On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. And I had a deal that was gonna fall apart and he, like, pulled it through. It'd be impossible. One on this Facebook page, I found out Chaz, you know, he was in golf and you have about a 4 150 hour golf bag and then got, like, 300 hours of golf balls and hit them all personalized with, like, deal closure or something. When people deliver or if you wanna get into somebody's attention, find out what they're into.
Give us something thoughtful put some money into it and reach out to make yourself vulnerable. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe, gathering the Kings podcast, Today, I've got Jack Patrick on the king stage, man. My brother, how are you? I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. You know, I almost felt like I was in, like, a MMA scenario there for a second. We were kinda getting fired up a a few minutes to go off stage, and so here I am, like, introducing you.
Like, we're gonna fight or something. That's awesome. What kind of business do you have, Jack? Oh, I've got a few different, but the main thing I do is real estate. So I start off many years ago as a firefighter kermitic, read the book, rich Ed, poor dad, get a shooting inspired. Nothing about how still in construction, management, rentals, Right. When on eBay and the most specifically Amazon, I purchased every book, how to build a house, how to do GC, how to wire house, how to, like, rollouts.
So, basically, you know, I I came from a point where, you know, just had a high school education, but I had a lot a lot of dryness and determination, persistence, and resourcefulness. I didn't have the direction where to aim that after once I came across their book, it was like light bulb went on. So I became interested in real estate. I started building custom homes. I did that up until 2008 when the market blew up with all the mortgage meltdowns.
Yeah. So at that point, El Still Fireman is looking for where's the opportunity at. And at that time, it wasn't buying distressed single family houses. So in my market, which is Cleveland, Ohio, we were buying houses initially at $60,000, which has half of what they used to they used to be 120. I'm like, great. You know, we're buying them at a 50% discount. And the market just fell out to where we're buying them at $4000 a So we spent, like, 13 years just buying this house up.
They were destroyed as you can imagine. Yeah. But we would fully rebuild them rent them out. We have very minimal maintenance calls or requests. We had the nicest place to lock. We had equity, so it made sense. Yeah. RobAP 13 years got in intrigued with multi family apartments, transitioned. Spend about a year learning about Chaz. Again, books, courses, events, paid for some 1 or 1 mentoring. Really got geared up for that.
I left the art department in 15 years, which is It's pretty rare that that happens. Most people Yeah. Big deal. They'll go career there, and it's a great career, but, you know, I just Somebody said in a mastermind, Josh Kent, well, a buddy of mine had mentioned mine. He said, we think of our job as it's a life jacket when it's really anchor around her neck holding us back.
Interesting. You know, I just I I thought about it more, and I didn't wanna be at a typical retirement age look back and have the regret of what would life look like if I would have done it. And I didn't want that to be done. So when I left the fire department, I left my pension, health care, and I was ten years too old to ever get rehired. So I literally burned the road turned it all the way.
Yes. Yes. And then jumped into another mastermind, which was, again, I lost my income, and I jumped into a mastermind, which is half of the income I made is a fire. So it was like another, you know, pretty big step. I got around a lot more people with bigger mindsets, bigger ideas, thoughts Holy. Eager action. And then built up into that 4 year period about a 700 unit multifamily apartment portfolio.
And then about a year and a half ago, I I reconnected with 2 partners that I have down in Florida, and we're building homes down in Florida right now as well. So I've got 50 homes under construction And then we have another 50 homes that were plus getting permanent. So real estate is my main thing. I do have enough business with my Wolfe. Then I got some other things going on. But real estate is is the foundation core piece of what I do. Well, first off, I love real estate.
We've talked about that on the show many times. I love the creativity inside of real estate because when you read rich dad poor dad, you started building homes. When I read rich dad poor dad, I did not start building homes. And that's the power of of the creativity of business and, of course, real estate. Like, we can read the same book, get the same success principle, and then go apply it in completely different ways.
It literally is the backbone of gathering the Kings because even whether it's the podcast interviewing lots of different people, or even in the mastermind groups, it's like, man, we're all in different industries. But the reality of it is there's a lot of similarities. It's the same success principles. It's the same struggles. And, when we can get together to talk about them like we are here today, we bring light to those situations, solutions, you know, the whole deal. I love it.
Okay. So we've got a lot to talk about since you've got a lot going on, but I'm gonna try to guide us through a little bit of a story here. And you you gave us a little bit of kinda how it happened, but what I wanna know is, like, you actually, in in the fire department, fire firefighting Wolfe. There's a lot of people who will stick with that and then do the side jobs. I've got current friends that do that.
Sure. What for you clicked where it's like, I have to burn the bridge or I have to move on, and I'll kinda take that as, like, the beginning for you, like, when you just, like, did it. What was that? The biggest thing was changing the people that run audience of people. You know, that's, you know, there's that famous saying that you're, you know, look at the four people around you and that's who you're gonna become.
And I had to change my influence and circle because the people Chaz I grew up with, they were friends with, and, you know, a lot of the guys in the fire department and elsewhere. They're just influences there's a lot of people that just wanna hold us back. Maybe not intention.
Maybe they're just, you know, they're just wired that all we see is the negativity or all they see spare or they know of their friends and uncle and certain boyfriend that had a property lost money, like, what the story is, but it's It just really became Chaz it started connecting with other people and and a lot of personal developments. So I was involved in an MLL company.
We never made a but when I did make with it was a lot of mindset shifts in in a lot of books and a lot of personal development. So Totally. All of that was just various various puzzle pieces that it kept on getting put together. It kept on redefining me. It's when I I grew up very blue collar, but the version of me 10 years ago is not the version of me today, and they're still lot for me to improve.
But I used to have, like, the gas app on my phone, jumped by the cheapest gas and, like, there was a lot of development that had to go as far as changing what my limitations were. You know, we all have this box we put around ourselves, and I can't do that or I can't earn that or I can't be that it's a bunch of garbage. Like, with the opportunities that we have here, we don't even realize.
I I just just shared before I went to El Salvador with my daughter you know, just seeing where people come from a truth or a country, they have no resources, no money, no education, they have rocks holding down the roost, Like, most of them lives like Chaz. We don't have an environment that we can literally can do whatever we want, but our mindsets prevent us from going to the next level. Yeah. It's so true, and we hear it.
Like, it's not like the listener today is hearing you say this for the first time. Right? They're hearing you say it for the first time, but they haven't heard it for the first time. Shoot. So what's the gap between hearing it and hearing it? I think the gap is just finally believing in with yourself that capable of doing in it for all of us Chaz takes a different amount of time. Yeah. It's it's some of us.
The pressure allows us to to take it that next step sometimes It's more of a nurturing effect. It's all gonna be definitely for us. And, you know, I didn't even realize it that I needed that. It just really was connecting well. It was the right people and people that are doing bigger. And I just I feel like a lot of that came from going to masterminds, going to events and and paying for it because The reality of it is you're gonna pay for it one way or another.
The 1st, any years, I did everything self taught, reading books, and plowing my path, and that's how it started, but I didn't realize about the membership side. And, you know, I'm not selling any membership, but I'm just if I had to look back and change things. If I wanna take that mentorship earlier and hand that person to be next side by side with me and and provide the path in that reassurance, I would've got that a lot faster.
Yeah. Yeah. I think once you know what the path looks like, if you will, then you know how long it took you. And if you can help somebody understand before they have to go figure it out themselves, then then their path just becomes literally to the same exact marker that becomes so much less and the difficulty or the gap there, since we're talking about gaps, even in my own perspective, is the willingness to listen or the willingness to go.
I value that enough to where I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go do and not question things because I questioned everything, and that's been great, but it's also been, man, if I had just not been so stubborn, if I had just just just go do it, champ. You know, I probably even even after I had the recognition that you do that mentorship is good, it took me a long time myself to say it had the same acknowledgment that you just described.
Even when I had the acknowledgement, I was still trying to pick it apart and Sure. Goodness gracious. You know? Wondering doing anything that somebody else hasn't done. Right. You know? So once we we can tag on to a person, find something successful and just copy what they do and take action and change Chaz behavior. Yeah. 100%. K. So tell me about what was the difficulty. So I want you to go back. So you kinda told us how you got started. You burned the bridge.
You wanna be around a different layer of people. That's why you left fire station, you know, the whole deal. But now you're in business, and you're kinda making things work. And it's, you know, you're in the home section. And before 2008, you're probably experiencing some some wins and losses. What was the struggle of that time? Like, the biggest, like, put your stamp on it. This was the hardest thing from 0 to a1000000, let's say.
The hardest struggle, it's it that that's a really hard one because there's been so many struggles challenging the explosion losing key people, you know, having these nolens and hours of closing a deal and don't think there's any way that Chaz happen. Right. But I gotta see, like, every time we've been through this massive stressful events, it's created and kind of raised me up x level.
What I mean by that is when I experience a similar stress event on the next time, it's not nearly as stressful because you start to gain the confidence You've been there, you've done that. Things blew up worst case, Sara, and you were able to get through it. So many times I feel that it's just fear that stops us and prevents us because the fear of the unknown, the what if, the worst case scenario. But in reality, rarely is it ever worst case scenario?
And every time, no matter how bad it is, we've been able to get through it. So I I think that's really been the biggest piece of just getting going through those experience, getting your head squeeze in advice, and just having the confidence that you can get to the next event. Yeah. So, I mean, obviously, that's a lot of mindset there, persistence, kind of just like a no quit, just figure it out. I love I wrote this down, actually, the stressor event. I'm actually right after this show.
I'm doing a a connection call with the folks inside of Gathering the King's mastermind, and and we're gonna talk about, a similar deal, but I'm gonna use this language, actually. And I'll let them know your name and and they can reach out to you. But but the reality of it is is that we go through these, what you're saying, stressor events. And I had one last week. And where on top of all these things that are normally happening, what should have gone really smooth and this, this, this, didn't.
And because of that, I had to then put another level of intensity onto it. And so now I think differently. Could I have thought the way that I think now last week before it? Yes. In fact, it's not like this revolutionary, like, oh my goodness. I had never thought about that before. But now I know that I have to think like this or that it's, like, the old way can't even be an option anymore because I need to eliminate what just happened. Right?
Sure. Sure. And it's like almost changing your vocabulary. I can't how can I use that forces you finding solutions where he has just, a more specific example that happened to me? So when I was transitioning into the multifamily space, I I listed for an apartment. I hit a a number of single family homes.
I was taking out small apartment buildings and Chaz I finally was able to enter into relationship with a brokered and we were able to build trust and that trusted relationship allowed me to get more deal flow because people wanna do business with people they like and trust. Yeah. So we were able to get a smaller apartment, like, a 36 year on a contract, and that was I had to raise, like, 500 grand for that. So whatever wasn't that big of a deal.
But now Chaz relationship opened up another deal with. Now I needed 2,000,000. Next one was a 1,000,000. Next one is 500 grand. Next one is 1.5 and everything hit at the same time, the same summer.
And it was a massive stressful event, but that was just an example that That was a time that my head got put into a vice, and I will never forget that period of how stressful it was because if only I didn't produce know, there was a $400,000,000 of earnest money that I was gonna get lost and my reputation and the deals and the cash flow and the equity. Yeah. So, you know, just that's just a specific example as to Yeah. One of those events.
100%. So I I want you to take me to a specific decision, a good decision that you made along the way, particularly in that time frame, that 0 to a 1,000,000 mark, because that's where the listener is. Something that you did that you can look back on and go, I'm glad I did that. I'll do it again. Yeah. There there'd be a number of them, but I I think the biggest one I would go back to is is mentoring. Will that be mastermind?
It really involves you having to take money out of your pocket and pay it to somebody, you know, podcasts or amazing webinars, books are all amazing. But when you put money into something and you have skin in the game, it results in you leveling up to the next level because you've invested money And it's like the biggest investor we can make really aren't in ourselves.
So many people, I feel like they take a path where they quit at a high school or they quit at college but our education, like, you gotta find out where your passion is and continue on that path and persistently push on it And when you do, it's just amazing the opportunities that open up open up after that. Yeah. No. You're a 100% right. It's the, you know, money where your mouth is type of a phrase. But you're right.
When when you when you commit to that thing, whatever that is, and you put your money there, it draws out this this next level because it's in there. It's in there. It's the same thing of, you know, it might makes me think of a video I did, like, I don't know, December time frame. Actually, no. It's November. What it was.
And the video is on the same mindset, but it was, like, in November, you're waiting for January 1 to go, you know, sign up with your gym and get you a trainer and that fun stuff because you're waiting for January 1. I'm like, if it's really that go go right now. Sure. Hey, double, actually. Sure. Tell him, ask him what his fee is. Pay him double ahead as a tip and then tell me you're not gonna show up and change whatever it is that you're trying to change. Game weight, lose weight, whatever.
You know? That's how we vote with our wallet. Exactly. Okay. Flip the coin here. Tell me about a a bad choice. Tell me something that was disastrous. I would have to see it would be going back to more of my beginning years. In the very beginning, I had a very, very much a poverty mindset. I wasn't going to pay for that mentoring I was always looking to find the cheapest route possible.
So for example, when I started rehabbing rental properties, the goal was to be as cheap as possible with rehabs Chaz always look in my face. Right. You know, skilled laborers and cheap and cheap laborers and skilled, for example. Amen. The the cheap path and trying to take c players and create b players out of them. Yeah. It it doesn't And we for an a product. Exactly. You're like, when you hire an 8 player, you're gonna pay 8 wages or 8 compensation, whatever you wanna look at Chaz.
Yep. But that person is going to create revenue. They're gonna drive sales. Whatever your business, your industry is, when you find those right people and they'll have the data quarterly to motivate them. They're not a classroom expense. They're an asset to business and to your organization. Right. And when when I've hired so many of the raw people in the years, It's not the revenue that we lost in that moment. It's the momentum we lost. It's the deal flow. It's the equity.
There there's so much more that gets lost than what that amount is. And that when we started transitioning, looking at bringing people more heat players and pay paying accordingly, that's something that was a mindset black for me and sometimes other people. Let's just take the salary of a $100,000, you know, whatever your industry is. Yep. You're not paying that person a 100,000 hours. You're paying them x amount of dollars per week.
And if they don't deliver, you're not gonna be paying them for a year you may pay him for weeks or months before he has to make a transition. And then, you know, I, as well as others are like, yeah, this isn't working. We hired this person, but you know, that transition from doing everything yourself to growing, there's gonna be a lot of growing pains, a lot of band relationships, but the way that I look at it too, it's like I've had some personal relationships that demated on me.
I didn't stop dating women because of that. I never finally worked out. So it's the same thing with business. So good. So simple, but so good. Hey. Hey, Charles Wolf here. As many of you know, I have been on an absolute mission to help entrepreneurs from all across the country in many different industries, level up their game and grow their business, and intentionally connect with other entrepreneurs.
We do Chaz, obviously, through the podcast, but We also have a peer to peer mastermind group specifically for 7 to 9 figure business owners.
We are bringing some of the best and most successful entrepreneurs and minds together in a regular and a super intentional way to not only grow our network, but to be able to leverage And at a certain point in business, success becomes about leverage, leveraging time, leveraging resources, leveraging key relationships, This is exactly what we're doing inside of the peer to peer mastermind group called Gathering the Kings, specifically for 7
to 9 figure business owners, So if that's you, if you're ready to level up your 7 to 9 figure business, even to the next level and get around other big hitters just like you, I want you to go to gathering the king's dot com. Fill out a short application, and, it'll come to an application, call with me, and I wanna chat with you, see if it might be a good fit. Talk soon. All the things that you're sharing, you've even given some exact examples. Were these, like, epiphanies?
Were these you know, in one of those masterminds where you're having a conversation and someone saying, and you're like, oh, yeah. Like, I've had that same thing too. Or maybe a combination of both. Was it in in a journaling time? Like, what where are you getting these, like, next to the level mindset piece? It's been a combination of just the experience of going to the past and, you know, getting my face, you know, knocked in a few times. And then also masterminds and just venturing as well.
It's just I think that's been the work that's probably been most important with masterminds and mentoring. It's not necessarily the the person in front of the room It's the people within the room that you get to build relationships with. And then this person has been their donut. You now have relationship with So when that time comes, you could then put a hold on and say, hey.
This is where I may have do you have any suggestion, but that phone call only was able to be received and communicated because you built a relationship. So, like, relationship capital is so critical and so many times we overlook that. Yeah. And one of my mentors, you mentioned Chaz word multiple times relationship capital. It's our network. It's so critical to our success.
Yeah. And for you to be able to put yourself in a situation where you're not just meeting people, but then creating the relationship so that they can just even remember your name, but then, like, do deals together or create, you know, opportunities together. I'm gonna just give myself a little bit of a tap here. At the very beginning, I'm you said, dude, this this entire podcast process that you put me through is, like, top notch. You're on with their notifications and this.
And, of course, we send out something in the mail and It's like you're gonna remember gathering the Kings for sure. You know? And that's I mean, I don't know. Who knows where this relationship's gonna go? I'm excited to see. Maybe we do a deal together. Maybe there's a conference or maybe shoot. Maybe maybe we do something together. I don't know. But the reality is is that that would have never been possible. If if we didn't invest in relationship capital. Absolutely. 100%.
Okay. So what process or discipline do you have now? Around making decisions in the business in life, you know, whatever you got for us, Jack. So it it's been a bit of a transition. Like, in the very beginning, process for me was as a solar per newer. Like, everything was me. Every decision was mine to make.
Over the years, for me, it's been a transition of mentoring my team members hiring those right people, but then building up enough trust with those team members that they can start taking over those roles and responsibilities. And Delta was a very hard decision for myself. And for everybody that has made that transition, that's been difficult as well. But if you really wanna grow and have a business, Chaz that piece of it is so critical for that to occur.
Otherwise, if you happen to be the decision maker at every point, You have a very highly paid job that doesn't negotiate without you being there. Yeah. Yeah. Which isn't valuable and can't be sold. Exactly.
And, you know, when when you're able to do that as well, you give up control and you give up some compensation, your time gets freed up for whenever your goals and your purposes are, whether that's your, you know, obviously, to take more time with family but also being able to build other opportunities and other revenue streams. So, you know, sometimes we look at Chaz as we're giving them a sacrifice.
We're giving them a controller in revenue but you're really robbing from yourself if you're not going to transition. So good. We're gonna have to quote that. For sure, you're robbing yourself if you don't Okay. I wanna come at you at a couple different angles here with the speed round questions. The first one is this.
If you had to take your business or businesses, different, you know, different angles of your business, I guess, To whimble it all down into one trackable metric, what is that metric that you would track for every number? Oh my goodness. Like, KPIs are so critical, but that one metric. That that's a hard one, but I I think just coming off the cuff on this one, I think Wolfe be tracking the relationship capital and the conversations that are actually being built.
And what I mean by that is the let me just use real estate, for example. But, again, this applies to, you know, many other businesses, but you need people to help you with operations, management, leasing, construction, capital raising, in every one of those pieces is relationship with capital. That one metric that's involved to bring almost together. Whether that you're in a manufacturing, this is one of the cases, it's the people that allow the widgets to be built.
So I would say that probably be the answer. Yeah. Love it. K. What book would you recommend that a 6 figure business owner read. 6 figure. So going back to beginning, I can easily answer that red check for Chaz. And 6 figure, you know, I would see, like, Dave and Goggins, like, can't hurt me and then, like, Jacob Wilkins, like, both of those guys, like, the level that they're at. It's so so amazingly and so powerful.
I I would say those would be 2. 2 I used it 1, but I'd say 2 authors that you would be doing yourself a disservice Chaz would and 2. Yeah. Of course. Jocco's incredible. I'm I am curious on David Goggins. Can't hurt me. What's in your cookie jar? What do you what do you what do you pull out in those moments? Oh, man. I think what I'll put in those moments would just be the persistence of not giving out.
Yeah. There there's so many times that All of us have to encounter an in situation that we don't have the answer, but there is a solution to everyone's problems and issues. Recurrence of how big it is. Yeah. Yeah. And your willingness to press in and find it. Of course. Love that. Okay. I got a couple of operational questions here. How would you use your time?
If you were only given 1 hour each week to work on your business businesses, how would you use that 1 hour to successfully run your business like you do I think probably the most critical thing would be just scheduling that time so that time never gets over over run or overlooked. And just the preparation of making sure that it could just be my full focus for that period of time for it.
And then secondly, just probably identifying what task or would be most critical for the utilization Chaz 1 hour. You know, it's probably not gonna be negotiating flooring pricing. It's probably gonna be more of the bringing the operations and the team together, and we're trying to understand again, having them track their key APIs and being able to review in brief moment. What are our KPIs for that business? Yeah. Love it.
You've already shared, you know, my normal question is, do you intentionally network or mastermind with other entrepreneurs obviously, you do a lot of of your mindset has come from that. Would you would you I want to I wanna open up your perspective to, like, the person that's listening right now maybe they've even heard me talk about this very thing on the show, or maybe they've been to a conference or wanted to go to a conference or wanted to join a group, whatever it was, and then they don't.
Procrastination scarcity mindset around the money. You kinda related to that earlier. What would you say to that person right there that, like, they it's just the just rip off the band aid, dude, you know, like, whatever that looks like for them. What would you say to that person? Exactly. You know, I think it'll just go back to But look at your situation where you're at and where you wanna be and how long have you been not able to reject gap? Because so many times it comes down to 2 things.
That's money and the time to remember why people will be willing to afford And sometimes it's even gets a little more challenging in there where they just don't believe they're capable of it, that they can't do that. They can't achieve rack. And then that that also gets intermediated.
But, you know, the one thing I think that really was really helpful with Richard or I was just looking at the mindset of, like, In our educational system, we've been taught that when we make mistakes, mistakes, and we're punished for mistakes, we're disciplined for making mistakes. But the only way we can get ahead is our willingness to make mistakes alert from them. Every time it read money in a house or a project, there's not much alert.
Every time I lose money on a project, I learn an incredible amount of information. So, like, the fear that stops us from moving forward It's just it it's really unfortunate. Some of us are able to push forth in that faster than others, but it all comes out to me. We just have to make a decision just do it. Yeah. That's right. Good. Last question here for you, Jack. If you lost it all, what would you do?
I would immediately go back to what's my network to building my network I would say easy in that. And then as far as, like, tactically what I would do, you know, I think for each person that would have to look, you know, like, what what are your what is your main skill set? What is your gift you could focus whether that's sales, building a business, maybe, etcetera. Yeah. I get that. But I think it comes down again to that net work. That network is everything.
That network is the opportunities, whether it's sales or networking, building, whatever the case is, it comes out to network. What Wolfe you say? Because, I mean, obviously, the if I had to theme or coin this show, it would be mindset as well as network. That that those 2 things are obviously huge for you exude. Just it just resonates right out of you. What would you say to the guy listening to right now? He's hearing you, and he's going, jeez. I mean, I don't know if I've got a good network.
Sure. You know, like, outside of, obviously, you know, coaching mental, we've nailed that one all the way down. What else can they do? You know, I really feel for that network. It's gonna be a combination of paying up to get into the room with people. There's people that are successful that are busy it's pretty hard to pin those individuals down. Yeah. And if they're down, they're relaxing with their family, they generally are just the mindset they wanna stay in that range.
And I think secondly, it's just having clarity as far as what do you wanna pursue, real estate, buying existing value at businesses, ecommerce, crypto trading, like, what is your niche you wanna do and finalize the people that you wanna replicate and just try to do what you can to get within a circle. If that person doesn't have and mentoring what what are what are the cases, do something out of the ordinary to get their attention.
Now I have sent many people you know, sizable gift cards and gifts and thoughtful gifts, or I can go on Facebook. Now I had a I had a a loan broker that just absolutely crushed for me. And I had a deal that was gonna fall apart and he'd like pulled it through. It'd be impossible. So one on this Facebook page, I found out Chaz, you know, he was in Wolfe, and you have about a 450 hour golf bag.
And then got, like, 300 hours, 300 hours of golf balls, and Chaz them all personalized with, like, deal clothes or something. So, like, when people deliver or if you wanna get into somebody's attention, find out what they're into. Do something thoughtful, put some money into it, and reach out and make yourself vulnerable. And it's just that for me has paid off massive dividends by doing that. Yeah. 100%. I took an interview I owned several businesses at the time, but I took an interview.
I'm at the 10 x headquarters, Grant Cardone's office, and I was interviewed by a few people. And I was offered 2 positions that I turned down. I still sent this ginormous edible arrangement basket Chaz was the businesses that I owned at the time. It was in a different city, so I still had to pay for it. It wasn't like it was free. But I specifically added bananas because the guy that I wanted to connect with like chocolate dip bananas. It's awesome. And a year and a half later, he called me.
Well, we've been talking, but he called me for an opportunity that was so unique that I moved my entire family across the country. I had 7 businesses at that time. I had grown 7 businesses, and I still moved my entire family across the country for an opportunity inside that organization for a short period of time. But the reality of it is is that did it come down to the bandanas? Probably not. But but my name, the opportunity, the encounter that we had was heightened and remembered.
Yes. The freaking bananas. Exactly. And, like, even when I was trying to get hard to part apartment, you know, I was thinking, like, how do I set myself apart? So I I'm being interviewed with ten people that were all just the same face and same name at the end of the day. So, you know, having, like, a colored copy resume, but secondly, when I left, I had a pre addressed, you know, thank you note that it was headed to the secretary.
Like, I'm trying to hit them up a couple of times and just, like, how do I stand out with anybody else and all of the times to stand out? It doesn't take much more than just a little bit of effort to stand yourself out somebody else. That's right. That's right. You've been incredible. Jack, how can someone connect with you, find you? They wanna know you. They wanna do a deal with you. How can they find you?
Yeah. So, yeah, how many Facebook would be the easiest way, you know, just reach out to me on there, you know, hit me up a messenger, and then we could connect and jump on a call. Like I said, the things that I'm going on right now is business wise is we're we do raise investor capital to invest into single family homes Another investment opportunity that I've been involved in. I brought a lot of people in.
I didn't do this until they handled a lot of time, 7 months of conviction and proof and concept, but there there's a Ford X trading bot that I've been involved in. It's been it's been making crazy returns. So the one thing that's been really helpful for me is, like, as I started as a fireman, you know, we didn't make a lot of money, but I was able to put myself in a position where I was able to massively grow my network in a very short amount of time.
Like, for example, you know, I make more in washes and dryers right now from the quarters I collect are those apartments that I made as a fire. Right. So, like, it's been really cool then to, like, be in a position where I was helping people out physically in the heart department, you know, and the squad and the fire drop. To help people as financially.
So what that what that spend is there's, you know, we've got about $12,000,000 that we've raised on the apartments and the houses, and we're able to help people find a safe return. But then also with this other opportunity, it's been a way where people can take small investments and generate some pretty significant cash flow. So it's been a really good way of kind of getting transitioning from physically helping people to financially helping people. And that's really Chaz been my big transition.
You know, it's finding the needs and be able to put people together and be able to provide cash flow for them. Because at the end of the day, you know, cash flow is what's needed to retire, and that was the piece that was so messy when I was in our department. Like, you've got a pension. The net sounds great. But you don't realize by the time you leave and health care gets kicked in, like, that pension is not able to cover you to get you to a point of life that you wanna be at.
In providing financial opportunities, investments, cash flow is what allows people to have financial freedom. And I think that's the biggest thing about us only businesses. It's the cash flow that it creates. It's not just the cash, but the cash provides the financial and the time freedom. Yeah. And we can't get our time back. You know, that's so the most critical thing for me personally. Yeah. No. I mean, huge.
I I so appreciate your willingness that to talk about those things, even just the 4 x information, you know, you just It's stuff like Chaz, crypto, that that there's a lot of uncertainty. And so to know guys that are, you know, high profile guys making a lot of money in other areas, that's a great place to go. It makes me think of back in 2017 when I started investing in crypto. You know, my whole family was like, what are you doing?
And for a while there, it looked like they were right, but we've made some incredible returns there as well. And so No. The reality of it is is I hope that the listener is paying attention. Not only to your mindset and your relationship capital advice, but also that they would reach out and connect with you on those things and how to invest in lots of alternative ways, it sounds like. And on that subject, we mentioned 2017. Let me just another point on Chaz.
When I was buying houses at $4000 a house, my friends, my family, my co worker's son, I'm just crazy. Why would you touch real estate but I'm like, I'm buying a house for 4000 hours. Like, how can you not see the opportunity? In a 2017 trip with pretty ugly, people again also Chaz opinion, and then the upside was massive.
Well, the same thing right now, you know, the time to buy it to invest in what is in the streets, and that's where we're ramping now That's not to say every decision is right, but when I got invested into the crypto and Forex Chaz they I shortcut that process by a hard dementia. So it took me a lot longer to get up to see Chaz it does in my real estate site, but, you know, on the forex trading about it, you're making 7% net per month with that preservation capital.
Like, you can grow capital pretty quickly. And also full disclosure, I also got investments in a number of things that we're scams. They're in the process of losing money and making mistakes. You really start to be able to see what a scam is, what isn't, and just sharpen your skills as an investor. So, like, for me personally, my wife and I have several other businesses. We got a quite a few apartments for building homes.
So we have other sources of cash flows so we can make other diversifications and investments, again, for the whole sole purpose of creating other flows of cash flow for us. Yeah. 100% cash flow is king Chaz they say. So I just so appreciate your time. You've been incredibly valuable here today, Jack. I can't wait to see where the conversation goes. We wish you nothing but success, blessing on your family, your businesses, all your businesses. Your wife, the whole deal. Thank you for being here.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
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