On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. The Red Pill Pathway, if you really understand that first movie, and what's going on in that movie is not about an individual who's the chosen one. It's for all the chosen on. Don't believe anything that people tell you. Don't be like me. We're past that. So what I tell people with Co Pathways. Don't copy me. Copy yourself. Figure yourself out. What's up everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe, Gathering the King's podcast coming back to you here today.
Here I am with, King on the stage, Larry Call. My man. How are we doing? Great, Chaz. Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate you being here. Last year, I don't know the exact number. I I should have already figured that out, but it was a 300 ish episodes that we recorded last year. And you are the 1st 2024. Like I said, this is probably gonna be coming maybe February or so, but, all good. I'm excited for 2024 as I assume that you are too. I I am.
I think 24 is gonna be a different kind of year, and I'm excited to see how it unfolds. I'm I'm interested to see why you think that, but we'll get to that here in a second. Larry, tell us what kind of business that you have. So I have a few different businesses. One of my businesses is a sales outsourcing company. Which became a passive income business about three and a half years ago. I have somebody running that for me. It's a virtual company.
So I started virtual businesses before people were really doing that. So I got in early. Awesome. 2nd, I focused on, what's called, I call now red pill pathway, from the matrix, which is a business for entrepreneurs who are looking for freedom, satisfaction, and happiness without making any compromises. So there's some of us out here who are just got that stubborn entrepreneurial thing, and we refuse to conform, to other people's expectations.
And RedPO Pathway is designed in 8 weeks to help people, do that. I love that. You know, get all that I want with not giving up my values or, like you said, compromising, I think, is actually a lot of, at at least that's the people who start a business, probably a lot of our listeners. Now whether they've gotten to that point, I think, is maybe a little different. Maybe something that we'll cover here today.
I know you've kinda broken down the entrepreneurial journey and maybe some different stages. And we can maybe get to a few of those. But before we do that, I wanna know. I mean, obviously, you've had a successful career and biz and multiple businesses, but you're still at it. Like, at this point, obviously, you're helping other people, but, like, but why? Why are you an entrepreneur? Why won't you conform?
It, you know, it it goes back to being 5 and just recognizing that there was less inter and what people were teaching me and more what I noticed to myself. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And and I think this is an entrepreneur thing.
And I've started to think a lot about creative processes and and artists, and I also think a lot about scientists And I think this next generation of entrepreneurs that really blow things open because we have a big opportunity coming because we're in an point in the dynamic of entrepreneurship right now. And I think 24 is an inflection year. Are those of us who really embrace that uniqueness, piece of not copying anybody. So what I tell people with RedCo Pathway is don't copy me. Copy yourself.
Figure yourself out. Yeah. Understand how things were. I call it the entrepreneur reality system. You need to know that. Yeah. But you find your own way through it. And that is where the big success comes. I love that. I wanna dig into that a little bit. When I think of some of the things that I've done, I mean, I've been a part of a franchise So that's, you know, like, you you you on purpose, copy people. That's that is what a franchise is.
But all the way over to even gathering the Kings as a peer group, like, I know that there's other peer groups. There's other, quote, unquote mastermind groups, and I and I didn't do any research. I went I went to the board, and I was like, what would I wanna be part of? How does it run? What's the feel of it? What what, you know, and and of course, I found a couple that you know, I would say maybe are in the same frequency.
And that's exciting, but, like, I know that I went to the board and I created this thing based out of, you know, what was was in my mind. So how how does an entrepreneur get there? How did you get there? How did I find myself at the board going? I don't wanna duplicate somebody else. I I want it to be mine. I think there's phases to this and predictable patterns that can be understood and then leveraged for our advantage.
If I look at the people who have been the most successful in the world, if I look at the Roy Disney's, the Steve Jobs, people who have created something new that didn't exist before, Rockefeller Dale Carnegie, and you go into the Napoleon Hill characters, Jim Marrone, it's because something happened and in those inflection moments, they made a radical decision to listen to themselves. Yeah. To get to that requires a lot of preparation.
Yeah. So going through that phase of mastering the struggle of being an premur, mastering, making effort, feel effortless, mastering being up for the challenge is necessary. Learning how to do that is necessary, and there is a copying phase for many people that may be required it's never been me, but I think for some, that will be necessary to build those skills. I have a natural talent for it. I don't think that's needed, but it is needed, to learn some of these basics.
Yeah. And I'd I'd say I would agree with that. And I also agree with that even if you're not maybe born with it Chaz you can develop it, which just sounds like you would agree with. When I think of my time in the franchise system, I still own a few of those, but it was this, you know, way for me to itch the entrepreneurial, like, let me get out of this corporate thing and go after it, but I still had, you know, I had the bumpers on. I was still bowling with the bumpers.
And and I grew really fast I was the youngest guy, the, you know, most look at, you know, blah blah blah, but it's like, all of that, honestly, was just a big learning ground. So, like, everything that you just said resonates with me even, I'm hoping that it's resonating with the the listeners. And do you typically find that once they once they get to that point, like, maybe it's a another business or maybe they re formulate what they're doing in business? Is it, like, another level?
There's a interesting dynamic that seems to be consistent around leaving behind that, training ground moment. And it can be it can be a lifetime. You can get to this in your fifties. It it doesn't matter. It's nothing to do with age. It's it's about the individual. It's good. Where There's a there's a an exhaustion from it. There's just a feeling of something's missing. This isn't quite right. I know I'm here for something bigger and better.
And if you listen to the storyline, there's always some kind of massive collapse or failure in the story. And I think that's where the gift is. And some of us are up for that. And that's where we were talking about courage earlier, and this is the moments of courage. Yeah. And I think I look back on my own story of those moments of courage, and there's been so many of them.
I remember why I was running a business, that Chaz a massive crisis around the most important salesperson quitting on me and our most insignificant income product line dropping us, because I told him the truth about something, and I wouldn't do something they wanted. So I created this crisis for myself based and that led to this woman quitting on me, and I'm sitting there in the saw in my office at 10 o'clock at night feeling totally overwhelmed by the p and l. And I'm looking at it.
I'm trying to figure out what do I do? Like, I know I can find a way to make this work, but I don't want to anymore. Yeah. And I remember sitting there and just giving up. And I felt like I just don't wanna do this anymore. And the minute that happened, answers started to come, and I stopped trying to figure out how to do it. And I got into action very quickly intuitively and did the right things, which were things I did not know how to do at all. Before.
It was completely radical shift in activity and decisions in action. And I was willing to have the courage to leap into something new. And I think this is the entrepreneur adventure is There's just these moments where we have to leave behind what we think we know. Yeah. I I think that I mean, well, if every if anybody's paying attention, listening right now, they're like, oh, yeah. They they've they've had those moments unless they just started maybe this year.
I I They probably already had it, though. Probably. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. Okay. So what I'm let me just do a real a quick recap, and then I wanna transition here. I wanna use this as a segue, but, I'm hearing you say that, you know, we we have these moments courage or opportunities, really, to be able to kinda go to that next level and it takes courage. It takes maybe leaving behind the known stepping into the unknown, which we hear these things.
We hear them on podcasts. We talk about them. We read them in a book. But, like, what's tangible about that? I know that this is probably something, well, what red pill does. So maybe use this as an opportunity. First off, tell us why the name red pill give us a little bit more there. And then give us a little on ramp here too. Like, is there something tangible that this means for me in this moment? On September 20 2020, I had a, a, a, a shift that I, oh, I call it quantum leap.
And I've learned a lot about this in the rearview mirror of what that is, what that experience is like, and how to understand it, and how to get it. And it happened due to a manufactured problem in crisis in my own mind Chaz it was very tangible where my business, my sales outsourcing company, was going through a a fake financial cash flow crisis. And the reason I say fake is that the solution for me was just to go back and do the work with the clients myself again.
And I would have had to let some people go to do Chaz, and I would have been back to a decent income. Right. I couldn't do the idea of having to go work with clients again was a it's just I just couldn't do it. I didn't wanna do it. And I remember feeling like I just don't know what to do. I feel totally lost in this situation. I don't wanna go backwards, but I don't know how to go forward.
And I don't know how to solve this cash flow, crisis in a way that will allow me to keep this management team. There is a little voice. There's a connection inside us. That we gain access to when we learn this, what I call the entrepreneur reality system, and how to activate it. And it works like chat GPT. And I can give people a a a way to do it right now. Is there is a moment of silence, which is the beginning of creation.
This is how artists do Wolfe Nelson writes songs by stepping into that moment of silence and experiencing the writing the song. This is how every single thing that has been created in this Wolfe, it's big time, important, and unique is created. It's a system. I stepped into that moment, and you Chaz, too, by just asking yourself, what do I want? Don't answer. Listen. For the answer and follow that guidance. And that's it. You will know what to do as you step into that.
That is a major life change. And when people are ready for that, they know they're ready Yeah. I love that. There's practical books on this or even think time, you know, on a weekly basis, you can sit down and and practically put yourself in a situation where you can allow, downloads, you know, to come to you.
And I think all this is fantastic, inside of, thinking grow rich Napoleon Hill talks about the mastermind principle and in essence, that's where we're kinda hinting at, but even inside of being agitated by other people's thoughts, Like, right now, they're listening to us talk, and there's a mastermind being created right now. And there's an opportunity that people have when they understand that they can't have really anything until they first have other things that they don't currently have.
Right? Yes. That's right. That's right. I want the this is interesting, though, because, this is a we might we might get a little too left here, but or, you know, just left field. I'll bring it back if we do, but there's this there's this place where I personally know that there's a bunch of stuff that I don't have yet, which gonna learn from you today. I'm gonna hear on another podcast. Like, there's other pieces that I need.
But then there's also a belief that everything I have is right here, and I already have it. It's not nothing's nothing nothing that I need needs to be created. It's already here. It just hasn't been formulated properly in my thought. So why why don't you tell us your opinion on this on these kind of two different angles? So the way I answer the question to stay out of left field is not to answer it, because the answer is yes. However, This is important.
Don't believe anything that people tell you. Don't be like me. We're past Chaz. The b like Mike Era, the Michael Jordan error. We're past that now. We're in a different era. So the error is Chaz is a belief Look it up in the dictionary. A belief is somebody tells you something and you accept it as true for you without examining it. It's a belief. The secret answer underneath the belief is your own knowing this experience. You're knowing what's true for you is always right.
The problem is courage and confidence. Yeah. So clarity confidence and certainty comes from recognizing that you have all the answers now. Already, all you have to do is allow yourself to challenge your beliefs Yeah. Yeah. I think that you pose a super simple way to step into it, which is what do I want? And then and then quiet quiet everything down and just, see what what's in there.
I think that, you know, and before we hit the record button, you kinda mentioned that, you know, there's different you know, different walks of life. Maybe have different names for these things. But, you know, generally, we're talking about principles that, you know, have worked forever. And and maybe people call them different things. But, generally speaking, we're we're we're talking success principles. I wanna transition into, you know, your, how you help clients inside of Redpill.
We talked briefly about some steps that people go through, talk about where they start out, and and then let's see if we can go up a rung or 2. So these are the 3 transformative shifts. The first shift is about the awareness of of recognizing that we're moving beyond the era of sales and marketing. We're we're moving into the era of experiences where That's right.
Starting in the seventies with the positioning, uh-uh, revolution figuring out who's your audience and how to differentiate and how to get them to do what you want and then how that moved in content and digital marketing and analytics. So you were able to figure out all the time what would work. So that was a a sort of a fulfillment of that whole era. And what I think we're finding now is everyone's wise to it. So the table stakes are are so high in that that it's a diminishing return.
So this new era of people are coming at an elevated awareness of who they are, what they are, and how these art, you know, reality systems work. Like, we've been hinting at sort of this inner journey intersection with entrepreneurship. That's the 2nd big revolution, and it's expanding very quickly. Crossing the chasm in my judgment in 2024 like, AI did last year. The 3rd revolution is in the business models.
So before we were copying business models around financial investment and leveraging people and then it evolved into this idea of content and leveraging content. Now that is starting to end Wolfe, even though all three of those things are valuable, but what we're learning now is how do you use these systems to create a high margin business based on who you are. So if you're a creator, do that.
But if you're not, if you're more of a natural coach or a wingman, or or someone who wants to be in the trenches of people, don't build a business that way. Build a core using these technologies for leverage of your time. So you're spending your time actually doing what you want and your pricing model should reflect Chaz. So there's enough margin in the p and l. So you're able to do this. So, again, it goes back to not copying. So those are the 3 big shifts that they were seeing.
So for the guy who has he's hearing all of this listening right now for the first time going, okay. This sounds cool, but, like, What do I do tomorrow, Thursday to, like, try to try to get out of this? Or maybe it's even a a a reference to the matrix here, but How does he break through from the 98 to the 2 from his thinking or just being able to even see, like, okay. Like, I see that journey. Larry, but, like, what does that mean to me in 2024?
So for people like this, the idea is, how does that become easier and more fluid, my absolute just cert conviction around this is it is about the power of the entrepreneur, reality system and not understanding it, but started to to do some of these things that are principle based. So knowing how to do that is part of knowing yourself.
So we can't we we don't have time to get too deep into this, but the red pill pathway, if you really understand that first movie, and what's going on in that movie is not about an individual who's the chosen one. It's where all the chosen one. So the idea is choosing yourself.
Yeah. Yeah. It makes me think of actually, when I was, so w 2 employee, you know, early twenties, working a corporate sales job and becoming a sales leader and sales manager and sales director and I I looked around at my peers, and it was I actually had the feeling, very similar to what you're describing here of, like, you guy like, I'm not even, like, Doing great. You guys just aren't even doing what you're supposed to. You're gonna make me get promoted.
Yes. And and so the, you know, the thing in that moment was, of course, I was trying to be the best. And, of course, I was trying to excel and do Wolfe. And they just weren't. They just were just clocking in, clocking out, and it just, you know, just, like, you're, like, just just okay with the struggle and okay with the there's just I've just resolved to this is how life is. And at some point, you wake up and you go, no. No. I'm not gonna have that.
And then it becomes like super starkly different because you start paying attention. And you're like, I'm not even gonna have to really try that hard. That is just more of a an awareness of going, Wolfe, everybody else is just not even trying, and, a little bit of effort really starts to propel that upward Chaz next motion. Right? Hey, Kings and Queens. Jazz Wolf. I wanna talk to you about something that's super important to me. We put a lot of time and effort.
We, meaning myself and my team, into this podcast into the content that goes out every single day. And if you have been getting any sort of value or insight from this, We want it to be able to reach other business owners too. So we would love if you would like, comment, share, leave a review, post, share again all of the things on social media, on all the different platforms, or even on the podcast mediums of Apple and Spotify.
We would love to be able to get our content into more hands, more entrepreneurs so they can grow their business as quick as possible. Together, we are building a community of like minded entrepreneurs who are committed to growing their businesses to new heights. So let's do this. Let's help each other. Let's help each other grow. Yes. And and I call that the road less travel. And the the road less travel is not crowded.
And if you wanna move into the top 4%, top 1% and even above that to the point 0001 percent or transforming into freeze and expand beyond their domain. It is a matter of simply decision. It's saying I'm going to do Chaz.
And then recognizing that there are certain principles and rules that you will discover Chaz give you an understanding that we're living in a kind of an upside down world where a lot of what we've believed to be true is what's keeping us from getting what we've really always wanted. And I I think if you look at certain people, there's something in there that can can can break through. So for me, as a kid, I lived in, I would call shame, fear, grief. Like, I I I really struggled a lot as a kid.
I was actually in a 12 step program in AA from the ages 17 to 24, which is when I started breaking out of Chaz. But I did not fit in. I could not find a way to fit in, and I blamed myself for it. I took on that belief system is I'm a disease that needs a cure. I'm a a I'm a problem in search of a solution, all of which was completely raw. Yeah. But that's possible for anybody to do.
That isolation, you know, like, the recognition that I'm different And I think entrepreneurs in general feel this way. But then again, going up a level to high performing entrepreneurs, however, you can define that. You just start looking around. You're like, wow. There's just not there's not that many of me. To to your point here and just kinda almost feeling like, well, jeez, maybe I've done something wrong.
Maybe I'm maybe I'm the one that needs to come back down or settle back down or not be as intense or not be as obsessive. Not knowing that this is how I'm created. And, actually, I should press into it, not away from it. You said an interesting word. I was gonna bring it up, and you just did. So I'm I'm thankful it. You brought up the word fear and that you experienced that as a kid. We all experienced it. This is how our this is how, like, biologically were kept alive all these all these years.
But I'm curious. What do you think about fear? What do you think about the listener overcoming fear? Does it really play that big of a difference? Give us your thoughts. I I think there's only 2 real estates of emotion. Now I'm not talking about feelings. That's different. But in terms of emotion, there's really only 2. There's feels right and doesn't feel right. So these are electrical signals that are being sent to us, and one of those signals is fear. And that's the doesn't feel right.
The other signal is feels right, which is experienced differently by each individual. I think for most people, it's a feeling of accelerated openness of just knowing that this thought I'm having this action I'm taking this impact I'm making is right. Right now, even if I'm trying to talk myself out of it. So one of the things that I really got to master over a couple of years that I started seriously in November of 2022 was this regulator system. Of really tuning into this feels right.
Doesn't feel right. And recognizing the difference between that and a feeling state. So these emotional indicators is the inner knowing of what's right for you to get what you really want. And the problem is you can't ask anybody else. Right. You're the only one. Who can do it. You've given us you've given us some hope here. I think that, you know, I'm paying attention. Would you call this your gut, your instincts? So I've noticed That's a great question.
So there's 5 ways I've identified we access this regulator. So there's and this matches up with a lot of, studying that I've done. So I'm I'm pretty convinced it's true. And then I've experientially seen this with people I've worked with and with my up. So there's thought, feeling, heart, visualization, and creative objects. So what you do is you start to recognize where that information is coming to you.
So this is important to avoid the guru trap of someone who had these experiences succeeded and is now saying do it like I did. Mind or thought is different than mine. So thought is basically it just comes in like a like, in an idea. And it just sort of tells you this is right. You wanna lean into Chaz. And you wanna follow that guidance and and prompt it like you would do chat GPT. Just ask it. What are you saying? Why do you want me to do this? You begin a inner dialogue.
Socratic that's what socrates taught. Socratic dialogue with self. To get to truth. This is what you wanna do. Now for others, it's not gonna work at all because they're accessing it through their body. So they have a feeling in their body of this is right for me. Now where does that lead? Then you know. And when they explain it to me, I don't understand. I just know, oh, you're doing it in a different way than I do.
So if I'm constructing my program, I'm not saying to people do it through thought, like I do, I'm saying figure out how to do it yourself. You cannot explain that experience to somebody else because we all experience it a bit differently. So heart expansion and connection is a third way visualization or people where they get images in their mind.
So George Lucas is probably a visual connector where he just saw Star Wars as a movie in his mind in his imagination, and he just said, I'm gonna create Chaz. And that image in his mind taught him how to do it. He connected into it, probably Walt Disney, maybe. You know, same thing. You saw that theme park in Orlando when everyone else just saw, overly priced Marshland. Now I don't know him, but I have this feeling that's how he did it. Now I don't I don't look that way. I don't.
So I know how I work. When you know how you work, you can lean into this and use it to your advantage. Is there a way that the listener can find out how they work, whether they're thought, heart, feeling Well or visual? Yes. I mean, Anybody can do this, but the price here's the price you have to pay. You have to learn how not to be distracted First, second, you have to learn how to be with your cell.
3rd, you have to have confidence in your cell instead of find trying to find somebody who will teach you how to do it. I have a system in terms of how to do it, but I'm just gonna show you how you can do it. Right. But I'm not gonna do it for you or tell you anything. Because if someone he does, it's not right. So simply, what I would say is pick a time Pick a place every day to be with yourself and ask yourself that question. So the I I wrote an article on medium.
If you go to my website redpolepathway.com and you scroll down to the bottom, there's something called the entrepreneur experience. And it's I asked Robert Robert Oppenheimer who created, the Manhattan project and led to the atomic bomb. Which is basically turning matter into energy. So I asked him the reverse, how do you turn energy in the matter? And it's an 87 step creation process, basically. And step 1 is is existing in this moment of nothing.
So the moment of nothing inside you does not require you to meditate to get to that moment. It requires you to make a decision to go be by yourself for a while. Now you need to do this every day every day and expand that. Now that's a certain discipline. For someone who can do this. Anybody on the planet can do this. Is this special? Because some people are better than others or smarter is for that's ridiculous. Like, anybody has access to this. That's right. That's right.
I think that's super practical. I appreciate you sharing. I wanna I wanna ask you one more kind of maybe in the weeds question, and then I've got, kind of a question here to to wrap us up. You've talked a lot about decisions. And, and being able to kind of make a decision to kind of break out of of that X X X Axis for you in your journey, what was Chaz? Was it a good decision? Was it a bad decision? You kinda talked about maybe having courage in those low moments.
What was that decision for you where, like, you saw things differently and maybe you started to do things differently after it? I think it came from a feeling of consequences that I didn't want to experience. It was a recognition that if I don't go all the way with this, I'm not gonna succeed because I couldn't do what I used to do. So the approaches that I took most of my life that had worked, and led to success would not work anymore. I just couldn't do it, and I knew that.
And much of the society was telling me I was wrong. So it was a it was an inner struggle of listening to myself, a lot of the time. And what happens over time, if you do this long enough, is you recognize that you're teaching yourself all the time. So it's not some voice talking to you.
It's not some outside influence or any it's yourself is you're connected to yourself and you're teaching yourself through an inner dialogue because when you you think of this idea of getting to know yourself, talking to yourself, that is a dialogue in a relationship. The connection of that relationship when it's done consistently gives you all of the answers. So we kinda started here, which is we already know all the answers.
Mhmm. And this is true, and we are unfolding something that we are in a way Already aware is there for us Chaz potential, but we just haven't paid attention to it yet because we're chasing something that someone else did Chaz we think we want. It's kind of simple in a way. But it's just backwards from what most people are doing. Right? Yeah. Exactly.
I mean, even just from a, like, talking out loud, you know, I I I can't tell you how many times where someone's giving advice, and I've done it multiple times where you're like, I'm actually really just talking to myself. If you hear me, Fantastic, but really, I'm just giving advice to myself in this moment. I used to do the same thing when I was a sales trainer back in the day. I people would ask me. I was top sales producer. Why why do you spend time doing this?
Because I know you can make more money just making another sale for yourself. I was like, actually, the benefit here, yes, I'd you're right. I wouldn't get paid more if I just made another sale Chaz opposed to helping you. But by helping you, I get to coach myself three times a week in a very intense way because I'm I get to coach you and 2 other people right behind you. I think when you hold on to that, it's like, okay.
Like, I'm so or I'm after the better version of myself or a better, you know, a better, self awareness, and it's gonna take like, just a click. And I don't know when the click's gonna happen, but I'm gonna keep after it until it happens. That's that's great.
And and I I I wanna go into that a little bit before you ask your wrap up question because you get to a point where there's a recognition that I'm here to perfect myself through supporting individuals that need me by allowing them to have the experience they're having and sharing mine with them, period. So it's it's the ultimate selfish ad in a way of I'm here to perfect my cell through you Chaz the student. Literally, I have a Facebook ad out that's active right now.
And it's a it's a group of some of the, you know, gathering the king's members, and it says something like no gurus, just real entrepreneurs trying to help each other. Just, you know, keeping it simple on the ad, but That's everything you just said. I'm like, yes. Because I don't wanna be the guy. I wanna be part of the guys or or gals, I wanna be part of the solution for me for you because it's gonna take little pieces. And I think when you understand Chaz, truly Yeah.
That we're just on a big old journey, And I'm just gonna need to keep getting pieces along the way from different people in different seasons, different friendships, different, you know, family members, different podcast, you know, guests, whatever it is. It's like, I'm I'm just looking for the pieces I can put in my backpack and get rid of the ones I don't need anymore and on the on the journey we go. Okay. So last question here, this is gonna be it's always my last question.
If you could roll back the time and chat with the younger Larry, tap him on the shoulder and you lean down to him, don't know how old he is. I'd like for you to tell me. But what do you what do you tell the younger, Larry? What do you what do you what do you whisper in his ear? You're right. And they're not. Pay attention to yourself. You're actually are right. Don't doubt it. Yeah. It's good. What do you think would be different today with the younger Larry getting that message?
I think I wouldn't be as successful. And and I I I think that I see a reality for me that other people can't quite see yet And I know that that success is inevitable, and I think it required the stories I've got of rolling sample cases through the airport, flying up to department stores when I was in my twenties, selling stuff they didn't wanna buy and selling insurance to businesses door to door when I was in my forties and cashed out on a business was trying to figure out how to get
a state farm or insurance agency and then realizing a year later, I was gonna get 1 because I got through the nepotism stuff, but I didn't want 1. So now I understand how financial services and insurance works and how that kind of sales work. All those things are necessary. And if so I I have one thing where I said, you know, the money there was no money in the bank account. And I thought there was gonna be a $100 in the bank on a particular date, and there's no money there.
And I was like, what happened? Why is there no money there? Well, what did I get instead? My fear of criticism, I disappeared. My historical impatience minimized, my feeling of needing to be validated by other people went away. So that, experience in that getting when I wanted got me Chaz, and which is, you know, people pay a $100 for that with coaches. And I got it by not getting the $100, I thought was gonna happen with this product launch that I did. Yeah. Yeah. Super powerful.
The conversation, I'm sure, could go on for hours. I can I can tell? But if the listener is intrigued about what you do and how you help entrepreneurs through these stages. How can they find you, where can they engage with you? So redpillpathway.com is the starting point, and there's 3 ways to create an experience for the world. There's no, like, and trust phases.
So if you wanna know me more, scroll to the bottom and there's links to my entrepreneur experiment and the entrepreneur experience, which is podcasts and articles and things at different levels of depth, depending on where you want, like is get involved in some of the things I'm doing. So I have a LinkedIn live on Friday. I have an event I run over 2 weeks called the entrepreneur experience. If you go to the site, you'll see all that. You can sign up and come and get to know people.
3rd, trust, If you're ready to talk, just make sure you fill out what's on the calendar, and there's no point in meeting anybody until you're ready to talk to them. So check out the no like stuff first, before you waste your time and my time on a call, but I'm happy to talk to anybody who's ready. For what they don't know and don't need to know, but you'll know. And when you're ready, schedule. Yeah. I love it. I love it. You you've given practicals. You've given you've given theory.
You've given it all to us, really. I just really appreciate not only just your sharing here today, but just the wealth of experience and clear study that you've done that you can bring just knowledge to the table here today. And like you said, for the right person who's listening, let the ears hear what they hear today, and, for whatever action that they wanna take, we'll put all that in the show notes, make it super easy for them. Larry, you, you have a great mind.
I appreciate you sharing it with us here today. Blessings to you and all that you do in 2024. Thanks for being here, brother. Yeah. Thanks, Chaz. I really appreciate it. Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple business in multiple different industries and now interviewing over 2 or 300 other very successful 7, 8, and 9 figure business owners is Chaz It's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs. In fact, we are putting together 1000 kings, specifically who are grateful, but not done.
We're intentionally assembling kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe Chaz in the pursuit of excellence in those areas, that it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy. So if that relates and and resonates with you, and you know that you need people around you, sharp, qualified other very successful business owners. I want you to go to gatheringthekings.com.
Want you to take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit. To 1000 kings. Talk soon.