On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. One of my mentors sat out with me as golf nutty, actually kinda knew about the concept. And I talked to him. I showed some concepts super nice, super gracious. He just looked at me and smiled. He goes, this is great, but this is really not some place I can go see myself. So that's that's a nice way of saying Your place sucks. Hey. And the webinar. What's up everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe, gathering the king's podcast. We are back.
On the King stage here, Billy Brown is joining me here today. My brother-up, LA. How are we doing? Bandwidth Fantastic. Yes. So excited to be here. So excited to actually have time together with the Philip King and Yeah. I I was I'm I'm ready, man. Let's go. That's good, man. Well, so I want to give you some opportunity here to share your story, but I can already tell. I'm gonna just give this to the listener real quick. This is gonna be a electrifying conversation.
Billy and I, even just in the last five minutes, have been, like, sparring about just great business stuff. And I'm like, okay. Let me hit the recording button. So this is gonna be a really fun conversation. Billy, tell us what kind of business that you have first. Well, I I'm one of those unicorns I've done a little bit of everything. And if you when you hear my story, you're like, that is, like, the most ADD thing I've ever heard until you actually hear the story.
And you'll see the alignment of everything that that I've done Alright. Wait. Let's see if everyone's, like, watch the the movie, a slumdog millionaire. You know, at the very end, everything lines up at the end going, oh my gosh, his entire life lined out to this point, and that's what I'm seeing now. So that's the the hope I wanna give and the encouragement we give with your listeners. So my original background, I should phone calls, and that led into being broke. And very broken.
And and almost a re try to reemerge us on the scene in 2008, and you will have 2008. And then my I got into mortgages, residence mortgages, which led me into absolute depression and led me to getting into commercial lending. Tea now teaching Chaz, all that. It's kinda what most people know me for in the real estate world is is being a very creative lender and also syndicator. So we syndicated an apartment complex and office complex.
And then I get this crazy idea for the golf sanctuary, which is everything that you could possibly imagine as far as life and lima all Chaz. We'll go into that detail soon, but you actually I created an end in my life instead of then, and we'll give that a second. But Wow. It's it's pretty amazing what's what happens when you take those steps. And we did us all that in the middle of COVID. Wow. There you just you just led us to a huge cliff. And then left us there.
And so I wanna unpack some of this and obviously give you a chance to tell a story, but tell us what the gulf sanctuary is. Does what do you do how can people do work with you? Like, what do you got? What do you got? So the all things for you I tell people this all the time, so if you walk in the Wolfe sanctuary, and all you see is golf, you completely miss what we did.
So the golf sanctuary is a a community, so we create community for a fluid business leaders and our families, around an elevated culinary experience, and a game we mostly love. Wow. I love that. Wolfe is just the common language. Yeah. It's about community and dive in deeper community. And then also through that creating, if you heard the words of the term, parallel polys Yes. Perilous society. We all do. We you do masterminds. I've done masterminds. I've created a mastermind.
I've been in several. The entire idea of that mastermind and Chaz alignment of white minded men, leaders, women, leaders, is there. So now we have a a a group of community of everything we possibly need in one building, one membership. And then as we grow different locations, it's all there. So the things that get that alignment. I'm not gonna share the whole thing right now or at the back, but the whole alignment, we have these little silos of our lives.
We think that if we're doing one, we're taking away from the other one. If I'm playing golf, I'm taking away from my family. That's right. If I'm with my family, I'm taking away from my business. If I'm business, I'm taking away from my spiritual relationship. It is it's in all that. And it wasn't until I aligned everything. It's for a different direction. And said, oh my gosh. This is how you gonna do it. Yeah. Everything fell in a place where, like, it's all right there.
So what I'm doing one, I'm doing the other and and glorifying everything else. Yeah. It's a way to the Allstate story. Everybody can participate in that as far as the community. Yeah. I like you said, we'll get more into maybe the the depths of Chaz, but what you're talking about is huge.
And it's what I call work life obsession, and we're gonna get to some some of these questions that I have asked 100100 of entrepreneurs, but given your background, I already know we're gonna be in alignment, but I'm gonna be curious to see what language that you use. And so the first question that I ask every guest is always there why, but really the kind of the way I position it is the burning desire.
And so you've kinda given us this, like, quick snapshot of I've been involved with a lot of things that what I'm doing now is maybe like a culmination of of purpose and this and Chaz, and it brings people together and it's like all these things. But for you, what's the burning desire for Billy? Like, what what is the bigger picture? Why are you doing this? Why are doing life. Man, I tell you what, I'm gonna give you the shallow answer, and then I wanna give you the bigger answer.
So the shallow answer is I didn't because I wanted to play more golf. Yeah. Really? Quite honestly, I wanted to play more golf than I do with guilty battle. We coined this term about golf guilt, and they just play professional golf. Used to play four or five times a week, and then I went down to four or five times a month and then four or five times a year and then nothing.
And then when that is your passion and that gives you your community and it's taken away because of guilt, family, all that, you left like a shallow of a man. Billy, you gave us the the shallow answer, but but what's the not so shallow answer? I know. The Shell Ash is more Wolfe, but, hey. I mean, everybody's got that passion, but the the the the end up to answer was, you know, we're in Nashville. Nashville songwriters, she's just thinking about the muse.
When a muse strikes, and you get that download from an infinite intelligence from god about a a song you just stop. Wolfe, this is something that's been, like, dropping on me for Oh, I don't know, probably 6 or 7 years. I kept on coming back to it and modeling all that. Long story short, I mean, every step I took brought me five steps closer. And all of a sudden, it's like, everyone I talked to about this idea had that same idea, but didn't take the steps.
Wow. Because I took the steps Amazing things happen. So the the big answer is, I mean, I'm just I'm telling you right now, this is a divine moment and divine calling in a divine movement of what Wolfe just created. Yeah. Because the things Chaz I'll share, you know, through podcasts, like, the things that have happened to get the Wolfe tanks where they were. It's like, you couldn't have scripted this thing.
Yeah. I mean, you could have scripted, like, all the things that have happened, Chaz were you thought were crap that end up being, oh my gosh, that cleared the path. Right? That actually cleared the path for us to go make this thing happen and Chaz actually set us apart. So it's it truly is a divine calling. Again, there's a reason why we call it the sanctuary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I had a a domain register before it kinda pot this back. Yeah. Call speak easy, which is more bar model.
And then when I lost that one, you know, the word, again, a download that got tapped It's not a it's not a speak easy. It's a sanctuary. Yeah. We need a sanctuary, especially as leaders, executives, and all that. Now if for is for ourselves. Yeah. Well, just from what I know of, state easy and sanctuary. Right? Like, let's just go into this for a half second because I think it's super applicable.
2 entrepreneurs everywhere, and it bases off of what you already said about kind of like everything working together in life, and I reference work life balance. For for gathering the Kings has really been, like, I got my family mastermind shirt on today. We just got back from Bermuda because it's about vacations. It's about vacationing with other awesome people like Billie and his family. It's about marriage. It's about parenting.
We did sessions on the actual brewed Chaz the island in Bermuda about parenting marriage and how the old ties into business. I was like, okay. So I see I see what I'm doing. I see what you're doing, but for the listener, Really, what you're talking about is this wholesome perspective because as entrepreneurs, there is no off switch. Right?
And it's not like I can just go down to the speak easy, which is secretive, and it's over here, whether it's my business that I treat like this, or whether that's my family Chaz I treat like this. It's over here. It's down down in a cellar. Nobody knows about it. It's dark and quiet and and, secret it, right, as opposed to when you think of a sanctuary, you think of bright lights and big windows. And and, like, we this is how we do life, and this is part of who I am, my identity, my my belief.
Right? So speak to some of this because I think we're we're putting some magical stuff here. So you can get back to the sanctuary. It wasn't my word. Mean, it it came to me. It's a complete downward. So think about it, especially in middle of COVID. You know, I had to organize for 7 years, maybe 8 years, maybe 9 years. I can't remember. Like, it all runs together.
Way pre 2019. Brooke tried to model it out, and my background is is one thing trying to financially model the thing out makes it profitable. And it didn't hit me until 2019 in a opioid co op from my shoulder surgery that this is it. It made all sense. Yeah. And I modeled it out. It made sense. But, yeah, the the whole idea there, especially in the middle of COVID, as an entrepreneur, you're missing a place to go exhale. Yep. Thinking Chaz masterminds.
Like, you're around your people that are so small and intimate and and just Chaz a it's an investment. It's pricey. Same thing about why people join country clubs, but they can't. They need they need a common language. Yeah. For you and I, it's real estate, entrepreneurship. Right. For others, it could be something else. But to get that business community, that family being together, you needed a bigger common language called golf and food.
And not just any kind of food and not just any kind of gall, like, you we elevated it because that's what we wanted to attract. So that whole idea, be able to check out your celebrity status Now tell this, like, when you when you come, like, all sanctuary, you may be Chaz out here in podcast land on your high 5 and up on stage being Rahron and all that.
When you walk in the Wolfe tanks where you just Chaz, and you Chaz hang out with just Billy and just Eddie and just, right, Brian and just you know, we're just real. Yeah. And you're able to exhale and go, man, I could just check it out the door. I just I have my safe space. Yeah. And I can bring my family here And I can do business here if I choose. I can do life here what I was gonna choose, but it is a truly sanctuary.
And when you walk into that place and Eric, if the subject, what location we open, I'm very adamant about when you walk in, you feel like you get a big hug from an old friend. Yeah. You just have that, like, this is what I've been missing. This is what I've been missing. Yeah. There's a uniqueness. It's not just community. Yes. That's a big part of it, actually, for both of us, but it's another level. It's intentionality. It's authenticity.
It's, you know, creating a space that, creates or gives way for emotion for people who aren't always allowed to. And and I put myself in that category. I'm not a I'm a very emotional person, but in the traditional 6, but what I know is that it's lonely. The top, we've all heard that. What I'd know is that most entrepreneurs, most meeting all create themselves an island very naturally, actually, because They're building a business. They're not like anybody else in their world.
My church buddies aren't like me. My high school buddies aren't like me. My cell in the blank. And so they're, therefore, I'm different. I can't share things with my team at least all of them. I can't share all of them with my wife. Like, there is a certain island that gets built. And so when you say sanctuary or when you say a piece or when you say, like, deep breath Excel. That's real. It's real. Yeah. You let the guard down. And I I learned some of this.
Again, the whole thing, it would I touched on, you know, slumdog millionaire and all that. The whole thing I learned from this, my other background in Oklahoma is wrestling. Oklahoma State University wrestling is, you know, was until recently a a Metcalfe for wrestling. I grew up inside the wrestling room. I actually interned at USA rusting and Colorado Springs. So I did say at Chaz time, I was like, oh, the first from first golfer actually on the Olympic site. So What? What? Olympics?
But I entered at wrestling, but my peer group was wrestlers in Olympic athletes and seeing their workout. They can have, you know, how many gold medals I wore on my own neck from friends that have won gold medals. And you know what their common language is when they go and do stuff to go relax? What? They fish and they golf.
Yeah. And their buddies, they don't wanna be around other they need to be around other people, but, like, they're gonna go do that with other peer groups of something different other than wrestling and working out, oh, I'm making a talk about this, but they're actively doing something else. That's why you get invited to go play Wolfe. And it's absolutely, you know, if you play, it's good, but, like, it's I mean, it's a I hit index of, I don't know, a 100 a day. Yeah. And I don't have 6 hours.
And if you're awful golfers, I'm not gonna take my golf course. It's just gonna kick your ass. It's a hard golf course. You know, after 6 hours and you know, by the third hole, you're miserable. And I can't raise money for it because you're miserable. You're hot, you're sweaty, and all that. I was like, yeah. You can't do it. But we wanna have Chaz community. You know, you wanna have something go, like, comma, like, first is just sitting across from each other having a lunch. Right?
Dear god, am I, don't invite me on a lunch. Please don't. I hate I hate lunches. I hate lunch meetings. Let's get active. You know, we're both active guys. Let's get active. Because when you do something with somebody That's right. You'd share an experience. You're forever bonded. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost those exact words. We just did an in person event in Georgia. And, you know, we had probably 30 entrepreneurs and some houses were there as well.
And one of the parts of the recap video that we had made. 1 of the entrepreneurs is like, yeah. We we went on, like, a six mile hike and we did all these saves, but you're talking about being active. And how we bonded over the experience.
And so each one of us experienced the hike differently, not only just the actual hike or the other activities that we're doing, But inside of that, we had awesome discussion points and really create some awesome moments of, like, people really thinking and sharing. And so people experience those things in different ways, and then to be able to share it, it was almost like what you just said in in, like, verbatim and Turks.
Tell me just for a half second because what we're talking about might, to the listener, feel a little bit woo, right, a little bit fru fruit. I mean, right? Because, like, we're Yeah. We're going there. And, like, charge the hell, and and I'm definitely down. Like, I I get popped up when I think about, like, that part of being a king. Right? But the emotional intelligence of a king is also just as important. And what that's really what we're talking about.
Know the emotional intelligence of, like, being self aware and knowing what we need in in a in a x tale, but also surrounding ourselves with other people that value the same thing. So For that person listening right now, that's feeling like having an experience together at a Wolfe sanctuary or on a hike. Yeah. How is that beneficial to me as an entrepreneur? It is. I mean, it is the essence of what it means to be in community because the gray book says where there's 2, there I am.
Chaz sharing that spiritual experience, you cannot be on an island. I actually have myself for a long, long time. Gone. You know, it's what you do. You're there to kick in one's ass. Right. So you're not there to go be a friend. Like, that's not what life's about. It's meant to be shared, and the stuff that you know and the stuff I know together, it's not a 1+1 equals 2. It's 1+1 equals 1,000,000. Yeah. Because you could share, we'll say one thing.
I give you example, like, a friend that's in Memphis. And she texted me and said there's tornado went through and there's she's a single Wolfe. Didn't know how to go handles some of the stuff and just keep giving some advice going, well, think about this. Now my my thought didn't solve her problem, but it spurred a question. That's right. In her that she's able to ask another question Chaz led her to to the solution. Yeah. One thing and saved her probably $15,000. Right there.
It's not because I'm, like, a genius business. I listened to my guy and I shared it, and I was open about it. Same thing. I mean, these those hikes and experiences, it is for you, but it's not for you. Yeah. It's for the collective from it's for the collective. It is for the the greater good because if I help you, you help your tribe. Yeah. That's right. And my little help to your tribe means, like, oh my gosh. That means the world to me because I gave a little bit of me.
I can't change the world, but I can change a little bit. Yeah. I can't impact everyone, but I can pack one person who may be able to pack others who may be Wolfe to pack others. That ripple effect. Yeah. Yeah. And stop blaming on island. Yeah. The community piece and the ripple effect are real, especially as not for sure, listening right now, they're thinking that maybe they haven't built a big business yet. Maybe they have maybe they got a couple $100,000,000 business, and they're on an island.
The reality of it is is that that person who's on an island doesn't realize the action impact that they have Yes. Of course, their team and their family. Those are big. Don't get me wrong. But the impact that can be had on the collective coming to Wolfe sanctuary, joining a mastermind group like Gannon of the Kings or being in a local community, helping your, you know, nonprofit of choice. Like, All of those things are what a king does because they realize the ripple effect.
And it's, like, just one little afternoon working out a house through Habitat. For humanity or doing push ups like we're gonna do in July, 1776 push ups for the wounded warrior, you know, like, All of these things that we do because we have the influence and impact. One person, and then another, and then another, and then another. And I think we just disregard or maybe we don't fully realize what that input really is or the value of the input. Would you agree?
There's not anyone that Chaz I've met that diminishes their own influence. I do it all the time. Yeah. I mean, we we've we as athletes have been trained to be the dumbest people in the room. In entrepreneurs. If you're always the dumbest person who is sick of knowledge, and therefore, like, we tend to feel like we're the dumbest person in every room because we're designed to be that. Well, that every room we go into, it levels us up. That's right.
Well, we have a lot of experience and a lot of knowledge through that to be shared, and I had to push myself all the time. So the hardest thing and the first thing you learn in artificial intelligence is, you know, your value is value, not based on what you think. Yeah. Do you share, especially you're tapped into that WUU stuff? Like, what if you listen and just trust that the words you're gonna say is gonna be impactful. They will land and be impactful. Yeah. It's not up to you.
It'd be how they are. It's like, no seeds will land. It may not take root in, but, like, if you speak life, that's right. It's it's it's amazing what happens and just gotta be open to that because Yeah. What can be used after the greater good? Yeah. Well, to your point, there'll be good or bad seats. Right? There'll be a good impacts or bad impact. 1 or the other, it's really just your choice. You're gonna make an impact one way or the other.
You've said a couple of things that lead me to believe that we share commonality here. You've used the phrase infinite intelligence and you've used a you didn't say this, but you basically shared the definition in your community. Example, they're referring her onto it at the thought of master mining, all from Napoleon Hills thinking we're rich. And it's an agitation of mind. It's a it's a download, all of these things. And so Tell us, is that is that a book that you've rented?
Is that is this principal, the 13 principal, and the 31 failures that you live by? Like, give us some more here. So every January, everything is correct. And sometimes I start in December. Every January, December, I I I read it. And a half for the last, by 5 years, maybe 6 years just to go through it because it spurs things. Yeah. It really spurs and every time I read it, like, I'll I see something new. I actually have my dad's copy from the early 19 sixties.
Wow. And, of course, Now that I'm almost fifty, like, the the print's too small, so someone actually got me at the large brands for for Christmas. So it was a it was a great gift. And I was like, this is awesome. Like, you know, it's, like, four words per page. That's good. I really don't. I don't know if you've I don't know if you've held them outside next to each other. They changed it. They did. Yes. I I I had them side by side.
So, like, some stuff Chaz, like, was that actually in Reginald 6 or not? Some stuff, is materialistic. Some stuff isn't Yeah. To to overall, but, I mean, the whole idea of infinite intelligence, you know, and dialing our radio frequencies. And you gotta remember, like, when that book was read, and we go to, sorry, this path about about Napoleon Hill.
And when that book was read, like, radio waves were just coming out, stuff he's talking about now, like, a 100 years later, like, we're doing this now. Right. We're communicating on a level through electricity. Right. Across the Globe. Yeah. Face to face. Else. And then they're talking about that back then, and they just stick they count that as crazy. The other book was, I don't know if you read this one outwitting the devil. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a favorite.
For those that have not read that one yet, and this may struggle with a little bit of mental health issues. Read that one. That will lift your lid massively. When you go read through that thing. And that's that is just as meaty and steak y as as the grower rich. Yeah. I actually had a had a pline of mine this morning texted me and asked, if I had heard of that book and that it, if I had suggested he'd read it and I said, actually, I love the book.
It's one of my favorites, but I knew how many times he's read thinking Rich. I think it's maybe only once or twice. And so I actually said, don't don't read that one yet. Go back to take and go over it and read that one again. And and so like you, I I read it every September. Actually, this year, I've read it a couple times already. Just because I'm in that season of, like, okay. I'm really getting things that are trying to for peace of work. What would be your takeaway?
I mean, you've given us several already. For the person listening right now that's heard about it never read it or read it once, like I did the very first time, 10 or 12 years ago, and was like, What in the world is this? And I kinda, like, disregarded it for a few years. What would you say to that person? So I actually kinda found my own little system formula for achieving what I want.
Through that and through a little bit of some some master mining stuff and and some, you know, re I should Shankar, I just retched watch the secret first time in my life, like, 6 months ago. Sure. I'm I'm in a book with John Asura Af. I know I the law of attraction, but never watched it. And then watch the movie that kinda goes along with it. I was like, oh my gosh. This is so cool. So, anyway, I'll I'll boil this down to, like, the 3 things that I do to negotiate with my goal.
So So one is a vision board, and you gotta have it very simple. You can't have it cluttered. Yeah. And he and I put her on top of my TV. Now my daughter's 6 and moves it to go watch Netflix. But I have my vision board there for Chaz. And, just keep, like, four areas that are really important to me. Everything else goes falls in place with my vision board, but just kinda that attraction to that seeing myself in there. Yeah. And the second one is the auto suggestion.
So every morning before I go work out, I'll I'll read my affirmations and and all that. Speaking, and I grew up at a household where words did not matter, especially as Chaz, as a whole or subject, but our words are powerful. Yeah. They're the words we say and the words we don't say. Yeah. You know, that's why we deal with there's a big call out there to silence men. Yeah. And when we stay silent, it's awful.
So the silence there, and I was speaking life and others were speaking life in ourselves. That's right. And speed you we need to hear and believe in all that and speaking that out there to to track that. And the third day I actually learned was was pretty pretty amazing. This is it kinda reminds me of, like, golf too. There's a whole bunch like golf psychology books that came out in the nineties that that I read, but I actually put this down Chaz she did this.
That our brain does not know if it actually happened or not. That's right. So I write a letter to myself posted dated 1231 of this, like, this year 2023. Right. Bratitude with the things that I want to accomplish as if they've already happened. Or is it they've been done? Yeah. And that freaks out your brain so bad because, like, wait a minute. This hasn't happened. It's gonna go to work on how it goes happens. It's amazing what what happens when when you do that. So you do decide.
Those three things right there, and it's, you know, it's It's not perfect, but it draws everything to you. The law of attraction's fighting for it. You're just patient. The universe is working crazily on your behalf to go achieve this god's putting your heart. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of complexity or Chaz could come across as complexity in what we're talking about. But boiled down is what you pay attention to tends to happen and and what you look for you tend to find.
And so what What Bill Chaz given to you here as a listener, I wanna encourage you that not only have done these same things for for years years years now. But I've been able to look back. I can find a piece of paper and go, oh my goodness. This was a this was the way I was reading 5 years ago, And all of these, this is like mind blowing to the tee.
And there's a lot of, like, woo around attraction or belief or whenever it's like, look, what you put your mind towards, you then begin to train your subconscious. Your subconscious is what controls all of your daily acts. 95%. And so the way that I walked up the stairs today, the way that I pressed the record button here today with Billy, the way that I sat down in this chair way that I'm sitting right now with my legs for us, like, all of that is subconscious.
But I can't rewire how and why I do those things based on what I feed myself. Necessess that's what Billy's saying. So all the things that you just gave are super practical. I love all of them. We should just do a podcast just on this. And I've Chaz a couple of other guests where we just need to do a need to do a a thing where it's roundtable. Roundtable. Yeah. Yes. I'm down for that.
Yep. I I think that that would be pretty cool, but for the listeners' sake right now, I want them to be able to walk away with practical, which is, look, identifying what you want. And, yes, it can be material. It can be something physical, but it can also be conceptual. Meety, piece in your home or and then visualize what does peace look like?
What does it look like coming into your moment and things be peaceful or quiet or or harmony in between you and your wife or in your children or whatever that looks like. You can have whatever those things are in your heart that, like Italy said, that you could have. It's just a matter of articulating them in enough detail and emotion on a regular basis that your subconscious starts to take action. Emotion is the key part of it. Yeah. It really is. That is the that's the fuel.
Hey. Hey, Charles Wolf here. As many of you know, I have been on an absolute mission to help entrepreneurs from all across the country in many different industries, level up their game and grow their business and intentionally connect with other entrepreneurs. We do that obviously through the podcast, but we also have a peer to peer mastermind group specifically for 7 to 9 figure business owners.
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I wanna know a good decision that you made so you've built wonderful place. Called golf sanctuary. And we've talked about all the benefits and the the just incredible impact that you're having, but I wanna know the good decision practically inside of building it. That's led to you a lot to hear your success. Oh, that's a good question. The good decision. Wow. Is this, I mean, being faithful? I mean, because everyone has ideas. Yeah. I'll tell you this.
And then this is this is where we get a little deeper on it. So I'd like and there's no we'll go as deep as you wanna go, Chaz. But so 2019, things were rocking. Absolutely rocking. I actually left my w two job. He got on my own and had, like, everything lined up due at the lending. Things are looking great. What some masterminds talked about this is is, like, sitting on my heart. And there's, of course, people that are saying what the hell I was talking about. Whatever.
You're talking about lending. We can understand that, but, like, I'll sanction what is that conceptually. I I couldn't really formulate it. But, figuring it out in March of 2020, We had a lunch and learn scheduled. So I had, like, 25 people RSVP early March. That didn't happen. 2 days Yeah. Well, wait. It was actually before all that. So hold on. Yeah. That's fine. So 2 days before, driving home with Tazikis, and we got t boned. So hit my daughter's side. To destroy the car.
Next day was the tornado in East Asheville killed 22 people. And it had I lost 20 people that were gonna come because, like, they had real estate. They had her helping it or whatever. Yeah. It's like, okay. Well, the the people showed up and honored. Like, thank you for coming. Let's just talk through this. It went pretty good. The weekend after that, and their storm came through and took out power and all our food for 4 days. Wow. The week after Chaz, we started a COVID.
Yeah. I was on a podcast And we I had a suspicion that Capital Works were gonna shut down. I texted all my lenders. And as a podcast, virtually, obviously, Chaz like, hey. Is this program I'm talking about still available? Was it yes, yes, yes, just two said no? And I'm in the middle of the podcast. To talk to, you know, 152100 people, and I get a text message to go at Capital Markets to shut down. I'll ask a quarter $1,000,000 in commissions just like that. Wow. And then you know what?
The hell just broke loose after that as and after that, you're like, what what just happened? Yeah. Like, what literally just happened? I have this great, I think they're going great. And then, like, the world just went Yep. And I was married at the time. Well, my then wife and now ex we're still in great terms, but, you know, as we're just sitting here talking, I was getting real and I almost went to a pity party, and, you know, I said, ethics. And I'm going down and going on swinging.
We're going forward with y'all sanctuary. And Chaz like, because it by then, my hunch told me that by the time we got something up and running, we'd be on that backside of this thing where everyone else would pause. Right. You know, I also knew the companies that grew out of the great depression. Yeah. I knew that history from the stuff that we we read in, I think Neurorich and others, like, those seeds. The smallest companies that grew in that and grew roots deep. Right.
Flourished when is time to flourish. Yeah. So we went forward with it. And all of a sudden, everything likely opened up. I mean, it's a faithfulness, a great decision, that faithfulness to take that next step. Was amazing. It was hard as hell. God as hard as hell. Yeah. But we we took the steps and and it's we're even a reorgement. Yeah. That you you gave a great picture there. I don't wanna dissect it too much.
The story kinda did it on its own, but the thing for the listener here is that we all have these moments. And, actually, we have them repeatedly to go in, again and again, all in, actually, not in the And so I appreciate you sharing that. I'm sure that moment was, like, extremely vulnerable. Like you said, it was, like, a little bit of a pity party, and then you kinda just said, you know what? Here's what we're doing.
And if we're going if we're if we're referencing back to thinking about Rich, that was your definiteness of purpose. It was, like, clear Chaz day Boe, I've decided, and that's what the listener can take away from this scenario is that when you've decided something, it it is. Unless you don't believe it. But a lot of times, if you can couple that's where that emotion comes in, you can couple the belief or the emotion with the decision. It just it's just a matter of time.
And so that's that kinda messes the approach you took with. I don't know. I don't think we're gonna take out. I'm gonna build this thing. Hopefully, we're gonna catch the back end of this, which you did. And so a great job of the hush there, but, man, it's not always easy and definitely in that moment where you're just like, we're gonna do this, but I don't have a clue with No. There's that faithfulness. The faith is, like, I I knew. You just know.
I mean, I don't know what what else that you just know? You you have complete faith of Chaz next step was gonna be lied out to me is what it says, you know, like, you for sure. The error rate is you'll make your pass straight. Yeah. Flat. I mean, honestly, like, easy. You know, he'll he'll take the, you know, you just take one step. The next step will reveal to you. That's all we need to get back to the, the stuff we know about chasing dreams and goals, all that.
I'd like to get on one step towards Chaz. And go. And one thing I wanna say about the decision, and let's go back to to my ex as well and give her complete credit for this. She says this often. Is it a thought or is it a decision? Thoughts come and go. Decisions are powerful. Yeah. Wolfe. Will we make that decision? You know, it's amazing how the universe conspires in your favor. Yeah. It's true. Alright. Well, what about a bad decision? Chaz you made, that you could look back on and go, uh-huh.
So there is a kind of reference referencing, like, Robert Kiyosaki. Yeah. He he says there's no there's 3 sides of coin. There's the heads of tails and on top. I mean, there's no there's no good, no bad. Right? You know? So everything works in our favor. So there's there's decisions that I made that did not work out. Yeah. Give us one of those. Actually, here's one right here. You like this one. The decision to start smalls This actually is more applicable.
Real estate investors, search small, start a single family home, work the way of learn, and The bad decision there, which I got caught on was and, again, she called out on was, like, you cannot have the community that you wanna attract your clientele thinking this small. In fact, one of my mentors that really appreciate dearly comes from a fluency. Set out with me. He's golf nutty, actually kinda knew about the concept and I just I talked to him. I showed some concepts.
He goes, super nice, super gracious. He just looked at me and smiled. He goes, this is great, but this is really not some place I can go see myself. Interesting. My friends. Yeah. So that's that's a nice way of saying your place sucks at the level. Keep going. Or keep iterating. Keep iterating. Level up. Yeah. And and then the back to the go bigger, go home type of a a thing, I was like, okay. Message received. So it went back reiterated. Found a different property. Chaz was bigger.
It's big risk. Oh my gosh. He was just like, big way of us to get signed this lease, person guarantee everything. Okay. Here we go. Here it is. We're gonna go do this. Bring on the team. And, yeah, fortunately, I got a CEO. It's fantastic. And I called my cofounder because he took my my concept and elevated a thousand fold. Yeah. That's awesome. The 1st hire. And as we went big and it it's paid off. So some things you do need to prove a concept on, Yeah.
Some things, you just go, this is not our clientele. Right. You are not gonna have a mastermind at Motel 6 to prove it can work. Yep. That's right. Because I my first iteration of this, it was a poor decision was I don't drink much. So I didn't see the value of having alcohol there in the common language of alcohol and great food. I was like, okay. We're just gonna have, like, the basics thinking small. Thinking too small.
Yeah. And got called out on it, and we hired an executive chef that's amazing, brought on some of the most the Grace Connoisseurs of wine and urban and all Chaz. So we had the best of the best. Yeah. Well, we Chaz the best of the best. Guess you attract. Yep. Best. That people appreciate that stuff. That's right. There's quality that you're attaching to big thinking. I mean, our clientele do not think small. Yeah. I gotta call it out on us. Like, you're thinking too small.
Which is, like, goes back to, like, I'm gonna go right in the corner here. I was like, oh my gosh. I've been thinking too small all my life. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to be humble. Right. Right. Like, that's that doesn't serve anyone. Being humble and thinking small does not serve me. Yeah. And does not serve others. There's a gap. There's a gap in mindset before you could get what you just expressed, and you probably were there before you got called out.
And possibly this is where the listener is where, you know, whatever it's the amount of money or the style of business that they do or the product that they offer, currently is big thinking for Chaz. But the reality here is that there's always another level. I'm sure that your original plans were big in comparison to some other people because other people weren't even doing it. Yeah. And so I I my curfew here because we hear them think bigger all the time. Think big. Think bigger. Think bigger.
And it's not necessarily the city down and You can't brush off Chaz, well, I'm already taking risks. I'm already a big thinker. It's like, no, actually. Like, I'm perfectly right now. I'm hearing Billy. And Chaz Wolf is going, yes. Okay. I'm already a pretty big thinker, but I need to dig bigger. And I need to level up again. How what are the areas? How Chaz I think bigger? So it's thinking, you know, that when I was 23 or 24 and made 250,000, like, that was like, Woah.
On top of the Wolfe, but that would be, like, not a good year at the current motor at all. Like, Chaz would be really, really disappointing. And, and so you have to just continue to realize that there's always another level. And so that's where the humility comes in, but it's not humidity from an angle of, like, saying low and thinking small. It's humility going, I know there's more. And I don't know if you're getting around guys like Billy and other guys that you've got around.
They're like, oh, no. I would never go there even. You're like, oh my gosh. What? Yeah. And it's it's that it's that thinking made up big as a a different level, a different iteration and getting granular on it. The the term I use it, because we were working on a struggle with what we've been. We're shipping again for solicitors. Like, we Wolfe filled up in the middle of COVID in 15 months with 0 to 300 memberships over 700 on the roster in 15 months. It's not unheard of.
We pulled off more things than anyone else you've even thought of. And, like, the tomorrow Wolfe and all that, they're talking about this. We've already done what they're talking about twice or three times before they even open up. Wow. Are you done it? So that type of, like, thinking of, like, we're just gonna iterate and do this, but one of the key moment pillow moment was we're strolling memberships this time last year.
Looking at different properties, you expand this thing because I knew where we're going. I know this is a movement because you just know it. It's a movement. The things that have happened, like, this is a movement. We're along the ride and being a good steward of it. Came back from looking at a property and like, meh. This area is like, it's just meh. Came back in. How do you use the bathroom?
And we had 4 or 5 C suite guys from a fortune 50 company, multi, multi, multi national, multi $1,000,000,000 company. In my facility, geeky out, giddy. It is like freaking Disneyland for them. And I walked in. I went, what the hell are we doing? It's like Chaz right there just showed me right there. I now know who we serve and why. Right. But and so find the people that are giddy about you Yeah. That's your avatar.
I mean, we take it up a level as far as, like, what they're or this the problem you're solving for them. Sure. Know why that's important to them? The value that you're you're placing on Chaz, and then may take it to another level. You don't have to go with 0 to a 100,000,000. But just, like, maybe take it, like, 1 or 2 more levels past your comfort zone. They're gonna stretch it just a little bit and think about that.
But knowing who you serve and why, the value you bring for solving their problems. It was key going, Oh my gosh. The problems we Wolfe for these guys Yeah. And their families getting back to that alignment was huge. It was like all of a sudden, They got clear on everything. Oh my gosh. This takes the decision making off my plate. This takes the, like, all the things I have to do far as the client entertainment, the event space, the time away from my family. It's all right here.
Yeah. The decision that I and my team have to go make were gone. Yeah. Now you're gonna focus on solving problems. Yeah. It's huge. Yeah. It's good parlay. My next question here, I wanted I wanted to bring that back up. The work life obsession, this community, this wholesome perspective of, this is how we just do life. Yep. Because you're doing it inside of, you know, a physical location Chaz well as around a, set your value of golf. What does that mean for you first?
And then I want you to be able to express to some of your clients that How have you been able to obsess about family and life Chaz well as work at the same time? And then give that same picture for for your clients inside of your business. Oh, we're all obsessed. I mean, every entrepreneur is obsessed. You know, if you're not obsessed, you're not entrepreneurial. You have to be obsessed. Yeah. But the the obsession of we were especially the good guys.
We wanna serve everybody at high level all at once and can't Chaz hurts. Yeah. I'm trying to be a great family man. Should I be a great dad, great leader, great money raiser, great, you know, protect my health. All Chaz. Damn. It's hard. But she got flints over it, and there's some sacrifices you gotta make. Yeah. But, yeah, that session is is where the alignment comes. You know, you gotta find some things that align align with you.
One of the great things I I saw from a friend was he's a cheap person because he's a real estate investor. You know? Like, that's what you do. He goes, I'm trying to portray myself as a, you know, raise money. And how much are you working at the $25 jam? It's like, what am I doing? It's like my people I need to interact with, that community be with is not here that it's a lifetime. Right.
So we join lifetime, and I don't know how much money he'd raised there because he started getting in community. Yeah. You put aside and said that's a value for me. That's a trade off for me. Like, well, if I need to get there, like, this is not serving me. Right? So those are the things as hard as a good session as, like, questioning the things in your life. Like, is it serving me? In serving my goals, or is it preventing me from achieving that?
Yeah. And and those values and really keeping it simple than the 4 things. Like, I don't you know, when I said to add it in my goals and vision and all that, I actually had a couple of days. Just literally sat down with, like, four or five pieces of paper in my house on my couch and just downloaded everything. I was like, what is important?
The things I wanted to go do that these all goes to do with my daughter, it's still on her, and it just I got these papers everywhere, write it down, come back, rewrite it, define it, and then it comes down to, like, the most important thing. It takes 4 or 5 hours. That's right. Over a couple days, but then it really becomes obsessive over, like, that's clarity. What is the most important things for me is, like, I'm gonna spend my time on some stuff's frivolous. Some stuff's like, oh my gosh.
Like, this provides complete clarity for my life, and now I can assess over that and say no. Darren Hardy has a great a great quote is Chaz he uses for his life. Everything's a no until it's just a hell freaking yes. Yeah. It's good. But you gotta know what your hell freaking yes is. Yep. That's the key. That's right. Yeah. I've used that same language around hiring. I guess I've I've not applied it to life.
Although, what you've talked about as far as does it serve me in those some of the same words that I use. And if it doesn't, then it's just an absolute no, basically. But in order to know that it's an absolute no, Or then it's a no yes. You gotta know what it is. What is it that you want? What is it that you're going towards? And and then you Chaz determine, does it serve me? And then is a yes or no. Billy, I have one last question here for you.
I wanna know if you Chaz the opportunity to reach back at a time and whisper in that younger Billy's ear. What Wolfe you say? We do not have that's a whole episode right there, man. Personal intelligence? Man, there's some deep places I can go on this one. Belief Chaz one. Yeah. What would you say? Just just the word belief, or what would you give a would you give some structure to that? What would you say?
You know, this is a tough one because I Chaz literally go down a rabbit because I've been thinking about this a lot of the the the lies that I embraced growing up. Yeah. And that may be one of the things is, like, the things that don't embrace the lies. Yeah. Do not embrace the lies. Do not do not And that word embrace, like, you bring into yourself other people's lives from a church community from people that I don't know where they are now, but they've been having so much weight on my life.
Right. Chaz I took in their beliefs and their their beliefs were mine for many, many, many years and decades. And that scared me and kept me from serving others and achieve my greatness. Yeah. And it's still I'm just now getting out of that. So that's, like, don't embrace the lies. So know what truth is, know what your truth is, know the truth about the value you bring, even though you don't think that you're being there is, like, it's all gonna work out.
Yeah. I can tell from your answer there that you're right. We could probably go a little ways, but appreciate the pretty clear answer. I think that that one word belief is really what keeps people. And I even told you that before I hit the record button here. I wanna transfer courage. Encourage and belief are are very similar in that way where it's like, I want the listener to hear what you just said and go, okay.
What are those things that I believe maybe I don't really believe, but the but they're on me. And I'm living underneath that belief simply just because I have it clarified what it is that I actually believe. And so those are those are deep those are deep work conversations and appreciate your ignition to the listener to go explore the things. How can we find you? So number 1, Where are you located? Physically, maybe somebody's listening who wants to come visit or maybe they're in the area.
They wanna become a member. And then also, how can we connect with you as an entrepreneur? Yeah. So I'm actually in Nashville, Tennessee. We got a little bit going on here. 2 services countries moving here because it's pretty cool, cool place. I just have a website that kinda is an aggregator of everything that I've got to connect with me. It's Billy Brown dot me, and they can learn about my lending company and learn about the All Saintsks. We're in Mason Lake the podcast on there and all that.
That's the places like a fill out a form. We can talk about what do you wanna go be to do and call sanctuary, whatever. Golfsinks rewind. If you're gonna shoot golfer in a an offer in this area or it's the golfsinksre.com, and we are growing nationwide. We just released a big capital raise. So maybe come to say, dare you. That's awesome. Well, you've been incredible. Thank you for giving just straight experience and knowledge and and raw emotion. We appreciate the story and and insight.
We wish you nothing, but blessing and success and all the things that you have your hand to. It sounds like you're already pretty set determined, so we already know how it's gonna turn out. It's amazing. I really appreciate the conversation, and I know this is not the last one we're gonna have. That's right. Absolutely. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away.
More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself, doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself. What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple business and multiple different industries and now interviewing over 2 or 300 other very successful 7, 8, and 9 figure business owners is that It's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs.
In fact, we are putting together 1 1000 kings, specifically who are grateful, but not done. We're intentionally assembling kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe Chaz in the pursuit of excellence in those areas, that it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy.
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