I'm very organized. Whatever I receive, I actually have a list of priorities. Some things are very priorities. I will always see them. Some things are later priority. So I Wolfe check them during the day.
Some things are of the even less priorities. I'll see them in a month. Some things, maybe I'll just see them when I'm taking a flight. Sure. When I don't when I can't do anything else, And I Wolfe just open that list. So the rule number 1 for entrepreneur and the leader is organize yourself because if you are not organized and if you have started missing things, the ball team will compromise. Yeah. It's good. That's good. And so because of that, you organize your decisions in the same way.
If it's a decision that needs to be handled right now, you take care of it. If it needs to be later, then you just push it and not push it off, but organize it as such. Is that what you're communicating here? Not only the decisions, but every task every task.
So, for example, one of my facilities, so we took a 5000 square feet, a whole building in Lahore, I'm actually live in New York City in Manhattan, but one of my employee, he called up and he said that, hey, Hamed, we actually need you here for a couple of weeks. To complete this task. So I took a flight right away. I came here, completed this facility, big building, put that on priority, and put other tasks on lesser priority. Right?
So, yes, it's very important for the entrepreneur to make sure that what is a priority right now and what is now the priority right now, and then divide that list. And just making sure that in order not to compromise your stakeholders, just give them some expectation about yourself as well. Right? So if I receive a new request today, which I'm not able to take today, you don't have to get a pressure from that person. Tell them, okay. I'll have a time in 30 days. Is that okay for you?
And that's how you keep yourself organized. You should not keep everything to the next day. But just organize yourself into the weeks months years. That's right. That's right. Because most people will ask for whatever they can get. Exactly. If you'll give it to them next day, they'll take it day. They Wolfe take the next day. Otherwise, you have to mold them accordingly as per your choice.
Yeah. Yeah. And if it doesn't fit into the current mold, then possibly it's a high enough priority where you should consider otherwise. Yeah. And it doesn't work. You don't do it. It doesn't work. Yeah. Absolutely. Pretty straightforward. Okay. Hamed, I wanna go to the speed round. I wanna come at you in a little different angle here. I wanna take your entire businesses, all your platforms, and I wanna dwindle them down into one trackable metric.
If you can only pick one thing to track forever and ever, what would that one thing be? Can you explain that a little bit more? Yeah. There's lots of things that we track inside of our businesses. Right? Lot of KPIs, sales, net profit, customer satisfaction, you name it. Right? We track all these things. If you can only pick one thing to track in your businesses, what would that one thing be? I will just go with my compliance and QA guide reports. K?
Yeah. I'll just work with that person, and I will I'll check the reports that he's making for my employees, about his evaluation for the teams. So in my organization, couple of guys. They check from the revenue point of view, from scalability point of view, from even someone is messing around from checking the transactions, from checking the customer service. So I will just drag my QA department or my compliance department, and then I can be a little bit less worried. Yeah. That's one thing.
That's one thing. One more thing. If you wanna be a little bit free up as an entrepreneur, so after spending a couple of hard years, hire an integrator for yourself. Right? And that integrator should actually be working with your Wolfe team. So in that so if you have money to hire an integrator, then only track that integrator. Exactly. Yep. That's right. That's it's a double answer. It's one one thing.
And then in this case, if you have the one person, all you need to track is that one individual. You're a 100% right. Quick question. This is more of a side note than anything because you have 5 platforms or 5 businesses. Do you have an integrator for each? Do you have an integrator altogether? How is that set up on your side, For each. For each? Yeah. It'd be difficult because you'd basically be the entrepreneur inside of that one that you don't have the integrator for if you didn't.
Well, I've seen someone who's who can be exact replica of mine. And I don't have one person who can actually grasp the 5 different platforms and how they work. And how they should work. My belief you should hire different integrators for different ventures who are expert at what they do. Yep. Love that. And it's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Now you've mentioned my my next question in the speed round is what book would you recommend? You've mentioned EOS and action.
Would you like to throw out any other books that you love as an entrepreneur, specifically for someone who's looking to scale? Yeah. Yeah. So one is is a fraction, and the second one is the 7 figure agents roadmap by Josh Nelson. K. What was your take away from that book? He will tell you about how to set up the lead generation for your agency. Yeah. And how to be focused and how to go on niche based for your business. There you go. Yeah. And then, of course, you have a book coming out.
When does your book release? So I actually done writing for myself, and then there is a proof reader who is a proofreading. I think it's gonna take a couple more months. Okay. And then I'm gonna be go going to the industry specialist to make sure that they understand well and they find the value. So I have a deadline of about 2 months, and then hopefully it's what you should do. Perfect.
I'm sure by that time, the show will be up and running, and we'll put your link to your book in the show notes so they can grab that. I got 2 more questions here for you. The operational 1, we've already tiptoed around this with the idea of an integrator and the EOS, but If you only had 1 hour each week to work in your business, how would you use that 1 hour to successfully run it like you do now? I actually, to be honest, I spend 36 more hours because I want to work.
So, actually, I can so let me give you a story. I'm sorry. It will take one minute. Sure. Please. I used to work with clients, and I can handle 50 to 75 projects myself, single handedly, if I'm the account manager. Since I'm not account manager, I won't handle it now. One day, I thought, like, hey, Mohammed. You're handling so many projects. You're making them successful. Why not your own business?
So I started expanding my own businesses, having multiple ventures, and trust me, I spent 1 to 2 hours maximum for each business. And what I do is I work with integrators of each business. I spent 30 minutes in writing the instructions in directions and 30 minutes for taking their follow ups, and that's pretty much it. And the rest time is I can pay them salaries. That's an exit. So you build a team. You find an integrator to run the team.
Yep. Through the process of building the team, you're writing documents and job descriptions, SOPs, anything that needs to be documented, training. And the next directions. And the next directions. And as long as you have those things there, all you really need to do check-in on those things Chaz well as then give new direction, new vision. Here we go. Just 1 hour. Just 1 hour. That's all it is. I love it. You'd be surprised if some people are taken back by that question.
Others are already implementing it like you, which is incredible. Last question here for you. If you lost it all, what would you do? I will probably, pray, and I'll, because so work I do is my passion. Yeah. And then if I if I lose it all, I think I'll not be much worried, to be honest. I'll start doing community work. Yeah. Because that's the satisfaction you can get there. So and I'll go to people.
I will preach them with things about business, about how to live, about how to be successful in life and after, and that's what I'll do if I lose it all. Yeah. I still do that, but, of course, being busy Chaz takes the time, but Yeah. No. You wouldn't be sitting down or sleeping on a plane. That's what we do know about you. You're right. Your feet would be moving. Ahmed, how can the listener find you? Whether they you've listed a lot of businesses here who listening today can use your service.
Maybe give us a quick plug of who the best clients are that that might need your service. Entrepreneurs listening today, how would they need you? How can they find you? So number 1, if you are an ecommerce business, and do not know how to be successful online. We can help you set up your website in 20 plus e commerce platforms or We can help set up your search and optimization, run Google Ads, marketing funnels to make sure that you've been online.
Number 1, Number 2, if you have a small medium business looking to have application or software development done, we can help you out, and we can actually transform all your physical processes into applications connected with each other through the APIs. Number 3, if you do not know everything or if you want to be a pro yourself, then you can log on to the ecompro.com and start learning those skills. So with software pro, it's wwww.softwarepro.nyc for the ecomm store owners.
That's ecommdevelopment.us for for people who want to learn skills, that's www.theegompro.com. Love it. Love it. You gave us all the right ways to connect and there's business owners out there. I actually love what you said there about taking all these processes that we just got done talking about. All these written forms, and you can turn it into an app for me. It sounds. That sounds awesome. There we go.
And if you wanna catch up with myself, so you If you don't Google and don't find me, so I'm not the right person, of course. So just Google, Mohammed, move the pro, and you should be able to find my LinkedIn and Facebook and all the notes. I love it. We'll put them in the show notes as well so people can connect with you easily. We so appreciate you being here wish you nothing but success in all of your endeavors. Nothing but blessing and all of those in your family. Thank you for being here.
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