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351 | How To Leverage Podcasts to Grow Your Business

Sep 13, 202332 minEp. 351
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In this episode, Chaz Wolfe is joined by Spencer Carpenter to discuss the journey of entrepreneurship. They delve into Spencer's background, continuous learning, and overcoming imposter syndrome. They also highlight the benefits of podcasts for business visibility, maintaining life-balance, and advice on identifying unmet service needs. The episode concludes stressing on shared entrepreneurial burdens.

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On today's episode of Gathering The Kings. Anybody can be on a podcast if they have something that they are willing to each and give information about. Whether you're the guest or the host, you're being platformed. In the past 3 years, we've booked over a 1000 interviews. This is the platform. This is where the cool kids hang to so many people. And I'm just trying to help people understand what you can go do The. What's up, everybody?

I'm Wolfe, from your host, gathering the Kings podcast, coming back to you here today, another king on the stage. Spencer Carpenter, my brother. My podcast, brother. Thanks so much for having me on. I I'd really appreciate it. Glad to be here. Yeah, man. I'm glad that you're here. You are bringing a message that's actually near and dear to my heart. Near and dear to why we even do this show. Tell us what kind of business has she got, man.

Yeah. So I'm a talent representation business for talented entrepreneurs business professionals and investors looking to get booked on podcasts. In the past 3 years, we've booked over a 1000 interviews for anyone from real estate investors. To hedge funds, to people that that have top 500 in companies. Wow. That was a quick, but very impressive resume there as far as people that you've been working In essence, though, you're helping people get on shows just like you're right here on my show.

You obviously find value in what you do because you're literally doing it right now. There's an art to guesting on shows as opposed to hosting. I love to guest, but it's different. It you get to do a little different deal than host. And so gonna get into maybe the value, for the listener to to get on the shows, maybe even use you to be able to do so. Before we do that though, I'm gonna go deep in Spencer for just half a second here. I wanna know what makes you tick. Why are you doing this?

Why after being successful? Do you still push? What's the bigger picture? What's the deep rooted why? My thing has always been I've been a supporter of talent. That's always been my job. That's our booking concert when I was fifteen because my cousins wouldn't let me into their van, but I still wanted to help out. And so I we were a little farm town, but Like, let me just book the concert myself. I love that. I'm never in a band. I was never the performer, but you grew that.

I ended up having a 15 year career you know, promoted concerts, running call record labels, artists, mag, and everything like that, but pretty much all along the way, it's always a town representation. And The one code hit, I decided to shift gears and support a different type of talent. But as I was looking at the podcast, I would look up people giving to giving away tons of information. You'll see, this is Joe Schmills investor with 300 followers on Instagram.

I realize it's not Mark Cuban or it's not Richard Branson. But it also hit me Chaz. There's not many services out there helping those people. Yeah. So I was like, let me go create something that can support these talented entrepreneurs. And and the thing that really gets me going is why I can get them on. And show. You know, I was I was never going to get an artist on Coachella.

I was not in that position, but I can still get I can get clients on top 10 or top 5 or top 3 investing podcasts in the US and stuff like that. I'm definitely getting really excited. Yeah. That's pretty cool. I think that your angle of helping the, you know, maybe average entrepreneur, not average from performance are that they're not extraordinary individuals. But just they're not household names. Guys like me.

And so The listener might find that funny because I'm the host of the show, but I part of starting The show was I wanted to interview entrepreneurs who had been successful in the top 10% of success not less than 9% of all businesses do a $1,000,000 or more in their business. And so that's who we interview. We interview people who have been extraordinary in their business, but nobody knows. That's because they have amazing stories.

And we've had some we've had some incredible people here on the show that are well known, but by and large of the 400 plus episodes that we've done. They have been, guys, what you're talking about, and it's actually great for them. The experience is great. The outward impact for their business Chaz well as just their authority, I think, is great. I'm sure we'll get into that. But I wanna stick to your story just for just a little half second here. You made a pivot.

You're doing the same thing, but completely different. And so why did you make the pivot? Obviously, COVID had a big part of Chaz. What was the good decision in making that pivot? Why was that a good decision? You're obviously still in it. Maybe it is a good decision. Maybe you've determined it's not a good decision. I don't know. What's what about the pivot made in the most sense is what I'm after? Honestly, if you know anything about the music industry, it is rough.

And people don't pet you and then still ask you to do more work. Working with entrepreneurs is very different. They pay you and say, thank you. Chaz just getting out on the egos around music and just backstabbing the delays around that. I offer a service Chaz is meant to treat them like they're telling and do everything I can for you, but also when there's a problem. I'd sooner say I'd figure it out.

If they realized they don't have the link to the podcast, they had got deleted from their Google or something. They know how to search their email and figure it out. The people don't know how to do basic problems at all. So I really like this pivot. I get to work with a lot of really interesting people I get The learn from my clients every single day. And I do truly feel that the people I'm putting out getting on podcasts are helping other people learn.

This is a segment of the podcast industry where people are here The learn.

And Yeah. There's true crime and there's general conversation with celebrities and stuff like Chaz, but what I really found about podcasts is that what drove me to it is that it took The on demand aspect of Spotify makes it The long form content of Howard Surn and the ability to learn from audio and I, like, hated audio because I spent so much time in the car, but I did not enjoy listening audio since when I found podcasts, but I could word it a lot from someone in an hour and be conversational.

That was really powerful to me. I like that I'm in a segment of the industry that is not just purely entertainment. It is helping people Whether whether they do something with that knowledge, y'all would do the exact thing my client's doing or the host is doing or sparks in their they're mentioning you should go do something else. That's Right. Big to me. I ran a music conference and festival for 8 years where The whole thing was developing artists.

We were there to gather industry leaders from New York and LA and bring them to a small town in Pennsylvania. So they would give away their knowledge to these people that want to turn their hobby into. And so there's just an extension of that. That's cool. Sounds a little bit like gathering the Kings. Interesting because you just talked about the value of podcasts from a listener's perspective. So I wanna stick on that for a second.

Eventually, we're gonna drop the bomb on them and let them know that as a business owner, they should be getting on podcasts. And in fact, this is the service that you offer. But as a listener, I just got done working with, a mindset coach, and, we went through this whole extension of my daily visualization. And a part of that as a person who believes in personal development and growth mindedness and always wanting to achieve the next level, I can't be a closed loop.

I I need to always be learning something. And so I have to put myself in a position, not only subconsciously every day of how I'm talking myself, but then also be able to put myself actually in the position to learn. So to your point, podcasts are an amazing piece of that, but it was funny because in that conversation with him, He was suggesting this, that, and the other. I love audio books, but we were talking about podcasts specifically. And I'm like, dude, I'm on 6 to 10 podcasts a week.

With successful entrepreneurs. I get to hear their stories straight. So I loved how you said that you get to learn from your clients. Yes. The listeners get to learn from both us now, but even being a a host or a guest even. Like, I've learned plenty of times being on someone's show, and I get to learn about them even. Or potentially just the podcast process or whatever. So there's just a lot of learning going on with podcasts. Would you agree? Is that what you're saying?

Yeah. If let's just say you're a CEO of an organization, you know, that you don't want to be in the marketing person's seat. But if you go and listen to, like, just a few hours of podcasts while in Gathering, it saves you the time of reading a marketing book. You don't have to know how to run the Google ads, but you need to know what's effective so you can talk to your marketing person.

But I think that this is, a really good way for someone to become really well rounded in all areas of business without having to put in the time reading books, or courses on topics. They don't want to be involved in. I find marketing so boring. I have set up Google Ads, but that is like it. I do not wanna go back and test them. I don't wanna mess with it ever again. But I understand the the need for it.

Some of the tactics that are gonna mean both so you can hire accordingly or give direction accordingly. Right. You you can really get a handle on that stuff pretty quickly with 1 or 3 podcasts on that subject.

Yeah. Yeah. And there's and to your point, there's a benefit of just searching podcasts, and you can get probably as minute into the detail as how to run Google ads all the way up to high level marketing strategy or any other sector of the business or, like, Gathering the Kings where we're a little bit diverse, and we're talking about stories about how the overcoming or the not overcoming moments. And so I'll use I'll use it as a little segue here.

We just talked about a little bit of your pivot and maybe the good decision of using your talents and moving forward into another industry. What's been a bad decision that you've made practically inside the business that maybe we can learn from and stay away from. I wasn't marketing myself enough. You don't like Gathering. You just told us that. I don't like it.

No. I'm just basing some imposter syndrome for a little bit, and so while I had booked probably 700 interviews at the time I decided to start doing my own, I hadn't been putting myself out there enough. And that's us new into an industry, and there The a few other people that do what I do, but they've done it much longer. I knew I was getting results from my clients. But I don't think I should have waited around as much. I don't like being spotlight a lot.

Yeah. It's interesting that you're taking not only just the awareness approach of, hey. I I know I have to market myself. You also threw in imposter syndrome in there, and we all have felt it. Maybe currently feel it. Maybe run a regular basis, kick it to the side. What in that moment? Because, like you said, you'd already done this 700 plus times, maybe the other guys in the industry had done it seven thousand times, but you had quite a track record.

What is that inside of us The as entrepreneurs, because it it does. It comes at us all, and it tells us that we're not good enough or that we're we haven't been around long enough or we haven't done enough shows or we haven't helped enough clients, whatever the voice is, that negative inner voice. How are, like, practically did you overcome that? I just realized that I had been put in situations where I was put on a platform Kings at a conference or something like that.

People always end up at the end coming up to me and saying that they enjoyed my ads. So even when I thought I didn't do very Wolfe, So I just had to get over written and put myself out there and just trust that Chaz long as I'm being honest and, you know, 100% authentic Chaz It it's gonna work out. Is it the way you get troubles by overpromising or or talking about something that you can't actually deliver on?

But if you can just be honest with customer or post or whoever it might be, The Kings able to acknowledge what you don't know, That's always goes a long way and people appreciate that. So you're talking mostly about being yourself. So thinking about the history that you just gave to us there, if, okay, I've already done 700, but yet I was still feeling this moment of, am I good enough? Like, just reaching back into the cookie jar as David Goggins says and go, no. I know I have done this.

I am an expert And all I gotta do is just be authentically The, and you just step forward encouraged to be authentically you. Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah. I worked through what my pitch is gonna be, but it helped me realize. I do know what I'm talking about. I do have a few things to contribute here to the conversation that may be other people have been talked about, or they haven't talked about it in the same way.

If you don't forget that most motivational speakers out there are saying the same thing using a different analogy. I work with people sometimes since their first time being on a podcast, and they don't know what exactly it is they can contribute. Well, you're successful. So what is it that's driving that? And sometimes The are a thought leader. Sometimes they did develop a whole new system for something.

And sometimes The are just a really good case study on something that people already know about. For example, building and scaling businesses, like Every business and entrepreneurship podcast has to talk about that once a quarter. But you can't get on to the show and say, hey, guys. We're gonna talk about building and scaling again. You have to weed into it with a kind of a unique way.

You have to give a case study that makes it sound sexy again, and it's laid them into it without them Kings like, ah, cool. Another podcast about scalability. I help people with that stuff all the time. And and when it help when I help The with that, it helps me also determine what it is I can contribute. That is whatever lens that is slightly more unique. There's The the the other companies that do what I do, The appeared to me to come from a publicity background.

I come from a music background. I don't really know what that difference is and how I look at people other than I look at them as talent, rather than just like a client I'm getting publicity for. But I I think that it adds some value to the service that I provide. Yeah. Yeah. I I love the angle here because what you're saying is that you're taking your story.

You're whatever the the trade is, whatever the skill set is that you have in the business, whatever service that you're Gathering, The is going to be other people that offer that same Kings, or at least there should. If there isn't anybody offering what you do, that actually like, you might not be in an industry. You're either you're either early and good luck, or nobody wants what you have, and that's not good either.

So it's actually great to know you have anybody that tells me that they don't have competition. I shake my head and say, think again, because you do. And then, actually, what I'm hearing you say is that based on your uniqueness, based on your story or maybe just your angle of the information, either how you've developed it in your own story or how you've able to help other people uniquely based on your specific formula. That is then how your message comes across.

Look, there's tons of podcasts on business. But there's thousands of people that listen to the show and and love it. There's other mastermind groups or peer to peer groups, but my message resonates with some really great entrepreneurs who are part of Gathering the Kings. Yes. There are other groups. Many, some of these, like, international organizations, Vistage, and EO, Like, they've been around forever and ever. They have tens of thousands of entrepreneurs a part of them.

How am I ever gonna compete? A posture center. Right? No. I have a specific message, and that message is gonna resonate with some people. And, look, there's 8,000,000,000 people. There's plenty. Plenty for The. Plenty for me. Plenty for you on a podcast plan. Whatever. It's like, now I go back to abundance mindset with my uniqueness, which Chaz you're talking about. Chaz a dude, I can do this. You can do this. Right? You brought David Goggins earlier.

Some people like David Goggins, some like Andy Priscilla, some like Jocco, some like Aloha. Same thing with other personal development. I knew people Chaz loved Bob Proctor. I love Jim Row. I was like, Bob Proctor's so boring. Jim Rowan is the man. And then others are like, I'm going somewhat new. We're going with Tony Robbins That's what all this is about is you just have to find a way to connect with who your person's gonna be.

And, actually, it's not even necessarily you connecting with them, especially as a podcast host. You're just being you. You're putting it out there. They are connecting with you. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about that because this is what you help people do. Not only help them get on the show, but you're helping them with what that show is gonna do for them. Like you said, I don't just see them as publicity. I see them as a client, as a talent.

And so what is it like for someone, especially you mentioned earlier, maybe a business owner that hasn't been on much many podcasts or it doesn't get much airtime. Maybe they're introverted and they either don't want to be in the public eye or don't understand the value of being in the public eye. Talk to that person for a second. Why would they want to be on shows? What's the value of being on shows for them, for The business? Give us a little story you brought someone that's introverted.

This is just a conversation between you and me. There are going to be other people listening down the road, but right now it's just you and me talking. And even introverts can do that, especially business owners, solo printers have learnerland meetings all the time. That's right. And I think it's also important people understand that while this is a form of media, you're not trying to put me in a gotcha position, but the host is always trying to put on a good The to content.

This isn't this is waste of time for you if it's not good. So the hardest is always gonna try and give you the best conversation possible. If they feel you're struggling, they'll give you time to pause, recollect yourself. The might throw you softball since it's easy to, you know, get get it through. But, like, That's just for the person that might be a little bit timid in in having just some buzz about whether or not they qualify.

But keep in mind, if you get paid for anything, You are professional at whatever it is you do. That's right. Whether or not you're an expert, not sure, but you can still be an expert to a lot of people by knowing more than that. And so if you know even 10% more than the average personal subject, you have something to contribute. Yep. Maybe don't go Pitch yourself to the biggest podcast in business in the world with your limited knowledge, but you can go find some low hanging fruit.

A newer podcast or developing podcasts that could use someone with your subject matter. You mentioned that this show has thousands of listeners If I wanted to go speak at a business x pool of some sort to thousands of people, it would cost me at least $10,000. I've done that for much less and got far fewer people. And you know what? They weren't, like, the right audience I found out. But I can do as many podcasts as I want until I get in front of the right audience and the degree.

Yeah. That's right. To do is put in the time here. I didn't have to build out a presentation. You didn't ask me together a slide deck or anything like that. I was just asked to come on here and talk about myself. Who doesn't wanna talk about themselves? On what it is we do. That's this is such a a low barrier to entry for anybody that as well to open themselves up and give the information. And and and it is about giving.

It's not you're not there to have an episode of, like, an info marshal on your visit. So you're there to give information while you teach people. Hey, Kings and Queens. Jazz Wolf. I wanna talk to you about something that's super important to me. We put a lot of time and effort. We, meaning myself and my team, into this podcast, into the content that goes out every single day.

And if you have been getting any sort of value or insight from this, we want it to be able to reach other business owners too. So we would love if you would like, comment, share, leave a review, post, share again, all of the things on social media, on all the different platforms, or even on the podcast mediums of Apple and Spotify. We would love to be able to get our content into more hands, more entrepreneurs so they can grow business as quick as possible.

Together, we are building a community of like minded entrepreneurs who are committed to growing their businesses to new heights So let's do this. Let's help each other. Let's help each other grow. Podcasting is huge for what talking about as far as getting in front of people. You mentioned being in front of thousands of people at no cost, and that's a big deal.

Talk about for a second here, how an entrepreneur who may be doesn't or isn't currently building a personal brand, but maybe wants to or has never heard of that before. And maybe how podcasting or guessing on a podcast, really, allows them to start telling their story and start working out that personal brand, and how do those things go together? It's a big deal. I I mentioned I don't like marketing. I don't like being in the spotlight.

And so I'm not gonna be the person to take my phone and put some fur in my face. And make, like, Instagram videos all day. Like, I'm not that content person. Not comfortable for me, but I will go and build my brand on podcasts with a well on conversation because that's a little more natural to me. I know for a lot of people, especially if they're not, like, in their twenties, building their personal brand is associated with being very outgoing on social media. And that's The theory up.

But this is an area where you can be building your personal brand without having to do that legwork, coming up with content and and, like, feeling and secure and feeling weird while building all that stuff on social media. I also just think it's good from an SEO standpoint because if you're on a bunch of podcasts, They're all gonna have unique titles. They're gonna have need share notes. It's gonna be a unique conversation.

And then when people are searching for you on Google or whatever, The SEO results are all unique. You could be someone that goes and pays for 1 of The Yahoo Finance articles that goes out to 300 different news outlets, but it's all the same title. It's all the same story. And most of the time, it's a news outlet they've never heard of. But if you do a bunch of podcasts instead, again, it's unique titles, unique shows.

The name is gonna sound more legitimate most of the time versus the Milwaukee press when you're a business professional in Pennsylvania. Yeah. Yeah. The there's a lot of value The, personal brandy wise, and building your business and how those personal brand and and business come together. Also too, I've Chaz, obviously, hundreds of guests now, but that are experts in their field. Some which have never been on shows, some which have been only on a few.

And I'll tell you that the response I get at the end after we hit the record button, we have the conversation, and then we end, is like, oh, man. That was fun. Like, you did a great job. And they're telling me great job. I'm like, no, dude. You did a great job because, really, what it looks like is just this you're talking about just just back and forth conversation. Being authentic, I'm curious about your story. The listeners listening and going, I wonder what Spencer's got to offer.

I wonder about his story because if they believe that, like, you did it, then they can apply that same belief to themselves at courage and and say I can do it too. And to your point a few minutes ago, like, someone who's listening today could work with you, get on shows, and even though they may not feel like, oh, I'm the expert in my field, you still have knowledge that other people can pick up from.

And it's not about being an imposter or Kings, like, I'm trying to say I'm something that I'm not. If just say what you are. Just say what you are and be authentic about it. And I actually think that there's plenty of people who will listen.

And what I have found actually is that there's a lot of listeners listening to this show which I had no intention of at the beginning Chaz are huge The have done way more business than me, but yet Chaz have either been on the show or had listened to the show and reached out in there, and they have complimented me and wanna learn about what's going on.

And it's like, dude, if they even knew, it's an incredible feeling to know that, like, They're so much further down the road, but yet they wanna collaborate with somebody like me. You know what I mean? It's twofold. Whether you're the guest or the host, you're being platformed. I go to concerts still with friends, and they're like, I saw back in Backstage. You don't understand Backstages. It's just like getting at The phase. There's nothing happening back there. But people still want it.

No matter how much I explain to them, it's, like, not it's literally just there's just a cake of water there for the the musician. You get to watch the back of their head instead of their face. Yeah. You get to only hear the drums, and you can't hear the vocals or the guitar or anything else. And they're like, I still really wanna go back there. Yeah. It's this is the platform. This is where the cool kids hang out to to so many people.

And I'm just trying to help people understand what you can go do. Like, anybody can be on a podcast if they have something that they are willing to teach and give information about. And you get all the benefits. You said that this you've been somewhat new to working with entrepreneurs in this business. Obviously, you weren't working with them before.

You've worked with plenty of sense, but have you found, like, I found that no matter the skill set or the success level, however you wanna define that, I guess, an entrepreneur is always willing to share, or at least the good ones. Right? Like, it doesn't matter if they're at 300,000 in sales, 3,000,000 or 300,000,000. Because I've talked to people at all stages. And for the right ones, I at least have the right attitude about business and life, the ones that I wanna be around.

The are more than willing to help anybody at their level above their level below their that we just wanna give as entrepreneurs is typically what makes us great entrepreneurs. Have you seen the same thing? I'm not working with some Wall Street hedge fund person a lot of times. I'm working with someone that started from nothing. And built up to whatever area of success they're at The changed their life and gave them the shot at at generation was.

And most of my clients did not start with The silver spoon. And then that's not the takeaway from people that that did. It's just that there is usually something inherently giving about their nature because they understood what they went through to get to where they're at. And The people are oftentimes very willing to give away whatever they can. I have plenty of people The say, give out their email and their phone number. If you have a question, just reach out.

Maybe my course is right through, or maybe you just need me to answer a question. But, like, they're they are almost always very open to communication with people that that heard them on a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. It's so true. 100 now in and many guests that have just given their direct email or cell phone And you might think that's a little surprising, but I've done it now long enough where it's like, nope. Not at all. And most people, unfortunately, don't reach out.

But the ones that are hungry, The they're more than willing to at risk reciprocate to that person who's hungry. I got a question for you. You've been in and out of a couple different industries regarding talent are, you know, pretty, like you said, high strung busy, at least the music industry is, I'm sure, but I know business is the same. So how have you managed to be obsessed? I I use the word obsess around all areas of life.

Or dimensions, Kingley dimensions Chaz we talk about Gathering the Kings, but there's more than just business to life. Right? There's family. There's marriage. There's your spirituality, there's health, there's all this other stuff. How how have you practically been able to focus on those other areas while growing your business?

The was a way for me to finally have successfully one thing that allowed me to then focus on The other things I was been collecting in life, especially as I was getting a little bit older, I realized that I needed to not just Kings grind mindset all the time. Was able to start focusing on some of the things that are important in dedicating more time to working out or dedicating more time to just, like, cooking at home so I could eat healthier than I had been when I was on the go all the time.

And then obviously spending time with my partner. And being able to build up more of a domesticated life instead of always on the go and always grind it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that The car can't come before the horse before the car or whatever that phrase is, but it's like, what you said The answer was that you grew or you got into a business at the right vehicle that allowed for there to be some inflow or income.

And I think a lot of people maybe wanna skip over to that Kings stage is there was a warrior stage that you're talking about where you had to grind and just figure it out. You you shouldn't you shouldn't some point, though, have some sort of a realization where it's okay. Now I have a little bit more flexibility. It doesn't mean that you quit focusing on the business. It just means that you can you can go deep on some of those other things in life, many areas that you depicted.

Spencer, I wanna ask you about since you've been on so many podcasts, you've helped so many people be on podcasts. Is there a favorite podcast that you have, or is there other resources that you would recommend for the people listening here today that they need to go check out?

My favorite podcast is bigger pockets, and I discovered podcasts as a way to learn about real estate investing while I was driving And so that's the show where I worry that you can get really valuable knowledge from people you've never heard of. And most of the world's just never heard of, and they either have incredible stories or knowledge or resources. Sometimes The it's their mindset. I've learned so much from people on shows like that.

I know that's a real estate book to show, but you can find a show like that in just about any industry. And That's right. They're clearly interviewing the best of the best in their space, and they can get a lot from that. Yeah. I love that. Real estate. First off, we've had plenty of real estate investors, but I think for the most part, most entrepreneurs are interested in real estate and passive income. And so That's a great recommendation. Big bigger pockets is a great deal.

I used to be a bigger pockets. I don't even know. Member had access to all the special equations and, yeah, there you go. Use that to actually close a couple of my first deals. And so a a great resource for sure. Half of my clientele's real estate, the other half are other types of entrepreneurship. That's actually where I focus. Yeah. There's a lot of different sectors of real estate.

You can live in real estate forever and ever and never get bored, even somebody who's listening today to even have a couple of different lanes of real estate pretty unique. Spencer, I got one last question here for you, brother. I gotta know if you had the opportunity to reach back into time. Tap the younger, Spencer, on his shoulder, and whisper in his ear. What would you say to him? Sir, a podcast booking agency suit. So it's People need it.

I I got in in 10 years into podcasting or something like that. It's people need this. They need help. And that that can be sent for other things as well. If you can come up with a service that is helping people in an area that's desperately Kings, there's massive opportunity in that, whatever it is. Sometimes it's not as easy as just reaching out to people via email to get them interviewed.

Sometimes it's building a whole new software system or some type of logistic for structure, but there's a lot of demand out there for solving problems. Yeah. Love it. I love it. How Chaz, the listener find you? Number 1, just to connect with you as an entrepreneur, or if The need to be booked on shows and start telling their story, all over the place, how can they find your services? Yeah. I'm on LinkedIn Fencer Carpenter. My Instagram is my name's Spencer Carpenter.

Ally audio is also the name for our Instagram. And if you go to The liaraudio.com. You can schedule a call or just see a little bit about what we do. Always happy to just connect with people to chat. So, yeah, feel free to reach out. Love it, man. You've been incredible. I appreciate what you do. You're right. It is a service that's absolutely needed. I hope that the listener reaches out to you because they themselves, they should Stop consuming my podcast.

That might be crazy as a host that I want you to no. I don't want you to actually stop with. I want you to start creating start creating your own story, start documenting, start telling your story, start getting on podcasts, and you Chaz use my man Spencer to do that. Thank you for being here. Good, sir. We wish you nothing but blessing and success. And all that you put your hand to here in the year of 2023. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings today.

I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself Kings it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.

What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple businesses and multiple different industries, and now interviewing over 2 or 300 other very successful 7, 8, and 9 figure business owners is that it's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs. In fact, we are putting together 1000 Kings, specifically who are grateful, but not done.

We're intentionally assembling Kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe Chaz in the suit of excellence in those areas Chaz it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy. So if that relates and and resonates with you and you know that you need people around you, sharp, qualified, other very successful business owners. I want you to go to Gathering The Kings dot com.

I want you to take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit to 1000 kings. Talk soon.

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