On today's episode of gathering the Kings. You gotta have something that's greater than yourself to get you through the mud. That resilience is a gift. You know? Yeah. It's not something we can conjure up on our own. You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be.
We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the reel of the reel. On what it takes to build a successful business today. Success and how you too can get there. Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe, gathering the Kings podcast.
Today, I've got Jared her on the King stage, my man. How you doing? Hello. Hey. Glad to be here. I appreciate you being here. Happy Thursday. Right? Say that every single day, it's like, boom. We're ready to freaking roll today. Yeah. Happy whatever, Davis. Exactly. Exactly. Why why not, though? Why not have that perspective? I mean, what what would be the alternative to be to be upset about it? Chaz is Thursday. I don't know. I I maybe I wouldn't agree with that.
Jared, my man, what kind of business do you have, brother? We design and build homes, residential homes. Love it. Where are you located? We're located in Denver, Colorado. Denver. You know, I knew that, obviously, but I wanted you to say it because I love Denver. I love Colorado, really. Got some clients out there. I I think one day, yeah, I want some property in Colorado. You know? I've hunted Colorado a couple times. Nice. Colorado. Yeah. For the summertime.
Like, here in Kansas City, it gets hot, man. Yeah. I need to be where you are in the summertime. But then, like, already, it's already in November. I'm not interested. You know, really? No. The ski snowboard. Yeah. I see. Couple days at a time, but then, like, I need to be back in, like, South Florida. We gotcha. Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm that guy. I apologize in advance. I can't I can't hang with the cold, but, Jared, we're not here to talk about my weather preferences.
I wanna know at this level of the game, you're you're building homes, you're creating dreams for people. Like, what a cool opportunity that you really use built for yourself? And your team, but but I wanna know. My first question is always the same. Why? What are you after? What's the bigger picture? You've already accomplished so much. What's left? What do you gotta go get? What are you doing it for? It's it's just the challenge. I think is my why. I like the if someone's like, hey.
This is this might be impossible. I'm like, go on. But I I'd really enjoy building. I enjoy being a part of something that didn't exist and now exists because of something our team did. You know? That's just it's special, and that's what kinda keeps keeps us going. You know, I've had that feeling we built a house here in 2021 moved in earlier this year, and I used to think, like, I do still sometimes. I think, man, this is you should not be here. I used to just look at this land.
Just sitting here and do it, you know, but but now this structure is here. What what do you think or what has happened along your journey that's given you that perspective of the challenge, the bill, the creating something out of nothing, or were you always like that? I think I was always like that even with Legos Chaz a kid. Yeah. That's kinda what I fell in love with building. It's Legos. But, yeah, I like I like I like people. I like being around people.
So when I set off to do my own thing, I knew was gonna be with a team. It wasn't just gonna be me doing my own thing. I just love people. So I love working for people, working with people, I like people. I like people. You're a people of people. Yeah. Okay. So You have this this challenge piece. What what during the days where it really is challenging? Right? Like, maybe not necessarily the days where you're building, you're building, but it's just one of those days, man. Oh, yeah.
What are you thinking press through the challenge because I, like, go on, like, this can't be done. Is that what you're thinking in those days, or is it even something else? That's inside of you that that you're pressing into. When it's really, really difficult, I I just hear this This shall pass. That that that gives me hope that, hey. It's not gonna always be that's bad. That's right. Tomorrow's another day. You know, that's kinda where my focus goes immediately is.
You know, some days you lose something. You know? That's it. Another day another day? We get another shot tomorrow. That's right. That's a healthy perspective. You know, there's poise Really, that's the word that comes to my mind. When you say that, it's like there there's this poise about, like, understanding where I'm at and going, okay. It's difficult right now. I'm in a season. I'm in a week. Mean, a certain project, whatever it is, it's just like, oh.
But this too shall pass, or as David Goggins says, you're not gonna die, bro. It's not gonna kill you. So just finish. Stay hard. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I I would also say, like, the team around me. You know, I got some really dedicated people. My brother works on the team. My wife works on the team. So there's, like, a family aspect as well, but Yeah. You know, some of the employees have been with me over a decade.
And Wow. So that also comes to mind, you know, when they say tough, it's like, hey. This is, you know, this is why I do this too. It's like, I enjoy working with these people. You know? And that Chaz that's what keeps me going too. It's it's like a family. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I had a conversation, yesterday or the day before with a guy. When he was talking about, he was thankful that he had a cofounder because, you know, moments where it was difficult for him, his cofounder was like, bro.
Get up. Let's go. And then, you know, obviously vice versa. And so Chaz that been the case with, you know, working with your wife inside the business, with your brother inside the business? Just this family dynamic of pulling each other at the right minutes, or is it also been a tension point, a struggle? Like, what's been that dynamic? Yeah. No. 100%. It's it's, yeah, you know, the other person's there to pick each other up, you know, when you're having a bad day.
So Yeah. We feed off each other all the time. I Chaz think of maybe one site over the last 13 years with my brother. So, you know, we get along. We We've built Legos together. You know? And so here we are building all this together. And then, yeah, my wife is on the design side. So, you know, we're kind of in different Wolfe. So that's that's just been a lot of fun. And we've also been filming on a TV show, and that's been a whole another just, like, aspect to everything.
It's just like, Oh, cool. Can can you say what show? Are you able to say what show? I think so. I If not, we'll we'll bleep it out in state. It's, like, it's idea house, Mountain Water, Stream 3 on Roku. Oh, wow. You you'd gave the full promotion there. I love it. Wolfe, yeah. No. I I think that there's lots of people that would wanna check that out, obviously, because it's a show. But how did that come together? Like, did they approach you? Did you guys reach out?
Like, how did that come together? Yeah. They approached us. I believe they found us on Instagram just kinda following us for for a while, and they were looking at doing a it's basically the the producers of this old house. And so they were looking at doing any show and thought, hey. I wonder what people are doing in Colorado and what it's like to build up the rockies. Yeah. And doing, you know, doing mountain builds. So That's cool. Yeah. It's we started that about a year ago.
That's awesome. Well, I think Chaz, we've already, you know, had this very in-depth. Are we we went deep fast about, you know, what you guys are doing and family, all that kind of fun stuff. I wanna I wanna go into your your history a little bit. Sure. I want you to tell me you said Legos is kinda how it started, but was there a business before this business? Was being an entrepreneur always in the car you kinda tell me that beginning and then the beginning of this business.
I was actually at home school all the way up to high school. So okay. You know, there's a lot of you kinda teach yourself and when you're homeschooled, you know, and so acquiring knowledge is just something that you learn as a homeschooler. It's just like, hey. If I wanna know something, I can find it. Do yes. Everything on my part too. Have you tried to duplicate that in your children? What's that? Have you tried to to replicate or duplicate that?
That, like, I'm not as good as my parents, but, you know, I didn't I'm trying. Yep. They actually go to, class school school here, and we'd love. So, you know, running a business and and homeschooling them together would be impossible. Did. So maybe I should try it now. Yeah. Right? Didn't you just say, yeah. I know. I I said that. Might as well try it. I love it.
So, anyway, that that's giving me that comfort I would say is from my parents of just, like, if you can do anything you set your mind to. You know? Was kind of one of those principles that I've learned. So did you think that you'd always be a business owner because of that, or did that that formulate at some point? No. I thought it was gonna be in a rock band. We don't have a flag on the globe. That's different. I joined rock bands on us 15 in California that I was an army brat.
We moved every 2 years and got to see a lot of the world. Yeah. That's where the homeschooling came in handy, of course. Yeah. Getting to see the world Chaz was awesome. And, yeah, I thought it was gonna be a rock star one day. Well, you you are. Just maybe not in the music industry. Right? Oh, man. So, yeah, it's it's been Chaz, you know, one of the first jobs I got was actually I was fifteen. I was bagging groceries. And it was just tips only. So Oh. I knew hustle.
Yeah. As hard as I could work is, you know, My goal is just like, alright. I'm gonna be the one that makes the most money today. You know? It's just that challenge of, like, you only have you, you know, in front of what you want. So I think that was honestly the probably the initial spark of just like, cool. I can go as hard as I want to go with bagging groceries. I I I mean, as as silly as this sounds, when you said that, I literally went to my mind of like, okay.
I went to a grocery store, Chaz was in my hometown. Yeah. And I was like, man, if I had had the opportunity at, you know, young age like that to freaking Okay. I offer gum to them. I carry their stuff. I you know, like, whatever whatever. Bring a water bottle. You know, like, I'm just trying to be concierge total. All the way in at freaking 14 and hustle these tips. I literally went there for that 30 seconds when you were saying that. I I was there. I'm I'm pumped up. I'm excited. That's cool.
And then, yeah, and then I went from there to washing windows for a guy, you know, it's commission based. So once again, hard as I wanted to work, you know, I could I could make what I wanted to make. So, yeah, I was always calling him saying, hey. I'm gonna be wrapping up early. Got another job for me. And so, yeah, I I did that for 5 years, and then started work working for revolves design bill. At the time, it was just called revolve.
And it was 2 business partners that owned it and I just wanted to get to the construction world. I oh, I missed one thing. In between washing windows and construction, I I did computer consulting for a company and built computers. And I was setting this all day, and it was my own thing. It was my own company I started. I was making actually pretty good money, but I really didn't like working by myself, and I didn't really like sitting at a desk. I like the beach.
I like every day to be different. So Spoke it like a real entrepreneur. Yeah. And that's when I started looking for something new. And then fell in love with the guys I was working with. So they Yeah. They taught me a lot. I Chaz, you know, a mentor He taught me all the trade work, and I fell in love with the work. The details, the tile, the flooring, carpentry, cabinets. You know, you name it. We did it all. So a couple of years after working for them, they decided to sell the business.
And I said, sure. I'm you know, I've never run a business. Got a business loan out, but I'll figure it out. How hard could it be? It's just like Legos. Yeah. Yes. Answered. No. But yes. Yeah. And then, yeah, later, you went and got an SBA loan. You went and got some debt. You bought these guys out and said, who, Rah, here we go. That's right. Mhmm. K. Wow. Did you know in that moment? What it would be today, or was it more of a just like, wow. This just kinda just came to me.
I'm gonna I'm gonna just run with it, see what happens. I did have some dreams for it initially. I don't know if I would could have articulated at the time. Exactly. It could be on TV. Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't that wasn't a thought. I just wanted to do I wanted to provide something that was you know, Chaz I put everything into it, and it was the best it could be and give up to someone who appreciates it.
Yeah. And so no matter that being on a small scale, just a bathroom remodel, or if that's someone's luxury custom home, It it's the same thing. You know? It's just doing the best you can for somebody and someone appreciating that. You know, is what gets what gets me up at the morning. Yeah. Your the the appreciation word that you said there, I think that we all have that to a degree. It's sometimes tough to see that because of all the just the, you know, mud that we walk through. You know?
Yeah. There's a lot of mud the last 2 years. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, especially in the construction Wolfe. I mean, a lot of good mud, a lot of lot of not so good mud, you know, Need a little clay in the dirt, but too much is not good. You know? So okay. I wanna know, you know, practically speaking, you take over a business And so so you didn't start it from scratch. I've taken over businesses that I've purchased. I've also started from scratch, and and they're totally 2 different struggles.
The the reality, though, is that you had to make good decisions. Right? And so that's what we talked about here on the show, good and bad decisions. I wanna know in that 1st year, maybe 1st 2, 3 years, Mhmm. What was the decision that you made that was clear as day? You can look back and go, this was so impactful, and I'd do it again and again. We can learn from it. Please share it with us.
Yeah. After the 1st year, I actually the guy I worked with who was my mentor prior to buying the company, I asked if he would want to be my partner. And so I would say that was a really good decision. Hard him as a, you know, partner 5050. And, you know, we said, let's do this thing. And so I learned so much from him, you know, as far as the crash goes. Yeah. And then having his help allowed me to learn a lot about the business.
You know, how to estimate, how to do sales, how to, you know, all the things that I hadn't I hadn't had to deal. Yeah. So, you know, that was a really good decision. K. And so inside of that decision, it was basically you buying expertise, mentorship, maybe some some history or experience that just allows you to maybe fast track a little bit. Mhmm. In my in my picking up what you're laying down? Yep. That's that's exactly right. And there was some consequences too.
You know, we were learning how to bid. We were underbidding you know, we would underbid our time. You know, there's a lot of decisions we would make that would affect the bottom line, lose money on a project here or there. Yeah. But I still see that as a good decision because it's like, that was that was my education too. So yeah. Yeah. We Chaz, as entrepreneurs, we pay for our education, differently than just very different ways to wish him. Yeah. I feel you on Chaz.
And I think everyone listening can can feel you on that. The good decision, though, for you, actually, it was several, but wrapped up into one relationship, really, is what it was. Yeah. Why why do you think in that moment, you were, maybe, humble enough or open minded enough, get away half of your company, to be able to gain those experiences, knowledge, mentorship, all those things. I mean, Chaz partially, it's just nothing nothing to lose, really. It's, you know, hey.
I'm I'm figuring this out. You know, I'm not I'm not a seasoned business owner. I didn't go to school for business and, you know, I'm I'm learning on the fly here and just to have someone partnering, say, I'm I'm willing to give that a shot with you. Yeah. Just that confidence, you know, to to go out of together was was huge. So I just looked at it, like, like, yeah. I don't know I don't know if I'd wanna do it alone, you know, is how Yeah. Hey, Kings and Queens. Jazz Wolf.
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Let's help each other. Let's hope each other grow. Wolfe, it's like 2 or 3, maybe even four times now. You've mentioned this this love being around people. You quit the one business because you were by yourself. Like, You're people people. And so I think that, you know, not only have you displayed that you can work with your family, but now you've talked about having a partner, What would you say to the guy who's listening? Who's like, oh, I could never. I could never have a partner.
I could never work with my brother. I could you know what I mean? Like, all the things that you've been able to do Is that something that they should consider? Is there something wrong with them? You know, like, what would you say to that guy? Well, man. That's a good question, man. It's not for everybody. You know? I think entrepreneurs need to see outside themselves and their limitations. You know? Yeah. That's good.
And and you got that through family partnership you can get that through a coach. You can get that through, you know, someone that you have lunch with on a weekly basis. You know, what are I mean, there's lots of different ways you could do that. Mhmm. But that principle remains the same. That's right. I guess my my underlying question to those questions was how did you know that? How did you know that you needed to see outside of yourself?
Chaz would go that would probably go to my faith in in Jesus, you know, just knowing I can't do anything without him. So Yeah. It it gets real personal real deep real quick. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because you have this perspective of, well, my parents said I can put my mind to it, and I can do anything. Then you have this, like, flip of the script where it's like, well, I can't do anything without him. And so it's like, yeah. How do you piece those together?
In essence, they're complete opposites, but not really. How did they go together for you? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the journey right there. That is that is the best workaround answer I've heard. Yes. It is. I know. I know. It's a good answer, though. It really is. Rewind it. No. No. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good to hear. All seriousness because it is the churn. That's the real that's the real answer.
We gotta work it out. That's exactly right. I was gonna say it. What it really is is it's like it's doing the work. Like, Yeah. Do you just go to church? And you're like, cool. That's that's it. Or do you actually talk to your Lord and savior every day? And do you like spend time and do that work and actually care about what he says. Yeah. You know? And Are are you waiting for the for the answer? The the response? Because there's been seasons where I didn't was.
And I did my own thing, and I was like, oh, I'm trying to do this all out of my own strength then it's not working out because I'm limited. You know, there's only so much a human can do. Alright. So I'm gonna try to, bring a summary here for just real quick here for the Whether it's partnership, whether it's family, whether they're it's someone else in your life, you need someone to give you a perspective differently than what you have.
And the reason why you need that is because you're a limited person. You're a person, which means you're limited. You're limited in your action. You're limited in your thoughts. You're limited in your your current beliefs of what you think about yourself, your business, whatever, it won't change unless provoked. By another person, or in this case, for you and I, by our faith, and maybe that small whisper that we get of, what about this, or what about that?
And and, obviously, like I said, that that third point maybe for you is, like, yes. I know I'm limited. I know I need people, but I also know that I need a a greater source you know, a an inspiration, a whisper that that gives you some direction Chaz maybe is there, in certain seasons or not, whether we want it to or not, whether we press into it or not. And so did I miss anything? You wanna you wanna did I did I forget anything from those map for that point for listener?
No. I would say that that stays the same for, you know, the last 2 years, like, the mud we're talking about. You know, that's that's real. Like, you know, Chaz you get you gotta have something that's greater than yourself to get you through the mud. That resilience is a gift. You know? Yeah. It's not something we can Contra up on our own. That's right. Yeah. That's right. So good. Alright. Let's flip the script here.
I wanna know of a bad decision, something that you made, Jared, that just did not turn out so good. My first new build, I didn't sign a contract. Hurry up. Twist twist the knife on me. You already stuck it in me. Twist it now. What's the rest of the store? Yeah. That, you know, it was just man, I learned a lot on that job, but it did end up in a in a lawsuit. At the end client. I've been happy, and I I didn't have a leg to stand on because I didn't cross t's dot the i's.
I was so focused on Yeah. This is like the dream. Right? Whether it's I Chaz been doing additions. I Chaz been doing renovations. I eventually wanted to get into a new bill, you know, new construction. And I was like, this is the dream. I'll I'll do anything for it. Yeah. And so I just took the job and I let, you know, I let the client lead that discussion at beginning and and perform it the way he wanted it to be performed. So super bad decision.
Never do anything without a contract, even if it's with your buddies. It's what I learned. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I was just having this conversation 2 days ago with one of my real estate partners. And we were talking about this very same thing, this contract topic, and how you wanna believe people Yeah. You do. Yeah. You know? Doesn't mean that you shouldn't. Right? It just means, though, that if we can agree here and put it in writing, then I then outside of that, I can.
We can be people. We can I can yeah? Let's put it in writing, though. So that way, neither one of us have to actually push on each other or pressurize each other in that way. We just it's just written. It's an agreement. It's obvious. It just removes all the pressure of I actually trust this person? Because you wanna trust him. You want to. Yeah. You do. Yeah. That's That's kind of, you know, the principles I grew up. It's just like, hey. You look you look at each other in the eye.
You're, you know, you have integrity. You do what you say you're gonna do. And so you expect that from others too. And that's not always the case? Yeah. Yeah. The contract hold that in place It's even funny too since we since we're, you know, having this conversation kind of through the filter of faith even, you know, I have found personally in my history that oftentimes it's the buddy or, in this case, someone in the church.
Yep. Where because there's that additional connection family or because we go to the same church or whatever, then now it gets labeled as legalism, or needing grace or however they wanna phrase it, and it's like, no. No. No. We have an agreement. Yeah. And that this is exactly why I did the agreement because I know people like you that like to change things up and then use some flowery faith language, you know, to get it to change, which is which is sad, man.
It's sad that that happens that I even have to prepare like that. Because just like you, where I'm like, look. Like, not only my word, like, I was taught that for my family, but then from a faith perspective, like, right, excellence, is a representation of Jesus. Like, why am I changing on my word? Right. But, like you said, It's not hired by things. So the lesson here is put it in the contracts. Doesn't matter how good of a friend, whether they love Jesus or not. It doesn't matter.
If if even if even more so, if they're a friend, then they should realize It is that much more important for your relationship to freaking write it down, make it obvious, agree to it, and then stick to it. Yeah. And and also, you know, hiring a lawyer sounds really expensive, you know, Chaz to write up your contract or look over a contract, maybe you already have But if if it saves you that one lawsuit over your whole business, like, it pays for itself for 20 years. So just yeah.
You know, it's just it's not a worries. Where it's trying to save the money of a lawyer costs. Yeah. Well, I've spoken from a guy who's gone through the lawsuit process. If you're listening here today and you haven't gone through that, take his word. Take his word and say, hey. Look. Go put some dot some t's dot and cross some i's. There you go. No. Like, in all seriousness, get your stuff buttoned up. That's how that's how a king runs his business.
Like, yeah, hire the lawyer, get it done right, have a contract in pit. You just need to operate professionally. That's really what it comes down to. It's the difference of showing up in a in a marked van as opposed to a no mark van. It's like you wouldn't even think about showing up to a customer's house in an unmarked van because that's not professional. It's the same thing with contract. That's right. Alright. So what do you think about process? Like, decision making process?
We've talked about good and bad kinda over the course of your journey. If a decision comes across your desk today, how do you process that? Are there steps that you follow, things that you think about? Give us your insight. Yep. I mean, our company is ever evolving. You know, we so the issues are ever evolving. The economy for the last couple of years has been evolving. So there's just a lot of adjustments to be made. I make decisions with with the team.
So, yeah, classic, right, for the guy that likes, you know, working with people. People. You know, my my chief operations manager, you know, architect, interior designer, team leads, our estimator. Please bear with me also over 12 years and does all of our sales, you know, as a team, we we make these decisions together. So we just have a weekly set up, you know, for like, hey. Issues list. Let's go over this. This is what my gut's saying. What do you guys think?
Here's some different perspectives. Make a decision. So yep. Exactly. I love that. The board of directors that you've built inside, right, of of your team, Yeah.
There's there's guys listening today that don't have that, right, whether they don't have a as big of a team as you have, or They've just never really thought about, like, getting other people's opinions, ones that whether it's on their team or other entrepreneurs, even whatever, What would you say to them to be able to facilitate making decisions like you do? Yes. I would say prior to that. A lot of times, you just have a gut reaction, listen to it, You know, you're good.
Usually doesn't steer you wrong. Just that initial gut of, like, maybe we should walk away from this opportunity or Whatever that gut feeling is. And then another exercise I've done just being practical is, like, if, you know, you get that phone call and you got this issue that's to figure out. You're like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. You know, it's just like, what I do is I literally go out of our building and just walk around it. Breeze Simple. Walk around and go, okay.
Is there someone I could talk to about this? Or you know, does a decision? Like, did it come to a conclusion, you know, in this, like, 5 minute walk? Yeah. It doesn't screw your day up. I know it's so easy to just be, like, every minute, matters when you're on. But if you're like, every minute, you know, of my day, like yeah. Because I I've you know, I think that way too. It's just like maximizing every minute. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's done against, like, what I do naturally.
And so I I've forced myself to do that. Yeah. Slow down. Take 5 minutes. Yeah. The 5 minute window is just so practical. Any like, you just said, anybody can do it. It doesn't actually interrupt your day, right, step outside, get some fresh air. And and a lot of things can happen in that 5 minutes.
Know exactly that 5 minutes that you're talking about and whether it's just you either thinking about nothing or thinking about the problem and you know, like you said, maybe come up with a connection. You come up with a a partial solution. All that can happen because you just created a little bit of space. Right. Good stuff. K. I'm gonna go to the speed round here. My first question, it's always the same. I wanna know about KPIs. K? What's your top KPI or the the thing that you're tracking?
If you can only track one thing forever and ever, would it be? Good one. It would be, the amount of custom homes we're building a year, I would say, more than you know, how much how much are these homes. Sure. So, like, how many people are we making a difference for this year? Right? Right? What does that metric tell you? If you know that metric only, how does that then help you understand or manage or run the rest of the business?
Yeah. I mean, if we're dude, our size right now is typically about Wolfe homes a year. Till that's kinda what our whole team takes on. And so basically knowing that, like, what we have on our contract and all that, that just then I know, like, hey. My team is taking care of. Like, we're gonna we're gonna be good. We're gonna keep lights on and all that. So Yeah. That's just kinda that just really zoomed out high level. You know? Let's get these 12 in a contract. Yeah. Exactly.
Let's take care let's take care of the the nut, and then and then we can press into bigger target. It's got k. What book would you recommend, Jared, or a business that they're trying to grow? I would recommend music. No. I'm just kidding. Okay. I was like, I'm interested. You you got me intrigued. What are we what are we doing here? I listened to so much music. Probably more than books on tape or I'd love reading too, though. Don't get me wrong.
Is there is there a favorite rock band that you jam to on the way to work? Is that what is that? Is that how you get hyped up and reach a chest and, like, you know, I'm I'm kind of into the chill electronic vibes right now. So Okay. Alright. Yeah. There there's so many books. I've I love reading, actually. But it wouldn't be like what you would think, like, the the 5 habits of whatever.
You know, like, I read all these things, but the books that seem to to me to matter the most and give me driver is, like, the great divorce by CS Lewis. You know, Chaz that's something I would recommend, like, If that doesn't like, get you excited about just what's after the slag too. You know? All the others that you can read to. That's great. You know, there's ways to tweak everything. I'm hearing you say you get a greater sense of purpose.
I mean, especially if you're talking about you know, what's next after the time of life, you know, like, then then you have to ask, well, what is this for? And what's the purpose of this? And how long is it gonna be? And in comparison to eternity, it's like yep. Thank you, though. Which makes you feel small. It's like, then wait a second. What am I really doing? You know? Yep. A lot of a lot of mind tripping going on there, really.
Yeah. Put you in a good perspective to to receive a a different leading. That's right. Good stuff. What do you think about intentionally networking or masterminding with other business owners? I love it. There's a couple local guys that kinda do what we do. Okay. And I have mover, like, You know, it's it's not a regular thing. It's not like something we set up or Sure. Not a sleep deal, but it's really just just kinda pinging each other onto things. So, hey.
I'm struggling with contracts as an example, or, hey. I'm, you know, so these guys are in the industry. And, you know, a lot of a lot of people shy away from competition. They're like, Oh, I don't wanna eat that one. I don't wanna make friends with the enemy. And it's like, no. No. No. No. We're all in this together. All, you know, there's plenty of work. Come on, guys. So, yeah, there's guys that are literally, you know, our neighbors here.
We're all working the same neighborhood, and we get to get it. We get lunch, get coffee, and then pick each other's brains. They're in Sharpen's iron. And so I think it's, yeah, huge. I think it's really important. Yeah. It should be something. I wouldn't expect anything different from a people person. Yep. That's right. You know, we're gonna have to name this we're gonna have to name this show.
The people person or, you know, come meet come meet the the chill electronic music vibe people person. You know? I don't know how one made it, but I got one last question here for you, Jared. Yep. I've got to know, especially just, and we've we've taken this conversation in so many different directions. It's been great. If you had a chance to whisper in the younger Jared's ear, what would you say? I would say that's a good question. Wow. Don't worry. Yep. Gonna be fine.
K. Yep. There's times I've I've worried and I didn't need to. Yes. Don't worry. Chaz that can be a song. Right? Don't worry. I'd be happy. It is. Chaz would you say to the listener right now? Who is worrying? Who's a little stressed wearing too many hats. Yeah. You know, maybe just trying to put a team together. They've got ambition that's obviously why they're listening. Maybe they're in construction even.
Maybe they they they grabbed a hold of the the the title here and thought this guy's in construction. I can learn something from him. What would you say to the listener? I would say ask for help. Ever be too proud to ask for help. Yeah. It's good. Yep. It's good. Jared, how can the or find you whether they're in your area, and they need to build a beautiful home, or they just wanna pick your brain as an entrepreneur. How can they find you? Yeah. I mean, Google us.
We're we kinda pop up everywhere. Revolve design build. We're in Denver, Colorado. We built within a hour radius So we build up the mountains and build in Denver as well. So there's 26 Metro City, so we don't cover all of those, but most of Cool. So, yeah, it looks up and maybe check out our TV show and yeah. Absolutely. The dude's on freaking TV. Thank you for being here. We will all that in the show notes. That way they can easily connect with you.
And I've got several buddies and connections in that area that I'm gonna be connecting to you that could probably benefit several of your projects and you benefit them. So we'll definitely take care of that as well. But, dude, in all seriousness, thank you for being here. Blessings on your family, your business, that you put your hand to. We just really appreciate you being here. You too, Jess. Thank you, man. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today.
Hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it take more to be successful than just being by yourself, doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
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