On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. You don't wanna see anybody's struggle, and you wanna be able to help when you have to. And, you know, do you need 7 figures? Do you need all this income to do that? No. You don't, but it's a lot easier. Right? It's a lot easier. Everybody is a lot happier. Less stress. Less stress means you live longer. You live a happier. Help life.
You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars. From business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the real of the real on what it takes to build a successful business today.
We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along the way Chaz giving true and accurate picture of the journey and surrounding yourself with power players and kings like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up everybody? Chaz gathering the king's podcast. Today, I've got RJ De Leon here on the king stage. My brother, how are you? I'm great. Great to be here, Chaz. Man, I appreciate you being here.
You know, I always kinda have a little commentary here at the end. Always have a little good, you know, good little amount of fun with with my guests before we get rolling. And and the fun today with you is rolling that last name, that daily. Yeah. I like it. I like He says it better than me, folks. Hey. You gotta take name seriously. They mean something. Okay? So yes. But it but in all seriousness, RJ, what kind of business or businesses, in this case, do you have?
Yeah. So jump right into it, I guess. I'm a real estate professional. So I started with investing in small multifamily properties, scaled up to a couple of syndications. And because of that necessity of the construction component, I started a construction company, the company is what allowed me to leave my w 2 job. And, I tell everybody, real estate's a gateway drug, Now I'm in investing in all different aspects spaces, capital raising. We just closed it out at capital raise.
For a Canvas cultivation facility. So it's super Wolfe. Yeah. Nice. And is that a is that a new trajectory, a commercial space, or is that just a project that came across the desk that is was too good to pass? So it was an opportunity that came across the desk, but really, honestly, did have a passion or an inkling towards that industry. Obviously, it's like it's like alcohol coming out of prohibition. Right? It's brand new shiny object.
And for you to be able to get in on the private side, that's an opportunity you don't wanna pass up. So, actually, my best friend is best friends with the operator who has over a decade worth of experience, and we're looking Chaz have being a $100,000,000 company by then 2023. So I jumped on that bandwagon. Yeah. How can you pass that up? And and, like, I looked how said, but real estate was the gateway.
It obviously has given you access to other not only it sets, but but opportunities then to use those skill set. So I'm you probably developed quite a bit of, you know, just opening up construction company, investing into other types of businesses, takes due diligence, and other types of mindset. So I'm excited to kinda peel out some nuggets from your history here. Before we get into your story, my first question always is I mean, you're a young guy too. Like, you've been doing this.
You've been building this. You've been doing some big deals. Yeah. You've got a good amount of change. And you're still gonna do it. You're still pressing hard. Why not just take the 4 hour work week and just retire on the beach? Well, you know, at the end of the day, it's family. It's spending time with the family, and it's your comfort level. Right? Because you build a standard of living that you wanna live that it takes to live comfortably. So Yeah. Are we there?
Yeah. We could be there, but, you know, we wanna be much more comfortable than where where we are at, but also at the same time, there's family members, you know, grandma, grandpa, mom, dad's, people that did not, develop the mindsets that we have or haven't developed the type of businesses we have Right. That may not be in the best position when they're retiring. So those are all family people that we wanna take care of. We don't ever really wanna worry about money.
And, of course, like he said, we could retire, but there's always the bigger, bigger goal your focus out there helping others, myself, family, and then philanthropic reasons as well. So Yeah. I mean, obviously, just just take us a second layer of deep you know, family. You mentioned, you know, parents, grandparents. Give us a little bit of that plus the philanthropy view. Like, why why is that so close to your hearts?
Sure. So in the Filipino culture, it's actually up to the children to take care of the elders once they are of age to stopped working. It's just, you know, in our culture. So whether or not I even knew about that when I was younger, it's sort of expected and I could hear it out of the talk tracks and my mother, not so much my father, but, you know, it's one of those things, whether or not Chaz was even expected. You always wanna see your family in a good position. Right?
You don't wanna see anybody's struggle. And you wanna be able to help when you have to. And, you know, do you need 7 figures? Do you need all this income to do that? No. You don't, but it's a lot easier. Right? It's a lot easier. Everybody is a lot happier, less stress, less stress means you live longer, you live a happier healthier life. So Yeah. I'm curious from a cultural perspective, is it like I did my dues as a parent?
I took care of you when you couldn't take care of anything when you had no income and and you needed your high knee wiped Now it's your turn to take care of me. Is that kind of the mindset? I, you know, I don't know diving too deep into the culture. I just know it's a thing. So, you know, quite possibly, I I know we're not the only culture that that is like that, but Sure.
Sure. Yeah. A lot of learning lessons with my family, and, you know, definitely wouldn't trade that because that's where where and why I am today. Yeah. So, yeah, I I I can hear. I mean, obviously, I'm not Filipino, but I, hey, was raised by a single mom. And there's been times where, you know, the the language of, you know, and and and and it was so true for her of, like, I sacrificed so much, right, early on.
And even still now, I would say she's she just is such an incredible giver there's there's not like an expectation necessarily, but there is, you know, like Yeah. Hey. I I, you know, you you you needed me, and and then I'm gonna need you, which, you know, that Chaz, I guess, that's what families for, like you said. So the reality of that is is that whether we pick up that mantle or not is kinda what it what it leaves. Right? Yeah. Exactly. Alright.
So my first question to you is more so random history. I wanna know the opportunity that you had to, like you said, mention, like, left your w 2 job when the construction started. Maybe you wanna talk about how you guys started in real estate. I wanna know the beginning ish. Sure. Would be like, how did you become an entrepreneur? So I Always wanna be an entrepreneur, even from high school. I always remember thinking of different businesses.
I wanna start a who could shop, and then I wanna do house flipping when I was, like, sixteen. Sure. Real estate always had a calling on my ahead of calling for me. So Fast forward a few years. I never really had an idea of how to direct that energy. Nobody really ever taught me. I had no mentors. I had I was really lost in what I was gonna do, how I was gonna do it. I I just had big goals, dreams, aspirations. And everybody's always like, yeah. It's RJ.
Yeah. He wants to be a millionaire someday. You know? Yeah. And, like, no matter how I got there, I I knew I wanna run my own business. So, right, fast forward, I had goals in steps. I started creating goals when I was inadvertent goals. So I was unhappy. I was a real estate accountant. I I hit my education and accounting, but I was a bartending manager. Bartender. So when I was in accounting, I was real bored. Nobody was calling on my name. I didn't wanna be there.
I wanna be outside client facing. And they put a glass ceiling on me. So Yeah. Went to sales, met my beautiful, amazing Wolfe. And she said, let's do real estate. And I said, alright. Let's do it. Start educating. And that's really where that focus came in. It was Yeah. It was really understanding that we gotta build something bigger. She had large steams goals aspirations, and I said, Yes.
I will follow you down this pathway, and we ended up buying our first property together 8 months into the relationship, and it hasn't been smooth sailing since, but I'm taught a lot. Right? We're we're a new couple. We're new to business. We have high financial expectations. The new industry is so it's a little Wolfe. It was a little crazy.
And the reason I made that comment at the beginning about real estate to gateway drug or a gateway to other investment opportunities is because learning about real estate, learning about investing, Learning about money management. All that came from real estate. All of it came from understanding the business real estate. And then the networking to stay alive, to stay afloat, to keep growing, the networking's what brought other opportunities Right. Right. So that's where we're at.
Yeah. I love that perspective that you gave with your wife of you I'm I had this picture that you were talking about, like, these are 2 incredible high profile people coming together. And and it can be magic. It could also be a fireworks show. And it was for a little bit. It's not all roses and butterflies. It's not all rainbows. That's right. That's right. You know? I would agree.
My my wife, although not in the business necessarily, strong willed, Italian, opinionated, and passionate individual, And and and and and and it's it's good because high drivers, I think naturally high drivers are gonna be maybe drawn to the opposite like we always are, and and that's a you know, a doormat for lack of better terms. And Yeah. I was thankful that, in this case, it was, you know, a little bit of a fire show for me as well a little bit.
And it still is on the occasion, but we're 15 years in. And it's like, man, if I had had anybody less, strong. I there's no way I could have become stronger, you know, and become all that I have been, and then also that I still hope to become. So I think that we're in alignment there for a wholeheartedly agree with that. Definitely. And the aspirations and ambitions getting bigger and bigger. And the core focuses of that is family and going along the journey together. Stuff. Yeah. You're right.
Let's let's talk about the early days. And, again, you can use the early days because I know you know, you're still within the 1st year of your construction company. So I think it's actually super applicable. So depending upon where you wanna use your experience here.
I wanna draw upon a good choice that you've made in business, your real estate construction, investing, whatever, Chaz you can catapult or that you can look back and you can see that it catapulted you, something that you can share that's super practical for the listener here. Sure. And it goes to that age old saying of your net worth is your net or your net worth is your net worth. Yeah. A 100%.
That is true and true no matter what business you're in because my business wouldn't have catapulted if I wasn't continually networking continually out there, shaking hands, putting my face out there, making myself vulnerable, you know, when you're new and you don't know much being honest open with the communication there, you know, people wanna help those that they see are making an effort to become something better. So, yeah, that's yeah, a 100%. But I do have to correct you.
The construction company is coming up on 3 Oh, okay. Good. Okay. So I misunderstood. Even better. Even better. So it's not it's not to fresh, fresh, but you're still, you know, you're very much in the building process. Yep. So I love that. Okay. So tell me tell me the moment in time or maybe maybe the the thing that you went through that gave you that that mindset, that epiphany.
So, really, it had to do with the first book I ever read, the first book I picked up after decades of not reading, and it was it sounds like my story. It was mindset by Carol Duque. Yeah. And it was the difference between the growth and fixed mindset and realizing the fact that everybody has both and it's a constant struggle to recognize and change when you realize you're in a fixed mindset. So Chaz really opened up the box to Wolfe reflection.
How many times in my past have I have I been telling myself I can't do something because some type of limiting belief, whether I heard it from somebody else or I see how difficult the journey is you know, the battles are already lost before I fought the war because I told myself I can do something. And Oh, true.
So, you know, that a mindset book led to this, you know, fruitful relationship with education, self care, reading, I'm now reading, you know, a few books at a time, and I've read not hundreds of books, but I've, you know, been reading handful of books. I'm actually my feet are resting on up about 6 of them right now. Right on the next deck. Yeah. Right. Exact. That's awesome. I I relate to that as well.
And I think that, you know, in today's world, you know, I've had some guests on here Chaz, especially when later in the show, I asked for the book recommendation. They say, I don't I don't read. The reality is this is, look, we can talk about education. You know, I'm a big fan of education, but I'm a college dropout. I slept through high school. I had zero interest. In learning any of what they were talking about.
But Yeah. As soon as I grabbed ahold of the things that moved the needle, they act actually grew me, changed me, all the things that you're just talking about, then it it I became a fiend. And so it it's not it's not education that's wrong. It's the the process of how we're learning or even maybe what we're learning. So Yeah. Books, audible, podcasts. Hey. I hear those pretty good. And and it's about changing our mindset.
It's about opening it to a possibility, to the way others think, to how we can grow, change, develop, reach for something another level of ourselves. Right? Absolutely. Yes. If we flip the coin, RJ, on that decision making, what would you say is a bad decision that you've made. You know, that that's really tough because I'm I'm one of those yes men. Right? So There's nothing really that I've said yes to you Chaz has bent me in the ass. K. Sorry for the language there.
But I would almost say it it's relationships for me sometimes. It's a bad choice with some of the relationships I choose or how I decide where they rank in in the hierarchy of my relationships. Yeah. Yeah. Because it it's actually a strength and weakness because I'm open to creating relationships with everybody. I tend to wear my heart on the sleeve, and I make a lot of emotional base to cisions. That makes me very approachable, very empathetic.
It allows people to understand who I am, but it also opens up the possibility of me getting burned. And I have been burned and, you know, backstabbed and people that I thought I could rely on, I couldn't rely on or, you know, in the early days, you know, just wanting to be somebody's friend because I'm their friend, but realizing they're actually a detriment to my business or to my future. So that has actually that is both a positive and a negative fee, but now it's stored in adjustment. Right?
It's a learning experience. You start to stand, no. You you build up a little bit of walls, a little bit of boundaries. You do a little bit heavier vetting. Well, in my younger years, I was very quick to open up, very quick to think everybody was my best friend or everybody had this stain, great intentions for me. Yeah. So, I mean, really, that's it. And then sometimes just following blindly, I guess. So yeah. You said at the beginning, yes, man.
You've said now, following blindly, those are similar. Yeah. Being being captured by maybe a bigger personality or bigger profile. Yeah. I mean, like you said, there's a there's a give and take to that. Right? Like, what do you feel like you've gained from being that? And then I wanna know what you feel like you've lost.
Like, give me a specific, maybe one of those whatever I gained Wolfe, I've gained a lot of partnerships, a lot of great partnerships, actually, and a lot of doors have opened by being that my myself, my true Wolfe. And putting myself out there. And I've been burned because I've had a lot of bad partnerships. I have had a lot of partnerships that didn't work out, you know, people that maybe not pull their weight all the way.
And, you know, I'm pulling the project through, and they're gaining off my back type type deal. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so there there's a huge learning experience there, and that's why I say it's a strength a weakness, you you meet a lot of great people, but sometimes it does bite you in the butt, but everything's learning, everything you grow from your mistakes, and just to look at everything is learning a 100%. I love it. What process or maybe discipline do you have now around decision making?
So maybe it's a new partnership. Maybe it's a business decision. Do we advertise here? Do we not? Do we take on this project? Do we not? Like, how do you make decisions now? Well, my wife and I are very much in the business together. I am still the yes, man. I see opportunities, and I I want to jump in head first with a lot of different things So she's the yint of my yang where she thinks more rationally. Umotional. She's more rational and methodical. So It's a perfect match.
So our decision decision making really comes from the opportunities that we find together and then sitting down and vetting it out regardless of what it is. You know, you always gotta create that pros and cons list. You gotta create the budget. You gotta see where it fits. In your financial future.
And then you got to look beyond the immediate, right, because, like, running a business, a lot of times, the problem is people always see things as an expense, and it's just a dollar amount that's taken away from the bottom line. So it's hard for them to hire that person. It's hard for them to pay for a website to be built. So a lot of people are trying to save the pennies, but missing out on the dollars because they don't wanna spend up front. So that's still a process.
No matter who you are, you're still gonna go through Chaz, and you're still gonna make bad decisions and or maybe not bad decisions, but you're still gonna make decisions that may not play out the way that you see fit. Exactly. So it's just a cost of business. And That's what a lot of people have to learn. You gotta learn that there is a cost business no matter what level you play at. Yeah. Yeah. It was funny.
I had the same conversation with a family member the other day, and they learned that I paid a $30 fee for something. And they just were flabbergass. Oh my gosh. You let them charge you a $30 fee. And, I I had to explain to them the convenience factor for me of the way that that transaction was completed, it it allowed me to be in another place and doing multiple things at one time. And $30 or $300 or $3000 or 30,000.
It just add the 0. I have to calculate those decisions in that moment of whether it's worth my time, whether it's worth the effort? Is there a return? Is this a type of thing where I'm I'm expecting leads? Am I expecting dollars back? Am I expecting relationships? What am I You know, what am I getting here? Because you're right. We've got we've all got things to to spend money on. Yep. And you gotta you gotta be able to play those choices. Not all of them make you money.
My my best friend, to give an example, back when we're, you know, my best friend was working as first corporate job. I was still in college. And I used to ask someone, like, why are you going to 7 11 to buy those things? You know, it's like a dollar cheaper. At, like, jewel or at a grocery store. And he's like, man, it's a convenience fee. Like, Yeah. This is the easiest for me. I I don't have time to be driving all over town to save a couple pennies.
Yeah. I I I've never really understood that until, you know, you start making your own money. And then I'm like, holy crap. He is right. Yeah. It's true. It's the same. No no matter how many zeros, like you said. Yeah. The the value there is on time. And I feel like it's a huge part of this, what we call this warrior to king transition. And in We all go through it. And and a lot of my guests have already gone through it. Some are in the process of going through it.
You know, there's almost like warrior king, like, double you know, I'm coming out of the daily, you know, I got the blood on the sword. I'm hot and sweaty from the battle. Selfish. I can only do the X's and the o's, but but the the this king stage is is more so about building and and teams and leadership and mindset and Right. Your relationships, leveraging time, leveraging resources, all these things. And so I I calculate first, does that make sense for my time?
And and if it doesn't, I I I I have to say no. Otherwise, I'm doing my, myself, a disservice, and I'll tell you, you know, the listener I I've been the person to fight that the longest because I'm super capable, and I move fast. I can get a lot of stuff done. And I can I can do a lot of the little tasks on my way to the big task? I can make the big decisions, and I can do the little things. I'm detailed. I'm happy.
Like, And if anything, that killed me for a really long time because I I didn't wanna give it away because I didn't need to give it away. So I thought, but, man, time time is is is everything. Yeah. Exactly. That convenience convenience fee becomes no big deal. Yeah. Even though that it continues to to continues to roll up, oh, yeah. Okay. Wanna transition here, speed round. I got a couple different ways. I'm gonna come at you a little different. The first question is this.
If you could take your entire business, actually, multiple businesses. I know it's kind of like all conglomerate bring it down into one trackable metric. What is it? Oh, that that's a tough one. I I think he got me there. 1 trackable metric, 1 KPI for all the businesses we're in today. Yeah. If you can only pick 1. It's good. It is real good. I don't know. The listener here is getting real lifetime.
Some of my guests like I told you ahead of time, RJ, some of my guests look ahead on the questions some don't. I love these moments because it's making you think, and it's real. It's vulnerable. So I I I want you to I want you to I want you to give us your answer. I'll I'll think about it. You guys you guys welcome the silence. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. And then I'll circle I'll circle I'll circle back to it. How about that?
Yeah. Good. I what book would you recommend Chaz of 6 figure business owner read? So currently, I would always say mindset. And and, you know, I have a calling yearning to that that is just beginning out the entrepreneur or need get over a hump, you need to be able to tell yourself that you could do anything and make sure to snap yourself out of the fixed mindset. Yeah. It's so true. I actually agree with that.
You know, like, a lot of books people recommend about tactics and and, you know, course marketing sales is how you grow a business from the beginning, but I'll tell you what, the hundreds of books that you and I have read together, I guarantee a lot of it of the reason why we are where we are, especially with our backgrounds. It's mindset. Yep. 100%. K. If you only had 1 hour each week, to work on your business. How would you use that 1 hour to successfully run your business like you do now?
Probably not working because that 1 hour to work on that business is not working. It's a who, not how. You know, figuring out who's gonna come into the business, help you scale the business, who's gonna be the next 6 figure clients, 7 figure client, You got a network. You gotta put yourself out there. You know, I became a a $1,000,000 revenue business. We'll be doing a $1,000,000 a year. I did that all through networking. None of it has been any advertising. It's all networking.
And, yeah, and I love I love what you've done too because, obviously, you've done it in multiple sectors now too. You know? So it what what can be done in in one business can be done in another? A lot of times, people don't try to jump over and do it in another, but it's the same process. And so you're in the process of of multiple, you know, at this point. So I I just think that that's it takes a certain certain desire to wanna do that. It takes a certain level Chaz. We're being honest.
I can say that because I'm the same boat. Yeah. It it's tough, but all those opportunities came from networking. I definitely, a 100% would not be anywhere close to where I am if it wasn't for networking. From the guys I work with the the partners I have on the syndications, the accessibility Chaz the cannabis deal, it all came from networking. Being genuine and being who I am. And, you know, like I said, taking advantage of the of the opportunities when they present themselves.
K. What's that one metric that you're gonna dwindle the entire business down into? Oh, man. You see, I I wanted to cop out and say networking. K. Yeah. Well, You know, on honestly, so the way that we look at our businesses is the cash on cash return, just how much are you investing into the business versus how much returns you're getting based on that investment. And it could be even if it doesn't cash flow today, maybe the overall equity multipliers on the exit.
So I'm thinking very much like a real estate professional right now. You know, purchasing, acquiring, stabilizing, what are the cash flows, and then what are your overall IRRs on the building? So maybe it's internal rate of return. There you go. That's good. You're not married to it. You can change it, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to get the mindset of of a of a growing entrepreneur. And and you'd be surprised. A lot of different answers. Last question for you, RJ. Are you ready?
Yeah. Hit me if you lost it all. What would you do with you know, I'd take some time to myself. Make sure that I was comfortable with the losses. We're comfortable with myself, not the losses. The losses are already lost. Right? So make sure that I was in a healthy spot. And that I reflected on the situation to understand what I did wrong and why it was lost and then rebuild an empire bigger and better based on the mistakes that I made.
So and that all goes to self reflection, learning off your mistakes, and then continuing with a positive mindset, telling yourself that you can rebuild. You can build something bigger. You could be do something better. And then, you know, just getting the support from your from the people that actually support you because sometimes there's snakes in disguise. Yeah. Lots of what the snakes in disguise are wolves and sheepskin. Right? Is that the same?
Exactly. So I I I just so appreciate that perspective and just that little sign out there. I wanna give you one more opportunity here because you're you're literally right now, you're you're on a run rate in a whole new business, yep, to do seven figures like you just said a few minutes ago. And I just so appreciate that. I there's the first thing.
One of the very first things I to you when we when we hopped on the call before we hit the recording button is that when when someone not only sees an opportunity, I'm already doing a thing. And and the opportunity doesn't have to be, like, so starkly different like I did. I in fact, I wouldn't recommend that. What RJ does, he just he did did it in a similar vein. Right?
Now I'm I'm definitely more like RJ where I'm I'm trying to find new opportunities in similar veins, but he saw an opportunity, and then he's run with it. He's developed a whole other company, just like you, the listener. Right now, you're trying to build this sent for your business. You have already a run rate to complete it. You know you're gonna get it done. What's the one thing you leave the listener with inside of this endeavor? Right?
What's the one thing that you leave them with that they may or may not have so that they too can build that sun for your business. So it's a cop out, but it's never giving up. It's been the consistent theme of our message It's your mindset learning from your mistakes Chaz ever giving up. It's a whole cartoon that it's actually It's been a big proponent of my life lately of the the minor who's about to strike you know, all the diamonds, and he gives up and walks away.
And that the minor, the cartoon of minor blow ohms, full full steam ahead and needs to spoutate that cold. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna add one thing on there because you're so right. Especially guys that You know, most likely you're listening today, maybe you only been in business a year, 2, 3, 5, 8, less than 9% of all businesses do a $1,000,000 or more in revenue. And a lot of what RJ's talking about right now, the stick to itiveness to get it done, is what makes it happen.
Obviously, there's a whole lot of mindset and practicality and tactics that you need in there as well, but I just wanna I just wanna encourage you that that you're right. It's Sometimes it's about time. Sometimes it's just one relationship away. All of these these mindsets, the the the the minor there in the in the cartoon that I've, I mean, I've seen that meme. You know? The the reason why the guy at the bottom is full steam ahead is because he has a different expectation.
Yep. The guy above, he has And we have and we find this in different forms in our life, in our relationship with our wives, our our spouses, and in relationships in our teams, if our expectation is different than what's happening. Frustration. Hit in the wall. I'm tired. I'm burnout. I I don't wanna do this anymore. I've lost the grace. Like, all of these things that fill our language or our emotions is just because our expectation was wrong.
And so if I change my expectation to rather than becoming a millionaire this year. Like, oh my gosh. Chaz has on all these guests, and they're all doing 1,000,000 or 1,000,000 or, you know, 100 of 1,000,000, some of these guests. I gotta go do it tomorrow. And it's like, that's the wrong expectation. So change your expectation. Change your mindset Chaz RJ says. Absolutely. And and keep plowing. Keep keep moving forward. Guys. RJ, how can the listener connect with you?
I am very active on Facebook. So just my name, RJ De Leon. I'm also on LinkedIn, RJ De Leon. And my email is contact@ejcpartners.com. Perfect, man. I just so appreciate everything that you've given here today out of your free will and that's the ability to wanna give back. So thank you. We wish you nothing but success and blessing and your family and all your all your endeavors. Thank you. Same to you. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today.
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