On today's episode of Gathering the Kings. There are all these those days when you want to really fire somebody. It gets really bad. There are times when it really gets bad. And when your business that are starting up and you initially have financial troubles. So you have people troubles, and there is a lot of other things going on. Your family is not really happy with how things happen. And those days, like I said, you know, it's almost every day.
But then because of the passion that you have and you instill the same passion in your people and get everybody to work together, things turn around at the end of the day. So you're worried about it a lot, but at the later stage, you realize all that worry, most of nothing, you know, because things clear out, Then when you really work for something, it always works out something good. You are listening to Gathering the Kings with Chaz Wolfe.
Featuring fellow 78 and even 9 figure business owners who have real battle scars from business and life but have prevailed as the king that they are designed to be. We welcome high performing entrepreneurs to the stage in order to reveal the reel of the reel. On what it takes to build a successful business today. We dissect the good and bad decisions they've made along assess and how you too can get there.
Through this dialogue, you will learn the value of growing your network and surrounding yourself with power players and keys like today's guest. Grab your pen and notebook because we're about to dive in. What's up, everybody? I'm Chaz Wolfe, gathering the king's podcast. Today, I've got Jeevan Vargas here on the King stage. My brother from across the Wolfe. How are you? I'm great. Thanks. Good to be on your show.
You know, like, I've I've seen some of your podcasts, and it's been great, you know, what you do with people and various industries and how you've been interacting with them, the kind of knowledge that you've been spreading. So it's great to be on the show. Yeah, man. I I really appreciate those kind words. The listeners like you, even get to chime in and and hear from different people across the country and across the Wolfe, like they do here today.
I love what you said when you when we jumped on here, you said that it's not just about the big names because there's a lot of successful people. And and sometimes talking to somebody who's in the trenches, as you said, a it's sometimes easier to to learn from them. So, hopefully, you and I going back and forth talking about our trenches here today can help the listeners. Is that cool with you? Yeah. Perfect.
So it's it's it's more about, you know, so we are looking at helping people who's starting up with their businesses and the small businesses. For them, this makes more sense than, you know, listening to somebody who's a $1,000,000,000 business. You know? So, yeah, let's let's do it. That's good. Okay. Tell us what kind of business that you have, Jeevan? So we are in the technology business. I mean, so we created a plan form called, and we are transforming the unorganized industry.
So when I say that, you know, how do customers find an expert around them? You're looking for an electrician or plumber or a cleaning service, even an accountant. There are things a lot of things that do find it difficult. When you get on the internet, you search for an electrician, you get a lot of responses, search responses, then you've got colleagues, one of them.
So there are a lot of times when you think, you know, if you had an assistant who's gonna take care of all the calling for you and, you know, make sure that you get somebody the right time. So even if you call somebody and, you know, tell them that you need, and they'll repair that. So the guy is gonna say I'm gonna come tomorrow. And, you know, tomorrow, you're waiting for him. You've kept everything away, you know, all your Wolfe today, and you're waiting for him.
And then you call him and he says, oh, yeah. I'm you know, just finishing up another Wolfe. So it's gonna take me some more time, or can we make it tomorrow? You know, so it it just keeps saying it's a circle that, you know, keeps happening. So you've spent a lot of time. You you spend time. You've called up people. You've you've searched on the net, and then you've you've spent your money yourself.
And then finally, this guy comes up and, you know, what happens is he comes, does his work, but do you feel that you have done all the job? Right? And you're actually paying him for what you've done, the pain that you've gone through. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, you don't negotiate. There are there's nothing to do. You just give him whatever he says because you've come through so much of pain in getting this So that's exactly what we are thinking about with technology.
Even when we say it's technology, it's a process that we are changing. It is just not a technology company. It's a process. And when we talk and when we talk about experts, we expanded it quite a little more than that. You know? So on Jaboy, you can find home repairs. You can get mobility services. You can even book a taxi and a get a driver when you want them. You can get delivery done. You can even book tickets to events around you. You can book deals on the platform.
And we also help with community management. You know? So there are a lot of things that are on the platform. It's just a technology that we are building that it enables you to get everything. So it's more like having a personal assistant. There are a lot of personal assistants, but they don't do these kind of jobs for you. So it's like someone taking care of everything. So the customer send a request and everything else is done by a customer service team. Really.
Like, you know, so that's the kind of work that we do for customers. And it works. It works really well, and they have fee. You know? So that's exact. That's what we are looking for. And Yeah. So your your customer is the the consumer who needs things done, but doesn't really wanna spend the time on the, excuse me, the nitty gritty, and they can hire your company to do the nitty gritty form. That's right. And we connect. So on the other side, we connect people who need who're looking for jobs.
At the lower cost, you know, because for an electrician or a plumber, because there is so much competition, and you've got to be tech savvy. You've got to advertise yourselves on these platforms for you to get these jobs. So we're helping them get these jobs without going through all Chaz trouble and we don't actually charge them anything in advance. You know, you do a work. You pay us something.
You know, it's it's that kind of a I mean, that's how we've done a that's the business model that we're running. So people are really happy, like, in in the cities that we are already live and there are electricians that are that are making probably three times what they were normally doing. You know? So on I mean, we've got customers on both sides, you know, both our customers, you know, we've got the consumers plus these experts, Wolfe direct customers. Yeah. Love that.
Okay. So what I wanna know is at this stage in the game, What's your why? What's the bigger picture? You've obviously had a certain level of success. You wouldn't be here today if you hadn't, but you're still pushing. You're still you're still going after it. It's 12:30 your time, and you're like, oh, this is normal time for me. What what what's what's the bigger play for you? Why are you doing this? I I think, I mean, it is the sense of achievement.
Every small thing that you do, every small achievement, every small at advancement and whatever you're doing, gives you Chaz rush of energy. You know? So it it makes you feel empowered. And you you may have Chaz does all your life. You have 20 years of experience. You have 40 years of experience, but every time you achieve that small thing, you feel good about it. And I think that's the first thing.
That's the the passion to do something different and the feeling that you get when you achieve it That's what drives me. You know? Okay. There is obviously the money and everything else, but I I I think a lot of people do things because they love it. So there is a passion you, you know, people love racing, people love football. There is a passion and everything. So this is also something of that sort. Yeah. Obviously, it makes money also.
Yeah. What happens on the days, you know, when when you when you don't love it when you're you're not passionate about it, you know, because we have we all have those days too. What what keeps you doing it? Yeah. A lot of them. Exactly. Thanks for being honest on that. On those days, when when you don't have the passion and the love and the feel goods, Okay. What do you what do you what do you rest on? What do you put your head on that that keeps you going?
There are all these those days when you want to really fire somebody. You know, you want to then, you know, it it it it gets really bad. There are times when it really gets bad. And when your business that are starting up, and you initially have financial troubles. And you have people troubles, and there is a lot of other things going on. Your family is not really happy with how things happening because, you know, they're all new to this. You know? So it it it it gets very difficult.
And those days, like I said, you know, it's almost every day. But then the because of the passion that you have and you instill the same passion in your people and get everybody to work together. Things turn around at the end of the day. So you're worried about it a lot, but at the, you know, at at later stage, you realize all that worry was for nothing, you know, because things clear out. And Right? When you really work for something, it always works out for something good.
So that's that's how it's been. I mean, even today, right now, if something goes long, I'm just gonna still don't have the same stress that I every day have, but in a few hours, that'll be gone, and they'll be back to the happy Chaz. Yeah. Exactly. Knowing that it's only temporary. Right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. It's all part of the journey. Let's go a little practical here. I wanna know, like, how did you get started in business? What's your background a little bit?
Why tech technology, why this space of helping people get stuff done, like, give us a backdrop of it. So I basically, like, career, you know, I I'm a finance guy. So I've I started as an accountant, but then I slowly, you know, as I got older and my profession, I start got into the outsourcing world. So, you know, we were making things better. So and my specialty was finance transformation and the search transformation.
So you take you look at processes of companies and we look at how you can make them better. Right? And then I was moving around places. You know, I was moving from city to city and every way you go, you have these problems. You know, you need an electrician, you need a plumber, you need a cleaner. And when you move around, very difficult because, you know, you need to ask around.
You need to ask your neighbor, your house on, our people, you know, so if finally find somebody and then you go to that whole trouble that I talked about in the beginning. You know? And So it's it's been in our mind, you know, where where where have I moved, I Chaz this problem even when you're staying in one place, you have these problems. How do you get rid of So it's been there for a long time, but I Chaz no background of technology.
And then I started seeing mobile applications giving you, you know, let's say things like Google and, you know, other companies. And then you realize, okay, this could solve my problem. I mean, Probably it's already there, then you start doing data search and everything. Probably somebody is already doing this, but then with my background, of process transformation, same thing, the outsourcing. I thought I, you know, I I had a better Chaz of doing it. Because so now I've got the technology.
I know. I know what to need to be what needs to be done on the technology side. But then I also have the process experience. So I put both together. Got got a group of people together, like, cofound technology team. We all got together, and then we started working on it. So I don't think I was born entrepreneur, but, you know, it happened over a period of time and a lot of thought is gone into getting this time.
So I worked for 20 years in corporate and then slowly made a transition into this It's not been an overnight thing. It happened over a business day. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, I think that, you know, obviously, your history We all have a history, right, but your history specifically has given you different touch points, you know, to be able to use where you are today, but specifically a different perspective, not not being an owner then, right, and being kinda putting boxes and such.
And so, yeah, I think that all of our stories or our histories make us who we are today. And we utilize those things that we've gathered along the way to to do the thing that we're doing now and the best way that we know how So, yeah, I think that you you developed it and others, you know, as I say, came out of the womb, a boss, you know. I I think both both lead to successful entrepreneurship. You know? So it's more of a refining and dialing in what what you want.
Let's go to your 1st couple of years in this in this business, and I want you to tell me something practical, a good decision that you made that the listeners can take away from them. And you're at a tech space, you're, you know, you're working in, you know, the outsourcing Wolfe. You're you're literally operating operating in another country. What can you give us? It was a good decision that we can use. They they were there were always been times when we thought we're not doing the right thing.
I mean, we should not be doing this. It was really difficult, you know, but then we realized that there was there were things about us that was working. You know, we Chaz, like I said, you know, it was just not the technology. It was also the process. Customers were loving us. And they were imagine having, you raised a request for a plumber at 10 o'clock at night, and you have a plumber within 15 minutes at your doorstep. Right. So we've had the record.
We've had the record of electricians and plumbers, making customers, houses in less than 8 minutes. You know, that's that's really that's crazy. Yeah. So when you give that kind of service, customers are going to help you. We started getting good feedback, and that's what, you know, so, I mean, our decision was staying. The good decision that we made was sticking to this because we realized that it was doing good, and we decided to stay on it struggle, you know, have all the financial problems.
Take all the risk, but, you know, we're gonna get there. And that's exactly what got us here. So I think it's about, you know, when you when you when you're doing the right thing, you're gonna have troubles, but you still have to push on, take the risk, and then keep working on it. It'll get you there. Yeah. I love that.
What do you think that, you know, the listener today, they're they're a 6 figure business owner, They're just getting started, or maybe they've been doing it for several years, but they just can't quite get over the hump. How how did they how what would you say that person is for implementing what you've just said? So first of all, everybody I mean, there are a lot of people starting up since yesterday.
And everybody do, you know, wants to have a startup and and, a lot of people go into things that are already there. Right? Everybody, you know, you you a lot of people are mimicking somebody else because just because someone else is successful. Let me do the same thing. Let me go. I think, when you start, you start. Don't look at somebody else. Just leave the rest of the world. There's nothing existing. And you draw you start drawing from scratch.
And then once you build a part of it, and then you start comparing with others, And that's when you realize that, you know, so, okay, you've done something different. If it's gonna be the same thing, don't do it. Right? Because I mean, if if if you're doing exactly the same thing that somebody else has been through, don't do it. Start from scratch. Drop everything new. And then you think that you've got a chance, then do it. And if you continue doing it, stick to it. Push on it.
And Yeah. Just keep working on it, and it'll get you there. Copying somebody blindly is not happening. It's not gonna get you the same success. Yeah. You're right. The the most recent experience I have with this, I mean, really what you're breaking down is the the the experience that the client is going through. So even though you provide maybe something similar to an assistant or to a you know, fill in the blank of what your competitors are.
The way that you're doing it, the way in the speed or the preciseness or the ease, the the release of time, like, all of those things and the experience that you just mentioned are what not only get me to potentially try you, but then also keep me coming back over and over and over again, And so even though someone might do something like the service or product, that's the same as someone else, what you're saying is it's it's the way that you do it that's different.
It's the experience that you're providing that's different. And and I'll I'll even give a personal example on this. Before I built Gathering the King's mastermind group, this was before the podcast, we we had been doing strategy coaching and and even sales training and stuff as a team for a Wolfe.
And I had several friends and clients that I was working with and And I just I I saw this vision of having multiple business owners come together, not just get value from me and my team, but from each other. And and I know I'm not the only person to think of, you know, bringing entrepreneurs together in a, you know, mastermind format. I know I'm I know that, but before researching anything or anybody, I went to the whiteboard, a blank whiteboard, as you said, from scratch.
And I drew out what I thought was valuable to Chaz an entrepreneur, as someone who's doing it, as someone in multiple industries doing it, I thought, what format What cadence? What timeline? How much over zoom? How much in person? What what feeling do am I looking for? What how, like, am I looking for accountability? Am I looking for friendship and camaraderie? Am I looking for a bit? Like, what what am I? Cause I'm my target market. What am I looking for?
And I literally built out now I found, you know, obviously, just like you have competitors that are maybe similar or this, that, or the other, but I'll tell you what. When they when people come through gathering the cadence of mastermind or even the podcast, to your point earlier today, you know, you've been through a process I had a I had a gal earlier here on the show this morning. She's a $100,000,000 business. She has a podcast. And she told me, hey. I'm taking notes.
I'm watching what you're doing. Right? So you get that from what you just gave the listener. And so that's my encouragement to the listener is it's okay to you I'm not trying to recreate the whole wheel. I'm not trying to figure out how to do a mastermind. Like, no one's ever done it or come up with something brand new. I'm I'm it's a mastermind. I'm not trying to do a podcast differently.
I'm doing a podcast, but when you go to the whiteboard, when you're creating something from scratch, what you're saying is that I can create an experience, or I can provide a service or a product that might look like this over here, but it's not. You like to add anything to that before we move on? Yeah. I'm a customer. You know, so when I do something, I have to look at what I'm looking for. And start up start up entrepreneurs.
Now you you, like, if you are into business, if you're going to do business and you want to be successful, you cannot go for the mediocre. Right? You've got to be the best. You've you have to try for the best, and you cannot say that, you know, okay, I've I've achieved this much, and I'm just gonna sit back and relax, and, you know, things will work out. It's it's not gonna happen because somebody else is gonna come and take everything else away from you.
So you've gotta keep working on making it better. So like I said, this comes from my experience, and I'm still a customer to Jaboy. You know, that's a platform that we've I'm still a customer because I I still need an electrician. I stayed near a plumber. I need the carpenters and all that. And I raised a request from my phone or the web, and people call me if they know who I am, you know, they probably recognize my number or my name, and they're gonna call me. Yeah. You said you wanted this.
And I, like, you know, Chaz that cannot happen. They have to talk to me. Like, they talk to every customer. I need the feeling of what every other customer goes through. And that's when I can change the process and say, okay. You guys are doing this wrong. This has to change. This is the way it is supposed. And you've got to treat yourself So your customer is looking for the best. You can't give them anything and say, you know, okay.
This is all of it because somebody else is gonna come and give them the best that they're looking for, and they'll move away. That's right. And you've got to keep reinventing. You know, you've got to keep working on whatever you've created. If it's a product or a service, whatever it is, you still have to keep working on it. Cannot leave it midway. And then you're not you're not gonna do it.
Write every time, but you're gonna get it try a lot of times, and you'll probably get to, you know, 99% of what the best is. You know, that that's what everybody should look for. Not just sit there and say, okay. I've I've done this and I'm done. So my business is gonna learn. No. It's not gonna happen. Yeah. I love what you just said is that your customer is looking for the best, and it doesn't mean that necessarily every customer is looking for the Ritz Carlton.
Whatever whatever their best is, right, they're looking for the best. And, and so depending upon what type of maybe you're in the Ritz car some business or maybe you're in the motel 6 business. It doesn't really matter. That customer is looking for the best. And so why not provide that because if you don't, like you just said, you're gonna lose them anyway. So, really, it's just more of a a waste of time for both parties if you don't.
So I love the standard of excellence that you clearly carry and and even share with your team. I'm sure. I wanna flip the coin to a good or sorry, a bad decision. What mistake have you made that was just disruptive and that we can learn from? I'm sure. You know, yeah, a lot of mistakes and, you I mean, it's okay to make mistakes. The only thing is you cannot keep repeating it. You can do it once. You can do it twice.
The third time, you gotta say, you know, I've done this before, and I've gotta stop. So some of the mistakes, I mean, some of the those that clearly stand out are one is having bad people. I mean, yeah, it's it's not hiring is not an easy process. You know, people come prepared. They know how to fool you.
They know how to talk to you, and you get impressed, you know, or you I mean, I mostly look for good attitude and I want people commitment from people, you know, and it's very easy to show that when they come for an interview and have taken bad people. Now some of the problem is, 1, you know, getting your work, you're not getting your work done well. Second thing is, you know, it creates a bad environment as well because, you know, it's a bad apple, you know, and it falls out of the other apple.
Yeah. So that that's something the mistakes that we've we've had five people. We have to we have Chaz to get rid of people, and that has cost us a lot of a lot. You know, in in terms of not just in terms of money, you know, but then again, you start the whole process again. You have to find somebody else. Second thing is, you know, when you are new in the business, a lot of offers come your way. People wanna partner with you.
People, you know, the partnerships and funding and investment opportunities and whatnot. And because you're new, you fall for it very easily, and then you run into it. And then you spend a lot of time, and then you realize that it was not the right thing. So you, you've already wasted your time. You're, like, thinking about, should I go into it or stay out and it takes a lot of time effort and do lose focus from your business.
So that's something that, you know, new entrepreneurs normally get into because, It's it it's an exciting thing, you know, when somebody wants to partner with you and, you know, do business with you, But then once you get into details, you realize that it's not the right thing. So it kind of takes away your time, your focus, And then it starts all these things that, you know, all these mistakes, including the bad hiring and the the opportunities that you run after.
They probably set you, you know, delay your timeline. Your deadlines move a little further. So that's what it is. But again, you know, you have to go through that learning. As simple as Chaz, you know, because everything cannot be taught. Yep. Right. That's right. I I worked in the corporate for 20 years. I've probably Chaz more than five thousand people. But I still make mistakes today, you know, because it's not an easy thing.
And it's, it's it can happen, but then you slowly learn, you get out of it and move on. Yep. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Otherwise otherwise, you stay there. You're stuck. You have to move on. Exactly. Yeah. Alright. So I wanna transition to our speed round. I've got a couple questions here in the speed round that are angled a little differently. The first one's around KPIs. I wanna know in this tech business that's helping serving people all over the place.
What's the number one KPI or the most important, the thing that you would track forever and ever if you could just pick This 1, percentage of returning customers. K. So re retention lifetime value, how do written. I mean, just just the percentage of number of people that are coming back to use our services again. I mean, this may not apply to everybody's because we are a tech company. We are everything is technology based. We can track every customer that comes back to us.
It's kind of easy for us. Right? So as of now, we've got a 60% returning customer rate, which is like huge, you know, because in the service industry, even 30% to 35% They're really good. We are planning on almost 60%. So Right. I mean, for me, for me, that why I say that's important for me is because that one metric show us how happy customers are with us. Yeah. Or what we'll be doing. You know, so just looking at that and leave everything else. Your keep your p and l, everything else apart.
If your customers are coming back to you and more than 50% of them are coming back to you, you you know that you're doing something good. So that's that's that's one thing that I looked at. But I'm just lucky, you know, because I'm in the tech a technology based business. Not everybody could be Chaz. Yeah. 100%. I love that. I think that the the KPI remains the same whether you've got the easy technology tracking tool or not, you know, that happy customers. Happy customers.
Happy customers at the price that makes sense. You know, like, it just makes sense for them and for you. So I I receive that. Jeeva, what book? Would you recommend or maybe a a resource of source that the listener can jump into to learn about how to grow the business.
That's kind of a difficult one for me because I don't clean a lot And when you when you have, I mean, somebody if you're talking about somebody who's be already been in the business and being like someone, like, you know, you've got so much of experience and knowledge that you can write a book yourself. Right? Books are all guidelines. You're not gonna just read a book and make a business out of it. Right? Right.
It it it only serves you as certain points where you can look up to and wait through that, but it's not going to make you help you run the business. So I mean, having said that, when I have to recommend to somebody, you know, I would recommend both in negotiation, making the right, having the right people, making the right connections, You know, those are books that I I would find valuable because there are always certain things that you would pick up. It's relevant to your business.
And if you it will help you. I mean, the power of negotiation, for instance, you know, those kind of books actually help you when you want to work with other people and influence other people. You beat your employees, your customer, your vendor, anybody. So that's what I would recommend. I love it. What are your thoughts on networking and or master mining with other entrepreneurs? Excellent idea. I mean, looking at this. There is no limit on the amount of knowledge that a human mind could take.
We can just keep picking up things and probably we may not be able to retrieve all of it at the time that they want to, but The point is we can keep learning. There are we everybody can keep learning. So every time you meet somebody, someone who's got a different experience, you're learning something. Like, you know, when I talk to you and picking up something from your side, you probably will pick up something from me. And the the, you know, Chaz that's that keeps happening.
So every time you meet a new person, whether they have, you know, you can learn things from kids. You can learn things from our students. You can learn things from a millionaire, you can learn things from somebody who's on the road. You know, so there is always something new coming up. Networking definitely definitely is a priority on the list of things for anybody who's in business because it just adds value.
However, every time you talk to somebody, you learn something new and it will definitely help you somewhere on the other. Yeah. I love that perspective. You're so certain about it too. So what would you say to the listener right now who maybe isn't certain?
It's not that they don't see meeting with other people being valuable, but maybe they're just busy or maybe they, you know, why would I talk with another entrepreneur just to get the one nugget that, you know, like, maybe they just don't see the value for where they are today. What would you say to that person listening? It's it's also to do with, something. I mean, it's my own experience. You know, I'm not great at yeah, I make good friends, but I'm not great at meeting new people.
And so I've been to this networking sessions. Right? You know, you get 50 seconds, and then there's a bell, and then you move on to the next person. So you kind of compelled to meet new people. And so I did that in the UK and you know, I found that very interesting, and we came here and replicated that here. So there are always a group of people who will have to be compelled to do that. You know, so people are all different.
You know, somebody some some people are very good at making relationships. Others are not so good, you know, even to meet somebody and talk to the military. So if one, they have to. Somewhere or the other day, they'll have to find a place where they can meet new people because, you know, it's it's also about the initial hiccup of meeting somebody and what do you talk to them which imagine that the other person, the person on the other side also has the same problem. Not everybody is great.
You know, not everyone comes with that experience of you know, doing that. I mean, not everyone is a salesperson. So just imagine that the other person sitting on the other side was also just like you and start talking to them. And it becomes a conversation. It becomes easier. The more you do it, it becomes it just gets better. And I think that's the way to go because it's not it's not an easier thing, but you've got to give it a try. Yeah. If you don't do it, you're missing something.
I love that. Great perspective. I got one last question here for you, Jeevan. If you could whisper in the younger Jeevan's ear What would you say? Just do the way it was. I mean, I don't change anything because I I I love I love my life. I love the way I've been, even with all the struggles and what I've gone through. I just love the way my experiences and I'm just gonna tell him don't change anything to slip it.
So I if I had a fountain, do the same thing or same mistakes all over again, but it's been a great learning. Yeah. Did you find yourself as a younger man wishing for something different or wishing for the next thing. Like, why is that your advice to the younger g? I mean, there are a lot of things. Even today, I dream. I mean, I'm I'm never part of being, you know, so I could still look at a private plane and say, oh my god, I I don't have that.
I'll probably have that some, you know, that's the thing. When I was gay, I wanted to have a cycle by, you know, so you wanna have a car, and then you wanna have a house, and then you wanna have a plane, and you're probably are. And, you know, whatnot. But there are always being and and that's what keeps you moving. You know? So so there are things that ambitions in your life Chaz, I don't want my young the young gentleman to change anything because he's got more than what he asked for then.
So every time we look for something, you somewhere or the other, you've got more than that. So there's nothing. I mean, keep dreaming. Keep wishing for it. You'll get this. Right? I love that perspective. Super healthy. That's my that's my experience. You know, it's it's a bit of faith in this building. It's it's a leap of faith. I think the good thing Chaz will come to you. You keep thinking about that, and it has happened to you. Yeah. I agree. A 100%.
Do you even how can how can the listener connect with your platform? How can they become a customer? How can they connect with you? Maybe they wanna pick your brain on on on entrepreneurship. How can I find you? LinkedIn is one good source. You know, people can connect with me on LinkedIn and Chaz with me there. I don't use other social media much. I mean, it's just because I'm the business. Like, yes, I do get involved, but I'm not very on social media.
I like the good jokes and everything that, you know, the memes and everything that got through, but other than that or not, much this social media, but LinkedIn, you Wolfe definitely find me, and you will have me talking there. There's my email where that's a little more restricted. But then if you leave a note on our website, then jaboah.com or the jaboah. In website, people will definitely get to me, and I can get in touch with Yeah. Yeah. We'll put all that in the show notes as well.
That way, they can easily find you a LinkedIn and your website or your email. We'll put all that there. So we just thank you for being here. Brother, you've been incredible. Not only just inspiration, I think, to the listener, but to me, just even some of the things that you were able to share just about, as you've been building your business and and just humility and perspective in the mindset. Like, you've got you've got an incredible story, and I just thank you for sharing it.
I wish you got the blessing on you and your business, your family. Thank you for being here. It's it's been a pleasure. You know, I mean, like I said, at the beginning, the what you are doing makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of difference to people who's new in the business, and I wish you all success. I hope you keep doing this as long as you can and, you know, guide new business. I mean, create a lot of a good entrepreneur, successful entrepreneur, and I wish you all success.
Okay. And god bless. Yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you for listening to gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself, doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple businesses and multiple different industries and now interviewing literally over 2 or 300. Other very successful 7, 8, and 9 figure business owners is that it's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings literally exists to bring together successful entrepreneurs. In fact, we are putting together 1000 kings, specifically who are grateful, but not done.
We're intentionally assembling kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities, and here's what we believe. That in the pursuit of excellence in those areas, that it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy. So if that relates and and resonates with you and you know that you need people around you, sharp qualified other very successful business owners. I want you to go to gatheringthekings.com.
I want you to take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit to 1000 kings. Talk soon.