Episode 1635 - How Tech Is Changing Self-Defense

[SPEAKER_00]: Sit back relax, and have a bucket dress with you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, welcome to Drinking Bro's Kids. [SPEAKER_02]: God, voices were off today. [SPEAKER_02]: Voice a little rough today. [SPEAKER_02]: You and I were just talking about this before we went on air here, the allergies. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, brutal. [SPEAKER_02]: Last week of coaching in Austin, Texas, in the spring. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in the championship. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm back in the championship for what?

[SPEAKER_02]: I can't stop all what? [SPEAKER_02]: You can't stop me. [SPEAKER_02]: No, my children, my children. [SPEAKER_02]: I might be the greatest youth coach to ever step foot on a field. [SPEAKER_02]: So like, Amosolanzo's tag of youth coaching. [SPEAKER_02]: If I, if, because this is Friday's episode, that's coming out, you know, Sunday night on Spotify, but Friday on YouTube here, if I win tomorrow, that'll be 10 out of my last 12 championships. [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[SPEAKER_02]: And all different sports. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and this will be three back to last. [SPEAKER_02]: And three different completely sports. [SPEAKER_02]: So football basketball, [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Dan never compliments me like this, dude. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't even need to talk to him today. [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to talk to you. [SPEAKER_02]: But unfortunately, your buddies with Dan so Dan's got to introduce you. [SPEAKER_02]: It's everybody who he is, Dan.

[SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Good, good, good. [SPEAKER_01]: His name's Ryan Edwards. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a former infantry guy, former green beret, and now he's the president, I think. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Presidents of the right title. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a high-com armor. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a body armor I've been talking about recently. [SPEAKER_02]: There it is. [SPEAKER_02]: Phone's ringing. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dude. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a loudest thing I've ever heard. [SPEAKER_02]: Who's that? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was a listener in here. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was going to sing a production dude. [SPEAKER_02]: He got to put a five in the jar, brother. [SPEAKER_01]: This is a level 3 plate, and it feels like it's under 2 pounds, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's like 1.8 pounds. [SPEAKER_03]: 1.8 pounds.

[SPEAKER_01]: So for the level 4 sappies that I've worked combat, this is closer to that. [SPEAKER_01]: This is actually this exact same size. [SPEAKER_01]: This would have weighed 12 pounds for me. [SPEAKER_01]: This one, how much is this way? [SPEAKER_03]: Like 3.5, 3.6. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can give it to me. [SPEAKER_02]: There's some people say it's drugs. [SPEAKER_02]: This is between four and a half and five. [SPEAKER_02]: That's serious. [SPEAKER_02]: Am I right?

[SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like three point six, three point five. [SPEAKER_03]: Is it really? [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: This is thick though. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing's getting to this. [SPEAKER_02]: Well. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what, what, what, what, what are we going to hollow tips? [SPEAKER_03]: No, like arm repiracy rounds will go through that. [SPEAKER_03]: But the most common threats, that'll stop the green tip.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I made five, five miles still core. [SPEAKER_02]: That's still what, what made you want to start this company? [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't start the company. [SPEAKER_03]: I got recruited to lead it about six months ago. [SPEAKER_03]: Really? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Also with big defense for about nine years before this. [SPEAKER_03]: How was that?

[SPEAKER_02]: The rumors true, budgets are out of control and all that are the crazy shits. [SPEAKER_02]: I think my friend, every last thing you do. [SPEAKER_03]: My former colleagues are doing all right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're busy and the cash are checks. [SPEAKER_02]: Right now, you don't say. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't say we've got a couple things going around the world. [SPEAKER_02]: This is probably a good time for that. [SPEAKER_02]: It is.

[SPEAKER_03]: and is this local uh... so my factors in Columbus, Ohio, so american made congratulations and go bucks go bucks you know i had to say that obviously uh... why why why why why why oh yeah we are we just uh... started done yeah i was working remote in Ohio because that's where i grew up uh... lived all over the place for the army uh... but [SPEAKER_03]: back in Ohio and got recruited to these folks and seemed like a good thing to build in the hometown.

[SPEAKER_02]: How did you get started? [SPEAKER_03]: What was your background in the military? [SPEAKER_01]: You were working for some defense. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I was with the A systems for about nine years. [SPEAKER_03]: What do they make? [SPEAKER_03]: All kinds of stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: all the high end electronics on our, uh, like air crunching fighters, um, lasers, optics. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, man, you just gave me my keyword lasers.

[SPEAKER_02]: I watched a video last night of us potentially using lasers or Israel, like I couldn't tell from the video.

[SPEAKER_02]: My, my problem isn't everybody knows who watches this that, um, dumb one, two, and then I believe all videos and then it turns out [SPEAKER_03]: 60% of them now are AI that number could be high right is the laser shit real Some of it definitely is some of those high-powered lasers that you see in I think Israel is using You know, it takes so much energy you might have to have like a

[SPEAKER_02]: So am I truck now is it I'm gonna go back to what one of my favorite movies of all time real genius with Val Kilmer Yeah entire move classic yes, but the entire movie is about these kids who are geniuses and trying to get them to develop this laser system from space Yeah, they could fire down into targets right specifically military targets right and then the space laser low them off the base of the earth. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes How close to we do that?

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure about that one you fucking love [SPEAKER_03]: If I didn't know anything about it, I wouldn't be able to talk about it. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not good at it, you're not good at lying. [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I think we're there. [SPEAKER_02]: I think we have the technology. [SPEAKER_02]: I think as we've seen these conflicts go on around the world, we're learning more and more about how powerful our military is. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And in particular, our tech.

[SPEAKER_01]: We know what the A10 is, right? [SPEAKER_01]: The Wardog? [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hm. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a plain built around a big gun, basically. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Thing of beauty. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the laser, the... [SPEAKER_01]: Direct energy weapons, not the warm scan or the fucking pukeray ones, but the destructive laser weapons.

[SPEAKER_01]: We have, my guess is maybe we put one in space, but I think there's a better chance that a 6th or 7th gen fighter is built around that laser. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you're saying it would be attached to the plane or underneath the plane it would be the bot the plane would be it I mean, that's kind of like the the eight ten is built around those those that gun right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I think you can see Bob you can probably find some of them on Twitter these cylindrical lasers that have been tested by the military. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, for decades now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we definitely have stuff like that. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a matter of like [SPEAKER_01]: How much is it cost to make it? [SPEAKER_01]: When we're talking about ammo, now we're talking about stored energy and storing energy is always a problem.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That's why Tesla, if you get the backup, Tesla battery for the cyber truck, it's the two-thirds of the fucking bed. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Still, after all this time, it's still like that. [SPEAKER_01]: So we've got some pretty cool shit. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a matter of shrinking it down to a usable thing and it's like, how heavy is the aircraft, how far can it go now? [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows? [SPEAKER_01]: TVD on that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know that we have some stuff that is technically operational right now that has not been used yet. [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be shocked. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, I think this Iran thing is kind of wrapping them now, so I'm not sure what's going to happen with that. [SPEAKER_01]: But I wouldn't be shocked if over the next two years of Trump's term, you don't see hints of those type of weapons being used and discuss a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of it is as a deterrent to China, right? [SPEAKER_01]: But like, hey, we can show up in the middle of the night and steal your president out of bed and there's nothing you can do about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they did that, you know, with the Chinese delegates in town, um, and either they were funny clays in there or right down the streets. [SPEAKER_02]: Was it? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: They were too blocks away.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, tell. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the other thing that was used during that was, uh, the, what they called the pew claser. [SPEAKER_01]: Pukeray something like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Bob was it we named a show after it's the pukeme. [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was the yeah I think it was the puker pukeray, but I'll check. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, check just type in drink and rose puken and it'll be on there because the discombobulator is what Trump calls it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, either way, that's fine, but here's the reason why it's vomit being vomit. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you that's it, vomit being that's a waste. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's why I bring this up. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we use that with Maduro. [SPEAKER_02]: It was extremely effective. [SPEAKER_02]: And now the stories are coming out now, now it's. [SPEAKER_02]: But also, now the rest of the world knows that we have this, right? [SPEAKER_02]: We have this technology and these capabilities.

[SPEAKER_02]: The new one, that's, and I am, I'm in charge of screen shutting all the clips. [SPEAKER_02]: and the numbers and all the stuff and giving them to advertisers in the back end and other stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: So I see what does well and I see what people are interested in and maybe concerned about. [SPEAKER_02]: And one of the recent ones was the heart murmur. [SPEAKER_02]: That we just used. [SPEAKER_02]: The ghost murmurs with the public.

[SPEAKER_02]: And saying, hey, dude, we got, you know, a pilot based on his heartpeats. [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know if it was his individual heart beats or something that was attached to him. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: We were going through whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to ask you about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Frankly, I don't know anything about that. [SPEAKER_02]: I am sure you don't. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to tell you about that, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure does.

[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't it be great if somebody works in defense and knew about it? [SPEAKER_02]: It'd be awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: No, but with that, I wanted to ask both of you guys, is there a strategic time where you start to roll this out where you don't want to use too much [SPEAKER_03]: I think we're saying that now. [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're making a great point, you know, snatching Maduro in the middle of the night.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I think the Venezuelans were counting on his Cuban guards.

[SPEAKER_02]: Don't something all right, but but not only did they do nothing, but then they went back the ones because they lived So some of them lived and then they had these crazy fucking stores Yeah, that were you know, they they also went viral and they went online and they were just stuns Yeah by the sound that brought them to their knees Made their stomach feel uneasy they were bleeding out their eyes They're nose they're mouth and then they were thrown up everywhere and they had no idea where they were

[SPEAKER_02]: Discombobulators actually a great term from Trump if we're going to give Trump credit for using one word or just making up something that would be the one there. [SPEAKER_02]: But I didn't know we had that technology. [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about the Havana syndrome in the past on the show, but it was never. [SPEAKER_02]: used by us, it by somebody else, and we're able to use that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now with this ghost murmur thing that is out there, holy shit, if you're another nation and you hear that and you say, God damn, we don't have any of that technology and we're not even close to something like that, that would scare the shit out of me if I'm another country. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think so. [SPEAKER_03]: But it might go both ways, too. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, do we know anymore about what happened down the barxdale?

[SPEAKER_03]: Those drones over barxdale or four space a few weeks ago? [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: So there's something else, there's some weird stuff going on here that we don't really hear much about. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: And I've heard about that. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a normal dummy, civilian. [SPEAKER_02]: I've never served anything like that, and I heard about that. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, were they running tests?

[SPEAKER_02]: were they not running tests when is that going to be used when that can be deployed on trying to send us a message exactly well that's it that's the other thing too is let's let's go to the Ukraine rush of war we played footage on this show where they were using those drones and then just fucking with soldiers individually until they were like we're all done here we're just going to blow the fucking heads off yeah let's get the shit out of me yeah and I mean I would imagine we have stuff like that but I don't know

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think we're a little slow to start playing around with stuff like that, but since we started seeing those videos a couple of years ago, you know, a ton of money has gone into that, and I'm aware of a bunch of startup companies that have startup companies and big companies, everybody's heard it and are real, but there's a bunch of small companies that are making just weird shit like that here in the States.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I've heard of those companies as well, one of them [SPEAKER_02]: Hitch me, I was close to getting one of these employees for Hardy, a Seltzer or whatever, long story short, he was a veteran, and he goes, he, last second, he got a job at one of those companies. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna say which one it is. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll leave that alone, but I said, why, just had a curiosity, is this so important to you?

[SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, because the technology that we're using is developed in a way where, initially, they were claiming that we're looking for missing dogs. [SPEAKER_02]: We got this drone. [SPEAKER_02]: It goes up in the air. [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to look for missing dogs, missing children, and I go, well the fuck I'm looking at your resume. [SPEAKER_02]: I say all the time you spend overseas over there, and I know exactly what you did.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you're looking for dogs and children, why couldn't that be used on soldiers overseas and all the other shit? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was, I can't talk about that, and I go fair enough, but that's where you start, and you go to the public, and you say, oh, it's totally harmless, don't worry about it too. [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna find that hamburger alert kit. [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna find your missing dog, skip it. [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna be back.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, how'd you find him? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was this heat thing. [SPEAKER_02]: That we were able to track their body heat and then, you know, the signal and we were able to save these people. [SPEAKER_02]: Great story for the town, great story for the community. [SPEAKER_02]: But our warming. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But then I'm assuming that's getting bought and sold to other companies. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's put 20 grams of explosive on that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Is that happening? [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it is. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: you're tight lifts today, it's going to be Dan is going to be an interrogation today. [SPEAKER_01]: The difference between the interview and interrogation is the lighting.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to turn everything off except for the one. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was going to say we got unbelievable lighting. [SPEAKER_01]: Now you turn them all off except for the only one that's pointing right into his eyes. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, turn all these off and then just put the fuck up I'm kidding.

[SPEAKER_01]: Put the light on him, but yeah, a lot of this tech is cool and it'll out like you want people all to know that you have certain capabilities The ability to dismantle what they think is their defense system.

[SPEAKER_01]: We just did it with a ran to right they had one day of Successful operations air defense wise one day out of this entire conflict and then that got shut down in one day [SPEAKER_01]: And then we use some piece of tech that nobody's ever heard of to find our guy in the mountains. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, they wanted to blockade the straight, we blockade it instead.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think a lot of this tech is super cool, but what we really need to understand is that [SPEAKER_01]: America's Navy and Air Force are really what matters. [SPEAKER_01]: All this other Gadgetry allows us to do certain types of operations and that's cool and it helps keep the the it helps keep the collateral from the conflict contained which is a really important thing because we don't like doing fucked-up shit so

[SPEAKER_01]: But then the our ability to go anywhere in the world with our navy and put a fucking put two or three aircraft carriers Like put a full navy and a full air force in your backyard whatever we feel like it is the reason that we're the Donna super power on this earth all the other stuff flows from that we wouldn't have the petro dollar We wouldn't have you know Significant trade deficits or any of the power we have without those two things specifically and those two things are run

[SPEAKER_01]: on nicotine, and booze, and hate, and annoyance, and fucking nerds, from being honest. [SPEAKER_01]: The tech is cool though, I enjoy it. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look. [SPEAKER_01]: Because of how technologically advanced we are compared to any of our peers, so-called peers, there aren't no peers, but we're going to have ended up, it looks like, having conducted regime change in Iran and Venezuela, and we lost 13 people.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you pitch that to somebody, [SPEAKER_01]: a year ago they would call you fucking crazy. [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds unbelievable. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to knock the regime down and force them into a situation where they hand their uranium over to Russia, which is in process right now is what I'm hearing. [SPEAKER_01]: Not the planning for it. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not doing it. [SPEAKER_01]: But the planning for it, that's what's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to give their uranium to Russia. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to have some, say, and how they're fucking oil fields operate, which is the other contention point right now, and it costs us 13 dudes. [SPEAKER_01]: That is not to trivialize the loss of life because in these conflicts, those are our friends. [SPEAKER_01]: That happens too, but you wouldn't, like nobody would believe that. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: And it only happens because it isn't because of all of our funky tech. [SPEAKER_01]: It is because of our fucking Navy and our Air Force and the Air Force that's inside the Navy as well. [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, that is really what makes it. [SPEAKER_01]: as much I would love to take credit as a guy who kicks fucking doors down but I'm just like a fucking pion compared to the at the naval and air force apparatus.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one of the main reasons we want to have you on today is we're trying to figure out where this is all headed defense in tech and how the two merge and what the future of war fighting is.

[SPEAKER_01]: you take the maduro thing and uh... you look back at how many hours yeah tops to a house that's it and we were out of their uh... it's my knowledge there was no casualty right well you know there were casualties caught there were no deaths right we had a couple of guys no couple of guys a couple of them yeah the uh... shenook pilot that were received the melemoner got shot up decently in the legs and i think it's your death two more guys two more people got shot up a little bit

[SPEAKER_02]: And then, in Iran, if we're able to get out of here and, you know, completely changed their regime and then the flow of oil and all this other stuff around the world, a lot of the tech we've been using over there is new, a lot of this shit and including what they're using too with the fucking drones and shit, these suicide drones, I think they're called, what year to that get started and why?

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think the Iranians have had the Shaheed drone for a few years or watch some time that it's going to or 21, something like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that sounds right. [SPEAKER_03]: Fish. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, I mean, it's like maybe five-ish years old.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be surprised though, like, you know, the Iranians have proven over and over again that they're not like very scrupulous about collateral damage, they're eager to sort [SPEAKER_03]: You know, hundreds of Americans in the 80s, thousands of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. [SPEAKER_03]: So they'll do that.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think countries like Iran and China that are sort of less inhibited by being accountable to the public and maybe not wanting to hurt innocent people. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, who knows what they actually have on their shelves, especially in China, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the rumor is, let's start with that, the rumor is 30 to 40,000 of these suicide sites. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Can't confirm that, obviously.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they already fired 30 to 40,000, and we think they're halfway through them. [SPEAKER_01]: That was the estimation. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see the end of more. [SPEAKER_02]: Or they're halfway through the initial 30 or 40,000. [SPEAKER_01]: No, they had 80 to 100. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh, you've got to think they haven't got a half of that left. [SPEAKER_01]: Half of that left, probably less. [SPEAKER_02]: And are we taking some of those learning from that tech?

[SPEAKER_02]: I think we have. [SPEAKER_03]: I think we have. [SPEAKER_03]: I think we have. [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be surprised if we haven't. [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's the process that I've always wondered. [SPEAKER_02]: Is when you get into these conflicts, and then you see something somebody else is using. [SPEAKER_02]: Are you looking at it going? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit.

[SPEAKER_01]: week we we don't really have that right now yeah better that for sure yeah okay that's definitely happened yeah oh yeah you send that off to a darpa or i mean lucky it honestly lucky lucky built a lot of that shit for darpa yeah but yeah you send that thing off to darpa you find out what it's targeting you you just run it through the gamut see what the weaknesses are even what the strengths are because strengths are often a weakness especially

[SPEAKER_01]: It is, I'm pretty sure that those are firing for get a coordinates, not, they're not guided after a certain point. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I can't remember where they're going down that. [SPEAKER_03]: That sounds right, but I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you make a counter-drawn that snips for a particular frequency that that thing puts out while it's flying and it's got a magnet on it and it just latches to it and detonates itself, blows up in the air and it's done.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you can make that. [SPEAKER_01]: That you dream cost 20 grand or 30 grand or whatever you can make one of these for like two grand. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what people are working on right now stuff like that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you want to do [SPEAKER_01]: a fractional countermeasure that is to say your offensive weapon cost X and I want to make a defensive weapon against the cost attempt of that. [SPEAKER_01]: That's my goal, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Typically.

[SPEAKER_02]: And with your company, because I had Dan's chests best on earlier, it's so much lighter. [SPEAKER_02]: Dan was saying, what was yours overseas? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, with all this shit on it, a lot heavier, but just the two plates are 12 to 12.5 pounds each for those level four sappies, something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: That's 25. [SPEAKER_01]: It's about 25 pounds total.

[SPEAKER_01]: And these for level fours, you're looking at depending on which model you use from high comm, it's somewhere total between like what nine pounds. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And we make and 12 pounds and that are maybe 14 if you do the sevens. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we, uh, we make some economical level for plates. [SPEAKER_03]: We've actually shipped, uh, several thousand of them to Ukraine in the last couple of years called the 4 out 17.

[SPEAKER_03]: That thing weighs about 7.2 pounds depending on the cut. [SPEAKER_03]: So that would be a 14 pound body armor kit. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is a lot easier to maneuver. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but we've got some lighter ones that just came out, uh, that way, uh, like, [SPEAKER_03]: four or a half pounds, a little bit less than four and a half. [SPEAKER_03]: And every bit is protective and all that other stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's how much technology has changed.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because essentially, we're talking half. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And how many years did that take to do? [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm not exactly sure when these new polyethylene fabrics were available, but it's just in the last few years. [SPEAKER_03]: So let's call it 10 or 15 years to get that far. [SPEAKER_03]: But if you think about the flat jackets that do is were wearing in Vietnam, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, forever.

[SPEAKER_03]: How much does it this way? [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_03]: Not much. [SPEAKER_01]: Probably. [SPEAKER_01]: Fifteen pounds maybe, but they didn't do anything either. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would protect you for like frag. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you, if, uh, uh, Ordinance exploded in the area and you caught some frag from it. [SPEAKER_01]: It would stop that, but it's not stopping bullets. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Not 762 for sure. [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And these do. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's wild. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, cause I saw a woman at the gym earlier wearing one and yeah, some people do wear them at the gym No, I see those people on treadmills and I'm like, what is it like you buying that at Dix like what they do so stuff like that looks like this It looks identical.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just a plate carry and you put weight and it yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a weighted vest. [SPEAKER_01]: It's good way to train. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, it's become a fat at the gym. [SPEAKER_02]: I see more and more people on the treadmills. [SPEAKER_02]: Every single day, swear to God, women and men, where I'm like, good for them. [SPEAKER_02]: All right, cool.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, oh, man, it's like 30 pounds, or whatever, no, it's like, all right. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna sweat and harass us on, so it must be working. [SPEAKER_02]: But that's your job on a day-to-day basis. [SPEAKER_02]: What else are you guys looking at? [SPEAKER_02]: That's out there right now that you're like, all right, we can improve upon this.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think what we're good at is high capacity manufacturing being responsive to customers when they have a big order and just really high quality stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the newest fibers that are coming out, I think we can get to some really lightweight helmets. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's helmets that are heavy either. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: What are our potential customers in the Department of War and they're really concerned about?

[SPEAKER_03]: Once you put quad tubes in the battery pack and you have flashlights, they're seeing a lot of injuries to neck injury, yeah, neck injury. [SPEAKER_02]: So heavy's fun too, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Matt, Matt says buys all the fun shit and that's that, you know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Whether it gives him or he's buying him for $30,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

[SPEAKER_02]: war and then trying to walk up terrain with this shit on because you're looking at what felt like let's call it 20 to 22 pounds on my head you know 30 to 25 pounds on my chest let alone right how much is that way 80 to 120 [SPEAKER_02]: Usually you're carrying a fat girl from like saying Antonio around just to so crews around and Cutting down on just that wait to go check man.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean tier one units have been using non-belistic helmets for 40 some years now while everybody else has been wearing Kevlar. [SPEAKER_01]: They just went to like See they start out with skateboarding like bell skateboarding helmets way back in the day [SPEAKER_01]: which is now become a fast helmet, basically.

[SPEAKER_01]: They try, like, ounces equal pounds, so you're trying to trim as much weight off everything as you can, but Kevlar is heavy. [SPEAKER_01]: You're very heavy, you know, it's dense, so it's heavy. [SPEAKER_01]: these new synthetics that you can press together Laminate sheets or sometimes a teet depending on what it is. [SPEAKER_01]: It's often both.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Our waylighter and the tensile strength [SPEAKER_01]: gets way higher with it's like wearing layers in the winter, right? [SPEAKER_01]: You can wear one big coat or you can wear like four shirts and the four shirts somehow keep you And it's because everything everything looks like this, right? [SPEAKER_01]: It's woven no matter what all matter

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just including your skin looks like this the more you're able to put more of those on top of each other It's not about building one even that's closer because that you get tight, but at some point The the Hardness of the thing becomes brittle right, but if I take something that's even like this closer and I stack a thousand of those on top of each other and press them together Lighter stronger than the even the bigger bulkier thing that was

[SPEAKER_01]: that has a higher hardness rating, right? [SPEAKER_01]: So defense and layers is something that really comes in the play there. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the new tech now. [SPEAKER_01]: There's a race to get a new helmet made. [SPEAKER_02]: I was just going to ask you though. [SPEAKER_01]: Still to this day, a lot of, I don't know what you guys use, but a lot of special tiers one into are using non-belistic fucking helmets, bump helmets, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because all that other shit waste so much, even mine that I have has a counterweight in the back. [SPEAKER_01]: to like keep it from fucking my neck up when I've got all this weight on the front, that, and there's companies like [SPEAKER_01]: Not turn industries, the guys we had on the do night vision. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: They do the mounts for the night vision, not the night night vision itself.

[SPEAKER_01]: They go L3 and for tonus, like everybody else. [SPEAKER_01]: But the mount for the night vision has the ability to fold the nods back onto your head and sit stream line. [SPEAKER_01]: And the amount of weight it takes off your neck when they're in the brino position is crazy, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So this is like what we're trying to figure out. [SPEAKER_01]: There's all this tech.

[SPEAKER_01]: Drones, lasers, whatever the fuck, but then also the one dude didn't have to go stab somebody else in the fucking face. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you gotta take care of that guy too. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like a real whole of world effort there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so between the companies, is there a number on the board when you go to work every day? [SPEAKER_02]: That's all right, let's try to beat this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's try to beat that fucking number here, and how do we make this product? [SPEAKER_02]: Just as good, if not better than everybody else. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but lighter. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't have that number. [SPEAKER_03]: My R&D director, Dr. Stan, he probably does have that number somewhere. [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, for like a level four plate, if we can get close to four pounds, that's like a real needle mover.

[SPEAKER_03]: For these lighter weight plates, the level three stuff, the stops ball ammo, we're already below two pounds. [SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to see if we can get one that's like 10 by 12, it's like below one and a half. [SPEAKER_03]: like Dan said, ounces equal pounds. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just about making a little bit of an improvement every chance you get. [SPEAKER_03]: We got a new manufacturing technique. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a big basically a pressure cooker.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it's filled with silicone oil. [SPEAKER_03]: It allows you to really tightly control the pressure and the temperature. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's going to give us an ability to with current materials. [SPEAKER_03]: We can just push them a little bit further, be a little bit more consistent. [SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the big issues in body armor [SPEAKER_03]: You know, a lot of it gets pressed, like just a big vertical press.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty rudimentary, but it's hard to control, you know? [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to know exactly what's happening in the material. [SPEAKER_03]: You just kind of have to play around with a lot. [SPEAKER_03]: So this new XT-Clave pressure cooker thing. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it'll give us some an avenue to push you on the little bit with some of these new materials. [SPEAKER_02]: And how do you test it out?

[SPEAKER_02]: Is it... [SPEAKER_01]: humans you don't like in your office like the guys that you're like that's usually you're not fired anyway yeah hey guys we got a new thing come in do you remember those two guys in West Virginia they got arrested for that shit it was like back in the earth like middle 2000s yeah 2006 or something like that and uh I think they were in West Virginia and they were to shoot each other in the chest with fucking revolvers yeah [SPEAKER_01]: like it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: I also was big deals. [SPEAKER_01]: We were in body armor. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, all right, man. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you arrest him for? [SPEAKER_01]: Reckless and danger. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not attempted murder if the guy says to do it. [SPEAKER_02]: I, we, we had Steve Owen show from Jack. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was talking to him about the pilot that nobody seemed for Jack.

[SPEAKER_02]: And we go, hey, dude. [SPEAKER_02]: I remember watching the opening. [SPEAKER_02]: And it was, hi. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Jack. [SPEAKER_02]: Tony Knoxville. [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Jack. [SPEAKER_02]: Middle the force. [SPEAKER_02]: He had a vest on nothing else. [SPEAKER_02]: shirtless underneath it. [SPEAKER_02]: Everything else. [SPEAKER_02]: So I got a fucking handgun. [SPEAKER_02]: Shot himself in the chest. [SPEAKER_02]: lived.

[SPEAKER_02]: But whatever that company was, I would have been the best advertising of all goddamn time. [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, he was still breathing hard. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was he went down and you were like, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll be something that happens as well. [SPEAKER_01]: So we've developed.

[SPEAKER_01]: some pretty interesting stuff like stab vests basically and it has the one that was really effective was it was some kind of synthetic plastic rubber I can't remember which but it was mixed with like glass particles basically like tiny glass like should basically ground up glass okay which sounds like sand but it's been transformed from sand to the glass so it's like harder

[SPEAKER_01]: It's flexible, but when you apply blunt force or even direct energy to it, like what you call it, an acute force or like a pin knife or something like that or even a bigger knife, it locks up.

[SPEAKER_01]: When you do that, I think something like that for body armor is going to be interesting because [SPEAKER_01]: One of the reasons you can't make it lighter and thinner as well as because of energy, right like it Let's say you could develop a fabric this then that could stop a bullet. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still here. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I'm still getting fucking broken ribs. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still combat and effective for worse.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or so you have a balance. [SPEAKER_03]: I die That's one of the reasons these things are so thick and back face deformation so you get hit with a high enough energy bullet [SPEAKER_03]: And there's going to be a bulge on the back, no, almost no matter what. [SPEAKER_01]: You got to play it over there, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Feel the back of it and how soft it is back there.

[SPEAKER_03]: So compared to the front, that back phase deformation represents an energy being transferred into your ribcage, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So you've got to try to, one of the testing parameters for most of these is, like, some standard for that back phase deformation. [SPEAKER_03]: How much is one of these costs?

[SPEAKER_03]: So these are actually we got like we ran out of materials to make the 3S 15 level 3 and a 3S 14 level 3 plus They're on sale. [SPEAKER_03]: We got them on the shelf that one I think the MSRP's like 800 bucks eight hundred bucks for that which model is that? [SPEAKER_03]: That's the 3S 14 three. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we got on there. [SPEAKER_03]: See There's somewhere we do have a discount code for drinking bros. Do you really got it my way drinking bros 20?

[SPEAKER_02]: There we go Drink about 20. [SPEAKER_02]: It's what is this 20% on your website?

[SPEAKER_02]: uh... high-com armor dot com okay this uh... fucking white yeah i mean i'm able to hold this yeah i'm not a top screen in front of the screen tip that'll stop uh... aka mild still core that's really good protection for damn really good weight um... because the other side of this that i want to chat about because i get kids i get three kids [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, obviously there's been a lot of school shootings.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lot of companies who've been making backpacks for kids. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Out of material like this, do you guys do that as well? [SPEAKER_03]: We don't make backpack plates. [SPEAKER_03]: Can you throw me that three I tend? [SPEAKER_03]: This? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't make specific backpack plates, but something like this, one of these two, they'll both stop. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this is lightest.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that weighs like a, well, one, two, seven or something, one, eight. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know if this is a whole pound. [SPEAKER_03]: That's a little, it's like one, six, one, seven, that's someone point six, one point seven. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is lightest. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: That'll stop handgun ammo. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you come up with a 44-magnum or something, you're going to get dinged up.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if you shoot somebody point Blake with a 9-millimeter, that'll stop it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. [SPEAKER_03]: And that one required that really thin one requires a soft armor backer. [SPEAKER_03]: But the other one is the same capability, stand-alone. [SPEAKER_03]: And it'll stop rifle ammo ball rifle ammo is a tad heavier than the other one Yeah, and what's the difference between the two of these oh?

[SPEAKER_01]: That one needs this as well right so getting one but this weighs half a pound so you in total You're like two pounds. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so they're really like one [SPEAKER_03]: with that soft armor backer. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, that'll stop rifle ammo. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because this, like this was in a backpack, you wouldn't really feed the whole. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Not much at all. [SPEAKER_02]: Even as a kid.

[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I actually had a buddy of mine asked me about this yesterday and we're probably gonna recommend one of these two to him for backpack. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it's one of those things where if you were selling it, a lot of people were fearful out there and they'll do anything for their kids. [SPEAKER_02]: They would sell really well. [SPEAKER_02]: But they've got to be light enough. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Because of kids walking around the whole day.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty funny. [SPEAKER_03]: Johnny's already got a bag full of books. [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't need to add extra ounces to his mouth. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: And those books are still huge due for Christ's sex. [SPEAKER_02]: I watched my kid come home and the backpack was like mine where it's just a foot outward. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: He's hunched over and he's like, OK, down in the home.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think one of the next advances we're going to see. [SPEAKER_01]: So this is all about there's two, there's two things that go on with any kind of armor, whether it's body or any kind of armor. [SPEAKER_01]: One is absorption of the initial impact. [SPEAKER_01]: So there's no penetration of the second one is distribution of energy, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, distribution of energy is really interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, if you could make something that's this light that had something, [SPEAKER_01]: materialized and tech-wise, but if you're able to have something that's [SPEAKER_01]: relatively thin, like half the thinness of that smaller plate right there, that has some mechanism for distributing the energy outward somehow.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now you've got something really serious right because the soft armor on the back and the deformation that happens on the back of the plate is no longer an issue which means you can go lighter and lighter and lighter. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and if you look at a country like England where no guns over there and there's a ton of fucking stabbing [SPEAKER_02]: you were able to create a T-shirt material like that that would stop that?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Those that sell out in fucking 10 seconds. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not changing. [SPEAKER_02]: They're covering. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not changing in time. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not even just about personal protection and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_01]: You got to think of what a material like that can do for the space program, right? [SPEAKER_01]: we're not we're going to the moon.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have a base there by the end of this decade. [SPEAKER_01]: We will be mining helium to bring back here for energy. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably be setting up some solar stuff as well. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think we're too far I mentioned this before, but I don't think we're too far away from mining asteroids and things like that either. [SPEAKER_01]: We've already landed two different fucking drones on asteroids that we're moving.

[SPEAKER_01]: which is an incredible feat for young beings. [SPEAKER_01]: Finding one that's somewhat larger to land people on so they can drill into it, not like Bill or like Armageddon or anything like that. [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, some reasonable side thing that we know is got a chunk of whatever we need on it, just go fucking knock that thing off.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is just talking about, um, this is, this is, [SPEAKER_01]: It takes humanity from a type 0 civilization to a type 1 civilization. [SPEAKER_01]: A type 1 civilization has the ability to harness the energy of its solar system. [SPEAKER_01]: We can't even, we can't even, we don't even, I'm sorry, a type 1 does the energy of its own planet.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're a type like point 6 right now, we don't have the full planet yet, but we could [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that's an important thing, right, because eventually we're going to run out of room. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to run out of resources here and also it's fucking cool. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's very cool and and space right now is very fucking cool and more and more kids.

[SPEAKER_02]: which I love to see personally because I was locked in the Artemis 2 and whole mission and everything else which I'm going to segue into the okay cool because I was and it's about them getting dived up a nice toilet broke all right and I said hello to I go somebody's send in if you're out there uh... fucking space uh... an astronaut diaper [SPEAKER_02]: So they send these in. [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't taken these out so today. [SPEAKER_02]: I knew you were coming.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where does he got blue in? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm cool. [SPEAKER_02]: I will about to find out. [SPEAKER_02]: They're bigger and thicker than I thought. [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, it comes up to like above your belly button. [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, dude. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit. [SPEAKER_02]: This is way bigger than I thought here. [SPEAKER_03]: That can't be real. [SPEAKER_02]: Do they actually, oh, this is real.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is heavy. [SPEAKER_03]: Pictures of stars on astronaut diapers. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: But this is heavy. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this can contain a lot.

[SPEAKER_01]: is that taco Tuesday diaper for somebody like me that now this is not the one that has a uses it's not but it's a they said it's almost identical the one they use looks like a pull-up this is the commercially available right but if you're a bigger if you're a bigger dude that's it the one the one that they actually use is uh bob you can probably look it up pull that diaper up it's just called the give me diaper it's literally called the astronaut diaper and it's a big pull-up basically that's

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that it I think it has a water filtration thing in it to pop it out there that's right there. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what it's going to reuse or you can recycle. [SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine it does. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean you kind of have to up there if you're going to be. [SPEAKER_02]: This was sent to me by DB Cooper, by the way, one of our listeners. [SPEAKER_04]: To be your last of Spaceman characters on this diaper. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like this better dude.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is I see the whole solar system and it's heavy is shit like no No, lie. [SPEAKER_02]: This is very very thick. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's just a fetish prop. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want to get up all this way too thick, dude This is way too thick compared to this Yes, Cristina, I'm talking about this by the way.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not kidding when I say this this seems realistic because this would hold [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck dude, maybe three hardy half solters if I just dumped it out in here. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not kidding. [SPEAKER_03]: There's one way to find out. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: They were what five days and they were they were all typed up up there. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, but changing in and out of this, [SPEAKER_02]: That looks too uncomfortable and impossible.

[SPEAKER_02]: This seems realistic to me. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously besides the solar system. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: Is there, do they have a family restaurant up there? [SPEAKER_01]: Where you get to change each other or how's the work? [SPEAKER_02]: No, see, there was one toilet up there. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I know that. [SPEAKER_02]: And then they swapped it out. [SPEAKER_02]: And then here was the interesting thing on day one when it first broke, it was the fan.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, man, why does the fan matter? [SPEAKER_02]: And it said the fan was for privacy, [SPEAKER_02]: We've all had to, you know, grip on a handy cap stall, those bars and really, really let something loose. [SPEAKER_03]: And all those space cookies? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, back to you. [SPEAKER_02]: And it feels like you're earning a pulse and ice cream, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like you're giving birth and you've got a really grunt one out.

[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to, you don't want the other guys in there to hear you grump in one out. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd be hanging out with you two weeks. [SPEAKER_02]: And there was a check on the plane, too, and I don't, I mean, I wouldn't. [SPEAKER_03]: You're not self-conscious about that now. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you've done it in the patrol base. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, yeah, I'm just getting over there. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, quite.

[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I'm sure that they were fine with it. [SPEAKER_02]: And however, it's a polite thing. [SPEAKER_02]: They were in a small space. [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't want to hear your bestie grump in one now. [SPEAKER_01]: I just play four times a year. [SPEAKER_01]: I play four times a year. [SPEAKER_01]: I play four times a year on full blast when I'm pooping. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you play CCR? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Damn it, man. [SPEAKER_02]: You gotta set the mood.

[SPEAKER_02]: Are we gonna go best shit, ever? [SPEAKER_02]: I'll go best shit, ever with you. [SPEAKER_02]: I have one every day. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't I take a two pound dump every $50.50. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm I'm 50.50. [SPEAKER_02]: I Bob you're probably $10.90. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean 10.90? [SPEAKER_01]: Tell what's the 10? [SPEAKER_02]: 10 is is a good hard dump. [SPEAKER_02]: 90's a just a splatter and a fucking mess. [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm soft-servant most days, for sure. [SPEAKER_04]: But not, it's not water. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a TCBY. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, dump out. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that means you're hydrated. [SPEAKER_01]: Is it really? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you shouldn't be having hard clumped come out of your butt. [SPEAKER_01]: That means you're fucked. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that meant was a lot of protein. [SPEAKER_02]: No, that means you're dehydrated.

[SPEAKER_02]: I just like it because it's less wipes. [SPEAKER_02]: And there I'm like, all right, cool. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in and out of here and I don't have to worry about it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's super low maintenance. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to sit in my own shit the rest of the day. [SPEAKER_02]: Anywhere, it's just like, man.

[SPEAKER_02]: god damn it i mean there's a point and i don't know what your your point is uh it's Friday we're drinking who gives a shit here if i get past three to four wipes like hard on it's where it's going to be terrible i just i'm gonna pop it i got to take shit i got to take a fucking shower fucking shower i'm like dude i can't i can't live the rest of my day like this you know what you need is an aina's butler [SPEAKER_02]: I love how I'm not rich enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, that's what we all got to get to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going goals. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we're trying. [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm pretty good, man. [SPEAKER_03]: Like I yeah, my body's [SPEAKER_03]: pretty consistent about like get this out before the shower bro. [SPEAKER_03]: Really? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Good for you. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Minds like less. [SPEAKER_01]: Minds somewhere either. [SPEAKER_01]: It's between coffee one and two.

[SPEAKER_01]: Typically. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: But I, it's for me. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a espresso. [SPEAKER_01]: I have an espresso. [SPEAKER_01]: Then I usually have another one. [SPEAKER_01]: I have espresso when I eat breakfast and I'm usually have another one after before I kind of work. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's somewhere in between those two where it's a pretty consistent pile. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: a big one.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's like, I would say probably pound and a half. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I get it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, like, for me, I get a coach tonight. [SPEAKER_02]: So I get past four five wives and I'm like, I'm showering. [SPEAKER_02]: I get a coach later. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sweat. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want that fucking stink on me. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So luckily, I'll go today.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it was, you know, big win for me. [SPEAKER_02]: And it, I actually, [SPEAKER_02]: I felt better throughout the day. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I feel stronger, and I feel like I'm able to complete my day in my task and live my life. [SPEAKER_01]: What task? [SPEAKER_01]: The coaching part, you mean? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's other like, you know, man-choir shit you have to do, where it's like taking on the trash, holding on stuff, lifting up the baby, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: You got a baby? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got three-year-old. [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. [SPEAKER_02]: I got a three-year-old. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're age? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Can you believe it? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 33, and that's for you. [SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't look at day over 45.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is an insult and I don't know that we had we should have this person in the show Kind of hurt my feelings. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I yeah, we a child later in life. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh an accident.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was not a purpose good for you, man Well, I love the child so it's fine, but it was not it was definitely not intentional What I was just like what you're too old for that we can't be having a kid that can't be real Can it's not anymore we're gonna live forever [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, that's, and then we'll go to it, right? [SPEAKER_02]: So let's say we can harness all the energy, all the cool shit, all the things, or whatever, how will that make us live longer?

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think that's like, been one of the limiting factors, right? [SPEAKER_03]: It is, uh, just, [SPEAKER_03]: Just being able to supply for basic needs and one of the basic needs is just being able to monitor your home. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's just like your home and cook your food. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But you have to own a home. [SPEAKER_02]: So I got that's the other debate that I had.

[SPEAKER_02]: People were coming after Dan the other day for saying, [SPEAKER_02]: about gas, and gas is four dollars five dollars, you know, like I don't really give a shit. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, well, there's a lot of people that do. [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I do, I want to, I care. [SPEAKER_01]: I just know that it's going to end soon because I pay attention. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_02]: But, but for right now, it hurts.

[SPEAKER_02]: And there's, there's pain at the pump for sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: And people are worried about, [SPEAKER_02]: whether they can even have a home to have kids to live in that home, to raise in that home and all the other shit, and that's what I'm concerned about, and then what it looks like as people are living longer, because one of the biggest bitches in California, and when I say bitches, I'm not talking about Kamal Harris, I'm talking about like gripes, is the fact that it's a lot of boomers.

[SPEAKER_02]: aren't selling their homes, which why should they, in my opinion, like, hey, you worked your ass off your ass. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: 30 year mortgage. [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_02]: You finally paid it off. [SPEAKER_02]: Why should you sell it and move to lower everybody else's prices? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck you. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

[SPEAKER_03]: But how do you do that, and, you know, yeah, I mean, California is a good example of politicians, stymine, development, and inviting in, like making it hospitable for

[SPEAKER_02]: uh... a legal immigrants while also stymine development so a while shocker there's a housing shortage but i'm in a look take taxes were in taxes right now i won't be very much longer but uh... started when i moved here uh... you know taxes were this week in all this other shit talk to him about it and uh... and it was just looking at expenses overall and what is changed uh... since we got here six years ago property taxes and i'm all with a bullet for me now he's a veteran so it

[SPEAKER_02]: I think yours are no. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to paint, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh you do. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know that. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought you got a capricet. [SPEAKER_01]: No, there's a, there's a, no, no, that you get like, um, [SPEAKER_01]: I think at my level, they take $12,000 off the assessed value of your house, which is nothing. [SPEAKER_01]: That's nothing, that's nothing, that's meaningless.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it saves me like 30 bucks a year. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks a lot, Texas. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Because my property taxes in my house were 18 or 19,000 bucks. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 24, minus 22. [SPEAKER_02]: And like, [SPEAKER_02]: That fucking house ain't worth it, bro. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude.

[SPEAKER_02]: I like that's brutal two grand a month no shit But when I moved here, I was like, oh, hey man, it's you know 1100 1100 a month And you're still like a steep increase. [SPEAKER_02]: Totally serious, man. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I was like all right It's actually gonna go 13,000 to that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah if you're in haze or travel the hunt Actually going down for 26 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike's went up. [SPEAKER_01]: So I just got that. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I really.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got it. [SPEAKER_01]: I got it. [SPEAKER_01]: I got it. [SPEAKER_01]: My sister's days ago. [SPEAKER_01]: My sister's value went down by 150k, but it unnaturally went up. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you remember your dripping house. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But he's just one of the worst counties in the country for this shit. [SPEAKER_01]: Travis is okay sometimes. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it goes up. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it goes down.

[SPEAKER_01]: And my experience I didn't have any issues with that, but in he's county, [SPEAKER_01]: It's only gone up, and they first, I don't know what happened exactly, but they went full retard last year and went way too high and a bunch of people sued them and everybody, I mean, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody always wins those suits, so they corrected it a little bit for this upcoming year, but it's still going to fucking be hammer.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's still high and my point is that people are going to live longer and we're going to develop all this crazy technology and that's how the shit's a live longer. [SPEAKER_02]: people are going to be living in their houses longer. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's you're going to have to either figure out a way to build more houses or figure out a way to use the nice people. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Canada figured that out. [SPEAKER_01]: They sure did.

[SPEAKER_03]: Canada's paved the way. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I think by the way that we decide how to handle this problem is going to dictate who he becomes a people to some degree, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like the smart move is to find [SPEAKER_01]: less expensive materials that can be better mass-produced and try to work our way back to, especially now that remote work is so popular, try to work our way back into a generational household or neighborhood situation where your parents and grandparents live nearby you. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what is individual people that are in the markets for these things.

[SPEAKER_01]: We should be thinking about that when we're [SPEAKER_01]: educating ourselves, finding careers, finding new careers buying homes, and also how you're prepping your kids to go out into that marketplace as well. [SPEAKER_01]: Because when we were growing up, there was very little chance that I was going to stand my hometown. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_01]: I had to go somewhere else do the thing I wanted to do. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not really true anymore.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_01]: I could stay wherever the fuck I am right now and do pretty much anything. [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a big thing that

[SPEAKER_01]: tweens teens that you should be talking to your kids about if you got them in that age it's like hey you don't fucking have to go off anywhere to find your thing you can go off to do your Hemingway bullshit and then come back and fucking live here and we can build something here you don't know what to mean right and I think that's how the average person fights back against that stuff is by buying property and figuring out how to put stuff on it I think that's the future and that was one of the biggest reasons for our move back we're heading back to North Carolina and okay

[SPEAKER_02]: is to be by family for both of us and then you're in a community at least that we love where to dance points like yes I would and other people in in that community already talking about it now of like to be put it down payment down on another house for kids for the future how do we make sure that they have a house and they're able to have a family and all this other shit [SPEAKER_02]: Those conversations were never being had fucking 10 years ago.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now they're happening a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's good they're happening. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, because we're thinking about it now. [SPEAKER_01]: Our parents weren't, while they probably wanted us to stay nearby, they didn't think that that was a reasonable thing. [SPEAKER_01]: No, now it's becoming reasonable again. [SPEAKER_01]: So in every time there's a deficit, there's a fucking opportunity, always.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this is an opportunity for us to build tighter enclaves with our families and people that think like us instead [SPEAKER_01]: just being effectively a diaspora to your own fucking kin. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, which is an odd thing to do inside of a country. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it was necessary for a while because that's where a big country geographically and that's how industry works sometimes, but it's starting to fall back in on itself.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a really good opportunity and I don't know what that does to... [SPEAKER_01]: the housing market because there's a number of different ways to fulfill inventory and meat capacity, right? [SPEAKER_01]: There's a number of different ways. [SPEAKER_01]: One is to shrink the required capacity.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if people are building multiple things on one larger piece of property, then you've shrunk the capacity down for at least land to some degree, right, because you don't have partition stuff anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: If you're able to build, even let's say larger structures for less money, but it houses, and I'm not talking about condos, I'm talking about like a multifamily home, right? [SPEAKER_01]: My multifamily means parents. [SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like in Italy, this is a very common thing. [SPEAKER_01]: To have a villa,

[SPEAKER_02]: all one property of villa with a fucking parents or and grandparents live and in the kids when they would come up age they live in another villa right there and then when the parents and grandparents die they move into the big house and then the fucking new generations in the small one this has been going on there for hundreds of years and Bob and Texas because you're in between houses right now yeah he's living outside what's what's it called because they shit my instead not a home

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it's attached to the house like a mother wants me sort of I don't know god damn it's right outside like an in cita I know I'm gonna kill the chat over this in senata in cita something like that's where it's just like oh Cool, that's that's for the that's where the grandparents live yeah [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not quite there. [SPEAKER_01]: I know what you're getting at, but I can't think of anything that's going to happen. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a fucking word.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's called an accessory dwelling unit in Texas. [SPEAKER_02]: NADU. [SPEAKER_02]: Goddamnit. [SPEAKER_01]: It rolls out the tongue. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a real-utter term, dude, in Sanada, in Sita, something fucking unit. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's for parents. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's separate from the house. [SPEAKER_02]: So you have a, there's a separate bathroom, restroom, all the other stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it can come out and, you know, getting the house and there's a separate entrance. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you allow that, obviously. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: You can control access to the main house based on their behavior, which is I saw I would recommend doing that. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, grandma, your macaroni and cheese and things giving was fucked. [SPEAKER_01]: And your band from the house until Christmas.

[SPEAKER_01]: You got another opportunity coming up. [SPEAKER_01]: But don't show your fucking face around here. [SPEAKER_01]: You will bitch. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: That's how you talk to old people. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you're right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it means when it says honor your father. [SPEAKER_01]: My grandmother would have beat the shot of you for saying any of that. [SPEAKER_01]: Mother and law of sweets. [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I said. [SPEAKER_02]: Is that it? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's called an HDU or something like that in real estate terms. [SPEAKER_01]: It's an HDU, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it started in Latin America, and it was God dammit. [SPEAKER_02]: It was another name for it. [SPEAKER_02]: Favellas, that is nail pieces of fucking sheet metal together. [SPEAKER_02]: God, you can fucking find this, dude. [SPEAKER_02]: It would save my life right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: I am all in the fucking, I'm hanging on the goddamn door and your rows and I'm jack right now. [SPEAKER_02]: And you're saying there's not enough room on this fucking door. [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy right now. [SPEAKER_04]: Fath. [SPEAKER_04]: Quattro days ago. [SPEAKER_02]: No, not a club. [SPEAKER_02]: That's not. [SPEAKER_02]: That's a question for Cacita. [SPEAKER_02]: God damn it. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Boom fucking Cacita.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Bob. [SPEAKER_02]: The Cacita. [SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't just mean small house. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just a little house that's right off to there. [SPEAKER_02]: Is that what we're headed to? [SPEAKER_02]: Or it's just like I would love that. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I mean how many people that are in retirement age are downsizing anyways?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like if you're if you're like in your 70s and 80s you really don't need to be in a 4 or 5,000 square foot house I mean, it was a fuck sling in all that yeah, and I think it's an artificial construct that like we think it's just natural to Never live with your parents again or never have them live with you. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's weird though. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, all [SPEAKER_03]: It is weird, but I think the, why are we like that? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: I read a stat a long time ago. [SPEAKER_04]: It probably holds true today. [SPEAKER_04]: This is probably like 20 years ago at the staff. [SPEAKER_04]: But Americans move more than any other nationality on Earth. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, really. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: Why? [SPEAKER_01]: Or business in here? [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we have like, we, that is definitely true, reckless.

[SPEAKER_02]: uh... keeping up with the junges but the grass is always greener all these you know afirisms that we tend to because we can i think i'd just meet personally uh... because again we're at maximum care on my my parents are there and all that other stuff like i think it's the things that i learned from my grandparents they made this is me but i'm the things that i learned from my grandparents my great grandparents uh... i was fortunate enough to that's awesome to hang out with them for

[SPEAKER_02]: eight or nine years before they pass, but I was luckily smarter than I am now as a child. [SPEAKER_02]: So I was able to ask them stories about the past and everything else. [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: You can learn so much that I don't know that anybody does that today. [SPEAKER_00]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Oddly enough, my kids. [SPEAKER_02]: All they talk about is going back and seeing the grandparents. [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, the grandpa and grandma and go into the movies and go into the things and all the other stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like [SPEAKER_02]: We got away from that as a society for a long time. [SPEAKER_02]: We're kind of being forced back in that because of what the economy is in the affordability of houses and all other ships. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's again. [SPEAKER_01]: We're being forced back into something that's better for us.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I understand that gas is expensive and housing is fucked, but we're being forced into something that's better for us. [SPEAKER_03]: Are we being forced back or we just revert into the natural or more natural mean? [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I always question. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't have the answers to that. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it's obvious.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can see the, especially for kids, but also for people and later life, the outcomes are wildly different, health and educationally for families that are closer together. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a fact. [SPEAKER_01]: There's no question about that, right? [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, some of it is doomsday. [SPEAKER_01]: Look, we've spread out.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we got a little too spread out and we couldn't maintain security and now we got to tighten up a little bit Yeah, and the military term. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't make sense if you're an infantry man Right our LP or OP got a little too far out and you got kidnapped Yeah, and now we got to go fucking rescue that Carl motherfucker You know kidnapped is being brainwashed.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean it's like uh [SPEAKER_01]: It's not great that, especially because of all the financial interests in the housing market, from macro down to micro, we don't want it to collapse, obviously. [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think you should keep in mind when you're dealing with the facts on the ground, the reality in front of you, keep in mind that it's not a punishment to have to be closer to your family, no matter fact, all the outcomes get better.

[SPEAKER_01]: If that's the case, maybe keep that in mind as you're making plans to deal with this [SPEAKER_02]: But again, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I really don't. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: If it crashes the economy, it's not great. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, that part's not great. [SPEAKER_01]: If it blocks from the family aspect, but if it fucks up people's individual finances and a lot of, again, the middle class.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've said there's a million times when the middle class in this country has historically maintained most of its wealth in the equating at home, right? [SPEAKER_01]: So that's an issue that we're going to have to solve for as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't mean that we shouldn't solve for it in a way that gets us all closer [SPEAKER_01]: I think, I mean, I would love to be older and have late 20s, early 30s kids moving back to the neighborhood after they've established education and career, whatever they decide to do. [SPEAKER_01]: And then start a family and then fuck and start a family nearby so I can see the grandkids and shit like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: My wife and I talk about that all the time, and it's interesting that's out of this conversation. [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about the future of defense and protection and everything else. [SPEAKER_02]: And then eventually, it all leads back to family. [SPEAKER_02]: And you're protecting your family and defending your family and your friends and neighborhoods and all that other shits. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's pretty wild. [SPEAKER_02]: How basic it really is.

[SPEAKER_02]: When you break it down, if you go down. [SPEAKER_02]: You can take it right. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we do, I should have mentioned, we make ballistic shields too, and we're actually providing some, you know, here in Texas, they passed a law where all schools have to have a shield, so we're. [SPEAKER_02]: I did not know that. [SPEAKER_02]: So explain that to the audience. [SPEAKER_02]: Because we, we had to put cops on campuses.

[SPEAKER_01]: They have to have certain like that. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not just police, it has to be police or private security, but they have to be armed, and there has to be certain equipment on. [SPEAKER_01]: Just in the same way that. [SPEAKER_01]: like OSHA requires that an ADB and a public location as well. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel safer that way. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind it, I really don't.

[SPEAKER_02]: And every time I pull up the school to every morning and drop my kids off, it's always a cop there. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, all right, great. [SPEAKER_02]: This is awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: What's the shield? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the shield although. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I forget what it's, what it is, it's house bill. [SPEAKER_03]: I forget what it is, but Bob has looked it up. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a lot of power. [SPEAKER_03]: Very easily if you wanted to right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it went into a fire and he hates us today. [SPEAKER_03]: This year and like all schools in Texas have to have, I think it's based on the size of the school. [SPEAKER_03]: You have to have a certain number of people. [SPEAKER_01]: HB30. [SPEAKER_03]: There we go. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: And in HP 33, what kind of shield is that for? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know nothing.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it mandates at least one rifle rated ballistic shield and one breaching tool. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, they say haligan tool, we say hole again, because we're assholes. [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, uh, but a fully totally tool and a fucking shield and then, uh, an armed guard of some sort. [SPEAKER_01]: So is that in the trunk? [SPEAKER_01]: I know it would be within access of the whoever's in charge there. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no shit. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's dope.

[SPEAKER_02]: Probably I know that. [SPEAKER_02]: Probably that security office, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because when I when I say McKinsey school every morning, like I always see the cop there, he's always armed, obviously. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel better about myself. [SPEAKER_02]: The day and night talk, if talked about this in the past, there's really two levels of security to get through the building.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's usually like some bulletproof glass. [SPEAKER_01]: You want a magnetic door with lexan and a fucking man trap and other than that one arm guard can handle that situation. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's have an old principle ready to go. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, let's go that. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, [SPEAKER_02]: perfect. [SPEAKER_02]: What state was this in, do you remember?

[SPEAKER_02]: A bunch of listeners have sent this on double check in a minute. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look at this. [SPEAKER_02]: Principle comes out tackles this mother fucker to the ground dude. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, manchering. [SPEAKER_02]: But that is a perfect form tackle. [SPEAKER_02]: This is what it's used to kids in football. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a perfect form tackle right there. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no penalty for that. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no crowning, no nothing.

[SPEAKER_02]: God, he got that guy to the ground with perfect technique, he must have been a football player back in the day. [SPEAKER_02]: And he's just now bunting this motherfuckered ground dude, I love to see it. [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to know what he's saying to him right there. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, fuck yo couch. [SPEAKER_02]: I like that's just a guess of no idea what that would be hilarious. [SPEAKER_01]: I know there's been other ones.

[SPEAKER_01]: There was that boy who said that like there was that man. [SPEAKER_01]: There was that black vice principal who stopped the kid in the hallway. [SPEAKER_01]: Who has had an up there and he just took the gun away from very calmly and the kid to start a weeping, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious what he said to him. [SPEAKER_01]: I probably wasn't aggressive to be honest. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't think so?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: He said something to the effect of why you're doing this? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: There's an Oklahoma, try to find out where. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Might just be a small town. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Paul's Valley, some small town. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, it's awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know the name of the dude? [SPEAKER_02]: We'll give him drink and bro the week for sure, man.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll punch you guys off sent this in and Kirk Moore. [SPEAKER_02]: Kirk Moore, dude. [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Kirk Moore. [SPEAKER_02]: How many lives of that guy, Seth? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's a shit. [SPEAKER_02]: We need more Kirk Moore's in the world, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but sure one. [SPEAKER_04]: And this kid, I feel bad, like, look at this kid. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, he thinks he's having the worst day. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, he just got sent to the principal's office.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's waiting outside. [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. [SPEAKER_04]: He's in trouble. [SPEAKER_01]: And now he's doing a Naruto run down the fucking church. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure is. [SPEAKER_04]: The fuck is he doing like it? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: He's right out of there. [SPEAKER_04]: Probably took a dump in a urinal. [SPEAKER_04]: Thought it was funny. [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_04]: Want to pull it for his trouble.

[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not even helping the principal. [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, now you're good, fam. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: You got this. [SPEAKER_02]: He saw that form taco. [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I don't want any of this smoke man. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not with his motherfuckers Thought you were a bully come on. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it all changes, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, once Bullies got to do bully shit But yeah, are you working on anything for schools?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, so we're delivering some shields to a couple of different types of school districts now. [SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_03]: And by we got a rep in Fort Worth, Michelle Lannum, right already to help you out. [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_02]: Is there any pushback from any of these schools? [SPEAKER_03]: Um, no, I mean, it's, I mean, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure some people were maybe against the rule, but the law went into effect this year and it looks like everybody's gonna comply. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool, good, good. [SPEAKER_02]: Cause, you know, you see on the news, like, you know, certain districts and things or whatever, like, I don't want police and schools or whatever, and you're like, awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, wait for something happens in your own kids. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, right.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then tell me you don't want that shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Now's the show, but now's the point that show we get to drink a bro the week. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, [SPEAKER_02]: Kirk is our personal trainer, bro, the week, but what about you, sir? [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody who has inspired you or helps you become the person you aren't today. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I got a couple of dudes that inspired me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Andrew Nags, buddy of mine I went to West Point with. [SPEAKER_03]: He was in the Trump administration, the first Trump administration. [SPEAKER_03]: Him and Arkansas Dave helping get through West Point. [SPEAKER_03]: And then my best man. [SPEAKER_03]: He was my junior Charlie several years ago. [SPEAKER_03]: He did the long walk in 2012. [SPEAKER_03]: And now he's in parts unknown, doing it for real.

[SPEAKER_03]: OK. Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Arkansas Dave, Arkansas Dave, and he went to West Point. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: He usually Arkansas Dave can't get into West Point. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we have a friend named Texas Dave. [SPEAKER_01]: And he builds and drives race cars for a living. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: He seems a lot more appropriate for a race. [SPEAKER_01]: He could not get into West Point.

[SPEAKER_01]: Arkansas Dave, he's a construction day of his brilliant. [SPEAKER_01]: He could have gotten into West Point. [SPEAKER_01]: Really he would have no interest in doing that. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but he is one of the smarter people that I've met actually You got to be smart as fuck to get in there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a good idea. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's go. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well Yeah, you look 2.011 Bravo.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah [SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, yeah, were you with 2.0 at West Point? [SPEAKER_03]: I think I had a 2.6. [SPEAKER_02]: You piece of shit. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like, yeah, just 2.3 and higher, right? [SPEAKER_01]: See, he's just agrees. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's getting agrees. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, uh, Shane Gillis got accepted the West Point as well. [SPEAKER_04]: He did get into West Point. [SPEAKER_01]: He did, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he like did the knob tour. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you guys call it. [SPEAKER_01]: It's called the call knob, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like, ah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was there day one. [SPEAKER_04]: He did the parade or whatever they do for the new recruit or new students He was he was in it. [SPEAKER_04]: He was in it and he literally according to him.

[SPEAKER_04]: He turned to his mom who was you know in the watching it or whatever He turned his mom and he just goes I don't want to be here. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to leave. [SPEAKER_03]: I did that every day for four years [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you'll be asked to speak. [SPEAKER_02]: Graduation. [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not. [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for being here. [SPEAKER_02]: Talk about the name of your company. [SPEAKER_03]: High-com armor.

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