On today's episode of Gathering The Kings. There are just some things that you're not gonna be qualified to do. Don't it doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter your Elon Musk or or your Trevor Summer, you know, there's gonna be things that somebody else is gonna do better. And if you're willing to bring somebody on and and partner with them and you know, navigate some of the friction that will come with that. Yeah. You're gonna be better off for it.
You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe Gathering fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars, from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the real of the real on what it takes to build a successful business today. The picture of the journey of success and how you too can get there.
Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and Kings like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up everybody? Chaz Wolfe Gathering the Kings podcast today. I've got Trevor Sumner here on the Kings stage. My brother, how are you? We're here finally. Chaz, we made it. Kings well. I appreciate you being here. I the listener doesn't know. We weren't having technical difficulties.
I was projecting my technical difficulties on you somehow. Yeah. We gotta figure it out, and we're here now. Freaking out, but we made it. We did. What kind of business do you have, my man? I own a solar energy business. Based in the Midwest. So we do residential and commercial solar panel installations Yeah. Across 4 states. Love it. What are the 4 states? Where you at?
Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa. And then we do a little bit of business in Florida because we, yeah, we're always looking for an excuse to extensive expensive flight down there in the wintertime. So, 100%. I had the same people ask me The same type of mindset when I bought my edible arrangements location in Pensacola, people like, why? Why Florida? My answer? Why not? Why? Come on. It is the sunshine state.
It is, especially here in the Midwest when we only get nice weather a couple, really, couple months. But your neighbors to to me here in the Kansas City area, so I'm excited to have you on. Before we jump into your story, I wanna know what makes you tick, man. Like, you're building a business You've been uber successful already, but you're still, like, going after it, showing up for podcasts, come fun stuff, building relationships, Why?
I just I like to stay busy, and I like to see what's out The, what's new. So that's a solar energy's fairly new in terms of a product or service, right, So what we try to do is we try to take that from a culture standpoint at Sun Badger. So we're always looking at new technologies, new relationships, We're pretty big on adopting, especially things like slack. Slack is an awesome technology that we've got at the company.
Yeah. I'm always just looking for ways to make the business better and faster and also more fun. We got a lot we had a lot of fun here. I can appreciate having fun in business. Not everybody. Not everybody thinks fund and business go together. Crazy guys like you and I do. Yeah. What's the bigger picture for you? What's is there, like, a life mission attached to solar or maybe business building?
What's Trevor really I like to say we're trying to figure out a way to save the environment and get rich at the same time. Or is that possible? Are those two sides of the track? It is not. It is definitely possible, and there are a whole bunch of people doing it right now. So Right. Yeah. So that's that's what we're working on. I would say big picture stuff.
I love the outdoors, so I really love the idea of owning a business that is trying to help the environment, right, and creating a better place for my son. I got a four year old. So there's a lot of passion in my work there. I want him to be able to grow up in a world that he can go and hike in Forest and swim in a lake and enjoy the outdoors like I did and my dad did and my grandpa did. That's cool, man. Outdoorsmen, fishermen, hunters, anything like that, or just hiking is what tell The.
I'm from Wisconsin, so all of the above. Yeah. And we drink beer. Right? Yeah. I'm yep. I'm a big I'm really big on exercise. Okay. In in in my professional life too, just in in terms of staying healthy, mentally, and physically. Yeah. I tend to end my end my work day on my bicycle, and I try to get in maybe 20 or 30 miles. The trick is to buy a really nice set of headphones like AirPods, and you can actually do conference calls sometimes on your bicycle and nobody is the wiser. Interesting.
I might have to I might have to try that. Do you think I could pull off a podcast on the bike? A podcast might be tough, but you could definitely do a conference call, especially if you just mute most of the time. Right. That's right. I I wish I got one of those an answer. Yeah. I've got one of those, like, indoor where you can take your bike and bring it inside and and do the deal. Wonder if I just I could just set it over in the corner and video, I could still do the pod. Can't do that.
Yeah. It might I might be a little out of breath. That's alright. I love for me, the empty space that the road allows. So I love where you're going with Chaz. Okay. So you're you're pretty purposeful. You're doing this thing for some bigger stuff. How did you get started? Was this the 1st business? Did you get started another business beforehand? Give us your day Yeah. This was the first business debt that I founded with my business partner.
I got a job in solar energy from from my business partner. He was my boss at a previous company. Okay. Yeah. We had a good relationship, and we were pretty successful at that other firm. And we saw the opportunity in the industry and Got some money together, and he and I became business partners. Now I don't have to listen to him anymore. Not my boss. That's right. I can collaborate now. With him instead just taking directions from him. No. He's that. Yeah. He's a great guy.
And he he had been in the industry for a number of years before Chaz. And then I got lucky. I'm married as sister. So now he's my brother-in-law as well. Yeah. Now you guys are you're really Now we're in it. You're in it. Tell me from an angle of, like, mindset, entrepreneurial mindset. Did was that something that you already or always had beforehand? And The just finally illuminated itself, or did we have you establish this over time?
I would say The opportunity Kings just presented itself, and I ran with it. And I was really successful. And I, yeah, I think that's for anybody listening, right, just Kings for those opportunities and taking a Chaz. When we started the company, my wife was pregnant with my son, and it was just The and I and maybe 2 other employees. And I was on the road, and he was back behind the scenes. Working on the website. And then from there, you just added people.
I just used the talents that I had, and I learned and made a lot of mistakes and learned some more. I don't have any formal training. I don't have an MBA of dropout, right, college dropout entrepreneur. So there was a big learning curve for me. But I think that brought a lot to the table because I had ideas that were outside of the box, and I was willing to make some gambles and take some risk because I Pretty much. I Chaz nothing to lose.
Why in that moment do you think that you were maybe prompted or maybe you were prepped for that type of entrepreneur, like, that jump, that opportunity you're talking about. If rather than maybe looking for another job, just at another company or building with someone else, but you saw the opportunity to do it yourself. What was unique about this opportunity? I had been successful selling solar energy for a different company. And I found it to be pretty easy.
And so the opportunity presented itself for me to do it myself, and I figured I would be pretty successful at it. And Yeah. And that was really it. It was something I was already good at. It was something that I really enjoyed Kings, and I was passionate about. And I just figured, well, why not just try to do this on my own and inform this company? And then the way that a company organically grows, it's just incredible. Right?
You start with 4 or 5 employees and then you hire a couple here or there. And then before you know what, at Sunbadger, at least, we got a 116 employees across 4 states and would never have anticipated being in that place. You wouldn't I we didn't start the company thinking, hey. We're gonna be at $45,000,000 in 4 years. We started the company thinking, Yeah. We could probably do this on our own. Maybe we'll make a decent living, and we'll see what happens.
Yeah. Yeah. I love the simplicity of where it's come from. Like, you just said, like, we just could just get started. It just made sense. I was already good at it, and it's obviously trickled into this very successful thing Chaz you're saying. So I wanna dive into some of that. I want you to go back in time, though, to maybe your 1 or 2. I want you to identify a good decision that you made that you can share with The listener. That has ultimately led to a bunch of your success.
Best decision I made was coming to terms with the fact that I am not going to be the best at everything the business needs. K. And we're just realizing that right away, like realizing that maybe I'm not the best person to manage the finances of the company. There are probably people who have a lot more experience than I do. So I'm talking really about recognizing your strengths and weaknesses as a as an entrepreneur or a business leader.
And then my one of my favorite words is delegate Just delegate. Find the right people and start carving out like that organizational structure at the company and There's some surrender that comes with that. Right? You start a small business and got a lot of control, and you gotta be willing to give up that control bit by bit. Yep. But it is the probably the most important way to grow a small business into something larger is to start delegating and relinquishing Yeah. Was there a moment?
Was there a spot for you where you got frustrated and finally gave it up, or was The a talk from your back boss that said, dude, you gotta let go of the The? Like, how did you come to that conclusion, or was it okay for you today? The I got sick of paying Kings. Physically paying them. The task. And that, yeah, the task of paying them and trying to trying to come up with a way of logging Chaz.
And I guess that was just one event in many that that taught me that lesson, but it was just like, I don't like doing this. I'm not very good at doing this. He's gonna be better at it. And let's get that person in here so I can do the things that I'm good at, and then focus on those.
Yeah. That that moment that you just described, I think every entrepreneur listening right now Chaz felt that now whether they've taken action like you have to go find the person and get them in place, is like step 2 in Chaz. But that feeling that you described, what there's the accounting process or whether it's managing salespeople or doing sales or doing The fulfillment Whatever it is. We have those moments where we're like, dang.
It feels like you're, like, walking through quicksand a little bit. And and so the answer for you that you're sharing with the listener right now, just make sure I'm clear. If you don't like it, if maybe you're not so great at it, it's probably a pretty good indicator that there's somebody that you could find and hire and delegate. Oh, 100%. Absolutely.
Yeah. If you're waking up and you're staring down a task that you're dreading or you're putting it off and you're in a position to get somebody else to do that, for you and do it better. What I don't know. What would be the argument not to delegate that task? Yeah. So simple. I think a lot of entrepreneurs I'm gonna I'm gonna flip this on its head here for a second because I want you to share your opinion on this. Think a lot of entrepreneurs find themselves capable. Right?
Maybe they don't love Kings the, you know, logging of the expense of paying the Kings. I'm good at it. It's fine. It's not but they don't have that, dreading it or staring it. They had this overall arching, I'm overwhelmed. I got too much. They would probably agree to that, but they don't know how to necessarily say The task right here, I'm, like, staring it down. I'm really, like, procrastinating, so let me delegate that. Just they have this overall feeling of frustration.
I'm overwhelmed to wear too many hats. Say that that person, because you just made it sound so simple. Identify the The, hire somebody, move on. We'll just have that person. Yeah. In terms of what overcoming the obstacle to that or yeah. Yeah. Maybe they haven't identified the the actual task or or motions because they're pretty good at Maybe most Kings. Sure. I see.
Yeah. For me, it was rec again, recognizing what I was really good at and and the value that would bring and then lining it up in some sort of just quick calculation with the other task that it that we're talking about. Okay. I could log these expenses and I could probably do that every day. I'm capable of it. I don't necessarily enjoy it. Or I could go out and I could sell a commercial solar array, and that would generate a $150,000 in revenue, and I'd be much happier and better at that.
That's a quick formula there. Right? Yeah. You'd so now I'm getting rid. And now I'm delegating that expense logging, and I'm focusing on something that's gonna be generating revenue for the company moving the company forward, something that I'm good at and something that I like doing. Yeah. Yeah. The point there that you made so beautifully and so almost easy that it just rules right out of you is that you identified the things that you were the best at. Yeah. You're capable of the entry.
The logging, the data, whatever, or in some people, they might say, I'm capable of doing that sale. The, really, the back end systems I'm really good at or I heightened myself, from from Chaz. So maybe I need to delegate the sales process or whatever the the task Kings. But And I and that idea that that is down at least at our organization, right, from a culture standpoint. If you're doing something and, yeah, you Chaz get through it and you can do it, but you're not passionate about it.
Or if you're better at something else, then we encourage at Sunbadger, our 100 plus employees who we encourage them to find out what that is. And and let their managers know, hey. Here's the role I'm doing. I like it. I'm not great it particularly, I could be doing this better or just moving through the organization. So we try to create that type of that type of openness and dialogue with our employees. Yeah. 100%. I love it. Okay. Let's flip the script.
What bad decision have you made, especially early on, that, you can steer us clear or steer the listener I bought TV advertising in our 1st year. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Tell us more. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that was out. If you're talking about a particular decision, Yeah.
But TV advertising, big TV package, and didn't even have the didn't even have the process or the pipeline set up to to really track and and figure out how much value or what the customer acquisition cost was on that piece of advertising. So, yeah, just took a big old stab. Just let's see what happens. And they got me because they're like, hey. You and your business partner can be on the commercial, and it's gonna be broadcast across all these channels.
And Yeah. At first, I had my friends and family texting just saw you on TV. Oh my gosh. I'm so happy for you. And then I looked, and that was, like, a tenth of the operating account to do that commercial. I was like, oh, shit. That was a bad call. Yeah. So I would say, yeah, I would say, yeah, spend your dollars wisely early on and and look at your budget and say, hey. Is this some is this a nice to have or a need to have?
My buy am I spending this money because it's gonna it's in the right inch of the business, or am I stroking my ego with this purchase? Yeah. What I didn't hear you say is to not spend money I heard no say it was money. Was to be careful. Okay. So Yeah. Not to give us give us some more thought there. Give us some mindset there because you obviously gotta spend money, make money, especially on Gathering. It seems like you were in the right vein. You were trying to get new customers.
Yeah. Yeah. But and what we'd but what we hadn't figured out at that point was our best customers come from an entirely different area of marketing, right, not TV advertising on a regular box The channel or something like that. Right? They're coming from digital ads and whatnot, but it took a little while for us to figure that out. Yeah. You've gotta spend money.
One of the things that we're I'm really big on, especially when you're in a high growth company or high growth industry, is hiring before you're desperate. For a person in that role. So, you know, if I need a certain employee and I think I need The 45 days from now, I generally try to hire him early every time because the last thing you wanna do is be behind the ball on a crucial hire or even just The a hire that you need to keep the wheels moving. People need to put 2 weeks in.
People need to go over their job offers. They they're gonna negotiate Some people don't even show up for their interviews or their 1st days. You know that. Right? It could Yeah. Interview a person twice make them an offer. They they negotiate with you, and then they finally accept it. And then their date, 1st day work comes and they just don't show up. Yeah. One of the things that we benefited from was hiring ahead of The.
And putting the pieces in place to be successful on that end on personnel end. That's a great, great piece of advice. I would highly agree with that. The mindset that's on the other end of Chaz, though, is, you know, the the reason why they wait so long is because they were trying to get by without that person to begin with because The they didn't either wanna pay or maybe cash flows. Yeah. Or they didn't wanna delegate or they didn't wanna delegate that I'm capable.
They're like, well, I'll just keep I'll save that I'll save that $55,000 a year salary, and I'll just keep doing Chaz. Yeah. And I I hate it. Cash flow holds can hold everybody back. So I guess it would depend on the business and where it sits from a capital standpoint to to make the best decision, but I, yeah, I always generally here on the side of hiring earlier than later. Yeah. Yep. Hey, Kings and Queens. Chaz Wolfe. I wanna talk to you about something that's super important to me.
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Let's help each other grow. I love the mindset there. Tell me about a process or maybe it's a discipline now. So fast forward to today's world. How do you make decisions now in the business, in your life, that type of a thing? Decision Kings, at SunMedger, at least, is now done on the executive level. So we've got I've got 2 primary business partners.
And so the 3 of us make the make the majority of the large decisions, but we also the 3 of us each work in a different sphere of the company, which means that a lot of times we're streamlight where we're going through our own projects and and working on things off to the side, but then large decisions we collaborate on.
And then, yeah, but then, you know, because we've got over a 100 employees, we obviously give authority to people blow us on the organizational chart to make decisions without even asking us. So, yeah, I I'm looking more like a corporate kind of structure as time goes on as the company grows. Yeah. Yep. Early on, I I just tried to operate. I'm okay. What is this gonna do for the business in the long term and the short term, is this in the best interest of the business?
And I learned my lesson after that TV commercial. That's right. Yeah. I also re I also reread my emails, generally, before I hit send. I know that seems like a really It's so good. Oh, man. So good. It's really valuable. Yep. Reread your email before you hit send. And not necessarily grammar. I don't really care about. I'm actually really bad about grammar. And and I also don't waste a lot of time with Hey, Chaz, comma, new paragraphs. It was great speaking with you yesterday.
I'm just following up on the no. My emails generally consist 3 or 4 lines with no intro and no outro because I write over a 150 emails a day. And if I if I add 5 or 6 fluff sentences to each one. I'm out probably 30 or 45 minutes. Yeah. But I do reread them before I send them to make sure that the mess that I'm trying to get across is there. I also when if I'm I don't wanna say under the gun, but let's say something's gotta get done quick, or maybe there's a fire that's burning.
Yep. I still take my time and think about the decision and even run it past another person because there's very few decisions. There's very huge fires that are gonna burn your company or what you've built in the next 30 minutes. Right? Like, it can probably burn a little longer. So take your time, ping somebody, if you've got a mentor or a partner and and figure out the best solution. Try to be proactive. Don't be reactive. Yeah. I love that.
In in the midst of all Chaz, you're you're saying that quick decision making is a positive skill set. Yep. But you're also calculating. It's not just feeling decides. Although some some decisions go like Chaz, yep, especially on some of those bigger things you're saying, hey. It's okay to pause. I was just talking to a guy, I think, yesterday before, about this idea of this emergency.
The had gone on a 5 week RV trip and first big major, you know, step away from his business, a little bit of a stress test, and the team did great, and Chaz was fine, but he had this realization that I have cell phone service or not. There's not really a Wolfe lot I could do for him anyway, whether it's tomorrow, whether it's next week. I will take care of it. No big deal.
And then what that does in that moment you're saying, even if it's just for that moment to let it burn just a few more minutes or another day is it gives you freedom. It gives you poise to be able to process properly, whether it's an actual issue if you're traveling in a way with your family or a decision that's on an everyday basis. Yeah. And then I'm either Oh, it helps keep things in perspective too. Right? Is it really a fire?
Is this an early on when we started the company, right, every negative Google review was a fire. And we learned very quickly that Chaz was not good for anybody Kings reactive. And there's a The star review. Call that customer up, figure out what happened, and how do we get that taken down, or whatever. Call a bunch of other customers and get them to bury that review. And Chaz was the way that we reacted to that 5 years ago and just learning, hey. You're not gonna be able to please everyone.
That's not a fire anymore. That's a cost of doing business. Yeah. Understand. And I think to your point, it's, I guess, there's other people who in our organizations, sometimes Chaz feel like it's a fire, then they're gonna bring it to the table like it's a fire. Yep. And for a small business and for a small business owner. Sure. I get that. My wife owns a wedding coordinating company with fancy events in Milwaukee and Chicago.
And it's and she's a owner operator, sole proprietor, and so for her, very small business still. Very passionate about reviews. And so she would consider that a fire where they're at right now in their business likes their evolution. But, right, we Sun Badger is obviously grown to know that's not a huge priority. Also, having partners is big. I've benefited from the fact that I've had some amazing, talented, and and hardworking people that were with me from the very beginning to lean on.
I know it's a lot harder to grow and scale your business when you're doing it by yourself. The. So anybody out there who is struggling, right, they might wanna look short plus 1. Yeah. They could find it. I think I think it's interesting that you bring that up because you don't really hear a bunch of people talking about that. In fact, usually what you hear in the talk is stay away from partnership, stay away from family, stay away from Chaz.
But I can't I can't tell you how, for sure, 7 figure, but a lot of 8 figure and a lot of even 9 figure guys. They're like, yeah, it's all I do is joint ventures, or all I do is partnerships or We roll up stuff Gathering then we sell it or whatever. It's Yep. Collaboration is a whole another level of mindset. Yeah. There's yeah. People are powerful together. Right? And I'm big on on partnerships and leveraging other people's experience and knowledge in areas that I don't have it.
And we spoke at lengths earlier about The are just some things that you're not gonna be qualified to do. Don't it doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter if you're Elon Musk or or you're Trevor Summer, you know, there's gonna be things that you're that's somebody else is gonna do better. And if you're willing to bring somebody on and and partner with them and, you know, navigate some of the friction that will come with that. Yeah. You're gonna be better off for it. Yep. 100%. I love it.
Alright. I wanna come at you a little different angle here with the speed round questions. The hesitate to take your entire business. This Lightning. The lightning round. Okay. The lightning round. Yeah. Yeah. The speed round. I want you to take this entire business. I want you to dwindle it down for me. To The trackable metric. If you can only pick 1 to track forever and ever, what would it be? 1 trackable metric. I would say enthusiasm. The, okay. Metric.
And it's not really trackable from a numbers standpoint. Right? It's an intangible, but, yeah, and busy Chaz for us is Probably the number one. That would be enthusiasm about the industry. In general, it would be enthusiasm from our customers, which right now in the solar industry is at the top. Everybody's excited about solar. Excitement and enthusiasm makes everything so much easier, so much more fun. You come to work. Totally. You're happy to be at work. Enthusiasm in our employees.
So Yeah. My metric is enthusiasm, and a lot of what I do too is I travel around to our different offices, and I try to I try to gauge the enthusiasm. The positivity there by interacting with the staff, listening to the conversations that they're having. If people are complaining about their job, then I'm doing something wrong. As president. Right?
If people are pumped about what they're doing and they're laughing and they're joking around and things like that, and that's a huge indicator to me that I'm doing something right. Yeah. I love that. Love how it trickles down into all areas. Client team, even you. You, your family, like, all that trickles into the personal life as well, I would assume. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm enthusiastic. And like I said, I got a white that's an entrepreneur too, so that's a interesting dynamic.
We stopped giving each other business advice about 4 years ago. So I topped the table Chaz did. Their topic. And that's okay. That's okay. And you Totally okay. Yeah. Yeah. Learning my lesson on that one. Yeah. Yeah. I think that there my wife doesn't have a business, but I still, unfortunately, make a mistake of meddling in certain lanes that she owns. Clearly, she owns this lane of our life. Yeah. And and I just need to remember not to. McAlligator.
Yeah. It's not a delegating when you're married. It's more, the the surrender aspect. A surrender, partnership. Yeah. The are maybe some better, better words. I wanna know a book that you'd recommend specifically for a 6 figure business owner who's listening today They're not at 45,000,000. They're trying to scale. They're trying to figure it out. Man, you're gonna you're gonna get me here because I just do I do not read. What are you listening? You got podcasts? What what do you Yeah.
I guess for me, less less about media like books or podcasts and more about mental and physical well-being. I I if I can go that route with it, please. Yeah. For me, that's huge in my professional life is is keeping myself healthy in my mind and my body. So that means, obviously, exercise and diet is big.
We try to practice some meditation at our home, but in the mornings and in the evenings Kings disconnecting from work can't speak highly enough about that practice, having a hard stop And, again, being a a dual business owner household, it was really easy for us to just work all the time. And What I found is when you're grinding like that all the time, what you're producing is actually not as good as it is when you take some time to disconnect every day and you come back fresh.
So those would be the those would be the practices that I would preach. Love that. What's your thought on networking or even masterminding with other entrepreneurs? Yeah. Great idea. The more people you could talk to, the better. I'm I love LinkedIn. Most of the time, people are just trying to sell me leads and shit like that and whatever that happens. But every once in a while, there's a good nugget There's a good connection on there.
I take meetings all the time with with people that that hit me up on LinkedIn or other platforms like Chaz. Just to hear what they have to say, to hear what they've got going on. Sure. Definitely networking within your own industry is important, but also connecting with people in other verticals. And looking for opportunities The, or, hey. If this is working for a enterprise software, company. Hey. Maybe there's something that can I can apply to my business? Yep. Yep. That's huge.
Okay. I've got an operational question for you. If you only had 1 hour each week to work on your business, what would you do in that 1 hour I could do that. I would find within that hour the best and most efficient way to make my staff if I had 1 hour. Yep. If I had 1 hour, because, again, happy employees and a half The gonna are gonna run a better company. Yeah. That's right. Alright. I got my last question here for you, Trevor. Are you ready? Hey. Yep. If you lost it all, What would you do?
I would start over again. Just like that? Just that, man. Start over. Yep. If if I lost it all, start another company, if that was what I wanted to do. And I love doing it. I I love running a company and growing a company. So, yeah, I would and I would try to learn from my mistakes. What made me lose it before, but I like how you said, try. Sometimes, Sometimes we're we gotta go to the school of hard knocks. That's right.
They they gotta make a I've made the same mistake a number of times, and I'd say this is the last time. Not gonna do that again. And the maybe the the scenario comes up again and maybe I don't remember or maybe I talk myself into that trying that solution again and Yep. Yeah. It happens to all of us, actually. Hey. We kick ourselves, but I think eventually, like you said, we try to, be intentional about Yep. Paying attention to those mistakes and being able to correct the future.
Okay. You've been incredible. We've just I can I now understand from a verbal perspective how your emails go every week because and we've just been, boom, right through this show? I love it. Knock The out. Hard hitting untapped for sure. How can the listener connect with you? Is LinkedIn the best way? You gotta hope to suggest The reach out to Trevor Summer on LinkedIn? Connect with me there. We've got our website sunbadger.com.
If you if you're in the Midwest, then you wanna learn about solar energy. If you want if you wanna just talk business or network, then, yeah, LinkedIn is probably the easiest way. I'm pretty responsive on there to a connection requests, and I respond to direct messages every day. That's great. You've been sensational here today. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's been a lot fun.
Of course, funny story on some of the other examples that you've gotten, hold of people or maybe not real But I'm glad that you know that I'm real now. You're real. Yeah. I'm real. And I'm happy to be on Gathering the Kings podcast. That's awesome. Trevor, you've been, incredible again. Blessings to you. You're family, your business is. Thank you. And and I'll let you get your hand too. Thanks for being here. Great.
Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself Kings it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple businesses and multiple different industries, and now interviewing over 2 or 300 other very successful 7, 8, and 9 figure business owners is that it's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs. In fact, we are putting together 1000 Kings, specifically who are grateful, but not done.
We're intentionally assembling Kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe Chaz in The suit of excellence in those areas Chaz it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy. So if that relates and and resonates with you and you know that you need people around you, sharp qualified other very successful business owners. I want you to go to The.
I want you to take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit to 1000 Kings. Talk soon.