Drive Time - Fins Flashback, Dolphins Jaguars with Seth Levit and O.J. McDuffie

The preview is in the can. You can download and listen to that podcast wherever you get your podcast from the Wednesday edition of Drive Time. And today we're gonna change it up a little bit, as will flashback with a pair of host from our own Miami Dolphins podcast network. That's right, it's cross over Thursday. Here. We're gonna welcome in o J. Juice McDuffie and Seth Levitt of the Fish Tank Podcast and talk some Dolphins, Jags, memories, and

a whole lot more. All of that and more this Thursday, September edition of the Drivetime Podcasts. In a short week, we have the injury report from Wednesday available back on the previous podcast, as well as Miami Dolphins dot Com. But we'll have inactives later today up on Miami Dolphins dot com. Four Game Day Dolphins at Jaguars at eight fifteen on NFL Network. A big game here in primetime for your Miami Dolphins. And with that, let's go ahead and turn over now to my guest. They host the

fish Tank Podcast. And if you guys haven't heard the fish Tank Podcast, what are you doing? Because this is a Miami Dolphins fans essentially their own private tour through Dolphins history, Dolphins lore, and so many good inside stories from beat reporters, people that work for the team players. Obviously, so many people connected to this Miami Dolphins organization have done the fish Tank Podcast with Seth and Juice, and they always find a way to get the best stories

out of those guys. It's almost like a competition at this point where guys want to come into the fish Tank and beat the previous guy's episode with download numbers and stories and overall engagements. So it's a lot of fun. Check out the fish Tank Podcast and I am thrilled now to go ahead and welcome in Seth Levitt and O J McDuffie and normally they ask you to dive in, but today I'm going to ask them to buckle up and ride shotgun here and fire up that engine with us,

because the fish tank is invading drive time. I've got O J mcduffee, I've got Seth Levitt. What's up, boys, I gotta stop doing that where I give you guys both the opportunity to talk. I gotta narrow it down and tell you all right Europe this time, because you guys are are like just in sync with that what's

going on, Travis. So let's go ahead and uh, you know, we got you back on here today to help us look back at I'm not going to call it a rivalry because the only real memorable game in this Dolphins Jacksonville or Jaguars you know matchup. It kind of went the wrong way on us. But let's go ahead and talk some Dolphins jackson Yeah, yeah, a little more. But let's let's talk some Dolphins Jags ahead of tonight's Thursday

night football kickoff and juice. You played Jacksonville twice in your career, and one of those two was the rough one. But I want to start first with Seth because you and I, Seth were kind of b sing off air a little bit, and I told you, you know, we have those like insignificant moments in our lives that just

for whatever reason stick with you. I'm not really sure why, but I was a young and back in those days, back in and the game was on a Saturday in January, and that was basketball season for a twelve year old Travis. So we're finishing up a game and you know, I probably dropped a twenties spot on somebody in a victory, no big deal. But all I cared about that day, despite the w on the basketball on the basketball court,

was getting home for Dolphins football, Dolphins playoff football. So after my coach breaks us down after the game, I finish up with and who's ready to go watch? The Dolphins crushed the Jaguars, And I think my teammates reaction was a bit of foreshadowing because they were just as confused as I was when I got home I saw the halftime score. But Seth is all a long winded way to get to the speech that you saw with a little more gravitas on Friday before that game, before

the playoff game. Yeah, that was so you know, let me let me begin by saying that that Jimmy Johnson's speech probably had a different impact on me than it did o j And and that's okay for this conversation. But I remember, and I don't know if you remember that, Jews. You know, we'd have the Friday practice in general, do the everybody up and and uh. In those days, even as PR guys, we'd be able to get on this field.

And you know, I wouldn't be the first guy in there, but we were close enough and we could hear what was being discussed, and and he'd have the all up and and and I remember it. I remember Coach saying, he goes, you know, he goes, you guys have seen what we've seen. You've watched the film, You've looked at

it all week. We know exactly who they are. We're gonna go out there and kick there, asked and he said this, And I like, I was ready to go run down and you know, be a wedge buster Jewics like I I believe I was like, well, I wasn't in there watching film, but Coach says it, and everybody was all hyped up that we were going to go in there and beat the heck out of these guys. Yeah,

apparently he was watching a different film or something. Man, I don't know, because obviously we know what happened after that. And it was a rough day for a lot of different reasons. But I just remember I called, you know, my my stepdad and my little brother drove up to Jacksonville and they went to the game, and a lot of people did because it was, you know, the playoff game in state, even though it was a road game.

And I told them that it was gonna be a great day because that's what I heard on that practice field that Friday, And it just didn't work out that way. You had to come back the same way. I had to come back to my sixth grade basketball team and say, well, guys,

I guess I was wrong on that way. Yeah, well, yeah, I guess with my family now, I had to get back on that plane and all of us looking at each other, and you know, the next day, Jimmy's clearing out his office and and obviously it was the last game that we'd ever seen Dan Marino suit up in in the Dolphins uniform, and and a lot of other guys, and so it was it was a rough way to go out. Well that's That's where I want to get to Juice here and ask him because obviously, you know,

I love the quote that Seth You always used. If you're the toughest guy, or if Dan Marino says you're the toughest guy he's ever played with, that's as high of honor as you can get. And so you and Dan, obviously Juice had a pretty close relationship. What was that like in that game, Like, did he go into that game knowing this was possibly his last run? And like just talk about Dan Marino in the in the end

of the run there. Now, I'll tell you, man, let's let's if we're backtracks a little bit, think about it. We played the second game in Seattle the week before, you know, all way on the other coast. Um, we were already a banged up team at that point. I know, my foot was already you know, I'd already gone through the struggles with my foot, and I actually iced my foot all the way back from Seattle for six hours straight just to stop the swelling. Man, it felt like

I had a heartbeat in it. And then we played that first Saturday game, you know, the following week, you know, against Jacksonville, and they'd already been sitting home for a while, and we got know with with Seth talking about what coach was saying the night before. But we were such a banged up team at that point. In no excuse, jackson it was better than us. I mean, there's there's no excuse for us losing. We should never lose that bad.

Jacksonville was a better football team than us. But I thought, for me personally, I thought we got to show it in the stead to give us a late game on Sunday, early game on Saturday, going across country. Um, you know, I think that the NFL could have done a couple of favors maybe, and plus he's old guys, We could we could have used another day or at least six more hours, you know, I rest um, But man, we were so we weren't even a step behind Jacksonville that day.

We were steps behind them. And when I saw our defense not able to catch up and make tackles, I knew it was gonna be a long day, you know. And we knew that they were fresh and trying to be the Kings of the Florida. Um. And man, when I saw guys running by some of our best defenders, it was gonna be a long day. I thought it was twenty one nothing if I even got my helmets. What it felt like? You know, it was? It was? It was, yeah, it was. It was a tough one, man.

It really was a off one. It and by no means that I feel that that was gonna be Danny's last game, and you know, by halftime, it felt like it was all of our last game. And when you talk about that short week, I know, six days is you know, people say, well, it's only one day, but I mean that cuts into the entire routine, right, because a football player is the most regimented profession in all in the entire world as far as I'm concerned. Everything

is down to the minute, down to the day. So when you lose that day, like, what does that look like for a player? Yeah, you know, and I feel sorry for the guys to do the Sunday Thursday thing. Now, there's no way you're ready to go. And for a guy like myself, especially at that point, I'm not even healthy enough to even play, you know, until probably that Thursday, Thursday night Friday morning, So even try to get ready

for a Saturday afternoon game is rough. Like I said, no excuses, but I mean the body take it takes a long time, man for these guys, and that West coast trip. Imagine if people don't even play a game that go from the West coast to the East coast, you know, and how long it takes their bodies to get back to normal. And they only they haven't even played a game, you know, they haven't getting beat up like you know, three hour straight. So it was. It was. It was rough, it really was. But you know, I

mean that's the way the scheds will panned out. And you know, we should have shown up and and and showed out better than what we did. So if you mentioned the plane ride back home, did you even say a word to anybody that day? You learned real quick as a PR guy that you know, you keep your mouth shut, you know, even after winds and and so the other thing a lot of folks may not know. And I don't know how different it might be now,

but we the way we did things. There's a press release that comes out the next morning, and it has all the statistics from the game, all the different stats, all the things we see Brett do those great notes and what have you, and so each of us, Harvey, Neil, myself, we all had our own role and responsibility and that press release, and Neil would right in the bulk of the release, and I had certain stats that I kept. And so you get on the you get on the

plane and you break out your laptop and you start working. Um, and you know, Jacksonville here is not as a much shorter flight than Yeah. Yeah, you're right, it was great

to get home and have it all be done. Um. But but for me, and I don't remember specifically, but I imagine a short trip like that, we might have even gone into the office afterwards, because Monday morning or Sunday morning in that case, gets there in a hurry, particularly when it's the last game of the season and so much was about to change for this franchise in that moment. Yeah, you mentioned Brett, one of our PR

guys here currently with the Miami Dolphins. He was telling me that this week, on short week, there's some all nighters in there because you have to get the game release out there for postgame for Buffalo and then the pregame for Jacksonville. A lot of work you guys do up there, and it's it's definitely appreciated by the rest of us in the organization. Now let's go ahead and transition to another game. But once again, it's it's another loss, guys, I don't I mean, can we talk about some wins?

And you look at these these games and like the wins we have were recent, they were late in the season, they were non postseason impacting games. It's just there's not a lot there. It's the Jags got four, we got three on them right now. But I want to go back to the game that you used to play on Monday night. And I was always curious about this kind of more of a general question about Dolphins and Jaguars. And you mentioned Seth that you know, the family had

the in state rivalry a playoff game. There was some hyper on that, you know, that big loss in that playoff game back in nine. But was there a sense juice for you guys as players of like an in state pride or was you know, there's a rivalry have to be developed over time? Yeah, I think it has to be developed over time. We didn't. We didn't think much of what what Jacksonville was doing, you know, different division,

you know, north part of the state. You know, we we were so consumed with you know, with Jets, Indianapolis at that point, you know, the Bills, the Patriots that you know, those are their main concerns, um, you know, and so we didn't we didn't think much about jackson knew they're a great team and they were really an upcoming team. It's amazing how good they got in such a short period of time, you know, being a new team in the league as well, you know, that was

it was impressive. But then you know the players they had, you know, and we're talking about Brunelle, You're talking about Fred Taylor, talking about Keena Macartell, you know what I mean. Even Jay feel were dna have to take him from them because he was playing really well against it, you know what I mean. So they had one help team. That defense was was one of the best defense we've ever played against. UM, So we didn't think much about him,

but they were definitely obviously somebody to deal with. There's a great you talk about the Jacksonville defense, and this is probably in the two thousands at some stage. It was John Henderson. He he must have been probably three twenty, but on the video I saw he looks about three eight, about eight feet tall. Where he has the equipment manager slap him across the face. Come on, John, you gotta do better than that. I gotta get blood in my mouth. Did you ever play with a guy that was had

that mentality like just all go all the time. There's a lot of a lot of those crazy defensive linement that way you know you're you're clean bills and you know what I mean, And guys like that or like they're really really ridiculous, man, I mean he I mean, we're trying to be defens We try to be cute, you know what I mean. We try to make sure we're dressed right. Some of these other dudes, man, they don't care what the hell tore where. You know, they

don't care how they look. They want to get beat up before you guys beat each other up on the sideline. I said, you guys, mind that my name played the game. You know the way you're hitting each other man head but you know, slap, you know, smelling sauce. Man. Please, these guys are like they're going into a heavy weight fight most of the time, whether than going to play

a football game. And you know, as deeps on the outside, man, we try to look as pretty as we can stay as clean as we can and look as good as we can. Yeah, I think that. You know, at some point in everyone's life they realize, Okay, I'm not gonna make it to the big so I'm not gonna make it to the NFL. I'm not gonna make it to the NBA. And that was kind of a moment for me, like, Okay, that guy is a different species than I am, so

it's not gonna work out from me. But we want to talk about this other game here a real quick because you know Big Seth as we like to call him around here, Seth Lovett. He runs the Jason Taylor Foundation, so he knows the Dolphins Hall of Fame defense event quite well. And it sort of seems like, you know, we're talking only els in this podcast because we stay on this Monday night game and you talked about Keenan

mccartel juice. He caught too fourth core touchdowns in that game to come from behind and win by seven in that game and to make matters worse for me. It comes off the hand you might mark Brunel, a Washington Husky Gokub's, but the big story from that game, Seth was a little bit of trash talk between your boy j T and Tony Boselli. Yeah, there was a lot of that going on. And uh, you know, as JT, as everybody will tell you, those guys get paid too,

especially the really good ones, get paid a lot. And Tony was a great player for probably not as long as I think everybody would have liked to have seen him play. But you know that that was definitely his night. Jason will be the first one to tell you. And I think he said that when Tony this this last year when he was made it into the room there for for the Hall of Fame voting, um that you know, Tony gave him all he could give him more and and you know that that seemed to be his night.

And you know Fred Taylor had a couple of big runs. He had one huge run, I know, the first play of the game. I think it was into the game. I remember, I don't know why I was down on

the sideline. Someone must have been doing a pregame interview juice, but I was down there on the sidelines and Fred came around that and I must have been around the right side and he he ran by and it sounded like I was standing on the side of Night ninety five with trucks going by the way he moved and you could just feel him and and he just was flying by and Tea Buck was doing everything he could to catch him, but it wasn't gonna happen, and so so, but yeah, Tony Tony Um, Tony was given it to

Jason pretty good. J T, especially at that point in his career. I think he liked to he liked to talk to his opponents and so, you know, he never wanted to let you know that you had the best to him. And I think they were going at it back and forth pretty good. And in that game, you also had a touchdown from running back Creem Abdul Jabbar.

And you know, again going back to my youth here a little bit, I saw that name and I was like, doesn't seem right to me because I didn't know who he was at the time that I learned about him. I think he was. Was he Dan's first and only one thousand yard rusher? Does that? Do I have that stat right? I believe that's correct. That's crazy, So I know, first for sure, I'm not sure about it. I'm not sure if it was the only one. But yeah, it seemed like that, Yeah, because he was so Kareem was

Jimmy's first year. He was drafted, right, and so nine sixty thousand yards and and uh and you're right, I think that might have been like the first since Dlvin Williams or somebody to get a thousand yards rushing um. Karnem was a good guy and a hard runner. Well, I was. I was always curious if maybe if some of the players might have had some kind of like, you know, did you guys rib him for that, like

the name, like did that ever come up at all? Juice? Like, you know, obviously he's got a pretty famous surname there. Now we we didn't, you know, we I've seen him, you know, when he's out of u c. L A. I saw him going through college man and new a kind of the type of player he was, man, and you know, I mean how good he was. Uh. And Kareem is just a really nice guy man. You know, He's one of those guys that you would never rib

because they're too nice. It's it's pointless. You know some of the other guys though, you know, some of those other guys you give them the businesses because they're always trying to give the business out man. But Kareem was such a super nice guy and uh you know, hard worker, you know, and it was just um, I mean, it was just fun having that guy on our team for one.

But you know, it was weird to see that he did have the same you know name as lu Au Sinder and you know, and you know, obviously we saw afterwards that lu Out Sender actually what suited him for that that last name. He had to put abdul only on the back of his jersey or something like that. So it was kind of a wacky time we had Kareem. But what a great guy with a great running back. Man.

If he could have stayed healthy and with us longer, I think he would have been a he would have had a hell of a career with us as well. He was a pretty serious guy to juice. I mean, you know, he was pretty serious and his his religion, his faith was was very important to him, which is why he you know, he chose that name or or I guess the name was chosen for him. Um, alright, because U c l a guy as well, and uh so, so yeah, I don't remember. People would clown him too much.

But another reason that might have happened was and you can talk to Joe Hmino about this, he'll probably uh, he'll shake his head. And the equipment manager, So Kareem's first game as a Dolphin, I think he had a hunter yard game as a rookie. And you know, again, for years the Dolphins were searching for this rushing, this running game, and Kareem came out and and of course

he had the name that drew attention. And his name was spelled wrong on the back of his jersey his first games rookie year, it was spelled addable instead of the abdueld and the feat were transposed, and there was a picture of him celebrating and hugging someone and it was on the Herald and and then you know it was like wrong name, right game or something, you know, some some crazy headline. And when they told him about

it afterwards, he said it was disrespectful. And so the equipment guys, who nobody works harder in an entire football organization than the equipment guys. Those guys literally have the dirty work to do, and they work around the clock. And and what a great group of guys we had then with Tony and Joey and Charlie. But I remember that ad Bowl, So if anybody got ripped about the name, it was the equipment guys who took a lot of

of crap for for that baby in spelled rom. Yeah, you can't get on the jersey because he that's with him for the entire game, the entire day, and then you wind up in a headline. So I got a funny story about that too, because there was a there was a Sports Illustrated article one time, or a big spread, and it was a photo of Brock Marion and he was on top of his head like picking up a

fumble or picking off a pass. And my brother and I we went through my my dad's Sports Illustrated magazine and cut out a bunch of photos of of NFL players and put them up on the wall and we saw the you know, the thirty one. We saw the Marion and he was upside down, and we registered that

as Dan Marino because Marian Marino. And it was like weeks later we both were looking at it and go, who the hell is marrying because you know, we were young, we didn't know who he was at the time, but so just kind of funny story there about you know, some name changes. But I do want to spend this thing forward here and talk about some more Jacksonville games, because Juice, we know that you're a big time Dolphins fanning your post playing career as well. And I'm curious

if you recall the two thousand three game. It was at Jacksonville, so you probably weren't there obviously, but do you recall that play where Jay Feeler I can't remember. It's a pitch or a handoff to Ricky running left and it gets kind of clogged up off the left side, so he has to reverse field backwards to the right and he's got one defender and the goal line with Jay Feelers a lead blocker, and Jay just wipes him out at the knees. Do you recall that played, Juice,

I don't. I don't remember. That has too many hits, Travis, I do apologize, and being the biggest Dolf fan, you know you think I would remember something like that, man, But you know, Seth made a made a point of talking about when he heard Fred Taylor run by. Listen to Ricky Wallives running by you one time, So if I would have been there and saw that those those legs right there. Man, what a beast of a runner he was. And so yeah, I wish I did remember that.

I do remember, you know, very few plays. If let me tell you this, Travis, I don't remember a lot of plays that I played it myself. So imagine me trying to remember, you know, games I didn't play in. So it's a little rough. Sometimes I apologize, brother, No,

it's all good. I wanted to. I was curious to kind of get a segway off that about Ja because we had j a couple of weeks ago for the Patriots game and he's talking about recall he was busting out you know, formations and who was lined up in the in the play on a game that happened back

in two thousands. So it's funny how you know, some players hit the quarter protected the protected, but Jay was one of those guys that he would stick his head in there and you know, dive head first into the end zone, throw a block on a defensive end off the outside. So I just want to hear, you know, maybe you've got a story forced juice about Jay and maybe something that he did one time that kind of earned your respect is like, Okay, this guy is not

just a quarterback, he's a football player. Well Jay was that. He was a football player, and you know, and the way he ran, you know what I mean in terms of workouts, the way he lifted in the weight room, the way he was a leader, the way he got along with both sides of the football. You know, Jay was that guy man that you know that some of the guys you know, might have more talent one way or another, but you're not gonna find a better teammate

and a better leader. And you know, I look back at some of the games, of course, everybody was reflected you back to the you know, to the Oakla Raider game with with the you know, four down the scramble and him getting into the end zone or were the clock runs out on this night and fourth down, but you know, things like that. But Jay was just that type of leader man, and he ran It's so it's

ironic you say that. I think cham was our coordinator when I was playing with with Jay, and he ran that thing to perfection, you know, And we had a really good connection a lot of times when I was able to get in there with the with the foot injury and everything else, but I tell you man what a great leader he was. And like I said, anybody that gets along with both sides of the ball like Jay did, those are the guys that you go to battle with, and Jay was that guy you always want

to go to bottle. You mentioned the Raiders game diving across the goal line that we kind of talked about there when I did the flashback podcast with him. He had the poster was in his backdrop on the window behind him, and I pointed out after we got done recording the podcast, I say, I remember watching that game in my living room losing my mind. J that was awesome, and he goes, the only reason that's there is because I don't have a sunshade for that. I thought that

was really good, and that's Jay. It's funny, though, you bring that game up, because when when Jay was in the fish tank, you talk about that game and and to your point, Travis, a few plays earlier, he ran for first down and slid and he got a hit while he was going down and really, you know today probably would have been under the blue tent and canton in concussion protocol and uh, I forget who he said it was that was It was a prep Paring or somebody that was trying to wave him off the field,

and or maybe James midnight and he said, he told him, don't you ever tell somebody getting me off this field? And I get back in the huddle, let's go run on the play. And you could see he's he's doing me. Uh, he's about to follow down and somehow he kept going. And but Jay indicated, you know a guy who comes up that way. Look, Travis, not everybody's the first round draft pick, like oh J M. Duffy, right, But so Jay the guy who I mean, he had he had a football for a year and a half and he

was coaching a hospital and everything else. And so he indicated when he finally got a chance to get under center and again he was gonna everything could to prevent anybody from taken out away sor it was. It was fun to watch him that way too, because you definitely, you know, football kind of has that blue collar mentality. You might hear teams, you know broadcast us talk about the Steelers are a blue collar town. Now football is

a blue collar sport. And so when you see a player put his body on the line like that, you that resonates with you as a fan and you can just appreciate that guy more. And I want to talk to you guys about the Fish Tank here as we get out of here for this edition of Drive Time. But Seth, I'm gonna do it to you many because we talked about the Ricky Williams touchdown run. You've talked about it on the Fish Tank podcast. I just I gotta ask you because that was we we talked about this.

It was Ricky Williams for me and King Griffe Jr. Growing up were the two guys that I looked that I just thought were the best athletes I've ever seen. And come to find out years later, after reading my newspaper eating my cheerios for breakfast one morning, reading that Ricky Williams have retired from football, crying into my cheerios, I come to find out now that I'm friends with the guy that that that made him do it. Well.

Your co signing way too quickly, on quickly, so listen, I'm getting a whole lot of credit here that I don't think I deserve. And I love to take credit for things. That being said, there were a lot of things going on in Ricky's life. You know when he indicated that in the tank he had a lot going on. Uh, there were some contractual issues. He was he had carried the ball and taking a lot of hits for two years here with the Dolphins and felt that perhaps his

value was more than what they were assessing it. As um, we know that there there were some recreational activities that he was involved in that that maybe didn't fall in line with what the NFL rules were. So so there's that piece as well. But the fact of the matter is I did, after eight years of working through the team, I did accept a position from Jason to go run the foundation. And when I was going around saying by the guys, particularly guys I was close with, like a Ricky.

Ricky was the one guy who said, you know, can can I ask you why you're leaving? And I shared it with him. I just didn't know he was going to connect with that way. You know, no, no, if somebody's gonna connect with So I guess. You know, as I said earlier in the show here that you learn as a PR guy to keep your mouth shut. Maybe that was one of those instances I should have kept my mouth shut. Yeah, I know, Juice loves to give you a hard time for that, right, Juice. It's it's terrible, man.

You know, I didn't realize it until we did the podcast. That Step was the reason we lost the best running back and dolf in history, you know, And that's I blame him whole whole hardly STEP's fault. He can try to blame Ricky said, Ricky had other things going on, But you know what Step game that final push. Yeah, I mean, that's the last push that got him into retirement. No. I carried that with me for a long time because his eyes like lit up when I see ye, his

eyes lit up like damn, like a eureka. Maybe that's what I spent football. Weeks later, he's calling me for Trasher's phone number and then dance phone number, and I was like, oh no, I don't know if this is

a good thing. But but you know, from a football perspective, it was devastating to so many and within the building and outside and I get that, um, but you know, from the human side of things, this is a guy that spent spent a lot of time working on himself and trying to find himself, and this is something that he felt he needed and and don't seth, Seth, don't do that. Man. He should have done that after football. He still had football left. Any man, everybody finds himself

after football. But maybe maybe he geted that and he came back right right, all right, I guess. Yeah, Well we'll let you want to get people to listen to the Fish, Well, we're gonna let you off the hook here and talk about what you guys got coming to the pipe this week, because you had Keith Sims on Tuesday's podcast, and uh, you guys want to talk about that episode a little bit, maybe what's coming up next

for you? Yeah, Keith was great and entertank man. You know, we had Richmond Webb on already and we just dropped Keith as you know. Um, but he was so much fun to talk about, you know, the good old days and some of the stories that went along in that locker room, some Bruce Smith stories and playing with Webby and you know, having Danny as a quarterback and you know, just any and everything that you want to talk to Keith about. Man, he's so knowledgeable about the game, you know,

and and uh that do with everybody. You're good, okay, Yeah, he's so knowledgeable about the game man, and so you know, we talked about you know, his RV. You know what he what he does now, which is one of his his his great hobbies that he enjoys men, and you know, being a you know, homeschool and he's homeschooling his kids right now. So there's a lot of things about these guys after football that that is very interesting. But Keith when here and Richmond were drafted, you know, and he

talks about his draft story. It was very interesting. I mean that that draft story itself was was was crazy, you know. And it's a lot of guys with these types of stories, man. But you know, it doesn't matter where you get drafted, is where you going and making the most of them, and I think Keith did that

for the most part. Yeah, The Fish Tank Podcast with Keith Sims is now available for you guys wherever get your podcast from and uh seth, I'll give you the final word here mannything else you guys are working on coming to the pipeline. We've just got a lot of fun guys to talk to. We have another Keith that's uh in in QE Keith Keith Jackson will be coming up. Um Todd Wade was you know, you talk about another

big guy in the line who you know. I think a lot of people think that these linemen are just big and quiet, but Todd had some It was a lot of fun. Uh, even gonna show off some singing skills and tank. So I just you know, we these these flashbacks are great, Travis, and you do a beautiful

job with him, and and that's certainly our wheelhouse. We like to look back and and and just be nostalgic and really again be narrative driven, tell great stories and hopefully give fans some insight on if they were hanging out with O and one of their other favorite players and some other guy they wish would shut up, what would that sound like all day? And that's yeah. I figured we couldn't do flashback without getting you guys on

at one point. And you talk about those conversations. We did the charity poker tournament of the night just hearing just hearing JT and Juice go back and forth. I was a fly on the wall. I was really wanted to play my pocket A says, I want to just hear that conversation. Man, Hey, you gotta give the business, you know, Vis I've got to give the Hall of Famers the business. You know, If I don't give Doom the business, I can't give anybody else a business. No,

no juice. I you're on that wall in that building I walk into every day too, So don't set yourself short there, sir. Yeah, alright they are O. J McDuffie and Seth Levitt of the fish Tank Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network, fellows, thank you so much, A lot of fun to do this with you guys, Thanks for having and just as I said I wasn't gonna do it at the start of the show, I do it there again at the end of the show,

getting them both talking over each other. But how good was that those guys have such rapport, such fun on chemistry on the fish Tank Podcast. You guys can find that again, Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast from. Check out the fish Tank Podcast as well as the Drivetime Podcast and ask for this edition of Flashback Thursday here as we have a game tonight Dolphins and Jaguars, go check out the preview podcast if you have not done so already, as well as written content up on

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