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Drive Time - Dolphins Jaguars Week 3 Preview, Myles Gaskin Exclusive

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Travis is back for a loaded Wednesday edition of the Drive Time podcast. We'll preview the Dolphins-Jaguars TNF game, hear from Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Breida, Isaiah Ford and Jesse Davis, and we'll finish with an exclusive interview with running back Myles Gaskin.

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Practice thro Alpis Pafford Growing Park touchdown. What a win for this Miami Dolphin team. Wow? What is up? Dolphins? And welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official podcast network, covering your Miami Dolphins each and every day. How's it going everybody? It is Wednesday, It is hump day, one day before game day, and I am your host, Travis Wingfield, here to bring you your

daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, just a little bit more than twenty four hours until kick off for Week number three, we're gonna get you ready for that game comprehensively, starting with John Conjemmies, three keys of the game, my preview, main matchups to highlight, We'll hear from running back Miles Gaskin and get you all the latest on Dolphins Jaguars for Tomorrow night on Thursday Night Football. All of that and more on a

busy Wednesday, September edition of the Drivetime Podcast. Let's go ahead and kick this thing off with the latest injury report as we produced this podcast. We're gonna have an update on this game with the Wednesday final report later up on social media on Miami Dolphins dot Com. But as for Tuesday, Dolphins listed ten players on their injury report. One player did not practice. That was Byron Jones, the cornerback.

We had four limited participants in that practice with safety Clayton federalum quarnerback Xavien Howard, defensive end Shack Lawson, and wide receiver Davante Parker. We also had five players who were full participants in running back Matt Breed up, receiver Jachem Grant, defensive end Emmanuel Ogba, as well as two linebackers, Landon Roberts and Kyle van Noyle. On the Jacksonville side of things, receiver DJ Shark and Tyler Davis the tight end we're both limited, so too was kicker Josh Lambo.

Center Brandon Linder did not practice and neither did safety Brandon Watson. And it is a little bit different this week with a different schedule for the Thursday night football game. So usually we get John Knjemmis three keys to the game on the Friday podcast. We're gonna go ahead and do that today right now. As a matter of fact, really enjoyed watching the Buffalo game alongside John and kind

of sharing our notes back and forth. Really cool to get that inside look there from a guy that knows the game so well, and he has his three keys out for the Dolphins at Jacksonville. His number one key is to win on third down because the Dolphins defense has not played with the aggression most anticipated heading into the season. John says they haven't made plays behind the line of scrimmage or folst forced the opponents into making mistakes,

especially on those third down chances. He says New England and Buffalo both were able to stick to their game plan, running and passing on their terms. It will be up to the Dolphins to force the Jaguars out of their game plan and the Dolphins to really force the hand and show what they want to do and dictate the

pace of the game that way. And we heard Josh Bowyer talk about that on Monday, the reference to we have to get off the field on third downs because the more plays you're on the field, that's gonna just create more opportunities for the offense, more issues and test your conditioning even more so. Getting off the field on those third downs obviously key, and dictating the pace of the game on your schedule. Number two for John here

is to force force Minshoe mistakes. That's hard to say. Jacksonville. Second, your quarterback has a lot of fun to watch. You guys know how I feel about him, go Coog's. He brings a lot of energy and enthusiasm to the Jaguars offense and huddle, his scramble ability, the ability to go off script and make plays. But you force Menshoe outside the pocket, you force him into some possible errand throws.

That's how you can get him. We're gonna talk more about some of his statistics later on in the preview portion of this podcast, and number three for John here on the keys to Jacksonville running a past first offense, he says, sometimes you need to mix up the offensive game plan a bit to achieve the results you're looking for. In Miami's run game through two games has not complimented the passing attack, rushing for a total of one six yards. He talks about Miles Gaskins five point four yards per

attempt and second on the team with ten receptions. The offense has had more success earlier this season. He says, when it starts off aggressively throwing the football, and we saw that in the Buffalo game. Right Ryan Fitzpatrick talked about that, Chan Gailey talked about that how sometimes the defense can dictate what you do in the running game.

If they're gonna put seven eight guys in the box up against your six guys to block them, that becomes a challenge, right you have two couple of free guys coming into the running back that way. And Gaily mentioned and Fitzpatrick mentioned some of the play action passing games, throwing in behind the linebackers, using the middle of the field, the inbreaking routes, and we're gonna cover more of that

on the preview here. But once again, John's three Keys to Jacksonville went on third down, force, minshoe mistakes, and pass first offense. And with that, let's go ahead and turn the script here and get to my preview up on Miami Dolphins dot com. This thing is lengthy, it's

in depth, it's in the weeds. Got an early start this week because we had to get out in front of things with the preview piece with the Thursday game, so I had some extra time to kind of fine tune this thing, and I'm very proud and very happy

with the result up on Miami Dolphins dot com. Let's go ahead and review the preview here for doll Fins and Jaguars tomorrow night on NFL Network at eight twenty Eastern time, five twenty for you folks out in the West at t I A A bank field, oh and two Dolphins one and one Jaguars, seventy six degrees partly cloudy, eight percent humidity in northern Florida. And this is the battle of the two youngest teams in the NFL. It's about a five hour drive up north up The Washington

resident in me had to look that up. About a five hour drive a little more than an hour flight, so pretty close proximity here for the Dolphins on a short week. And I always try to look at how these two teams, or the Dolphins and their opponent, I should say, measure up both with the parallels and the differences. Last week we talked about Sean McDermott's Buffalo team kind of having the same starting point as Miami from twenty nineteen Buffalo beginning in twenty seventeen, and how they both

kind of emphasized culture and toughness and smart players. Well, this Jacksonville team has done a good job this last offseason of acquiring draft Capital the way Miami did last off season, and they play hard for their head coach Doug Moron gets the most out of those guys, and both teams rallied late on Sunday in their games but came up just short and divisional contest with either side hoping to carry that momentum into a many bye week.

You get a victory, you enjoy the weekend, you enjoyed the next week, and get ready for a Week four. It's a good time to get a w here for either of these teams, and this game will serve as the first prime time game for many a young players in this game, again two of the youngest teams, the two youngest teams in the National Football League. But it's not the first time Jacksonville's Gardner Minshew has seen primetime.

You might recall last year minshew Mania NFL version not down and Pullman at Martin Stadium there with the Washington State Cougars, but at the NFL level, was born on a Thursday night football game that also was in a Week three when he threw a pair of touchdown passes in his first career win over the Tennessee Titans. The Dolphins looked to bounce back on a short week under

the prime time lights. This matchup pits two young teams who are still developing their chemistry, their camaraderie, trying to find their identity in a very unique season play. Any of intrigued to cover in this battle for Florida and the Jacksonville personnel does start there with quarterback Gardner Minshew. He threw just one in completion and three touchdown passes on opening Day in that season opening win over the

Indianapolis Colts. He follows up that hat trick with another one in the Week two lost Tennessee, so he has six touchdown passes on the year. Had a couple of picks in game number two, but they were both deflections at the line of scrimmage late in the game there, so I'm not really sure how much you put stock into those. But coming out of that air raid in college, out of that mic Leach system, he really can process the defense quickly you have to in that system, and

he also has that flair for the dramatic. He has twelve runs of ten or more yards in his young career. Coach Flora has talked a little bit on Tuesday about his ability to get out of the pocket and scramble and make plays that way. Running Back James Robinson another player the coach referenced in his press conference. He has nearly the double the snaps of Jacksonville's number two running back and Chris Thompson, who, of course, for units this year.

With offensive coordinator Jay Gruden coming over from wash Ington, Robinson is the first undrafted rookie running back to start opening day in the NFL. He's rushed for one hundred and sixty four yards and scored a pair of touchdowns, one receiving one on the ground early on here in his rookie season. And he runs behind an offensive line that has plenty of continuity in Juwan Taylor and Brandon Linder and A j Can and Andrew Norwell, a bunch of big guys up front that have been there for

a long time together. And they've allowed just thirdteen pressures through two games so far. On the quarterback, that's, of course, according to Pro Football Focus, Minshew himself is credited with five of those pressures and three of those sacks. He will hang onto the ball a little bit. That's kind of how you create that magic, right the Ben Roethlisberger approach, hang onto the ball, try to extend plays that way.

It can bite you a little bit times, but with these guys with Minshew, it typically winds up better for the quarterback because he's so adept at making plays. But four of the Jacksonville lineman grade above their positional average on Pro Football Focus, So a good offensive line out wide. At the receiver spot, DJ Chark produced his first one thousand yards see season inten but through two games so far this year, he has just twenty five receiving yards.

But he's a sudden, shifty receiver with plenty of speed to burn. Dolphins will have to take care of him to find a way to win in this game. On Thursday, Lavisca Channault Jr. Out of Colorado the rookie. Love this guy coming out. He's going to test the Dolphin's ability to tackle because he has a thick lower half and the ability to really just bounce off defenders in that second level and create big plays after the catch. He's gonna line up all over the formation too. We'll talk

more about that here in just one moment. Defensively, the show was ran by Miles Jack and Joe Schobert. More on those guys here and Josh Allen defense event in just one moment. In the secondary, Jacksonville is very young, very green, but very aggressive and playing well so far as rookie cornerback. First round draft picks C. J. Henderson starts alongside Trey Herndon, who is in his second year

as a starter there in Jacksonville. The first round pick Henderson, he's limiting quarterbacks to a fifty three point eight percent completion rate so far in the early going, while Herndon is at an even fifty percent completion on throws. Target for his man, Josh Jones, the safety looks to have found a home in his third NFL season seven or third NFL city, I should say so far Green Bay, Dallas, and now the Jaguars. Seven of his nineteen tackles this

season qualify as run stops. Those are tackles within two yards of the line of scrimmage. Some of the matchup highlights look at here the Dolphins pass rush first. The Jaguars offensive line. We heard from coach Flores on Tuesday talking about the importance of getting more pressure on the quarterback and trying to find ways to create pressure on opposing offensive lines and Gardner Minshew. This guy plays high efficiency football with that dash of magic, the off script playmaking.

You can't really plan for that because it just kind of his Jim sand Lot football kind of happens on its own. But making the pocket uncomfortable for him, that's a winning recipe against the youngster, or really for any quarterback.

When under duarrest. In twenty nineteen his rookie season, Minshoe average five point three yards per pass attempt with a forty one nine percent completion rate, and he also finished his rookie season hide for the fourth most fumbles with twelve starts as the Jacksonville quarterback last year, but when he was kept clean, Minshew completed sixty eight point three percent of his passes for seven points six yards per pass that according to Pro Football Focus, and of Miami's

nineteen quarterback pressures this year, seven of those have come from the interior rushers Christian Wilkins, Ray Kwon Davis, and Davon god Show. God Show and Davis have two a peace, Wilkins has three per PFF. Additionally, linebackers Jerale Baker and Kyle van Noy both have a pass brush pressure coming from the b gaps that's the space between the guard

and the tackle on the offensive line. So really nine pressures of the nineteam coming on that interior rush up the middle, and all but four of Jacksonville's pressures allowed on the other side of the ball have come from their interior offensive line, from the quarterback or the running back working inside there. In pass protection, forcing Minshew off the spot and plastering on the back end will be critical. Once the quarterback breaks the pocket, the play kind of

breaks down in the back end. You have to plaster and man coverage. You can use that physical h once the quarterbacks outside of the pocket disrupt the routes that way. It'll be key for the Dolphins defensive backs to make that happen. And look for Christian Wilkins with his quickness and crafty rush arsenal inside to make an impact on this game. The next matchup I'm gonna highlight here is Josh Allen, not the quarterback, the defensive end, the pass

rusher versus both Jesse Davis and Austin Jackson. No returning Jacksonville defender. They lost Calais Campbell's well as Johnique and got Way this offseason, so no returning Jacksonville defender has more quarterback pressures in nineteen than Josh Allen, and after one pressure in the season opener, he had three in Week two. Beginning to heat up a little bit here as the season goes along. The number seven overall pick in twenty nineteen really vaulted that draft stock into top

ten territory. With a seventeen sacks senior season at Kentucky, he combines a rare, rare blend of length and athletic ability, something the Dolphins discovered for themselves last preseason. You might recall when he had a pair of sacks in that exhibition game, and he had a ten and a half sacks season as a rookie. When the games began to count, he's looking for his first sack of the season. He goes two hundred and sixty two pounds thirty three and

a half inch arms. He ran a four six three forty yard dash with impressive ten and twenty yard splits as well. He splits his pass rush operation evenly between the right and left side. According to Pro Football Focus, that's at off the right side, off the left side as far as where he aligns and so when he does line up off the offense is left, he'll get athletic rookie Austin Jackson, who has not allowed a quarterback

hit through two games so far. And off the right side, he's gonna draw a battle tested veteran Jesse Davis who's allowed just five pressures on the season. And then the third matchup, and perhaps my favorite the ones that I think this game might come down to is Ryan Fitzpatrick versus both Miles Jack and Joe Schobert, the two linebackers of the Jaguars we referenced earlier on in this podcast and on the preview piece up on Miami Dolphins dot Com.

All but three of Jacksonville's sixteen quarterback pressures have come from their down linemen. They don't rush the quarterback all that often with linebackers Miles Jack and Joe Sholbert primarily

coverage guys. They play in that Todd Wash defense, and Todd Wash came from that Seattle tree with Gus Braley and Pete Carroll where they love to get pressure on the quarterback with their down four play that cover three on the back end and really forced the quarterback to beat you into tight windows with a good pass rush from the front four. The two linebackers Showburt and Jack have played a combined two hundred and seventy two snaps this year, and they've rushed the pass where the combined

thirteen times. That means Brian Fitzpatrick is going to have to influence these instinctive range linebackers to pick apart his preferred area of the field, the middle of the field. Between the numbers testing the middle. Through two games per PFF, Fitzpatrick is thirty four or forty two with three hundred and sixty three passing yards and two touchdowns throwing the football over the middle. He also has the two interceptions, but high completion rate, high yards per attempt attacking down

the seam. Linebacker Miles Jack led Jacksonville's defense, or leads it rather in a plethora of categories. He has the most tackles with sixteen run stops. At eighteen sacks, he's got one that's tied with Caleb and Chason despite the limited pass rush exposure he has, and he has just one miss tackle on the season. Shobert last year in Cleveland led all NFL linebackers with four interceptions. He also broke up nine passes and forced two fumbles, so really

really good ball production there. From the new free agent acquisition of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Fitzpatrick repeatedly went to work on the inbreaking routes on a variety of targets on Sunday, throwing to Isaiah four, to Mike Gaski, Davante Parker, chesting the middle part of the football field, and a lot of that was set up through the play action game. Fitzpatrick has the highest completion percentage differential between play action

passes and traditional setups. Throwing from play action, he completes twenty eight point two percent more of his passes than on traditional pass setups. His ability to influence these two linebackers of the Jacksonville defense and take away the middle of the football field. Whoever wins that part of the field could have a big impact on this game. The Jacksonville system offensively, they've ran a hundred and twenty two

play as through their first two games. That's the sixth fewest in the NFL, and the primary grouping they call on is eleven personnel, like most teams in the National Football League, one running back, one tight end, three receivers and new offensive coordinator Jay Gruden dials up that bread and butter six of the time. The Jags don't really have a secondary package because all the rest of them are kind of sparsed out, so no significant increase from

one package to the next. Really, they do use twenty one personnel and twelve personnel the next most. Those have been ran eleven percent of the time and seven percent of the time so far for the Jacksonville offense, and they will utilize the versatility they have on offense to get themselves into different personnel groupings, most notably through wide receiver Leavisco Chanel Jr. Although calling him a receiver is disingenuous.

The rookie who did this at Colorado took wildcats snaps, took jet sweep snaps, took zone red snaps at the running back possession, played in line planed out why he has been out wide this year forty five snaps. He's played in the slot fifteen times. He's been in the backfield ten times. He's been in line as basically a quasi tight end slash h back role three times. He

even played quarterback for one direct snap this year. So he will be all over the football field for this Jacksonville offense, and this approach allows Jacksonville to get into those empty looks that Gardner Minshew loved in college. You go five wide, whether you've got a tight end at running back on the field, five receivers on the field, get into the empty set, use that quick trigger and decisive approach to get the football out before the pass

rush can arrive. The ball comes out in less than two and a half seconds on fifty percent of Minshew's drop backs, and he's completing of those passes per Pro Football Focus. Jacksonville's pair of linebackers that haven't left the

field we talked about them already, Jack and Shobert. They are joined by Trey Herndon and C. J. Henderson, as well as safety Josh Jones as the five defenders on that side of the football with better than workloads through two weeks, and Jack and Schobert rarely come after the quarterback. The Jaguars dial up blitz just nine point six percent of the time. That's the seventh lowest rate in the National Football League. Some final news, some final thoughts and

game notes here. Jacksonville leads the all time series five to four. Courtesy of the Loan playoff game between these two teams. Of course, we know the result of that game. In the Dolphins have not beaten Jacksonville since team, with the Jaguars boasting a two game win streak over their in state rivals, and both defenses are gonna have their conditioning put to the test and their three point defeats on Sunday, both Miami and Jacksonville to Buffalo and Indianapolis

had nine players on defense exceed forty snaps. So a quick turnaround here, we'll see who has the conditioning to stay for sixty minutes. Ryan Fitzpatrick has enjoyed success in his career against Jacksonville. He's unbeaten in his last three starts against the Jaguars, and he's looking for his fourth out of five games on Thursday Night Football with a passer rating better than one oh five in his career.

Running Back Miles Gascon had a career high eighty two yards from scrimmage last week, and he's looking for his fifth consecutive game with fifty yards from scrimmage. And Mike Kaski's career day for eight catches, one and thirty receiving yards gives him one hundred and sixty yards on the season that leads all tight ends. So there's your preview,

intriguing matchup on primetime on Thursday Night Football. As always, we're going to recap this game both on Miami Dolphins dot Com as well as on the Drive Time podcast post game, and I'll be tweeting throughout the game of course as well, getting you through Dolphins Jaguars prime time in week number three. Let's go ahead and here from our last player media availability, starting with Dolphins right tackle Dolphins offensive lineman Jesse Davis, who first was asked about

the quick turnaround going from Sunday to Thursday. Um, just recovery. You know how quick you can get out of one week and into the next with you know, dropping what you're doing with watching film and the other game and then just move right into the next one. So just having you know, a short memory loss there and moving in. Hey, Jesse, wanted to ask you guys about going up against defensive end Josh Allen. You saw him a couple of times I think in the preseason his first year in Just

want to see what you get from him on tape. Yeah, he's a good player, know, he's quick. Um, good loteral movement. Um, you know, it would be a good, good matchup for us with him and how fast he is. But you know they have a good they have a good line anyways. You know. So it's like every week and prepare the same way. Um, you know, our one goal will get to win, protect fits and get the run game going.

And speaking of getting that run game going, up next, Jesse Davis was asked about what he ideally envisions the identity of this offensive line looking like here in Miami. Yeah, I think the identity of us. You know, we want to be respective, we want to be feared when we go into a game. We want to be able to do our job and do it well. And moving forward, I think, you know, we're starting to build that chemistry.

We're starting to gell gell well nicely together. And it's just you know, every week and just keep putting it on tape and keep doing what we've been doing. We're gonna hear from quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick in just one moment, but first let's go ahead and talk to one of his receivers. And as I Afford who first here discusses the freedom receivers have, Chan Gillies offense. We've heard Jechim Grant, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Chan himself talk about the free freedom

this system creates for the receivers. Here's Isaiah Ford on just that topic. So I think it's a little bit of both. Um, there's certain concepts that we have where if it's uh defensive plan zoned and it's more about being in the right spots, um, you know, running the route route, sometimes he may have to open it up for another receiver and then when this man coverage, that's when he really allows us to have that freedom and being at the spot that he's expecting us to be it.

But how we get to that destination, Um, it's really on us, you know, being creative and getting to that spot. And we've heard a few times now about the relationship between Isaiah Ford and Ryan Fitzpatrick and the ability for them to get on the same page. On offense, here is Ford talking about his quarterback and what he means to this offense. I just think his leadership and his commanding the huddle kind of gives everyone a sense of peace, you know, especially us having a lot of younger guys.

You know, he he's always calm, you know, comforting, and even if he makes the joke or something, whatever the case may be, but he's a do's a really good job at getting everyone comfortable and ready to go out and execute. You might recall the feature we did back in training camp on Isaiah Ford. I had a chance to ask him about his post reception celebration spinning the football on the turf on Sunday. He got up into

a little bit of a flex. Here's where that came from, now, and that's something that I've kind of joked around with the guys in the receiver room with me adding that way this offseason and putting on some of that muscles, so being able to kind of take some of those hits and and that kind of bounced back us a little bit. So that's something something fun that out I've been messing with the guys. Let's stay on the offensive

side of the football. And here next from Dolphins running back Matt Brita, who first was asked about his role in the offense and the way he accepts and approaches that role here in Miami. It's it's understood as day one that you know, um, whatever they asked me to do, I told us today what I'm gonna do. Um. Not the type of guys want to complain about how many carriers I get, how many yards I get if I make it to the Pro Bowl. Like at the end of the day, Uh, we want to win. We won't

win championships. That's what we're paid to do. Uh. You know, if I was paid to, you know, worry about how many number of yards I would get, then that would be a different story. But I'm paid to, you know, win championships, and that's our end goal. So you know, we just want to win. And on the topic of winning, here is Matt discussing the Dolphins getting close against the Buffalo Bills, taking that fourth quarter lead and having opportunities late in that game to seize victory. Here's Brita on

taking advantage of those opportunities. Yeah. Like I said, it's everyone on the team, you know, players, um, even even the coaches. You know, everyone feels like we could have done a better job um during the game. And we're all gonna keep working to make sure that we can finish the games because you know, we're right there. And let's go ahead and finish up here with quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, who first was asked to talk about Jacksonville quarterback Gardner Minshield.

I haven't seen him play a toime but a few times I have, and um, you know, I like watching them. I enjoys play and style. Looks like he's out there, you know, having fun, and he's been I mean, it's not easy to play quarterback in this league. It's not easy to play as a young quarterback. And he's already had a lot of success. He's had a great start to the season, so, um, you know, he's He's a guy. I don't think I've played against him, so I'm excited

to watch him play and see how he does. We're gonna come back to Minshew and the debate between mustaches and beards here in just one second. But first, here is Fitzpatrick on what Chan Gailey's offense in an ideal world operating at full efficiency at full power, looks like and what it does to create matchup opportunities for the offense. I think it's supposed to be an offense that changes

every week, but an offense that Taylor's our strengths. So for example, with the when I was in New York with Chan, I don't I mean, you can look at the stats of the tight ends and how many catches they had, but I don't think any of them had a hundred yard even in a season. So UM, you know, we've got different skill sets and different guys here that we want to try to get involved. Uh, whether it's you know, the big guys on the outside, whether it's our quick guys on the inside. Isaiah Ford had a

great game last week. Um, continuing to get the running backs more involved. I just think as we're going here, he's going to continue to figure out what's going to make us a good offense, a dynamic offense, and we'll keep feeding those parts. So UM, I think part of the charm and his offense is how multiple it is, and you know, the ability for it to look different

from week to week. And while game does recognize game when it comes to play in the quarterback position, Fitzpatrick says, maybe the beer game a little stronger than Minshoo's mustache. Just the continued hard work and continued passion for the game. Those are two things that you know, if you have a little bit a little bit of success, you just

can't lose sight of Um. And then the mustache versus the beard, I mean I think the beard is a cooler look, and I think guys that grow mustaches a lot of times have hatchy sides for their beards, so they just stick with the mustache. But my wife appreciates the mustache trimmed up a little bit more, but she does hate the beard too, so I guess that's a

lose lose for me. I have a question for you that I'm sure something you've seen on film, but I read some stats earlier to my research on this game, and Jacksonville sends an extra Russia at the seventh lowest rate in the NFL. And they have two linebackers and Showburt and Jack who have played a combined two seventy snaps and only thirteen combined pass rush nats between the two. So my question is, what's the difference between playing a team that dials up pressure relentlessly versus a team that

plays more coverage based. Well, you know, for me as a as a quarterback, you look at some of that stuff and you look at tendencies, but if they do blitz, then we need to have an answer for it. So you know, I can't sit year and rely on those things. We've got to have answers for everything, um, But part of it is when you go into a game, are these guys generating pressures and hurries? And how do they

do it? Do they rush forward? They bring exotics? Um, And there are a lot of different ways to do it. You know, it was so little film. We can look at years past and things that have happened, but you kind of have to be ready for everything. So we just continue to look at matchups. We continue to look at what they want to do with those guys, just like us trying to put our guys in good positions

to make plays. Uh. But definitely, you know it's going to be a matchup game like it always is, and we'll try to um as best we can get our guys on the guys that we want to get them on and try to create those good matchups. Let's go ahead and finish up this Wednesday podcast with my exclusive interview with Dolphins running back Miles Gaskin, who finally answered the question for me, why don't you break my heart?

Four years in a row in the Apple Cup? And I'm joined now by Dolphins second year running back, the leading rusher on the team right now, Miles Gaskin Miles. How you doing, man, I'm doing well hours so not too bad, man. I got some questions for you here. I wanted to really kind of focus on our geographical I suppose upbringing you and I we both come from the Pacific Northwest. You were born in Lynnwood, and I

just wanted to ask you. That's an area up there that's known for several like institutions like Starbucks, Dick's Burgers, Costco started out there. It's nationwide now, but it began there. Maybe it's the grunge era. I don't know if you're a Nirvana or a Pearl Jam guy, but what's the one Pacific Northwest institution that you missed the most. I'll probably say Dicks Burgers. I'll probably say that for sure.

I'm missing home sometimes, but that's probably one thing I do and I do go home, goes by the excuse me, a very good shape, hang out outside and then uh and get that fast food going. It's probably not the best food for you, but I definitely miss it as well myself. Man, It's it's good stuff. And on that topic, um, are you a basketball guy? Miles? A little bit? I

like I like watching it. I'm not too good, but I like watching so maybe a little bit before your time, but the Seattle SuperSonics broke my heart when they moved in two thousand eight. You were still pretty young at the time, but I'm just curious. Was that your team growing up? Yeah? I was my team when h I think it was Kevin Durant's rookie year. I think he was there for his rookie years and then he left

and then they got really good with okay see. So like just like the missing him kind of like grew on me. It's like gang Like they had James Harden, they had Russell West rook and u k D. So that kind of hurt. But I missed them hopefully come back, hopefully working things out so they can come back. Did you wind up becoming an okay See fan? Yeah? I did. Actually, I like, I like k D when he was there. I know he's gone now, but I was my squad

group past couple of years. Man, That's that's blasphemy, Miles. I gotta say, man, we uh, I went the other way. I became an okay See hater. Really yeah, I mean they took our team and it was it was so brutal. They were there for so long and really before you know, the Seahawks were never a good team in the eighties and nineties, and the Mariners certainly weren't either, so it was kind of a Sonics town there for a long time. Yeah, before I understand well on that topic, are you a

baseball guy to Seattle Marriers? Because I love my Manners man. I like the Manners, but I know nothing about him and I go to the game. Uh, enjoyed the games. I enjoyed the atmosphere, but winner lose. I have a good time with the game. Yes, safe, go fields, gorgeous man to my for my money, the best part in all of baseball. Yeah, I love it there. Do you have a favorite Manners player growing up? Was? Were you also a little bit too young for Kinkerfree Jr? Or

do you remember him too? I remember him? Uh person, I like the most of the eat euro when he was there. Um, just just uh. I never really watched the base all Like I said, I just kind of enjoyed the game part of it. He was like the person I watched as a Mariner that like, I was very impressed with them the way he played. He's always kind of making like some wold play. So how's my god? Yeah, hall of Famer? Or is he in the Hall of Famer? I can't remember anyway. He should be soon anyway. I

don't think he's been retired for long enough. But he'll be there when he's when he's eligible, for sure. Um Let's let's talk about a sport you are familiar with and one that Miles you broke my heart several years in a row. Sir, I am a Washington State Cougar alumni, so I'll let you just go ahead and laugh about that real quick. Yeah, that was some good game. Again, I think it was. I want to say it was eight hundred yards and eight touchdowns you had in four

years against us. That probably something like that. So let me just explain to you what Apple Cup looks like for Washington State Cougar fans. So we especially when you were there, that was kind of the turn when things got better for us as Coogs fans. Was you know, Mike Leach came around, They started playing better football, winning more games, And it seems like every year that you were there that was based sickly for the Pack twelve North and we would get all hyped up. My friends

would come over. It was you know, the day after Thanksgiving. Everybody was off work. We were all excited about the game, and then about a quarter in it was a bad mood. So you know, it would we would eat a bunch of food, watch the game, and then afterwards there would be a bunch of tweets from former Huskies And I want to say that you were one of them maybe last year, and I think it was you. Maybe not

correct me if I'm wrong that how to tweet? It was something like, you know, every time we play the Apple Cup, they know what's up, we know what's up, and then it happens like that. Do you recall that. I don't, but I would be surprised that. Um yeah, it just always worked out in our favorite I love that type of the game, just playing at the playing

at home. I mean either way, there's like a lot of people that went to Washington State obviously, you know while I was there, just kind of just knowing the whole crowd, like you know, I went to school with them. It was always the atmosphere. Do you think was that the best game every year on the schedule for you guys, Like as far as getting up for it, having the most fun. No, No, I mean, uh, we had some other we like. I like playing against Utah and that

was my favorite team to play. Is that because they're a pretty much more physical team. Yeah, I used to talk about well, I remember watching some of those Apple Cups. It seems like they would never get out of that too high defense. But that's for another day. I'll go ahead and leave that complaint for another day. I do want to talk about a coach that was I want to say on the dub staff when you were there, who's now in Miami and Gerald Alexander that's correct, right?

Or he wasn't there while I was there. He left when I was like a senior in high school. But I didn't know him and I committed. Uh was around the around this stadium, around the building a lot. So I didn't know him before he took off to go to cow So and then now he's here. It's kind of crazy how small the world is. Yeah, it really is, right, And uh, what can you say about g A, Like, what did you what's your first impression? What do you think about it now that you're here playing with you know,

under his staff. I'm great, dude. I always thought it was was a great dude. When when I was hanging out when I was back in high school, I always kind of connected with him, always talked with him. Obviously couched the other side of the ball, but very encouraging, Uh, very vocal guy, very motivating. So I mean, none but great things about him, and uh glad to have him

on staff. And on the topic of relationships with you, Miles, I read an article recently that talked about this relationship that you developed with the sideline crew there at you dub at that stadium there, and they talked about, you know, you took time out of your day after one game to go over and take a picture with a six man crew. They talked about how genuine of a person

you were. Can you tell us about that relationship and maybe where that character trait, that genuine personality comes from. I don't. I guess you just kind of seeing them all the time, just kind of like in the heat of the moment he was battle. Was just kind of seeing him talking them after the game and just kind of chopping it up before the game with all those guys. So, I mean, I grew from freshman year to senior year to actually like create like an actual friendship with those guys,

you know what I mean. I loved every second of it. You know, that's not necessarily the relationship people I assume you create usually like talking to your teammates or coaches. But I mean, those guys always just kind of were always just chopping it up, laughing and joking after the game, before the game. It's kind of weird, but it was nice. Yeah,

something you certainly developed there in the college atmosphere. You just you can't beat that, you know, talking about both you Dove and W Shoe, it's a lot of fun on that campus during game days, and especially for you a player. I'm sure let's go ahead and wrap this thing up here. We're both again PMW guys, Miles, And there are some things that I certainly miss. I've been here for less than a year. You a little bit more than a year now, but there are some things

I don't miss as well. What is your like pros and cons list when it comes to comparing the Pacific Northwest to South Florida? Do you have some things you miss more than others, things you like down here more than others I miss I miss just kind of just the home atmosphere, just knowing where everything is, knowing just knowing where to go. And there's bad traffic and stuff like that out here, I just gotta sit in it. I don't really know what to do. I just follow

my phone. But I love it out here. Out thought of that, I love it out here. It's hot. I mean sometimes that kind of makes me mad, just kind of just sweating all the time. But it's just so much different. Like out here, there's lizards everywhere. In Seattle, you don't see lizards anywhere. Alligator and stuff like that, different types of food. It's just it's just total two different places. I love it though. I love the change.

I spent my whole life in Washington growing up, in four years of college, so like this big jump last year was a big jump is kind of eye opening. But coming back down here the second time, getting right for the season again, I was more than excited to be back down your south for So have you encountered an alligator yet? Yeah? I've seen like three or four.

I got a dog. So I like walking around like these canals and I can see like these little not big out not little alligators or not huge alligators either, Like you can kind of kind of feeding, like pop their head up, look at my dog. I'm like, not today, No, it's just crazy. They like day to day light the alligator. Every once in a while. I know, man, I'll go on my back my back porch and I'll see a lizard on the wall. It's like, well when I kind

of like freaks you out. My first day, my second day here, I got here in July and I saw an alligator climbing down the bank on Sheridan back into the little canal that I was like, Okay, that's gonna be like an everyday thing. But I haven't seen one since now. One other topic I want to finish up here with on you, Miles is the is the rain, because you know, we had that giant rainstorm the last couple of days here and kind of that tropical fields.

It's a warm rain. But you're from the Pacific Northwest on the west side of the mountains, and I'm from the east side of the mountains where it's dry desert. I know you probably know the difference in Washington State. Most folks down year I have to explain Western Washington's forest and Eastern Washington's all desert and dry. Do you miss the rain, or did you like the rain up there? I missed. I missed the Seattle rain. Like out here, when it rains, it's kind of scary, to be honest.

It's like pouring, like when you're driving in your car. You gotta have it winshield, wipers always going, and you got bundled, not bundled up out here, but like you get like went went out here. If you get caught in the rain and Seattle like it rains a little bit, I can put on the hoodie and still keep them when I need to keep them. When the rains out here, I'm staying in the house or staying wherever I'm at. Actually funny stories. When I first came down here, I

don't know. It was like the first time. It was like the first weekend. We had all went to the movies and sunny just like I would always is, and coming out of the movies it was pouring down rain and I had walked to the movie theater, so I thought I could run back. I ran back all the way back to the hotel. Phone was broken. Just ruined my day, and I was like, yeah, that's the last time I try and to out the rain. Was that the fastest four time you ever clocked right. No, I

got caught in the light. It happens to me going from from the building back to like where I do the podcast in the studio, back here on the back of the campus, I get caught out there, like every single day. It seems like, Man, So I feel you on that. Miles Gaskin, Dolphins running back, formerly of you breaking Cougar's hearts four years in a row. We're glad you gone, Miles, but we're happy you're here. Man. Appreciate

your time, Appreciate you. So there you go. Tons of information and nuggets and juicy insight into this Thursday night game at Jacksonville. There from your quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, running back Matt Brita, right tackle Jesse Davis, as well as receiver isaaih Afford, the game preview, the Key to the game from John con Jemmy, all that content up on Miami Dolphins dot com. We're gonna recap this game tomorrow night.

But before we do that, as well, we have the flashback podcast out talking about some Jags Dolphins games of the past and really, well, let's be honest, mostly losses. Because this rivalry started off with a couple of big Jacksonville wins between the two Dolphins and Jaguars. So we'll cover that on tomorrow edition of Drive Time with Seth Levitt and O J. Mcduffee, the hosts of the Fish Tank podcast here on the Miami Dolphins podcast Network. But

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