My financial independence or financial freedom journey, grew from a tragic event. I had my daughter. She was born on Christmas day. A few months after she was born, took her to the ER. They told me the most devastating news ever. My daughter wasn't gonna live until tomorrow. And that she needed a heart transplant today. The entrepreneur that is at rock bottom, just know your greatness is on the other side of that brokenness. I started over with $40.
This quintillionaire number, knowing your quintillionaire, you've even got it on your shirt. Tell us, Have it, Omry. What is this quintillionaire number that I'm supposed to know? Welcome back to Gathering the King's podcast. I am your host, Chaz Wolfe, and today on the show, I have Janine Jennings. She's the president of JP tax service and accounting. And she's a queen on a mission to be able to help business owners get their taxes and their spending on point.
Here are the three things that we discuss. 1, turning tragedy into blessings, an incredible story. 2, starting over from nothing, and 3, knowing your quintillionaire number. Please subscribe if you haven't already. Like this video, comment down below on how you organize your spending or maybe you don't. And you're gonna hear from Janine on how you can get that changed. Enjoy the show. Janine J9jjjennings? How are we doing, Janine? I am so dynamic today. And you like that work?
I do, but I've never had anybody describe themselves as being dynamic today. Like, woah. Can you give me just a little bit more on that? Well, how do you feel dynamic? I just feel I just got the chills too. I just feel thankful to be on your show, and I feel very blessed to be able to help someone and give them one nugget from our conversation that can take them from here to there. Yeah. We're gonna make some impact here today. Jenny, you have a super unique business.
Actually, I guess multiple businesses. Your background kinda comes from two worlds that have combined together. Yes. But you work with entrepreneurs in all different fields. Tell us tell us what you do. I am the president of J. P. Tax Service And Accounting. And the president of cultural differences salon. And I help entrepreneurs organize their spending save more money on their taxes and help them calculate and start simple retirement plans.
Yeah. And if anybody's listening, thought that tax strategy or organizing your spending, maybe sounds Stressful at all. That smooth buttery voice from j 9 over there is gonna just make sure everything's cool, comma, collected for you when it comes tax season. But in all seriousness, organized spending. What do you mean by that? What I mean by that is really just understanding where you're spending your money.
And so you can make informed decisions about your future, about your business, about your family, about how you want to retire because a lot of people don't know that. So if you organize your spending and have a clear picture of what you're spending your money on Yeah. Making informed decisions about your life is the best thing. Okay. So here we are. I'm listening right now. You're talking about organizing my spending. So I know where my money's going. Well, if I mean, I'm spending it.
Don't I know where my money's going? Why wouldn't I know where my money's going? Jenny. That's something that you have to look at every day. Like, we look at our phones every day. We have to look at what we're spending every day. Look at our net worth every day. We haven't been trained to do Chaz. Still working. That's right.
Okay. So the long term value, obviously, is making good decisions, but you're talking about pretty practically looking every day at transactions, looking every day at the amount of money, you said net worth. Like, that's a big thing that I'm about, but describe to our listeners. What is Networth? How do I calculate that? Why should I look at it every day? Give us some information there.
Your net worth is your Gross income minus your expenses, and that equals your net worth as a simple breakdown of it. Knowing what that is, helps you to make quality, quality decisions about your future. And how do you wanna live when when you get older because that is inevitable. And then when when do you plan on retiring? Right. Or what do you wanna do? When you get older. Okay. So you're talking about 40 years from now. I'm I'm 20. I just started my business, or maybe I'm 40.
And I'm like, oh, gonna be a hundred years old. Like, I'll think about that later. Why is it important for me to literally stop what I'm doing and go, okay. Maybe I should start calculating a few things here, paying attention to my net worth. Just easier for me just to I mean, I'd go out. I can eat a nice dinner. I pay for my phone. I could buy a nice car now. Like, I Chaz just don't have all the fun now, and that'll sort of stuff out later. Right? That's what people think.
And that's what people think. A lot of people outlive their money. I wanted to give one little tidbit Yeah. Kind of three steps. First, pick a date that you're going to die, then pick a date you're gonna retire, then go to ssa.gov, and figure out how much you're gonna be able to pull down when you do retire. You need 40 credits to be able to pull Social Security If you don't have that 40 credits, then you need to pay into Social Security.
And then once you pick a date, your retire, figure out where you're gonna live. If you're gonna have a house and pay a house note, if you're gonna pay a car note, kinda have it a gauge doesn't have to all be figured out. And then you can start a simple retirement plan by going to acorns.com and putting as little as $10 a weekend to a Roth IRA. Until you are able to put more in, and then you can open up a Vanguard account for free. All this is free.
And I like the S and P 500 because that is 500 of the most secure stocks. Chaz perform well. And you can put as little as $50 a month in or as much as $1500 a month in. To grow your money because you need a vehicle to grow your money while you're still working. Yeah. Well, as you're as you're talking to entrepreneurs here, I mean, obviously, I'm an entrepreneur. Thought for a long time about, you know, taking care of my money. And Mhmm. I'm not a penny pincher by any means at all. K?
There's a couple pennies that go here, a couple pennies that go there. Okay. Fine. But I will tell you, I look at the bank accounts every single day, I look at financial reports every single month. I'm I'm usually somehow some way trying to save up some money and make an investment. Whether it's in real estate or in some sort of a business growth play. But but not everybody thinks like that. And I didn't necessarily get raised in a in a in a home that thought like that. Yeah. Right.
And so how does someone like me? I'll tell you maybe how I came to that conclusion here in a minute, but From your experience, how can I learn to do these things, especially if I didn't grow up in a scenario where someone was teaching me probably like you teach your kids and how I'm gonna teach my kids? My my financial independence or financial freedom journey, grew from a tragic event. So mine just grew out of sheer desperation. I already had a son in. I had my daughter.
She was born on Christmas day. Oh, Wolfe. And a few months after she was born, she I noticed for a week, she wasn't herself. And so by that Saturday, I took her to the ER. And so when we were in the ER, They took one look at her and rushed us up to ICU. Well, I was bewildered because I took her to the doctor all that week. In. So they told me the most devastating news ever, which was My daughter wasn't gonna live until tomorrow and that she needed a heart transplant today. I'm like, oh, wait.
What? I don't Yeah. I don't. I was mystified. Yeah. And so I just fell to the floor because Chaz was the worst news that you can ever hear in you you didn't even think that was gonna happen. Yeah. And so we spent Chaz was April, late June, July. 4 months in ICU. And mind you, I had a son who was three. And I had a career as a hairstylist. And spending 4 months in the ICU, it's like, how am I gonna afford heart transplant. I still have to parent my son who goes at preschool. It was it was a lot.
So, like, spending all of my money, not having any money, having to still work to be able to afford rent lights, gas, water. Chaz was a whole lot. And so she was placed number 2 in the country for a heart transplant. And in October, she was able to get a heart. Well, the the transplant was a success. But through that whole time, she had caregivers and nurses, and I still had to work.
Yeah. I would love to be off, and I would have loved to have a surplus of money where I could just focus on her, but Right. That that didn't happen. I didn't have that. And so after the transplant, she she didn't make it, but it it just taught me a a real valuable lesson of Wow. I need a retirement. I need to have extra savings. This is a one time tragic event that if I would have loved to just have been there for it completely instead of having it work a lot and then go to the hospital.
So Yeah. I learned about retirements for self employed people how to save money how to spend my money, how to know not to just spend spend spend. For you in that moment, it was like, obviously, like, the, like, the water, you know, had just shut been shut off, like, possibly your literal water, but I just mean this figurative situation in life, like things stopped and just the music got turned off. And you started thinking differently.
How did you keep from like, hyper fear and, like, overthinking and giving up more than I mean, because Chaz the pressure pushed you into thinking about retirement for self employed people and how to how to not spend as much and, like, an amazing result, but I see it happening the other way for so many other people if they've been in that scenario. Why why did you go that way? Because I knew there was there was more from for to my life and for my life.
I just knew that was a moment, and that was a tragic moment, but it was god doesn't do things for no reason. So I just knew he had me. And even though I was real, you know, like, broken. I was broken. It it literally so that was in 2004. So just like, really now 20 years later, I'm able to really speak upon it and not get choked up and just, you know, heal myself and know that I I honor her by doing different things on Christmas day.
Like, butting off some balloons, but it just I just knew there was more for for me than Just being heartbroken and broken period. Yeah. What would you say for the person? Maybe they haven't had that same circumstance, right, happen, but they're Right. They're listening right now and they're broken. Male or female. Like, I I'm gonna encourage the dudes right now that are listening. I mean, they're broken just looks different. Right?
And so what what would you suggest for that person who's at that very, very bottom? Like, you were just talking about, like, where you probably didn't even feel like you could move, but you knew that you needed to. What it Right. What do they need to do, or what do they need to think? Well, they need to Give themselves permission to proceed for 1.
And forgive yourself for it not being your fault because a lot of people think, oh, if I would have done this, if I would have done that, it's not your fault. It's not your fault. Give yourself, you know, forgive yourself. Yeah. For 1. Then thirdly, What what do you want for your life? You know, what do you want? But I since I was young, 1st grade. I I I knew what I wanted for my life. I just was headstrong. Like, I knew 1st grade I was gonna be a hairstylist. And a and a neuron surgeon.
Oh, okay. We're gonna we're gonna make sure your brain works and then put some nice hair on you. Why those 2 completely different professions? I mean, let's be honest here, Janine, like, taxes and hair. I mean, they might as well be neuro neuroscience and and hair. You know? Right. So I just knew I had a design, and I liked helping people, and I couldn't give up on the people that I was supposed Chaz I'm destined to help. I love that.
The entrepreneur that is at rock bottom just know your greatness is on the other side of that brokenness. Believe in yourself. That you know you could provide goodness to someone someone else that is in your same situation, and they they will get inspiration from you. And You can save somebody else's life. 2. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, belief belief is the bedrock if we're gonna use this this rock bottom type, language is the bedrock for everything.
And that crosses over backgrounds that crosses over industries situations that you've been a part of or that I have been a part of. We we do have to have belief. Like, actual faith is the works that are happening after the belief has taken root. And so Yes. Truly, actually, things don't actually happen really until the the principle of faith is in place, whether that's, again, in yourself or or in a creator.
What we're talking about here, we could we could do we could go the rest of the show on, but I think that your message is clear Chaz belief I mean, I was just I was just recording with with another guest earlier today, and we ended with don't stop believing, you know, the song from Journey. In that moment, What other option did you have other than quitting? And you already knew you weren't gonna do that. You had already decided back in 1st grade. I'm not I'm not a quitter. I'm gonna roll over.
You know? Yeah. I'm not a quitter. That just taught me from that experience, that just taught me I can withstand n t thing. That's right. N t. And it's not anything. It's n t a thing. Tyler Perry in here. Hey, Kings and Queens. Chaz Wolf. I wanna talk to you about something that's super important to me. We put a lot of time and effort. We, meaning myself and my team, into this podcast into the content that goes out every single day.
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I was at the hospital, like, 12 hours, then I would I would go after work, stay all night, go home, take my son to to school, go to work, pick my son up, do his homework, go to the hospital. So it was a it was like a whole system. And so after me and my ex during that time, he didn't have the capacity to do anything. He was just so devastated. Yeah. Yeah. He's grieving. Yeah. So, you know, the divorce. I'm like, I just walked. It's like, I oh, okay. We're getting divorced. Alright. You know?
My daughter passed away. I can't handle anything, you know, sir. How has that served you today? Like, in business, multiple businesses now, older kids now, and and they're starting to prepare for their lives and you have this bulletproof vest on now where you walk in and you're like, come at me, bro. How does that help you? It's helped me to just stay consistent in people like a consistency in any business. When you go to Chick Fil A, you know, you're gonna consistently get. I like sun joists.
It's gonna taste the same every time I get it. Yeah. People like consistency, and that breeds that just breeds referrals where people know that what they can expect from you. And I feel the worst has already happened. You know? Yeah. It really can't get any worse than that. Losing a child is one of the most devastating things that you can ever do or could ever happen to you. Yeah. And so That's how I look at it. Like, I I was already hurt. I was already broken.
So I can muster When when I got divorced, I was also going to college. So let me backtrack. After my first daughter's funeral, I got pregnant. So I had another daughter. So I think that also helped me kind of deal with what happened as well. So I had my son and then my daughter who was 4 years of they are 4 years apart. Yeah. Yeah. There's components that that make up how we cope or how we how we move on.
Yeah. And and I think that just to kinda, you know, put a nice little bow on this is that every entrepreneur. And even at later stages, I've I've I have been categorized as successful and had a thought like, what if I lose it all? You know? And I think everybody listening has had that thought. No matter how successful they've gotten, we all know that, you know, may it could just be, like, a couple of decisions away from the edge.
Not that I actually feel like I'm a couple of decisions from the edge, but What if? And I'm always playing that game, not out of fear, but out of, like I don't know. What Because it could happen. What would I do? Exactly. Like, In that scenario, losing the child or losing the business or whatever, how do I react to that? How do I how do I deal?
And I think what the message that you're given is the same that I would tell a young entrepreneur or someone listening here today who's maybe not even a young entrepreneur is the resilient factor of, look, I don't know what's gonna come at me this year, next year, but I'm gonna figure it out, a, the what you and I are similar in this way because I know God's got me. But secondarily, I've done the work. I'm not a perfect person. I'm not by far of who I'm supposed to be yet.
But I've done some work to where it doesn't really matter what comes this way. Yeah. Maybe I'm not even ready, but I'm going to figure it out. There's not gonna be anything that keeps me down for too long. Alright? Maybe for a little bit. Yeah. But not forever, for sure. Would you add anything to that as we're kinda putting a bow on this little piece? Well, I had nothing after after her funeral. Like, nothing. No money. And so I'd had to just think like, okay.
I still had clientele, but who wants to do clients after, you know, You just lost your daughter. No one, nobody, but I just forced myself to take appointments. So I just started with one client. One client who came in, it was a $40 service, She tipped me in from that tip. I was like, okay. I can do this. I I can I can do this? I started over with $40. Yeah. Wow. And just was able to know how it can serve someone and and provide value to their life.
A lot of times, entrepreneurs, that that is resilience. It's Doindling it down, not overthinking the whole situation, but dwindling it down to what's right in front of me, and what do I need to do next. Yes. You know, for for you in that moment, it was do this person's tax return or whatever that or a hair rather. And I'm gonna I'm gonna make it the greatest hair, and she and she gave me a tip. And then and then I'm gonna get another person in my chair.
I remember this was this was many years ago, but I had seven locations of edible arrangements franchise. I still own a couple of those, but we're getting ready for Valentine's Day. And it's the biggest day of the year, and I also had gone back to work in my sales, profession. And so which might sound a little odd. You owned 7 companies, 1,000,000 of dollars in sales, but I I had systems and everything was on, you know, like, really working and good, except Valentine's Day.
And Chaz year, I'm working full time. I'm a top, if not the top producer Chaz year in my job, and running these 7 businesses, and we're having our second kid, and I'm getting ready for Valentine's Day. And I literally remember sitting there. And I think if my hair would have come out, it would have I would've been involved because I was I didn't know what else to do. There was just I had I had crammed the calendar and my plate so full. And I was stuck. Mhmm. But I had to keep moving.
And for me in that moment, it was just I gotta I gotta get through Valentine's Day. I gotta get and and then even broken that down, it was I gotta find 10 more drivers for this store. Okay. Great. I'm gonna let me do And then let me move to the next store. Let me find I gotta find 15 more folks for inside the store at that location. Okay. Great. Like, check. Like, just check check, and you just gotta keep moving down the line. At the end of the day, go to bed tomorrow, work on the list again.
Until you can build a little bit of a rhythm, until you can I mean, you had multiple clients, probably then now have multiple chairs, now I have a a whole salon? Like, it eventually looking back, you can you can go, wow. Like, this this worked, but in the moment, you're head down and you're just, like, trumping through the, like, just one step after the other. Right? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
And so me wanting to be a hairstylist since first grade, then When I was having my son, I Ohio, it is cold in the winter, January, February, large. It's slow during during the hair. And I'm like, okay. Well, what can I do to supplement my income for a short amount of time? And so Just as soon as I said that to my cell, H And R Block had came on the TV and said, you can become a temporary work from January to April 15th. Said. Okay. Well, that's what I needed.
Yeah. We'll offer the free course and you pass your exam. And you become a tax preparer. That's cool. Oh, hey. We'll do that. And so that's what I did. And so I had already knew how to be in someone's personal space doing doing hair. And so I was able to transfer that care to being in someone's personal financial space. And so the clients left me, but back then, they only paid $5 an hour. Yep. Said, I don't know who's working for for you all for $5 an hour.
I said, no. I'll finish out the season. This is what I saw myself. I'll finish out the season. And that's it. I I just needed to make some extra money because I was having my first kid. And so that next tech season rolled around and The people that I had debt who I prepared their taxes, they called me because they knew I was a hairstylist, so they found my number. And they said, are you are you doing Texas this year? And I said, yeah. Yeah. Sure. I sure just opened up. Because I sure am.
So I got some tax software. I started preparing taxes, and it started with just one phone call. And so I would do both from January to April 15th. It was already slow during hair. I was able to manage my time. And then after April 15th, it's I was able to do hair full time. So after that, I really liked because I Chaz already knew how to do my own, I guess, housekeeping and and financial stuff.
So I was practicing on my hairstylist friends and telling them about tax strategies they they can do throughout the year. Telling them how to be able to write off things or what things they could write off. And it just grew from there, and eventually it's spiraled into me getting a degree. John Carroll is one of the best schools ever. I love John Carroll University in University Heights Ohio. I go back there and judge entrepreneurship contract competitions all the time.
And so it it is spiraled into a a full time text business. Yeah. Firm, I should say. Wolfe, let's use that as a little springboard here. Got a couple questions for you around tax and just financing and stuff before we wrap up the the show. You you've got in here this this quintillionaire number knowing your quintillionaire. You've even got it on your shirt. Tell us. I have it on my shirt. What is this quintillionaire number that I'm supposed to know?
Well, your quintillionaire number is your number that you need to know for when you retire. I Chaz to put a a unique word on it because people have a survival number or they have a, like, a freedom number. I said, well, Okay. Real way, just call it something different. It's quintillionaire because that is a above a billionaire, above a trillionaire, and it is something unique. Like, people ask me all the time.
What's the what's the a quintillionaire said it's a word that's above trillionaire Chaz 18 zeros. Yeah. Yeah. And so just knowing it's just knowing a retirement number that you need to know or for when you retire. What does that look like to you, you know, for you? What is your when are you gonna retire? How much are you gonna need when you retire? Right. Because you're going to you're going to retire. Yeah. You're not gonna work forever. Then you're gonna die someday.
I mean, I that's very blunt, but that's the truth because we're aren't immortal. Yeah. That's right. So We've got entrepreneurs listening right now. They're they're, you know, their ears are tickled by quintillionaire, but what you're saying at some point is that the game is going to slow down and that they won't be able to produce at the set same level. Obviously, if they are build a big enough business, then that's part of that lifestyle number of quintillionaire.
But some of the strategies that that you're talking about are being prudent. Now going back to some of our conversations before is like, how do I make good decisions now about money? And so as an entrepreneur, what are some of these things that that make up this quintillionaire number. So we got the got a guys, you know, 30 or a gal listening. They're thirty years old. They've got a good little business.
Maybe they're making a 100 or $200,000 a year, and you're gonna help you're gonna help them come up with their quintillionaire number. Let's let's walk through the exercise. Okay. It is a formula. It's on my website under resources, and it should say survival number. Love it. Now for your Freedom number let me look at this. You would take your income and you would minus your expenses and you will get a number.
Okay. For example's sake, say you make 200,000, you will minus your expenses, of 36,000. And then that you would come to a 164,000. Okay? Now that that is your total net income. You would add your side hoods hustle, which would be about, let's say, 10,000. So a 164 plus 10,000 is a174,000. Alright? So you would add 3% for inflation because everything insulates We're capitalized. Sometimes a little bit more. It's a little bit more. Yes. And then you would times that number by 2.5.
Which is your freedom price. Like, you need to bank 2.5 over what that number is. Okay? So Chaz is a 174,000 plus 3 percent for inflation, which is 5220 and you would times it by 2.5, which you would get a 179,220 times 2.5, which comes out to be $448,050. So that's an example of your freedom price of what you would need to make in order for you to be I don't I don't wanna say I don't wanna use the word comfortable.
Sure. But in order for you to make quality decisions about the quality of your life. Yeah. To make the same amount of money in a future circumstance. And and we can get in we can get into good decision making, right, because there's some people who make 200,000 that spend 205,000. And that I see it all the time. That equation doesn't work. I see it all the time. In that example, you just gave the 200,000 and you only spent 36,000. That that equation can work.
I've seen that equation on my own sheet of paper years ago. I was like, Let's let's let's increase this number and keep this number the same or decrease it and take this middle piece and start, you know, putting into good work. Okay. So So I've got this idea of whether it's retirement or being comfortable, being able to continue my lifestyle at some point. Again, give me just one last piece here because I'm young. I'm I'm like, you know, I'll get to it.
Give me one more urgency piece of, like, why should I really be thinking about this? Why should I even stop this podcast, reach out to you, and help have you helped me work through this? Right now, even though I'm only 30 in this example, If you're only 30 in this example, why don't you just take the time to know? I I use a app called, mint.com, which it's it's changing over to Karma Credit Karma. But mint.com, you put your bills in, and it gives you your net worth.
If you just do that one thing, maybe you don't wanna do anything else, but if you just look and see, what you're bringing in and what's going out and you can have a net worth, you'll then start thinking about, oh, okay. Well, How can I make more money? I wanna increase this number. I wanna have this number less more. Yeah. I think I think that the the message here is look. You're either drifting. Life is happening to you, or you are creating your own circumstances.
And and I I don't know if any, you know, people that are are winning in finance or in tax by just drifting. And so it's it's gotta be pretty intentional and well thought out. Right? You do. Okay. Well, you you have shared some not only practical stuff with us today, but also just some really heartfelt stuff about your story, but then also a message to entrepreneurs everywhere that if you can do it, they can do it, but also the resilience piece. I just Chaz was really, really amazing.
We had another queen on the stage, not that long ago. Her show just came out a couple days ago, and she did a TED talk on resilience, kinda the resilience queen, if you will. And I'm just seeing yeah. You saw that doctor doctor T. Anyway, the the message is the same. Right? No matter the Circum chance. The message is keep going. Be resilient. Keep pushing. And so I you already gave your website, but give us give it Chaz people find you? Where can they find you on social?
Maybe they wanna work with you? Maybe they wanna pick your brain. How can they find you? You can submit a contact form on my website, which is jptechservice.com. They can follow me on Instagram, Jenning's Peyton tax service, That's one long word. They can follow me on YouTube, JP tax service in accounting. We'll put all that in the show notes as well so that they can easily connect with you. You have given a whole spectrum of value here day. So I just wanna, appreciate you for that.
Thank you for what you're doing in entrepreneurs' lives. Not even just here on the show, but just as the people you're in tax season right now, actually. Tax season right now. Surprised we're even on this call. I've got some some really great friends of mine and clients that are in the tax space. And, shoo, it is a it is a a sprint. So blessings to you and your family as they're putting up with you Thank you. Through all of this time. And, hopefully, April 15th we'll get here soon.
Thank you for being here. We appreciate you, miss J Nine. Thank you. I appreciate being on the show. Just blessings to you and all that you're putting, 4th entrepreneurs everywhere. We appreciate you being here. Thank you. Thank you for listening to gathering the King's today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away.
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