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2 | The Mindset Needed to Avoid Being Mediocre w Matt Kuehlhorn

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In this episode, Chaz Wolfe chats with Matt Kuehlhorn, owner of a 7-figure business, about his journey to success. They delve into entrepreneurial mindset, trust in business growth, the value of mentorship, and learning from mistakes. Matt also shares his decision-making process, future planning strategies, and recovery methods from business loss. Tune in for a round of quick-fire questions and an invitation to a unique coaching program.

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On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. That's really not the money that drives the game. You know, my fear is to be mediocre. That's a fear. Yep. And that fear pushes me away towards life mastery. It's not about the things. It's about the who. Yeah. And that's what drives me, Chaz, is who can I become? Oh, I woke up again today. Came on.

You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the reel of the reel on what it takes to build successful business today.

We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along the way Chaz give a true and accurate picture of the journey of success and how you 2 can get there. Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. Alright, guys. Chaz Wolfe coming back to you gathering the Kings today.

I have a guest that is not just incredible, but this guy has got me so jacked up. Chaz in this intro right now, man, like, if I showed you my my my shirt, I'm sweating. I got pits. I'm pitting out right now. Matt, dude, we just got done with an credible conversation and value, podcast, man. Did you feel as much influence and and power that I did? Chaz, I'm in the ring too, man. I'm the same way. I Chaz a blast. Dude, okay. So, Paul, so for the listener, as you're about to in.

Matt goes through not only how he built a 7 figure business, but the mindset, around it all. So stay tuned. Get your pen and paper because it's about to get real. Alright, guys. Welcome again to Gathering the Kings, as you probably just heard in our intro. We've got Matt Q horn here. Matt, thanks for coming on the show, my man. Chaz, I'm psyched to be here, man. Thank you. That's awesome, dude. We're gonna jump in.

And as the listeners know, we're gonna pull out some nuggets here from your journey, but you're a seven figure owner. And you haven't always been. You've got a an awesome story as I got to learn about you off air, but we're gonna we're gonna pull all that out. But for the listener right now, tell me what it is that cooler garage door does. And tell me kind of just in in essence, like, where you are right now in the business?

I started cooler 7 years ago, and really started as a house painter and have refined focus. Now we're in the garage door niche. And it's true. Ritches are in the niches. Love it. You asked me what it means to be a 7 figure business owner. I don't know. It's waking up, going to work day by day. My my shift has focused, so I'm not throwing on the tools.

I'm being a little bit more strategic, mindful, and I've got a little bit more resources to play out some of those strategies, which gets really fun. So today, I'm really putting together the foundation that in some ways I should have done years ago, how do I know? So now I'm in this realm. I'm putting together the foundation to take this business to the 8 figure.

And that's just a strategy that's just putting a cinder block foundation down, making it on bedrock, like solid, and then you could build up all the bells and whistles from there. But if you're like, yeah, I'm just getting to this point now where there's resources. There's a little bit more of my time. I can free it up, do some of the thinking, and put this next level of launch pad together. Yep. 100%.

And and for the most part, as we've already talked about, the listener who's chiming in today is probably running a 6 figure business. They wanna get to the 7 figure mark. And so hearing you say some of those things, I know that they're currently struggling with. They're currently struggling with their time and and being able to pull their head out of the day to day to be able to work on the more high level strategy like you talked about.

I know that it's tough to not know what you don't know, like you just said. And so, hopefully, we were able dive into some of those things as we get to know your journey a little bit. But before we go there, tell us at this level at the, quote, unquote, you made it, Mark, Right? You're doing a 1,000,000 plus, probably multiple over, but the question really is at this point is what drives you now? Really a very similar thing. I wake up with a quote.

I got the opportunity in 2011, go work with gentleman named Keith Cunningham. Keith is the original rich dad. So he mentored Robert Kiyosaki. It's the book came out. Rich dad, lord dad. Keith is rich dad. And he's an incredible mentor to go work with. He's based in Austin, and he's just a grounded salt of the earth dude who knows business Yeah. Who's lost his shirt and built it all regained again. His quote, hell on earth to meet the man I could have been.

I would rather meet that man Look them in the eye and say I know you because I am you. So And it's really not Yeah. It's really not the money that drives the game. Yeah. It's really this internal desire for and my fear is to be mediocre. Right? That's a fear. Yep. And that fear pushes me away towards life mastery. That quote from Keith and knowing Keith and seeing all that he has built, it's not about the things. It's about the who. Yeah. And that's what drives me, Chaz, is who can I become?

Oh, I woke up again today. Game on. Let's go see who this motherfucker can be. You know? Yeah. I I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I can't I no. I've never had it described exactly like that, but the game that you're talking about exists at the beginning. It exists at the figure mark, the 7 figure mark, and it will exist when you hit 8 figures because I believe that you will with that mindset.

And and the you highlighted it really, which is At some point, you have to enjoy the game. You gotta have fun. It can't just be the grind, which is I know so many listeners are. And so, hopefully, we'll be able to dive into some of the things that you've done to get to the fun place, but I love that quote. I love that perspective, that mindset, for sure. So Yeah. Matt, take us back. Okay?

So I know a little bit about your story, but take us back from where, like, entrepreneurship started for you because I know you weren't always an entrepreneur, so give us a little bit of that. Going way back, It's my mom's coffee shop. When I was maybe eight years old, seven years old, she went out and with a friend built a corner coffee shop, on the south side of Chicago. Wow. Still there on 96th Street in Winchester.

She ended up selling it, took some risk, put it together, I saw that as a kid. I would go there after school and hang out, and I just thought it was cool. I was like, yeah, mom's school is shit. She could started her own business. I thought I was gonna work there when I got old enough, and she ended up selling, and we ended up moving but that was just a little seed in the game. And then also to my mom's credit, like, I went to college going to play the college game.

I was gonna get the the job benefits and the salary, and that's what I did after high school and college went in to get these jobs that would please my mom in a lot of ways. And it was never a fit. I had 2 years of running in every position, and then I would just go right against that leadership because I always thought I could do it better. Right. There's a lot of ignorance in that, but it was just this kernel of an entrepreneur. So I think I'm a late bloomer.

Once I started having kids and bringing other people that were depending on me, that thing just fired up. And I I just could not deal with the ceiling. Like, I was gonna let somebody else dictate what I earned for a No. Thanks. This is yep. I'm gonna have to take this one. So I just took these leaps of baits. That's incredible. And I know there's much more to the story there.

Give us a little snippet because you told me before we jumped on the air here, but how you came to that gap where you just said you you took a leap and and took some faith and took some risk. Give us, like, just 30 seconds on that moment when you decided to go all in on you as an entrepreneur as removing the cap all of that. Give us a little piece of that moment for you.

Yeah. Honestly, Jess, I would have tested this a couple times before, but the real moment was when I had a really comfortable government job, I was working for our county, and the game in the county, like, you get hired on you can retire with the county. Some people are really psyched on that. They didn't quite churn my butter. So I had that position. And, again, 2 years in in 2 years, I attained some really cool results that I was really proud of.

I learned how to write grants, and I secured funding for this quasi government. And I was like, oh, that's sweet. What else could I do? And at that time, it just wasn't a place for me there anymore. I got it funded, had the benefits package, I just wasn't internally set. I also had I believe at that time, like, a a one year old, to care for a three year old, and my wife was stay at home mom. And I was like, yeah. I gotta go. I gotta do this. There was no rationality to it.

Looking at it from an observer, like, I think of my son in the same scenario. He goes 20 years into the future. I'm like, oh my god. What are you doing? Right? At the same time, I know you gotta do that. Yep. Good luck. Okay. Exactly. For the listener here, I'm I'm hearing several things I wanna I wanna pull out for him.

I'm hearing you had the cush deal, but even though it was a good salary, a good scenario, good benefits, for all intents and purposes, this cush scenario, but it didn't fulfill you because you know that you're designed for more. And and as an entrepreneur myself, obviously, many times over, I know that feeling, and I know the listener right now is thinking that same thing. I'm like, oh, yeah. We're just cut from a different cloth. I'm made for more.

I don't know exactly what that looks like or what that means, but, man, I just I would rather work 80 hours a week for myself than work 40 hours a week, whether it be for someone else or under the circumstances where I can't grow the things that you were just describing. And then what you said after that was forget the circumstances. Like, I had a one year old. I had a three year old.

I had a wife that I had to, you know, take and and and where most people would have that would have sucked them back into mediocrity and average and the cush situation that you Chaz. You actually use that as fuel, not only to go get everything that you were made for, but then also what your family deserves. So talk about that for a quick second. I think that more people can take that kind of leap. More people who can move on that than Again, it's it's not necessarily rationality in that moment.

If I was dependent out, rationally, I should have stayed. There's no question. But this fire that's within us, especially for, you know, entrepreneurs, and I think a lot of And there's a lot of men and women. You name this all about kings, and I love that because that's an archetype that's within the mature masculine. And this Kings, like, we want to rain. We wanna draw the line and say that's where we're going.

And and make it happen, even though we don't know the how or even if our plan gets all disheveled, and we end up going sideways for a little bit. Like, that's part of the journey. But, man, this construct that we have of of business, capitalism, of salaries, of positions, like it's all made up. It's just people's thoughts. And if it doesn't fit, we've gotta move around and use our own thoughts. To create what we really are here for. That's life fulfillment. Right?

Like, I think that the biggest mistake is to not live a life fulfilled. Right. Yeah. You've got the un the unknown that you never get to if you never take the chance to begin with or the risk. And so to your point, rationally, it didn't make sense. But the unknown of what you were made for, what you were created for, the just the bigger picture, the possibility, the optimistic approach, it's always worth it.

Rational or not, it's always worth it, especially to an entrepreneur who is a little bit crazy as you've describes. So tell me, Matt, we're gonna transition into some, like, really practical things here. We've gone high level mindset, like, We're entrepreneurs. We're crazy. That's great.

But in your business, as you're as you've been growing to 7 figures and then now much beyond that, tell me a good decision that you made that was instrumental to you Chaz you think the listener today could implement right now. You know what really comes up, Chaz, and I can get some specifics here, but, really, the best decision was to start. And and that still applies. Because there's still edges. Like, I have a comfort zone. My comfort zone is bigger now than it was 7 years ago.

Sure. But it's still tiny compared to what it will be like in 2034. So Right. The best decision is to start. And in thinking about some good ideas, writing them down, and then taking action. And that action is just step out of the comfort zone. This still happens every day Yep. As I go and I, like, not stopped for sure. Yep. So I'm hearing you say not don't not don't think, like, in detail. Like, of course, there's detail on some decisions that we have to make.

But for the most part, the good decision for you starts with, let me expand my the way that I think. Let me expand my comfort zone. Like, I gotta just jump first. The details will follow, and and that in itself is a perpetual good decision you find yourself making? 100%. Yeah. And for the 6 figure guy listening and when he's like, okay. Well, I I started, and I'm doing the thing.

And I've got a couple of guys on my team, and let's say that they're in in the service space like you are, but they can't they just they're just stuck. They can't get out of that. Like, it's me and 4 guys, and I got I'm on the job site to to be able to make sure everything's happening properly. How how do I what good decision am I looking for there, or what does that just start decision look like for somebody at that level?

Yeah. That's good perspective, Chaz. If I was in that shoe again and looking at that, The just starting, again, is looking for an area that can grow my company that's right outside of my comfort zone. And this might be a part where I don't even see it, and I might need to get some coaching. And that's been a big piece through my entire journey Chaz having coaches.

Sure. I'll drop that in there, but the just start in that scenario could be more aligned with furthering the starting or furthering the trust that I give to my team. Yep. The trust that I give to myself in decision making. Yep. And just looking at the next step, like, where is the bottleneck in my business? Why am I completely like, trying to get out of the field to work on the business, but always getting stuck back in to whatever that might look like.

Oh, there is a trade in my case with tools or on the computer or whatever. Exactly. No. That's super practical. Thank you for sharing that. The just start for me is, like, consistently looking at that next edge. Where's the edge of my comfort zone? What can I identify there? And thinking is really important by mentor Keith Cunningham. He talks about thinking time.

Yep. That's a little different in some respects because when I say just start, like, sometimes it's okay to do things that are not very good at first. Sometimes we just gotta get it out the door, and it might look like shit. Yep. There's one. Started. And that's the perpetual consistent never ending improvement that we refine thereafter. Yep. No. I love that process, and and I wanna just recap that for for the listeners real quick here.

So, obviously, just get started, but that's a perpetual decision to keep going. You've gotta be able to give yourself and your team trust. And then also, I heard you say in there, obviously, your coach, you've mentor you've said word coach and also mentor, but other people that you've gotten around that have expanded the way that you think.

Obviously, that falls in line with what gathering the Kings is all about, whether we've got our 7 figure group, which you know, is a different conversation more so along the lines of what we're talking about. And then, of course, our 6 figure groups, which are guys like this that are listening, that are trying to get to that 7 figure mark and trying to un unbottleneck pinches and and trying to figure out processes and hiring and all the more of the tactical things.

And so I love that you said that. Thank you for that. Let's flip the script and let's go to a bad decision. What comes to your mind immediately? I'm like, I Wolfe if I could go back and change that one thing, Of course, you probably learned from it, but what was it? The one thing is just trying to be everything to everyone. Hence, why you said the riches are in the niches. That's right. And that's I would I could play it just about in every facet of my life.

And, again, it's it takes some self love to be able to draw those boundaries. So getting to know myself. Yep. But once I'm there, once I own this, my identity, who I am, Then I can say no. Then I can say this is where we're going. Like, it's this presence is what I call that. Yeah. And, yeah, I've made I've lost so many tens of 1000 of dollars trying to do projects I should not have done. We're saying yes when I should have said no over and over again. Yeah. 100%.

So what I'm hearing you say is in order to make better decisions and not make a bad decision, really, know yourself so that way you can say no to the wrong choices in your past because you didn't maybe know yourself as well or because you were trying to be everything to everyone, you took on projects maybe even hire people out because I know I have when we probably should know because we were trying to get something done that we shouldn't have begin

trying to get done to begin with because we didn't know ourselves, because we weren't honed in, because we weren't focused, Am I am I anything to add there? I want I'm trying to bullet point in here for the listener. I don't have anything to add. I I think that's a good summation. Good. Knowing the Wolfe, allows you to choose where you're going. And then there's faith behind that as the next skill because we have to have faith. I can make a really crappy decision.

As long as I live with that and extract any learning out of that, There's no failure there. Just a bad decision. Oh, I lost $50. Yep. Me and that hurts. Like Yep. Feel bad, but then be like, maybe I should say no next time. I have to go this way. Yep. A 100%. I remember, my wife begged me. The only franchise, I spent about $400,000 to open up a franchise retail franchise like mine, and I that's the only one she was just, like, don't, and I didn't listen.

We already know where this is going because we should always listen to the wife's intuition for sure without a doubt. But when I close that business, And I realized the 100 of 1000 of dollars that I had left, it was, like, or missed or lost, whatever you wanna call it, but it was number 1. I'm gonna not listen to my wife, but number 2, it was man. Okay. There was tons in here that I learned.

I need to be able to pull these things out because I cannot use this as now fear to hold me back from what you said, which is start again every day or take the next action or go to the next place where I'm uncomfortable. I gotta be able to extract those things like you said and and then use them to go forward. Yes. Yes. 100%.

Okay. So when making decisions and you've kinda hinted at this a little bit, but do you have a formula or a process that you can give to the listener here that helps them Stay away from the bad decisions. Lean more towards the good ones. You've given us a little bit on this, but any sort of formula process. Yeah. Absolutely. So first part of a process is to identify the problem.

And when you think you have the problem, ask yourself is this the real problem, or is it a symptom that's covering my real problem? I hope you're listening to taking notes because he's been fire on you guys right dig in to really identifying the problem because a lot of times we go about solving the problem that isn't Yep. And it's a symptom of something else.

And so gain clarity on the problem, and I usually do this sitting down with notepad and pen, and I write this, and I'll ask myself multiple times. Sometimes I'll even park a question in my brain, and I'll go to sleep. Wake up the next morning and continue working on it. Like, it could take a couple of days to really uncover the right problem. Yep. But once you're identified of the problem, it's a lot easier to come up with a solution because we've got point a of where we are.

We've got point be of where we wanna go, and then we've got a problem between the 2. And it's all about just building the machine to get us from point a to point b. Yep. As long as we know exactly where we are, and that's just candid humility and honesty and sometimes getting somebody else like our wives or your coach to tell us what's really happening, what really we are. Yep. And we'd identify the problem. Then we can start saying, this is where we're going. I want that 7 figure business.

I want x in my pocket, net profit, whatever your target is. And we could start building an approach that just day by day gets us one step closer. It's not happening over here. That's super quick. So patience is another skill Yep. To solving problems. So as an entrepreneur, obviously, that's the bones of who we are. We're problem solvers. And and to the degree that we solve problems, usually is the degree of our revenue and or income.

And so I hear what you're saying is that even inside of our business, as we're solving problems for our clients or our customers or even our employees, our team members, that's we're good at that because of someone else. But when we're trying to solve our own problems, I hear him saying, be honest with yourself and take time.

Don't be rushed when you're trying to identify the problem or when you've come to a decision, whether you're trying to hire a marketing agency or you're trying to, hire a person or you're trying to, maybe find a coach or whatever the decision is that you've got in front of you, Matt's saying to take time to not necessarily think about the decision, but to think about problem that could be potentially solved by this decision, make sure you have the

right problem, actually identified, then does this decision help me get from a to b, where I am as a, which is the actual state of where I'm at, which includes the problem, and then b is obviously where I've already identified. So talk on that for just 30 seconds, Matt. You you talked about a, how do I identify b? Obviously, it's what we want. But what have you done specifically to identify b for yourself? I love that question, dude. We identify b because it's our choice.

Okay. I'm deciding where I wanna go. I'll give you an analogy because I think this is so perfect. When I started my trades company, like, I I burst into the 6 figure category pretty quick, and I was all about revenue. K. So my b, I made my b up. I said, I want to have a $1,000,000 revenue business. K. Turns out with some sweats, some hard work, some hustle, little bit of skill set. One can get to a 7 figure company. Yeah. And that was cool, but when I did that, I was still broke.

Because I had the wrong b. Sir, sir. I wasn't solving for the problem that it was really was. Like, I thought having all that revenue, I wouldn't have to worry about my income anymore. Shit. 1 year, I lose a $100 to be really is up to us to decide where we wanna go. It could be a small problem. I don't know. My dishes are dirty in the sink. That's a problem. I want them clean. Like, there's so many different ways of getting them clean.

But if I really say I want them clean by 5 o'clock, I can make that happen Yep. And go through the motions to do that. So now I'm like, okay. I've got this little bit of success with my company. The the pressure is off on a income wise. Like, my network's a lot healthier than it was. I'm I'm getting these pieces. So now I can sit down and I think it'd be like, alright. What do I want? It's a really powerful question. What do I want? And I could write down all sorts of stuff. And I'll do this.

Brain storming wise, especially towards the end of the year, you'll say, what do I want? What do I want? And sometimes it's material things. Like, my wife and I will want a lake house somewhere. We don't know where. But we just have that. Yep. I want freedom, really, to do what I want with whom I want, when I want, And in order to get that freedom, I'm gonna have to have a couple business vehicles that generate some good cash. Yeah. That's right.

And And if I get clear on where I'm going and I could break this down for my company. Right now, we're shifting into a different little bit of a vehicle model. So I'm saying, I wanna have a very top end service oriented garage door business. It's different from where it's been. But now that I have b identified, I can start taking these steps. I can lock in the right software. I can re wrap the vans. I can do all the pieces. Yep. Wolfe, we literally call our shot when we're establishing b. Yep.

And if I'm in the grind of a 6 figure and I've got my tool bags on or I'm just, like, feeling it, 70 plus hour weeks. Yep. Every person's b is relative. Maybe I just want 5 hours of free time to go hang out with the bros or Right. Go hang out with the family, or that's where we just have to look at our life and assess it and be like, what do I want? Yep. What do I really want?

As we gain clarity on that, then we can say where am I. And then we start building the machine that can get us from a to b. A 100%. Yeah. I I I think you made it pretty clear, but for the person listening, I hope that you're taking notes. I want you to write down. You have to know your why. You have to know your point b, in this case, for Matt, what he's saying is that if you don't know Chaz, and then to the next level, clarity behind it, it's not just seven figures. It's not just x yz.

It's gotta be it's gotta be a little bit more meaningful than that, and it also has to be tied to some emotional things that you're really excited and passionate about. It doesn't have to be your lifelong purpose. Your mission necessarily. Although, obviously, the more emotional that you can make it the better, but everything that he just gave to you was incredible. So thank you for sharing Chaz, man.

Say, it's wonderful to hear it across the table because that's exactly where why I've gotten to where I am is because I identify to be and then you just go after it. And and sometimes that b changes as you go, you get a better clearer vision of what that b looks like.

To your point, you're already changing some of the b for for your garage door company, even though you've already, quote, unquote, made it, that b is a an ever changing location, especially for entrepreneurs who who, like, something fresh and something new and the next challenge and the next mountain to climb and so forth and so on. So let's hit the speed round real quick here.

And, really, I want to the best of your ability, one word answers, but short answer because I wanna fly through these, and I want the listener to be paying close attention because Matt's already given you so much today, and I already know he's gonna give you some more fire as we go through these. So, Matt, The first question is if you Chaz only pick 1 metric to track forever and ever for the rest of your business life, what would it be and why? Sales. K? Why? Gotta keep the gotta keep the churn.

Gotta have the machine. Right? Good. If you have no sales, you have no business. And so if you're hearing this and sales is not your number one metric coming from a sales background myself, I agree with Matt that you absolutely need to focus on sales. The rest, you can figure out. Alright. Number 2, a book recommendation. You already threw out rich dad poor dad, which is a great phenomenal book, but for for that 6 figure guy, what book do you recommend? Meek and Grow Rich. Love it.

K. I I read it on an annual basis. Every time. Every time I reset and I go to another level, I reread that book. So thinking grow rich, Matt and I are We are literally we must be speaking from the same mind over here because that would have been my book as well. I reread it once a year, and I forced myself to find something new and apply it, obviously, to where I'm at in the growth of my companies, and so love that. I know you wanna keep this short test.

But I've reread that book recently off of, recommendation. So I have the book right by my bed, Sam. I've read it. I don't know how many times. Align. Every time I wanna make a jump, I'll reread that book. In that book, there is a point in there that He's asking the reader to come up with a number. And so my challenge to you, challenge to the listeners is come up with a number, like, when are you gonna have a $1,000,000 in the bank? Yep. Date it. Create a statement.

Do the work in that book, and it will oh, man. It'll add fire. It really is. To add to that story, it was a couple of years ago, not a couple. It was probably 10 years or so ago. I'd already read the book a couple of times, but this was the first time I wrote it out and I read it every single day like the book talks about. Yep. Yep. And and I'll tell you what. I found that piece of paper 2 years later. That specific because I I hadn't have it in a book at that point.

Now I've got it in a book, and we're good to go keeping it forever. But I found this piece of paper as we were moving 3 years later, and I was like, Wow. This is the first time I wrote it down. I remember saying it to myself out loud every single day. And if I didn't freaking hit the number, I'll tell you what. I was blown away because you don't really think about it. You know what I mean? But it was years later, I'm looking back going That was the income that I wanted.

That was the money in the bank. That was my net worth. I had them all written down because, obviously, they're very different. And Matt, dude. I cannot tell you, what kind of honest value that you're given right now. I can't even the listeners getting more than they bargained for. Okay. Love it. Who you intentionally network and mastermind with other business owners?

And if you do, which you've already Chaz a t you already gave it a little bit too about your coach and stuff, but If you do you spend money to do this? Yes. And yes. And tell me why it's 6 figures because here's the thing. And usually at 6 figures, It's Ah, I know. Maybe it's important, but, like, I don't have any extra cash flow, and I'd rather buy some tools or I'd rather buy some software or the coach or the surrounding of my network doesn't feel like it's gonna get me that big of a return.

Tell them why it does. I think y is a little bit of woo woo in there too, but anytime you can find somebody that's done something that you've already done, Yeah. You can cut your learning curve in half or more. Which means time and money? 100%. I heard it recently. I I can't remember where, but there's some show about they drop millionaires or billionaires into a scenario and give them $50 and see what they can produce in a week kinda reality show.

And I think one guy in there spent all $50 on a a phone call. For a 2 minute phone call, and there's value to that. There really is value to buying somebody else's time to get a energetic exchange to get information that can just slice a learning curve. Massively. 100%. Love that. Okay. Last question, Matt, if you lost it all today, you wake up tomorrow and it's all gone, there is no cooler What do you do? It's a great question. I really start networking. I reach out to people that I know trust.

And have conversations. And if I am pointed at this place where I already have something I wanna do or create, then I'm gonna get even more selective on who I reach out to. But, really, for me, it's all about a network. I'll go hunt people down in allies.

I'll I'll find whoever I need to connect with, and that could be for various reasons if I was to start over and start from scratch, yeah, start going to likely some leadership of whatever town city, find the influencers get to know them, find out what they need, go ahead and get it, and give it to them. Yep. That's right. Okay. Good. Alright. So how can someone connect with you, Matt? They just loved you. They wanted to connect with you further. How do they find you?

How do they connect with you? Yeah. So I'll drop a hobby of mine right now. So I have my my cooler garage doors. You can Google cooler with a k and and find me. Otherwise, it's core fathers. And core, c o r e, fathers, is a handle that I have in social media. And I'll drop nuggets like this. I love these kind of conversations, Chaz, and that is literally a hobby. I don't know where it's gonna go. Maybe it becomes a 7 figure on its own someday.

Yeah. But it's my channel for just educating, mentoring, getting like minded people together, core fathers. Love it. So if you're taking notes here again, core fathers, You can find Matt on social media with the handle core fathers. I actually I've seen some of your stuff, and I've we haven't talked about it at all, but I've seen some of your stuff. He already has given me value, and and I'm sure many of others, so definitely find him and connect with him if if that resonates with you.

So thank you, Matt, for coming. You have dropped some amazing bombs and value here today. And Chaz you've given the listener more than they bargained for sure. Thank you for all that you do, and, thank you for being on the show, my friend. I love it, Chaz. Thank you, man. Really appreciate the opportunity. Thanks for listening to gathering the Kings. Hope you got a ton of value today and learned a thing or 2 about taking your business to 7 figures and beyond.

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