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240 | From Micro Victories to Mega Success: Real Estate Secrets

May 23, 202332 minEp. 240
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In this episode, Chaz Wolfe converses with real estate entrepreneur Adrian Smalls. They delve into the role of emotional intelligence in business, overcoming legal and mental challenges, and the discipline of decision-making. They discuss the significance of quick action, one trackable metric, and networking. They also touch on improving your business in one hour per week, rebuilding after a business failure, and Adrian's book recommendations.

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On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. I said to myself, do you think people who are worth a $100,000,000? You don't think that they went through this? Like, I had to really talk to myself. Like, I'm like, you're woe is me. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta get on it and get moving. You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe.

Featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the reel of the reel. On what it takes to build a successful business today. We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along assess and how you too can get there.

Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody? I'm Wolfe gathering the king's podcast. I've got Adrian's smallest here on the king stage today. My brother, how you doing? Good, man. How are you? Good. Good. Yeah. We're good. We were just talking off air. How being an entrepreneur is all about being flexible.

Took us a minute to get get the tech situated here on this, on for the show, but here we are, nonetheless. Absolutely. Why don't you tell us what kind of business that you're in, brother? And I will get rolling here. Absolutely. So operate mostly in the real estate we handle the fix and flips. We also have a marketing division of that business that finds, locates off market properties, And then also now we're getting into the construction and the development of real estate.

So we have some property in Charleston, South Carolina. It's actually technically John's Island. And then, we closed I just closed on a 3.6 Acre property near St1 Mountain. That's right in front of a lake. So That's the other side of the business, but real estate, we try to touch it all. And, of course, we're working on 2 smaller and multifamily deals. I love it. Yeah. You said it. A lot of ways to go in real estate. Sounds like you're touching a lot of different spots.

It's actually what I love about real estate also. I love the creativity. Of it and how people, professionals Chaz get involved in totally different angles. I first got involved in in real estate, not even wanting to necessarily be a real estate professional but is I just knew I needed it, and I was wanting to put money somewhere for legacy purposes. Why did you get into real estate? Man, that's a that's a great question.

So literally, like, when I was going to school, I it was all, like, business. Right? So I went to Howard University, got a BA in finance, And I'm thinking, like, I'm a go to Wall Street Brown and, you know, I have a couple buddies like that. And so I was slowly subconsciously paying attention to my uncles who they were building houses. They were getting them moved in South Carolina. So what happens is when the government or the county or the city is about to tear down a house.

If you contact them and talk to them, you can actually get yourself you can put yourself in a position to move that house. Onto property and almost many rehab it and reconstruct it and put it up. So, literally, you get the house for free except for moving it and putting it back together. So I keep my interest, and I was just I was like, yeah. I was just thinking about so much capital you need to do that. Fast forward, I got a point where my uncle kept saying, are you gonna do it? Are you ready?

And I wasn't ready. And, 2014, that's when I pulled a trigger on the 1st deal. And I didn't have a lot of money. I didn't I wasn't experienced or well versed in it. What happened is someone asked me to borrow $8000 to rehab a property She was just gonna put some windows and do some other stuff. So I was like, the mortgage gee, I just did what I could with what I Chaz. Because that grant, I didn't have a $100,000 in around.

So I did Chaz. And then all of a sudden, she just defaulted, and I kept trying to work with her on it. And she just finally just Like, you know what? I don't I can't give the money back. And so I literally impromptu had to take over the house. I'm okay. Now I have a house. Now what do I have? I was like, oh, like, most banks, I don't get in it to to flip the property. I got into it to lend money and get a return and move on. Chaz was kind of it was funny.

That was, like, very first real estate deals aside from purchasing money in your first home, but my investment, our first investment deal. Interesting. Yes. It, like, what you just described is even what we were talking about at the beginning here when you're having tech issues, he does sometimes you just get thrown into something and you just gotta figure it out along the way. Yeah. I've got so many questions for you around Yeah. Around all of that and the nitty gritty of that in your history.

But before we jump to that, I like to ask this question upfront people can kinda understand who they're talking to and maybe your mindset after all of this that you've built. Obviously, that was the first story. You've done countless deals since then 1,000,000 of dollars. Yeah. Why are you still at it? That's what I wanna know. Man, there's always something at a certain point. I think I'm a collegiate athlete. Right? And I'm competitive, and I've been playing sports all my life.

And I think the will to win and to continue to build upon something is just And then, you know, keep battling. You keep doing it. It's for your own good. It's no I gotta hit this bar and make a 1,000,000 or whatever. You go past that. Right? So most of us don't stop. Like, it's it's just in us to continue to build and grow. Like, we're just about what is next and what can we do to impact, like, more people, like, further reach. Right? Like, where why can't I do it globally?

Why can't I think that Why can't I grow and continue to push myself? So I think for me, it's just that. It's just the name. Right? You just you continue to wanna grow and get better in a ball. There is no destination We all know that. Right? You just continue with growing. So that's it. You're just fighting the fighting at the end of the day to be different in Tariva Impact. There you go.

There you I was gonna ask you, like, what's the end game, but you just said there to leave an impact to to have a different story written, view, your family, whatever it is. I'm curious. Before before success to whatever degree that we've established that you've you've reached so far because obviously, you're still going.

Yeah. Was that was this way of thinking, like, in you as a athlete of, I'm just gonna be super successful in business, or has that mindset of never stopping just transferred over to me. It kinda it's it transferred over to business. I had a tough Man, I was playing soccer, but I had a ex football coach. And you don't wanna realize what impact people have on you. That's why I try to give back.

I'm actually speaking out in advance for the use next next week, but you don't understand the impact of how you train and teach and speak to younger kids. And so he was just tough. He was like, there is no quitting. There is no giving up. It's for your team. You gotta have that passion. And so going through that and understanding that and also the growth of being down, like, 4 to 1 and you get that pep talk at Thomas, if you don't believe it, it's not gonna happen.

And then all of a sudden, you just rally up with the last little ounce of effort you got and you just take it one goal at a time. And next thing you know, you're winning the game. Now when you see those little micro those little micro victories. They become macro victories when you understand that it's all about perseverance. Right? You just gotta no matter how it looks, no matter how it feels, you gotta keep going. And so I think business is more important about your EQT and your IQ.

There's a lot of smart people who can run businesses and do a lot of great things, but I see a lot of people tap out. The emotional side of man. If if you can't raise that EQ or understand it and say, I gotta keep an even keel and move in positions and know that this not the end. This is just a part of the process, then you'll be in trouble. You just have to understand that. So I think the EQ, component of it is way bigger than IQ. And so that was what transferred for me. I agree with you, man.

I wanna dig into that. And so specifically in business, let's just jump right to something that you've done that maybe wasn't the best decision, forced that emotional persistence that you're talking. Yeah, man. Chaz. In business, where do you start? I think the the thing is even outlane in that situation, I'll go back to that one and touch on it, and I'll use others. Like, the one where I started out as the mortgage person, and then I wanted down that road.

While that was going on, there was another deal that I took on in South Carolina downtown And I thought it was brilliant to just try to help out, hey. I'll rehab this house, and I'll sell it back to the owner. She she could then do it. So I figured it'd be a a one one situation to create a leaseback so that she can then purchase the house 18 to 24 months later. Perhaps just turn into an animal.

And the story with these 2 that happened back to back is important because when you when you realize, or you feel the pain upfront, That's when you determine whether you're gonna keep going in this business or tap out. So she, in this this particular scenario, she drug it out for two and a half years through courts, literally like I was subsidized in income. The judge got to the point where he was like, hey, this lady's just squatered.

And so we finally got to that point, but who was stroking that check over that last over those 18 to 24 months while we were in court? Who had it all on the line, right, who had to pay attorney fees, but you don't have any money. So, literally, I had to strike a deal with the attorney it got to the point with so bad. I was like, man, I can't afford to keep going at this rate. So here's who we can do.

Can you literally take a small percentage of the hourly rate bunk me up on a commission side because you know you were gonna more than likely win, and you Wolfe get your windfall on the end part. And, again, that's one of the things that I started out thinking was gonna be a $30,000 rehab. They ended up being 90. I was using credit cards to try to get through the whole thing. I was, like, taking on personal loans, any type of payday loans. I was working at the same time. It was just ugly.

It was a ugly time, and my wife's looking at me like, yeah, no, thank you. I don't wanna get into real estate. I don't why don't you just quit? You know what I mean? And I at this so many times you have your discussion when you're down in the dungeon. When I say in the dungeon, you're in your mind. You're in the bottom. You're like, man, It's dark in here. It's cold in here. No one's here. You know what I mean? And, like, how do you just fight to get out of that?

How do you pull yourself up out of that you're getting helped in every single reason to quit. So I think when you hit those roadblocks up front and you can push past those, it's just like they over time, it's like you build that muscle to save. I know I'm gonna fight through it, and I know that eventually is gonna be alright. But you don't know that when you're starting out. No. You don't.

And, dude, obviously, I mean, I I hope the listener is buckled in with her seat belt because the the next 30 minutes, we're gonna roll hard on this one. I could tell, but I could listen to you for hours, man.

I'm getting fired up over here just listening to the story, but I wanna know in that moment, like, went, like, specifically, not just in the But when you were in the dungeon during that when Wifey was uncertain, when the courts were dragging your money, like, all of that what were the things that you did to climb out of the dungeon? Of course, you remember the sports. Of course, you remember the moments, the why.

It all the cliche, the success answers, but what were you thinking in that moment would you actually do? Man, so getting myself back in that moment, I think the thing is hopeful. Like, you're hopeful and you're saying, like, give me one good thing. Like, I was latching on one little small little victory. And, like, I latched on to that Chaz one thing. And then I said, it got to the point where I said, this is an expensive education. Right?

I'm gonna go through all of this and just walk away and just say I lost all of this. Well, I'm gonna just be like, okay. I learned through it. So a combination of those 2 things I just was latching on. And then the third thing that really helped me was a side on a bigger picture I said to myself, do you think people who are worth a $100,000,000? You don't think that they went through this? Like, I had to really talk to myself. Like, I'm like, you're woe is me. Know what I mean?

Like, you gotta get on it and get moving. They have countless stories. The thing about it is that you don't hear the people that don't continue to persevere. Their stories are. I've I've done real estate. It doesn't work. You hear that all the time. And so Yeah. All of those things were happening in my mind, like simultaneously. I was reaching out saying any little good thing I can figure out or any little good thing, any bump or anything I was lashing on to that.

And then I was just saying, if you wanna be the man, you gotta be the man. Right? You gotta I just thought I just changed it, and I think that that toughness just started coming in. It's like inch by inch. Fight Chaz. What are you gonna do? Quit So those things, like, started pulling me out of it, man, and I just started Wesley too saying, man, what can you just stop saying, it was so easy to get sucked into the victim mentality when you're getting pelted. Like, you're like, man, Jesus.

Read. Can I get a break? I was like, I could not get a break. So I was like, it's so easy to fall into that victim mentality, but I was like, man, just keep fighting. Just the 1 by 1. And then also even like little things when you're hearing, try to feed your some motivation and other things. Like, I was just trying to pour things into me to change my mind, even if it was a temporary thing. Like, I might get motivation speeding. Right? That's, like, you can hear it earlier.

But it was enough to get me, like, okay. Come on. We get back focused. And then an hour later, you're getting it paid. There's a 3 week stall on a quarter of appeals. You just get out of here and ready for it. That's right. No, dude. I I so relate to that. I think everybody listening to listening right now can as well, but I think back to 3 consecutive years. I own multiple franchises. We're doing 1,000,000 in sales, and we had 3 consecutive down years.

And it was probably the toughest time that I've experienced in business because I had grown really fast, and I had set myself up beautifully if things hadn't been consecutive back to back down years. If we had been great years, like the last 3 years have been, literally, had been, I had done everything right. I had expanded. I had the teams Chaz, like, I had invested. I had done all the Chaz I thought were right things. And then downturn and then boom.

And I think back to those moments, I had never thought about it like this until you just said this. That's when I was most glued to audible and to videos and to the things that I needed to scratch and claw, and I was trying to find a win everywhere. And I Chaz this quote in one of my workbooks, in our mastermind, it says that confidence is the drug and winning is the dealer. And so I was just like like what you're saying. I was just cratching and clawing for this win.

I gotta find a win every freaking day. Right. And and that's what you just described, man. I got freaking goosebumps over here. I'm freaking ready to run through the Wolfe. We're just in the podcast here. I think you've already delivered. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Absolutely. Alright. Well, let's switch the energy here. Tell me about some you did on the flip side, the, good decision Chaz was not so painful. Yeah. I think the thing and I don't know if it's a good decision.

I think it's a multiple decisions that I made. And saying to myself, like, I need to show up in places, and I need to make sure that, present What I mean by that is I start I got my start in the flipping side of it. I had I was marketing, wholesaling businesses, selling off deals that we got in. 1 of the private investors came to me and was like, people are always watching. Never forget that. People are always watching and they're always interviewing.

She was like, I like how you conduct yourself. When you say you're good, do you do it? And I just was saying to myself, like, being in meetings and going to the meetups and stuff like that, doing those decisions and making myself comfortable. Hey. Just go up and talk. Like, simple things like that people don't don't think about. Most of the time, business people were were extroverts, but we're introvert. We're so busy, like, for me analyzing the next moves and thinking about business. And Right.

Sometimes they're like, we we look at people like, okay, what is the angle and what's going on? So I was like, you gotta get over Chaz. Talk to people in a track. Attract the people that you're looking for. And so that decision to keep going to these meetings and these meetups and conducted business the right way led me to the right people. And so I think it's just thinking about that and stepping forward and saying, put yourself in a situation where you can meet the right people.

And just it's all the same thing. It doesn't change. Get get uncomfortable. And I think that's the thing. Those decisions that just showing up and finding a meeting 1 or 2 meetings and seeing how you can be of assistance was the thing for me that kinda changed it. And it just goes back to mindset. Yeah. I love, obviously, the value of the relationship that you're talking about and how one relationship can catapult someone's entire business, someone's entire life.

But and I I think that every listener has heard that. And that's fantastic. What I really heard from you just now, of course, that was how. Like, this is what you specifically did. Search out key relationships. Fantastic. Get uncomfortable. I love it. But what I heard you say, it was that it was a history of doing it over and over and over and over and over again. Some days, you went and you didn't want to. Some days, you went and you didn't meet anybody.

Some days, you went and you felt like it was a waste of time. Some days, you went and you met that person. You didn't know you met that person, but years later, you realize that it was that moment when you didn't think that it was that person that you had met that person. And in the last 2 years, they've been watching or whatever the exact circumstances. So what I heard was discipline.

What I heard was find the thing that makes sense and just do it over and over and over Would you add anything to that? Yeah. Absolutely. I think, like, the whole TV show undercover boss, what it said to me is you always gotta get down on the front and be present because it would have been easy at at that point. Like, the business was clicking Chaz, oh, I don't go out in the field, and I don't go on these go shows and all. I don't do that.

I was like, no. I need to be out there because if something's going wrong, I'm gonna figure it out in the front end. So those types of things, when you're talking about making decisions and going to the meetings and being present, present, and going to the shows that we have inspections and things like that when we first started out is important because, again, that's where your business is. That's the intake. That's where your customers get to meet your business.

It's hard to give direction to team you don't understand it at that level. 100%. Yeah. What kind of discipline or process maybe do you have now for making decisions? Man, so typically for me, I analyze it and I give myself no more than 20 seconds. Believe it or not, to think about a decision. And that why I say 20 and not instantly is because sometimes instantly, you're off just a little bit.

Twenty seconds is I instantly made a decision, but now my mind is scanning through and making sure that I'm checking out all the yay's needs and possibilities. And then by the time I get to that end of that 20 seconds, I'm done with it. That decision is gonna be that decision. And the other thing is just like anyone else, I'm going with the gut first. If I if my gut is if I don't feel that, I've done so many things in life, like in called, you purchased the gas station.

And the guy who sold us the gas station, I had a gut feeling. I was like, this guy is not open up. And, like, lo and behold, it almost cost us a $175,000 back when I was, like, twenty five years old. So you have to go with your gut, but I have I also validate Right? I don't have that as the end all be all. I'm gonna follow the gap, but I'm gonna use that twenty second rule. I'm gonna analyze it.

I'm listening to what you're saying, I'm thinking through all the different scenarios, and then I'm gonna make a decision. Strategically, it's about how it all fits into the landscape. Right? Are you ordering the steps and then does these steps make sense? Right? That's more of a more drawn out process. But as the day to day, you gotta be having quick decisions. You can't take too long to make a decision. And then if I always say to people, you rule number 1, inspect what you expect.

That's number 1. Inspect what you expect. Hands down. I'm a always give you that decision. And then I'm gonna inspect what I expect. Yeah. I do this sometimes, but for the listeners that follow along, you guys know this, but I want you to pause. I want you to rewind. And I want you to listen to the last 3 minutes, like, 20 times. I think that for the people who don't if you didn't hear that and know exactly that's what you're doing inside your business.

If there's any sort of qualms about how you can make decisions or how you can make decisions in 20 seconds. Or even before that, the stuff that he gave you before that, just stop. You need nothing further, pause, decisions are everything. Where you are today is based on the decisions that you've made, period, There is nothing further after that sentence.

So, literally, Adrian just gave you what you need in order to be able to make quality decisions with discipline, with toughness, with a history, building for yourself in confidence. Like, we talked about a few minutes ago, and you do that long enough, your accuracy gets good. That gut feeling that you're talking about, you start trusting it really tight. And and you make less mistakes. Doesn't mean that you don't make mistakes.

It just means you let make less which means you're making better decisions. Things are moving fast. We gotta go to the speed round here. I wanna ask you a couple questions here. The question that I always ask first is regarding one metric. So I want you to dial all the different things you got going on in real estate all the way down into 1 trackable metric is if you could only pick this one metric to track forever and ever. What would that one metric be? Man, so from a, like, a KPI perspective?

Are you talking dialed into the business? That's, like, the one trackable metric. However, you wanna define that. Man, I would the globally, I would of course, I'm gonna say the output, but I need to drill down on that. I think for me, is the speed of act Like, I need to measure the speed of action. Like, from the time Wolfe say yes to the time that something's implemented, because I'm gonna always be able to figure out where the bottleneck is between why we can't lose something.

Is it a person, a process, something along the line that's keeping us from moving this thing forward faster. And so by doing that, I'm gonna pull out what the issue is. I'm gonna be able to tell, hey. This is the issue. This is the cog in a wheel, why you can't go from doing something in 90 days when that's the expectation. You don't hit that mark. It's somewhere in that process. So I can do that on across something that is short term or long term.

If we didn't hit our 5 year goal, I'm a go along the process and see what was the people or process that had stopped it, kept it from moving forward at the pace that it needed to move. Because, again, everything in business and life is always changing. If you can't move fast in a methodical and analytical way, you're gonna choke with business. It's you have to evolve so fast. It's like going from myspace to TikTok.

If you don't evolve and change and move fast as you can move in a process and get your team to understand that that we don't wanna just move fast. We wanna move And to do this, back to your point, it's the constant practice of it. If you practice it, then your team can then position a reposition. If something comes up, If one one thing happens in our environment or in our business, we can pivot quickly and deploy.

We can be in 6 markets doing a different marketing strategy so long as we've been practicing moving at speed from first saying yes to the output. So speed the action. Hey. Again, what a quality answer? I'm just gonna move on to the next question. Chaz book would you recommend for a 6 figure business owner trying to get where you are? I think good one. What book would I recommend? And they're a business owner.

I would say, pro action actually did a lot for me from a business perspective, right, because you're saying that you need to move the things that you need to track and the minutiae of Right? Who has their rocks? Who's doing what? I think is more of the technical aspect in the mentality. Right? Yeah. Like a richest man in Babylon and all those books are great, but I think his really about tactical when you're in the 6 figure range.

Because if you're missing 7 figures, it's all in in what you're doing. Right? Yeah. You're not jumping from 6 to 7 because there's something wrong in your process somewhere. Yep. Yeah. That we like to call and gather the Kings. You haven't mastered the basics yet. Marketing sales, client fulfillment, finance, hit repeat. And if you can't do that over and over again, that's the only thing that's stopping you really from the 7 figure mark. There's a cog in the wheel, as you said earlier.

So I love Okay. Do you intentionally network or mastermind with other entrepreneurs? Yes. Yes. Why? Because I feel like the thing is it puts you in a position for me. It opens me up and sometimes make me think about things that I don't think about. So I intentionally network a more I I will make myself now, and this go goes back to that thing. When you start seeing something work, you'll get motivated to do it.

But when you meet, there's a group here that meets up in there, successful individuals, and it came about from talking to one person and then talking to another person. And then when you're putting rooms and places based off of just opening up opening your mouth, you're gonna you're gonna become intentional in doing it and saying that you know that you need to continue to do it no matter what level you're at. So now I'm definitely intentional.

Before I was like, man, this is what I posted to do, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes that's all you have to go off of until you've built the history Chaz we talked about. And when you can look back on that and realize Chaz Okay. I still not may not be a 100% certain, but I'm pretty certain that you're build you're building the history. Okay. I got a question for you Chaz wasn't on the list.

I'm a throw your curve if you only had 1 hour each week to work on your business, what would you do in the 1 hour to successfully run your business like you do now. What would I do in that 1 hour? That's the great question. For me, I think the thing is I would look if I only have 1 hour to successfully run the business with a it's what what are we working on? What is the That's always my question. What's next?

That's number 1. So I'm gonna look at what's next, what we're working on, what we need to do to make it happen, and then what type of or what personnel or technology do we need to get there? So I wanna analyze that in that 1 hour to figure out what's happening. Where do we need to be? Where does the business need to be this week across the board from sales, marketing, whatever? So I'm gonna ask that question. Then I'm gonna say, what is needed to get there?

And then I'm gonna say, what technology or personnel are we missing to get there? So I'm gonna quickly in that hour, just dissect, look at reports. I'm gonna look at where we are. I'm gonna look at where that missing is, and then I'm gonna say, okay. Here's where we need to go to move it to the next stage. So that's more of a tactical thing. I wouldn't be working on strategy per se.

I would be working on just tactical things from operations to figure out what we need to do to move the business forward. What's next? What's what's now? And what's what's are we missing? There you go. Love it. Okay. Last question here for you, Adrian. What would you do if you lost it all? Man, I've been in that situation. Right? So, literally, like, in the crash when I was in the mortgage industry, like, literally lost it all. Like, Wolfe, like, I got divorced. The business was crazy.

I had to move back to Charleston for a minute. And so I when I started over, if I were to start over again, which entrepreneurs, we know what to do when we have to start over. That's the benefit of going through Right. But it was just I would just understand what I need to the things that I need to work on right now to build something quickly. When I first lost everything, I wanted to get back into the mortgage just in a different complex and rebuild.

But if I lost it all now, the first thing I'm gonna do is look for the opportunity where I feel like I it's big enough in the space for me to operate. And then I'm gonna go, right, I'm gonna use the sales. We all have an aspect of sales. Some of us more technical than not. I'm gonna look at an industry that I can go after. That I can get in the sales arena of it and then take it from there. I'm gonna grow the business. I'm gonna make the calls. I'm gonna make the relationships.

And then I'm gonna pivot from there. And then I'm gonna pull in using my experience from sales Chaz a different team members are people that I need to make it happen. I think once you know what to do, you know what to do. Right? So that's what I would do. I would look for in the arena that I feel like there's growth in it. I would make the sales myself initially, and then I Wolfe put the team around me to to get us to the next level. I love it.

I love the just the energy that you bring to every little piece that you put into. I can tell that you're just a very intense individual. I respect it, actually, because I think a lot of people, even then or close to me, how would my wife would probably agree that that I'm intense. I think most entrepreneurs are pretty intense. It's just a matter of at what scale have we given ourselves permission to, like, really go for it and be really who were designed to be or the intensity of that.

And so I just see it in you, man. I just see I see full kingship in action. The intent city of it. I see. I just, man, I wanna run hard with guys like you because I know I'm a run faster, further, stronger. You know what I mean? Yeah. Why not? Why not? And why not? Exactly. Let's do it. Adrian, how can these guys find you? How can the listener connect with you today? Where can they locate you? How can they get to know you Absolutely. Of course, you can go to LinkedIn, Adrian L Smalls.

You'll see in my profile on a little blue blazer that's me, and you'll see the businesses underneath it. I'm In the Instagram, some, the Adrian smalls at on Instagram, but those are the ways that you can mostly, mostly find me through LinkedIn or through through his to get the gram Facebook. I think I need to create a follower because I'm always at 5 1000. Every time I go under, it goes back. So maybe I'll just do another page or something. But those are ways you can find me.

That's awesome, man. We appreciate just obviously the nuggets, but, dude, the intensity that you've brought here today has been incredible. Thank you for the valuable time, and I wish you nothing but success. We're gonna we're gonna do something together. I already know that I'm all in with with Adrian Small Yeah, man. And so am I. Let's do it. I'm with it. I appreciate you. I appreciate you having me. And keep digging for the Kings. Yeah. That's right.

Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself doing it all on and multiple different industries and now interviewing literally over 2 or 300 other very successful 789 figure business owners is that It's tough to do it alone.

And so gathering the Kings literally exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs. In fact, we are putting together 1 1000 kings, specifically who are grateful, but not done. We're intentionally assembling kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe Chaz in the pursuit of excellence in those areas, that it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy.

So if that relates and and resonates with you, and you know that you need people around you, sharp, qualified other very successful business owners. I want you to go to gathering the king's dot com. Once you take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit to 1000 kings, talk soon.

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