On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. I everybody out there listening, like, you could be very successful, whatever you define success Chaz. Just have your right team in place, your right systems in place, and be adaptable because no matter what business you're in, you just have to be able to pivot.
You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolf featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the reel of the reel. On what it takes to build a assess and how you too can get there.
Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolf. I'm your host, gathering the Kings, I've got Dan Rivers on the stage today. What's up, dude? How you doing? How you doing, man? You know, we were just talking off the air and because I'm having a crush day.
I just had an awesome weekend, and it sounds like you've had some awesome trips here recently. You were just telling me you went to Ireland and Denver and in Boston with your family. So I'm excited to have this conversation with you. We're gonna pull from both of our recent traveling experiences. Awesome. But, Dan, tell us tell us what kind of business that you're in. Where how are you coming to the King stage today? What are you up to?
Yeah. I'm in real estate, kind of a quick background about me. I've been in real estate for about 15, 16 years now. Started my journey about twenty four years old in property management down the table, Florida. It's actually kind of a cool store. I would tell you this. I was working at a bank just just, you know, one of the people who are trying to open up checking accounts and stuff. And I'm doing a loan for a guy from Boston, and this is down at Tampa.
Okay. Just happen to be doing alone with them, and I'm chatting with them. His name's Sean. And at the end of it, he's like, I really like the way you do business. You wanna come do property management? And I'm like, don't know what that is, but sure. Let's do it. Let's give it a try. Well, this is the first time you met this guy, or have you met him, like, repeatedly? First time I met him. Wow. Wolfe, I'm sorry. First dealing with him.
I might have met him, like, 2 or 3 times to get the loan wrapped up. Sure. Sure. But it's for a situation. For a situation. And I'm like, sure. Why not? I'll give it a go. I'm twenty four years old. I'll give it a crack. Yeah. I I start day 1. Here's 16 properties, including high rises on Clearwater Beach and and different parts of Tampa. Yes. About how to take luck. You know? 1500 units. I'm responsible for 2000 units, whatever it was. Wow. Yeah. So, that was my journey in real estate.
And one of the things that it really taught me is you gotta learn by fire. I had to get organized real quick, and I had to learn and learn. Yeah. To learn a bit. That's awesome, man. I love I love what you shared there. I'm always gonna try to pull out some some things that you're saying, but but, you know, kind of underlying for the for the listener here. But what I heard you just say, man, is when when something comes across the desk, it doesn't mean that you say yes to everything.
Mhmm. But, man, you said yes without even thinking. You know, I'm sure you thought a little bit, but oh, I think we can all think about those moments where we're just like, you know what? That feels right. Yes. And and and most of those, I think those moments turn out right. So I think that that's easier. You're already dropping nuggets on us in your first sentence. Listen to the intuition, say yes. Go hard. You know? So okay.
Well, so before we jump into your history and a little bit more of that story and some of the other things you've done in real estate, I wanna know at this level, right, like, at the king's level or you've you've got a healthy business. You're making great money. You've got a team. All these things that we that we're gonna talk about. Why do you keep pushing even at this level? I think one of the biggest most important things is your why.
Whatever your why is and you need to determine what that is. And and and that's fine. It's different for everybody. Like, like, for me, my why, it's a little selfish, but time. Like, it's time for me and time for my family. But it's me too, because if I'm not happy, then I'm not right, they're not, you know, I'm not gonna treat them well. So you gotta know that why. So my whole goal is to just have as much time as possible. I tell friends and people all the time. I'm like, I wanna be that dad.
When I go to my daughter's, you know, whatever she wants to do softball basketball recital, it doesn't really matter. When I go, they're like, why is this dad always here? Does he work? What does he what does he do? How is he always around volunteering and around? That's that's what I wanna accomplish. Yes. So that's why it's almost like a a little bit of a trophy.
I don't know if you can relate to this at all, but, you know, when I go to events with my kids, I'm not the only dad, but let's just be honest. We're pretty much the only dad. And and it's it's not like a I'm a better Chaz, but it's like, man, I'm doing something right.
That to me, like, it has really nothing to do with the fact that nobody else's there as far as dads because I'm not really comparing that, but it for me, like, what you were just saying, it's, like, one of those things, like, a a check for me. Like, I know that I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. If I can take the day off and and go to whatever the the the school called it, like, outdoor day or whatever. I was helping with an obstacle course or something. You know?
So is that is that kind of like what you feel there, or is it is it like a, like, I've, like, like, I just desire to be with the family or what, like, tell me tell me the innards of what's happened on the inside for you. Yeah. It's more of like, I'm so I'm forty one years old right now. I'll be forty 2 in a few years, and I really didn't start the big part, the investment part Chaz working for myself, vetting on myself till I was 38. So it's only been about three and a half years.
Yeah. So I'm a little bit I'm gonna point in my life where I'm like, hey. That's great. I make good money. I do all that stuff, but it just I I I'm on my second wife. I'm divorced. This is but she is I couldn't be any happier. Like, this is the perfect Wolfe. Like, she is and you have a beautiful daughter. So it is it's really just about I wanna make sure that when I'm seventy, when I'm eighty, when I'm ninety, whenever however long I live, Chaz I look back and I don't regret time not being.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I love that perspective of I think a lot of the time spent, especially in use, you know, it's like we're just after the Wolfe, but when you have perspective of you know, whether it's a divorce and a marriage or kids or all these things that happen through the course of time you look back and you're like, wow. My time is pretty valuable, and I would rather spend it doing fill in the blank. You know? So, okay, let's get into some of your story here.
I'd love to obviously hear how you got started, but how did it transition? From, you know, you work in 26100 units at 24 to to, you know, obviously, 15, 14 years later, starting your own things a couple years ago, Were there a little side hustles along the way? Did you start, or was it just starting 3 years ago? Give us a little bit history there. No. Honestly, it was I had stopped property management. We'll say around 2016 did a little bit of pavement sales, concrete sales.
I had a good friend that opened up a company. He just believed in me, so I was like, I'll give it a shot. I don't know what I'm doing, but let's have some fun. Yeah. Let's learn sales. And I learned a lot on Chaz, though. I just learned, like, the freedom of selling and kinda making your own paycheck to some degree. Yeah. And then my wife, one of the deals that we had when I met her, she's like, because she was about to leave Boston when we had first met. And she's like, hey. I'll stay around.
She knew something was but she's like, I need to get out of here someday. Yeah. Sure. Let's do it. So, literally, I think it was the end of 2017. We just took a road trip to North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and we realized we wanna move to Charleston, South Carolina. We quit our jobs. I didn't I just said, hey. She she landed a job 2 weeks before we moved here. And I just said, hey. I'd really like to get my real estate license. I enjoy real estate. I enjoy the sales end of things.
I kinda wanna put that both together. And she believed in me. She said, go. Go for it. And that's what happened. I just went. Got my real estate license. About 5 months in, I met some investors. Great local network of investors down here in Charleston. Yeah. I met investors, and I was like, wait a second. That's what I wanna do. I wanna invest in real estate, and it checked me 38 years to read Rich Dad Fordad and figure that path.
But, well, I did, and and I've been able to kinda grow it over the past 3 years. Yeah. And and and to liken it even to the listener here, because sometimes, I mean, we're we're sure we have people listening who are in real estate, but we've got people who aren't also. But to kinda tie these two pieces together, what I heard you say is how you got started was because of the sales and, like, property management experience, you thought, okay.
I'll take I'll go I'll take a shot at, you know, selling real estate. Which to me is, like, you know, you're in the business. Like, you're you're an individual salesperson, 1099, which is kinda like running an individual business. Maybe you got a team member or something. You know, maybe as an agent, you've got an assistant or something, but it's really just you. It's trading time for money. And that's mostly what listeners today right now probably are doing.
They have a team member or 2 or 3 or 4, but but they haven't cracked that that 7 figure level yet where they've been able to, like, really press into leveraging their time, really press into leveraging their resources or or key relationships, which you just did. You said I took relationships and flip my perspective to okay. I don't wanna trade time for money. I wanna build a system. So in this case, you're building a real estate but someone can do this in business too.
They can build a business system, which Rich Dad already talks about, where you have this thing. We gotta get into this place where we're where we Chaz thing that's not dependent upon our actual, you know, time in, time out effort. So I love how you started us off. I want you to tell me Chaz beginning of the journey. Still in the history here. I wanna know a little bit more. Did you just like, okay. Great. I'm gonna get an investor. Like, I'm gonna go get money.
Like, tell us how that actually transpired once you met these guys and then you started doing deals. Yeah. No. So, no, it was more of, like, I started real estate I did I got a one of my first listings was a piece of land in a small town here. It's a junk listing, but What it did was I ended up meeting this lady room, and I didn't know at the time, but she is now one of the biggest powerhouse flippers here in Charleston. Yeah. And she had Was she then? No. She had just started her printer.
I think she might have done 1 or 2 flips. Yeah. And then we just started I was her agent. She was flipping, and we just we did probably bought 18.20 deals together in the 1st 12 months of knowing other and just grew close and helped each other grow and get going. And that's when I and then then I started going up to the art low or a meetup, but those not in real estate, you know, your local business meetups. Like, just got around the same type of people.
Yeah. And just met some absolutely amazing powerhouses here. I mean, people I know one of those guys that became friends with that I really learned some stuff from, he works with 2 other partners and has 4000 plus rental units, actually passively invest in his some of his multi family. And just just some great people down here, but it all started from just just kinda just meeting a couple people figuring out the business and then saying, you know what? They're doing it. Why can't I?
You know, she's running a 7 figure slipping business. Why can't I run this more like a business? You know? Yeah. Because like you just mentioned, cash flow quadrants, you could be you know, an employee, self employee, which a lot of people are as a realtor, a business owner, which is what I wanna be, and then ultimately, that investor. And I just really focused on that. I was like, alright. I'm in the s. Let me move to the BNI. Yep. Exactly. Yeah. Love that perspective.
Okay. So let's talk about along the journey here, especially since you've you've grown quite quickly. If you started, you know, roughly 3 years ago, you know, three, three and a half years ago and and and here you are or 4 years ago, I guess. I'm over here trying to calculate math. I mean, to be where you are now, like, you've, like, you've moved fast Chaz my point. And so in there, you made some good and bad decisions.
I wanna know a good decision right away off the top Chaz comes to your mind of something that that you've done that would be applicable for the listeners to take away that they could implement today. Hiring the right people. Give give us an example. So I I realized quickly that I can't do it all. And if I try to, I'm just gonna fail. So I brought on an operations guy, director of operations, And I said, okay. Let's partner up. You handle what are your strengths? You handle that.
I'll take my strengths, and I'll I'll continue to sell. And It's so important. I don't know if you ever listened to Steve Swartzman's what it No. I haven't, actually. It's a great book. He's, like, one of the creators of Blackstone, and he talks about bringing on nines and tens. Like, you can all day long bring on, you know, sixes and sevens and save your money, but you bring on nines and tens and your operation just levels up. So I offered this guy a good package. I said, hey. Listen.
I want you to come join me. I saw his he was dabbling in real estate, but he had just smart, good person. And I was like, alright. I'm gonna bring on this operations night, and it just it just that helped me that one will help me just brush my goals last year in July. Like, that that one little will really help me level up in business. How did you know that you needed, in this case, an operations guy and not a sales guy? Like, how did you know who to bring on? Well, number 1, I I recommend this.
I don't care what business or industry you're in. Get a good mentor slash coach. And my coach is actually a business partner in some ventures now, but she she is amazing. She's a powerhouse, and she runs her business. Very similar to how I wanna run my business. So I gotta coach. I saw how she ran our business, and I saw her her right hand person is amazing. And we were talking. I was like, I need that role. And I figured out quickly.
And what I did was I jotted down all the tasks that I need done what I like to do and what I need. I don't need a sales guy. I could sell and and build relationships all day long because it's all about just hearing, listening, and taking care of someone's needs. Yeah. I needed someone to do the operations part because I got ADHD through the roof, and I'm a I said, no more than 5 minutes. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Yeah. So I just we figured that role, and it kinda rolls into I literally 2 hours ago just hired an executive assistant. Yeah. Because I realized I needed that role as well. I'm still not. I need to be more organized and stay on top of things a little bit more as I grow. So I just said, spent the money, and I just hired a a 10 executive assistant so that I can have a powerhouse of a team. So I think team building is big takeaway here. Yeah. It's huge.
And and I think that what you even said a minute ago, like, the practicality of how you did it. And and and for the listener who's paying attention right now, You have your pen and you have your notebook. I want you to write this down. He said he made a list. Like, it's that easy. Think about what you're doing. And write down everything. Ever rethink. I was literally just on a roundtable this morning. I'm telling a guy across the Zoom. Write it down, bro. Everything.
Everything from the email to the what you did to get up to, like, everything. Some of those you're gonna give away, some of those you're not, some of those you want to give away, but you can't quite yet. And so I think that it doesn't that's the delegation piece. Right? You have to identify it first and give it away. And then to your second piece, which is the building teams and the leadership piece, Chaz, like, that's long lasting, like, because I can delegate all day long.
If I find the list, if I find the list, and then give it away, that's delegation. We can do that pretty simply. But if I have to delegate to different people constantly because they're not willing to stick around because either they're either the wrong person or they're not a 9 or a 10, like you said, or they don't believe in you because you're a bad leader. Like, that's the second layer to that, which is you've gotta grow you.
As a leader, you gotta know how to lead people and how to pull the best out of people because that 9 or that 10, if you're not a good leader, They ain't gonna be there long anyway even if they are a 9 or 10. Right? And you gotta treat them for their value. What I so, you know, one of the mistakes out of the many, many mistakes I've made in my life was I tried to instead of an executive assistant, I tried to cheaply hire a part time.
It you know, and I'm sorry, full time, but an administrative person. Yeah. They weren't a bad person. They just weren't the right fit. Like, the expectations I had weren't be a met, and it wasn't their fault. It was my fault. For hiring wrong. It was my fault for not Yeah. Probably honing in on what I needed. So yeah. Again, that's for coaching and mentoring help. They said, you know what? Bite the bullet. You gotta pay this range. And go get a powerhouse. Yeah. It's important. You know?
Yeah. The difference there is huge. I I normally don't share a whole bunch as far as, like, from my perspective here, is good. We're right on the on a topic that I've recently gone through, so I'm gonna share it real quick. So, obviously, I've got multiple businesses, different industries, and so I I have done the team building thing. I know how to delegate. Like, all of these things come at this point pretty natural, but to the the layer that you just said.
I had gotten really good at going, okay. Like, this business has a manager or has a a key person, but I have now all of these key people, and then there's this, like, gray area that is really me, but it's associated with all these things I have to do with. And so just to to hone in on that perspective. For me, it was okay.
I've got a key person in all these different angles, but then there's so many things that I need to do in order to provide the value that I need to in in each of the different businesses that I have, and I needed someone to help me with that. Right, like, to know a little bit of all of it, or to be that executive assistant really is what it is, to do all of the things with me or to support me Chaz I'm doing it.
It's not just they're associated to this one business or to this one project or this one deal. It's like, no. That they've got a little bit of everything. And then Really, now they have the keys to everything. In fact, I just gave her some information the other day. She said, I can effectively ruin you with all the information that you've given me. I was like, yep. Thank goodness Chaz you won't. You know? But it's like, you were really gonna give something away.
You give away, you know, that that that close best thing Chaz that executive assistant role, I know the next 12 months for you is gonna be incredible as far as growth wise because you just freed yourself of many different, you know, things that that person's gonna do for you is gonna be incredible. And it's scary too. It's scary. Like, again, yeah, I grew quickly. So you gotta realize I haven't been making crazy money for 10 years. It's been a couple years of some strength.
So, like, it's a little bit harder to do Chaz. And I just said, you know what? I believe in my I just had to believe in myself. I'm like, I I've already been gambling on myself. It's my my wife gambles on me. Like, Yep. I'm like, I'm going to go for it. And and you gotta think of it and show it. Like, maybe it's 6 months you think of it as 12. A lot of people are like, oh, I gotta hire this person. I'm paying them. We'll just throw a number, like, paying someone's $100 a year. Right?
You know, when you break it down, you're paying them 8 grand a month or 81. Yeah. Something doesn't work out in 6 months, then you make a change at that point. Yep. It's amazing on what you can accomplish when you bet on yourself. Yeah. I love that because I think that if I if we're being honest, the listener right now, They've bet on their Wolfe for sure because they're not working for somebody else. Right? They they did take the leave. They do run a good business. But it's limited.
They haven't moved on because of this right here. I mean, there's several things. I mean, team building, hiring, delegating all these things we've been talking about, but this is the baseline of it. You haven't hired out or really pressed into finding the right person or or fighting through some of the bad people. Because you haven't bet on yourself enough. You haven't been willing to pay enough because you haven't bet on yourself enough.
You haven't uploaded or upgraded your level at your leadership skill because you haven't believed in yourself or bet on yourself enough. And so I think that what you just said is Probably the bedrock, dude. Like, if I had to sum up probably what is keeping the listener right now in where they are, they just haven't bet on themselves deeply enough. Right? And it's it's hard. It's hard because, obviously, super hard, believing themselves. I'm sure they believe in themselves.
But it's, like, it's it's scary when, at least for me, and I'm sure for a lot of people, when someone else's livelihood is in my hands. Like, I don't care about myself. I'll figure out myself, but when someone else's livelihoods in my hands, that's the next level of responsibility. And that's scary. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Well, you kind of already said you kinda correlated that a little bit to a bad decision, but I'm gonna ask you anyway.
What's a what's something that you did that you just you know, face palm. You wish you you couldn't you take it back. You know, something that you could keep us away from, a bad decision. What what was that? So many, but I hope so, which by the way, I do have a motto. It's either you win or you learn. You never you never fail. You never lose. You win or you learn. So my biggest learning lesson Wolfe, one of my big ones was, especially in a market like this.
So one of my avenues of of businesses is flipping homes. K. Yep. And I was about to go to Hawaii's babymoon. It's like, literally 3 days before. I go look at a home, and down here in Charleston, South Carolina, I don't know if it's where you're at, but this big termite issues down here. Like, there's a lot of termites, and they could do a lot of destruction just in 6 months. Oh, yeah. So I looked at a house real quick. I looked down. I saw a little bit of damage. I I knew a number ahead.
I don't know. We'll say, you know, $50,000 budget to renovate this home. Yeah. I go away, lock it up. They started doing the work. They opened up the Wolfe. $35,000 changer. $35,000. And the contractor was not written me off. He had to rebuild the entire structure of the house. And about 5. Wow. And making money on that deal. I almost did because of an appraising market. And I had it under contract, and I would have made, like, $1500, but it didn't appraise, so I lost 500. I'm always happier.
I lost money because it needed to, like, that was, like, it it needed to be a learning lesson. That was No matter how much you're in a rush, it's I have systems in place, get that termite inspector out there. Check the and and it could be the same, and I know you said, a lot of people have a lot of different businesses. It could be the same to any business. Make sure you do your due diligence. It's just the bottom line.
Don't skip over something because you've been doing enough of them and you think you're okay. Yeah. I love that perspective. You know, when you said that I I'm glad I got the loss, basically. Right? And I used to say this when I played basketball, especially if we were in tournament style, if if we could if we could get a loss early and still, like, circle back as the underdog.
I that was always my preference, not that I wanted to lose, but I would much rather show up to the championship game with a loss as opposed to being undefeated for this exact reason because we've been through it. We know what it feels like to to be pressurized all the way and then to not come back. And so we know we knew how to push through. And that's why the underdog wins sometimes is because they've they've been through that that moment, or in this case, when you when you got the loss.
So now you know what to do in that that termite scenario. So you you learned, as you said. Yep. Okay. So thinking about decisions now and, obviously, decisions are huge in our business, but, like, you've given us a good and bad one. Do you have a discipline or, like, a process that you follow to, like, help you make good ones? Repeatedly?
Chaz. So what I've been trying to implement, again, I know I mentioned a little bit, but my ADHD mind, I'm all over the place a lot, but that's why I'm bringing in the team is I just sat down and we started doing a lot of checklist. So pretty much for everything that that we do. So I know I don't think I really went over this too much, but I have a few different I'm a I'm a real estate agent here in Charleston, South Carolina.
Yep. I do about 60 deals a year on the real estate side on the retail. My slip, I do flip a certain amount of homes. I actually go by gross income necessarily number of homes. Yeah. Let's try to analyze my goals. So retail, flip, buy and hold. I do see private money lending with some partners. And then we do some off marketing. I don't like to say wholesale because we, honestly, we off market to try to keep them for ourselves here for my clients.
Yeah. It's kind of a a a array of different businesses. Yeah. So I'm sorry. I just, got off track there. The you're you're a process to make a good decision. Thank you. So each one of those, we have checklists for each one. So when it comes to residential sales, not only do I have a buyer and a seller packet, I can give to my clients so that they know what to expect, then it'll have the internal checklist.
For flipping, we have the internal checklist before repurchase it at after repurchase it, how we're handling with the contractor. So I think SOPs and checklists are extremely important, and they don't have to be perfect. And they're they're working documents. That's fine. Right? Just get something in place. And then when you make a mistake, you you add Chaz. You don't do it again. Right. That's right. No. It's it that's a that that process that you just described is applicable in every business.
Not only just write down what you're doing. That also, as you write it down, it'll give you perspective of, like, do I need to do that step? Does that step belong there? Like, just the fact that you just write it down is step 1. But then what you said there at the end of just It's alright. It doesn't have like, this isn't the final version. You can change it. If you mess up, you just you just add it in. You don't forget it next time. Not one decision's gonna take you down.
Unless you let it be the thing that just happens over and over and over. Right? And that's the definition of insanity. We keep doing the same thing. It's definitely different results. So you just it results. You're adaptable. And your system is is systematic. Like, you can do this. I everybody out there listening, like, you could be very successful, whatever you define success Chaz.
Just have your right team in place, your right systems in place, and be adaptable because no matter what business you're in, especially real estate right now, you see everything rocking, You just have to be able to pivot. Yep. Pivot and move. I love it. Okay. So are you ready for the, the speed round here, Dan? Mister Rivers on the speed round. Here we go. One metric. You can only pick 1 in all the different businesses that you just told me about.
What's the one metric that you would track forever and ever. Forever and ever meaning you could only pick the 1. On how my business is surviving, Sure. I was gonna say if I can pull more personal route, I'd say relationships. How many relationships I have? That'd be the metric of if I'm successful, I'm around successful people. Yeah. K. And so does that do you think that that translates into the businesses also? Is it relationships? Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I have I've created some of my businesses because of relationships. I think that's one of the strongest things I could my private money lending business I'm with some amazing people, and we are actually one of my coaches say, I'm sorry. I know it's a big round, but I'd rather have a piece of watermelon than a whole grape. And, like, you just you just need Chaz.
Like, if you're around great people and you work with great people, if you checks and balances are in place and you could do some amazing things. So, yeah, I'd say relationships with people. That's good, man. Okay. And what book would you recommend that a 6 figure earner or a business owner read? I'm actually listening to an audiobook right now called psychology of Money, and it's amazing. Okay. Very good. What's your what's your takeaway so far in that book?
Just that it's I think one of the biggest takeaways is everybody's gonna look at life and money differently because it's 99.5 percent based on your experiences, and you only experience point 00. Is there a one of what, like, the world has to offer? Sure. Well, like, don't just write someone off because they may think different than you because they have different experiences. And, I mean, it's just it's a very powerful book. Yeah. So I highly recommend it.
Yeah. Sounds like it sounds like one that would encourage one to be open minded, which I think open mindedness for growth brings, like you said, the team members, the ability to delegate, like, you're open to all these probably new concepts Chaz you're not doing in your business. We're not doing very well right now. And and that's why you probably haven't gotten past the 6 figure mark yet. So this is super practical. I'm loving what what Dan's given to you.
So what is the the actually, Do you intentionally network and or mastermind with other entrepreneurs and why? Yes. K. Absolutely intentionally. Like, we just talked about coming back from Denver, being in those groups. I think it's important to be in groups, but in the right groups. Yeah. I think it's gotta be your fit. It's gotta be your personality around the proper people. Because right now, when the economy is booming, everybody's an expert, everybody could teach you how to be better.
Yep. But that's right. We wanna be in groups that I know are gonna be around for the next ten years, and I'm really gonna learn some stable, valuable lessons from not get rich quick. So It's good. I can't emphasize enough how important it is to be in the right rooms at the right people, paying attention, and following their lead. Yep. Love that. Okay. If you only had 1 hour in the week to work on the business, what would you do in that hour to successfully run your business like you do now?
Would Just look at the MACRIS. I look at my KPIs on how the the business is operating. I would look at the major items that are bringing in the most money, bringing in the most revenue, and then meet with my team, and make sure they have the proper direction she execute. Just like that. Last question. Are you ready? Yes. If you lost it all, what would you do? Start over again. You sound so confident.
I would I mean, once you, Larry, once you've been in that room and you've You've made money and you've done it. It's not really you you've you've gained knowledge. Like, you didn't lose at all. You might have lost money. You didn't lose your knowledge. You didn't lose your relationships unless you burnt them, which hopefully you did. It's true. Just lost money. So now at this point, you just rebuild it. Yeah. Love the simplicity of that answer.
Dan, how you've got a lot of ways or reasons why someone would wanna connect with you. I mean, obviously, you're a wealth of knowledge when it comes to business and team building. You're doing deals. I'm sure that there's deals that people can get in on with you. If they wanna invest or if they just connect you with you and they wanna, like, reach out, how can find it. Yeah. You can go. My website's danvibbers.com nice and easy. So you can go in there.
You can take a look at what I'm about, and you can connect with me in there. In Instagram, it's at a Dan Rivers Realtorinvestor. So you can also hop on Instagram and catch me, but, yeah, please go to danrivers.com. It's awesome, man. The the value that you've provided today, both in and out of just the real estate investment space, I think, is awesome, but I think the key takeaways here if the listener was paying attention, they're gonna have some growth. So thank you for adding value.
We do not take it lightly. We wish you absolutely nothing but success in all that you're doing. Yeah. Thank you for having me, Chaz. I really appreciate it. Yeah, buddy. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away.
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