On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. I think the biggest thing is really just talking about it and communicating with that client, like, Yes. This is huge. This is what I'm nervous about. This is what I think we Chaz do. This is how we can literally plan it out say, hey. This is what I'm nervous about, but this is what I'm gonna do to see if we can make sure we can compensate for this thing that I'm worried about.
You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars. From business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the real of the real on what it takes to build a successful business today.
We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along the way that give a true and accurate picture of the journey of success and how you too can get there. Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe. Today, I've got Jesse Barlow on the King stage. My man, how you doing?
I'm doing great, Chaz. Appreciate it. You know, it's it's funny. This is one of the first time I've I've recorded a lot of shows now, and this doesn't happen very often where I have to literally text my gas and go, hey. I need 10 minutes. I'm sorry. And and the text I got back from you was, thank goodness. Me too. And so here we are. I'm I'm excited to talk with another hustler grinder mover shaker. Jesse tells what kind of business that you got, brother. I'm in the concrete business.
So literally the physical labor you put down concrete. We, hey, we all have it. We all need it. Oh, yeah. No. I mean, literally, it's a lot of it's it's a huge industry that a lot of people forget. I mean, you're not gonna build a building without concrete. That's right. That's right. You know, and what I know about concrete is that, well, I was 13, 14, 15. Working underneath underneath the table. Yeah. And, I'm the only skinny kid working, with no shirt on because I wanted a tan.
You know, because I couldn't I couldn't get a pool membership. We we didn't we didn't have the money for that. But I could work, and I could get a tan laying concrete So I'm I'm laying forms. I'm I'm smooth. I'm I'm trialing. I'm cleaning up the site afterwards as as they made me do all the all the grunt work as a fourteen year old, but That's what I know about concrete. I mean, that's where most of the start.
Somehow, somehow Wolfe just end up stuck in it or you know, really what I chose to do is leverage that to give me what I ultimately wanted. I wanted to leverage my experience with that, and I've been doing it since 14. Similar to what you did, you just pack forms, you wheelbarrow, and you just do, like, some really, really dumb shit. Yep. But for whatever reason, I caught on super quick to it. And I leverage that experience to ultimately get me what I wanted.
Do do I wanna get out there for concrete every day? No. I mean, it's a lot less stressful than running a business by all means. That's right. It is. It is. But, I always told myself, I'm gonna leverage my experience to build ultimately what I wanted, which was the business. I always wanted to be a business owner. You know, that that kinda leads me into my my first question. I asked this to every guest and it's why. Like, why are you doing this? Obviously, at this level, you've been successful.
So, you know, monetarily, you you've you've achieved what most people out there, including most of our listeners here today, they haven't yet. And so you've you've achieved success. Why are you doing it? Why are you still doing it even at this level? I'm doing it because I wanna see what I'm capable of. I mean, that's why I do it. To selfishly say, what is Jesse really capable of? Honestly, what my potential is, really. Like, nobody says, I can't fucking do it besides me.
Realistically, who's gonna tell you that you can't do a 100,000,000 other than your own voices in your own head. That's right. So realistically, I mean, that's that's really what drives and drives me to do more. It's just like, why not? Why can't we do it? Who the hell says we can? My mom. Exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's ridiculous. Like, where did this come? I mean, because okay. So this this, like, I don't care about what other people think. I don't even care about what I think.
I'm just gonna push for the absolute most. Where did that come from? Has that always been in you? Did did you realize that this was part of you? You know, what started to really really drive it was I had cancer. So I got testicular cancer and rocked my Wolfe. Like, you know, some people get cancer and it doesn't really affect them. They just kinda like, well, I'm gonna go through chemo and and whatever.
And they don't really change anything about their lives, but for me, I mean, it completely rocked my world. Like, I mean, this I got it. I was diagnosed in the end of 2009, Okay. I end up losing literally everything. I lost my house. Wow. I wasn't able to work. It wasn't like saw the store. The they they told me Kimo wasn't gonna work. Wow. They told me, I mean, I didn't wanna do radiation because it's just like it's right on my private parts.
I didn't want it to basically fuck everything else down there worse than what it already was. Yeah. So I mean, I was kinda like, I was lost It really is. So I was really at the bottom of the barrel with it. I mean, ultimately, a lot of really good things come from that. I, you know, I met my Wolfe, actually, which is a Chaz crazy story when I was full of cancer. And but ultimately, the cancer gave me the the, like, urgency to Yeah. To be after it because it scared me. I'm like, fuck.
I, I mean, I I've seen death's door, and it was Yeah. It was coming right at me. So I just had the urgency of, like, man, if I'm gonna do this, I gotta do it, like, right now, and I just started doubling down. And, obviously, this is once I got better, which is about, January 2013 is when I'm like, okay, I'm going for it. Yeah. And literally since then, I was from negative a couple hundred thousand bucks.
To, you know, I I did just under a 1,000,000 Chaz 1st year, and I doubled it or tripled it really to 3,000,000 the following, and I just was hammered down, down, down to where, you know, we're on point to do 75 this year. Yeah, incredible. It's crazy. It's it's it's a fun Chaz journey, but I think people get too lax with that. They don't take that urgency of my shit.
We we're not here very long, but then, you know, when you look back on us and shit, 20 years, 5 years, years gone, and, like, they'll do, like, accomplish. Yeah. That's what I was hearing. As you were talking, it was, like, the realization of we don't know how much time we have. Right? But in perspective, it's not that much time. And if I'm gonna do this, what am I waiting on? Why am I why am I not taking big risks? Like, let's just go for it. What do you have to lose, really?
Because you that's you were on that porch of I don't have anything else to lose. Exactly. And I think that's a huge advantage where people get a lot of caught up in their minds. Their heads of, you know, they have a family. They have it. They they have all these so called responsibilities, and they get afraid to take those risks. Yeah. And I I mean, I've noticed that as I have grown and been married, we just had we had our first baby, like, yeah, you get, like, get a little bit nervous.
I'm like, fuck. I don't I don't wanna let these guys down or my family down. Yeah. But ultimately, it's it's another huge key to make sure you got a good partner that's gonna support you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, key. I would not be where I'm at if I did not have the relationship that I have. Give us just a 30 seconds on how you guys met because, obviously, you said it was in most trying time. I mean, So I'm I'm in Utah, and my family, my mom, and all my sisters are literally in the medical field.
And so they were freaking out. Yeah. They knew the seriousness. Like, every time I'd see him, they would cry. They would freak out. They would they would be devastated. So I literally left and I went to Alaska to get the hell away. Wow. And I found my wife in Alaska. And just You guys are just out there in the wilderness making a tent or what? There are some concrete. I just knew a guy, and they're like, hey. We need some help. Like, alright.
Cool. I mean, we'll go up there and and I I knew this person. I knew this person, and and I'm just meeting up. And I was super sick. We went on our first date, and I literally was just vulnerable. This could be. I've never been more vulnerable and never more raw. It's my first date. Literally on the cancer. So I was just I I I literally told her on my 1st date. I have cancer on this. This is where I'm at. You know, I did I had no filters.
You know, a lot of people have these filters on on themselves. Yeah. And she was just dumbfounded that I was being so real and raw with her about and vulnerable just where I was at. And she was literally the first person that supported me on my journey of cancer. So, I mean, she started doing all the crazy cleanses with me and all this, like, she literally was doing it step by step with me. And It's beautiful, beautiful thing.
Yeah. I mean, I'm just from an angle of, like, the family and, of course, they're concerned, but you didn't take that as support. Right? Not that they weren't. Right? It just it just what you needed in that moment was somebody like this to, like, get in the trench with you, walk through the cleanses, you know, be almost not suffering with you, but but, like, kind of like, you know, picking you up as you hobbled. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Wolfe. And and I I figured it would turn somewhere back to, you know, the the application of of how you live your life now. And so I'd love to use that. Feel free to stay in that vein of how cancer has impacted you and, like, the things that you eat or the the health perspective because those things tie into the business. More than most people give, credit to. Absolutely. They do. 100%. They do.
So saying that vein for me, like, what what was a good choice or maybe now choices that you're making that helped you really, like, grow this. I mean, you're talking about $75,000,000. Like, people are going, what? Give us some of those little things, whether it's health wise, business wise, just kinda give me some several things here that you're doing, that maybe nobody sees. One of the biggest things is is, I mean, I I definitely hired a coach and to help me balance myself.
So first thing, I mean, that's in my opinion, the business is a direct reflection of the owner. Yeah. Owners don't give a shit the way the owners represent themselves is the way that the business is gonna do. That's just my opinion about it. And I doubled down on myself of learning to heal the past, learning to get over my like all of my mental blocks, myself doubt. And so I literally doubled down on hiring the best coach that I could.
To just help me work through all of it and help me be able to take care of myself and be able to take care of my wife. And as I'm able to grow and in my own capacity, the business grows with me. If my mindset and my capacity is able to achieve a $10,000,000 business.
I mean, what else do I need to do, or how else do I need to change my thinking to get it to a $20,000,000 because you literally need to reinvent and change your thinking to get to a 10 to a 20 to a 50 to 75000000 to a 100000000 you literally need to reinvent your thinking or change your thinking. Yeah. Every time you evolved to that next step. Yeah. Because the same guy that got you to a 1,000,000 is not gonna get to a 100,000,000. Right. It's not.
So the principle here, obviously, the changing of mindset, but even for the eye listening who hasn't hit the 1,000,000 mark even, you're still saying that it's in their mind. And as far as, like, they could find someone, coach, or confidant, whatever. Some someone to help shift that mind set that they have. Absolutely. And there's a 1000 coaches out there. A lot of them are shipped Yeah. I mean, you probably see this as much as anybody.
It's finding something that literally inspires you to be better, that literally cares, and you can look at them and say, I wanna be where that person's at. I wanna think how that person thinks. I mean, it's kind of the same principle as far as you're not gonna take marriage advice from a bro from a divorced person or exercise advice from a a fat person. You know what I mean? It's it's ridiculous.
Gonna go and listen to a guy that makes a 100,000,000 or 200,000,000 and understand his thinking process of it. So simple. It's so easy to, like, what you're saying makes perfect sense. But what people often do then is then they just either keep doing their own thing and not willing to hear other people, or they're listening to people like you said that just really aren't I love your definition, which is inspiring you to be the best version of yourself.
Obviously, there's, like, tactical things that go into being able to do and change your mindset, all that fun stuff. But I think that's a just a super easy definition for for the listener to be able to go, okay. Does this person do they do they make me wanna be better? Did they make me wanna go to the next level? I think that's a huge component of what you're saying. Absolutely. And is that person really in it for them, or are they really in it for you? Right.
Is that coach, or is that person whoever that significant other, are they really are they really just trying to get money off of you? I mean, to to consult or to, like, motivate. I mean, that's fucking bullshit. That's the reality of it is that you gotta be you gotta motivate yourself there's a lot of times motivation is shit. You gotta discipline yourself, and you gotta wanna. That's the Yeah. Because if you don't, there's it doesn't matter if the other person is good or not.
Or bad for that matter. Exactly. It a lot of it has to come down to, your your own greater or lesser desire. That's what I'm hearing you say. Yes. Let's flip the coin here. What what was a what was a decision or maybe a point in time Chaz something you did that that was not a good decision at all? And that you can pinpoint and give us the juicy details of. I mean, I definitely ran into some brick walls by being as address as aggressive as I was.
Double down and double the business, and I was literally doubling that almost every single year. And I kept saying yes to the project the contracts or whatever I was getting, and they were getting bigger and bigger. And I never realized that it takes a shitload of money that people have a hard time find to grow a business. I mean, you're you're out. I mean, for me, it decides.
I mean, you're out 1,000,000 of dollars to grow that business with payroll contracts, staff, all that stuff that's comes into it. And there was one year that really I had all of the projects. They moved. They shifted permits. All this other crap. Literally, I had like 10,000,000 start all in 1 month and hit, like, it hurt bad. I mean, it was to a point where I was starting to rob Peter to pay Paul.
Like, I was starting to not pay vendors so I can literally pay my my labor, my my payroll, And fortunately, I I was communicating with my vendors tomorrow. I'm like, hey, I can get you a little bit this and a little bit this. And I knew that if I if I messed up on my my payroll, I'm fucked. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you're gonna get the job done.
Exactly. So I I no matter what, payroll in the month was number 1 and then I negotiated and I worked it out, I paid payments, I did whatever I had to do, but There was a lot of times like I Chaz no idea how I'm gonna make payroll. So it it was literally like the night before where Okay. I got this figured out and copied in here, and it was like that for a good another 6 months. It was that way, and it I was burned out.
I mean, that's so that's probably you could say it was done, but it was also a really good lesson of how to manage the finances and know that what jobs line up where and how to grow that business and how much money that actually takes. So that was really stupid thing I did, but also taught me a very valuable lesson to move forward with her. Yeah. I mean, obviously, I love the mindset of using it, for the greater good inside of that aggressiveness as you as you say it.
I mean, you're you're you had $10,000,000 of the project start in 1 month where, you know, folks listening probably have never done 10,000,000 total in in their project career or in their client career or whatever. And so the reality here is even though he was Chaz, because I know that moment. I'm actually kind of in one of those moments right now with one of my companies where it's like, This all came down to the same week.
I don't understand how this is possible, but I'll tell you what it does. What you just described is it literally puts you on the edge or out like, it you can't be in the box anymore. Like, it forces you to a place of It forces your mind to think differently than you have. Exactly. And I think that's actually what I'm addicted to. If I'm being completely honest. I a 100% agree with you. And totally, I'll I'll tell you this.
That's literally what I've done is is is I was addicted to pushing the limits, so I would almost push it and push it and push it and push it until it was literally like last year. I I was feeling like, okay. This methodology of trying to do it that same way is not gonna work from going from 50,000,000 to 100. Like, I am told to gonna screw myself. If I continue thinking that I'm just gonna commit to a 100,000,000, and we're just gonna make it work. You gotta be a lot more strategic about Chaz.
So that's something I've been reevaluating myself on how to accomplish it. So I I get a I'm a 100% addicted, and I know exactly what's talking about, but I know that your picture, you have to start modeling the changing Chaz way of thinking. 100%. Here's the good part that you just heard as the listener. Jesse is gonna do 75,000,000. And he's recently come to the conclusion that maybe I should be more strategic. Right? Like, it and, obviously, I'm I'm I I simplified all of what you sit there.
That's not you've obviously been strategic before now, obviously. But I love the broadness of the authenticity of that because It just it it what it should do is this. It should give permission to the listener. Just go for it, man. You don't have to be it doesn't have to be all lined up. It doesn't have to be the right plan. But but what you do need to do is, like, get after it, and you do need to create something. You gotta get the ball in motion.
You gotta have sort of a plan doesn't have to be perfect. That's what I heard you just say. That's what you just gave permission for everybody to say or for everybody to see. I'll I'll tell you the difference with it too. A lot of my people that work for me now I would commit to it. I'd say we'll figure it out. And I was always said, steadfast of like, we're gonna figure it out. We're gonna figure it out.
I don't know how we're gonna figure it out, but I know that I'm committed to, and I know my work ethic, and I know your work ethic, and I know how we can do it. I don't know how, like, I don't know all the parts and pieces and the steps, but I know that we will figure it out. And so that's what I can bet on is I can bet on me. Yep. I think that's where a lot of people you're you're dead on about people getting hung up on, having everything aligned perfectly to make that jump is shit.
I mean, you just gotta go for it. Yeah. So one of the one of the calls why I was a little bit late is I have a $27,000,000 deal. Biggest deal ever that that I Wolfe be doing. Like, he's coming over at my office to me. I've never done that. It's a big it's literally like double the the size of contract that I've ever done. And why not? Who the hell says I can't do it besides me? Yeah. You know, it's it's it's a beautiful process. Yeah. I remember, I'm, you know, I'm in my twenties.
I had 4, franchise locations in two states at that time, and a location came up Chaz I'm in Kansas and Missouri, and a location in Florida pops up for sale. And, was the first one to respond, like, yep. Let me let me get the numbers. Let me take a look at it. They ended up going with me because I was the quickest to respond. They they liked me, you know, the whole deal. And, I had so many people be like, we can't Kansas City must okay. That makes sense.
Like, all these together in Wichita, that a couple of hours south. That makes even sense a little bit. It's 3 hours south. Florida. Why? And my response was, why not? Why not? Who says I can't? Who says, And I'll tell you what, the benefit of purchasing, having, and buying, and even an individual location that does a million bucks. States away, hours away Chaz I cannot get to quickly at all. The things that I had to figure out quickly in my own mind and then around the team are invaluable.
Same things that you learned that that I'm talking about are gonna help you figure out the $27,000,000 deal. That's it. Or the the $100,000 deal that the guy listening right now, he's like, I'm only I only did 500,000 last year, and this guy wants me to do a $100,000 project or This is a $100,000 client that we're trying to bring marketing services to or whatever. And it's like, you'll figure it out. Like, obviously, there's a there's a little bit of, imposter syndrome. Right?
Like, maybe not good enough. Like, speak on that for a minute because you're in a moment right now of doing something twice as big, but you feel capable, but, you know, you're maybe you are, but you're not, but like, talk about that. You do because you have to sell that client the certainty of, like, yeah, I do. I I am confident. I do know what I'm talking about. Is it the biggest? I would admit of, like, yes, this is my biggest contract. I'm very confident that we can do this.
This is why this is how we've done it. This is what we've done in the past, and this is why I believe that we can do this easily. Or or challengingly and and point out the challenge, that you see that you know is gonna be a challenge of it. And I think the biggest thing is really just talking about it and communicating with that client. Like, yes, this is huge. This is what I'm nervous about. This is what I think we could do. This is how we can literally plan it out. Say, hey.
This is what I'm nervous about, but this is what I'm gonna do to see if we can make sure we can compensate for this thing that I'm worried about. Right. If that makes sense. Yeah. 100%. From the beginning, you've lived in this vein of authenticity. Right? Even from the beginning, you're like, I you know, my wife just couldn't couldn't have met or couldn't believe I was being so open. That's just what you just described. With a client who, a portion of his project is 27,000,000.
The the concrete portion is 27,000,000. Yeah. So you have to understand the person that you're talking to is dealing in 100 of 1,000,000. Yes. Okay. So you're you're it's a the the biggest contract you've ever done, you're talking to somebody who's dealing in numbers three and four times that you're used to. This is only a piece of his overall one project. He's probably got multiple projects, and you're gonna be vulnerable with this guy Chaz your answer.
And I think most people hear that and go, wait, what? I shit you not. The deer loves me because I am because because it builds trust. Vulnerability builds trust. And so when you're vulnerable with that guy, He can trust you because he knows that you're gonna speak to me, what's on your mind, what's going on, how you're feeling about it. And it's it creates a sense of, like, I can I can trust that guy? Yep. Instead of coming in there, you're you're acting like it's all good.
It's you you kinda come in with a puff chest of the the truly the impossible or syndrome month. We got this. No big deal, but reality of it, get your gut feeling of bike. This dude's full of shit. Yeah. You you deal with enough people. You Chaz start telling when they're full of shit and when they're not. Yeah. And when you just start addressing those things and create that vulnerability with your clients and you'll be real with them. To me, that's how you're creating those relationships.
Yeah. And so I mean, it's a huge thing. I think market wide in any business is you have integrity with what you're doing So if you say you're gonna do it, you do it, and you do everything you possibly can to do what you say you're gonna do. Now that's tough as I mean, that's tough as nails sometimes inside of business because there's so many different things that you're that's kind of out of your out of your control.
Yeah. But when your clients see you make the best effort that you can, you're communicating with them. You're gonna have a better success rate. By doing what you say you're gonna do, honor your word, follow-up with them, communicate with them, yeah, of your follies, what you can do to make it up, and be prepared to work your ass on and do not say you're gonna do. Yeah. On vacation, if if you have a fire, Like, put the fire out. Don't long vacation.
If you have to cancel your vacation, put cancel the damn thing, or you're gonna have to skip your kids game. It depends on really what you want where you're going with it. For me, that's just the level I'm committed to. Yeah. Yeah. I think that you know, some people will hear that and be like, oh, well, you know, work life balance, and I'm gonna be at my kid's game. And but I think the the situation that you're referring to is in the sticky. Right? Like, do what you say.
Fulfill what it is that you say you're gonna do. And in those moments, when it's a choice of integrity, your word, Like, that's what you're choosing. You're not choosing the job. You're not choosing the business over the family. In fact, I feel like in that moment, you're actually choosing the family because it's probably your son who's gonna take over the business or be associated to your big name at some point. And so I'm I'm not choosing the business in that moment.
I'm choosing what you just said integrity Yes. So that the legacy can continue. You're gonna wanna show your son or whoever that person is gonna be, that's gonna take it over. You wanna show them that. They do what you do. They don't do what you say. They do what you do. So if you're being an integrity, that's what they're gonna do. If you say it, it doesn't mean anything. If you're out of an integrity, but you say you need and integrity.
I mean, you know, Chaz if you're having any kids, say don't touch it, but you just let them do it anyway. I mean, it's bullshit. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. So we we've gotten into some really, really good stuff. I wanna transition to our speed round, and and get some little bit different angled questions here going. The first one is this. If you dwindled your entire business down, just into one trackable metric, what is it? Labor. K. Tell me why.
I think you could probably go a couple different ways with that. That's the biggest influx that and the biggest variable that I have with inside the business is my labor and my people. Yeah. That's funny. By far, that's the biggest thing. It's not about me. Yeah. If you if you know Chaz number, the rest can be controlled. Yep. Got it. That's good stuff. What book would you recommend, Jesse, that a 6 figure business owner read? 5 levels of leadership, Johnson. Awesome book. I love that book.
The next book, Keith Cunningham, the road less stupid. Is an excellent book. I love that book. I love Cunningham. Great dude. It hits the nail on the head. Yeah. We were just talking about that book a week or so ago, maybe 2 weeks ago in my mastermind and the thinking time Chaz he references, in that book and being able to specifically not only do it, but but define it and and look for it. So, anyway, neither here nor there, great book, great re great recommendation.
Yeah. Kind of continue the the mastermind vein there. Do you intentionally network or mastermind with other entrepreneurs? I do. So that's part of the coaching and that's part of the groups that that I'm affiliated with, which is wake up warrior. And, they do.
They have a lot of several other entrepreneurs, and it is good when you're in your box, you're in the moment it is good to literally unplug and go to a different state, different environment, different energy, and kinda just break it up so you can see Chaz 30,000 foot view and see, okay, realign yourself where you're going, what you're doing, and you get to just connect with other guys that are literally just Like, it's more of a camaraderie instead of competition.
And so it's almost like a recharge of like, okay. Cool. And they you can identify the struggles like you and I and any other entrepreneur, any other person, we have the same struggles. Now the circumstances might be a little different. Yep. But literally, I'm gonna experience betrayal. So are you, so are the so is the next guy and how we react to those is what's gonna separate us Yeah. How we are thinking about that.
Yeah. Yeah. The camaraderie the like mindedness, all of that, as you're talking, makes me think of some some deep relationships that I've developed over the years, and and that's That's exactly what it is. I mean, it's it's it's essential that you can go and have someone that can be that sounding to work for you. Right. Alright, Jesse. I got I got one more question for you. K. If you lost it all, what would you do? Start over again. Right? Doing the same thing?
I probably would have a smaller version of it if I lost it all. So I can teach my kids the work ethic in a in a in a trade because I feel like that's valuable to me and my family. So I I would want my sons to learn a trade. And then I would probably get more into I probably would try out a few different businesses. I probably try out real estate. You know, I I think food Chaz been become an essential part of the upcoming whatever the hell's going on inside of that pork country.
So I'll probably dive into some of those some of those businesses. So you you wouldn't roll over, it sounds like. No. I'm not gonna roll over. I mean, no. I didn't think that would be the answer. I I I also too, I mean, you've been in that position, you know, where, like you said, you were on the porch of what else is left. And so why not go for it? I see that moment being similar to losing at all. I'm here. What do I have left to lose? I might as well just go forward again.
Why the hell would you throw away that experience? Yeah. I just spent the last 15 years building all this, doing all this, You want me just to retire and just all that knowledge play? Like, I can go build this thing literally in half the time. Right. I mean, because you've already figured out the steps of it. Yeah. Literally. Jesse, you've been absolutely incredible. The mindset that that, you're just so authentic about it. It's it's crazy mindset, but just real at the same time.
It's not it's there's no fluff in in Chaz. And I just so appreciate that. How can someone connect with you? How can they find you? Get to know you better, or ask questions, that type of thing. By all means, you can definitely look us up. Our company is JROC JROC Construction. We are super busy, but, Chaz always find me just on on Instagram, as well as my my company page, Jira Construction. My name is Jesse O' Barlow. Where you can usually find me on Instagram.
And, you can direct message me there. You can have the the contact link on side of my my website. And we're very pretty responsive to it. Yeah. So, that's good. Good. Yeah. No. That's incredible, that someone at your level would even offer So thank you for even being here, for offering the value. The authenticity, again, just unmatched. We wish you nothing, but success in in your family, blessings in your business, all of that gets done. Thank you for being here. Thanks.
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