[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Drinking Throats! [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, welcome to Drinking Bro's Kids! [SPEAKER_03]: A Friday show is getting super weird today! [SPEAKER_03]: Super weird today. [SPEAKER_03]: I know I said last day in a hotel, but I forgot I've got to I've got to Drive today.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got a long drive today, but we're got one more in here than a back in the studio next week It was up late last night Hang you know with some of the folks with the world cup and all that other stuff [SPEAKER_03]: pound in some water here this morning and again the feeling of pride of our country is everywhere and these videos keep popping up over and over again and then somebody last night on Twitter so get a step further and Dan Thinna wanted to ask you about this today
[SPEAKER_03]: With everybody who's actually proud and patriotic of our country, and this is everything we've talked about this week, from UFC to 50, the World Cup, everything that's going on, seeing all these people from other countries who are grateful to be here, a lot of people were saying, hey, what would happen if you just split the country in half, and you had a true right versus left. [SPEAKER_03]: what would happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's say today is June 19th recording this on a Friday. [SPEAKER_03]: You gave everybody until January 1st of 2027 to move to the left or right side of the country. [SPEAKER_03]: So if you believe in everything on the left, everything that's liberal, you go to the left. [SPEAKER_03]: If you believe on everything that's on the right, you go to the right, you can either, well, the left would have to elect their own government because obviously Republicans have that side.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they would be fine on this side, but everybody who is currently on the right would have to agree with who's in office right now or maybe they would switch to the other side. [SPEAKER_03]: And during that, you would build 100 foot wall that goes straight down the middle of the country. [SPEAKER_03]: You can only live on one side or another. [SPEAKER_03]: And so here was the line and I'll read it off to you here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pardon me, both of us are going through a little bit of sickness here. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's start with the left. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna pull this up off my phone. [SPEAKER_03]: So the line would go directly down the middle of the country and it would be North Dakota, South Dakota. [SPEAKER_03]: Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and then Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_03]: on the right side of the new country and if you were just going to call it you know right or left in America you got Minnesota Iowa Missouri Arizona Louisiana Wisconsin Illinois Michigan Indiana Ohio Kentucky [SPEAKER_03]: Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Islands.
[SPEAKER_03]: AR is Arkansas not Arizona. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh sorry sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Arkansas. [SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just me being dumb. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and you give everybody six months to go over there. [SPEAKER_03]: You build this 100 foot wall that they cannot come back. [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like Berlin back in the day. [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of like Germany.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had East and West Germany back in the day where the wall was so high, there was troops on both sides, no matter what your choice was. [SPEAKER_03]: If you were disappointed in it, you couldn't fucking leave, dude. [SPEAKER_03]: Or you got shot and then you died over there. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, with his divided as our country is today, we've got what 330, 340 million people here in America. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, give it take 330 to 350 somewhere in that range.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you take away, if you get rid of the illegal, it's probably more like 325, 330. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, perfect. [SPEAKER_03]: 325, 330, or let me ask you this, do you keep the illegals and say, hey, you want our country to be a baby? [SPEAKER_03]: And you want some alleys and immigrants and fucking Mexicans and Guadamálins and all this other shit. [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to the left side of the country. [SPEAKER_03]: You can already get in there anyways.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see how that works out. [SPEAKER_03]: You want to sanctuary states. [SPEAKER_03]: You want to sanctuary cities. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys stay over there, but you've got to fund them. [SPEAKER_03]: You've got to take care of them. [SPEAKER_03]: And you've got to figure out a way for them to coexist with all these stupid fucking programs that you built and everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, out of this 325 million people, how many would actually do this, you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: And today's society, I don't know if that's even worth debating, because [SPEAKER_02]: the it kind of it's it terminates the thought experiment right so let's also i mean if people don't agree to it then i never happens and there's no point in having any of the conversation but i think the um i think the better way to think about it is just let's say it's it's happening okay but but it here's the other side of that we're already voting pretty much 50-50 in this country
[SPEAKER_03]: down the line if as far as if you look at uh... you know the overall national vote and everybody says hey we're fifty fifty everybody's divided and all that other shits i genuinely think at this point you would get pretty close to the fifty fifty uh... yeah let's say that yeah let's just say all that true [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I genuinely think it would.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now for the right side of the country, I think Trump and Hexith and Rubio and Vance and all those guys would stay, I think a majority of Republicans think that they're doing a pretty goddamn good job and we're happy with everything that's going on. [SPEAKER_03]: Who would they elect on the left? [SPEAKER_03]: Who would be their president? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but you've got a, like there's a lot of stuff that you have to discuss before you get into elected government, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's two, like why I, you could break this up into a bunch of points. [SPEAKER_02]: But the first and most obvious point is, how do you divide the assets, debt and the military? [SPEAKER_02]: Now, on the final question, the military, they are citizens with agency, and about 65% of enlisted folk are Republican, give or take, I mean, they, the public reporting on that is less, but it's about 65% for officers, it's 75%.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just say 70% of the military is going to one side. [SPEAKER_02]: And let me be really clear about this. [SPEAKER_02]: The 30% of the military that's not Republican are in support roles for the most part. [SPEAKER_02]: Intelligence and logistics and shit like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Gunfighters are almost like I would say 85-90% Republican.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and again, if you're doing this, and it's a choice, then the people in the military get the choice too, which means 70% of the military is going to the right, are going to the conservative states, whatever they happen to be. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the first one. [SPEAKER_02]: Then you get into the problem of dividing assets and liabilities, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, we've got X amount of currency, we've got this, and that, and this, and then we've got, you know, fucking trillions of dollars in debt as well. [SPEAKER_02]: and who gets that, like how do you divide that up? [SPEAKER_02]: This is kind of the debate that happened during the articles of Confederation or after the articles of Confederation during the constitutional process.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that was required is that the north, I'm sorry that the southern states would have to take on the war debt. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry that the federal government would have to take on the war debt of all the states, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: That was part of the agreement. [SPEAKER_02]: So, this is kind of that in reverse, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is, but if you, let's take the national debt.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you divide it in half and sit, hey, whatever the national debt is, what is it? [SPEAKER_03]: 40 trillion or 36 trillion right now? [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's 38.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, 38. [SPEAKER_03]: So you divide that and you say, all right, each of us is taking 19 and we'll see if we can balance it, balance a budget or find other countries to float the dead, whatever it's going to be, you got that military military, military I understand, but for the most part, the left once, less police, no wars, no nothing. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know if they would want the military.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not, but I mean then, so there's three critical things, one is our GDP, right? [SPEAKER_02]: The idea that you could just split it down the middle means that you would have to force some people in labor to go one way or the other. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way to split GDP like that, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like you would have to convince for a large chunk of our GDP comes from businesses owned by tech billionaires, a very large portion.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say 20 percent of our GDP probably comes from tech and AI and shit like that. [SPEAKER_02]: And all the tech, I mean, not all, but most of the tech and AI people that are big players [SPEAKER_02]: simply because of political advantage, but they're all going to lean to the right because the right is the one that does defense and defenses where all the money is. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_02]: Anthropic and fucking although Anthropics kind of been booted by.
[SPEAKER_02]: the Department of War, but it's still doing stuff like that, and then ex-AI has an article that released yesterday where they were fucking responsible for like 2,000 different targets being hit in Iran, using ex-AI and then Andrew Palmer, Lucky's Company, with all their fucking hardware and drones and shit like that. [SPEAKER_02]: All those dudes, again, these are private companies that contribute to the bulk or the whole of our national GDP, but they're still citizens.
[SPEAKER_02]: They get to choose which direction they're going to go, and none of them are going to the left. [SPEAKER_02]: Not one of them, because there's no fucking money over there. [SPEAKER_02]: Right? [SPEAKER_02]: So, you're talking about division of assets in a way that either it has to be authoritarian or you have to accept what people do. [SPEAKER_02]: And if you accept what people do, 80% of these people are going to the right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and by the way, this is what I love about this debate is, yes, you would have to accept what people do, and right now, everybody doesn't really accept what people do, and they look at it and let's take Elon Musk here with the trillionaire thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody should be a trillionaire every single Democrat released a post the day that the SpaceX IPO launched that said nobody's to be a trillionaire This is bullshit a lizard with Warren AOC every single top Democrat said there should never be a trillionaire cool If there shouldn't be one then you shouldn't have a problem living without one, right now without their tax revenue [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, you look at Mombani and everything should be free and health care and all the other stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: We need immigrants and sanctuary states and cities. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great. [SPEAKER_03]: You have all that over there. [SPEAKER_03]: You just got to figure out how to budget it, how to balance it, and make it work. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: The other big part is energy, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Let's forget about the obvious.
[SPEAKER_02]: lack of manpower expertise, engineering infrastructure, et cetera, that the left would have. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, their general policy on this, their general energy policy is retarded anti-fossil fuel. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no fucking way, right? [SPEAKER_02]: They would never be able to fucking even compete in that. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's part of it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the most obvious part.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the second tier of that is because the left wouldn't be able to produce energy and the way that they need to, these days, to do any of the stuff that they're trying to do that any country's trying to do, they would have to buy energy from us. [SPEAKER_02]: And these are the conditions. [SPEAKER_02]: that set the stage for the American Civil War, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what set it up, the textile capabilities and free labor that the south was getting that the north wasn't was creating a massive economic disparity and giving the south the idea that we don't have to listen to the federal government anymore, right? [SPEAKER_02]: So, what's that MOU going to look like between the right and left states? [SPEAKER_02]: Where the right who produces all the energy and doesn't want to deal with the left is just going to bend them over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Frankly. [SPEAKER_03]: But if you didn't want to trade with them and you said, all right, guys, come up with your own energy. [SPEAKER_03]: Figure it out on your own. [SPEAKER_03]: Figure it out on our own. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I mean, like most people on the left. [SPEAKER_03]: would say, you know, climate change is real and I want to go to EVs and I want to do all this other shit, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think it would be good for them, though, to end the end, right? [SPEAKER_02]: The left would be forced to grow up and stop believing stupid shit. [SPEAKER_03]: It's promising. [SPEAKER_03]: This is why I think this experiment would be so interesting because if it's if it's only 10 years You can see how fast a country can truly change in 10 years blue. [SPEAKER_03]: What were you going to say?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I have a friend who works That's like a contractor for SpaceX and he's told me about like his experience there and he says that most of the engineers there are actually actually pretty liberal [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, so I'm wondering, I mean, I guess I could just go to the right, just following Elon Musk, but if they decided to stand the left because they're liberal, you know, what effect do you think that would have?
[SPEAKER_01]: We would just get different engines get their own kind of thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I mean the look, there are all the engineers that work at SpaceX worked at somewhere else before and nobody has done what SpaceX has done. [SPEAKER_02]: It's about culture, climate, leadership, you know, and ideas, and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_02]: And Elon is the guy that drives them. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's just how it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think the energy part is the one that's really interesting to me though, because you're gonna, like, engineers are pretty split. [SPEAKER_02]: Politically speaking, nuclear engineers, I think lean a little bit right, but it's like 55 or 53%. [SPEAKER_02]: I looked it up a minute ago, but I think it's barely over it. [SPEAKER_02]: So that one would be fine, but the left states would have to commit to actual nuclear energy. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the problem, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: like they would actually have to do it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the only way that they would be able to keep up because they won't do fossil fuels and they not only will they not, but the roughnecks who fucking man that stuff, they're all Republicans or felons who can't vote. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_02]: That's the bucket. [SPEAKER_02]: It's all Republicans and Uncle Laser out there and Jack Mandaville. [SPEAKER_02]: those are the people working those oil rigs.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and the refineries. [SPEAKER_02]: So, it's like, I don't know how you get to energy production. [SPEAKER_02]: So, you would have to have some kind of MOU. [SPEAKER_02]: And, for example, like Texas produces 5.7 million barrels a day, then New Mexico and the Permian Basin, North Dakota and Gulf Shore production. [SPEAKER_02]: This is all, uh, [SPEAKER_02]: The section of New Mexico, Permian Basin, that produces oil, is pretty Republican as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then all the natural gas comes from Texas and Appalachia, from Southern Pennsylvania down through West Virginia and all the way down to Louisiana, there's pockets, right? [SPEAKER_02]: It's a matter of fact, the biggest one we've ever found was in Texas earlier this year. [SPEAKER_02]: We haven't even tapped it yet. [SPEAKER_02]: So the workforce and expertise for extracting all that stuff, 70% of it comes from red states.
[SPEAKER_02]: Solar's big and blue states, but solar is not primetime. [SPEAKER_02]: You can't do that. [SPEAKER_02]: When does a joke? [SPEAKER_02]: When does net negative, I believe, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it net negative because of the equipment costs and everything? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's not as good as solar in terms of efficiency, but it's not a net negative.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you include the amount of oil required to build the thing and maintain it, that it becomes a net negative. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that could be true. [SPEAKER_02]: Either way, it's not like you can't, there's no version of wind farms that can sustain a country, right? [SPEAKER_02]: So, this, yeah, in this hypothetical split scenario, Red America would inherit and not just inherit, but rapidly expand fossil fuels, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like there would be no more red tape.
[SPEAKER_02]: as it were and we would go full retarded. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, Trump's done that just in the last six months, we've become the nation, the globes, largest exporter and producer of fossil fuels. [SPEAKER_02]: So... [SPEAKER_02]: Blue America would become a net importer, which means they have to make revenue somewhere to be able to afford energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also have to basically pay whatever we want for it or they have to go somewhere else, the Middle East or another country. [SPEAKER_02]: And then things get kind of complicated, right? [SPEAKER_02]: There's two like partial parallels with the American Civil War. [SPEAKER_02]: One, the South exported, they started to export their key commodity, which was cotton, to the industrialized north, who processed it, right? [SPEAKER_02]: They consumed in process.
[SPEAKER_02]: They [SPEAKER_02]: made clothes, whatever the fuck. [SPEAKER_02]: And then economic specialization created some mutual reliance, but it also obviously created political friction because of tariffs, trade terms, and all sorts of other stuff in the south started sending their stuff to other countries. [SPEAKER_02]: The north didn't like that very much because it dipped into their supply, which made their Costco up.
[SPEAKER_02]: One side held a... [SPEAKER_02]: critical resource advantage and I think that would be really interesting to see. [SPEAKER_02]: Despite all the like I know the like the original purpose of this thought experiment is probably just like if you implemented everybody's political theory which one would work better but there's there's so much more practical stuff that would make it impossible for left-leaning states
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think they would believe that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they would not, no, and again, that's what makes this so interesting and while I got down this rabbit hole, they last night was when you really start to think about it, because I didn't want to do a civil war.
[SPEAKER_03]: like I don't believe in that and you know we're America and I don't want to go through that shit again however if you're just going off of political ideology which everybody seems to be fucking staunch right or staunch left right now I rarely meet people in the middle [SPEAKER_03]: what actually would happen. [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing I was thinking about last night is race. [SPEAKER_03]: What would happen with the races?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who would go to the right, who would go to the left? [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know the last numbers were like 75% black. [SPEAKER_03]: But do you believe in, you know, all these, this voter fraud and all this shit that we have?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you actually believe what's going on and it would be like a fucking Mr. [SPEAKER_03]: Beast game to see who would actually go to the right and go to the left and say, all right, this gives me the best chance it's success, the best chance it's surviving. [SPEAKER_03]: If you choose off of that, or do you choose off of, hey man, there's one or two issues that I disagree on, and I'm gonna stay on this side.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think people would follow the money for the most part, but this is what, this is again why I bring up all the infrastructure stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: So tech engineers, like AI engineers and stuff like that, would they are probably in the low 70s Democrat, right? [SPEAKER_02]: But are they going to choose to follow the Democrats who are in tech over to the left states, the blue states, and work for a shitty or company that doesn't have the energy resources to expand?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or are they going to the right? [SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to abandon their political ideology and go where their money is? [SPEAKER_02]: Because that used to be before all of this political like hyper-partisan ship. [SPEAKER_02]: that people voted with their wallet more than anything else. [SPEAKER_02]: That was the number one predictor of how people would vote in any given political campaign.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where that's why what did Reagan and 84 for reelection he won like, I think Mondale won his own state maybe, and that was it. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a landslide. [SPEAKER_02]: It was the worst landslide in presidential history. [SPEAKER_02]: What was it like, it was 400 in something fucking electoral votes? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember what it was. [SPEAKER_02]: Is there a number on there? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he won, well, it was, no, it was 518, I guess, because he was Chris or not 518, maybe 2525. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was doing, I was doing Senate two. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 525. [SPEAKER_02]: So Minnesota, the only holdout in DC, Minnesota. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, my Dale, oh, yeah, DC as well, sorry, forget about that one. [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good example of how somebody listens to a shit economic policy and they're like, now we're doing that, right, everybody voted for Reagan.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that, to some degree, is a function of Reagan being a Hollywood Republican, right? [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, everybody talks about how he used the best Republican of all time. [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to believe when he tripled the fucking national debt before that was a real thing on the right, and band machine guns, and bandists, and saying to silence, and all this other stupid shit he did.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the question is, back to it, there have been instances in the past where people abandon high-per-partitant ship for practicality, 84 was one of them, I think in this scenario, people would have to. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, no matter how hard-line a Democrat you are, an engineer type brain is not going to look at the fucking landscape and say, oh, I'm going to go take a job with no stock options.
[SPEAKER_02]: for $80,000 a year versus my $150,000 a year with my stock that in 10 years when this company goes public will be worth $1,000,000 plus, right? [SPEAKER_02]: That would be dumb. [SPEAKER_02]: That's a dumb decision to make. [SPEAKER_02]: But then even just like forget about the individual and back up to the entire landscape.
[SPEAKER_02]: A smarter move, like if people, if the leadership, the tech ownership at the top were smart about it, what they would do is become oligarchs immediately over both of these things. [SPEAKER_02]: Because tech is the largest expanding industry and then you can have energy on the other side, you can have energy on the red side and tech on the blue side and have oligarchs on both side who both basically run both of those countries because those are the dominant fields.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know I don't I don't think it would be sourals. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be like Who are some of the younger guys? [SPEAKER_02]: His son his son. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, he's not he wouldn't be involved any of that All the younger tech guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess Zuckerberg might be in the blue side To some degree He might be on that on that blue side, but androle super Republican andthropic super Republican [SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe not anymore, after the Department of War kicked them out, they may have changed. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think, you know, it's hard to say, I feel like a lot of these companies will just like take the form of whatever the government is, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't really know what they're actual. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they want those contracts, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but even at the inauguration day and that you and I were at, every single fucking tech giant was there who's hated Trump for years. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we're maybe they've hated him or maybe they were just talking shit for street cred, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny that the eronic part about this whole conversation is this is exactly how the United States works right now or how it should. [SPEAKER_02]: We are a confederation of states that each is supposed to provide something, not unlike the districts in fucking Hunger Games.
[SPEAKER_02]: not where you can extract something from us and we don't get anything in return, but where everybody is doing their best to produce the best possible quality of whatever they're really good at, and that's supposed to, you know, in a Keynesian way, benefit the nation. [SPEAKER_02]: Anti-fucking John Nash communist equilibrium theory bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: the real beyond all that because that's the way it should work out economically the military thing is very problematic for the left i mean very problematic because they would have no military they would have to go full tech on their military and just have drones and shit [SPEAKER_01]: This question makes me think of like the Cold War, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and, but I'll say this, like let's say it was Gavin Newsom on that side, no go back to tech and energy, let's say he was, it was him and Trump, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And they just happened to be the two presidents of these two new countries.
[SPEAKER_03]: At a certain point, wouldn't you source out, again, because you love immigration, you believe in its sanctuary states, everything else, source out and find these tech guys and other countries and then bring them over to the left side to compete with whoever decided to be on the right. [SPEAKER_03]: If HB1 visas weren't a thing and you could just come into the country, you could do that overnight and solve your problems if things started to go haywire.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, and then they would be run by the Chinese government with inside of 10 years entirely. [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, that's exactly what I believe as well, but I don't think they believe that. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think in that scenario where it's like life or death, people are voting for Gavin Newsom. [SPEAKER_03]: Who would come out of that side, you think? [SPEAKER_02]: I know that if there was no competition from Republican.
[SPEAKER_02]: The same guy that's going to come out in 28 is Rama manual, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's still, he's got like a lot of credibility, historically speaking. [SPEAKER_02]: His association with Obama is a little bit of a problem, but not something he can't overcome. [SPEAKER_02]: And he's a serious anti-fucking woke anti-stupid border policy guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's probably other than Shapiro, and I think to be honest, I kind of over the last year I've, it seems like Shapiro's kind of weak to be honest, so I don't think. [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's losing a lot of respect for not just walking out there, throw it as nuts on the table and saying, you know what, I'm Jewish, I don't give a fuck what you think.
[SPEAKER_01]: There'd be so much attack ads again, there's not even murderers like who Josh Josh superior hit there's like murder accusations against me and that's never stopped anybody Yeah, I know but it would be yeah pretty crazy ammo.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean that would be I would respect him more if I found out he murdered somebody [SPEAKER_02]: Roman manual is a really smart guy and he is just like an old school Democrat that's it even when he was he was the last mayor of Chicago that wasn't a complete fucking embezzle he was the only one that took on the teacher's unions and told him to go fuck themselves all of my like all of my friends who worked in labor back in the day didn't like him
[SPEAKER_02]: But they would be forced to support him now, you know, to be because the support is Democrats, which is really funny. [SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the, if he does end up running in 28, I'm probably going to have to go back and look at their old tweets and send them to him and private DMs. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I'm not going to publicly ridicule him, but like, hey, remember this. [SPEAKER_02]: Remember this? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: You're full of shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, yeah, I think if you have to consider the psychology of people, you're about to go into a new situation that's going to be kind of fucked up, you don't know how it's going to go. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not putting Gavin Newsom in charge of that. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not putting hairdo in charge of that, right? [SPEAKER_02]: You get fucking William the Bruce, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: You get a guy that fucking cuts people's heads off and that's who you're putting charge. [SPEAKER_02]: That's, I mean, historically speaking, when there's some kind of extreme change of revolutionary revolutionary activity, it's a fucking butcher that you put in charge, not a fucking homosexual.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but as far as labor is concerned, if, you know, since most believe in open borders and sanctuary cities and stuff, you could bring up all that labor from Mexico immediately and start at least making crops and food and live, oh, yeah, and the Democrats could create slavery again, which they 100% would absolutely would. [SPEAKER_02]: They would call it something new, but that's what it would be.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would have a model similar to [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Kuwait and Katar and Bahrain and UAE, which is like Indochinese slave labor basically, but they like you come over there on a contract and they take your passport and you you have a six month contract we're like, well, we need you to stay a little longer, so here's the paperwork going and recign it and you can't leave because they have a passport that should happen to all the time there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what would happen here because it's the only way like when you can't produce energy, the only way to overcome that is with cheap labor. [SPEAKER_02]: That's it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yep. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think they would be able to do that over nights very, very quickly into your point. [SPEAKER_03]: They would have to call it something else other than slavery, but that's exactly what it would be. [SPEAKER_03]: I think a... Blavory. [SPEAKER_02]: Blavory.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have blavory. [SPEAKER_02]: This is blavory. [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea. [SPEAKER_02]: But they would absolutely have to recreate some kind of indentured servitude. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, because what all all the Starbucks baristas going to go work in the fucking oil fields. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, come on, man, they've got somebody's got to make coffee for them every day. [SPEAKER_03]: They've got to make coffee for the workers every day.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, um, but another interesting part of this to me is, uh, as far as, like, race and snap benefits and all that other stuff are concerns, um, if you just went out and said, all right, we don't believe in any of this shit. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get smaller government, like Republicans, [SPEAKER_03]: always talk about, but kind of never end up doing except for Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: Would it? [SPEAKER_03]: Black people go to the left or the rights.
[SPEAKER_03]: Asians, would they go to the left or the rights? [SPEAKER_03]: Asians go to the right. [SPEAKER_01]: You think to have a research study here with the different like leaning races? [SPEAKER_01]: Now obviously it would probably change if this happened in real life. [SPEAKER_01]: But sure. [SPEAKER_01]: White voters in 2023, 56% were Republican, 41% were here.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do that split male versus female though because white women are like 70% Democrat and white men are 70% Republican I think shit. [SPEAKER_03]: I never even thought about that because you need women You got to reproduce.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but we I mean, you know, we can import women from Europe To be honest, I don't want liberal women having children I don't think they should be allowed [SPEAKER_03]: So you're talking about bringing over everybody in those rape countries that we discussed yesterday on fake news.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you go to South Africa and pretty much every country in Europe and you find women like this poor French lady that was under arrest and say hey, you're welcome to come here, but you owe us two kids. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but I don't want that here, but yeah, no, no, and I don't think liberal men should be having children either because children don't need two mothers. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you're already on two sides, you don't have to worry about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, the liberal men definitely won't come over to the right side because we're just going to call them Faggot's the whole time. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, blue, blue. [SPEAKER_03]: What are those stats? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I don't have so I have the race stats and the the gender stats separate But I don't have them like put together, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So his Hispanic voters are 61% blue 35% red [SPEAKER_01]: Black voters are 83% blue 12% red Asian voters are 63% blue 35% red 36% of white women are Republican Okay, and 65% of white men are Republican [SPEAKER_02]: So 70, or 65% Republican men, 65% Democratic women, basically. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: So the left side would have a problem getting workers that could solve it by doing immigrants. [SPEAKER_03]: But Democratic women don't want to have kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but we could also import like you said from from other countries women and saying, hey, you can come over here We need you to have two kids a piece and get married and all that other stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that you make it a lawn or nothing You just kind of let nature take its course.
[SPEAKER_02]: You bring a bunch of fucking Women and from Europe who've never met a man before because there are no men in Europe you introduce them to man and they're like oh shit this guy is he's
[SPEAKER_02]: got a fashile tissue on his body bullshit he's he's he can lift me over his head uh... you'll have those babies that's pretty much how it works i mean look at how europe is responding to the united states during the world cup right now yes and by the way this is what brought up this whole debate and again somebody posted this said for people who don't love america
[SPEAKER_03]: go get the fuck out and if we divide the country in a two you guys go to the left we'll go to the right and then we'll see what happens with these countries i personally think the right side of the country would flourish like never before if you've got the same shared beliefs is everybody um... [SPEAKER_03]: wouldn't it just be a fucking constant party and everybody trying to help each other out?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we'll find something to fight about, but the bigger issue with that is, um, um, creators versus takers, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Makers versus takers. [SPEAKER_02]: This is the the takers side of this argument is almost entirely on the left. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, people that, not just people that are on welfare, but people who want to give welfare, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So how do you carry that ideology onto the side of the country that isn't producing the same kind of wealth that it was before? [SPEAKER_02]: You want to mean, like you just, you kind of have to go authoritarian, you have to start seeing people's money, and then [SPEAKER_02]: like this is this is I think you've got to like set the terms for the 10-year period before the 10-year period starts. [SPEAKER_02]: So everybody gets to make a rational decision.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you say you tell the tech people that would have gone to the left we're taking 80% of your money 90% like we did during World War II, right? [SPEAKER_02]: If you make over I think at the time it was 50,000 [SPEAKER_02]: But in World War II, the top marginal tax bracket was 90%. [SPEAKER_02]: So if you were like a billionaire, a millionaire, back then, 90% of your money was going to the government, you have to tell them that out front.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's what's gonna happen. [SPEAKER_02]: So what choice are you gonna make now? [SPEAKER_02]: There will be 12 people, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And in the left, and it would be a bread line, all 12, maybe with one guy serving them bread.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do you honestly believe that or there's no way there's no way like there would be a bunch of crazy people like literally mentally insane people and then insane adjacent like all the blue-haired women and the pussy dudes who have low tea would go over there but anybody that had any ability to actually create something to make themselves better. [SPEAKER_02]: or make the country they're in better would never go for that. [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody would sign up for 90% taxation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it would have to be, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Because all the welfare people vote Democrat. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's in all the socialists. [SPEAKER_03]: And we've talked about this for the last few weeks. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of them getting elected across the country right now. [SPEAKER_03]: How fast do you think you would turn socialism? [SPEAKER_03]: Because again, this is a tenure experiment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know, I mean, out of the, so New York Times did a, an analysis of this and congressional districts, 100 congressional districts with the highest percentage of welfare recipients, 73 of them were Democratic cities. [SPEAKER_02]: 73%, so 70, let's just call it 70%, 70% of the people on welfare are going to the democratic side versus 30% on the right, how do you manage that?
[SPEAKER_02]: The only way to manage that is to trick people into coming to your state or your country. [SPEAKER_02]: right? [SPEAKER_02]: And then taking all their money away and giving it to fucking poor people or just letting them starve. [SPEAKER_02]: We're seeing exactly what it looks like in New York and California right now, right? [SPEAKER_02]: The call goes out from the government, a test balloon, hey, we're going to fucking do a billion air tax. [SPEAKER_02]: What happens?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they fucking leave and immediately, they all leave a trillion dollars worth of tax revenue gets wiped out from California, the largest state in the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: The left, not just, not only would they slide into an authoritarian communism style, government really fast, but the people who were there would be lined up, [SPEAKER_02]: like they were in West Berlin on the wall or in East Berlin on the wall trying to get through and get the fuck out of there immediately, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like that place would crumble immediately. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it would take 10 years, I think, within a year.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's only if they lied up front about what they were going to do and then try to change and take more people's money afterwards. [SPEAKER_02]: If you just told people, if you gave them, [SPEAKER_02]: the information, 70% of people who are on welfare coming to our country, and we have to take care of them, and we don't have the ability to produce energy like the other side does, so we have to buy it from them somehow, right? [SPEAKER_02]: What happens?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they make people on welfare start to work? [SPEAKER_02]: do, does the left become Republican, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_03]: And again, this, this is what makes this so interesting because let's say you did a financial reset in California and you said, all right, the houses aren't going to be fucking $3 million a piece, you're not going to have, you know, property taxes out the ass and all this other shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a lot of people, at least in Texas, that, you know, you and I, both lived around for a very long time, who moved there simply because it was unaffordable and everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody says the same thing, man. [SPEAKER_03]: It's beautiful. [SPEAKER_03]: It loved waking up every day, it's 74 in sunny and it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you reset the housing markets, I think that, [SPEAKER_03]: would change a lot of people's mind and at least give them a shot to say, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to do this for 10 years. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go back there for 10 years and see if my ideas and my beliefs and my policies really fucking work and we could flourish and then after the 10 years, you can go back and see what worked and what didn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now one thing I would like to keep as a whole overall. [SPEAKER_03]: is internet for all. [SPEAKER_03]: So that way you could see what's going on on each side. [SPEAKER_03]: I think one of the disadvantages in this Iran war that we went through was everything was out. [SPEAKER_03]: There was a black out. [SPEAKER_03]: We couldn't really see what was going on there. [SPEAKER_03]: So we didn't really know.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was videos that popped up occasionally with I got internet for 48 hours and you're like, oh shit, there's millions of people in the street that are trying for a revolution. [SPEAKER_03]: They just couldn't accomplish it at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think if you got to see, let's take a Spencer Pratt, what he's doing, going down and to Skid Row and to those gang communities and video taping everything and then putting it out on the internet, that would have a big impact on what is going on and then whether or not you actually want to change your country. [SPEAKER_03]: And by country, I'm saying the left side of the country or the right side of the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, you and I always lean fucking conservative and pretty much Republican, do you see any downsides to living on the right side of the country? [SPEAKER_03]: Um, no, I don't either versus the left. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't either. [SPEAKER_03]: No, not at all. [SPEAKER_02]: School is like because communities, everything would be would be totally the right, the right wing or the ones driving decriminalization of psychedelics right now, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: that that's where we are so no I don't think I just no I think I think there would be some temptation from the right leaning people to create a theocracy but there's a religion wise yeah but there's enough resistance to shut that shit down that wouldn't fly [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I'm trying to think of what else could potentially be there, you know, let's say these tech billionaires that moved out of California and you drop that bullshit to begin with, would they go back?
[SPEAKER_03]: not sure. [SPEAKER_03]: They do seem to change for every administration, whoever's in there, they'll kiss their ass and then kind of move on there. [SPEAKER_03]: But I wonder what like a Jeff Bezos would do with Amazon. [SPEAKER_03]: What's the split on Amazon? [SPEAKER_03]: Would he look at simply the numbers and be like Republicans by more shit? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that it's true that Republicans by more shit. [SPEAKER_02]: But is it not?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Amazon would probably live in the state that gave them the best deal and then sell to the other state as well. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I would do. [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't Amazon, I remember that there was a big fight about where they were going to place their central distribution facility or something like that. [SPEAKER_02]: There was supposed to be in, well, one of them was supposed to be in New York. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And then AOC shut that down.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a 30 billion dollar project. [SPEAKER_01]: They actually did open it up in New York. [SPEAKER_02]: But not in her district. [SPEAKER_02]: They went somewhere else. [SPEAKER_02]: They went to a public industry. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I believe. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's not good for them. [SPEAKER_03]: and then let's say let's take the culture aspect of it. [SPEAKER_03]: Would sports exist on the left side? [SPEAKER_02]: Soccer maybe?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, I would say most, the majority of black people are fucking Democrats, right? [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know if that's true for athletes the same way it is for the broader public, but the NBA and NFL would be fine. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they wouldn't have any quarterbacks with, yeah, it's be real. [SPEAKER_02]: Or offensive linemen, or defensive linemen, it's really, well, they would have black defensive linemen, not white ones.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where does my homes go? [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's the question. [SPEAKER_03]: My homes is a repube. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I think too. [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, because you know, you wonder, you know, Republican, it's like NFL and all that stuff is such a sports thing. [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if Gidel would move, because he seems pretty fucking left. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he has a turd. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at the other social aspects of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you look at, [SPEAKER_03]: Musicians musicians would all go there. [SPEAKER_03]: I guess, but let's face it. [SPEAKER_03]: There's not many new ones So which you really be missing that much, and you could it could probably be leaked through the internet somehow Pirate radio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah Arts You know nobody's really talking about fucking painters these day for Christ's X Blue quote of my missing here [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I mean, my mind just keeps going back to like the USSR and like China, you know, so they have, you know, militaries and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, I don't know that. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like liberals here are different than people like calm, like military militarized communist, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like over there. [SPEAKER_01]: I do too. [SPEAKER_01]: So would you have a military over there? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that.
[SPEAKER_03]: you would you have to right I mean like they have to do something I mean it would be a super low tea military wouldn't it yeah the boy scouts could be them and then police what do you do about police every one of these left cities you know once less police and defund the police and all that other shit could you imagine living in a country without police
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it would all go to shit extremely quickly on the left side because if you have a country started by nothing but pacifist, then the most predatory person is going to rise to the top. [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: It would like, so it would sort of self out in a way. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It would turn into a dictatorship and record time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like the reason I ask is you see these cities like a Seattle or San Francisco or Los Angeles where It's essentially just been abandoned at this point. [SPEAKER_03]: Like it exists, but the parts of Los Angeles that they show you on television aren't the full scope of what the city really is. [SPEAKER_03]: Same with Atlanta by the way. [SPEAKER_03]: Where I look at Atlanta, the problems on, let's take the right side of the country with Atlanta and places like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you were to put Republican policies in the city, you could turn those cities around overnight. [SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, I physically watched it happen in New York City. [SPEAKER_03]: This mom, Donnie shit would end immediately in New York City. [SPEAKER_03]: You'd be going. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that shit has a way of working in self-out, doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, [SPEAKER_02]: There's, uh, you see this very often, anybody that's been in the military actually saw it in basic training, right? [SPEAKER_02]: So, when you start out, everybody's kind of equal, and then a couple of weeks in, um, the drill sergeants will name platoon guides, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Platoon guide is like the fucking, you're in charge of everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then you've got to nominate a couple of people you think are good to put in charge and create squads and make sure that just because it's a paramilitary organization and that's how commanding works right you go is from bottom to top and then top down to bottom and there's organization to it. [SPEAKER_02]: and it starts out almost exclusively. [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody that's been in basic training no matter which one could probably talk about this too, knows this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It starts out with whoever has the best PT score typically. [SPEAKER_02]: That's how they choose the person. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the person to and guy, right? [SPEAKER_02]: You're the biggest strongest fastest so you get to be the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: That typically lasts [SPEAKER_02]: a week right and when they until they find out that guy's a fucking moron and can't lead anybody and that's not always true. [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it's the same guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes one person will be the same guy all the way through. [SPEAKER_02]: But what you'll find is there is a there's a herd mentality to it right and different characteristics are good for different things. [SPEAKER_02]: So at the outset big and strong makes sense and then you start to select for people that are actually good at doing the thing that you need [SPEAKER_02]: and being well-respected as a leader.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all of these people who are weak leaders no matter where they are and the country no matter what position they're in, that shit and a time of crisis seems like tends to change pretty quickly, right? [SPEAKER_02]: It tends to change pretty rapidly. [SPEAKER_02]: It also goes in the inverse.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you get [SPEAKER_02]: If you're status to somebody who's good at something, gets reinforced, you can survive even outside the norm in the political environment like FDR, for example. [SPEAKER_02]: FDR was for better or worse perceived as strong and competent, even though he was a cripple, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_02]: So, but he was the only president ever to serve more than two terms. [SPEAKER_02]: Up until that point, it was by choice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody had followed in Washington's lead, but FDR had done [SPEAKER_02]: what people perceived to be such a good job of navigating us through the depression and then through the early stages of the war that he just kept getting re-elected, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_02]: So that's a fucking interesting thing. [SPEAKER_02]: So it could be, whoa, it could go to a coups point if you go one of two ways. [SPEAKER_02]: The retards get exposed and replaced.
[SPEAKER_02]: or good leadership gets validated and it extends beyond its shelf life to some degree, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, FDR was not really with it the last little bit there, obviously. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't fuck us up too much because the military command we had in place with Eisenhower is the Supreme Alley Commander and some of these other guys did a very good job of handling that situation. [SPEAKER_02]: That's why Eisenhower ended up becoming president later on.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it could have gone really badly, right? [SPEAKER_02]: It could have gone like, what's his not- who's wife served as president of Woodrow Wilson's wife who just like became president for fucking six months for no reason. [SPEAKER_02]: And she was, he was bedridden and his wife controlled access to him and kind of ran the country completely unconstitutionally. [SPEAKER_02]: This is how the 25th Amendment became a thing at some point, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like any of that stuff can happen, the leadership dynamic would be very interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that might be the most interesting thing about it to see who rose and fell inside the leadership. [SPEAKER_03]: And why, yeah, I do too, and then after the 10 years is over, you kind of lower the wall or whatever it is, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And you say, hey, which side would your rather be on?
[SPEAKER_03]: How many people from the left do you think would come over to the right after 10 years? [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think the wall would last 10 years. [SPEAKER_02]: You think somebody would knock it down? [SPEAKER_02]: I think the left would be knocking the wall down, yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I was going to say that's another scenario that I was just thinking of.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a possibility that once we put everybody, all of the liberals in one state, then the more responsible and intelligent members of that group are going to start seeing the issues that their initial doctrine was causing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to start becoming more conservative and then you're going to end up with another split where the more liberal people, [SPEAKER_00]: are going to go into their own little communes and then the other people are just naturally going to become more conservative. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like what we have with, like, interstate migration, you know, it's like the same. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've kind of see it already in a mountainway, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that's the, that's the issue though, right? [SPEAKER_02]: So to what degree do they actually believe that the policy that's producing the better outcome is better, [SPEAKER_02]: versus just wanting to go benefit from the better outcome. [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's what we've seen in Texas. [SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it in Idaho.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it in Florida where fucking liberals move there and bring their fucking shit back pestilence with them. [SPEAKER_03]: But why? [SPEAKER_03]: You already left that place because it sucked and right now there's no repercussions for it And then you come to a new state whatever it is Texas Florida wherever and then you try to push these fucking ideas on everybody else But it was like hey, that's why your state sucked in the first place.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a difference between entitlement and gratitude Like they think they're entitled to their fucking beliefs no matter what the cost and somebody else can always pay the cost That's the socialist postmodernist mindset, right? [SPEAKER_03]: It is, and I think, like, let's take Florida as an example with Ron DeSantis. [SPEAKER_03]: He's done such a great job there, turning that entire state around in what eight years, how long has he been in office so far?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I know he's out. [SPEAKER_03]: I know he's out this seven and a half. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So let's let's call it eight years by the time he gets out. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's say this property tax thing passes, which I, I certainly think it will and or probably 99 to 1%. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be some fucking dummies who who vote for this. [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know how many fucking people are going to want to migrate to Florida?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't give a shit what your politics are. [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to look at that and be like, well, Florida is beautiful. [SPEAKER_03]: The weather's not bad. [SPEAKER_03]: The summers are fucking pretty brutal. [SPEAKER_03]: But I want to live near beaches. [SPEAKER_03]: I want to not have property taxes. [SPEAKER_03]: And I want to move to fucking Florida. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's almost the exact same thing. [SPEAKER_03]: if my prediction is correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's the exact same thing as if we split the country down into where you'd be on that side for a little bit and then you look at the other side and be like God damn man, everybody's doing well over there. [SPEAKER_02]: Why wouldn't I want to, I mean, my family there and raise my kids there? [SPEAKER_02]: I think Florida is doing it perfectly, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're looking at long-term residents of the state who have contributed to what's going on there and made like Florida's doing pretty well. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're saying, you know what, we're going to take some of the pressure off of you and make you even better.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then they look at people who might come from somewhere else and say yeah you can come here but initially you're going to pay and if you're coming here for vacation you're always going to pay and I think that's the perfect way to handle it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You prioritize the people that are there all the time that are making commitments that have been there for a long time and if contributed and in the second tier you prioritize people who are determined to come there to contribute at some point. [SPEAKER_02]: And then third, you give some consideration to people who just benefit from it, but not much, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you're only coming here to benefit from time to time from our economy, then you have to pay a little bit. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the way it is. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a vacation tax, right? [SPEAKER_02]: That's precisely the way that everybody should handle this. [SPEAKER_02]: Every state should do exactly what Ford is doing, and that would create... [SPEAKER_02]: a fucking wealth tax. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to create it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You create, well, like true wealth tax, you create through that kind of scenario where people, you create a great place and then you fucking say, hey, if you guys want to come here, you just got to pay a little bit extra because we don't want our people to have to pay for it. [SPEAKER_02]: And zero wealthy people are going to say no to that. [SPEAKER_02]: Not one wealthy person, whatever say no to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Florida is the number one ranked state for like people moving in so someone new moves to Florida every two minutes and nine seconds. [SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit. [SPEAKER_03]: I knew the numbers were massive. [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know what that's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think if I'm not mistaken in this, uh, Blue can look this up, but I think in this Florida property tax bill that they're trying to pass, you still have to pay for the first five or 10 years and then maybe it goes down after the first five or something. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember exactly what they're doing, but it was something like that and that makes perfect sense to me. [SPEAKER_02]: Make somebody show a commitment.
[SPEAKER_02]: before you start giving them the benefit. [SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking normal, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And if somebody is only benefiting, then they got to pay. [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair. [SPEAKER_02]: Because people that they can't afford property taxes, or that that money is going to be meaningful to them aren't buying a second home in Florida. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's just not that's how that works.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is precisely how you create a wealth tax. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no other fucking reason to do it any other way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and again, all of this started about a week ago, where all these people were coming in from other countries because, you know, we didn't have the world cup here for 30 something years, and that was before social media or anything else, so you had the games, you had the Olympics and everything else, but you didn't really get to hear from people, unless the stories were told to you by person or on air, something like that, on a major network, but now you're seeing it every single day and
[SPEAKER_03]: The majority of people that are here right now for all this shit are saying I don't get why the people here hate America so much and the media hates America so much like everybody's stunned by this yeah and it's our own doing like we allow these people to to be on these fucking networks and these fucking blue-haired assholes to kind of take a fucking cell phone video and
[SPEAKER_03]: show all their fucking bullshit and think that it's a good idea and then yeah the country needs to move towards that. [SPEAKER_03]: And this guy, I don't know who this guy was, you just got fed up with it and said all right, who would actually win this goddamn thing? [SPEAKER_03]: If we split this in half and you just got to choose on your politics and policies, who would win? [SPEAKER_03]: And it was a super interesting conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you guys have your own opinions, you know, this is going to be on YouTube and Spotify and all that other stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Go to YouTube comments. [SPEAKER_03]: Those are on Spotify still working out their issues with the hack and everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: Go to the YouTube comments. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm curious to hear your thoughts. [SPEAKER_03]: Military is the easiest one for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the, that's the number one with a bullet where it's like, yeah, you would have the strongest toughest dudes and we'd be able to protect ourselves. [SPEAKER_03]: Because the last part of this question would be, would somebody try to invade the left? [SPEAKER_03]: Would it, would it China, would it Russia, would, I mean, I'm dead serious. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, yeah, they would for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm laughing at the [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's 33, I look, they have a number, they say 90,000, there's 33,000, like serious members of the Canadian military, for that territory, right, for that, for 40 million people. [SPEAKER_02]: They're the size of the U.S. but they have the population of California and they have 33,000 legit people in their military and that's including all the support people.
[SPEAKER_02]: To be honest, two divisions, the 82nd Airborne Division and 1st Cav could take over Canada in a fucking week. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a man. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you be horrifying to see them all riding up on their mooses, you know, I think it's me. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's me, actually. [SPEAKER_01]: Me, sorry, excuse me. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, seriously, we could take over Canada and inside of a week. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they don't, they also don't have the defense infrastructure that we do. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I can't counter air and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_02]: They got some that we've given them, but we can knock that shit out. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, most of their population is, is, [SPEAKER_01]: literally south of our highest point on our border so it's like there's hyper concentrated like right at the border right next to us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I mean we could like honestly the 82nd airborne would jump into the north and first cab would push in with uh with strikers and and when Abrams from the south and then our respective uh we wouldn't even need fast movers. [SPEAKER_02]: Our helicopters could do most of [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even worse, right there, we wouldn't even have to set much up. [SPEAKER_03]: No, and why is nobody ever attempted it is because the U.S. is there and they know shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, the only reason Canada exists is because of because of us. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's no other reason for them to exist, to be honest. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, we have to have them there because they protect us. [SPEAKER_01]: They're like the board, the board between us and, you know, the penguins in the north. [SPEAKER_01]: So they keep our head warm. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like our, our, you know, guardians to the north.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't have to worry about. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I would fear the penguins more than the Canadians. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a demilitarized zone, maybe, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a demilitarized zone, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly, but food and all that other stuff, you know, all that would be a wash. You've got great food on both sides, but I think, God, if I'm being realistic about it, three years, three years until the left side crumbles.
[SPEAKER_03]: and it would be purely financial drugs, immigration, and just madness of crime, and all that other shit. [SPEAKER_03]: The same shit that we're actually seeing going on in those cities right now on the left side of the country would expand to that whole entire side. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think after three years, coupe, you're right. [SPEAKER_03]: They would start trying to find out a way to tear down the wall.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, obviously, we'd have the entire military on this side that probably couldn't. [SPEAKER_03]: I would cover the wall and shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's what I would do. [SPEAKER_02]: I would have the Republican side sewer system, just dump out onto the wall on the other side and just cover that wall on shit. [SPEAKER_03]: I think people would go full anti-do frame from the left after three years. [SPEAKER_03]: They might make them work for it. [SPEAKER_03]: That's my point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: But they wouldn't crawl through a hundred miles of shit to get to the other side. [SPEAKER_03]: Or whatever it was. [SPEAKER_03]: Five hundred miles. [SPEAKER_00]: They're willing to do that to live in San Francisco. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think that have much of an effect on them. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they just step over it mostly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and and and and once again this conversation all came from pride and People are just unbelievably stunned coming over here of like why were not more proud of the greatest country on earth and so am I I just can't figure it out because what is the alternative option if you split it into like this I just don't see how the left side [SPEAKER_03]: fucking succeeds or events or does anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess unless the tech guys stayed, or they took in people from other countries and all that of the shit, I just don't see how it would work. [SPEAKER_03]: As a government and people not getting killed or raped or robbed every single day. [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't see how that would work. [SPEAKER_03]: And you don't have no guns, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't you pass that law over there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Would they every state would pass a no gun law in that the second it got going right Luke look up [SPEAKER_02]: Well, hold on, let me think of a way to put this, have there, has there been, have there ever been free countries where, well, you're asking fucking liberal texts, I don't know if it's going to work. [SPEAKER_02]: But what happens when the government has a monopoly on guns and violence? [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, we know what happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I want to change my answer on this. [SPEAKER_03]: I think after three years, I think the cartels would end up taking over.
[SPEAKER_03]: because they've got the guns and they've got that way a life already i think it would just extend to the united states uh... and again because you want to open border policies and sanctuary cities it's a great and then they would come over here and take everything i in that scenario how long would it take for the cartels to take over the left side of the country twenty minutes maybe i don't know what what are they going to do throw a fucking Starbucks at their face or something
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Because everybody would want to enact, you know, no guns, no assault rifles, you know, nothing. [SPEAKER_03]: Which they've been trying to do and are still trying to do for years and years and years. [SPEAKER_03]: What would you protect yourself with? [SPEAKER_03]: Kitchen knives? [SPEAKER_02]: No, you got to get dulled. [SPEAKER_02]: Kitchen knives like Andrew Selbas said. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, England.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's super fascinating and uh...
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, me personally like you're starting to get to the point where you'd almost love to see that happen he's I don't even travel to certain places anymore I don't know about you, but like somebody was buddy mine was asking me he's like hey, what was the next time you're coming to LA and I go not Maybe the Rose Bowl or something for for a night You know these meetings I have out there getting shorter and shorter and shorter just because I don't want to be there
[SPEAKER_02]: like shit um i think me personally i would be perfectly happy with it yeah i don't know there's no reason to go uh at least i'm going to visit a person right uh i don't think i would go to California for any reason other than that [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or Seattle, or any of those other places, I don't think I would even go to visit a person up there. [SPEAKER_02]: There's like, I don't anybody that lives in Seattle, man, you know, you got a question, you got a question that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe outside of it, like, up like in Woodenville and snow machine shit like that, there's some cool stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Even on the other side of the bridge and Bellevue, it's not that, well, it used to not be that bad. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it still is or not, but yeah, [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, we'll post this on YouTube. [SPEAKER_03]: Leave your comments down below and let us know for missing anything here.
[SPEAKER_03]: That could potentially change the left side of the country or the right side of the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: That we would really need [SPEAKER_03]: from one another outside of these ideas if they truly believed in what they were saying in these debates or Gavin Newsman, all this other shit, let us know in the comments down below what we're truly missing in this argument and what would make one succeed, like for the left, what would make that succeed, leave that in the comments or for the right, what would
[SPEAKER_03]: has been such an enormous pride for America and there is no other country like it and I hate these fucking shit birds who try to nitpick every goddamn last thing about how awful we are in the media or it's our immediate, too, by the way. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying outsiders from other countries.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's our own fucking media and our own people and our own fucking leaders who are saying this shit on a daily fucking basis and [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just how to carry out, so you'd love to see what happens. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, as the point in the show, we get to the drinking bro of the week. [SPEAKER_03]: You can submit on drinkingbrows.com. [SPEAKER_03]: Merch Store is all stocked up. [SPEAKER_03]: I have rafed about these bathing suits.
[SPEAKER_03]: Brandon, you knocked it out of the park. [SPEAKER_03]: I got the ones with the liners in them. [SPEAKER_03]: The trunks is what they're called on there and then the board shorts to the ones without the liner on that side They're excellent for the summer. [SPEAKER_03]: Those beat shirts that are short sleeve are super super light and excellent for the summer No, they are not dress shirts. [SPEAKER_03]: They are fucking party shirts.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is something that Jared would black out [SPEAKER_03]: and accrues on things like that, and you can also get the Bro Box 4th of July's coming up that is a banger of a Bro Box, and you can also submit for Drinking Bro of the week on the app. [SPEAKER_03]: The app is free on iPhones and Android, and it gets emailed to us live on air. [SPEAKER_03]: Let me pull it up real quick and see who we got.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, this one just came in, drink a bro's submission from Adam Heggwer, Texas 7 years once the nominates, and Pauli, who is deceased, he says for a long time, my mom was my absolute drink and bro in every sense of the word. [SPEAKER_03]: There were several nights spent drinking until the sun came up, solving the world's problems. [SPEAKER_03]: She was also a huge supporter of all my crazy ideas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sadly, she passed away from Colin Cancer last year at Wade's New Year's. [SPEAKER_03]: To honor her, I have partnered with the Colin Cancer Coalition and will be competing in the world race. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the great world race in 2027. [SPEAKER_03]: Forgive me. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that is. [SPEAKER_03]: It's among one of the craziest things I could ever think to do that she would have rolled her eyes at, but then told me to go for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cheers to fellas, cheers to all the drinking bros out there fighting cancer or with loved ones fighting cancer. [SPEAKER_03]: Reach out to me on Facebook if you're going through it. [SPEAKER_03]: I think I remember seeing this guy's post. [SPEAKER_03]: Luke, can you look that up real quick and see what the great world race is in 2012? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I can tell you, the great world race is white people. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm going to select it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Happy Juneteenth, everybody. [SPEAKER_02]: What year again? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just see you know. [SPEAKER_02]: I am a Digger without a dude. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you are and we are recording this on Juneteenth. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and and a coupe and blue come on I will apologize that you to work on this sacred holiday. [SPEAKER_03]: I know you guys love it and my heritage is offended. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's been time with my family. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fucked up.
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