On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. You just gave the recipe for success, bro. Yeah. Recipe. Again, recipe. You it's it's up to you to take action now. Right? I love it. He's challenging you. I hope you're listening. You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolf featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be.
We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the real of the real on what it takes to build a successful business today. We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along the way that give a true and accurate picture of the journey of success and how you too can get there. Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and kings like today's guest.
Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody? Up Chaz Wolfe, gathering the king's podcast, today. I've got Eosif Lee on the king stage. My man. How you doing? I'm being really good. Chad, thank you very much for having me here. Very excited. Very excited. You know, I just so appreciated our our first interaction. It was a it was a humble approach. You were like, me? You want me? And I love that perspective just because, dude, you're sharp.
You you you got a lot of things going on. I'm excited for you to share, and and I love that that perspective of just a guy that thinks he's just a regular guy because that's who I am too. And so I'm excited for you. Tell us what kind of business that you got, guys. Sure. I'm I'm first of all, I'm probably not a a your usual guest full who may already be a successful full time person. I'm somebody who's stolen w 2 and trying to grow my side business.
And and given that sense, I am a South Korean immigrant lawyer visit w 2 professional. I'm a father of 2 kids live in New York City. I aspire to take back the control of my time by being financially free and living the lifestyle with options through multifamily appointment investing. Yeah. Dude, you've got that down. It's like you've said that before.
But I so appreciate that because there's a lot of guys, like you and I, who who had great jobs, great, high income earning opportunities and even skill sets because you've put time and work into those things when it comes to your your law practice and stuff. But At the end of the day, you wanted freedom, and I think that is what relates to the listener. They want freedom. And, so I wanna talk about that a lot here today. But before we do that, You talk about Freedom. Is that the greater purpose?
Is that what you're after? Is it more than that? It, like, what does that mean to you? Give us a little bit of the story of, like, what's the purpose? Sure. Chaz that well, basically, I came to a conclusion where given the nature of my job, my job is to trade my time for money. And I I did that right for a while for a couple of years. I tried to go up the corporate ladder, but when I started realizing start questioning myself.
Like, is it the lifestyle that I wanted to just leave for the rest of my life or the maybe next 40, 50, 60 years? I have 2 kids growing up. They want more of my attention. They wanted to spend tight with me. And I wanna give to them, but the more I work hard to give it to them, I'm I feel like I'm in a cycle where it's it's like a vicious cycle. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Become a busier. So that's when I stopped everything. It just just sat down. And started reflecting myself.
What what what are the whys that I wanted to pursue from the beginning? It's like going back to the very start. Right? Why did I start choosing this path, becoming a professional, becoming a a lawyer. Why? And then all started from there, oh, in the end, oh, so that I could You know, I had, like, in initially, and now I had 33 wise, right, one, just to prove myself and become better version of myself every day to Love that. To to achieve time freedom.
I call it TPO, freedom of time, place, and occurrence for my kids and family, right, so that I could provide and then create some some sort of legacy, right, and 3 to make a positive impact for other people around myself. So these were all I I went back to that. So, okay. So is this the lifestyle that I could achieve this? I decided not. So that's when I, you know, started.
I just think about other options, and that's when I stumble upon the book Robert I can reach an employer Chaz and that it it just hit me so hard. Like, ah, okay. I gotta shift myself from being an employee or a self employee. To self employed to a man or investor side. So that was kind of my shift that I experienced about 3 years ago. Yeah. That's incredible. I love how you tied it back to a multifaceted y. Of course, time, freedom, family, legacy, community, impact.
All those things kinda get wrapped up into one for you, but I think everybody can fit themselves into at least one of those. We all have a passion of some kind that fits into something that you said. And then, you know, for guys like you have, high w 2 earning opportunities, it's difficult to go replace that. You know, it's not like you're just because you got kids, you're not you're just gonna jump ship and, do your thing. So now you're on the hunt.
You're on the hunt to to replace a ginormous income, but you wanna do it in a way that gives you freedom. And that's why I love what you're doing. So let's talk about it. Let's talk about how you found real estate. You said kind of the, you know, Robert Kiyosaki book, why syndication, why multifamily, kinda give us the beginnings of everything. How did you get involved? Sure. So, again, I read the book.
So I started doing a little bit of beads, started doing a little bit of mutual funds, like a stock, so I kept That's the easiest threshold you get into. Right? But then I realized, okay. I I spent some money and buy the stock and whatnot. Like, you just wait. Okay. It gets a little bit of dividend. Right? But there's no no activity from my end.
So later, I soon realized, Chaz much as I wanted to make past income where I could earn my time back, I, again, realized I don't just wanna sit down and wait for the past week. It's like I really wanted some activity. So that that's kind of funny. Right? We all want of investing and past income. But then in the end, I think if you just keep doing it, you'll you'll get bored. Right? So I realized I wanted some sort of control of business. So I started looking.
What is what would be a vehicle where I could, at the same time, make passive income, but at the same time, like, get myself this like, and and work and develop the business system. Yeah. And that's when I started looking into real estate more so multifamily because It's it's scalable. Oh, 1st of all, real estate, it's one of the basic human needs. Right? You you need to you need to have a place to to live and stay. And, also, it's always demand is high.
And and that's that's one of the very few that where you can leverage someone else's money. Right? You just need, like, at least, you just need 25 to 30% of the actual price of the the the asset that you can still purchase. Right? You could leverage off of the lending side. So given given all of that, okay, I'd like to do maybe some real estate.
And then when I went into the journey, I just fell in love with the multifamily because of the way the multifamily gets evaluated was so different from residential side. Versers the apartment, 5 plus units, which which is considered to be a commercial set. So in a in a nutshell, that's how I fell in love with the rural state on I've given those those factors. Yeah. I love the perspective there. Obviously, you you kinda had a an analytical approach about it.
It's funny or or ironic even how you you want passive income, but that you wanna be an active driver. Right? And and I I only say and kinda chuckle at it is because that's literally some of the words that I've used myself.
In fact, I had a guy, close friend of mine who had an investment opportunity, and we were talking back and forth and what we what we realized is that even though we were good friends Chaz it did not make sense because he was looking for passive money, he he was looking for someone just to Here's the money. Go to the deal. And I wanted to be the guy or at least one of the guys in the deal. And that I'm just not one of those investors very much like you Chaz wants to just say, hey.
Here's the money and and send me a check. Although Chaz sounds nice, guys like you and I that are, like, fast movers. We're young. We're like, hey. Let's put this thing to use. It just doesn't make sense. Exactly. I wanna try to correlate that to the listener for a half second because A lot of guys right now or gals listening to the show, they're applying the same principle in their business, but they're busy being busy. Right?
Because they are ambitious, young, or whatever, whatever the the caveat in their mind, they they don't want the passive income. They don't want the easy business. They don't wanna build a system. They want to they wanna be involved. They wanna They're wearing too many hats is really what it turns into. It it, like, the the pendulum swings to the other side where it becomes negative. What would you say to person right now because you're wearing a lot of hats right now. You got the w 2.
You got the, you know, the syndication. There's lots of roles that you're filling for the guy or gal right now that's running maybe a real estate business. Maybe it's a completely not real estate business, but they're in that mode where they're doing too much because they thought I wanna be but, you know, Chaz, that, like, what would you say to that person knowing what you know about freedom?
Mhmm. Well, I I I think, That's very interesting because that's one of the things that I recently started thinking about. Like because as you said, I'm wearing too many hats. I I realized that I before, I was trying to maximize my efficiency, and I thought I could. But now I'm I'm a point where started dropping some bulls here and there. Like, I'm juggling, and then I thought I was the maximum level of efficient but I I started dropping some. So that means I'm I'm having too much on my plate.
So I sat down again. Right? It's a always, there's a moment of a reflection involved when you try to, like, speech the gear. So now I have this. Okay. What do what do I have on my plate? And is is it something that I wanna take a long term or something that I could delegate or maybe eliminate or maybe make it automation? Right? Right. So out of this, I started the compartmentalize my works or tasks or functions or projects on the on my plate right now.
And then I started looking into hire some virtual assistant, and then I tried to automate certain things. So this was the necessary process. I think from being a solo entrepreneur to go to someone who's running as as a business because I'm my own business myself. Because I I tried to do everything myself. From that point to to somebody who's who's running a system, right, Right.
And one of the hardest thing I realized was to get given up a certain test, given up the authority, given up the control, And I think that's the problem for many young entrepreneur, I think, because they wanna because they're so eager to do work. They're so passionate about what they do. They wanna do everything themselves. They wanna be the Superman.
Yeah. They wanna and sometimes to a point where they wanna Just just try to be busy for the sake of being busy so that they they probably they will give them the feeling of, oh, I'd love my life for our fullest extent today. Right? But I I think the necessary step for them is to sit out and make sure am I being productive? Not not am I being busy to run the business? And then being productive is different from being busy because you can still be productive without being busy by owning a system.
Right? Right. So I wanna I wanna tell those people, maybe one or few of your audiences are still in that stage where I also because I also struggled coming out of the stage, and I'm still struggling, but I think I'm I'm getting there. Yeah. Yeah. I know you're a 100% right. You gave super practical tips around compartmentalizing, making a list.
What are the tasks that I that I'm doing that aren't ones that I should be doing or ones that I don't like doing, handing those things off, hiring other people, virtual assistants, or or office staff, or team members, or other vendors or partners, whatever it might be giving giving those things away because otherwise, there is no system if it's just you. Right. Right. You and a couple of others. Because there's there's some guy who are listening to right now.
He's like, oh, I don't it's not just me, but he's only gotta help her too, or she only has a help her too in her in her marketing business or whatever. And so I appreciate that perspective. I wanna know if there's a specific good decision. You kinda given, like, this principle or this road map, of of maybe growing and how you've developed.
Is there a specific scenario that you can tell us about where you made a decision that just was like, dude, if I could do that one, five times a week, I'd be, you know, I'd be at the moon. Okay. The practical one, the recent decision I made was, like I said, was to hire a a VA. Right? I tried it before. The biggest enemy was, again, to giving up my authority. Like, to to what degree should I give them the the authority to make their own decision?
I think that's the the the probably the the hardest decision to make. But I decided to give an up certain decision, authority, decision making authority to the VA and and then let him handle it. So what I did was I hired a VA. I sat down, tell him, look, for about a month, we're not gonna do work at all.
What we're gonna be doing is I'm gonna just tell you about who I am and I'm gonna let you watch me, what I do, and how I handle my project or certain things and certain tasks so that to a certain extent, you can do the same and take over that work. Yeah. Right? So that's basically what I did for about a month. I I call it, like, a provisional period problem. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a good provisional period because you don't have to work at all. You're just watching me what I do and try to be me.
Yeah. So that in in in a certain degree, he can make a decision. And when he makes decision, he could think of, oh, okay. Maybe based on given factors, this will be what Joseph will do or how Joseph will make a decision out of. Right? And and and I did that the 3rd month and the 2nd month 3rd month as we go, interestingly and amazingly, he started thinking like that. Yeah. And, obviously, he's gonna have to come back to me with the final product.
Sure. And then I I need to review, but it it getting better. And and, you know, I get really, really amazed for the for the fact that, like, how he could come down to a certain product where I would literally do a same way. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty scary, actually. What I love most about what you just said is that you gave a certain period of time. In this case, you called it a month. Of not just training, not just, like, on the job training. It's, hey, sit here and watch this thing being done.
Now The listener right now, they may not have the capability for that person to follow him around. Maybe it's a task that they need done over here Wolfe they're over here. So the the the principle still needs to remain the same, which is you need to provide some sort of a foundation or a following or a structure or a mimicking or a training.
I don't know how many words I can use here, of of something to give them success in what they're supposed to do because There's so many guys in gals right now, probably, that have hired. They've thrown people into the mix. I know I have. And after 2 weeks, It's like, this isn't working out, but you really haven't done anything to help them be successful in that role. And so then you burn through people and you burn through a couple people, and then you realize I just never mind.
I don't wanna hire. I'll just do it all myself. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And and another reason why I was willing to do that is because even if he's he's my sort of employee, right, I think as an employer, we should still add value to our employee so that they can grow.
Otherwise, they will otherwise, I was continue to think that as as him as just a piece of of, a company or a piece of the system, not a a human, then he in from from his perspective, he he will think the same way. You know, I'm just one of the in a piece of the company and and, you know, whenever I need to leave, I Wolfe just leave. Right? But I wanted him to grow with me and stay long term so that my time that's being spent to train or to teach him becomes worth. Right? Yep. How do percent.
Yeah. And and if it there's a give and take like that, obviously, then it's mutual. There's reciprocity. There's a desire on both ends to serve each other and and it ends up working out for the long haul. What about a bad choice, Joseph? What did you do, brother? That's that that derails you from your plan for just maybe a little bit. Sure. A bad decision I could think of in in a my real estate journey.
So it was about about probably 3, 2 or 3 months into my real estate journey after I took serious serious steps. Right? And and and certainly through one of my potential partner back then I was networking with He brought a deal to us, us, to look at together. So we looked at the deals, was great deals. And I was so excited because only been 3 months to 3 months, and I already I already closed a deal. Like, I was really excited about the fact that something's really happening really fast.
But I was still educating myself. I was not done with that. I still lacked a a capacity to analyze a deal and collect capacity to read probably the seller or study the seller in a right way. So what really happened in the end was we went ahead and we hired attorney and we drafted the legal documents and purchase agreement and we sent it to the seller.
And then the seller ended up taking that purchase agreement with the purchase price and shopping around and finding another buyer who's was willing to pay more and just is packed out of our verbal contract. Right? So We it was sour. It was bitter, right, because we we ended up just paying the attorney fee a couple thousand bucks. Regardless of the amount, right, Right. And so in the end, you know, it taught me a lesson that, you know, education is 1st team.
You gotta know what you're getting into, what you you gotta know what you're doing. And then and it's gotta be enough education to understand the whole process and and then, you know, like, psychology, whatnot, right, between the seller and the buyer and all that. So that was a good learning experience, honestly. Hey, Chaz. Wolfe here.
As many of you know, I have been on absolute mission to help entrepreneurs from all across the country in many different industries, level up their game and grow their business, and intentionally connect with other entrepreneurs. We do Chaz, obviously, through the podcast, but we also have a peer to peer mastermind group specifically for 7 to 9 figure business owners.
We are bringing some of the best and most successful entrepreneurs and minds together in a regular and a super intentional way to not only grow our network but to be able to leverage.
And at a certain point in business, success becomes about leverage, leveraging time, leveraging resources, leveraging key relationships, This is exactly what we're doing inside of the peer to peer mastermind group called Gathering the Kings specifically for 7 to 9 figure business owners So if that's you, if you're ready to level up your 7 to 9 figure business even to the next level and get around other big hitters just like you, I want you to
go to gathering the king's dot com, flood a short application, and, it'll come to an application, call with me and I wanna chat with you, see if it might be a good fit. Talk soon. Yeah. I think the way that you've obviously positioned it is is for your good, which I think is great. I think that's the, you know, cup half full approach that business owners have to take because guess what?
There's probably gonna be another scenario where you realize that, like, oh, I probably shouldn't have done that. And so it it it doesn't mean it's the last one. For this one specifically, yeah, spending a little bit of time on the front end. What I'm curious to know which are obviously knowing what you want knowing what you need to do, having knowledge, being prepared, all those things are great, then there's the other, like, a pendulum swings too far.
Over, then you've got, you know, like analysis paralysis. You never take any action or moves. Tell us your thoughts on where does that where does that pendulum rest in the middle of those two things? I I think you cannot wait for the perfect plan. You can't you can't be perfect to trigger yourself. Right? But also you can't be just studying and just educating. So I always emphasize to myself and to whoever I talk to e n a. It's Education Networking and and action. Love it.
You gotta there's no e and done and then end and done and then action. You you this is sort of needs to happen simultaneously. Not ABC, but AMV and C simultaneously. So you gotta start educating yourself to a certain point where you feel confident. But at the same time, you need to network with others who are more ahead of you in your in your game, and it always always checks with them, like, the decision making you're about to make is if it's an wise one or not.
Obviously, the decision is up to you. However, running by them and who's more experienced than you in your game is always a plus. Having a mentor is always a plus. And then lastly, action. Up to this point, it's still analysis paralysis if you don't do anything. That's right. When I just started again, educate I thought education was an action. Meaning, oh, cause I I I'm reading. Right? Okay. Because I I I am I'm searching the internet.
I thought that was an action, but it was really not because to me now, action, it involves an execution. Yes. Meaning, there is some sort of muscle involvement. That's right. And and decision making. And then and then making that muscle involvement upon it. So rather than instead of just learning how to talk to the brokers, you gotta dial. You gotta you gotta talk to him. That's an action. Right? Instead instead of just knowing how to analyze a deal, and what number to plug in.
You literally plug in and then get the result. So that's that's what you need. Yeah. Yeah. I your your explanation there was not always simple, but it's so true. I want I want the listener to really, really understand what you just said because They're not in order, like you said. They're all happening at the same time, and you continue to educate. Right? At the I had a I had a a client a couple years ago who I was doing sales training for, and he asked me what book I was reading.
And I told him whatever whatever sells something or other. And he was like, wait. I pay you to do sales training, but you're reading a sales training book. I'm like, Yeah. Wouldn't wouldn't you want me to? Wouldn't you want me to be the sharpest tool that you have when it comes to sales? He's like, I guess, actually, now that you think about it, or now that I think about it, yes.
So the reality there is that even at a mastery level where I was providing a service that was unbelievably fantastic, in value, I was still trying to educate. So I love how you're simultaneous all happening all at once, but that differentiator of learning what to do and doing what to do is is a big difference.
I think that if if the listener can take that, that principle, and then even apply it to what you were just saying a few minutes ago about giving things away, making tasks, or list of tasks, and giving them away, hiring other people, growing their team, working on the business, not in the business. And with that level of commitment of inner or of education, action, networking, like, It's a done deal. You have a 7 figure plus business. You've got a great team.
Things are more passive than they've ever been. It becomes easier. Like, You just gave the recipe for success, bro. Yeah. Recipe. You get a recipe. You it's it's up to you to take action now. Right? I love it. He's challenging you. I hope you're listening. Okay. So I wanna know, Yosef, if there is there, like, a discipline or, like, a process that you take decisions through, like, just in life. Could be on the on the attorney side. It could be in real estate. Maybe it's as a dad.
Like, kind of principles are you living your life by when it comes to decisions specifically? Again, again, I I don't know for why, but maybe that's those three things that is still down to to probably the basic ENA. I always try to apply this too when I make a decision. Right? So It's about how, like, how, like, how can I do this? That's that's how question I try to apply for each test. How can I do this? And then I apply ENA. So and kind of flip it in a different way.
So education, like, what knowledge should I be equipped with to tackle this task. Right. And n is the networking, but instead of networking I use, okay. So now who should I know or ask to get further wisdom or knowledge or develop my skill set and this? Right? And then lastly, again, actions like, okay. Now let's do it.
So simply it's it's asking how first and then breaking it down to, alright, what knowledge and who do I need to know and what do I need to do and doing it is probably the simple principle that I follow. And then, yeah, and then and then Chaz I do that, I think you need to have a big, like, like, overarching clear criteria or road map of of where you're going to.
Because you gotta I I'm a good I'm a big fan of setting vision or goals first, and then setting up, like, a small stepping stun type goals. Yeah. And as as as a road map and having a clear criteria, if you don't have I believe in Chaz, if you don't have a clear criteria, of of in your business, there's always a shining objects that's that's trying to track you and then you decide tracked. Yep. Yeah. 100%, man, you are you're given so much value right now. Hope listeners pay attention.
Speed round time. Got a couple questions here for you. First one is this. Dwindle the entire business down to 1 trackable metric, Joseph. What is that? Re relentless action taking. Okay. And how how are you tracking relentless action taking? Just by documenting my journey that that that that that the consistent steps I took on the social media.
So that's one thing I started as I started my journey, starting the social media, and and putting up certain things up there about what progress I was making and what milestone I achieved and then what consistent steps I was taking at a given moment. And it it is really powerful when I come back to Chaz, later, maybe, like, couple months down the road, how much I was able to push myself and achieve certain things on my vision. Right?
So and and then I could tell out, wow, really, I was trying to take the actions here and there. Yeah. It's a big deal, man. I remember I don't tell stories necessarily about my journey a whole bunch on the show, but there was a time. It was probably in 2000 and 19, I think. So a couple just a couple 3 years ago, I found in the spot we had moved several times, and I found a piece of paper at the bottom of a box of some goals that I had written out 3 years prior to that.
And so, you know, 16, 15, 16 time frame. And I had written down some some money targets, some some assets, you know, real estate. Just several things that I was involved with, some businesses, and and some sales numbers, all that fun stuff. And I'll tell you what, I'm reading this this, you know, crumpled up piece of paper. But when I realized what it was, I'm like, oh, I re I remember this And so I'm reading through it just like you just said, and I'm going, wow. I did that. I did that. I did.
What in the world? It was just, I was already a believer, bro. I was writing it down. I was reading it, saying it, writing it down, reading it, saying it, like, repetitively just like you're talking about. Social media writing down whatever. But, man, when I re when like, years later, when I had that snapshot, oh, that's helpful. That'll make you a believer. Mhmm. Yes. Yes. For sure. For sure. What next question. What what book would you recommend?
You already threw out Ristad Portadds such a great What book would you recommend for a 6 figure business owner who's trying to build that system that you're talking about? I I it's always that number Wolfe bug is reaching Chaz important. And if you you read it, I'm sure you read it. Oh, yeah. It's a such a simple concept yet very powerful. Right? I think I think what's important is to to go down bottom at 2 simplicity. Right?
The simple mindset change of where you're standing in your career journey Wolfe affect for the rest of your life, not only you, your family, your kids, your friends, and the amount of people that you can make an impact to. So I I, again, I I will still just put that book out as number one book that you should read. Not not because it it will make you reach just by reading the book, but it will just shift your mindset.
And it it will always come back because I believe in coming back to your initial mindset. Right? And Chaz that very turning point. So because you get you get busy and then you will you will be buried into the system, We we wanna build a system, but unless we always check back to the basic We will get buried in the system, and we will become the system. And we that's why we don't want to. As as you said, we don't wanna be this system or business. We wanna run on it. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that book is is just just the best. You said this earlier too, and I I should have said something earlier, but you talked about this Right? Like, that's in essence what you're saying is that when you have this mindset shift and then you go back and you go, okay. I think this way now, but I used to think this way, or I have this system now, but I used to have this system or no system, whatever the situation was before.
And having that, like, gap of understanding of, like, wow. This is where we've come. This is why things shifted. And to be able to, like, you know, be grateful and thankful. I'm sure number 1, but then beyond that, to, like, understand the progress that's been made so you don't become you know, the very system that you've created, but you're right. That book, it's not just real estate. The business system quadrant piece of that is is what most people miss.
Stay in the self employed section, they've gotta, you know, a person or 2 on their team. They're basically own their own job. So that's what we're trying to do is we're trying free entrepreneurs all over, whether they're in real estate or they're in the trades or they're, you know, in franchising. It doesn't really matter. If you're if you're if you're in it every day, You're on the wrong side of the quadrant. Right. Right. That's true. That's true.
What what do you think about in, like, networking? You've obviously already talked about being part of your E and A, but networking or specifically master mining with entrepreneurs or other real estate investors. Like, how how do you think about that, or do you do any of that? That's that's necessary to to your personal growth and your business growth. And I think absolutely that's one of the the very factor that that helped me the most. So I love mentorship program. I love Mastermind.
I love hanging out with like minded high performance people because I don't know who said that. I I think it's I I get I get Chaz. I get that from Dan Pena. His one of the business coaches out there, you are the the average of five people so that you have not the most. Right? And I truly believe in that because That's what's been happening to me. I don't wanna sound cruel. I know you have probably one of your very best friend is still not making it happen.
Still maybe somewhere down there in in their career path. Right. It's good that you become I'm not saying you gotta be cut off that tie, right, and then not being friends anymore. I'm saying, unless you gotta look after that person, but for your personal growth, you gotta start hanging out with those people who are more well advanced than yourself and in your same field business journey. And also who Chaz just get you into the positive state of mind. Right?
And and not those those who are draining you. Not those who are draining your energy out of here. Right? Yep. So Big difference. Mentors, guidance, mastermind, meet ups, I'm old for it. Hence, I I had my very first real estate meetup last Friday in Manhattan. I've been doing this virtual meetup consistently since since May of 2020 with the the cohost cohost of mine. And then this was, like, a very first official in person meetup, and and it was great. Like, yes, virtual meetup is great too.
Yep. However, the handshake, you know, bro hog and, you know, just being able to touch, it's it's next level. Right? Yeah. Dude, I I It's so funny being an introvert myself. I would have thought, yeah, like, I live on Zoom all day long, and I do. Many days. But the reality is this is that when we've done, like okay. Just last month, June. We did our one of our in person weekends with Gathering the King's Mastermind. And we've been we've been zooming with these guys.
For 4, 5, 6 months with this specific group. And there's some relationship. There's some ideas. There's been accountability, like, all the things that you do in in a in a high performance group. But I'd say when we got together, we did some deep sea fishing, went out to some, you know, beautiful restaurant.
I mean, it was just, like, everything that was just what seemed to be maybe normal that you do in together in person just was elevated, like you said, because We knew each other, but we had never met. It was incredible. Amazing. So, yeah, I I I like in that for sure, especially even being an introvert myself. And being, like, a learned extrovert is what I'd like to say. Okay. I I think I told you this. You I don't I don't think you're an introvert.
You know, I'm telling you right now, my wife wonders every single day with with calls that I'm on podcast, you know, all these people that I'm meeting and stuff. And it's like, no. I've I've learned the value. Of of relationships. And so I count I count value, but I we we are like minded in that way, for sure. One one question here for you that that Wolfe end the show with. I wanna know, especially since you're, you know, you're still caught between 2 Wolfe. If you lost it all yes.
If the w 2, the syndication, if you lost it all, What would you do? I'll do the same. I'll do the same, the education, start networking again, and start taking necessary actions again. True. I I I'll give you this quote. It's from one of the mentors I have in in the group. And it's not quote unquote verbatim. I I kinda washed out a little.
So he said the true legacy of of generational wealth or whatever Chaz the product that you wanna create is not just in passing down the actual like, tangible asset itself in in in a way, like, it could be real estate, maybe stock or business system, whatever. But in in passing down the knowledge and the system of acquiring and managing the asset. Meaning, you could take away my building.
You could you could probably take away my stock, but as long as you have that knowledge of creating the system again, and the ability to acquire the asset again and managing it, you're gonna build it again. You you will build it again. So the the takeaway there for the listener is educate network. Take act actions around building the system. So that way, even if it goes away, They can do it all over again. You can do it all over again.
Yes. If you've been incredible, man, how can the listener connect with you? How can they find you? Try to be very active on social media, and I'll only use one handle for all social media, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, and a website, and my TikToks, it's all Yossef, y o s e f, y o u r, b r o o s e f. So type it in. You'll see me and holler at me, and we'll be friends. Did I so The listener today, if they're listening on Apple or Spotify, they may not see this video of this attorney.
This is this Joseph is an attorney. He's got a he's in Manhattan, you know, one of the one of the premier places in the world. He's got a suit and tie on right now, and and he calls himself Joseph you know, you're brosef on on I love it. I absolutely love it. It it it talks to you who you are underneath the the suit and and and the freedom that you're after. So appreciate that. I look forward to giving you a gross of hug 1 of these days, my man. I appreciate you. For sure. We will.
Thanks for being here, man. Thank you very much for having me again. Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away.
More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself, doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself, What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple businesses and multiple different industries and now interviewing over 2 or 300 other very successful 7, 8, and 9 figure business owners is that it's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs.
In fact, we are putting together 1000 Keynes specifically who are business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe Chaz in the pursuit of excellence in those areas, that it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy. So if that relates and and resonates with you, and you know that you need people around you sharp qualified other very successful business owners. I want you to go to gatheringthekings.com.
I want you to take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit to 1000 kings. Talk soon.