Pass Rush Film Room with Emmanuel Ogbah

and Emmanuel Agma. We talked about a lot of stuff on this podcast, breaking down his pass rush moves, the pass rush scheme, and gap integrity, the Cross Chop movie he's become famous for in the NFL, plenty of good inside football stuff. Plus we'll talk to him about one of his favorite sports in high school view might not have known about. Plenty more here on this edition of the Drivetime Podcast. Plus, we're gonna get to Daniel Jeremiah's new updated Top fifty and talk about what that means

for this year's draft. All of that and more on this Friday, February edition of the Drive Time Podcast. We are going to get into my interview with Dolphins defensive and Emmanuel Ogba real quick here on this edition of Drive Time. But first I want to update you on the latest Daniel Jeremiah Top fifty. He does this every year, the best in the business. NFL Network. You guys know who he is. He anchors the coverage of the draft

all three days for the NFL Network. He's got his new top fifty list, a former scout in the league, plenty of good content the Move the Sticks podcast. I cannot recommend his content enough when it comes to the draft and the NFL. And I want to talk about this because, as we do on this podcast, we take NFL information and relay it back into a Dolphins put it through a Dolphins filter. What does it mean to

the Miami Dolphins. And what I want to do with this one is take a look at the positional makeup of his top fifty. And you look at eight of his top ten players are on the offensive side of the football. And we talked about this on the offseason preview editions here of the Draft Time podcast about the makeup of these classes. How the last two years, the receiver and offensive line classes have just been absolutely stout.

And the reason I want to bring this up is because I think it kind of sends the balance back in the offenses favor in terms of who comes off the board early in draft classes, if that was going to be how it went on draft, and of course it's going to be a complete crapshoot as it is every single year we get quote unquote surprises and I'm using finger quotes here, but they're never actually surprises, because the draft, by its very nature is a surprise every

time we do it. But looking back over recent classes, last year, for instance, five of the top ten players chosen were on the offensive side of the football, and just for good measure, his eleventh and twelve players this year also our quarterbacks, so also offensive players, and we

know how the draft goes in that way. To write, quarterbacks always wind up, you know, jumping a little bit over where they are on these types of rankings, as the demand for quarterbacks in this league always remains high. But you go back to nineteen as well, and only three of the top ten picks our offensive players, quarterback Kyler Murray, quarterback Daniel Jones, and tight end T. J. Hawkinson.

And that's a good parallel to this year's draft class because once again, one of the top players in this draft and number three overall on Daniel Jeremiah's big board behind just Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback from from Clemson, and behind only wide receiver Jamaar Chase out of l s U. He has tight end Kyle Pitts. So there were three players in this year's top ten in nineteen. You go back toeen and you've got six players in the top ten draft picks that were on the offensive side of

the football. So you look at eight players on the offense in DJ's top ten, and really ten of the top twelve. That's a one of the bigger disparities we've had in terms of offensive over defensive firepower at the top end of the draft. If it were to play out that way, of course, is just a you know, February Top fifty list from one of the best scout in the game. But I find it interesting in the way it balances out the NFL because we had so

many runs and swings on defense. We had so many runs where there was elite crops of pass rushers coming through every year, and now we kind of get that pendulum swing back the other way, where offensive linemen are just coming in and droves receivers are littered all over the league, guys that can make plays from all three positions out there at the receiver spots. So it makes

for a fascinating draft class. And going into a year where the Dolphins really really excelled on defense last year and all the additions made on that side of the ball, well you've got some really good offensive options and defensive options as well. But as Dan Jeremiah notes, ten of his top twelve players on his Top fifty board all on the offensive side of the football. All right, let's go ahead and talk about a player on the defensive

side of the football. Emmanuel Ogba, Dolphins defensive end nine sacks last year, had a whole bunch of pressures, hits and hurries. And we had the takeaway breakdown piece that I had published on Miami Dolphins dot com about a month ago where I took a look at every single takeaway and in addition to three four fumbles the Dolphins were able to scoop up and recover. He also was just a massive part of so many of the interceptions,

putting pressure on the quarterback on interceptions. Pro Football Focus had him with nine pressures on plays that turned into interceptions for the Dolphins last year, So technically speaking, part of twelve takeaways for Emmanuel Ogba, just an absolute beast out there. And you know, one of the themes on the podcast about the course of the season was the play before the play, right. We talked about the play before a big Xavian Howard interception, the play before a

big third down sack. Well, Ogba's name came up over and over again, whether it was a second and two run stop where he forces the opposing offense into a third and three and then the Dolphins getta stop on that down turns into a four point play because of those stops and the work those guys did. He was consistent in that regard. He plays multiple positions. Went back and watched his tape. He's getting sacks from the nine technique, the wide nine, all the way out wide off the

outside shoulder of the tight end. He's condensing inside of the three technique and putting power shows and bulrushes on big right guards in the National Football League. So he can beat you with speed, he can beat you with power. He can convert speed to power, heavy handed, active hands, and we're gonna talk about all that stuff here with Ogba. On the podcast. He broke down some of his game

and it's a fun, fun interview. Let's go ahead and turn this thing now over to my interview with Dolphins defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah and writing Shotgun now on the Drive Time podcast. He's number ninety one in your programs, number one and the sack column and in your hearts. He's powerful, long, strong, and one hell of a pass rusher. Emanual Ogba, Emmanuel, what's up? Man? That? What's up? Travis? Thanks for having me. I'm really happy to have you on today, dude. It was it was fun to watch

you all season long. But before we get into the football stuff, you know, I wanted to ask you about one of your teammates and and just put it to you this way. How privy are you? Two? Shack Lawson's idea for his dating show, the Love Shack. I think you know you said an idea the version of the dating show. I mean, I mean he's talked about it to me. I'm wondering how much he's told you about it. Oh well he hasn't. This this is the first for me. I haven't heard nothing about that. I gotta call him

check with him on that. So it's called love Shock. He wants to it's like a like a dating series where like you know, the old the old school, like I Love New York or the Flavor Flame shows, those type of things. So he's got an idea for it, and they're kicking around somewhere. But I assumed he had brought it up to you guys, but he hasn't. That's pretty funny. Yeah, I gotta call him about that, love Shack.

It got a nice ring to love Shack. I don't know why that sounds familiar though, but yeah, Luve Shack. I gotta call him and asked him about Dude, he's the best, like we we just we did a podcast with him back in this during the season and he was just what you see is what you get, right, just laughing and chucking it up the whole time. Oh yeah,

he definitely makes the room go. You know, it definitely brings him and Christian they both bring, you know, smiles the room during the comedy to the room tons of there with those two guys, and you know you mentioned you're gonna You're gonna call him and ask him about it. So do you guys? Is there some communications, some hanging out, some working out going on between that defensive line group

in the off season you guys getting together. Uh, well, not yet because you know, everybody wants their time off. You know, we had a long season, so kind of everybody to themselves right now. But as we gave closer, then guys will start coming together, you know, doing workouts and stuff as the off season comes to and then So that's something I wanted to ask you about and get into here, was like when does the clock kind of not strike midnight but turn over to the to

the next season. Like, obviously, you take some time, you decompress, you you go to a beach somewhere. I hope, Manuel, hope you had a good vacation. Uh what when does like the next season officially begin for you? As far as like all right, I'm gonna get back on this program to get my body in this spot. And like when does it start for you? Usually I'll start right after the super Bowl. I'll take like a week after the super Bowl. Then I'll start, um, you know, kind

of progressing. And I don't start you know, intense training. I just started getting my my body right back you know to where it was, you know, just like start my routine again, you know, just because I know we still have a long way to go. But you know, it's good to you know, started up, even though you're not going next really hard right now, but it's good to you know, nice little startup. So like more conditioning and kind of like you mentioned, kind of getting the

body back to what it was pre season. Yeah, not not necessarily a lot of heavyweight tripping the more. Yeah, like cardio and conditioning and stuff like that. So what I want to know, Emmanuel, is when you do get into that position where you're you're going you're you're going all in, like you're you're doing the heavy lifting, You're you're getting your body in the peak shape for the season. What is the typical day when you're in that part of the calendar. What does the typical day look like

for you in the off season? Uh, well, I go. I go early in the morning, like around like seven seven thirty. That's when I get on the field. The field works. And then I get off the field like let's say like almost nine o'clock, and then I go in the weight room do weight room works. Um, I get down that whatever around like eleven, I'm done. So I'm done for the day, you know, take a break, relax, um, eat,

and then at nighttime. I usually like either like just go do some like some light cardio work or just get on the bike a little bit just to move my legs. No, that's just no stuff that I would do like during a Austin as it progressed, I don't necessarily um go crazy with it. But you know, it's just just keeping my body, you know, maintaining my speed and just keeping everything moving. Like your body is like a machine. You gotta keep every fun too, on every

little details about it. Oh man, I can't even imagine from an athlete's perspective because, like you know, a person that writes and does a podcast. If I, like I'm lazy for one or two days, it continues for multiple days. Body and motion stays in motion. Man, That's that's so true.

So you're doing you do get into the two of days in the off season program, Yeah, it's like two of that, but not necessarily you know, the second part is not necessarily hard because I the marty part is when I really you know, get my work in the second part of the day is just necessarily just just keep my body moving and not just sitting around all day. So when you talk about field drills, what what does

that entail? Uh, you know, I like with the bags to pop up bags, you know, just some passwords stuff I work with the bags and you know, some just dealon specific movements I would do. Um, it's just just just just different stuff. And also I have a coach, so that you usually helped me out. You know, I can't do it for myself. Well, I work with some of my teammates too, or former players that I played with,

and uh, you know, just just from there. So so you mentioned that you have some teammates and stuff, and I think I've I've mentioned this to you before. There was a great video from training camp with you and Shack working on you know, hand placement and getting the guy's hands off of you, and he was talking about your heavy f and hands. Bro, Like you couldn't believe

how heavy your hands were. And you know that's something that the coach Hobby had mentioned before and we've we've talked about with you know, your evaluation on this podcast many many times a manual. Uh, what's what's the benefit of those heavy hands and and when you're doing those drills, like what's what are you trying to focus on the most, Like are you trying to work on just how to get his hands off you like, where to get your hands? What does what does that practice? How does that translate

onto the field on Sundays. Um, It's just it's just a lot of it's a lot of hand eye coordination UM work that I do, and more so when I work on my hands a lot, because as a D lineman you need your hands. Your hands are one of the most important things as a D lineman. So if you could keep your hands um fast and active, you go a long way. And also, like my my thing is to not let the officer the lineman put their hands on me because you know he's strong, just like

I'm strong. You know, if I could get his hands off me, if I could get his hands off of me, the quicker is be the better for me to look his way to the quarterback. And that showed up on tape this year. Man, I told you, I went back and watched your sacks from this season and they came from a variety of positions, a variety of pass rush moves. But I think the one that really STI out the

most to me was the cross chop move. And help help correct me here if I'm wrong, because you're the pro and then youally want to get your take on this. But it looked like to me, when you do that move, you want your inside hand to get to his outside hand the tackles outside hand first. Does that Is that correct? Oh? Yeah? Sure?

First of all, you have to really like run at the guy like you gotta sell them, like you're gonna like power him, power rush him, and so that will force him to sit to try to break for it. And that's when they normally shoot their hands and give give their hands, and that's what I'm looking for. As soon as they get their hands. So that inside arm of mind was coming down and my left arms grabbing the outside shoulder of the outside shoulder and just trying

running right past them. So that's that's that's color how I learned to move A last need to move. You and I have different people, you know, teach me to move. So just been doing that and you kind of use that once you get to that point on their upfield shoulder.

It looks to me like you slingshot off of that like momentum, Like you almost use their momentum against them, right, Like that's how you that's how you kind of turned the corner and flat into the quarterback exactly and turned that corner is the rap rap coming fool And I see that quarterback with the ball upcoming fools, It's like it's like anohing geared, like just map there. There was

two really good examples of that this year. I thought one was the twenty eight yard sack on Joe Flacco where Eric Rowe comes clean and forces him to you know, pirouette and turn around four or five times and then like you mentioned, you worked up field. You kind of stayed on your block and then once you saw him

him peel back. You did that and there's a combination of the other play was the Cardinals game where you got Kyler Murray, which, by the way, getting that guy in the open field, let's just give you a quick grand of applause for that. That's that's one of the most undoable things in the National Football League. But like, is it is it like that that you sense blood

in the water? Because like you do kind of explode off that that one step where you see it and then the length and the kind of dive to get them to the ground. Man, Like, is it a blood in the water thing for you? Oh? Yeah? For sure, my eyes get so right, and those I beat the offensive tackle and I see the quarterback still has the ball. Oh my god, It's like a lightbulb just goes off in my hand and my eyes just right. If I wish the camera can just zoom in on my eyes,

you know, as I'm rushing it. So because as I'll beat that line and the quarterbacks still have the ball nice like be right, so on before you could throw that ball, we've gotta get an e manual camera, an exclusive manual cam during the game. So I would love to see that. Uh that's good stuff, man, because you know, going back and watching those sacks again, like I mentioned, it's it's it's consistent in the way you do it.

But um, you know, you go through, you go through an entire game, and you mentioned like your eyes get big because you can have you know, fifty or sixty reps, but you might not get your sack right. So like when it comes to impact in the game and ways beyond just the box score, how much pride do you

take in that? And and what can you tell like the casual observer of a football game that says, well, all Bud didn't have any sacks but I'm over here saying he had five quarterback hits and two of those days led you to pick, Like, what what's the the overall team identity? Your team plan for the past? Rush to to impact the passing game. Um, it starts with everybody. You know, just because you don't get the sacks don't mean you're not really affecting the quarterback. And that's where

a lot of people, you know it failed to see. Um. Um, just because the numbers aren't there, doesn't mean you're affecting. Like let's say, like you get some hurrys in the game, Like like you said, five hurrys in the game, Like that's affecting the quarterback, Like that's making him throw uncomfortable throws. And and that's what you're you're here to do. You here to affect the quarterbacks. And you know so, um

so just just cause trouble with the offense. But yeah, and and and also the DBS it works hand in hand, you know, uh, d line play and corner player works hand in hand. They get hold there, hold your receiver and give us time to get back to the quarterback. So I mean that's that's usually how I go about things. That's usually how I played the game. I know it's a team sport and all the position of work handy

and we make each other better pretty much. And that was very evident this year by the way this Dolphins defense played throughout the course of the season. You know, you mentioned the team aspect of and how all eleven parts have to work, you know, in synchronicity with the play call of the coaching staff. So really there's more than eleven guys that go into a given play. But you know, one of the things I love watching about

this pass rush is the commitment to gap integrity. Can you tell us a little bit about that and what staying in your rush lane means a post maybe you know some schemes they'll have a pass rusher just try to win with speed and off the line right and they get up field and they wind up behind the quarterback. Like is that kind of the opposite of what you

want to do? Like, what does gap integrity mean to you? Well, gap integrity it means to me, and like you gotta trust your brother to stay in this gap and not you know, you know what's in a while? You could take chance if you know you can make that play. But um, but then again, you have to like trust your brothers. You have to trust like each of them

will stay in their gap. And yeah, I think that's one thing you know, we ap preach that well, coaches preach about and now rushing past the quarterback, got to keep the quarterback in front of you because when you take that chance and rush your feet around past the quarterback, then you live in your other ten players to drive, you know, and you know we all got to you know, keep out gaps, and you know we can't lit the

quarterback out of our site. Yeah, it takes one one blown assignment to ruin a play, right, That's how it works exactly, just one one mistake and mess everything up. So one of the things you do in this defense also a manual. We got a manual about Dolphins defensive end here on the Drive Time podcast is you rush

from so many positions. And I mentioned this to you off air that so many of those sacks and those pressures came from the three tech, the five tech, you know, the YDE nine or the six and whatever it might be. You found a way to get pressure on the quarterback. You know, you mentioned your eyes get big when you

when you close on the quarterback. But like there was a rep for instance, where you were in the six tech and you had a tight end one on one and they tried to bring a running back over to block to blocking you to help, and you threw the tight end so far that the running back couldn't get in your lane. Like do your eyes get big on certain matchups? Like when you do get that that six tech against the tight end, Like, do you think, all right,

this is my time right here. Yeah, it's like to be honest when I when they put a tight end in front of me, and I just feel like it's a kind of disrespect to be honest. That's just that's just my mindset, you know, going in into the game. But you know, I definitely respect a lot of tight ends in this league. Uh, but you know it's like, if you leave me one a while the tighten, I'm

expected to win that matchup. Do you get what I'm saying? So? Uh, but yeah, it's just every time when that happens, I'm like, it's like, Okay, y'all bring it tight end too on the path play? Oh god, this ain't it. Oh No, it's just because I actually just to get off the ball. You know, and just like get back there as quick as I can. We gotta flash the Jordan meme right here on the screen where it says and I took

that personally, Yeah, exactly. So, so you go from that position out wide where you are going up against a guy like a tight end, but then you're also capable of kicking into the three technique and again another one of these sacks. She you you land up over the right guard or off the right guards outside shoulder, and you just the gap integrity, the bull rush. You kind

of keep your eyes in the quarterback. You I mentioned the hands, You you do this thing where you kind of you get your hands on the inside chess plate and then that's all about kind of changing his momentum. But when you get inside in those three technique positions, like do you do you view that with the same approach? Does the approach change when you move positions across the

defensive line. I feel like I use more of my speed when I'm in uh inside, because I'm smaller than the guy I'm going up against, So I use more of my speed, you know, to beat the officer guard, because officer guard usually like slower because that's why they played inside more so he's more must be either to get their hands off me as soon as they can and or just kind of like running right past them

because they can't really handle the speed. Yeah, definitely, and that that was what I saw on that on that play was you you kind of work to get his hands clean. And then you mentioned like the the idea of pass rushing and tell me if this is wrong, Emmanuel, is to get a player leaning one direction and then go to the opposite direction. Like, is that kind of the general idea. It's a little bit of that, for sure.

You have to get them off balance. If you get them all balanced, their beat for sure, because you can't block you can in thistily. You can't block somebody just with one hand. It's it's kind of impossible to do that, but some guys do it. But but now, but if you could get an opposite a linement of balance, I feel like you you you beat them. You got them

beat pretty much. There was a rap man it was against the Jets where the guy that was blocking you, I don't know who it was or I think he was a right tackle, but his he winds up with his hands at his side because you had him, and then his helmet is in your chest. I'm thinking, oh boy, Emmanuel's got him right where he wants him, right here over his skis no hands, no hands placed. So it's like I said, man, it's a lot of fun to watch your tape. I want to ask a couple more

questions here. Um, we talked a little bit about you know, the gap, integrity and and and being there for your brothers. What's it like. What was it like for the first year for you playing under coach Flora's in this defense with he and Josh Boyer and and just kind of the general culture that you've observed here from the Dolphins in year one. Uh, it was different. Um. You know, first of all, you know, leaving Kansas City and coming here.

I left Kansas City because you know, they've known as winners, you know, so I came over here, you know, just expect to bring that winning tradition with me. And you know, slow and still don't us. You know, this is a it's a brotherhood, it's a family, and we all roster each other and we all make each other better. And he thrives on competition, so that's why he brings competition. But uh, I like, I like how things were going

this year. You know, we were going through a pandemic and we will still you know, would be close to each other. And that's one thing I liked about this team, where you kept that brotherhood in that circle time and that that has that has a lot to do with us winning a lot of games too that we did this year. That it shows up in the in the

biggest way of possible. Man. I think that was why one of the reasons why Dolphins fans really kind of gravitated towards this year's team more than maybe some of the past, because you guys just had so much fun playing together and it showed when we saw you guys on Sundays. I want to ask you this question here, Manuel.

Maybe this is tough for you to think about, but did you have a favorite part, like one moment that really stands out to you, Whether it was you know, goofing around the locker room, or maybe it was on the team plane or you know, after a victory, did you have a favorite moment from year one of a Dolphin? I said that Oakland game, you know, yeah, that Oakland

gang Um. I would say that was my favorite moment because to be honest with you, like I knew it wasn't over, well, you know, in the back of your mind, like dang, like you should have had these games ship, But I knew it wasn't over. But uh, you know, I'll say, when fists through that past, you know, and and Mad caught it. Oh boy, I was said that, I was, I was there, I was, I was, Oh my gosh, dude, they just really really just happened. So

I said, that was pretty amazing moment. And then Jason kicked that game in the field though which I turned my head. I couldn't have watched it. Uh well, yeah, that was I'll say, that game right there is really you know, the game I was really excited by as a dolphin, even though it was like the say to the last game. I had a lot of great moments, but I was saying, that's the one that you know, I'll definitely talk about for for a very very very

long time. You know, some kids, kids and all that. Yeah, nineteen seconds left, gotta go the entire field. That's just just that the odds aren't great, you're gonna do it. But of course fits and MATC Collins made that that fantastic play so so we're talking about this season, we got the upcoming season, and you know, I mean, I'm sure you're not one to hear us because you probably

are enjoying a little bit of downtime right now. But man, I can't wait for August some training camp, to get to get back here and watch you guys go out and do this thing again in But what do you got in the meantime? Man? Like, what's coming up fun for you? From a vacation standpoint, hanging out chilling? I know, I know you stayed in South Florida, but what's what's coming up this offseason for you? Um? Well, you know, due to COVID, I couldn't really travel anywhere that I

kind of want. I want to leave the country. I want to like go to a place I want to go to, like Mexico. I want to go a year, but really couldn't do that because of of COVID. But you know, I just I have plans on going on probably like Colorado. I want to skate. I want to snowboard because I've never been snowboard before. I know asthmen's it will be a good spot, you know to go out there. Um and just you know, check it out.

But that's probably that's that's one of my trips. I think I got I got planned for this about this month. For next month, I gotta go to Colorado, hang on, but I don't. I'm still yeah, I'm still I'm still trying to decide, you know, a place to go. And then also you know, keeping this training with tain going since I kind of started now a little bit. So yeah, I mean, I'm Emmanuel, I can't. I can't let you go on that. You gotta tell us more about the

snowboarding idea. Where like where did this come from? So, like, you know, I know you've you've mentioned before that you you watched them Cam Wake in the past. I don't know if you knew this, but Cam Wake was a big skier. He likes to ski. So again the ninety one comparisons coming over here, like where did this this, uh, this idea to go snowboarding come from? No, so growing up, I used to be a skateboarder, a skateboarder a lot going up, and so I just I just felt like

snowboarding will be similar to you know, skateboard. So, I mean, I've never done it before, so it's something I would like to try just to see if I'm good at it. I guess. So when when you say you were skateboarding younger, how young are we talking here? I didn't. I didn't really stop scaring on to like my software of high school really yeah, skateboard or I'll say like I started really in like six seventh grade. Yeah, I didn't stop to like my software. I'm just like, when when did

you hit that growth spur? Because I'm sitting here trying to picture a six ft four two and seventy five pound guy on a skateboarding I don't know how it works. Man. Oh yeah, I was first. I was not always this big, and I was always the square a kid. But then again, I had really long arms, so I kind of knew I was gonna get like I was going to go into him. But uh, well, yeah, I don't know. I did a lot of things, you know, as a young kid.

You know, I try a lot of things and just to find what I'm good at, and you know, football was what I was really good at. Well, I know that it's probably in your contract to stay away from skateboards these days, but if I asked you to do a kick flip, right, now, could you do it a kick flip? It's been years. I could I could try. I could try. I think I could do it, but it's been years, so it might not be as good as it was in the past. But yeah, I could

do a kicks. That's kind of like basic skateboarding. One O one. I was on my I was board today. I was on Facebook this morning and I went through some of my old photos and I actually have a video of myself from like ten years ago skateboard and grinding a rail going down the hill and then doing some work on on the coping some some ramps down there. So maybe maybe we bust a skateboard out one of these days at practice we put this kickflip thing to a test. I don't know, what do you think. Oh yeah,

I'm down. I gotta get I gotta get a little active there before though. Yeah I'm down. Well, well, well we'll make sure that everyone's cool with that, because once again skateboarding. Maybe we'll put on the grass, because you know, skateboarding, man, that's asking for an accident. So the kickflip on the grass, maybe that's the competition. Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's that's fine. That works for me too. Alright, brother, Manu, A fantastic

job on the podcast. Man, fantastic job this year. Your Dolphins defensive vent nine sacks this year and uh tons tons of pressures and quarterback hits and a big part of so many takeaways, the number one takeaway defense in the NFL, number one third down defense in the NFL. Man, you'll thank you so much for your time today. Man, we'll talk to you soon and enjoy the rest of your off season. Dude, thank you. I appreciate you having me on the shore. And God bless thank you. Yeah,

God bless back at you. Man, You'll appreciate your time today. There he goes Dolphins defensive end Ammanuala. What a fun interview that was, kind of getting a peek behind the curtain of how the past rush game works, as well as his off season regiment. Talking some football there and some possible high school skateboarding. I'd love to see some footage there of Emmanual Agba on a skateboard in high school. All right, it's gonna be my time on this edition

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