On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. Started young. Started at 22. And, you know, I'll just jump right in. I started with maybe $300 and bad credit. And, you know, ordered a Typical twenty two year old. Yeah. You know, but but I heard, and I learned that most people who become all time managers sit through real estate.
You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe, featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the reel of the reel. On what it takes to build a successful business today. We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along assess and how you too can get there.
Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody. Gathering the King's Nation Chaz Wolfe, gathering the King's podcast. Today, I've got Nathan Haley on the King stage. My dude. How we doing? Good. Good. How are y'all? You know, I think that's it's Monday here, as we're recording.
And so I hope that everybody listening, whether it's Monday for them Chaz they're listening right now, not that they're having an incredible week because you and I are fresh thing Monday morning here getting getting rolling. Tell us what kind of business that you have, Nathan? Well, I've been in real estate investing business for 15 years. Started young. Started at 22. And, you know, I'll just jump right in it. I started with maybe $300 and bad credit.
And, you know, ordered a typical twenty two year old? Yeah. You know, but but I heard and I learned that Most people who become all time managers, it's through real estate. And, you know, it had always kind of been in sales or demoing things since then. So Sure. Over this course, did a deal my 1st month and haven't stopped. So Wow. Wolfe. We were just talking off off air a little bit about creativity of real estate. You could say you're in real estate. I can say I'm in real estate.
We could be doing totally 2 different things. Inside of the space, what what is it that you like to focus on? Well, I like to I like to do flips because it's all over TV, and it's the cool popular thing. No. I'm just kidding. But it definitely brings in cash. Right? And I I have a, actually, a business partner, and I have employees and things, you know, and that cash flow needs to keep coming in. Yep. So I started with a guy named Tom Barry. He's like my second dad.
He's the most successful guy in life I know, not just business wise. Yeah. But he, you know, he always says, you know, the way to wealth is net worth, building your net worth. So he locked rentals. He love rentals and and all assets of of real estate from single family to commercial to to all of those things. So So I collect rentals also, but I started with wholesaling, you know, and I think it's a great way to start. There's a lot. There's not a lot of there's not a lot of your money in it.
You know, you might you just need some time to drive around and gas money and some little bit of marketing. Money, maybe. But that's a great way to know the players, learn repairs, how to figure your ARVs, how to run your your all your whole deal, I think it's a great way to start. Yeah. 100%. Okay. So tell me you're obviously where you are now because you've been successful over the course of 15 years. But why do you still push?
I mean, you could my guess is that you probably got enough where you could sail off and and be okay for a Wolfe, but you don't. You're still you're still at it. Why? Yeah. I mean, just be, you know, if I quit today, like, yeah, this is cool. You know, it but I have I have big goals. And and that's what's really driven me. My my second dad, my second dad, Tom Berry, created this 5 year plan that he taught started teaching 3rd 13, 12, 13 years ago. K. And it's just really impacted.
He's actually teaching it again here soon. We get the He doesn't just teach it. We have to, like, Tom, will you please come and teach us again and read it? So but it's really been my guide, my my structure in my life that I've written out and have a board on. And some of the, you know, some of these are big goals, you know, like, having a house on the water, you know, which is is one of them. Right? I've got. Yeah. Look at that. Another one is, you know, just Am I still there yet?
Another one is just pay my mom a year's salary for being my mom. You know? Another one is just helping others. Big bigger goals. Right? So so that's why I push. You know, that's why I push and and, you know, once you get to a certain point, financially and and got a system going. You have to push on other levels. Let's just say on other things in your lives. That's right. That's right. What do you where does that come from for you? Why why?
You know, like, I mean, it'd be so easy just to be like, I mean, I've had about some big things to sit sit on your nice little house by the water and just chill. But but you but there's obviously something inside of you that's creating these bigger things. Why? Yeah. You know, honestly, man, it comes from, comes from god, and it comes from inside. You know, it it might it might be some of my personality. But I I wanna help others.
You know, I wanna help others succeed and and and see their success. You know, some at some points, I've helped people and when they get there and when they achieve Chaz far as wholesaling and getting the biggest check they've ever seen in their life, flipping a house and seeing the biggest check they've ever seen, which I helped them with, you know, held their hand through before in the past, Yeah.
For me, sometimes that's more rewarding than me doing a flip, right, just doing a flip Chaz I I have or or or, you know, and it's some of these guys have impacted them, and this is all they do in their life now. Right? So so that that's that's that's big for me. I like helping others. I like seeing other success. I like to, you know, just have a big community that I've helped over the years. And, yeah, that that that's what impacts me. That's cool, man. Tell us back your 22.
You're you're getting started in real estate and not going to work corporate America. Like, why why entrepreneurship? Well, 1st of the first of all, I'm a bad employee. Chaz to figure it out No. You know, I mean, where I worked at stuff, I was always kinda the top guy, but I just, you know, it's and at some point, when I started wholesale, my 1st 2 years, I'd go back, like, maybe in between these wholesale deals. And and and I wasn't, you know, good with money at first, and I'd be like, $5.
I'm rich. Right? And and I'm like, when you come back to the job. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd be like, okay. Well, I need a little little job or whatever, and I'd be there. And I'd be like, Hand, how much do they pay me while I'm doing a wholesale deal over over here and that made my mind think, wait a minute.
Yeah. Well, I'm gonna if I go work for myself, like I do these guys, I'm gonna make way more money and kill it and have more freedom and more, you know, just assets and and things I can do to hit my goals and help others with. So Yeah. 100%. So that was the realization of if I do it for myself with the same fervancy, the same effort, the same top skills that you were bringing to somebody else. Yeah. It was worth it for you. That's great. I think that a lot of entrepreneurs can relate to that.
And so for you, I wanna kinda, like, go back in time to maybe your 1st year, maybe it was the 1st 5 years, you know, really before the 1st 1,000,000. And and I wanna know what was a good decision that you made along the way that helped you get to the 1st month? Sure. So I I, like I said, I was talking to my second dad, Tom, Barry. We we started in real estate together, and he helped guy, and he's about twenty years older than me.
At the time, though, you know, he was about to get I didn't know it, kicked out of his rental house, get his car repoed, Right? But he had a 5 year plan. His wife went to work at Crackerborough as a waitress. And within four and a half years, he was a multimillionaire. Yeah. And so that helped a lot. And he One of the things was he studied personalities, which at the end of the day is psychology. Right? Yep. And so I knew that I'm a social driver.
So I'm never gonna go try to be this technical guy that's gonna, you know, rule the the internet or, you know, a good employee. No. I'm I'm social. I'm good at building relationships. I'm a genuine person. That's what that's what I what I used to to get in there. Right? Yeah. And, And so just a great decision that I made was I met Tom Berry at the beginning, and honestly, it just came naturally after, like, he reached out to me. I reached out to him. We're like, oh, let's hang on.
We talked together almost every day for, like, 2 years straight helping each other. Right? And so that wasn't a great impactful situation that helped impact me. And like you were talking about earlier, you wish she had someone in your family that that that was successful in real estate or or, you know, she could could guide you or help you at first. Well, this was my my he is now, like, my second dad.
Yeah. I think I think the principle that I'm hearing you talk about is, first off, you you call him second dad, which is Grace, a little older, maybe You felt like you could glean wisdom, just life experience. You obviously had a family, but, really, you guys are running buddies. Yes. Yes. Right? Like, he's taking risks. You're taking risks. You're you're you're navigating through the risk together. You know, it's the it's the hype. It's the excitement of having a wingman. Yeah. We really were.
I remember one time, Tom was like, oh, no. I'm sorry. His wife Melissa was like, Tom, you know, Nathan's 22? Because we we would just talk. We were just friends really helping each other. It was like, no. It was like, you know, because we was pretty mature, I guess, for my age, you know, in certain ways, let's just say. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And not in others. But, anyway, You know, he just yeah. We were just friends. We're helping each other, and we were like running buddies. You know?
And so though he did have 20 years more experience in business than I did in another business that he had. Sure. Yeah. So so, you know, that definitely helped. Yeah. I yeah. I think that you're you're, you know, you got the experience piece there that you're you're given to him, which is great. You you you'd be able to glean on Chaz.
I I would venture to say that if we interviewed Tom, he would be as excited about those those moments as you are describing them because You probably spurred him along just as much as he spurred you along, and I think that that's that's the relationship piece. It's not it's not always just giving to others, right, it's it's a give and take. And whether you call it a mastermind group, whether you call it a a a close friendship like this, I have both.
Obviously, gathering the Kings is a mastermind group, but then I have I have close friends. We're on a weekly basis. I have scheduled time, and we go over family. We go over business. We go over just stuff because if you're running together, it's the excitement. It's the accountability. It's the I'm pressing forward.
I'm talking out loud to somebody that that is hearing me, picking me up, understanding what I'm saying because they're they're the same they're the same mind on the other end going through similar and or even different things to be able to give some different perspectives. So anything else you wanna add there? You know, it's just that I feel like and and and here I go into my psychological talk.
But I feel like life is is choices and decisions that we make, you know, and and in his 5 year plan he has is good news. You're not a victim of circumstance. You are where you are because of the decisions you have made. And the and and and and the choices that that you made in your life. You know? Yeah. 100%. And I I I Bully agree with that. It's a big reason why we go over good decision, bad decision here on the show. So let's turn the coin over. We talked about your good decision.
Give us the give us the not so pretty version of a bad decision. Sure. When I was young and I started and, you know, like I said, I'd if I ran and I would and I was, you know, single there for a little bit, and I would just be like, That's the thing. I'm social. I'm social, and probably a lot of successful people are I feel a little bit more extreme with some things. Sure. Why? Obsess. What's that? Obsessive. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yep. Another way to put it in.
So, you know, I had to learn to, let's just say, not party as much, you know, and keep it at a certain pace, you know, at certain level, because I just really enjoyed on lots of people were having a great time around me, and I was having a great time. You know? And I think there's a lot of people out there that do that, but Let's just say sometimes I'll take it to another level. Like, mark the whole bar a shot or whatever. You know? Right. Right.
You know, there's always things you have to grow from. You know, sir. Yeah. Yeah. And so the lesson there, obviously, there are maybe not obviously, but then I'm hearing you say is that you weren't a good steward with the money simply because in those moments, you were maybe a little too caught up in in either whether it's the party scene or pleasing your friends or just having a time, not really thinking ahead monetarily.
And so learning from those moments now has probably allowed you to do more deals, put more money forward, You know, we call it the king's role in the mastermind group. It's like, you gotta take money from this deal. You don't take it and then go buy shots for everybody. You take it and you put it in the next deal. You know? Right.
You roll it forward into your future, into the future version of who you wanna be, whether that's self improvement, another deal, another investment of some type, you know, whatever. And at the end of the day, that that's how you help more people. Right? It's you you know, yeah, you're having a good time, but they're they're not helping them by buying them shots. You could help them by growing more, growing more, and then, you know, having more events and having more ways to help them. Right?
So to follow along on what you've actually been able to do. I wanna talk about obsession here for a second. We don't I don't always turn this corner here, but since you brought it up Yeah. There's obviously an obsessive or or, like you said, an extreme tendency that a lot of entrepreneurs have. And whether that's with work or whether that's with a substance or whether that's with whatever. Right?
I want you to talk on that for a little bit because you've kinda you've you've transitioned through life in with having Chaz. You still have it today, but it's obviously just on different things. I wanna hear your thoughts on on obsession. Sure. So like we were talking about earlier, we we are a part of a a lot of successful investors are part of a a group that meet up, you know, and we help each other. And I've been part of 1. We call ourselves top gun, and then they're, like, 5 years.
We used to meet once a week. Like, an hour 30 minute drive at first. Anyway, but it was so worth it. So worth it. Best ex some of the best experiences in business and in life really. And so so when I learned, I was like, okay. I know I'm different. But when I was with these guys, they were like a lot of them were like me and the part of being extreme, you know, at least for a period of time. Yeah. You you know, let's just let's just go with extreme in business, right, extreme in business.
And, again, my second dad said, you can go that's why his 5 year plan is there. You can go extreme for a short period of time, but but his his thing is if you do it right and work in real estate investing for 5 years, you don't ever have to work again if you don't want to. Right? That's his that's his point in that. And so I noticed these other guys are dream. So it helped to be like, okay. So how did how are these guys using that for good, not bad?
How are these guys, you know, helping themselves to develop as as great people. Right? So that was another thing I learned from that group. Yep. You know, the biggest thing I learned, oh, it's like, okay. There's other people out there like me. Right. That's right. Just a little bit Chaz, a little bit obsessed.
I I had this conversation with a guy inside of Gavin the King's mastermind, and it was a it it was around similar thing, like, before I used to be obsessed with a substance, and and then it was business. And eventually, I had to like, it's almost like his his the coaching that he received or the advice that he received was to not be obsessed. Right, that that those things were crushing his life because he was obsessed with the wrong things. Right?
Yeah. And and so the conversation that we had really was a freedom around, hey, bro. You're designed to be like this. In fact, it's god given. Like, literally, it's a talent that you would be able to hone in on something. So aggressively and so obsessively for any given period of time, short, long meet, whatever. And so as long as, like you said earlier, a few minutes, if you can focus that on on good things.
And, I mentioned that he had been obsessed with business, and really what I meant was, you know, his idea of success, money and what money can bring. Yes. Okay. That's part of it. But when when your perspective changes to legacy or helping others or building a community or your family, you know, and building a family. And what that what that looks like for future generations, then it then it it's the same obsession. It's the same the feeling that you had in the in the club. You know?
Yes. But now it's just being used to to perpetuate wealth and also other resources for future generations, you and future generations. 1000% 1000% agree with that. I asked my second dad. Tom Barry. I was calling by his name.
Chaz, and and he because, you know, I mean, Let's just say he has the most network of any guy I know, right, along with, you know, other things, but but his he does it now for for legacy, you know, and he he'll say, like, you you can shake the the buried tree and no money will be dropping out of it. Right? Now he has changed that whole tree of his name. Right. Right? And and and he takes his kids out. He pays for everything.
There's don't know how many now 20 something with the kids, you know, with the babies and that's the, you know, husbands and the wives. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. It's a year and he pays for everything, and he's just you know, he enjoys that and just connecting. You know, he he is a similar personality at the bottom of social driver. He's a driver of social So he's a we're we're we're pretty similar. Hey, Charles Wolf here.
As many of you know, I have been on an absolute mission to help entrepreneurs from all across the country in many different industries, level up their game and grow their business, and intentionally connect with other entrepreneurs. We do Chaz, obviously, through the podcast, but We also have a peer to peer mastermind group specifically for 7 to 9 figure business owners.
We are bringing some of the best and most successful entrepreneurs and minds together in a regular and a super intentional way to not only grow our network, but to be able to leverage And at a certain point in business, success becomes about leverage, leveraging time, leveraging resources, leveraging key relationships, This is exactly what we're doing inside of the peer to peer mastermind group called Gathering the Kings, specifically for 7
to 9 figure business owners, So if that's you, if you're ready to level up your 7 to 9 figure business, even to the next level and get around other big hitters just like you, I want you to go to gathering the kings dot com, fill out a short application, and, it'll come to an application, call with me and I wanna chat with you to see if it might be a good fit. Talk soon. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Okay. So we've talked about good and bad decisions.
We you've even mentioned earlier that you believe that you know, a lot of life is based, you know, where we are today is based on the decisions that we've made. How how do you now go about making decisions at the current state? Sure. Well, I think it's how you start your day. So I start my day every morning. I'm at work here that I showed y'all, and I have my burrito, I have my coffee, I have my water, and I have my bible.
And I read a little bit of my bible, and then I say what I appreciate out loud. I don't care if anybody's around. I just say what I appreciate out loud. Right? And that can change your perspective on the day. Right? So then when I get in my truck, I have my audio books that I'm listening to Chaz I'm driving, I'm not listening to music and all that. Right? That's rare for me. And maybe on the weekends, I'll listen. But, you know, some audio books, I'm connecting with good people that are growing.
And, you know, and then we'll kinda go into would like to kinda get more personal, but, you know, what we talked about before. But, basically, about three and a half years ago, I have something happened very personal to me and threw me off. And and I I was teaching a lot before then. Well, Long story short, about 4 months ago, almost died. Knock on wood. They got him here. They got him part of you guys. Right? And so Then what happened, I I'll just I'll just condense it.
But, basically, it fell and hit my head. It was the shrug fell and hit my head. I had, you know, within Chaz time frame, you know, my my cousin who's super popular has a kid, has a girlfriend. He's he lives in the valley. I'm in Texas over here. And, he fell and needed his head and died. Oh, wow. So I say, wait a minute. God's trying to tell me something. Yeah. I said, see, trying to tell me.
So I said, well, he wants me to get closer to god and talk about him more public and to get back to teaching like I was. Yeah. Definitely changes your perspective on life, what's important, what's not important, what people think, who cares, right, just be genuine, be easy to help people if you're a good person. Right? So that got me back on the journey. So now I'm teaching again a lot.
And like I said, I'm an extreme with things and Basically, a lot of these guys who met me or my best friend James, he's known me for a while. He's seen me teach before, but he hasn't a lot of these people haven't seen me teach like I did before. Well, I've been on, like, 6 different teaching events in the last month and a half. Right? I've got one coming up that I set up. I got sixty two people coming to. I got a 100. I'm teaching that next week.
I had I've already taught on a lot of different places. So like I said, I'm extreme with things. So I but but I'm using it for the good to help people. Right? Focus on the goodness, you know, with with it. So yeah. Dude, I I appreciate you sharing, you know, the moment there, obviously, an emotional time for you to be able to have Most precious thing, obviously, life itself, not just time, but but literal life be be potentially taken.
And then the realization that the same activity took someone else's life. It puts things in perspective, like you said. You know, and it's unique. I I had this conversation with my wife the other day. Perspective, you can't have perspective if you don't know what it's like to be without.
And so, in this case, the perspective now on life is because you had this feeling of, oh my goodness, what it would have been to to have no life, you know, and to and to even think about the people that would Wolfe have been around you still without you now and to think about that impact.
But the same thing, like, that probably you and I experienced growing up, not having a whole lot, because I didn't have a whole lot, I now think of things a certain way because I I I I see I can have the perspective of what it was without and what it was with. And so it makes me grateful. And so that was probably the biggest thing that I heard you say, even though the emotional connection was around, obviously, what the lord is doing in you, but it's this perspective.
If you know If you know what it feels like to be without or even the glimpse of it, then it makes you grateful for the things that you that you currently do have. Even though they may not be the end, Right? Because, again, we go back to entrepreneurs. We had these big goals, these big visions. I'm not done. I'm I'm after it. But you still have to find this place of rest in the moment now of gratefulness because you understand the difference of where you've been versus where you are now.
Amen, a 100%. And I just wanna I want I wanna go into that a little bit more or add add to that if I can. I feel like You know? And I I talked to my best. She's like, man, because we talked psychology. He'll call me, hey, listen. You know, we just start talking psychology in the morning. And he's like, man, that might sometimes he's like, that's too deep. People aren't gonna get her. Right? But whatever again.
Yeah. So I'm gonna go with that and say that my Tom Barry He he had a different perspective on life because he almost was bankrupt before. Alright. Oh, I'm sorry. He did declare bankruptcy before. And he wanted to never be there again. And honestly, I thought that was one of his strongest suits that he had. Right? Because he knew where really bad was. You know, himself. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, thank god. I've always had a place to live. I've always busted my butt.
Though a perspective is reality. Chaz be reality. Right? And so so you know, just if you can learn from other people, you know, if you learn from yourself, you're better than most people. You can learn from other people. You're in the top. Less 5%, I would say. And and and grow from there where they've been and what they've been. Right? Yeah. It seems so easy. Such an easy concept or even principle, but it's the application of such where you you hear the story today.
So this is I'm talking to the listener. You're hearing the story today, right, of obsession and changing the obsession to good things. You're we're talking about making good decisions. We're talking about taking a chance to invest. Whether that's in real estate or in a business or you as an individual, investing is the same principle across, but you're hearing Nathan talk about all these things. And the time frame from when you hear it today so then when you take action is the differentiator.
That's it. Yes. Yes. There's so much information out there. You can you can look up all this stuff on YouTube. You can look at it all on the internet. You know, at the end of the day, that's 20% of it. You know, minimum. Right? The rest of it is going to take an action, right, and doing the things that you've learned and connecting with the people that you need to connect with and growing as a person. You know? 100%.
K. I'm gonna come at you at a little different angle here with speed round questions. I want you to break your real estate business down into one trackable metric. If you can only pick 1, what would you be tracking forever and ever? My net worth Love it. Yeah. Why? Because when you add to your net worth, Even if it's only a 100 that's a lot of them. $100,000, let's just say. Right? Wolfe, that rose exponentially every day. Every day.
When the renters pay in your mortgage down, when appreciation is increasing, right, on the houses, let's throw in inflation. That's gonna increase the prices. Right? Like, you know, it's it's also a I feel a a saving from yourself that you can't access very easily, right, unless you're in the top, you know, I I don't know what it is. It's it's a small percentage that are really good at saving in America. Right? Right. So so growing your net worth can never be a bad thing ever.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, of course, you gotta have cash too. So you gotta balance. Right? Yeah. But, you know, I I feel in my eyes, at least, net worth is more important. Yep. Love it. What book would you recommend? Nathan, for a 6 figure business owner to read. We've got a few of them, but, of course, think and grow rich is a great one. It's another one. What's your what's your takeaway from that? I mean, that's that's the only book I read every single year.
What's your what's your one what's your one takeaway? You know, he has so many good things. But just learning from other people. You know, learning from his his poor dad is rich dad. The different mindsets of perspectives is is is a big one. I feel. You know? And and and that's what puts him in the top percentage because he learned from others mistakes, and he'd have to create it himself. You know? You probably have listed a lot more than I have.
You listen to it every year, but I I I try to change up the books. You know, once I read that one, I read another Wolfe, I read another one. Honestly, man, I've been focused on relationships lately. So I have let me see. I have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, six books in my in my about relationships. Right? So but, you know, the 5 AM club, Think and Grow Ridge, hyper high performance habits, are all good ones. You know?
So and just surrounding yourself again, around good people Chaz, that have achieved and seeing their perspective on it also. Not just books, but other people. Yeah. That I would actually say you're spot on with Chaz, and and I would take it to another level. My first ability to get around people was through books.
Now that seems odd that I would get around people through books, but I was getting to know successful people and successful principals based on their stories through books first, before I ever had the, you know, the the gumption or the balls to to invest in a in a mastermind group or in a coaching or whatever was a, you know, a $10 book, a $20 book, and and that's how I got around people. Or I got to know mentors, but obviously Chaz it's gotta it's gotta go beyond that, but but you're right.
It's a 100%. You gotta be able to get get that perspective. Alright. I got I got One question for you, around kind of what we're just talking about getting around other people. The question normally is, do you intentionally network or mastermind with other entrepreneurs? Obviously, we already know that you do But I wanna just give you another opportunity here to talk about the value here or or maybe maybe spin it like this.
If you had the person listening right now, who's never gotten around a rich dad or never been a part of a mastermind group or never hired a business coach or whatever the tactic is. It doesn't really matter. What would you say to that person who's never done it before? K. Chaz wants to be in that group. Correct?
Yeah. Or or they're just thinking, I I wanna get to the next level, but they've never even thought of or heard of this idea of investing in myself in this way or in these ways because there are obviously lots of different choices. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. So where you wanna be and where you wanna go in life, You have to ask yourself, who do I have to become? What do I have to do to attract that into my life? Never Chaz attracted. Right? And so who do I have to develop into?
What books do I need to read? What do I need to be doing on a daily basis? To be in every asset of life, whether it's it's it's, you know, spirit, business, mental, health, you know, physical, What what do you need to do? Who do you need to become in order to attract that into your life? That's what I'd be asking. And then trying to come up with those those answers, and then doing those answers. Yeah. So good. So simple. I tried it. Hey. That's that's what I learned that from a second highlight.
I keep things simple. Like, I just uh-uh. Life is complicated enough, but it can be very simple. Not easy. Simple. That's right. Not easy, but simple. Alright, Nathan. Last question for you. If you lost it all, what would you do? Honestly? I don't know. I have I have a positive. I have I'm really positive in from my side, but I kinda be excited about it because I know I'd be like, man, man, I gotta get back in there and start over. Like, it's not always where you end up. It's the journey.
That's exciting. Right, helping all the people and and doing the deals. And and, yeah, when you're back against the wall, guess what? You're you're an If you're a successful guy, you're at it. You're gonna get it done. You know, you're gonna figure it out. You're gonna do whatever you gotta do every day, at least in my mind. I'm going to. Right? No. It's funny. I've had I've had a lot of more than you can think of, you know, out of a 150 ish shows now. We've had I don't know.
Quite a few people be like, you know what? Kind of in a weird way, and it'd be it'd be freeing. You know? Yeah. You know, the let go let go of all the things that you're built, but we all know Chaz we just do it again. Yes. Yes. But but the the free almost like we can go back to the younger version of ourself. Know, they kinda just get after it again. You know?
Yeah. I think that that's that's a a definitely a unique perspective for sure, but but one that a lot of successful people, I think have. I've I've heard it right here on the show many times. Nathan, how can how can a listener connect with you? They've enjoyed you here today. They wanna maybe come to one of your classes. They wanna know real estate. They just wanna get to know you better. How can they find you? Yeah. Well, my classes are in person.
I'm in the Houston area, you know, Galveston area, but I I would actually just started building up my my Instagram, and it's Nathan O So it's nathan0277. I would say follow me on Facebook, but I'm back, but I think I just got the follow button. If you wanna follow, just look me up. Nathan Haley. I do a lot of Facebook lives there at my projects and things. And we did have a website crash, so we're we're getting another one up.
So we'll be getting that in, but In the meantime, you could connect with me there, and I'll keep y'all posted. So, yeah, I can help that way. And if I can help you out in any way, feel free to reach out, and I love helping people. Yeah. Nathan, I just so appreciate your just your vulnerability, Sharon, your story, as well as just the advice, and we wish you nothing but success. And, of course, a blessing to you and and all the things you have your hands to. Thanks for being here.
Appreciate it, Chaz. Bye bye. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today. Hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
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