On today's episode of Gathering The. There's a lot of remote opportunities now. Do you see people going back to the office and less position. I've failed over and over again, but I just won't quit. And you can't fail if you don't quit. We're crushing it to The point in life. The journey job stacking is not meant to be brutal. It's not meant to be here's 4 years where you're gonna absolutely suffer.
Job stacking is a way to be secure and have that consistent income while working towards better life. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe, Gathering the Kings podcast, coming back to you here today with another king on the stage. My brother, Zach Wade, how we doing this morning. Kings excited to be here? It's Monday morning, fresh. I always think another level of the guys or gals. That booked their podcast 8 AM Monday morning, but here we are. Oops. We're ready to rock and roll.
First thing, it's 9 o'clock, I guess, your time, but Yep. We're ready to roll Monday morning. Absolutely. Zach, tell us what kind of business that you got, my man. We position ourselves as a marketing agency. We actually work strictly B2C with marketing professionals, and we teach them how to essentially JobStack, bring back financial security, and consistency into their income and reach ultimately reach the goals that they've set out for themselves both personal and professionally.
Okay. So you're working with individuals who wanna make more money, and you've got a specified method that you call job stacking on how to do that. Right? Hit the nail on the head there. I wanna know Why? What wakes you up every day? What's really down deep in Zach to you've obviously got a level of success. My team wouldn't let you on the show. If if you hadn't, so Why are you still after it? More people need to know about what we have going on. Digital Gathering, Internet. It's global now.
And so that means we can reach almost 8 billion people. I need them to know about what we got going on because it's truly changing lives and putting people on better situations. And, that's important. I've done the whole I'm gonna do it for myself, and it's not all that great. And I've done the whole, you know, do it for others, and it is all that great. With a few businesses that I've started in the past, it was all about the money.
And with the independent partnership program, which is program where we teach you how to JobStack, it was, like, the opposite. It was just like, hey. We have this really awesome thing, and we need people to know about it. We wanna help people do it. As soon as you're getting incredible results of people going, oh my gosh. Thank you for teaching me how to do this, and we're gonna get to the what you teach here in a second, but you're getting results clearly. Yeah. Absolutely.
We're crushing it to be point Kings line. Alright. Tell us what it means The JobStack. Working multiple full time remote jobs at the same time. So you're already multiple paychecks for multiple different employers at the same time. We introduce, a little bit of an element that we consider to be special in our offer, which is outsourcing, leveraging our marketing team, so that you're able to stack even more jobs and scale your income as much as you can. Yeah. Love that.
And so tell me the difference between someone job stacking and or them being an agency themselves, really, in just helping multiple clients. Is that in essence what this is? I think if you had multiple clients. Right. The difference is these are w 2, full time, direct for employer. Right? You're working within different businesses. For these employers in a variety of industries where you're showing up to team meetings and you're collaborating with coworkers. Right. And you're hitting a paycheck.
You're not on you don't have them on retainer, things like that. Yeah. Okay. And so the skill set that these folks have learned in whatever varying industry that they're in, what you're then showing him them how to do is leverage that skill set across multiple clients, or in this case, where it's just a w 2 employer. So same kind of format, though. It's just a little bit different pay structure. Am I understanding correctly? Yeah. Absolutely.
We'll always recommend to stick with the skill set that you have because at the end of the day, the job hunt if you Wolfe, is it's not easy. And interviewing is something that you gotta go through and, you know, you're Kings to the skill set that you're best at, you're gonna you're gonna convey that. That's there's a lot of remote opportunities now, especially since COVID, And so I'm sure your business has ridden that wave quite a bit, do you see, the industry changing at all?
Do you see people Kings back to the office and less remote positions? Is there any sort of a trend in that direction? There definitely is. I just don't think it's in a part in maybe more so, the older generations are leaning that way, but the newcomers, the AI companies, the web 3 companies, they are at full remote. You're saying, generally speaking, in marketing, there's a certain way of Kings, and I would ascribe myself to that thinking. Like, why would I go to the office if I don't have to?
My team members are all remote. I'm recording right now for my studio here in my house. What what is this? Like, why is certain companies maybe stuck? Or is it forward thinking? Is it just new? What's the major difference here that you see that people are willing to stay in the remote lane or maybe certain industries that you're seeing? Why are they prone to that? If you can still have the culture and the same productivity, the same level of alignment, that you have in the office.
I think for a lot of people, remote work Kings just easier to balance, especially with a family, especially with Kings. I know employers, at least the smart ones, want to give and provide their employees with that lifestyle where they can have that work life balance. After sitting 3 hours and traveling every day. Yeah. Depends on what what city that you're in. That sounds terrible. Don't got I don't have anywhere. In fact, I was just talking to a buddy of mine the other day.
How we were talking about the usage of the car and how it's just for a remote worker. We still drive a few places here and there, but it just dramatically changes everything if I don't have to go to an office every day. I think that there's a fine line between 80 years of remote where and just looking at your laptop, your Gathering camera instead of associating with humans around you. You know?
You think that The end goal for your client is to JobStack forever for 80 years, like you said, or is it more of a, like, short period of time onto something different. What's the ultimate goal for your folks? Yeah. So we always like to say job stacking is the short term. Strategy in order to reach the angle. Right?
So your job stacking to get to where not necessarily where you really wanna be, but where your ultimate goals right, whether that's starting a business, scaling up the side hustle you've been working on traveling, retiring, starting a family, Kings like that. Yeah. And so in essence, there's a short period of time where you increase activity or increase the input. So that the output is greater so that you can use the output in something different.
Yeah. But the important thing to know is And I think this is often overlooked is the journey of job stacking is not brutal, and it's not meant to be brutal. It's not meant to be here's 4 years where you're gonna absolutely suffer, that's more of the business side of it. Right? Job stacking is a way to not only enjoy the journey, but also be secure and have that consistent income while working towards Better Life, if you will.
Sure. Yeah. I I'm glad you said that Chaz far as the maybe the distinguishment between that and business. I wasn't really sure how the journey was. You've made it clear for us. On the business side, you've got entrepreneurs listening to you right now. And maybe they're not interested in job stacking. Maybe they have somebody who is in their life, but for them, particularly, they're running a business and Chaz been rather difficult Chaz you just described. What is that person focused on?
Think of the last couple of years in your business. Chaz have you been focused on to stay away from burnout, to stay focused, to keep the end goal in mind? Some of the same things that you're teaching your folks, but a different method I think with entrepreneurship and job stacking, they're similar, but there's another level to entrepreneurship. There's another level of time. And dedication that you have to have. Right.
With job stacking, the goal is still to have a work balance is still to be able to enjoy those happy hours after work and take those weekend trips Wolfe reaping the benefits of the multiple income streams. For me, at least, entrepreneurship has been no work life balance. It's just work. And so that really is the divide between 2. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that every entrepreneur listening right now would be like, yep. Zack's a real entrepreneur. Thanks. Thanks for making it clear that you're real.
Because that's the general story of most entrepreneurs. What have you done as far as making a good decision in this last couple of years that's really been able to help you through Chaz? Something you look back and you're like, wait a minute. When I started doing this, it really started knocking the dominoes over for me for my success. What was that good decision?
I would say, and this might be pretty corny, but like, a podcast almost like a motivational string of speeches that they put Gathering. This this guy on Spotify. And I listen to 10 of them, my dad, just to heat myself up in there, like, 10 minutes long. I wake up. I listen to a couple of them. And I just love them. I just love them. Yeah. Everything they say is so true, and I just connect with it so much.
And when I started Kings that, I think Chaz really just got me excited because I don't communicate a lot with other entrepreneurs or connect a lot. And so hearing air stories and being like, this is exactly what the I'm going through right now. Yeah. It's powerful. First off, I I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm not a Spotify guy, but I have the same thing on YouTube. There's a couple of, whatever they call it, based on beat your chest. I'm a I'm an entrepreneur. Rah. You know?
Yeah. And you're right. I oftentimes listen to those while I'm working out, and that's first thing in the morning for me. And so I guess my blood pumping sounds like it does yours as well. What do you think is inside of that. Like, I talk about here on this show transfer encouraged. We talked about that a few minutes ago before hit the record button. I really do want the listener to receive and go, okay. I Zach, I hear Zach's story. He's struggling too. I can do it. Let's go.
Which in essence, what you just described. You describe. You listen to someone else's story, struggle, victory, whatever, and it gives you inspiration or courage, what do you think is in that? What's the principle there that you're walking away with every day, and why do you keep doing it? I think the principle, at least for me, would be The went through all those hardships, and they suffered every day for years and It may be not suffering. It was the right word. Maybe it is. I think it is.
Yeah. I think it is. But they eventually got The might have failed over and over again. I've failed over and over again, but I just won't quit. And he can't fail if you don't quit. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I did a a call inside of Gathering The Kings mastermind group just last week, and we talked a lot about desire, chapter 2, and Kings grow Chaz on desire. And there's a particular piece in there of the equation, and it talks about persistence briefly.
There's a whole other chapter on persistence, but it mentions the little bit of a formula there where you have to match it All this other stuff and desire with persistence, but not just persistence. It was persistence that does not recognize failure. And that's a whole another I'm just gonna keep going. It's no. I'm gonna keep going because I can't fail here Chaz long as I keep going. It's what I'm hearing you say.
I just Chaz the mindset and the energy and the focus of just, oh, just one step after the other, I never stop, then how can I fail? Of course. Gonna get to your failure here in a second, but and we all fail, but if I it's it's a mindset of I if I just keep going, then how can I actually fail? Right. St1 quit. How's that played out for you, though? What's that look like on the daily where you're like, now the day. Here we go. I say this one thing, and I say it to myself.
My feel myself complaining, oh, I wish this would suck more, and then I just keep more. That's that's your transitional phrase. I wish this would suck more and then you just keep reg on. If we're in, let's just roll up the sleeves. Let's dive all the way in. Might as well. Where where did that come from? One of The best string of motivational you know, you just sew it Gathering, and it's like Yeah.
Some of them are 4 minutes, some of them are 20 minutes, and it's just you got Jocco, Eric Thomas Right. I'm not sure who's here to bring on Chaz demon, like, all the generals in there. Yeah. All those guys, and I I can't even tell the the difference in the voices at clients up for a few, but, yeah, it's just awesome. Yeah. It's good, man. I think that's the mindset that you're building out of the result of listening to that consistently, not just once, not just twice. Not every couple of days.
It's it sounds like you're addicted to it, which is fantastic. The is this is what we do as entrepreneurs. It's called obsession. We're extremely obsessive natured Kings. And I think that once we embrace that, it's okay because like you said, I think it's supposed to be like this. And if you want the work life balance, do the job stacking Gathering. Zach can help you shoot. Yeah. He can help you learn how to do that sign up for his program. If you're an entrepreneur, then guess what?
You're building something bigger. Is what I'm hearing you say. I do like to clarify Chaz. Job stacking for me and for a lot of our partners, is a means to an end, and that end is starting the business. And a lot of entrepreneurs that want to start the business, like myself, don't go for that work life. So they're all lit with JobStack because they wanna get to, you know, the point where they can start the business as fast as possible. Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah. You've mentioned Work Life Balance a couple times here. It's interesting, though, because we'll have people listening right now Chaz have wife, Kings, we've been together almost 20 years. Married fifteen. We have 4 kids. My life looks extremely different. Than yours. However, we can both be obsessed and be all in, and so I call it work life obsession Chaz opposed to work life balance because as an entrepreneur, I genuinely believe that we are a describing to a different lifestyle.
It it's all integrated. Can you talk about that for a second? Like, even as a young guy, even as a guy who doesn't have kids yet, maybe, how does your life look like this as opposed to, I got my job, and then I go to work out, and then I hang out with my friends and something a little different. Yeah. I just think you're always I know that's just like a typical answer, but it's so true. And I think that's why it's used so often. It's just you're never not thinking about the business.
You're never not coming up with new ideas. You're never not. You wanna talk about it too. Right? Like, I find some of my warmer friends with the 9 to fives. Like, they wanna talk about everyone else. Right. And what this bat and the other person is like, I'm gonna talk about my business. I wanna talk about business in general. I wanna hear your ideas. I wanna hear Yeah. What's new. I think that's the biggest hit branch. Hey, Kings and Queens. Chaz Wolf.
I wanna talk to you about something that's super important to me. We put a lot of time and effort. We, meaning myself and my team, into this podcast, into the content that goes out every single day. And if you have been getting any sort of value or insight from this, we want it to be able to reach other business owners too. So we would love if you would like, comment, share, leave a review, post, share again, all of the Kings.
On social media, on all the different platforms, or even on the podcast mediums of Apple and Spotify. We would love to be able to get our content into more hands, more entrepreneurs so they can grow their business as quick as possible. Together, we are building a community of like minded entrepreneurs who are committed to growing their businesses to new heights. So let's do this. Let's help each other. Let's help each other grow. Yeah. As I've built Gathering the Kings Mastermind group.
Yes. We've built a podcast, and it's incredible, and we help a lot of entrepreneurs. But on the on the peer to peer mastermind side, probably one of the biggest moments for me was that as I was putting extremely great people in the room. People in different industries, successful business owners, ones that are authentic and real and love what they do, and they wanna help other people. Everything that you shared, they're doing it for other reasons other than just making money.
It's more about legacy or or future impact or whatever, right, all the commonalities that we've already discussed today. What I realized is that the I oversought the value of just putting them in the same room. Because The can have conversations. Like you said, I just wanna talk about it. I just wanna talk about business. I wanna talk about your business. I wanna talk about your ideas. I wanna talk about how you do work life. Obsession balance, this thing. I wanna hear about this.
I wanna hear about that. Tell me about this. Tell me about that. And you have these entrepreneurs that come Gathering. Like, you and I even are right now. Like, we love conversations like this. Yeah. And I just totally over sought the value, where I think at the beginning, I was, like, trying to bring curriculum and structure and teaching, and here's what to do here, and here's the next step, and most of the entrepreneurs. We love that stuff.
We we always wanna grow, but most of the entrepreneurs that are successful in business, they just wanna be around more successful people. And that's, like, the majority of it. It's just like, hey. Let's just get together and be, like, do this thing right here. Which is why I've really loved the podcast. We've done almost 450 episodes like The, and I love every single one when people ask me how to how do you keep going, man?
Dude, I get to I get to talk with guys like Zach about business, and it freaking fuels me. I I schedule The at 8 AM on Monday because the rest of my day is gonna be jacked because of this conversation right here. You know what I mean? Yeah. An analogy could be where I'm gonna appear with your buddy. Hey. You love doing that. You would never stop doing that. Right. Let's get to that bad decisions, Zach.
Tell me what you did you were just a terrible decision, bad impact, something that you would never do again, something that the listeners can learn from, and stay away from. Financing or funding my business with credit cards. Oh, okay. Give us a little bit more detail there. Give us the No. Leader right there. It's a cliffhanger. Yeah. No. It's just not a good idea. There's plenty of other ways that I recently learned to go about it. That's a lot harder. Yeah. It messed up my credit.
I it's very difficult for us to get funding Kings traditional way. Yeah. Now And so if I had to go back and do things all over again, I would have never touched a credit card. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna poke you a little bit on this because I I can give some background here as Wolfe, and I think it would be really helpful for the listener because to operate without credit cards, it it, like, that's probably not gonna happen, but let's be strategic about what it is that we're doing.
So tell me I'll tell you here in a second after you answer this question. Tell me what you didn't realize about the credit card usage that now that's super applicable that the listener probably doesn't know either. I think it was that I I used the credit cards, multiple credit cards Chaz a really good credit score, so I leveraged that. Mhmm. And I had assumed I made an assumption that I would be able to pay off all of The.
All The charges that I racked up basically maxing out a card because it'd be like, oh, we're fine. 1 6 months, we're gonna be at X Y Z. And I think that little bit of an maybe it was ego. Maybe it was just confidence. That's it's a risky game to play. And if you're gonna use credit cards and, of course, like you said, you can be smart about it. Yeah. I think that really the risk analysis that you're talking about is just do I take on debt?
Really, whether it's credit card, whether it's a business loan, whether it's a friends and family loan, you're talking about look at the projection, truthfully. Don't look at the next 6 months or 6 years for that matter, and just pie in the sky and rainbows and and unicorns. Right? What would you suggest that the listener does, like, really practical in that analysis that would help.
Whether they're considering using a credit card, they're considering getting a business loan, borrowing 500 k from grandma, whatever. Take your time with the decision. Do your research, and I mean, weeks of research. A lot of young entrepreneurs myself included The don't really know a lot about raising capital and how to get funding, you know, which is the best to do when you're at x yzpoint, I didn't do the right research. I didn't do the property diligence. It was a mistake.
Yeah. Yeah. I I too. Cause here's you've mentioned it. At the beginning, you can even if you have a credit score, you can get maybe several credit cards, but they're all gonna have fairly low limits. 1500, 5000, even 75,110,000. I had several businesses before I was 30, and all of them using tens of 1000 of dollars a a month. Yeah. We were purchasing product and selling it in our stores.
I would get a credit card that had a $5000 limit on it, and we would use it, max it, pay it off, use it, max it, pay it off multiple times a month even. I'm thinking The is great. Hey. I use it. I pay it off. I earn points. This is fantastic.
But even still in that, we were being crushed on the credit score side because even though I was paying it off 2, 3, 6 times a month sometimes, by the time it came to their little analysis period, it was full, maxed every single time, and I didn't recognize that part of the game. And so The the truth is that you wanna use them and keep them 10% or lower when specifically when that date comes.
And that's gonna be based on the credit card and the statement date, and so I can't give you the exact formula on that for the The. But The ultra conservative way is to use only 10% and no more and just pay it off every month. Obviously, there's entrepreneurs like you, like me, who Like, what else are we supposed to do? And even if you're in that position, because I've talked to even several of my members in this. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I've got a $10,000 card.
I pay it off every other week, or I pay it off every Friday to be aware of when that data is so that you can make another payment, which is super cumbersome and labor some. And it's just, oh my gosh, this is ridiculous. However, it will preserve that credit score so that you can go get more traditional funding, whether it be regional from a bank or even from a national bank. Anything to add there?
Said exactly how I would have done it going back would've been using the I would still maybe use the credit cards because at that point, I wouldn't have been able to leverage revenue Right. Or anything else, really, very difficult to get. Just capital as a startup. But with those even 1000, 5000, 10000 limits, it it does help. Right?
And so as long as you keep your credit score, at least decent, and help tank it by just maxing credit cards out, then like you said, it's going to open you up for the opportunity to get more funding bigger amounts Yep. When the time is right, when the time comes, when you have the revenue that you could show. Yeah. What a lot of the other things that they look for. Yeah. One other thing I'll say, I'll I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this.
I've always subscribed to the thought of get funding while you Chaz, not when you need it. Because when you need it, oftentimes it's like, oh, there's a thing here in the math equation that doesn't work, And it's usually when you don't need it when everything looks perfect. Would you agree? Yeah. I would absolutely agree. It's very difficult to get funding when you have Gathering to show in the bag. Ciao. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's a that's an interesting concept.
I'm gonna ask for funding because I need it. But you don't wanna give it to me because I need it. Desperately. Right. Isn't that everything in mind? Yep. Yeah. But because I have plenty, you feel comfortable giving me more. If you are fortunate enough to build a relationship with a good funding partner to keep that relationship because as that develops, they'll continue to do a lot of things for you, a lot of favors and give better, better and things like that.
You don't have to shop around, like, and all of that. Yeah. There's leverage in the relationship. Right? Before your number, The eventually you become a relationship. If Right. Properly used, what's been some of your tactics there to keep and build a relationship, whether it's with a finance guy or any other vendor? Everyone, whether it's company, and this is we talk about this a lot with the whole ethical side of job stacking, Everyone's got their own loaded.
Everyone needs something everyone Chaz. Everyone has value to give, but they also have value to get. Right, making sure that what that person or that company wants they're getting Yep. And vice versa. So It's actually partnerships, partnerships, usually kind of the show relationships. It's what it's all about.
Yeah. I'm hearing you say inside of the relationship, whether it's you and your financial guy, whether it's you and a vendor, whether it's If I'm learning how to JobStack, and I'm Gathering, is this ethical to have multiple jobs at once? Really, what I'm hearing you say is Chaz long as The boxes of what they need and what I need are both being checked, then why wouldn't it be? Right? Why wouldn't this be mutually benefiting as long as both parties are getting benefit.
And specifically in the job stacking world, it's okay. If I'm checking all the boxes of the job description and because in the laws of success, Napoleon Hill talks about doing the things that we do plus 1 or doing extra Kings, You always do more than what you're paid for, and that's just a a success principle. If you're doing all of those things, are they gonna care? Are they even gonna ask? If you're a top performer. Nope. Absolutely not. They're gonna want more of you.
In fact, they're gonna be shocked that you have another job. How do you do all this? To teach everybody else. Right? Like, you've just made yourself so valuable to them by just producing the things that they want. Am I hearing you right? Yep. Absolutely. Creating win wins. It's good, man. Alright. Let's talk about let's talk about the ability that you've had in a short amount of time to have an online business be successful.
You've already said that obsession is like you're saying you're all in on business. How do you see in the future being able to do family at the same give us a little bit of projection from your perspective. Yeah. That's definitely something, I'll be honest. I'm not I was a young entrepreneur myself with, at the point where I haven't necessarily moved out of the day to day of the business, I'm still learning about how to do that. And so I'm excited to be able to get to that point.
But for right now, I wanna be out of it. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. But I know there's gonna be a time where Kings from a personal experience recently, I just got out of a relationship because I was doing the business over relationship and so on. Yeah. And you're right. I think there's seasons for that. I also think that there's alignment too. You're talking about a relationship, whether it be family, wife, whatever. They're gonna have to understand. Yeah. Absolutely.
And just like across your company with your family and friends alignment is is so important. It's true. Yeah. How do you help The, like, a double edged question here, but we're talking about alignment. I'm asking how do you create alignment, but give us through the language of you teaching your folks in your program, how to job stack, there's gotta be major alignment there that you're showing them how to give to each one of their employees. Right?
There's a major The. We've just gotten talking about it that where they need to show up well at all of these places. And so there that's alignment. How are you helping them do that? Which inevitably is gonna tell me how you I think, quality checking with just what's going on in there on a weekly basis. So Not only are we making sure that we're aligned with partners, but we're also making sure that what they're doing is what they're supposed to be to put it bluntly.
And we do that by just a consistent communication, meeting with them every week. Kings sure that they have everything they need. They have direct access to all team that Chaz support The. Because at the end of the day, you could have a course and you could have coaching videos and sessions, but a lot of people just they like to communicate. Right? They don't wanna sit down and and watch an hour long x, y, and z. They wanna wanna learn from someone else. Right?
They wanna go to those meetings or check-in meetings and get the inside scoop from whatever it is or however it works. Yeah. It's good. It's interesting Chaz would be the answer coming from a remote guy, but I think it's actually really great that the irony, there is an actual irony, and it's just recognition that you can do a lot of things remote, but the value of the other side doesn't go away. In fact, it actually heightens. That was 100% in rehab.
Also, too, probably for your students, as well as really just any entrepreneur who is working remote, the value of that The in person, is a super easy differentiator or a way to be able to make themselves stand out. Whether again, they're going to the meetings and other people aren't, or they're able to help in the meetings or lead the meetings or just add value or whatever that looks like in the in person because the in persons are so much more, you know, impactful in those scenarios.
Yeah. I would agree with The, and it's probably something to do with some other a science guy, but it definitely has a bigger impact and on your memory and just be able to retain that experience or knowledge when you do have those conversations versus in your in in the dark room. To note taking on on a day. Yeah. It's it's powerful. I got one last question here for you, Zach. As we wrap up, I wanna know. I this is interesting.
I know because you're a young guy, but if you could roll back the clock and talk to the younger Zach. Just tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear. What do you tell him? Not saying that that lifting weights in the gym and and working out isn't important, but I would have spent more time building my muscle in my mind. How would you have suggested that the youngers act do that? Putting myself in more uncomfortable situations. I definitely used to avoid them.
And if you're not prenewer right now or strive you to be in entrepreneur and you're not putting yourself in uncomfortable situation, do better get used to being uncomfortable? Yeah. It's a cliche, really. Like, you have to be comfortable with the uncomfortable change is the only thing that is constant. Like, these are the cliches. I had a guy. I've mentioned this so many times I had to get on the show probably a year ago, and he's like, man, I'm just trying to execute on the cliches.
I like that. You wanna talk about, okay, if it's cliche and it tickles your ear, just write it down and do it, man. Don't just hear it. Do it. And that's what I'm hearing you say, especially with the stuff from the morning that you're listening to on Spotify, the things that you're doing, even doing with your own clients. Like, I'm hearing you just do the things that that are valuable now, at least. Maybe the younger Zag didn't know. But that's how yeah. Absolutely.
I got the word XE written right on my laptop screen. I look at it every day because it doesn't matter about your ideas or what you you want it. You don't want ideas or dime a dozen. Yeah. Got to execute. Yeah. Time to go, baby. Zach, how can the listener find you? Number 1, if they themselves or they know somebody who needs a jobstack for a while. They need to understand what this is a little bit more. They're curious. They wanna find you, maybe even potentially work with you.
How can they find you? Or if they're an entrepreneur, just wanna pick your brain a little bit more on how you've become a little bit more of a a a strong minded entrepreneur. How can they find you? Yeah. They wanna get into job stacking. They can go to the website Suede Marketing.co. They can reach out to me directly. In terms of social media, we're really pushing on our social media. It's something that we've definitely, I think lacked. It's funny that we're an agency.
We lack our social media, but the focus has just been on acquisition and fulfillment that sometimes you leave out you leave out the social aspect of it, but social media channels are great. Quite to engage with not only myself, but also just our team, and we have a great internship program right now, and they love to communicate with. Everyone that's looking or interested in the movement. Yeah. I love it. I love that you call it a movement.
I feel similar with some of the work that we're doing, and it it's really purposeful when you can feel that way. Thanks for being here, man. I appreciate your insight. Your calm demeanor has brought some great answers and clarity, hopefully, to listeners here today. And appreciate you being here, ma'am. Talk soon. Absolutely. Appreciate you having me. Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings today.
I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple businesses and multiple different industries and now interviewing over 2 or 300 The very successful 7, 8, and 9 figure business owners is that It's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs. In fact, we are putting together 1000 kings, specifically who are grateful, but not done.
We're intentionally assembling Kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe Chaz in the suit of excellence in those areas Chaz it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy. So if that relates and and resonates with you and you know that you need people around you, sharp qualified other very successful business owners. I want you to go to The.
I want you to take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit to 1000 kings. Talk soon.