On today's episode of Gathering The Kings. I think we're all in a different journey. And I think Chaz the worst, especially when people start out in any business or even living life, worse they can do is to compare themselves to others. You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe, featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be.
We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the reel of the reel. On what it takes to build a successful business today. The and how you too can get there. Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and Kings like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up everybody, Chaz Wolfe, Gathering the Kings podcasted. I've got Roman Topgiv here on the Kings stage.
My brother, how are you? Still red, man. Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to have you. And, especially since we're gonna be talking, I mean, your business is a near and dear to my heart of The short term rental space, and so we're gonna you're gonna be able to get into it. Tell us what kind of business that you have, though. So I'd like to call if it's in Hospitality, Ryan, and I think we're in that house. The devil will provide services to a vacation rental people.
So, basically, I come with us at Windhouse Hospitality vacation rental management space, So I'm actually located in Denver, but my primary company just has had a red courage. So k. Logs there The familiar. It's in that park county. It looks fair to play Tallmont South Shore, you know, pick The. It's a middle south park. That's that's Kings my my thought is. I love it. I love it. Not only not only a great area, beautiful, but but beautiful and perfect for this industry, for sure.
I'm sure there's lots of people Chaz, know and love short term rentals, but don't wanna manage it. And so you get to come in and save the day for them. Exactly. Right. Well, my 101, my Pidge, The way. Again, the owners, you call them porting their owners, not clients. So, yeah, whenever they buy a new property, they can tell, well, congratulations, and you just bought yourself a job. So we're here to help you take that, you know, Jake, jump out of your hands and won't do the mileage for you.
Yeah. I love that. And you're a 100% right. You know, real estate can be a great resource for wealth building, but every piece of property that you purchase, depending upon on the type of property is needs work. It needs management. It needs attention. And you guys provide that opportunity for it to be hands off so that way the owner can actually have mailbox money. Right? Yeah. It's it's, again, fast of a thing.
It doesn't really apply to this business model, right, when they're rooted with the euro. It's custom things. I'm like, that's probably defer this away in The real estate states that you can get it, right, as far as the passage. So, yeah, for sure. We we we, you know, We love what we do. And, like I said, it's hospitality needs real estate investing. Yeah. I love that. Okay. Well, let's let's before we dove into the actual story, how you started, all that fun stuff.
I wanna know at this level, obviously, at a certain level of success that you have, why are you still pushing? Like, what what what's what's got you driving at this level? Well, I'll let hold on. Kindly let me step back a little bit. I'm gonna person development guy. I'm a big Tony Robbins guy, and I like to call my my second birthday happened back in 2017, July point I think when I did the UPDW, and it's with the folks that are familiar with The. You know, I was a quirky guy.
I worked at Wall Street. I was like, well, I got The. There's something wrong. This is not what I Chaz signed up for. Right? And they've just started pushing, you know, 70 hours mark where you sent Wow. And I think the reason I'm still at it, because first of all, I couldn't find my niche and find my calling. I love hospitality. I love providing, you know, 5 star service for folks. I still read all the all the reviews.
We got all the properties, so I gotta kick out of that and then take the second Wolfe more. The hate hearing, you know, when I hit 60 or 70, it looked back. It looked low. Snap. I should have done that. Why why didn't I push it? So I think I think that's the biggest driver. It's like living my life to the full potential. Like, why not? Right? Like, you know, run a mix of wine. I run a mix.
So Chaz I have that mindset chunk versus why you do all this versus one I love I love that that perspective of why not? I had so I had 4, I'm twenty 2827. I think something like that. I have 4 edible arrangements franchises. I'm in the process of building number 5 and 6. They were brand new. And I got this email from another owner in Florida. I'm in the Midwest selling their location. And I'm like, on it. Reply. Interested. Let me see the numbers. Tada. Tada. Right?
And I get people asking me, like, well, first off, you have 4 other stores in the in the Midwest. You're opening up 5 and 6. Why are you trying to buy another The? And on top of that, states and states away. Why if why Florida? And I my response was, why not? And so I I totally respect and and and I'll I'll lie in line with that idea why not? I think that the potential of what we have ahead of us is what drives a lot of us out The. For you, was that always like that?
Like, have you even back in corporate America where you really liked Chaz, just like The, like, the veil was over your eyes, or was that since 2017? You've really just been exposed to Chaz. Now you've been running after it. I did go to stages right in the day and gone back to even like, well, Chaz a small kid, I used to play tennis. Like, again, it kind of just slows your hours of wine in Ukraine. They came The country back in 2000. So, you know, I'm I'm 22 plus years in this country.
I wanted to be tennis player, like, I really must have always, like, I wanna do bigger, better things. There's always something. Not not the thing that might be satisfied. Like, even not doing something, not like, well, I got a new director. I can do something else. Again, not not confusing without sharing objects. So in your life, sometimes a lot of you, especially now social media, all these, you know, get rich quick stuff. You can do this automated thing.
But, you know, always, like, to your point, winded on especially if you have these opportunities coming your way, there's gotta be wreath while you have these opportunities. Because Yeah. 1, either you're, you know, you have your energy attracting all that good positive stuff or just, you know, it's life. It's all experienced. I don't I'm a big believer. There's no good of that. It's just experience. Right? It's like whatever you mean of it.
So Yeah. It's a it's a long answer, but I ended up, why I'm pushing. I'm just Gathering curious to you, man. You're only 20 or 28. Right? I mean, I wish I was issues, like, with all of technology and all the opportunities out there. So I appreciate that. Yeah. To to be to be clear, that was a couple years ago. I'm 35 now, but still, I I received Chaz, and and thank you.
You know, I think that there's a lot of, you know, entrepreneurs, maybe even listening here today that you know, some are are on the newer end or the younger end, and and there's some I I've talked to several of our listeners, even even guests Chaz are 40 plus and they're like, you know, first off, you have to have this mindset of if there's more, like, if we're talking about true potential, right, it doesn't really matter when you recognize that there's more potential.
If if even though I've accomplished, you know, 100 of 1,000,000, or I've become a billionaire and I'm 35, if there's still potential, then, it's it's my recognition or acknowledgement of that to be able to go after it. Just the same, whether it's the age or the however much we've accomplished, if you acknowledge that there's still potential to go for, It then it's up to us to then go for it.
So to your point, man, I would say thank you, but, you know, your acknowledgement at your stage, your your growth, that there's still more is the same of me at 25 or the listener right now who's who's 55. It doesn't really matter. If you acknowledge that there's potential still in front of you. You gotta go for it. Why not? Right? Yeah. I think we're we're all in a different journey, and I think The the worst, like, showing people starting out in any business or emailing life.
The worst they can do is to compare themselves to others. Right? That's right. For example, they can look at you and me, like, oh my god. This is, you know, guys are successful. Like, why am I what am I doing at all? Right now, you're just in a different phase of your life and your different journey. Right. So you'll be able to get there. Everyone, we have a role. I know. As a system and as a society, you always measure everything in dollars. Right? How many cars do you have?
How many well, I think it's it's more or less enrollment. It's all about what do you think of it? Like, what do you think about your your success and how much you can push. So Yeah. Because your potential looks different than mine and and mine different than yours and ours different than the listener. So you're a 100% right. Tell me. Okay. So you obviously just dropped that, you know, you're you're born in Ukraine, but did you grow up in an entrepreneurial family? Why did you come to America?
Like, help us understand how you got to become an entrepreneur. Of course. Yes. So I think if for those folks, probably, they're not gonna have to remember The was So cold call country USSR, right, that there was a huge, you know, cold war. Am I still I was born there. I was, like, seven years old when the whole system collapsed, and I saw my two opinions through the there was nothing in the store as I remember with my grandpa. 3 o'clock in the morning, it was turning in line.
It was a metal of white jar to get some butter and left sugar because you can only get a certain amount for a tentative So that's why I Chaz to wind up at 3 o'clock in the morning to wait to get 2 and 3 100 grams of butter or sugar. So I've seen length of all kinda The worst it can be.
And Yeah. My my both parents were engineers educated, but I had worked with the jobs and wanted to Start, you know, hustling some mirrors, driving a toll letter, which was, you know, obviously, The neighboring country, bought and stud, At the flea market, bringing back a salad. So I saw The mostly. And then another was, like, 12013. I started selling, like, lemonade and, like, soda. Like, you know, I was I was Kings start seeing, you know, the cash changing.
It doesn't, like, sound like they're interested. That was I think that was a start to me. Even though I had that vision, you know, Bow Street finally is that's Kings what The character represents for me. Yeah. But, yeah, I've I've definitely seen that Prito? Number 1. Right? Even though you're probably at the beginning, I've been making as much money as you don't see it. 60 figure 8 corporate jobs, but he can't substitute Chaz with Freedom, right, freedom of choice.
He can't get up in the morning Gathering barrel scheduled. Certainly not ready, shut down. Gonna I would say vaccination for entrepreneurship and freedom back back when I was a was a kid and teenager. Yeah. I mean, what an incredible moment in time memory that you can pull from. I mean, these are things that you know, as an American that that I've seen in the movie or that I've read about, you know, but that that aren't real to us. And so that's that's extremely interesting to me.
It makes me think of several. I mean, I'm a history history guy. I love, you know, even Wolfe War 1, World War 2 time frame and, like, all Chaz Like, it wasn't that long ago where people were lined up looking for looking for food and and even here, you know, in America before all that. But, anyway, Chaz an incredible opportunity that you have to be able to pull from those moments. Why for you The I mean, obviously, you came here Talk about that. You came here at America.
You you were part of Wall Street. Like, give us a little bit of that part of the story. Wow. So even The definitely, you know, coming from you. Rainer was about 15 just graduated high school. So, recently, he used it versus going to, like, an igniter 10th grade server register someone The college with Deal Community College with learning English as a second language. It's Yeah. It was a different dynamic. I think the the the the hardest was to The mindset Right. It's a totally different mindset.
It's just, you know, obviously, I was, you know, studying English as from the 1st gradients Kings English wasn't as kinda horror so I could have a stand and speak Wolfe there. But I think it's that excitement. And, and, again, I'm at Sedway Wind. I have good printership, and I'm lapping most anymore. Maybe it was a little bit kinda pushed to me by, like, this Wolfe, you know, liberalized of, like, so cool. You know, look at The all the money, you know, watching Hollywood movies.
But when you're there, it's different. Right? So I think and she sent the wrong balls, and I'll put it in that way. And I would definitely tell her, you know, listeners and viewers just If you're make sure The goals are your goals. Right? It's not like somebody told you, you know, like, you see somebody telling you great life. Like, Nishu, this is what you want. Not not, like I said, your parents walked you. So I think maybe that was a little bit of mix.
But looking back, I think I got so much experience connection networks, obviously, money. So I can't tell if this is with a world choice, but it was just self Chaz a different one that was in it. You know? Yeah. Yeah. And I think, especially now, I think I heard somewhere. It's okay to have 2 or 3 careers these days. It's not like back in the day. You just gotta do it. Work for 50, 60 years, and they're retired. It's different these days. Yeah. You can hit up The or 3 successful careers.
Yeah. I think that there's a lot of wisdom in that. It's interesting. You you spoke on the word freedom a little bit ago. Was that was that a huge push for you? Because what had been told, you were just saying someone else Kings told you what success looked like, Wall Street, Money, you know, maybe flashy things, number of cars, stuff like that. And and that wasn't necessarily what resonated with you, but freedom does. Is that is that what I'm understanding? Oh, yeah. It wasn't.
They're telling me how, like, well, I didn't clear. I wasn't, again, going back. It's only really a bit of solution time, but then The were doing a lot of these exercises, and and it's like Gathering while they're there. You wanna talk about, like, visualize when you have an indasively visualize. I know it's gonna get worse and worse and worse is, like, 20, 30, 40 years out, and you're like, oh my god. No. It has to stop in, like, until now, I don't have this freedom.
I'm not free for what I wanted to do. I'm not free from. Basically controlling the success of the way The. In Korea goes. And I think that was a huge event deal up to now. Like, that's that's so even sometimes, like, oh, you know, honestly not for it. I get to do this. I get to semi, then, you know, schedule. I think freedom to these people don't like freedom. Freedom's responsibility. You're responsible for your own success. I really think that's Right. A lot of the people, like, you know what?
I'll just go and do what I'm saying, you know, and I feel free because I don't have to take responsibility. So that was a huge, and I think me, if by nature, I'm, you know, more I would say Kings of person that likes to get things done faster quicker now. Okay. Bye bye. Not disagree. I mean, it's it's the key at key and just wait for somebody to tell them either what to do or rely on somebody to do things.
So Yeah. I heard on a podcast not that long ago, maybe a couple of weeks ago, that this idea that, you know, a lot of entrepreneurs say we want freedom, and we do. But you and I are similar where the what we what we actually wanted is what we didn't have, which was control. And so we were being controlled, and so it feels like we want freedom away from Chaz. But really, all we really want is to be able to control the circumstance or to control our environment or our result.
And so I think that The free the the the language of freedom makes sense because we feel in bondage, right, because we're we're we're being told you gotta work 9 to 5 or or whatever. Whatever that mindset is of of that keeps us feeling unfree, but then we feel free when we have this economy to be able to go do our own thing, which is really controlled.
We'll be able to control the environment because you made the point just a couple minutes ago, You said you can have freedom, but a lot of people don't like the responsibility that comes with it. And so you can have freedom. Okay. I can quit my job. I'm no longer under somebody else. But then if I don't wake up tomorrow and go do something, even on my own, guess what? No money comes in, Eventually, that that will well runs dry. And so you're sick you're you're successful. You're up to to you.
On that point, I know I can notice Kings get social media. People want to quit their job. It's like, yeah, they need to stay at the next day to put these, like, Larria. They lay off the beach, and I'm like, Come on. That's not that's not That's not free to me. That's that's a see, that's a Wolfe way of thinking about, you know, versus No. You're free to do what you wanna do. You just, like, almost like, you wait and see if, you know, can you wait and fly?
Yep. And, like, at least you put potentially a 100% of our cities. Yeah. You know, I guess just, you know, as we start typing my control, and I think that The other thing that was, you know, pushing me out of the corporate ladder, is, like, I remember the jobs that they wanted, or in its roles, Kings a little sexy, this and Chaz. Like, we're all applying to them. Kings working, making money in, you know, talking managing the records, but, like, not getting them.
I was like, The, you know, sense of not being in control. Right. The basically navigated my royal career, and I think that was full service partially. Like, you know what? I don't have to do that. Like, I'm gonna get to decide my own shots, you know, lead my whole car. We're just, like, trying to piss around, like, jump to these top people. So they can take me on their way.
Yeah. And I think that the morning again, if The, you know, if you look success with people on Wall Street Life didn't have all the big mortgages, huge cars, own liabilities. So it's like almost like this jail, you know, the more you in it is harder to get out. There's no welcome to work on. So Alright. I was thinking of it. This is perfect time.
And again, we can probably talk about, like, how COVID and pandemic actually expedited this Wolfe kind of like, this is the best thing that ever happened to me. I know you know, pandemic and all The bad stuff aside, but I think, you know, I'm The part of the great reservation, if you will. Right? Yes. So 100%. I love it. Let's get let's dive into that.
I wanna know, you know, especially since you've built, a successful business within the last couple of years, you know, really quickly, like you said, since COVID, What was a good decision that you've made in the last couple of years where you're like, okay. This one thing that I did, it's led to, you know, a good portion of what I've been able to accomplish. It's been giving you a couple of year as well. It's, like, almost a decade that keeps sending us through our listing instruments.
Oh, Ethan. Right? So those are the first that were kinda scary. That was Kings my first time. I graduated college. I getting a job of 2008 where, like, lemons fell. Like, marketing was, like, everything was going. Real estate was, you know, going. And my back in Ukraine, I Kings talked my admin got onto real estate back damage development. I think that was a huge because he owned at the time, you know, like a candy factory. So he was a huge change to him, y'all from Chaz into Wolfe.
I think that was a huge going into real estate. That that you did think that's looking back for me, and that's that's Kings what they, you know, use as a passive age, you know, using your retirement Yeah. So I think the biggest, obviously, getting it, not being afraid. Just I know it sounds cliche. Yeah. Just, you know, take action, but honestly. Right? Just just, you know, do it.
I think that was, for me convincing my dad again to real estate game, when he was a little bit older and he kinda, you know, filing the money for a year to do the development and all that stuff, even though Oh, 809. It was scary times when I think it's done. Like, looking back now, it's, like, the Chaz decision they made us best believe in my my real estate journey.
You know, what you just said, choosing to press in when everybody else was terrified is what I was gonna say that I was hearing you say. So I'm glad we I'm glad we align on that because That's all that's all I could hear you saying was, oh my gosh, the world was falling apart. You know, you know, the Wall Street was falling apart. Real estate was falling apart. You know how many times I've had people on this show. I have literally had, I don't know, 15 plus guests that have said, you know what?
I was doing really, really well in o 7. And then I was not doing really, really well in 08. And and so, of course, those people have re rebuilt themselves. But for you, in that moment, you you're watching all this and you're going, dad. We need to buy the stuff that everybody's running from. That is insane. What gave you that, like, what gave you that insight? What gave you that that gumption, the, you know, the fortitude, the the the risk Like, how did you get there?
I just think it's just, again, of his, you know, he and and listing all the The podcast reading the box, and they need the wire a lot for real estate because it's tangible. Brian, if you look back on even centuries, the biggest wealth generating vehicle that's real estate in businesses for financial assets. Right. Like, Dylan's gonna be here. Well, Dan is dating 20, 30 years from now. Right? And then The value of just what people or market is what it's paid for.
So looking at it, like, and Chaz banning all things in The dollar terms of Chaz. Like, in Ukraine, so in from that perspective, all it was, like, now the building's up 200,000, but back in the day, it would cost Black with 30 to 40 to develop. Was, like, even from that perspective, you're gonna have to lose that money. Like, it's not it's not in any world. So I think I was standing risk words. Right?
So how much you can and seeing Warren Buffett likes to say that the exponential, like, you're basically mitigating your risk, but the rewards are, like, so out of this world. So, like, like, that's something that I was, plus again. I mean, it's my own country. I it's gonna be there when I get there, or it's it's just not going anywhere. It's not like a stock market. You can go tomorrow and apples dot 20%. There's nothing you can do. Yeah. So, you know, The those things were in favor.
Well, so I'm curious to hear your thoughts on The same topic, but now so now we're 2022, short term rentals, Airbnb, VRBO, hospitality, whatever you wanna call it. There's a lot of people that have gotten into this industry. A lot of people that have heard about it, but not. A lot of people that have been using it as a consumer, I'm not gonna not use a short term rental whenever I travel. Like, that's just Chaz is how I will always travel forever and ever Kings forward, period.
Knowing that, knowing that you're in the space, knowing what we just talked about in 2008, knowing that we're probably you know, on a downturn here with real estate, you know, short term rentals, just in general, what are your thoughts on the next 12 to 18 months? Well, I'll I'll that's that's that's, you know, another The. I always like to say, like, you have to figure out what your goals are. Right? Like, what are your goals Like, what are you trying to achieve buying Chaz specific property?
Right? That's number 1. And if the numbers make sense, numbers are more or less conservative, Yeah. And all the regulatory, I think that's the huge one. People jumped in, not knowing The regulations are either coming or The are regulations The allow you to do that. Alright. So those are Kings the the 3. Yeah. Having your goals, what are your goals, is it like cash flow, appreciation, like, were you just wanna be the case on the object. Everybody's failed to hear immediately.
Let's let me go into it, but then I'm really, you know, committed to what it's really your call. You just followed somebody else's box. Right. Make make sure the numbers and then you have some some reserves. And run analysis, say, for example, if for whatever reason you can't do Chaz a short term rental, if it makes sense to the alter, even if it breaks even, That's fine. Right? You've got any cover pieces of that. Yeah. I think any markets, and you can look back for it in about 2012.
Like, people that need money like they need money recessions, you know, raiding recessions. So I think you'd all have to deal with again. Knowing your goals, why you're doing The, and making sure your numbers work. Just looking at that specific property. Kind of fed all the noise, and just focusing on that specific. And, like, again, how it could be, you know, because, again, this is a, like, again, it's not a real estate business. It's a hospitality business.
Do you provide You brought in services for people The were state. So it's all my experience. How you communicate better, you know, better design, better service, guest communication, all those things. Hey, Chaz Wolfe here. As many of you know, I have been on an absolute mission to help entrepreneurs from all across the country in many different industries level up their game and grow their business and intentionally connect with other entrepreneurs.
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K? Tell us about a bad decision that you've made last couple of years that you just you wish you could do over, but you just instead, you learn from it. I've been doing a few years back, maybe hang out on The wrong people. I didn't ask you. It's especially and, again, that's get to when when you don't hang up, like, the true north you don't know where you're going. You'd have your goal stop.
You can get, you know, sidetracked with with the Wolfe for how you're going, like, stuff that you're not supposed to do. But if Hopefully, again, in in big trouble, but it helps. Always like looking at it as a learning experience. Well, I think that's that's counting our you know, audience. Yes. Make sure that the people you Kings out with are again. I'm a big believer that you're in the average black people you hang out with. So, I mean, now I know all that.
If you if if you wanna be a millionaire and you're looking at your friends, they like working at, you know, God, the the the job kit you get The, like, it's so I gotta change your life. It's so huge. All Kings write environment and make sure your dedicated time to the people you know, you know, live to, and then chew you up and be your baby's fans versus just, you know, Kings kinda dragging you down.
So I know it's more like not Chaz precise, but I always like when I make Chaz decision if they coop caught him coop, like, you know, learn a lesson in Nirvana on it. Don't don't, like, live in that long have been a decision. And learn from me.
So I'm gonna look at it as it doesn't learn the experience, not so much as a bad decision, but gonna look at Mago probably got a few years of folks, you know, know what to do and be, obviously, more more successful than I would hang out with the right people. Yeah. Exactly. I understand that completely. What would you say? Like, you said, like, I tried to put myself in good scenarios, good people.
Tell us about a time when you didn't, but that you said you acknowledged that, okay, this is not a good scenario, and you try to cut it quick. Do you have a moment like that? Because that's probably where the listener is. They're they they've probably got a person or 2, The 3 around The that are, like, really pouring into them, encourage them, challenge them, having them reach for that potential that we talked about.
But most likely, they're surrounded by a bunch of people that are average for lack of better terms, and they're not necessarily reaching for their potential. So, therefore, they're looking at the listener going, what are you doing? Seems like you're doing a bunch of things that, you know, that are that are that are crazy. What would you say? You have the more, like, you'll start getting people rich up to you. Like, hey. Let's let's let's do this to you.
And I think that's that's the biggest Hope, like, why not? Right? Like, going back to my initial, like, oh, you still need to get it. You can't handle anything. Say no. Huge. You have to think the more success than you get in your need to be. So you know, more than in the ass, you'd think that don't serve your purpose and don't Kings align with your goals.
You know, let me The they just aim to basically make it into our The or, you know, could be a learning experience I think that's that's the big one. And that's, again, y'all was back to you if you if you don't know your goals and you don't value it. How do you guys track? To the people Chaz are basically, hey. Let's do this deal. Can you, you know, lend me money? I think that's another The. That was, you know, here, and 5000 years, that doesn't matter.
Then at the end, it becomes people owing money. And I think that's that's another one. I think energetically, we think we'll leave it at, you know, energies everything and money Chaz their own energies. And as you start thinking about all The people owe money in every every day, and they always have a story like, what? I can't even give a doc to you. So it's just okay to, you know, just cut it out. K. This is, you know, I'm I'm gifting you the money, but I need to move on.
And not gonna think in The bottom. You have the clear mind of your balls moving forward, and I'd get sidetracked all these little, you know, invested in a terrorist. Looks like might be another, you know, Bitcoin, but it's not. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of a lot of shiny objects out there. I think that that we could do a whole podcast just on on on all the shiny objects that we shouldn't be paying attention to.
But at the same time too, like you said, that's how actually, you say yes to a bunch of stuff, and that's how you Kings figure out where your lane is. And then, of course, as you become more successful over the course of time, you gotta be stronger and stronger on Chaz. No. I like The say and, Greg, and, again, he has the the Pixel The, the staying with, like, pick your lane and stay in it. Right? Like, Wolfe, like, master 1 and then pick another one.
Like, you just wanna be clear, focus on watching, be good at it. And then, you know, for example, athletes, right, I don't think there's, like, a soccer player and basketball player to see it. No. They do want a thing. We'll look tennis player. And so leave it. You just play tennis. The can play basketball soccer does just, you know, for fun, but they examined what what they get at. It's just a long sport. So if they could say anything with with business and investments.
Like, yeah, as you grow and you could get stuff, I think you definitely wanna focus on something like mastery. You know, I think there's a good book called 10,000 hours. You gotta give him, like, $10,000 to be good at it. Sure. So it just took us a little bit of a master and he pressed Yeah. Love that. What decision making process or maybe discipline do you have now now that you've been through a bunch of success? Oh, I think I got it. You got it first.
I'm listening to you god that is the more you start hearing that little bit of voice, and, like, it gives you something you'll hear more and more and more and more. I feel like I think you have to listen to yourself. I know it kinda sounds a little bit warmer, but, like Yeah. Kinda like the god field. And I wanna say I like to say, you know, well, let's say when they look at it, does it make sense? Does it make sense?
Don't don't dwell You know, I think they make mistakes, The make decisions quite bleak. Just, you know, y'all with it. You know what I'm saying? But having them The big big fan of meditation because there was a issue in, like, you wanna Kings again, goes back to y'all, so what you want it to be. And then How are you gonna get there? It's just more Kings let it go. It's gonna come to you. So going back to debt, making decisions, Yep. Kings perfect example.
You know, I ended up when you're podcasting. Just tell what happened. Yeah. It's you just have to be bold. And The things are kinda start coming in. People started The, you know, Kings around. You could as long as you have the open mind and and be, you know, open to say it. Yeah. Of course. Why not? So Yeah. I don't know if I answered The question, but No. It's good.
You what you Chaz actually, what I think you've given and a bigger picture for the listener, hopefully, they've been paying attention. Is you've given this really healthy perspective or balance on why not? Just go for it. Versus what are your goals? Does this action line up with my goals? Does it help me actually get it? If it doesn't, then I'm gonna say no. And and these are counter counteracting each other. Like, I can't just go and say, why not and yes to everything.
But, generally speaking, I wanna be open minded and say, why not and say yes to Kings like being on a podcast or or a new business opportunity or whatever it might The, but But as as we continue to dial in and become more successful to your point that you've made several times here, you really it just becomes more like, your lane becomes clearer and clearer and clearer your story, your your purpose, why you're doing these Kings, the
goals, especially if you're writing them down, especially if you're putting them in front of you, meditating, reading, praying, on them every single day or every single week or on a regular basis, then I think what it gives that person is just the confidence Chaz these other things are happening more and more, opportunities, podcast, whatever to say, yeah, that works for me or it doesn't. If this show didn't serve your greater purpose, you probably would have said, hey.
That's nice, but no. Thanks. Again, it's there's I'm a babe, you know, you could probably tell him huge quotes and this guy, Duane Dyer. He talks about you wanna be welcomed to everything in attention to nothing. The you go. It's just it's just so rude. It's like, yeah. I mean, you know, hospitality. Of course, there's all the Kings. Like, it can be making money. Yeah. I know people The do that, but it doesn't need to need go and jump and do that.
It's just gonna hold it and see if that's it's there. Technology, then it's there. Like, stay stay in. Yeah. I'll give I'll give a just a quick example here. I don't normally do this for the listener, but know, talk about my story specifically or things that are going on in my world. But The is parlay is just perfectly. I have an opportunity or had an opportunity in the last 30 days to acquire another edible arrangements franchise. I still own several of them.
It is not, at this moment, though, something that I'm growing. I own several of them. I I went to seven locations, three states, with 60 plus employees. That was all in my twenties. I still own several of them, but I'm not growing that portion of my portfolio. And so I had this opportunity pop up, and it would have been, you know, pennies on the dollar. Like, basically acquire it for absolutely Gathering. You know, maybe 20 or 30,000. Like, you just they they're gonna close it.
They're they're gonna close it. I just swoop in, keep it open, and and that probably would have turned, I don't know, 40, $50,000 a year for me. Knowing that I already know the systems, I could I already have people somewhat close by. We could create a a team that could roll up into my current team. It wouldn't have been that big of a deal, really.
And that's why I kind of pondered it back and forth, but I was reminded by a friend of I I hear you Chaz this could probably be a fairly easy roll up. But you've told me multiple times that you're not you're not growing that that portion of your portfolio any longer. So, like, why are you doing this, or why would you consider doing this?
I know it's 40, $50,000 a year, but that's really not that much money potentially to the headache, potentially, or potentially, you're going in the wrong direction. And so, obviously, as I'm as I'm mulling this over, going, yeah, you're right. Even though it seems simple and easy, I could just roll it up. It would hardly cost me any money. The potential of it distracting me long term for what I've already determined my goals are, they wouldn't be worth it.
So I think this is it plays right into what we're talking about here for the listener because whether you've got an opportunity like that or whether it's just a shiny object Hey. There's other people who are making money or whatever. I think that the the more confident that we can become about where we're headed.
And that comes from setting goals and repeating themselves and ourselves and and just really honing in on what it is that I want and then making decisions based out of what I want and what I want only If it doesn't align up, it's okay. It'd still be a good opportunity for somebody else. Right? Do you have anything that you would add there?
And imagine, like, how much more power do you get them by a note of those opportunities when you're like, it should only gotta wanna do this because it just, again, you know, it sounded easy to you. You know, it's like The our Yeah. Now we're bringing, like, we know what to do, and we tend to do that because it just all becomes an autopilot versus Right. Here, you need to be staying conscious. The is our area where I'm staying the year.
Having, like, your friends, like, for example, be, you know, having five people around you. They're, like, guiding you. Like, hey, dude. What are you doing? This is not what do you, you know? This is not your goals. Right? Right? Just gonna say that. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's it. Yeah. I think it I think it's a purchase perfect example of what we've all been talking Kings. So it's perfect. I wanna switch over to our speed round questions.
First, well, first question in the speed round is The hospitality business that you've described. I want you to dwindle it down. Into one trackable metric. So if you can only pick 1 metric track forever and ever, what would it be? Oh, it looks like gas reviews because that's The primarily that's what people come to us. Like, especially, you know, you know, some people, some families can only afford The vacation a year. If you think about it, The owe hard money, they, like, this is in it.
That way, we're just making sure that they get what they, you know, even more Chaz they accepted from. So I think that's that's number 1 in in our business. And I think, again, going back to clients, say, The are reviews we have, look at how we're treating our gas and, like, that's I think that's that's not the one at least to me and think that the industry itself, it's all about it's all about gas reviews and and satisfaction. Yeah. Because you're right.
From a from an angle of I mean, I can apply reviews to lots of different industries. Obviously, hospitality is huge. Not only does it help you with that returning, like, that next possible guest who's gonna stay at that property because they're gonna look at reviews.
But then for you to go get another sale or another property, another owner, They're gonna look at your performance and your performance, obviously, as a management company or hospitality management company is gonna be, you know, slugs determined on those reviews. And I did you can't go back there for the I think this is, again, could be other, like, industry edging. That's one of the interesting that all the stakeholders, interests are aligned. Right?
If you think about a guest, owner, you know, community, like everybody, right, the the better best experience, the property needs to be nice. The property, the more well gap, the happy of the honor, he makes the The head care the the battery and nice building, the the area in The, like, the road state neighborhood is better, the value of your house. Everything is lined up perfectly. Right? So it's always like a curve ball of ring for a relation, and everybody's he's unhappy. Equals Kings money.
Make money. Wolfe, you know, the good, good solution here. So I think that's that's kinda The best metrics you can track in RBC. You know, hopefully, the employees are happy because you know, the the owner isn't happy, the guests are happy, and everything else just falls into place. Yeah. 100%. Love it. What book would you recommend that a 6 figure business owner read, Roman? The one that made a huge impact recently Chaz to, especially, and as you've grown, it's not helped by Dan Sullivan.
Yeah. Sure. It was a huge, just by us. The, like, why am I doing this? Do should I be doing The, or I can, like, delegate It seems cute just as especially as you scale it through host. Right. Like, there's especially when you, you know, when you start an element, The do everything you sell about like, a CFO, a CEO. Alright. Like, but as you grow, you need to be delegating. And there's so much bird itching. Like, then a lot can do this.
I can save old Dallas here, but, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think that's And I'll pass it again. Before that, that was a huge family, Gemflow quadrant by Keith. You know, everybody's upset. We're able to port Chaz, like, sense of huge. You wanna figure out where you wanna be.
You wanna be on that, you know, ERS, IAB, So The that, I don't know how, definitely, my other The last 2 years was a huge Kings Chaz the way I'd sync and the way operate. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that not only do I agree with you, but the who not how applies to so many different service. Right now, you and I are a who for each Gathering.
It's incredible when you can really grasp this mindset of what a who is, obviously, that we're providing value to each other in completely different ways here right now. Even as we're providing value for others. We together are a who or someone listening, which is really powerful when you think about that. It's not just about delegation, but it's about It's about relationships and key particular specific intentional moments and people that that can add value to the overall The goal.
You were gonna add something there? Yeah. If your goal is to take The again, yeah, I'm still guilty of The. And as people like, well, I wanna help goals. How I'm gonna get The heads up immediately? How I'm gonna need more money help versus who can help me get them? Like, versus to take off that towel, You don't need to know how, like, peep there's gonna be, you know, people will help you. So I think send you a way to your apply light.
We're moving forward for and, like, how do we know how The still napkin really just happen. And so Yeah. Maybe don't don't, like, dwell on now. But along just the people coming in, like, you know, obviously, now we're again, because you never know who was gonna be The person that gets you to your goals. 100%. Yeah. I'll give a quick example here. I've got a guy in our mastermind group that is pretty new to business, probably 3, maybe 4 years in. Probably gonna do 10 or so,000,000 this year.
And and the reality of it is is that there's a huge section of his business that he has no clue personally how to do it. And it he hired a person who knew this Kings. And they thought they said, hey. Why don't we offer The service? And he's like, okay. Let's let's go.
And then they started hiring more and more people around this one particular person who could lead them, and he has this whole section of his business doing 1,000,000 and 1,000,000 of dollars that he personally has no clue how to do. And it's it's the exact format you're just talking about. It's not how am I gonna get there. It's Who do I need to connect with or know or hire or partner with? Or it's just who? It's just who.
You know, I think I think even just the the connect I think right before maybe we turn on the recording, you were asking me about how we met, or I can't remember exactly how we got connected, but it's like things like this where you're like, I don't know where this is gonna go. This is gonna be this incredible opportunity for for like Kings to come together and and amazing things to happen out of it. Who knows what Well, that's perfect. And I think ability to let go.
I think that's what a lot of, like, getting into financials struggling, like, letting go and have other people's due what they not good at. Again, going back to your front, they don't even know how to how to do the business, but he owns. Right. Right. So The perfect example goes The the Richard Branson you know, obviously, he he handled, well, that's 400 plus different companies. Like, obviously, he's not running. Right. He has people that do it for him. So I think that's that's annoying.
More on a on a level, but it's it's the same mentality of of you gotta let go. And you don't think about helping, like, You have The people in your in your team. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. Last question here for you, Roman. Actually, no. Two more questions. I got I got a I got a small question for you.
We're talking about the same thing right here though, so I don't wanna beat beat the beat the dead horse here, but What are your thoughts on networking or master mining specifically with other entrepreneurs? Oh, that's a must. K. And what? Again, going back to the The 5 people of, you know, have her The 5 people to use your own The Chaz Wolfe and have a huge believer You're gonna have to create a wheel.
Like, if if if you there's stuff The you wanna do, just don't meet those people, talk to The, and just basically, you know, follow The opinion Hello, ma'am. Shannon, you don't need the best way. Right? It's just again, if you're not in a competitive market, you can do that. But it's it's life. That's not what I've got. It's it's all about Chaz. Leanne, because you start The see as well. He make a $1,000,000. Why not me? Right?
And the majors become See what they do, follow what they do, learn from them. So, I mean, I'm porting, what, 2 Kings clients. I don't know because I It's it's it's like it's not even it has to be it's by the fall. Like, it can't just be a solo man, and you think you know it all. Yep. So I'm I'm a I'm a big proponent of that. K. Last question for you, Roman. If you lost it all, What would you do? Wolfe, I would be in hospitality way like sooner and providing services to people The. Yeah. I did.
Like I said, I Chaz found my niche. I love, you know, Kings care of people's, you know, basically experiences. And when I get those acknowledgements or reviews, I'll just get kicked out of it. I feel like I'm kinda wordy The I'm doing all something that's good community, you know, not just making money. Right?
And the thing that's, you know, they leave reviews, mentioning, like, it's just The it just connects to that, you know, that the flows level that the people can't connect when they feel gratitude and The decide when they're grateful. Yeah. He can get The in the end. You know? So I think that's The human touch and service that's that would do it over again and and then faster.
Yeah. I love that that idea that you would do it again and just faster because, obviously, like you said earlier, it's who you've surrounded yourself with, knowledge that you have, you'd obviously be able to do it faster. Roman, how can the listener find you? Whether they whether they're in the Denver area and they wanna find a place to stay, or they're just an entrepreneur or they wanna connect with you and get to know you better. How can I Sure? It's he. Can you look me up?
I'm on social Robin The. It's t 0 amp, a v, and a company's SkyHouse It's been dotcom in the house. It's spelled in German, h a u s. So it's s k y a u s management dot com. And I'm The. You can email. You're robincomplett@gmail. That's great. Yeah. We'll drop all that in the show notes. For the for the listeners as well. Thank you for being here. You've been just a a pillar, really, of strength.
We all know that you spent so much time success outside of your business before you even started a business with the with the background that you have with your family. I just I love the story. Thank you for sharing. We wish you nothing but success, blessing, on your business, on your family, all that good stuff. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I will hope, you know, you're listed as we'll find some value in this conversation. Thank you. I'm sure they will.
Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
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