On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. Are we even friends if we haven't started talking to this to the others? Hey. You know what? I I don't know if I've heard that, but it that is I couldn't imagine a more true statement in my life. A listener right now who is unintentionally making it transactional, right, because it's not like you had a ill will towards your customers back then. Right. You were just going about what you knew. Right.
What can you share with them to, like, give them the Chaz they're not transcending the transaction? Or some things that they can be thinking about now, even though they may not feel transactional, but that maybe they are and they can elevate. You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars. From business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be.
We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the real of the real on what it takes to build a successful business today. Your picture of the journey of success and how you too can get there. Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe gathering the king's podcast.
I've got Noel Binderson here on the king stage. My brother, Noel. How are we doing? Hey, Chaz. Thanks for having me so much. Appreciate you. Yeah, man. Hey. I'm excited for this podcast. I'm always excited, but I'm specifically excited because We've kinda gone back and forth on this scheduling thing, and it feels like the forces were against us, but no more. No more. We finally connected Here we are. I'm excited to tell your story, man. You've got so you got a lot going on.
And needless, should I say you've been you've been highly blessed and favored. So I wanna get into your story. Tell us what kind of business or in this case, maybe businesses that you have. Yeah. So we have a lot of for profit businesses that are in the home service world. So we have a moving company, a roofing company, and a real estate company. And then we also live in the nonprofit world a lot. We've got a couple different nonprofits. One is actually tied to the brand of the 4 prophets.
K. So we're we help. We we're in Memphis, the Greater Memphis area, so we we serve Chaz this youth with that nonprofit. So that is tied to our for profit companies. Love it. A lot going on there and kinda sound like a little bit a little bit like me. With, like, a little bit of here, a little bit of there, a little bit of everywhere, but I also see how you're tying it altogether. And I think that you'll be able to paint a good picture for us, hopefully, by the end of this.
I wanna know before we get rolling, It's always my first question. I wanna know what the deep burning desire is for Noel. Like, I know that you're after this thing. You're a king. Brother, like, you just described all the cool things that you're doing for profit, nonprofit, but, like, really underneath it all. Mhmm. What's got you up at night thinking? Man, you know, I would I would say 2 things. 1, there is I'm a Christian, so I'm very big with my faith.
And there is a urgent spiritual need in this world that exists Yeah. Combined with a urgent physical need that exists in the world. So that's what keeps me up tonight, man. I wanted to know Jesus and make him known. And I see business is a mechanism that allows me to do ministry. So that that would be the big why. That would be the big purpose of what my life is about. You know, you said something that, you know, some of my listeners might be in alignment with might not.
I don't know, but you said that business, the platform, has given you a way to be able to serve the kingdom. And that could mean a lot of different things to a lot of different believers or Christians. So for you, particularly, what does that look like, or what does that mean for you? Cause I think that a lot of maybe people maybe listening who don't know what that means are thinking that maybe you're going around bible thump and everybody.
No. You know, so there's a couple different ways to look at it. On one side, some people view business as a way to fund the the mission. Sure. And on the other side, some people would view business as the mission. Yeah. And I would love to say that I try to live in the in both. So I think that god has given all of us different abilities and gifts and resources to use for his glory to best impact the Wolfe.
And so I think that you could do that through the business platform, but then at the end of the day, it takes money. It takes funding So you also have resources to fund missions and they need out there. So that's really what I mean by that. You know, it's it's a value system as Wolfe. So it's kind of the the foundation for what we do, for why we do it going back to who I am and and the purpose. So how to live it out, how to treat our customers with respect.
And so it's bigger than, you know, I I do go around cheer. About my faith a lot, but Of course. So It it doesn't look like what I had suggested at the beginning, and we're in alignment. And so people know this about me. Some people don't, but I'll just I'm gonna echo what you're saying is I've always seen business, or, really, you can categorize it as relationships, right, or just the way that we live And the way that we live can be done in a specific way where people go, that's interesting.
He has fill in the blank, and he did fill in the blank or whatever. Right? And so it's just the the different things that we can do or choose not to do or the order that we do things in or the excellent way that we do things. There's a lot of different formulas here. Yeah. But it's all unto creating, and then a desire to wanna know more because maybe unlike a, maybe quote, unquote, bible number, I wanna be able to be a mirror. Right?
I wanna be able to to to to look like the person that I'm trying to be like. Yeah. Know what I mean? I don't necessarily need to convince or persuade anybody. I just need to look like him. And if I do that, if I make choices and if I treat people in or out of my business in that way, in my family. And that's probably gonna cut through some of the noise. Would you agree with that? Definitely agree. I've got a really good friend.
As a nonprofit, and it's it's called icon, which means it's the the image of god. So we're we're made in the image of god, and we're reflect that image back to the world. So absolutely Yeah. Reward. Yeah. We can we can go down some rabbit holes, especially, you know, you just just opened up a can there of that were created in in his likeness because I I do believe that.
And I believe that, you know, here we are, 2 creators, like, literally creating businesses and and opportunities and building communities, all these things that that we get to do together, even though we're separate, but we're still in the in the in the world doing it is is exactly what he's like. You know? So I wanna go into some practicals here. We'll keep it, we'll kinda re re reframe here for business, but inside of the business or maybe pick 1.
Mhmm. I wanna know of a good decision that you made that you can look back on and you can go, okay. This one thing, maybe it worked in several of the businesses, but I was I just wanna know if something's super practical, and we'll take it from there. Yeah. And there's so many examples I could give I'll go back to the beginning, and this is kinda will Wolfe fall in the world of marketing and branding. So when we first started, the name of our companies are under the brand MITOWN.
So My town is a it's a declaration statement. It's intentional. We want to, you know, if you can apply it anywhere in any town, any anywhere in the Wolfe, Right. It's a it's a ownership statement of, hey. This is our town. We we live here. We work here. We raise families here. Take ownership of your town, the give where you live, type mentality. Totally. So Memphis, locally, our college is the Memphis Tigers?
And when we first started, our first company, which was MyTowne Movers, our logo looked like this the tiger from frosted flakes. And it was looking back, it's pretty comical. And I had a a really good friend who Chaz another company, and he had really great branding. He's like, you know, you need to meet with our marketing guy. And so we met and we rebranded our company. And that was a defining moment where we just a simple logo of the appearance of who we are.
We we switched it over to our new logo And from that moment on, I felt like it legitimized our business. People would ask, hey. Is this a franchise? Is this it was it was just that impactful So it would be one early on Yeah. Which is that we made. That was pretty impactful. Yeah. So okay. I mean, there's a lot under this hood here. So we're gonna try to see if we can go into some of these things.
But, of course, you've done this across multiple of your businesses, and I'm sure it's done the same effect. The legitimate the the legitimacy of not only the customer looking at you as a real deal place, but you also mentioned in there that for you, your confidence, your team, Like, all of Chaz, it just, like, raised the bar of, like, wow. Wow. This is who we are. You know? Yeah. Is is there the branding is a big topic. Like, yes, it's a logo.
Have you done any work, or would you suggest that the listener ties in some other things here? I'm thinking purpose statement, mission statement, you know, core values, like, any of those things, anything in addition to those things? Like, I wanna open up the can here with you. Yeah. With that, I mean, Even so we have all of all the brands are by town. So my town movers, roofing, properties, and then our nonprofit miracles.
Okay. Wolfe We we took that again, the whole the whole encompass of my town. My town, the brand, I would tell you Chaz miracles is really the purpose of the brand and the passion behind the brand. So, you know, I I I look Chaz we're we're more than a moving company or a moving company. Those are just things that we do and the services we provide, but they're not the why. They're not the bigger purpose because there's lots of really great companies that provide those services.
Yeah. So tying in the purpose, the value statements, things that we could communicate to potential customers, current customers, and our team. Hey. This is bigger than just a paycheck. So money is important, and we need that to survive and provide for our families, but always found that having the bigger why Man, it keeps you going during the hard times and the highs and lows. That's right. Really keeps you motivated.
What Wolfe you say to the guy or McGow who's listening right now and they've heard of, like, having a a brand, and they're a little uncertain about what that means. And you know, these other sub points, you know, the mission, the vision, and purpose, and maybe even core values, and, you know, the way that you operate your business, basically, towards your customers towards your employees at what you just said.
But they're they're wondering, like, how do I take a step towards that or It sounds really like emotional underneath. It's like, this is what we do. We're a mover, or this is what we do. We're the we're a roofer. But you're saying that it's about something deeper or, like, more emotional. How do you how do you connect those 2 if someone's listening right now and maybe they're a little uncertain about that?
Yeah. You know, in that, that's a tough question because different stages, I would probably answer that different. Right? If we're if you and I are gonna create a business, we would go a different direction of how we would answer that. If we're an existing, you know, business and we're we're thinking through that.
But at the end of the day, we're we're really for me, I wanna get to the why and the purpose the the intentionality of of the name and what it needs and how it looked and what you wanna communicate with the brand and a logo, I'll that's probably would be the direction that I would go and and answering a lot of those questions looking down the road beginning with the end in mind, so to say where it's gonna be, where I would go with that.
Yeah. Don't know if the listener heard, but I just heard you invite me into a partnership. What kind of business are we gonna do, brother? Hey. You know, what's that quote? Are we even friends if we haven't started talking to this together? Says, hey. You know what? I I don't know if I've heard that, but it that is I couldn't imagine a more true statement in my life.
People people have often asked you know, I hit I stopped the recording button, you know, and they're like, so tell me why you do this. Like, why are you doing this podcast? And I go, I get to meet you. Mhmm. And they're like, no. No. No. For real. I'm like, for real. I got to talk business with you for the last hour. It it was incredible.
And and, of course, obviously, that that stems into things you know, sometimes, sometimes not, but we'll keep it on the we'll keep it on the back burner for now. Never know. Let's flip the coin. Yeah. What was a bad choice? Bad decision. Something that we can stay away from. You caught some you caught some nasty bruises from that we can stay. Growing too fast without the right systems, processes, and leadership team in place.
So we were super grateful, a super I think would you say blessed the beginning and favored? And we grew pretty fast through relationships and our clientele to be able to say, hey. If Let's say we move you and your family, well, we can say, hey, Chaz, we we also have this company. Let us continue to serve you. So we've already developed that relationship. So we grew pretty fast, and we actually had another division that we shut down because we were so fast.
We had we got so many customers And we had 0 systems and processes, and our leader team was not experienced experienced enough and had the know how to to lead it. So that would be, you know, looking back, there's a lot of heartache and losses as you're growing companies and being a part of companies and and partnerships and things like that. So Right. Grow in too fast and and choosing who you're in business with. Those Wolfe be the 2 Biggest ones.
Yeah. You slipped that you slipped Chaz who you're in business with there at the end. Yeah. And so maybe we can chat about that. But my question for you about growth is what were the indicators along the way that the that the train was shaking and about to fall off that that you'd missed but you saw now, but you but you didn't see them. Man, let me give you an example. We we had a customer calls one day and said, hey.
You guys have been maintaining my property for about 6 months, and we have never gotten a bill from you. And so that, you know, talking about indicators, we were like, man, my goodness. We we we we didn't even have the right structure and system. To to to know that. So the the red flags like that would would be definitely an example and then not being able to keep up with labor and then mechanical issues of things going wrong. Those are those are some of the red flags that happened quite often.
The beginning. Yeah. Do you see or can you look back on now and think that, obviously, new customers, money coming in from sales, like, all of those things are really exciting and fairly easy. Right? You just you just you just sign them up. You just put them on the calendar. You just, like, there's a lot of excitement around that. That's the cool part about growth. Right.
But that it also blinds you from some of those things that you just mentioned, because everything you just mentioned was operations oriented. Right. Yeah. And what happens too is we if we're not careful and this happened to us, one brand, if you do poorly with a service with a customer, well, now it's affecting multiple brands. Yeah. And so that that we learn that as well how important it is. Every job, no matter the size, no matter the cost is just as important as the bigger ones.
And then and just read it once. So that that was one thing that really stood out that we learned from growing. Yeah. Yeah. You're you got a unique you know, model or because you're not looking for another new client over here. Of course, you are, but that same client you can serve in many ways, And so instead of niching in a specific type of client, you're really niching in a specific number of clients because then you can serve that number of clients across multiple services.
And so it's just a different way of honing or looking down on who exactly you're serving. So in that model, What I'm hearing you say is that relationships always matter, but particularly in yours, they, like, really, really matter because those same 100 or 1000 clients service multiple lines for you guys. Right. Exactly. And that's, man, that's so key. Just making sure you're valuing the the person, the relationship as as, man, these are real people. These are real families that you're helping.
And they're not a transaction. It's not just a transaction and a one time thing. And at the beginning, it was more transactional. And even unintentionally, maybe we didn't even think about that or know that as much as as we do now, but how important business is and the relationship side Yeah. Yeah. One last question here before we move on. That that transcend word does make a difference. We've used that word in many of our businesses. Transining the transaction, transcending the ticket.
You know, we can kinda catchphrase a couple of different things there, but my question for you is that for the listener right now, who is unintentionally making it transactional, right, because it's not like you had a ill will towards your customers back then. Right. You were just going about what you knew. Right. What can you share with them to, like, give them the Chaz they're not transcending the transaction?
Or some things that they can be thinking about now, even though they may not feel transactional, but that maybe they are and they can elevate. Yeah. Well, for me, being a part of the job of the jobs from the the labor side and the the actual Purdue whatever your service you're providing, I think that is super important. And at the beginning, we're we're heavily involved, and then there's a season where we weren't.
So you can kinda forget what it's like to be the customer and, and to be the employee that's serving the customer. So get deep in the business spend spend the spend the time and the days and and the, I know Chaz business owners is hard to to take that time It'd take a day off to go and be a part of what the service you're providing, but that would be one. And then talking to the customers and following up with them about how their experience was, what went well, what didn't go Wolfe.
You learned so much from doing that. And they're they will share with you gladly, they're they're typically don't share unless you ask unless it's a really, really bad experience or really, really good experience. Right. And so you're looking at if you're looking the scale from 1 to 10, people are gonna share if it's a 1 to 3 or if it's, like, a 9 or a 10. Yeah. But, like, a 4 to 8 you know, experience, they're not really gonna talk about.
And that sweet spot, you wanna talk to those people and turning those people into better experiences. And and you learn so much for me on that. Yeah. I love that. There was something I used to do with some of my retail franchises, especially with the ones that were in the city that I lived in or when I would go and visit, I would I would pop in at any random time or early in the morning, but it wasn't so much necessarily popping in on the crew, but it was popping in on the store.
Like, the actual building, and I would walk at the parking lot. And I would walk the front of the store, and I would as if I was gonna order something, like, I walked in and I looked up towards the menu and I just tried to be the customer. Mhmm. And so even, like, I love your point of asking the customer, but even just going through the process, being actually being the customer, what's visually stimulating? Where does your eyes go? What's what's there that shouldn't be there or vice versa?
What What what did you hope that was there that wasn't? You know, what was helpful? What wasn't helpful? So there's just so many things that you're giving right now that are just super valuable. Home service, retail, real estate, property. I mean, all of these things can be, implemented into these businesses. So anything you wanna add there before we move Man, no. I think that's that's great. That's that's I'll I'll love Chaz.
Just being a part, putting your, you know, it just comes down to putting yourself in their shoes and and their shoes and We don't do that enough because we're working on the business and in the business. And Right. We need to do that for sure. Yeah. We're stuck being busy. You know? Yeah. And so there's there's intentionality in what you're talking about. Because you're talking about going back down into the business and some someone might be saying, no. Don't work in the business.
Work on the business. And it's like, no. He's not going down in it to necessarily work the truck. He's gonna work the truck today because he's there, maybe. But while he was working the truck or while he was on the job site, he was being super intentional about paying attention or asking questions or, you know, all the things that we just gotta talk Right. Yeah. Exactly. A decision comes across your desk here.
2023. We're just tied on talking about making great decisions or how to or the learning opportunities from the the not so good ones. What's the formula that you use now to make it? Yeah. To make it decision, well, really, again, I'm I'm I I pray a lot. So my faith plays a lot of the role now, but I have I surround myself with wise counsel. So I've got people in my life that I a big decisions to and and wrestle through that and look at the pros and cons.
My wife, sometimes I'll bring her into some of those. She definitely has a gift of discernment. Yeah. Man, you know, I I wanna involve her in as much as possible too. So I really value her her opinion in Chaz. But, really, I'm I'm I'm Oh, well, I like to to look for win win wins. So it's gonna everybody is is that's involved. It's gonna benefit. It's gonna be try to avoid as much of the heartache and loss as possible Yeah.
When when making decisions and and really, you know, that that's That's kind of a simple I know it sounds so simple, but But so profound. To listen to that. That's the way it that's the way it rolls. It's simple, but profound. Wanna go to the speed round here. Noel, tell me about KPIs. I like to say it like this. What's the number one thing that you would track if you could only pick one thing?
I would say, oof, My sales marketing side wants to track conversion and closing and booking, but the relational side, man, I I go back to the customer experience. I would really I I would wanna track that the most. Yep. You know, they're they're how their experience was because that is the Chaz that shows everything. That shows how the operations going. That's gonna show future sales and growth. That's gonna show how the employees are feeling valued They enjoy their work.
That I I think that at the end of the day, that the service you're providing the end, the customer, they're gonna tell you how your business is doing based off of experience. So Chaz that would probably be the main one that I would wanna track. Yep. There's so much value in that, but even going back to our talk a few minutes ago about your model specifically, I think that it's it's applicable to all businesses.
But, you know, if you've got a a smaller group of of people serving It's really, really important to serve them well. It's important to serve them all well. Don't get me wrong, but you gotta pay really attention. So you're obviously very good at that. What about a resource or a book or a podcast, something like that that you'd recommend that you've enjoyed over the years? That's one of the most can grab and and grow their business, grow themselves.
Is this where I say, man, Chaz, gathering the king's body? It's the point of this opportunity. Well, you know, if if you've been listening, then you would feel that way. I don't know. Have you? Hey, man. I have listened to some episodes. They're really good too. I appreciate that, man. I appreciate it.
Yeah. On, but, you know, I I Wolfe tell you I I I keep coming back to this because it's so important in my life, but the Bible, whether no matter your face background, it's got the answers to everything. It's got all the wisdom. It's got all the ethics, the morals, the Right. Decision making. It's the secret sauce. That I would say. So that would be priority 1 in the face side, but I do have a rotation that I try to have each month.
Where I read 1, I'm always reading the Bible since the daily thing, but then I read one book that is related to faith and then I read another book that's related to business. So kind of constantly having that where I'm trying to read 1 or 2 buck books a month. Yep. And and then, you know, on my drive, so I listen to different podcasts and things. Any anything particular that jumps out as far as one of those favorites that you recently read or one from the past? I've been on the season.
A lot of the ones I've been doing are ministry related, so not as much misrelated, even though I think they all overlap and apply. Yeah. Wolfe, what while I'll give you Wolfe, I'll give you 2 seconds here to to think about one. I'll tell you of a somewhat ministry related book that I just read. You know, that actually was recommended by a business guy to another business guy. So it it stemmed from a business conversation, but the root of the issue was not business related.
It's called experiencing father's embrace by Jack Frost. Oh, man. Yeah. Familiar with that, but it was an incredible book. And, basically, what it comes down to is that we're achievers most likely because we got some wounds. And we gotta work through that. We gotta figure out what what the heck we're doing. And so it's a pretty pretty incredible when you have a different perspective of what the father's heart really is about. And so Did that buy enough time to come up with a recommendation?
Well, again, I get to create 15 ministry runs, but what are the red extreme ownership? I'm sure. Yeah. Great book. That one. Love that. Love, you know, the wisdom in in there. Take it from the military. Leadership principles, who is the, like, an incredible organization of leadership. I really enjoy that one. That's probably one of the most recent. Good stuff, man. Okay. Got a question for you about family. This was a little bit of a surprise question here, but Okay.
Entrepreneurs, what I have found is that we're successful because we're obsessed. Like, this is just what we do. We obsess and then we make things happen. But I'm not a fan of the word balance. I like work life obsession. So following along this lane of work life obsession, I believe that being obsessed with my wife or being obsessed with my children or being obsessed with my faith or being obsessed with whatever Mhmm.
Alongside of my business is what's gonna help me be successful in those areas just like it does in my business that all the business looks telling me to be. So my my question for you is, how have you done that even practically? Mhmm. With family, kids, other organizations? You have nonprofits like a lot of things you got you're involved with. How do you obsess over all of it at the same time? Yeah. So, man, that's a great question. For me, I guess that comes naturally.
Because I come from a broken home. So for me, man, that's like, I wanna pour everything into my family. So I make them the center of of everything of of, you know, I bring them into work things. They they spend sometimes all let him skip school and spend the day with me and just go to work with me. I love that. On our nonprofit side and the ministry side, we we will bring in we're we're very guarded with our calendar. We try to get at least 5 or 6 meals around a dinner table as a family.
Some each week, Yeah. And I'll bring them into conversations of, hey. Who do we help? Here's here's all these people. Let's pray about it. Let's let's figure out Right. And let the kids speak into Chaz, tells them stories about who we're helping and what's going on. So they're really involved. To Chaz. That's I'm super intentional with that. And and that's been that's been a way for me to keep aligned and and focused. Yeah. It's good, man. It's good.
I think that that I haven't met one single entrepreneur who hasn't answered that question with I'm working on it. Right? Like, you've got some great stuff.
I've got some great stuff that I follow, but I think that we would both if we're being honest for the listeners is that even though we might be obsessed with our family and we're both it sounds like we're both extremely intentional about that time and the things that we're building into our families and and children specifically, it's it it takes intentionality focus, attempts it takes effort. Yeah. It does. So it really does. What do you think about intentionally since we're on that word?
Master mining or networking with other entrepreneurs. Man, I I love that. I do that a lot. It's it's so valuable to learn from other people in different industries. Yep. It's it's funny too because it makes you feel like, man, we all pretty much have the same issues and problems and challenges. It's just different of who we're serving and how we're serving them. That's right. But it's good, man. You you need a circle of influence.
It's gonna call you up and raise your your standard of excellence. That's right. I I really believe in who you surround yourself with. You're gonna be that average. So I I think that's very important of of you know, specifically people that are on the same trajectory Chaz Yep. Everything that you're talking about, they they care about being a good husband. They care about being a good father. They care about being a good leader. They care about providing to the community.
So if you're constantly gathering with people like that, they're gonna elevate you gonna call you up and serve you. Yeah. Yeah. I I the the specifics of those things that you mentioned, I agree with it. It can't just well, It can be, I guess, for some, for me, which it sounds like very similar to you, it's not let me just get with somebody who has a lot of money, or let me get with somebody who's a great dad. Or get with somebody.
Like, I I wanted to I want to get with people who are trying to do all of those things. You know? And I think it's actually the uniqueness about an entrepreneur is that for guys like you and I, even more so, because we have multiple different businesses, regardless, even if the guy only has Chaz, or a lady only has 1, then they then they have their family, then they have their spouse. And then, like, there's just a lot going on in an entrepreneur's life.
And and it looks completely different than pretty much anybody that walks the face of this planet. Yeah. So I think that the value there, what you what you were very, very specific about is who I would wanna spend time with. I think that that's spot on, actually. So I'm an encouraged listener to heed to your advice on that. I got one last question here for you, Noel. Are you ready, my brother? Let's do it. If you could whisper in the younger Knowles ear, what would you say?
How young are we talking? You name it. What was the exit popped in your mind? Man, I I would I would I would I would say probably the beginning of the business Wolfe. For me in the journey is that, man, you know, god is always faithful. I've been at the highest of highs and the lows of lows. And we've always been okay. We, you know, it doesn't mean you don't have to work. It doesn't mean that it's not gonna be challenging, and there's not gonna be a lot of heartache and loss.
But at the end of the day, if I could just, you know, constantly remind and everybody out there listening, to know that you're gonna be okay, and it is gonna be okay. And as long as you keep working as hard as you can and pursuing that, that that you're you're gonna be fine. So, man, no matter how many times you you you say that, the moment that trials come, my knee jerk reaction is made with what's going on.
And, you know, if you're not careful, you could feed your mind with all these negative things. And, man, so that's what I would say. Just to keep that on the forefront. So, like, I'm gonna I'm gonna I I lied. That wasn't my last question. I'm sorry. The the intriguing part of this, like, I appreciate that perspective. It is such a good word, and I hope the listeners pay any attention. No actually, no matter where they are in business.
They could be even further beyond us and and still heed to that same message. So I usually appreciate that. But how are you, particularly right now, instilling that same thing, a, in your children, b, in your team members, see in your community through your businesses and or nonprofit. So kind of a threefold question there, but same question. How are you helping other people. Because it sounds like that I mean, I just rolled right off your tongue. You knew it.
And it and I know the message of his faithfulness. So it's like, okay. Yes. You've been up. You've been down, but, like, How what does that look like as you're showing that to your Yeah. Well, for my children specifically modeling it, it's more more caught than taught. So you can you can talk about it all day long, but they they're gonna model what they see. And they're gonna live out more of what how you live in your home.
Yep. So you're trying to model it out again, giving some examples of, you know, letting them skip school and come just be with me. Yes. Right. Meetings with me and seeing it and then really sharing sharing hard times and being more rural. I don't do that a ton because I believe that You know, as the leader of the home, I don't wanna I don't want them to have to carry the weight and a lot of things that that we are designed to to lead and carry. So I probably would share more victories Yeah.
Coming on the other end of troubles just for them to always be hearing see stories of god's faithfulness and what working hard leads to. So that would be one one way I I journal to my my boy specifically. So I've got two girls and 2 boys. And whenever I I I think of it quite often, my goal is to hand them a Bible and it's a journaling Bible and to have all the pages of different days and just speaking life lessons and and wisdom into them.
So when they turn 18, I can get it through, and my wife is doing the same thing for our daughters. Wow. But that's another practical practical way that, usually do that Saturday morning every Saturday. That's awesome. Well, I'd I just appreciate that. I've heard of Diring or note taking at the end of each day or at the end of each week. Specifically unto a child. Right?
And, actually, it was when I heard that, I've never been one to wanna sit down and write out But when I heard someone else give this perspective of writing it, like, unto your children or as a guidance or a not really, like, a recording of the day, but on to, like, a something that can be given. I think it changes the perspective. Also, the the the intention, right, of, like, oh, man. I get to produce something that my that my son or my daughter's might really hold dear generations past.
And so I think that that makes it pretty deep, which is pretty cool. No. What a way to end. I feel like I have, like, way more questions, but I'm gonna selfishly do that after we hit the record button. Sorry listeners, but in all seriousness, How can they find you? Number 1, if they are in your area and need moving roofing. Like, go down the list again. Help us understand the services that you have. Yeah. We can find you. And then also, how can they just reach out to you?
Maybe they wanna pick your brain and and how you do things. Yeah. Absolutely. So we're we serve the greater mid south met this area. And my town movers, my town roofing, and my town of properties are the for profit, my town miracles, is the nonprofit, and that is we provide, you know, security and stability to children in the Aderm of his area. And then I'm just my name, Noel Fenderson. I'm on the Facebook and Instagram black forms as well. Love it. Love it, man. Love it, man.
There's so much more to come, but thank you for being here, brother, and just blessings upon blessings on your family, all of your businesses, your community, everything that you put in your hand to. Thank you for being here. No. Thank you, Jess. Thanks for having me. Same same to you. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today. Hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away.
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