On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. So I always say the business owner is he's the guy that usually the small business owner, he's dealing with the finances. I mean, dealing with the guy in the field. Yep. And he's dealing with the customers and throw in the marketing and all that other stuff in there. Started dealing with all guns, and you can learn to let go and give those responsibilities to somebody else and hire good people. If I'm the smartest guy in the room, I'm worried.
You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life, but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the real of the real on what it takes to build a successful today. We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made success and how you too can get there.
Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. Alright. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe. Gathering the king's Sheldon Stewart is on the king stage today. How you doing, Sheldon? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. A 100%. Not just a king in the business. You've been a king in the business for quite some time now.
I'm excited to have someone with as much history and business as you do. So Sheldon, what what type of business do you have? So we we have a interior exterior painting company that provides house washing and copper concern. I love it. And so, you know, I I love talking to trades. And guys like you because when I say guys like you, because they're guys like me. I feel like I feel like someone who can dial in to the to the basics, like what you just said.
These are our 3 core foundations of what we offer and build a big business around it. I just just have so much respect for. So before we dive into your history and how you got started, all that fun stuff, I wanna know why are you still pressing at this level? Like, you've got decades of history, why are you still pressing into Stuart Painting Incorporated? You know, I my wife asks me the same question every day.
If I I think it's a I think that I'm a drinking person, and I find grow and next step. I love it. And so I I love doing what I do. And, you know, I'm surrounded by people well, not surrounded by people, but I'd I'd talk to people all the time and say, all we talk about is your time, your time, your time, your time. Sure. Sure. It's great. I, you know, I I think it's a great bowl. And I have the same goal. I just I'm going about it a little different.
Yeah. Yeah. I I I think to maybe expound on that. Tell me if I'm wrong here, but retirement to you looks sounds feels a little different. It it it does. It's I I think that it's not in my DNA to to have the, you know, I don't even know what retirement is. You know, the only retirement of you turn sixty years old or sixty five years old and You retire, you have a pension, and I that that ship sailed for me a long time ago when I decided to have this business. That's right.
So that being said, you know, if you love what you do, which I do, I just have to find a way to still make this portion of my life part of my retirement. Yeah. I love that. It's basically just an extension of your lifestyle. You I I think I think everybody would say that, you know, retirement is to do the things that you love. Right? Like, I get to travel now. I get to do all these things. And for guys like you and I, We love business. We love building.
We love pressing in and and and and all this stuff. So why why would why would we remove that? From the time when we're supposed to be doing what we love. Is that right? Yeah. I mean, how many people do you see or hear about that stop doing? What they love to do or what they love to have, and they do something else, and they're not happy. Yeah. They're doing what, you know, fits in the box of what they're supposed to do. Right.
Exactly. Well, I I think where you're gonna get so much wisdom the in the coming minutes here. So I wanna get to your story. You've obviously been in business a long time. Tell us how you guys started and, like, when, how long you've been in business? Give us a little bit of the history here. Yeah. So I've been in business 40 years. And back in, really, how it started for me is back in high school when everybody used to to be a painter for a particular coach. And, I said, geez.
This is gonna be great. I'm gonna have a great summer job. I was pressuring your high school, and I went and saw him. He said, Sorry. You're too small. Wow. Small. Yeah. House. What do you mean? Did the house payer? So it really motivated me to start lifting weights into Chaz, you know, oh, oh, because I knew my sophomore year. Was gonna be on that guy's paint. And and so I went. He said, oh, yeah.
And then, you know, then it was the junior year, and then it was same year, and then I started doing jobs on my own. And and it just stopped, you know, when I was in college, you know, I had like, twelve people working for me while I was in college. So I was dealing with, of course, now it was like any other college students on this business. Right? It was just organized. I'm sure. Uh-uh. It was survival. And, And I I'm I love the, I love the hunt.
I love the thrill of it, and I'm still the one to call. You know, I I I picked out, a theme here or maybe something that can be can be picked up by the listener. Tell me if you agree. I heard that you say that business owner that you worked for he he taught or he coached through the year so that he wouldn't have any labor shortages in the busiest time of the year, which is the summer. That is that what I heard him do? Well, that's what you are. He was a good recruiter, it sounds like. Oh, yeah.
He hit her. He hit her. Should you know? That's right. That's right. Well Exactly. Well, I think that it's I think it's remarkable, actually, that you being, you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old, and your desire is to wanna be on this guy's crew, I would have been in the same place. I was working construction in the same age, especially in the summertime. And, to have a little bit of guidance around, running a business around it would have been would have been fantastic. But okay.
So so you start your business shortly after high school if you're doing it in college. Yeah. You're running Wolfe guys of a in a crew while you're in college, going to class, or were you even going to class? Yes. Now that was It was probably more seasonal than anything, right, because Sure. You go to school and it's and it's the end of the season or the jail end of the season. So you're trying to wrap up you know, the 5 or 6 jobs that you got going and That's right.
You know, you roll into the wintertime and you try to send up some stuff for when you're coming home on winter break. Right. Right. And again, for the springtime and then again, for the summer. So okay. So tell us tell us when it became maybe not real is not the right word, but tell me when it became, like, full blown. Oh, okay. So it was the it was the probably the summer of 85. 85. And the person that I had worked for and in doing some, you know, some other projects for my first lots.
He came to me, and he said, I I need to talk to you. And I saw him and great. They're gonna make me a partner. Isn't great. And he came to me and he said, I'm out of business. I'm I'm I'm I'm closing up shop. I'm moving you to Hampshire. And his 10 houses, then I'm gonna give you, like, all my customer list and his 10 houses. If you want, we can have them. Wow. And I said, you know, alright. I'll I'll do it. See what happens.
Oh, that that's how I Begun in college to continue to have this painting covered. Got it. And I started out that way. And, you know, I I I can still remember the days I come home every summertime, and it'd be 5050 you know, messages on a machine, and I would just erase every one of them. Yeah. I just didn't know. You know what? Huddl. I was young. I had a lot of, you know, head couple of houses in front of me was gray. That's all you needed. Those those days change quickly. Right. That's right.
Well, especially when you can build out some teams and and 50 houses, can go by like this as opposed to back in the day, you were just trying to keep up with the 2. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was It it made me you know, made me realize early on that I wanted to do or be something more than someone that had 5 or 6 or 10 houses in front of me. In, you know, in the wintertime, I'm dying to listen to the recording and call people back. And in the summertime, I just wanted to erase every one of them.
You know? So I knew they had to be a better road, but this, you know, and so let's talk about that because, obviously, getting that under under wrap or organized probably was helped you put together some real systems. Was there was there something along the way that changed it from I mean, I guess after you accepted those 10 and maybe after you got out of college, but was was there ever that play where you were like, okay.
Now was when I'm leaning into more than just the 10 houses that are ahead of me type of the thing. Yeah. Well, I I think the the reality is that The painting industry, I Wolfe I would drive, you know, around and I would look at all the different paintings And I and I I would always migrate to the most successful ones. And I and I always wanted it be like them. And I and I would go to the paint store in the morning when they were there.
And I'm a young guy, and these guys were, like, sixty five years old. You know, they had these dad. We're 60, 70, 8 year in business, you know, multi generational. That's what I wanted. And so And I realized in our industry, there are so many people that have a ladder and have a truck. And they have a name on the side of it. And and that's their help. Right? And how do you separate yourself from that How do you separate yourself from that? Yeah. Was was my my goal?
Yeah. Okay. And so how did you do that? Well, It it took a lot of a lot of failing forward, I would say. I was never afraid to Wolfe try something new to him. Different people working for me. People would say, why do you have pink sweaters with black lettering? I was just always trying to find a way to to stand out. Sure. And and then I wanna say when I started to get more vehicle and realized that you have to have different systems in place in order to Yep. To continue growing.
And I started searching. I started reaching out to consult in the industry, and I failed at a lot of them. It cost me a lot of money. But I knew that I needed to keep on surging until I could find someone to get me through the next level. I love that perspective. So let's talk let's let's break down this journey here into some some more practicals for the listener. So far, I'm hearing you say that even though there was you know, guys being successful. And then there's plenty of guys who weren't.
You gravitated toward the successful ones. You were trying to emulate those guys. You're trying to get time around them, whether they realize it or not. Paint shop. Yeah. And so now I wanna know, like, what was the decision along the way that was a good decision that you can look back on now, but you realized that it was, like, you know, the catapult to a lot of what you have today. So alright.
You know, this is gonna sound might sound strange to a lot of people, but k. When I was younger and, I mean, in beginning days of college, I got into some debt by, purchasing a home and at those high, huge, high interest rate, And, you know, people always say debt is bad. You know, you don't want a lot of debt. Well, you know, for me, it finally looks back. Chaz debt created it. K. How so? It it made me it made me work. It made me realize that I I didn't know. I mean, what is the peak of debt?
When when am I ever gonna get out of it? How how old am I gonna be? And and can I continue to Chaz I continue to take care of this amount of debt by myself? Right? Or do I need a lot of people to help me? Work long, right, many hands? That's right. So the debt And and and I talked to people about this, you know, maybe not now. But back when I was starting, the debt really It made me applying myself in a different direction than I would have gone Chaz I had known Yeah.
I'm hearing you say, I mean, given, I think, today's culture of expectancy or almost like a You know, everybody's got a handout type of a thing. I think that when you go get credit card debt or certain things, it's almost like expected to a degree, and there's no willingness to, like, fight to pay it back. But what I'm hearing you say that you got was this, like, okay. My backs against the rope in order to survive, I gotta go figure this thing out. Is that what you're saying?
Yeah. I think there's good debt and bad debt. Right? I I think You you know, and I had developed good debt. Right? And I just know that I was twenty one years old, and I had a mortgage that I I had pay. Yeah. You gotta get busy. Yeah. So how do you do it? Right? And and the biggest I think the biggest eye opener for me is getting turned down by so many establishments for credit. Why? Because wasn't a legitimate business.
I wasn't, you know, I did that 1099 thing, and and I wasn't w tools and they weren't and so it really made me focus on. I'm twenty three years old, twenty four years old. Right? What what's my life gonna be like if I just 35 people? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So I think there's a huge takeaway there from a like, I don't know if I if I'm looking at you and I'm listening here today, I'm 6 figures. I haven't, you know, reached the 7 figure mark. I'm listening to someone who's been in business 40 years.
There's been a common theme of professionalism or almost just like a a taking it serious. That you've that you've given to us just in the last 20 minutes. But I think the the reality is is that there's a lot of guys. Like, you're saying, they kinda just, They have a side hustle. They have a little thing that I kinda just dabble with.
And, what the differentiator, if we go back to that common theme that you just shared with a couple minutes ago, is that The guys who took it seriously probably had a uniform. They probably carried themselves a specific way. They they had clean vehicles or whatever whatever the the thing down the line is. It wasn't just hey. I I've got a a paintbrush, a ladder, and a truck. And so would you say just kinda staying on this vein for another half second?
Is that is that, like, the differentiator between kinda like the the you know, the joker, the guy who's just kinda spinning around doing the half half jobs and the real deal company, Or is there anything else that Wolfe go along with that to really get No. I I've called people. I think that money is a well, a lot of people get into an industry to make money.
Sure. And and I certainly get it, but the You're probably not gonna make money unless you build your brand in that industry to be at the highest point that you can get it to. Yeah. It doesn't mean that you have to have a 100 or 200 or 500 employees. You might just want to, what, trade? But if you're only doing it for the money, then I always say the money will never come. Yeah. Yeah. And always doing the right thing is, I I think, is really, really important. It was important to me.
And, you know, it's it's one of our mission statements that, you know, We all we always do the right thing. And the right thing for me doesn't mean it's the right thing for you, but you gotta be true to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the perspective there of, yeah, even just what you just said, like, just being true to yourself, I think that, there's a lot of folks especially in today's world that are are, you know, dipping the toe in.
And I'm hearing someone like you who's got decades of experience if they just drew the line and decided to do this thing for real and treated it like it was real. It sounds like that's half the battle. It really is. I mean, You know, it's simple for me. Jets, I wanna do more of what I do. I don't wanna do more of other things. I just wanna do more of what I do. And the better I can do more of that, the the the better my brand.
Yeah. And And, you know, I I always say it's brand, brand, and, you know, I like to, you know, what really is gonna separate you from The next guy or the last guy? In in a in a in a and it might not be a uniformed, and it may not be, like, your trucks. It made me something more. It might be that, you know, you're involved in the community. Right? You know, Chaz you keep back to the community.
Yep. Yep. It might be that that, you know, people around you see you for more than what you are, even though they know exactly what you do. Yeah. There's so many perspectives that go into Chaz. So I love that. Okay. Let's flip the coin to your bad decision. I'm sure you've got plenty of them over 4 decades, but Give us give us just a really, really dirty nasty one. Oh, man. So when I first thought that I needed to really improve the systems, and and I need to bring a consultant on board.
And, boy, I'll tell you. I brought my purse the first consultant I ever brought on I almost lost my whole company. I mean Wow. That that that that's that typical on crack at $10 to $12 or whatever they're gonna do when they come in and they Yep. They just it was a weekend. Oh, this is gonna be great. And then he left on a Monday, and I said, and everybody came to me and it was it almost derailed me. So what I thought was going to be so terrific and get me to the next level, almost did Exactly.
The opposite. Yeah. Why do you think that that was? Because I wasn't ready for it. You know, you're not always ready for that type of culture change. Right? And I had a culture that I had created for, you know, 10 years. And now all of a sudden, someone's gonna come in and say, will get Wolfe change everything. And Yeah. I'm not gonna be here for you when you do it. You're gonna do it on your own. Yep. And it was it was devastating.
Really want. It was I I went from and he told me I'd be prepared for my to lose some employees. I just wasn't prepared to lose all of my employee. Oh, yeah. That's that's no Bueno. You know, it's funny. I've had these talks with entrepreneurs over the years, and there's there I think there's a certain profile that once things done for them. And then there's guys like you and I where we're like, wait. It will oh, wait a second. Wait a second.
I have I have it may not be perfect, but I've, like, put some, like, real blood, sweat, and tears into this thing. And and I and I don't want you to actually come in and do it for me. I want just give me the the framework and then let me let me do it because because there there's there's there's relationships. There's there's a blood, sweat, and tears.
There's there's specific things along the way, especially with employees Chaz I would never just wanna take a a a new way of thinking or a new culture, a new something, and just Here you go. You know? I think Chaz, is everything. Yeah, man. No one likes change. They like the results to change Chaz they don't like they don't You know? That's right. They wanna lose the 20 pound. They just don't want that thing in the middle called the diet. Right? So That's right. That's right.
Yep. Yeah. That was a that was a an eye opening experience for me. Well, now you've said you've hired them since then, and so I assume that you've you've had better results. And so tell us how you were maybe more prepared, the second or the third, or however many you've hired. Well, I would say, consulting firm that we use the Stokes today.
And so they were they mirror a culture firm that they really believing culture and that the change is implemented by the company, not by them, and And I think that is I think that is so important is to recognize how your company proceed came. How do they how do they adapt to it? Do you have integratings? Do you have I mean, who is who is gonna push the Chaz? You know, and who is gonna push against it and who's gonna absorb it.
Yeah. And so I really think that the thing that I learned the most about change is that you really have to introduce it to your culture so they you're not forcing it down that road. Sure. So so I I think that though Chaz some there's a lot of consulting firms out there. I I like partnership consulting firms that that help you and are there to support and not just give give you a bag of goods to to sell to your team. And they get their bag of goods, and they leave you with your bag of goods.
Yeah. No. You're a 100% right. Yeah. One's more relational. One's more transactional. And I think that we were definitely in alignment on that. That's what I prefer as well. You know, it's interesting, especially with the, topic of change.
We've had we've had several folks in in my different teams and different businesses that I have, but you know, say different things about change, but they all know if they're working for me, they know things are going to change, and that's it's probably the only constant. And and it's actually funny I had one of my gals on my team give a presentation. I don't know. A couple of weeks ago, we were in a in person mastermind and delivering some information for some guys.
And and she shared about this topic, but the to watch her growth in it, knowing that, like, it changes very difficult for certain profiles. Like you just said, hers being one of them. She's very detailed, very structured, you know, and and ruffling the already said lane that she's established is makes it difficult.
And so we've had to we've had to Bob and Weave over the the course of time together, But I'll tell you she's she's better now because she can be flexible, but at the same time, I'm better because I've had to deal with someone like her and many others, on how to be able to deliver change in a way that they can absorb because like you said, some people are just it just bounces right off where guys like you and me were like, Great. Like, let's make a change. Let's let's go. Let's run.
We'll write down. Yeah. Yeah. We'll run right now. Change the whole name. Change the whole business. I'm doing right now. Who cares? Okay. So I I wanna ask you about it. Any disciplines or process that you have around decision making. Again, you've made so many decisions over a course of 40 years. What process do you take them through?
So I I believe in, one I think that I'm a big believer in checklist, and I like my I have a management team, and I you know, I think that I'm I think a lot of decisions, you have to let go of a lot of decisions. You have to let other people. You have to empower them to make decision. They may be they may be good ones. They may be bad ones. But like I said, I mean, I got here by feeling forward, so you know, someone on my team has to deal forward. I have to be strong enough to walk in.
That's right. That's right. It's a good way to say it. You know, some of my, you know, I I believe in I believe in clarity I think that that should be on the same the same pay. I think that I'm okay with multiple people on my management team knowing the finances of the company. Sure. Making decision setting goals. I think that I think goal setting is is probably whether we do it. We do it yearly, and then we break it down into quarterly goal setting.
I think that it's it's probably one of the most important things that we we do. It it's the road map for, you know, either success or failure, but it reset the road map to get you back and track back online. That's right. Yeah. I mean, so many so many entrepreneurs don't even do this from from themselves individually. And so I would take what you just said as a process of making decisions and quarterly meetings and being able to give things away, I I love it.
I think you're a 100% right, and I think that the listener is challenged by that for sure. And I think that Potentially even step 1 for them is to create their own goals, create their own quarterly targets. Are they meeting with themselves Are they creating their roadmap for the next 90 days? Otherwise, like you said, how where are we going? I mean, even a vision I mean, we'll write up during a vision. It it's a chance we had a dream. Right? But so Yes. Where am I gonna be at 2 1025?
That's right. It and you get to you get to have fun with it. You know, don't don't make it away. Make make have fun with I think vision is a I think I think a great vision drives all roles. Yeah. No. You're 100% right. I would even add on to that that the communication of said vision like you said, gives clarity to the team. So I love that you said that. I think that if they don't know what they're doing or where they're where you're trying to take them, How can they how can they run hard?
How can they get behind you? Right. Right. And and, you know, the unknown. Yeah. Everybody is I'll talk to around the water cooler. Right? Yeah. Right. But they really don't know the direction. Right. Show the direction. Yep. Then then they don't have to guess. Exactly. Yeah. Which is hard. You know, I think even for guys like you and I, you said, we've had to implement systems over the course of time. I don't think either one of us are perfect yet, but it's still a work in progress.
We're we're we're still meeting. We're still putting things together. We're still sharing the vision. We're still trying to bring clarity because I think that people operate at another at a whole another level if they can not only understand what they're trying to accomplish, but inside of what it is that you're trying to accomplish as the entrepreneur. Yeah. I I, you know, I learn every day. Best ways to communicate with people. It's a challenge for me, right, on it? Every day.
You know, how I communicate to this person is not the same way I can communicate to that person. That's right. And so I I learn every day. I'm never I'm never, I never stick my head in the sand and say I can't wear them in today. Yeah. I think that that's so important. And you kinda just brushed on it just so briefly there, but one of the keys to success, I think. Alright, Sheldon. I wanna I wanna transition to our speed round.
I'm gonna ask you a question here, and, some of these are gonna be one word answers, but The first question is this. If you could dwindle your entire business down to 1 trackable metric. What would it be? And probably net operated property. K. And why is that for you? Because GP and things like that can get eaten up and they can look better than that.
And if you try to spread some well, people will Wolfe a way, if you're based on just the GP, they'll find a way to make that a bad thing with a net at the end. And Yep. This is what we're really dealing with here, people. Yep. Yeah. It includes the Wolfe story. That's right. Yeah. And you know what? Sometimes you gotta read the whole book to get down for that that that last closing line. Yeah. No. You're so true. So, right, k? What book would you recommend that a 6 figure business owner read?
No. That that is an interesting thing because Just just to find the time to read multiple books, I think. Yeah. It's a decision. I mean, the secret like Ken Blantwell or 7 har 7 habits of a highly efficient people. Last Steven told me that, those are some good books. Yep. But I'll tell you. I I'll stop, like, 3 or 4 books, 5 or 6 books, and have them all going, you know. Yep. Well, I I you know, I do like Jack Canfield.
I think he's a great got some great books, but, yeah, I don't know if there's just one book that I could point out to say this one you read this one book. It's gonna get you from Yes, sir. Yeah. I don't know if it was just one. That's alright. I think there's some several examples there that you gave to us that'll that'll that are mighty fine. Next question is, do you intentionally network or mastermind with other entrepreneurs? Yes. K. And why? Best practices.
I wanna know temp you know, I I communicate with other painting contractors all over the country. Sure. I like to know what the temperature read is out there with hiring and and best practices and culture changes. So I think it's, you know, do I never I also network where I'm located. Sure. But I think that I think it's I think it's important to network. I think it's important to be amongst your peers. I think so many So few people do it.
It's that whole competition thing, and, it's too bad, I think. I think there's so much to be learned because you know what? We're all living a really great place in a big area, and there's plenty of work for everybody. That's right. I I think we can just learn a lot from our up the air. Yeah. 100%. I love that perspective. It's very abundance mindset as opposed to scarcity and and you're right.
There's there's plenty of work, especially if you're doing the things that you talked about earlier in the show, which is differentiating yourself from those folks that aren't your peers maybe, but they're just in the industry. Mhmm. I think that's and there are lots of ways to do that pretty quickly if someone's, like, actually taking the business pretty seriously or not. So Okay. Next question is this.
If you only had 1 hour in the week, so each week, you only get 1 hour to work on the business. What would you do in that 1 hour to successfully to successfully run your business now like you do now? I had 1 hour. I would Speedcoach 3 division. Sale, finance, and production. There you go. What other divisions are there? Well, you know, so I always say the business owner is He's the guy that usually the small business already, dealing with the finances, and he's dealing with the guys in the field.
Yep. And he's dealing with the customers. Right? And, you know, and throw in the marketing and all that other stuff in there. You try to deal with all those. And if you can you can learn to let go and give those responsibilities to somebody else, right, and, you know, hire good people. You know, if I'm the smartest guy in the room, I I'm worried. So, you know, I just I just think that if I had an opportunity, I would I like to coach. What I like to do.
Yeah. Yeah. I I think the skill set, like you said, it's best used. And then, obviously, you could touch those most important areas. I think that'd be great. Alright. Last question. Are you ready? I'm ready. If you lost it all, Sheldon, what would you do? What would you do? Oh, yeah. This is where they would probably say they'd put me in today. A special place or something, but if I lost it all tomorrow, Yeah. Which, Donald, and guess what I'll be doing. Chaz same thing.
You'd start painting the next day. Oh, man. Looking all about lessons. I had blur Chaz I never got to implement. Right? So who are the that that I learned too late. Right? You know, I'll tell you what then. I'm with. The number one thing I wish I peddler or new is to plan the end at the beginning. Yep. Because everything you do From that visionary point, at the beginning of your career, we'll have steps towards the end of the career. I understand. And and and instead, we we just yeah.
I know you'd think about it too late. And then you have to cram things in. That's right. So what but, yeah, Chaz I would I would I would I would enjoy to do it all over again, and I would do a lot of things, Dick. I, you know, I just so appreciate a few things that you just said. I wanna just say him again for the benefit of the listener, but you just said I would enjoy to do it all over again. And I think that that takes a certain level of crazy, which I put myself in the same category.
So I'm not calling you out at all. I think it's why guys like me have started multiple companies. Because I just get that the certain feeling of wow. Look what look what I can do or look what we did as a team. And and let's go do it again in different industry or different different type of thing. And so I I I love the the the word enjoy. I think you just took pleasure in the idea. Like, you were just I could see it in your mind. You were like, wow.
If I could let go of all these things, I could do it again, and that would be so much fun. I I just think that there is something to be said about a guy who's been in business 40 years who has that response rather than, well, you know, I'm just a couple years out. Probably to just hang it up. You know, like, that's just not the guy who's gonna be on the show, number 1, but then number 2, who's gonna be at the level that you are. Like, you just you you just didn't get here by accident.
That's what I want the listener to hear Chaz Sheldon get here by accident, and it's this mindset right here, this I would enjoy to do it all over. And, of course, all the to apply all the lessons that you didn't get to yet, like, such a abundance mentality. I just so love it. What do you wanna add to that? Yeah. I could I could see you over there.
Typing. I think I think that, you know, if I was if I had learned to relax a little bit more or or Chaz a couple different hobbies, I might have chosen to be, you know, a bartender in the Caribbean. But I I didn't. So Now you can just go there and enjoy Now and just go. The bar in the Caribbean. Well, I'm not a bartender in the career. Exactly. Exactly.
Well, your perspective has just been an honor to hear, and I just appreciate the time Chaz as it's the most precious thing that we have and the fact that you would give it here today, how can the listener connect with you, Sheldon? How can they find you online or your website or do you wanna have folks reach out to you? I'd love for them to go to connect. Yeah. Our website is Stewart, s t u w a r t paint. Dotcom, and, of course, I'm available by email anytime, sheldon at stewartpay. Perfect.
You have been just absolutely incredible. I hope that our relationship continues because, man, to have guys like you who are peers, but also years ahead in mindset and perspective is just so valuable. And so I just thank you for being here and giving us the time. We really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you for all you do. This is a great, great, great platform. Yep. We'll talk soon. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today.
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