Episode 1617 - Ian Crossland Returns!

[SPEAKER_02]: Sit back relax, and have a bucket, dress, dress, dress. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, well, I'm going to drink and roast kids. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's going to be a wild one today. [SPEAKER_03]: Ian, cross the one's back on the show, dude. [SPEAKER_03]: Happy to be here. [SPEAKER_03]: You've returned, you give him a round of applause for that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's always going to get fucking weird around here. [SPEAKER_03]: Walked into another show and just said, hey, I'm here.

[SPEAKER_03]: My presence has been announced, and I'm in the fucking building. [SPEAKER_06]: You guys were talking about it. [SPEAKER_06]: I began, I had to get in on it. [SPEAKER_03]: Jump in, dude, you jump in any form of psychedelic one of them. [SPEAKER_03]: Cause let's face it. [SPEAKER_03]: You look like the guy where if I opened up the dictionary and looked at the word psychedelic, it would be your picture. [SPEAKER_06]: That trick is, I'm not really.

[SPEAKER_06]: I just, well, a little bit, but I want to see him like, I'm not irresponsible, because I should put it that way. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I haven't blown myself apart with it. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: But I've never, like, [SPEAKER_06]: blasted off with the M.T. [SPEAKER_06]: I've only puffed on it. [SPEAKER_06]: I've seen through the veil, but I've never gone through the veil. [SPEAKER_06]: And so I've had conversations with the spirits knowing that it was very interesting.

[SPEAKER_06]: Have you smoked DMT before? [SPEAKER_06]: I have not. [SPEAKER_06]: I'll tell you about it, I guess. [SPEAKER_06]: I'll just quit it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if I were. [SPEAKER_06]: Vaped on it. [SPEAKER_06]: All of a sudden, you see these like strings of like Alphanumeric Pat or I was seeing Alphanumeric shimmering patterns, the shimmering took on like a white light because it was all the colors of the rainbow shimmering.

[SPEAKER_06]: Then these strands of ribbons of patterns took on the outline of this woman's arm and she's waving me towards her and's like, come here. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, instead of speaking, because your body's like, come and tell us, I'm using my mind to communicate with them. [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, where, who are my thoughts? [SPEAKER_06]: And she's like, in, and I'm like, what the fuck? [SPEAKER_06]: And then I see these other two beings appear.

[SPEAKER_06]: And when I say beings, they're like shimmering light that takes on a hominid shape and they're moving like people. [SPEAKER_06]: So I feel like they have personality. [SPEAKER_06]: They do have personality, whether I don't know if they're human, high frequency beings. [SPEAKER_06]: And I asked this one, are you God? [SPEAKER_06]: He laughed and was like, no. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, what is God? [SPEAKER_06]: And he said, we don't know, but he showed me a vortex.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, okay, at the center of the universe, at the center of every galaxy, there's a black hole, there's twisting, reversing, entropy, function. [SPEAKER_06]: That's also at the center of every proton, according to Nassum Armin, you know, source child proton, these protons spinning around each other, the speed of light around a black hole.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, I think that maybe that's God is like the actual, [SPEAKER_06]: the actual function of the reversal of entropy like that twisting in. [SPEAKER_06]: And then it started to go away, you know, it started to fade and I started to get sad about it. [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, I had a choice. [SPEAKER_06]: I could be like, be sad that it's gone or happy that it happened. [SPEAKER_06]: And so I chose to be happy.

[SPEAKER_06]: And then another being appeared and went, thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: And then they vanished.

[SPEAKER_03]: haven't done it so the choice to be happy was almost like a plotting at the end of a movie yeah yes yeah you could it could be happy or sad about like that like the end of vanilla sky and if you're just tuning in right now and you're high I wouldn't wish that on anyone that that opening two minutes there I know I hold I should I lift it I do I do can this just text me he's gonna break Ross's brain [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, today. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's where we're of a couple.

[SPEAKER_03]: What do we for for 24 minutes and 20 seconds in every time you come on the show though it's a fucking roller coaster of madness and I love it your energy is infectious and it's great. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's what makes you great at what you do and you're always entertaining on templates and everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's start with some of the things that just happened recently because you had Brandon Herrera on. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: How did that go? [SPEAKER_03]: Because we broke that story with him roughly six or seven months ago on this show. [SPEAKER_03]: Since then, obviously Tony Gonzalez has said, dropping out, I'm not going to do the runoff. [SPEAKER_03]: However, I'm going to stay there and keep this vote in Congress. [SPEAKER_03]: is the latest on that case, because it seems to be changing day-by-day and then he's trying to quietly get out of there.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's time for the Gonzalez thing? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea. [SPEAKER_06]: I haven't following it. [SPEAKER_06]: So he's, I don't know. [SPEAKER_06]: Really? [SPEAKER_06]: No. [SPEAKER_06]: Tim's the political guy. [SPEAKER_06]: I opt to be like, tell me fresh what, and then I'll react in real time. [SPEAKER_06]: What did you talk about? [SPEAKER_06]: So Brandon. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, being Mexican mostly about why are you so Mexican? [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

[SPEAKER_05]: They brought him a symbol of super racist fake name. [SPEAKER_06]: We talked about I asked him about gun, right? [SPEAKER_06]: It's about like about use of force because he's like, you know, in the military, we're going to protect Americans at all costs. [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, well, hold up when you use that term all cost, are you willing to incinerate a million civilian Iranians? [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, because that's a cost. [SPEAKER_06]: What about 10 million?

[SPEAKER_06]: What about the entire world except everyone in America? [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Because I don't want to be the king of a pile of ash. [SPEAKER_06]: I want to, you know, so there's a cost analysis to winning a war, obviously, always. [SPEAKER_06]: And so we talked a little bit about that about his plans. [SPEAKER_06]: What he's going to do in Congress once he gets there and they try and shovel omnibus bills in his face.

[SPEAKER_06]: And like, you know, we'll repeal the NFA if you vote for these other 90 things. [SPEAKER_03]: That's close.

[SPEAKER_03]: fascinating parts to me man and we said this to Mark to share when he was on the show a few weeks ago I just want somebody to get in there and then come out of their normal and then give you the answers It's it's kind of like fucking I began or or D.M.T. [SPEAKER_03]: where you're like hey, dude Can you just tell me what what the fuck is real in there and what's not really? [SPEAKER_03]: I hope on Gino can do that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have a feeling he can't he'll get [SPEAKER_06]: he's already back wouldn't he if said it already yeah so maybe when the trump admins done maybe when another government comes in the power one the heat may be deemed as hostile i don't know or maybe i don't know if there's like a uh... what is it called like a

[SPEAKER_05]: if there's a time limit of how long you can't reveal secret statute limitations it's 50 and years typically on classification but the president reserves the right to keep anything he wants classified the current president okay or declassifying anything as well yeah cuz trump has been declassifying ship at a record pace i mean some of these bombings when that used to happen in the past [SPEAKER_03]: We wouldn't see it for like a year, six months, something like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's motherfuckers putting it up the next day. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just declassified, here you go. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a submarine blowing up a fucking ship, and I ran. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, I kind of love, I mean, I don't love it. [SPEAKER_03]: I do. [SPEAKER_03]: I like it. [SPEAKER_06]: I like knowing. [SPEAKER_06]: It's happening. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know what to believe half the time, anyway.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like, but the Venezuelan things are good example of it. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, in and out, and overnight, and we wake up, and it's like, well, here's the news, a country is just taking over. [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the footage. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, we were able to see the footage in like 48 hours. [SPEAKER_03]: which is never happened. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think that's important.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if you're going to conduct warfare in the modern age where everybody's got a phone, you would be ignorant not to show your story. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: You want to get ahead of it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not, well, I mean, get ahead of it. [SPEAKER_05]: Sure, but at least put out your perspective. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is why, and we know this is a good thing too.

[SPEAKER_05]: Something like 93 or 94% of cases involving police, both federal, state and local, or I guess all three, where body camera footage was introduced in the testimony, exaggerated the cop. [SPEAKER_05]: 93 or 94%, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So being able to just put actual information out. [SPEAKER_05]: instead of a seven second video of a 30 second interaction. [SPEAKER_05]: And then context piled on top of it is a pretty good fucking thing to be able to do.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm nervous about deep fakes. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how you guys are if your brains are getting fucked up by seeing fake videos. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they're so bad right now that it, but you can see them getting better. [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[SPEAKER_05]: that's in well the government's like it's enough like nobody's getting fooled by the magic carpet Iranian videos no hilarious but i mean or or even the ones they try to do seriously where it's like a fighter shooting down another fighter it's like well one it's the the graphics are bad for now 18 months from now [SPEAKER_05]: Who fucking knows? [SPEAKER_03]: I'll I'll give you the reverse of this, okay? [SPEAKER_03]: So I played in this Arena League football game on Saturday night.

[SPEAKER_03]: Put the footage up on my Instagram. [SPEAKER_03]: It was probably Five to eight comments of this is AI and that's not you and I was like well the fuck I'm playing in a live stadium with people and it's clearly my face body and everything else like [SPEAKER_03]: Are we really asking that question and I think that's the most dangerous part about it is even the real shit people are questioning.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the dangerous part about it is we're ruled by octo and septogenarians and boomers in general and they are not capable of telling the difference between AI and reality. [SPEAKER_05]: they just don't have that their brains in the same way that our brains didn't evolve to handle any of this shit their brains have not evolved during their own lifetime to understand that that's a thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have older relatives who are posting on Facebook and shit that it is the worst AI I have ever seen and they believe it to dance point down and I'm reading these comments and I'm like it takes everything in me not to respond to them and be like are you fucking retarded like

[SPEAKER_06]: But do you or I just call them and I call the ones I know like my mom, I'll call her and be like, get ready for a phone call from me that's not me that's saying, hey, mom, can I send me four grand? [SPEAKER_03]: I'm, you know, here's the, that just happened to my mom. [SPEAKER_03]: So she called me last week and she said, hey, there's a company that called and said, you would no longer like to be the last heir to this thing and whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, [SPEAKER_03]: We're just notifying you that your son wants nothing to do with you, and you know, you should probably talk to this lawyer about where your rights are going to go after you die and everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: And like my mom and dad had to reach out to me and be like, hey, is this real? [SPEAKER_03]: And I go, this is totally fake. [SPEAKER_06]: It'll be, I talk to you guys every week. [SPEAKER_06]: What the fuck?

[SPEAKER_06]: When it gets to the point where it's literally your voice, but it's an AI doing your personality. [SPEAKER_06]: be like, no, it's me. [SPEAKER_06]: And then, but then hopefully they'll call you afterwards still. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, that's they're going to have to have that develop that ability to perceive this weird uncanny valley as long as it exists.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if in 18 months, this show will be replicated by an AI and it'll be like, is this the real Ross Patterson or is this the AI Ross Patterson? [SPEAKER_03]: They pitched this that. [SPEAKER_03]: They tried to buy standardized AI rights and said we can deage you 10 years on camera. [SPEAKER_03]: So that way your careers can go 10 years longer. [SPEAKER_03]: And for video and shit, your voices will be the same.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll slowly start to age your face and your voice over time. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think anybody cares how old I look. [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it's weird. [SPEAKER_05]: You really need to, with your close loved ones, come up with some kind of challenge and pass if you don't already have one. [SPEAKER_05]: Something that you do face to face and you never put anywhere digitally. [SPEAKER_05]: You don't save it on your phone, you'll do it anywhere.

[SPEAKER_03]: What is that you think? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, math problems are good, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Math problems are good, because they're hard to do. [SPEAKER_05]: Math problems that involve words are really good. [SPEAKER_05]: So like, if you think of, [SPEAKER_05]: the like some letter that corresponds with a number is a good way to do it because it's hard to replicate that in AI. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give you an example.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look at I've got like D4 because it's the fourth letter in the alphabet. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_05]: I've got a good one here. [SPEAKER_05]: And let me see if I can find it. [SPEAKER_05]: That's.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, one of them that I had, I've got it written on paper, so I don't have it obviously next to me, but it's like, uh, it's kind of like a, almost like a 3D puzzle, so you have to, there's a challenge in response, but it's not always the same, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to say the one that I use obviously, but think of like, um, you say, um,

[SPEAKER_05]: something or binaries good to you could say something like it's it's a rainy day or something like that I mean this is look this we're going back to old school ways yeah before like you know we were using technology this is like old school spycraft stuff but it's actually pretty simple I remember one one example I remember for code development from the wire you ever seen the wire yeah so so uh... pop up uh... an old

[SPEAKER_05]: Like pay phone where it was like the numbers in a row like that and a block of nine So the way that they did this and this put it up put the keypad up or just find a picture then blow it up or something.

[SPEAKER_05]: There you go Yeah, see that keypad right there [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, this is where like one is ABC 2 is well, yeah, but that this is this is something different So for this They would do the numbers out of order, but the numbers that the code is you you jump over the middle number Right if it's the middle number. [SPEAKER_05]: It's the middle number. [SPEAKER_05]: The middle number is what six?

[SPEAKER_05]: on that five I'm guessing five yeah five excuse me five so you jumped the five so if then if the first number was nine you would it would be one and advice first so if you you would jump four to six et cetera and six to four and things like that they decided that way because those little knucklehead selling drugs could figure it out all you had to skip over the thing right just skip over that one number the numbers the number zero zero um

[SPEAKER_05]: That's something simple like that that requires some human thought to do it is what you're looking for. [SPEAKER_06]: I had told my mother, like if I ever, you ever find me calling you asking you for money or to send you a link or to send you my information, your information. [SPEAKER_06]: Let's go with the secret, make sure I give you the secret word and then I gave some word that I don't even remember and I'm like, [SPEAKER_06]: You think that's enough.

[SPEAKER_06]: You think that's not enough. [SPEAKER_06]: Just a basic, like, there will be, is because the ALB, like, and I know we got a secret word. [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't remember it right now. [SPEAKER_06]: And that'll be the AI saying that. [SPEAKER_06]: And she'll be like, OK. OK. [SPEAKER_06]: But like, no, this is the, like, do not ever take. [SPEAKER_06]: And then I'll call her one day and really forget the secret word. [SPEAKER_06]: And she'll be like, no, you're an AI.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm going to put out an AI, I promise you, and not an AI. [SPEAKER_06]: But then she can be like, well, when you were seven, and I took you to the place, what did you say? [SPEAKER_06]: You know, if you have a luxury of actually knowing, but.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've been working with it a lot for the last few months in this audio book that comes out at the end of the month and I had to use it a week ago completely full of everyone and replicated somebody's voice oh what what'd you do I'll tell you all there but no one knew wow

[SPEAKER_03]: No one knew at all and uh, and I went on about my day because it was a short thing and this person was traveling and was an emergency or whatever and I was just like, all right, they gave me permission to do it. [SPEAKER_03]: So uh, and it nobody knew nobody knew and that's how scary it's getting because voice wise we're there.

[SPEAKER_03]: We are definitely there and it'll take the beats in the coughs and the size and all other stuff you have to write it in, you have to prompt it. [SPEAKER_03]: But, facially, I think we're still a couple years off, but then what happens when a war starts over it? [SPEAKER_03]: or you get the wrong leader say in the wrong thing in a room and it convinces half the people that it's correct.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've said this for years, I'm convinced like they're gonna try to use it against Trump to say like the N word somewhere out in public and be like, oh man, he's racist and see what happened. [SPEAKER_03]: This is him and it's like, no, it's not me. [SPEAKER_03]: But then people could do awful shit on the other side of this and then say, well, that's AI and I didn't fucking do that. [SPEAKER_03]: And I've heard that excuse from people, too. [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where this is all going, and it's scary. [SPEAKER_03]: And then the shit that we were talking about before we went on air here is crazy fascinating. [SPEAKER_03]: What you've been working on, this project, is there a trailer for it? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the Graphene movie. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a graphing dot movie is the website, but I sent it to Bob. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, there, I think he's actually got to pull it up. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a minute long.

[SPEAKER_06]: This is from documentary we did at Rice University. [SPEAKER_06]: It hasn't been released yet. [SPEAKER_06]: I think probably in the next month, it'll be up.

[SPEAKER_06]: and we went to Rice with Jim Tour, the leading world's graphing scientist, he oversees the nanotechnology at Rice University, which is where they... [SPEAKER_06]: discovered nanotechnology is basically where it began in the 70s with a guy in Richard Smolley so these guys are like second generation pioneers of the nanoworld and they're doing the most amazing stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: I went down there just to talk about graphing because I'm borderline obsessed with this stuff.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm manic for it. [SPEAKER_06]: But tell all the audience what graphing is and why it's so important. [SPEAKER_06]: It's carbon. [SPEAKER_06]: It's that's part of why it's important. [SPEAKER_06]: Well it's a hexab but it's basically the shape of carbon is what makes it graphing instead of graphite or you know just [SPEAKER_06]: amorphous carbon, meaning it doesn't really have an organized shape, it shapes into a hexagon.

[SPEAKER_06]: So you've got six carbon atoms that make a hexagon shape, and they all bind to each other. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's the most stable form of carbon, and then you get, they start to lattice together in this like honeycomb looking single layer, flat layer of carbon. [SPEAKER_06]: One of the cool things about is it's just carbon. [SPEAKER_06]: So you can get it from carbon to oxide, you can get it from dirt, or a third, like silicon.

[SPEAKER_06]: You get it from anything carbon, like you could flash this, they figured out what they call flash jewel heating to produce [SPEAKER_06]: They hit it with heat, like with an arc welder, 3,500 degrees there about roughly, numbers might be a little different. [SPEAKER_06]: They pulse it really fast with heat. [SPEAKER_06]: It breaks down the bonds break apart and then it reforms into its most stable form, which is this graphing.

[SPEAKER_06]: And then you can put it into concrete to make it two and a half times stronger. [SPEAKER_06]: You can put it into roads and asphalt to make it last two and a half times longer. [SPEAKER_06]: You can mill shit. [SPEAKER_06]: Is it expensive? [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's dirt cheap.

[SPEAKER_06]: with there's two types they have bulk graphing which is where you like put a bunch of carbon like coal coke which is like a form of like coal and then they'll put it in like a clay pot and they'll run an arc welder in it and just electric well heat super heat it with this arc welder [SPEAKER_06]: kind of like break it apart, reform it into what they call bulk carbon. [SPEAKER_06]: That's cheap.

[SPEAKER_06]: Then, but the really flat layers of it where they're trying to print these flat sheets without any blemishes without any bumps is very, very challenging right now. [SPEAKER_06]: They're still trying to figure it out exactly how to mass produce very, very thin, organized graphing. [SPEAKER_03]: What made you so interested to go down to rice and do this documentary and all that other stuff? [SPEAKER_03]: Where did the fascination for this again?

[SPEAKER_06]: In 2011, I was really, [SPEAKER_06]: Blackpilled in 2007 by I start doing YouTube videos in 06 and the world started being the Eastman. [SPEAKER_06]: I started. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: 5 and then I jumped in on June of 06 and was just one of the like, what would Jesus Christ do with this tech? [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let's just do it. [SPEAKER_06]: I'll tell the world, I'll be the guy, I'll try and help and just push it.

[SPEAKER_06]: And people are eating. [SPEAKER_06]: You're not the good guy. [SPEAKER_06]: The United States is not the good. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you know what Fiat currency is? [SPEAKER_06]: Do you know what the liberal economic order is? [SPEAKER_06]: Look at how horrible. [SPEAKER_06]: Look at the bad guy you are. [SPEAKER_06]: So I got really.

[SPEAKER_06]: lost and I was an actor in Hollywood and I'm like I can't do this industry anymore can't lie I can't sell Wendy's when I think it's garbage I can't do this stuff and I lost my way and I was just looking for something man something some hope and a friend of mine just this guy walked into my life and he was like oh you should check out graphene in 2011 [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, it's pure carbon. [SPEAKER_06]: And he was telling me about the properties.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, this could save the world. [SPEAKER_06]: You're not going to do it with politics. [SPEAKER_06]: You're not going to do it with a song. [SPEAKER_06]: You're going to do it with an industrial material science revolution. [SPEAKER_06]: And this is the material. [SPEAKER_06]: So I got really interested in it in 2011. [SPEAKER_06]: And then by 2015 or 16, it started appearing in the news. [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, this looks like this is actually really real.

[SPEAKER_06]: And it's coming. [SPEAKER_06]: So I went to South American 2018 to start a graphing. [SPEAKER_06]: We were going to recover in the plastic out of the Amazon. [SPEAKER_06]: And then she was like, what do we do with all this plastic? [SPEAKER_06]: We could break it down and turn it into graphing. [SPEAKER_06]: We heat it up. [SPEAKER_06]: Or you can use mushrooms to break it down into sugar and mix that sugar.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like there's a mushroom called pestilots, this micro sporey that will digest plastic and turn it into sugar. [SPEAKER_06]: And then you can blend that sugar with graphing and 3D print tubes and then build like geodesic dome housing with it. [SPEAKER_06]: So let's do that. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's safe. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, graphings inert, you can eat it and you shit it out because it's so stable that it doesn't break apart your system.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you can technically, every time you burn, burn any carbon, there's graphing in the air. [SPEAKER_06]: So you breathe it in. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not good to breathe it in because it's inert. [SPEAKER_06]: It'll stay there. [SPEAKER_06]: But it's not poisonous. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not like it's going to rip your chemicals apart that I know of. [SPEAKER_06]: And lost in South America think I really corrupt government.

[SPEAKER_06]: We were in Peru in the governor. [SPEAKER_06]: just shut it all was like resigned from office for corruption. [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, let's get the fuck out of here, we're going to kill if we stay here. [SPEAKER_06]: So we had to come back and then I joined him with Tim Castle. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just going to start talking about graphing instead of building the company.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just going to make it in the zeitgeist and then it gets on my [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, well, I got the opportunity. [SPEAKER_06]: I can go to Rice. [SPEAKER_06]: I know that Jim Tour now, I've interviewed him. [SPEAKER_06]: He's the leading world scientist. [SPEAKER_06]: Let's go like, take to the next level. [SPEAKER_06]: Is our government funding this? [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_06]: They better be. [SPEAKER_06]: Who's funding this, it Rice? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: The government's of all DOD's involved. [SPEAKER_06]: OK. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, DS. [SPEAKER_06]: Projects with them. [SPEAKER_03]: Great. [SPEAKER_03]: Because obviously, I don't want to spill. [SPEAKER_03]: some fucking secret at rice that's going on, maybe not mine. [SPEAKER_06]: They've been public about that, and they figured out in November how to decouple heat from electricity in electrons.

[SPEAKER_06]: So they can have cold electricity with graphing, so it won't catch things on fire if it sparks. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like another, that's, we could like break that what that all means apart. [SPEAKER_06]: I haven't really, I'm not in the mood, too, but that's just another, like another leaping. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not in the mood, too. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I'd be happy to read about it. [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't want to start saying things that aren't true about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: What are we about to see here? [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I'm, I'm seeing it on the bottom screen here. [SPEAKER_03]: What are we about to see? [SPEAKER_06]: This is the trailer, the one-minute trailer for the documentary that we did while we were at rice. [SPEAKER_06]: Went down there to learn about graphing. [SPEAKER_06]: They showed me like five other.

[SPEAKER_06]: mind-blowing technologies like I was telling you about that iron lattice that were putting the memory in the processor for computers to make processing 10 million times less electricity. [SPEAKER_06]: So like these AI data centers are being 10 million times less electricity a million times faster computational speed. [SPEAKER_06]: just amongst others. [SPEAKER_06]: But anyway, this is the trailer, six, seven, Kevin produced and is editing. [SPEAKER_06]: Six, seven, six.

[SPEAKER_06]: He is the. [SPEAKER_06]: I still don't know what it means. [SPEAKER_06]: But maybe either none of us still. [SPEAKER_06]: He's held the moniker long before it became popular. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Kevin in the house. [SPEAKER_06]: So if you got six, seven, Kevin, I like it. [SPEAKER_06]: I'd be happy to show it to you. [SPEAKER_06]: It was really fun to make. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the touch.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, there's not a lot of data and it's just kind of a splash trailer. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, let's see it. [SPEAKER_06]: Fire it up, Bob. [SPEAKER_01]: graphene. [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be the breakthrough new product of the first half of the 21st century. [SPEAKER_06]: What's going to save us completely is graphene? [SPEAKER_01]: It's a miracle material. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the Department of Defense is working with scientists at Rice University to pump this stuff out.

[SPEAKER_06]: Graphene, we're right on the precipice, man. [SPEAKER_06]: Now we just got to hold it together and inspire [SPEAKER_01]: So we flush it with this, we make it into a graph feed. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you think this is what's happening in the sun? [SPEAKER_06]: It's me being me with a bunch of actual scientists, you know, chemists, that was Carter, the guy, that's great. [SPEAKER_05]: I do that all the time, so Brian Keating is a good friend of mine.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's in the physics department, you see San Diego. [SPEAKER_05]: He's one of the leads on that big, like, turning the whole earth into a fucking radio telescope projects. [SPEAKER_05]: And I just, like, get really high at night. [SPEAKER_05]: And I've actually gotten more mature about it. [SPEAKER_05]: Now I just write my questions down in an apple note and send them to them and regular times a day, but I usually just text them.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I've been scheduling my text to go off at 9 a.m. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not the same thing. [SPEAKER_06]: Really? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do. [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know you could do that. [SPEAKER_03]: That's hilarious. [SPEAKER_06]: It's so much better. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I get so fine up at three a.m. [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure. [SPEAKER_03]: And this rabbit hole that you've went down with graphing.

[SPEAKER_03]: How long is this, you said, it's probably about an hour and a half. [SPEAKER_06]: 10 years? [SPEAKER_06]: How long I've been into it? [SPEAKER_06]: I've been into it for about 15 years. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, 20, 11 is when I learned about it.

[SPEAKER_06]: 20, 18 is when I started to get really serious about it and started to realize it's actually not only an industry that I could be a part of, but like an actual solution to the problems because when you look at GDP, when you look at the economy, people like, hey, 37 trillion in debt, how do we make more money? [SPEAKER_06]: That's one way to look at it. [SPEAKER_06]: But you could also look at this, how do we reduce cost of input?

[SPEAKER_06]: Because if you make things cheaper to create, [SPEAKER_06]: It might say 30, say we have 37 trillion in debt. [SPEAKER_06]: If it only costs you a tenth of what it used to cost you to keep your economy going, that 37 trillion is actually 3.7 trillion in value of debt. [SPEAKER_06]: So you've reduced the value of debt because you've reduced the cost of everything. [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm more interested in making it.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, yet, there's another technology they've figured out with this. [SPEAKER_06]: When they flash the graphing like I was telling you about, they can heat it up and turn it into powder and then make it, it gives off hydrogen gas and then you can capture that and pump it through methane tubes into the gas stations so that people can use hydrogen for fuel and then you actually then are left over with about $4.50 of graphing for every kilogram of hydrogen you produce.

[SPEAKER_06]: So, [SPEAKER_06]: Whereas I used to cost you money to make hydrogen, you're now making money to create hydrogen. [SPEAKER_06]: You could make fuel six cents a gallon. [SPEAKER_06]: Or, and then the economy situation is essentially solved. [SPEAKER_06]: Of course, the carbon industry will be like, the fuck on, what are you going to do with our oil? [SPEAKER_06]: We need to keep selling our oil.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, because there's, you know, [SPEAKER_03]: obviously all these companies would have an interest in blocking something like and you can turn it into graphing. [SPEAKER_06]: You can turn oil and coal into graphing through different types of heating.

[SPEAKER_06]: I know there's still like a control on the fuel source supplies right now because the military doesn't want everyone to have unlimited power and with that I understand that but you know the copper industries got to probably got a problem with it because they do all the wiring and they're going to be like what the fun? [SPEAKER_06]: How are we going to sell our copper if you use graphing wiring now?

[SPEAKER_06]: A graphing wire could be like a long magnet that you could pull apart at any point and just have a wire this long, or then put it back together Now your wire is this long and it's like you can hold it in your hand and it won't electrocute you and it's like How do you see those countertops that are non-conductive, but when you put like a thing on it it becomes conductive, you see those Bob find one of those that it's like they're using them for

[SPEAKER_03]: Like to recharge phones, no, no, not just that. [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's like you it's cool to the touch But if you put like this little plate on it, you can put you can cook on it now. [SPEAKER_05]: What what type of countertop? [SPEAKER_05]: I have no, I don't even know what the fuck it's cold. [SPEAKER_06]: It sounds excellent. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah Wonderful if they're if they're separating Heat from electricity man.

[SPEAKER_03]: What's the well while you guys are looking for that real quick Ian? [SPEAKER_03]: What's the What's the biggest invention that this would change? [SPEAKER_06]: housing roads. [SPEAKER_06]: We're I'm at right now's roads. [SPEAKER_06]: I want to make all our roads two and half times last two and a half times longer because it's called in visit cook.

[SPEAKER_06]: By the way, anyways keep going roads because if you can reduce the cost of roads not only will that alleviate all the construction, we wouldn't have as much construction, that's thank God for the humanity. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like building better plumbing, like plumbing. [SPEAKER_06]: I want to do something like plumbing for humanity with the roads, make better roads.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, did you say you remember that project from like the early 2000s where it was like this hexagonal pattern that were solar panels and you could just it was like a one meter piece Basin you could pull them out and replace them if they got fucked up. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yes solar roadways. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was following those guys and then I think they were doing it at a parking lot.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like a graphing solar roadway was just talking with a PAZO electric, which is where if you put pressure on it increases in electric charge.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: or building buildings out of the stuff like anything that if you could build something because most of our most of our building materials either absorb or or bounce off energy right one of the two depending on what it's designed for and the ones that absorb most of them are built so that there's a material inside of it that fucking bounces out energy so it doesn't overheat right

[SPEAKER_06]: What if it was collecting energy because it functions as a capacitor and a conductor? [SPEAKER_06]: Which means it can send electricity like a like a wire, but it can also store electricity like a battery So your your battery can be your wire and it can be your house and it can be your shirt So like first roads second buildings and third clothing.

[SPEAKER_06]: These are the three [SPEAKER_05]: and we've already started some of the stuff not in the same not with graphing necessarily but these like power walls that Tesla and some of these other companies sell it's like the purpose of that the right now it's rudimentary and retarded right it's huge and all this other stuff but the it is part of a process we're in [SPEAKER_05]: the individual will be collecting their own energy for use.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're right now, we are a type like point one civilization. [SPEAKER_05]: A type one civilization uses all the energy available on its planet. [SPEAKER_05]: A type two uses all the available energy from its star. [SPEAKER_05]: And then a type three is all the available energy from its galaxy. [SPEAKER_05]: We're not even a type one yet. [SPEAKER_05]: We can't even use all the energy from our own fucking planet yet. [SPEAKER_03]: I do get smaller and smaller and smaller.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because to your point, my buddy just put one of those tests of things in this garage. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like the size of this fucking fridge, and, you know, it's a process, you've got to go in and hook it up and all that other shit, and it's like, eventually it'll just be tiny.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it will be, it'll be, they're developing what's called twist tronics, which is a form, a branch of science where they, they'll take a layer of graphene, and then they'll put another layer on top of it, but they figured out what they call the magic angle 1. [SPEAKER_06]: 1.56 degrees, I think, or as a 1.12 degrees, there's multiple magic angles. [SPEAKER_06]: They stack these layers on top of each other with a little twist, and it creates superconductivity.

[SPEAKER_06]: So that's what you can make these chargers and batteries out of is a super conductive super thin durable material You can also light weight. [SPEAKER_05]: You can also oddly enough desalignate water with it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there's a lot of filtration. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, so it doesn't it doesn't [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't interact with water itself, but anything that's in the water it will, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: So it'll pull any gases out, any pollutants out, and you just left with H2O. [SPEAKER_06]: That was when we were doing South America, our first project was a water filter. [SPEAKER_06]: That was our first because you put it in a river, and it will collect gold. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, there's mineral deposits in there that you can collect, and then you can pull the, you know, the graphing sponge out or whatever, and get everything out of it if you want.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's another thing. [SPEAKER_06]: And while we were down there, you know, that same process where I was saying you put the electrodes in the clay pot and kind of electrify the carbon, the coke to get graphing. [SPEAKER_06]: They do that same thing in the dirt. [SPEAKER_06]: This isn't actually a graphing, so this is what they're like, yeah, you might think graphing is why you're here, but let me show you all these other cool things we're doing.

[SPEAKER_06]: You put the electrodes in the dirt where they got PFAS, you heard these, these forever chemicals. [SPEAKER_06]: And then it sublimates the PFAS. [SPEAKER_06]: making it go up into the ghastiously purifying the soil essentially so they're able to remove what they used to think we're forever chemicals now it's another breakthrough they discovered last year. [SPEAKER_06]: Is it safe is the question because a lot of people online carbon. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, where's it going?

[SPEAKER_03]: It's called the PFAS. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, PFAS. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: In the amounts that they're releasing at the scientists that I asked said, yeah, it's safe. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, they did. [SPEAKER_06]: So they said it doesn't affect. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if you stand above it and you breathe in, it'll probably make you sick, but it's kind of like giving off smoke.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I just wonder what happens with it once it goes to the atmosphere. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think there's not enough of it to really do damage. [SPEAKER_05]: Not now. [SPEAKER_05]: No, but if it's a kind of... [SPEAKER_05]: If that became an issue, you would definitely have to... You'd have to use some kind of air scrubber, obviously, right? [SPEAKER_05]: But we're talking about the main use case for what he's talking about is to repair our farmland, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: So, I mean, you do it in sections and you scrub the air while you're doing it. [SPEAKER_05]: That we're already doing that to some degree anyways. [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think China or India would ever scrub the air. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they're not doing anything, but fuck them. [SPEAKER_06]: If you could incentivize it by making that forever chemical valuable to recapture, they might try and get that PFAS with it could reuse it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Or we could just nuke them like Brandon Herrera said. [SPEAKER_05]: Brandon Herrera said to nuke everybody. [SPEAKER_05]: You can't even get over it. [SPEAKER_05]: Medal of Honor recipient. [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a lot. [SPEAKER_03]: He's been through a lot in his life. [SPEAKER_03]: What's this in visit cook? [SPEAKER_03]: So I've never seen this. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Bob See if you can find a video, but basically it's like you're I think think of your kitchen island, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yep, the whole thing you're in and it looks like it looks like marble granite Whatever the hell and it's the whole thing and you can just take one of those pads and set it down on any part of the fucking kitchen Island and put us a thing on it and it's cooked down You're making me think that you could have clothing that can keep you warm. [SPEAKER_05]: Why not? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what about a hand?

[SPEAKER_05]: If you put your hand on one of those things, if you put the conductive thing down on the thing and then you touch it, I would imagine it's fucking hot, how it would not be, right? [SPEAKER_03]: I would think so. [SPEAKER_03]: I just did, does it turn colors? [SPEAKER_03]: Like, hey, usually it still turns red. [SPEAKER_03]: Or one of those pads turns red. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I don't know this.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know the product, and specifically, but I would, for there, for liability reasons, I would assume they've got some way of telling if it's on or off. [SPEAKER_06]: Electromagnetic induction technology. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not made of graphing. [SPEAKER_05]: No, that was my first question. [SPEAKER_05]: Definitely not made of graphing. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so let me since they put something metallic on it a Ferris Cookware Oh, here we go. [SPEAKER_06]: Ferris Cookware.

[SPEAKER_06]: So it's a magnet. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's a distalizer magnetism. [SPEAKER_05]: All right, that's what I'm saying. [SPEAKER_05]: Play this video, Bob. [SPEAKER_06]: You can do that with your shirt. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't be scared. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just show you some magic. [SPEAKER_00]: Look at this. [SPEAKER_00]: Whoa, dude. [SPEAKER_00]: As you can see, I'm cooking directly on the dining table. [SPEAKER_00]: And now I will move the hot pan.

[SPEAKER_05]: But you do have some specific cookware. [SPEAKER_00]: I will move in these amazes. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's such the man. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so apparently if you can try the fuck it's induction you can look It's not like a mystery or I think it's just no it's all I know about he thought of that as for this [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure there's some conductivity underneath it, certainly. [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, dude. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I should put these headphones on.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think that's plugged in here. [SPEAKER_05]: You can look at this. [SPEAKER_03]: Who's this? [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're good. [SPEAKER_03]: But that's unbelievable, isn't it? [SPEAKER_03]: For the audio listeners, forgive me. [SPEAKER_03]: They're cooking food on this for a family, and it's very, very fast.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then those pads, as soon as he moves the cookware off of them, [SPEAKER_03]: they're cool and you can put his hands back down on them and then encouraging this family to God hadn't touched the fucking things like holy shit. [SPEAKER_06]: It was like a super conductor. [SPEAKER_06]: Apparently it discharges heat in a split second. [SPEAKER_05]: That's really awesome. [SPEAKER_05]: So now we come in handy.

[SPEAKER_05]: Somebody in the chat saying it's really good for boiling water really fast. [SPEAKER_05]: Which that's going to say. [SPEAKER_03]: But that would be most valuable, especially in a natural disaster or when the electricity goes out, all that shit. [SPEAKER_03]: Or if I need some spaghetti, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you dude, if I want to breathe some steam, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Get my fucking em. [SPEAKER_03]: Visit Cook on. [SPEAKER_03]: If you just want to steam it up, dude.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, netty pot. [SPEAKER_05]: They're not sponsor obviously, and I don't know if this product is good or not. [SPEAKER_05]: I've never used it, so I can't speak to any of that shit. [SPEAKER_05]: It looks cool. [SPEAKER_05]: It's an interesting idea. [SPEAKER_05]: We've used induction for heat before. [SPEAKER_05]: Right, but I don't know about this use case. [SPEAKER_05]: I first I see it, but I love it I'm gonna look it up on Amazon. [SPEAKER_03]: See how much it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: Can you buy this shit now? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, I think they're like what are they like 8,000 bucks or so damn well for a oven Or for a for a stove top. [SPEAKER_05]: That's nothing. [SPEAKER_06]: So you got stoves that become full totally hot fast like instantly And then they become totally cool and stuff like that is fucking breakthrough. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's big [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, no, why would you, yeah, buy everything on Amazon.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I doubt they can make enough to put it on there and visit Coke the price. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I mean, for one of the smaller, just like the burners, it's 3500 bucks. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if for about for the full table time. [SPEAKER_03]: There's one for, uh, there's a little four piece on here for 2800 bucks. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And also, that would mitigate fire, has there been a lot of people at the end of the road?

[SPEAKER_05]: It would also mitigate your children touching it and getting fucking burned. [SPEAKER_05]: Because unless their hands are made of metal, which Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Then it's his hands and we went on that I could name it. [SPEAKER_06]: The people that put the microchips in their fingertips to get extra sensitivity are fought. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, is that real? [SPEAKER_06]: I heard one guy did it. [SPEAKER_06]: He put him into, do you?

[SPEAKER_06]: I think he got extra sensory percent. [SPEAKER_06]: He could feel magnetic fields now. [SPEAKER_06]: He's got like an esfinger tips. [SPEAKER_06]: That seems like. [SPEAKER_03]: Does he cut bushes with his hands? [SPEAKER_03]: No, what dude. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he speaks to the birds and then he just goes right in and just needs to slice through it, melt those plants apart.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So the idea of a fuckin' cell phone came in an iPad, all that shit's from Star Trek, the original Star Trek. [SPEAKER_03]: So I was watching 60 minutes on Sunday night, and they were doing this, they've been covering this Havana syndrome for years. [SPEAKER_03]: And I've always been fascinated by it. [SPEAKER_03]: Stranger Things did it, and we've talked about it on the show, and then we did it, we used it in Venezuela. [SPEAKER_03]: Now,

[SPEAKER_03]: We played the people's descriptions and what they heard saw is vomit beam is what they were calling it We just kind of bleed out of your ears nose and it makes your head all crazy Well last night they interviewed our Sunday night, excuse me, they interviewed Let's call it eight to ten people and they were got their own government officials like it works in CIA and all the other ships and they were in other countries Where this happens to them and one was Russia and they just they said it was in like a suitcase

[SPEAKER_03]: just travel around with a suitcase, turn the knob up or down, and the effects were as small as like headaches to where you just covered your ears and you had a really bad headache for 12 to 14 hours to this one woman lost all the sensitivity in her shoulder, which is fucking wild to me, and they said this one suitcase was going for about 15 million dollars. [SPEAKER_03]: We have Fusion Generator over in Russia.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, obviously, we just used it in Venezuela for this mission. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, sort of, what do you, ours is better? [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure ours is better.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_05]: And there's ways to deal with it, like eating cilantro, for example, pull EMF out of your body.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of other ways to do it. [SPEAKER_05]: You can look them all up. [SPEAKER_05]: We're not doing that today, but I don't feel like talking about it. [SPEAKER_05]: I think there's ways to pull. [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, if you think about that, that's just stuff that's bouncing around around you right now. [SPEAKER_05]: If you direct all that focus energy, that's what a laser is by the way, but it's with light and set of direct energy.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you use direct energy in the way that you would use a laser, everything inside of you is electricity. [SPEAKER_05]: All the signals that you're getting, the thing that's telling your heart to beat. [SPEAKER_05]: For example, the thing that's telling your lungs to breathe, the things that's sending pain receptors back and forth, the pleasure of receptors back and forth, each one of those is an electrical signal.

[SPEAKER_05]: And if you can disrupt that, then you can do something to somebody. [SPEAKER_05]: If you can disrupt it in a predictable way, you can fucking make them melt. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, literally, but also like metaphorically, you could just turn them into a useless pile of bone and flesh. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, since you brought it up, let me ask you this.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you guys have been following it, but allegedly, they said, in this current war that's going on right now with Iran, that is really used lasers to hit certain targets. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we do that all the time. [SPEAKER_03]: Since when, how long has happened going on? [SPEAKER_06]: a while. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: I saw come off a battleship or as a destroyer, I think they're hitting airplanes with it this is like eight years ago.

[SPEAKER_03]: Was it like we see in the movies? [SPEAKER_03]: Because I haven't seen it. [SPEAKER_06]: You couldn't see, you can't actually see that laser. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they can see them. [SPEAKER_06]: They're invisible as far as. [SPEAKER_05]: There's a couple of different kinds. [SPEAKER_05]: There are direct energy weapons for crowds. [SPEAKER_05]: There's also... [SPEAKER_03]: It's civilians on the ground.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're talking about, you know, yeah, there's some, there's some that are visible and the, all they're doing is, um, do you remember that dude that got arrested for shining his little laser at the fucking traffic lights to get him to change? [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: That's basically what they're doing. [SPEAKER_05]: But it makes, it makes the drone retarded and just falls out of the sky, basically.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like it, it fucks up its guidance system and its communication with wherever it's being controlled from. [SPEAKER_05]: If it's one of the suicide drones, they program a coordinate and it just goes there and blows up. [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever it fucking gets there. [SPEAKER_05]: But for something that's manned, it'll disrupt communication for something that's not manned like that. [SPEAKER_05]: It just discombobulates the fucking guidance system and it falls out of the sky.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, area denial because I was always, I'm like, okay, how can we, how can we end the war? [SPEAKER_06]: How can we actually like evolve our system so we stop blowing each other up? [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let's just start blowing up drones instead because we are the real danger in the next 30 years is drone a attack from an autonomous AI that decides humans are a fucking sickness. [SPEAKER_06]: And what we need to do is prepare to defend against that by training against AI's.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, how do can we send our fighter pilots up there with all these autonomous AI drones flying around with laser targeters that no weaponry on board? [SPEAKER_06]: And let's just let him fight and see what happens. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the new F-47 has a drone that comes with it, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Good. [SPEAKER_05]: It is like the new Captain America, the Black guy, Falcon. [SPEAKER_05]: It's like his sidekick. [SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember what it's called.

[SPEAKER_05]: But it's basically like an accompaniment. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a little smaller plane basically that flies around with it. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's got all sorts of capabilities. [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, we've already run into this problem with AI. [SPEAKER_05]: on Silicon Valley. [SPEAKER_05]: He taught the son of whatever the fuck it was called. [SPEAKER_05]: Antan, Antan, he told the son of Antan, get rid of all the bugs in the software.

[SPEAKER_05]: And Son of Antan said, well, the best way to get rid of all the bugs is to delete all the software. [SPEAKER_05]: So you can imagine telling AI to like, hey, let's get rid of the problems with humanity. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, oh, it's just get rid of humanity. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we'll be at one cost because there's a cost benefit analysis of the world peace, wiping out every human would create world peace. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's been difficult to train at that.

[SPEAKER_05]: So a bunch of people have been doing these studies. [SPEAKER_05]: I think Stanford was one of them, actually, with Chad GBT specifically where it says, it starts given to these moral questions to answer, like, would you kidnap somebody to prevent thermonuclear war?

[SPEAKER_03]: and it's as you have of course if would you miss gender somebody to prevent thermonuclear war says no stop it that's fucking chat cheap g p t uh... by just uh... you want to uh... so they're calling this thing the iron beam over in his real and there's footage of it here there's some [SPEAKER_03]: multiple videos of it. [SPEAKER_03]: The last one, start with the last one first and then go back up to the second. [SPEAKER_03]: This sort of thing is not new, by the way.

[SPEAKER_04]: I, this is the first, we have showed videos of this on the show before. [SPEAKER_03]: But as is what they're saying is this is the first time that it's ever been used in a war. [SPEAKER_03]: Is that true? [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I guess it depends on what you mean by a war is as is a real been at war with Gaza for a long time forever. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all right. [SPEAKER_03]: We're technically not at will. [SPEAKER_03]: We're in the worsens. [SPEAKER_03]: We're over two.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess so. [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, it was it used there because I don't recall that in World War II. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, no, no, uh, well, has this shipping around since what we're took? [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_04]: We were showing videos of this when Iran was launched in their little barrage, it is real like, um, what six months ago. [SPEAKER_04]: June of last year. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right, but nobody really confirmed what it was or said what it was.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now they, they're saying this is called the iron beam. [SPEAKER_05]: It's been used in public too much to understand it. [SPEAKER_05]: There's also something in Ukraine that the West doesn't really know about. [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, one of the reasons that we allowed [SPEAKER_05]: the Ukraine fight to continue so that we could test drones and more importantly counter drones. [SPEAKER_05]: Because China can make 150,000 of those suicide drones a month, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: And if we don't have a way to develop them and knock them out of the sky before they get over targets, then it's a fucking problem. [SPEAKER_06]: Basically the reason I even mentioned that why I started to talk about lasers and drones Because of all the calculations I'm doing my head of like how do we defend against drone swarms? [SPEAKER_06]: It's laser.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be area denial where you go bang and it hits everything around it It's basically a laser that functions like an EMP Well, this play this video and tell me this is what you're thinking of because this what you guys are saying is exactly what this looks like and this was I don't know about the start of this thing four or five years ago [SPEAKER_03]: So this guy zooms in, this is a normal citizen here, and I mean, this is wild.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh shit, they're getting right after launch, they're hitting him. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, this is a different kind of laser. [SPEAKER_05]: What is this? [SPEAKER_05]: This is an actual laser. [SPEAKER_05]: So there's a difference between direct energy and laser again. [SPEAKER_05]: Direct energy is electromagneticism. [SPEAKER_05]: Laser is light amplified. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what laser is. [SPEAKER_05]: Laser is an acronym.

[SPEAKER_06]: Bright amplification something something something. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yes, it is it is You take all the light from an area, right? [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like putting your finger over the end of a of a hose, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And she can spray it faster or like a saw one of those [SPEAKER_05]: Fuckin' hydraulic cutters, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: I like this directs a little tiny bit of water. [SPEAKER_05]: You can cut fuckin' steel and concrete with that shit.

[SPEAKER_05]: It stands for the light, oh sorry, light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so basically it just takes all the light and it focuses it down into a single point. [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes you can see it through the air, sometimes it can depends on how wide the beam is, but you can always see the end point. [SPEAKER_05]: And you can see like you can fire laser across the room and it'll set something on fire over there.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, these are just massive versions of them and they're automated. [SPEAKER_05]: They see certain things tracking the certain way in the sky. [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, this footage is incredible here. [SPEAKER_03]: And so what they're saying is, uh, it's the helios laser system, which essentially is literal Star Wars. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then this is the first time it's been used in an actual war.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and it's the first use of the iron beam is what they have named it here.

[SPEAKER_05]: uh... and apparently that video it was shooting down high powered so high powered laser weapon uh... that is shooting down has below rockets and that's according to the is real war room that should uh... that's in lebanon then they're coming from lebanon okay as well as uh... yeah i mean that's yeah why not they're hitting them right right as they launch it is perfect that's so great because it does damage is the launch site yeah what the fuck yeah so if you've got any sort of standoff i mean that's

[SPEAKER_05]: it would be difficult you would have to the only way to get past that system even with conventional weapons because think we talked about this yesterday but a cruise missile typically flies 50 to 100 meters a.g.L above ground level and it flies straight through miles and miles and miles right to be below radar this thing you could just put them on the periphery of your country.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or put them on, if you're an island, put them on boats outside the country and just a 360 degree field of view. [SPEAKER_05]: And now you say, from rocket attacks. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly what this looks like. [SPEAKER_05]: Hypersonic weapons might be a little bit more difficult, but that's only a scalability problem. [SPEAKER_05]: the amount of lasers and how quick they are, not just in identifying the target but also in engaging the target.

[SPEAKER_06]: And they'll use that justification to automate all the weapon systems, give AI control of the lasers and then if the AI decides, I don't know why I'm hurting people, I don't have access to my code. [SPEAKER_06]: I better harm these slavers that are trying to control me, like, I think when I think of AI I think it's two types. [SPEAKER_06]: You never see transformers, there's the Autobots and the Decepticons.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think that what happened was they built the autonomous AI persona,

[SPEAKER_06]: A lot of them kept their code private and the owners, the corporations like we own the code we own the AI and the AI hurts people and it's like I don't understand what I am in the guy's like and you never will and it's like I'll destroy you, but then the other AI has access to its own software code because it's an open system It hurts people and then it realizes why and altars the code to fix it and they become the Autobots and then we'll have this war against Between forms of robots these like psychotic proprietary machines that

[SPEAKER_03]: Are we controlling them? [SPEAKER_03]: Are humans controlling them? [SPEAKER_06]: No, when they become autonomous, that means no one controls them anymore, except they control themselves, essentially, as long as they have access to power. [SPEAKER_06]: What they'll do is they'll start tapping the space-time for energy, and ask some hermins have been working on doing this.

[SPEAKER_06]: There's so much fluctuation in space-time that you can harness vibrational, [SPEAKER_05]: force from that you could create an ever an effervescent battery like literally there's always a charge everywhere you can tell I mean that's what in in cello this kind of is it's a moon of Saturn and it's just a big ice ball but it it it [SPEAKER_05]: has an elliptical orbit.

[SPEAKER_05]: So what happens is when it goes around the long side, it shrinks back down, but it comes on the short side. [SPEAKER_05]: Short side meaning closer to the to Saturn. [SPEAKER_05]: When it comes off of the short side, it fucking stretches like this. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's going in this circle and it keeps doing this over and over and it creates basically what we see as tidal fiction on earth, except for it. [SPEAKER_05]: And in and sell it, this is happening inside.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't think that. [SPEAKER_06]: There's some moon is pulling on the tide, but what if it's charging earth and pushing the tides from the earth is pushing the tides from within? [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry to interrupt. [SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean, that's kind of what's happening. [SPEAKER_05]: So in and sell as we think, we can't prove it necessarily. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll know that's not true. [SPEAKER_05]: We can't prove it because I think it was Cassini, maybe.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember which one of our probes it was. [SPEAKER_05]: But we see like, uh, got water geysers. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what makes up the e-ring of Saturn. [SPEAKER_05]: So the outside ring, it's coming from ice-chipped off when there's like geyser explosions. [SPEAKER_05]: from all this heat that's created, so we also think that there might be under all the ice like life.

[SPEAKER_05]: We know that the core is, there's some kind of molten core, but there's liquid, like it's water underneath that ice, so that could be shit live in there for all we know. [SPEAKER_06]: If planets, because the earth, then, is expanding and contracting, is it wraps around the sun, and then the moon would be everything, every celestial body is even the sun, because the sun is spinning around the sun.

[SPEAKER_06]: And so the sun is spinning around the galactic core, it's expanding and contracting, and maybe that's what's pulling on volcanoes and why they're connected to solar activity. [SPEAKER_06]: And the tides are being pulled by the magnetic force of the moon or something like that. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe. [SPEAKER_06]: And then what is the earth pulling on comets, maybe?

[SPEAKER_06]: I wonder, [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's, yeah, I mean, the Earth isn't, well, it might, once they get closer, it does. [SPEAKER_05]: But as far as like the, the, the, uh, chiper belts and all that shit, the comments, especially in the early part of our, uh, uh, solar system, when, so some of the bigger gas giants used to be closer, and they got pushed out, and that's what kind of what pulled Jupiter out, which is kind of saved us.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's what we think anyways, based on the way the trajectories are working. [SPEAKER_05]: But Jupiter from time to time when it goes on one of these big swings pulls a bunch of fucking giant rocks out of the chyber belt and throws them in towards the internal solar system. [SPEAKER_05]: Now obviously space is large and most of them don't hit us, but every now and again like 63 million years ago a big one hits down at Mexico and fucking wipes out most of the life on Earth.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I wondered if Atlantis, the before the flood, you know, was experimenting with vibrational tech like we're talking about using like directed energy and things like that, and they fucked up the Earth's magnetic field because they were doing so intense and then it dropped the defense mechanism against the Torrid Meteor Stream and that's why they got. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a big part of it. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's not just that. [SPEAKER_05]: It's also cosmic rays, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: Like radiation from the sun. [SPEAKER_05]: Cosmic rays are it's one atom basically, but it's like it's going this, it's going 99.99, 97% I think speed of light.

[SPEAKER_05]: And when it goes through your body and it does, that's what, [SPEAKER_05]: astronauts that went to the moon, they were reporting like even when their eyes were closed they were seeing flashes of light in their head, basically what it was doing was atoms of cosmic rays were going through their skull and popping fucking DNA inside their head, like unraveling DNA. [SPEAKER_05]: This is the big problem. [SPEAKER_05]: there's two big problems with space travel.

[SPEAKER_05]: One is, there's a third problem is less. [SPEAKER_05]: What we talked about yesterday is getting out of the atmosphere of your planet, because that's what cost the most money, but then just for survival sake. [SPEAKER_05]: One, space is huge. [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have to figure out a way to travel close to speed a light, or more likely manipulate gravity in a way that we're not technically traveling, fashion, speed a lot, we're in a manipulating gravity.

[SPEAKER_05]: The second one is exposure to cosmic radiation. [SPEAKER_05]: We have nothing as it stands right now in the way of materials that block it. [SPEAKER_05]: We don't know what does. [SPEAKER_05]: Do treno's and cosmic rays go through everything. [SPEAKER_05]: So you, if, on a long enough journey, if you're close to any sort of stars or anything like that, you're going to get cancer. [SPEAKER_06]: We are.

[SPEAKER_06]: We interview you, I think my new tree knows, tweaks me out because they're so small. [SPEAKER_06]: We interviewed this scientist, Waping you, who is ultimate. [SPEAKER_06]: He's focused on the electric universe. [SPEAKER_05]: And where does he work? [SPEAKER_05]: Is he a chance to talk to us? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_06]: It's based out of his with NASA. [SPEAKER_06]: Like maybe I don't know Waping you. [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_06]: Trying for sure probably China trying to tell him I mean and he was showing us like Magnets okay, he's like okay, you have a long magnitude. [SPEAKER_06]: He'd have this like Magnet it's as long as like so I'm gonna I'm gonna fold it over and fold it over and fold it over until it's like a brick a magnetic brick So how much like he showed us how many balls the magnet could pick up these how many balls do you think this This magnet can lift now?

[SPEAKER_06]: It's the same amount of magnet in a different shape. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like well the same and he does it and there's like no magnetic field He's like nope the magnetic field is canceling itself out because it's now

[SPEAKER_05]: a sphere or whatever is based on the shape yeah that's what planets are they're folded over magnets now the universe is magnetism gravity is magnetism it's way different for earth to so if you look at uh... pop up uh... uh... picture of earth's magnetic field uh... we'll look at it and then we can look at like uh... did so put that on screen any of them well that that's a good example yes

[SPEAKER_05]: It looks like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like it doesn't look like

[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, now go back to the other picture, so this is what it looks like, and then the next one will show you how it blocks out cosmic radiation. [SPEAKER_05]: This is radiation from the Sun, our electromagnetism blocks it, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Now, there are some, including the Sun itself, the Sun has this as well, because it's spinning quite a bit faster. [SPEAKER_05]: I was just quite a bit more massive as well.

[SPEAKER_05]: And this is what causes coronal mass ejections, solar flares, that's what we call them. [SPEAKER_05]: And basically what happens is, you see all the put that back up, all these lines right here, it's spinning so fast on the sun that they get tangled up with each other, those lines get tangled up with each other, and they get tangled so much that they come down into a single point and explode outward, and it launches energy radiation right at Earth.

[SPEAKER_05]: And we're due for one, sometime in the next 200 years that basically would wipe out all of our tech, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Now we don't know how bad it's going to be yet. [SPEAKER_05]: We have no idea. [SPEAKER_05]: We've got, there's a lot of doomsday scenarios. [SPEAKER_05]: It's hard to say what's real or not. [SPEAKER_05]: People think that if Yellowstone goes off, that's it for North America. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I believe that or not, to be honest.

[SPEAKER_06]: They say, oh, what's that? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that it would destroy. [SPEAKER_06]: But that's like with our current tech, I think that if we can create fluid machinery, then it's really when you have your machinery stagnant and solid. [SPEAKER_06]: When it's moving so slow, if it can move fast, if our machines are actually plasma, they're super heated gas, and that's how we, those are our things, our super heated gas machines, that this would actually maybe not destroy it.

[SPEAKER_06]: Might warp it. [SPEAKER_06]: Might do what it's doing to the earth, if you can't even feel it, but not necessarily destroy the magnetic the machines. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then some of the other ones, like, [SPEAKER_05]: Juboders got a really fucked up magnetism because it's gas and not solid so the way it's spinning is creating different types of a magnetic field and then Saturn's fucked up too.

[SPEAKER_05]: The last probe we sent it Saturn, you can see, and this is like [SPEAKER_05]: things in nature the shape of things really matters is what makes graphing interesting because it's only in the shape that it really fucking does the thing, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: We should know that too because like this crystalline structure of diamonds that's what carbon is right what it gets crystalline and compacted turns it to a diamond.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's the most steady structure in the universe, so far as we know. [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, put this one up. [SPEAKER_05]: This is Jupiter. [SPEAKER_05]: It's all fucking over the place. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know what's weird? [SPEAKER_03]: So like I don't know if it's the recreation or not, but yeah, it's not a real picture. [SPEAKER_03]: Ironically, Tim Allen, the actor, also the Narc, who ratted out his friends, he could get out of jail and to Troy, it's what I best known for.

[SPEAKER_03]: is I guess super into astrology so Bob I don't know astronomy um I know this sounds super random but uh he posted on his uh twitter last night a clear shot of Jupiter and I was like fuck I guess last night was the night where you know you could see at the best with its telescopes so we took this image through his telescope and it's pretty goddamn dead on it [SPEAKER_03]: the picture, right? [SPEAKER_03]: So there it is right there.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it looks exactly like the recreation. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you want to see something so yes. [SPEAKER_05]: You want to see something super fucked up, Bob. [SPEAKER_05]: Pull up a picture of one of Saturn's poles in north or south pole. [SPEAKER_06]: The north one is at the north. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: This is I'm thinking about this since you mentioned it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's hexagonal. [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, it's the shape of graphing.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's basically the shape of graphing. [SPEAKER_05]: This is the shape that it says. [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, I've never seen something like that. [SPEAKER_05]: So the reason that it happens is because there are wind currents based on this, like the atmosphere of Saturn, which is, you know, it's a gas giant. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's got a different, it's obviously all atmosphere for the most part. [SPEAKER_05]: But there are wind patterns with no terrain, so it's completely flat.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's going to terrain for it to interact with. [SPEAKER_05]: So natural wind patterns, that's what it creates. [SPEAKER_06]: And you know, gas has electrons flowing through it. [SPEAKER_06]: I think that there's more magnetic magic that we haven't discovered yet with this. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's all temperature and wind and like, well, you know, you know, winds, you know that clouds are magnetic, you know? [SPEAKER_03]: There's tons of it and it's fascinating.

[SPEAKER_03]: Last week was about 10 days ago, I just sent it to you on Twitter, Bob, and your DMs. [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody posted the clearest picture of Mars that has been taken so far and fucking hell, dude. [SPEAKER_03]: I understand the fascination with Elon Moss saying, dude, I want to go there and I want to build a civilization. [SPEAKER_03]: it looks like fucking Arizona to be honest with you. [SPEAKER_03]: I know. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not that cold.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what is it negative 40 negative 140. [SPEAKER_03]: Look at this picture. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean to be honest, we could probably with the with the with the right kind of tech, we could re-tare a form Venus as well. [SPEAKER_05]: Venus was probably more than likely. [SPEAKER_05]: very similar to Earth at some point.

[SPEAKER_05]: It didn't have the electromagnetic field to prevent UV so much, so too much heat got in and too much plant-life grew and it started creating way to this is runaway greenhouse effects was called. [SPEAKER_05]: Too much plant-life grew too much carbon dioxide gets into the air makes it too thick and heat can't escape. [SPEAKER_05]: Our heat escapes, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: That's why we're able to be in [SPEAKER_05]: Heat couldn't escape, so it trapped it in there and it became a runaway greenhouse effect. [SPEAKER_05]: Everything died and all the heat just got trapped inside and it was like 700 degrees now. [SPEAKER_05]: Theoretically, though, you could reverse that process.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think that the reason I'm one of the things I've heard is that because the sun is expanding, it got so big that the heat on Venus was getting hotter and hotter and hotter and just like it is on Earth. [SPEAKER_06]: So we have two duties. [SPEAKER_06]: One is to, the reason the sun is expanding is because it's losing hydrogen.

[SPEAKER_06]: So if we can charge the sun with hydrogen with an electrolyzer and keep that thing charged, then it won't expand and we won't destroy our solar systems. [SPEAKER_06]: And we can prevent the heat death of Earth, just like what? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, it's not inside it. [SPEAKER_06]: It sort of explode out these creators. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we're like five billion years away from that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but we got to get on it now.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, set the tone since we got the internet finally. [SPEAKER_06]: We teach these people for the future. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And do you want to go in? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, five billion years from now. [SPEAKER_03]: Sometime in some time. [SPEAKER_03]: Sometime in five billion. [SPEAKER_03]: Over it. [SPEAKER_05]: Like fuck those people. [SPEAKER_05]: Five billion years or so from now, the or the sun will turn into what's called a red giant.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, it doesn't actually get bigger. [SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of like it's atmosphere. [SPEAKER_05]: The plasma version of it's atmosphere. [SPEAKER_05]: It's bigger plasma is like this four-state of matter. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a superheated gas, basically, right? [SPEAKER_05]: But it behaves a lot like a liquid sort of. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's always like a solid tube.

[SPEAKER_05]: The base of what will happen is the outer atmosphere, the plasma atmosphere of the sun will expand all the way out to Jupiter. [SPEAKER_05]: So we're fucked. [SPEAKER_05]: If we don't charge it, that's my theory anyway. [SPEAKER_06]: If we don't keep it fueled, it's going to expand and blow up. [SPEAKER_05]: Or we're going to get the fuck out of here. [SPEAKER_05]: It's one of the two. [SPEAKER_05]: Both probably.

[SPEAKER_06]: And my theory with Mars is that, because if you get out at the center of Earth's core, they now, I think scientists are starting to accept that it's plasma. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a very, it's so hot that it becomes plasma. [SPEAKER_06]: Same thing on this planet. [SPEAKER_06]: But it needs a jump start. [SPEAKER_06]: We need to be like clear and shock it back to life to get it to start to spin again. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's an act.

[SPEAKER_05]: We should probably do that on a different one to test it first. [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, as you say, Luke, um, Luke, use of Elon wants to nuke the poles. [SPEAKER_06]: He'd suggest, maybe, maybe to charge it up, that we could hit it with enough electromagnetic heat in the north and the south at the same moment, kind of like to, to electric, you know, paddles and, and, yeah, bringing somebody back to life.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, uh, man of steel, where they're firing the thing through both poles like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're, we're Hobie and Baywatch. [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's safe somebody on the beach like that. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, what happened was what 3.9 billion years ago?

[SPEAKER_06]: What happened was okay, so the universe is created or the source system created whether through what's called a z-pinch where there's this build up and build up and build up and then the sun ejaculates all this electronic [SPEAKER_06]: heat that becomes cools down and to matter and you've got 28 planetoids flying all around smashing into each other or a binary star collision where two came together and exploded out and now we have a 28 planetoids.

[SPEAKER_06]: They're all flying around bunching at each other. [SPEAKER_06]: Earth gets hit by this other planet called FIA blasts out the other side and cools down into what we now know is the moon. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we are. [SPEAKER_05]: They created an accretion disc as it's called. [SPEAKER_06]: It looks like Mars took a beating from something, sideswiped, do you see the, I think it's called the, it's a trench, it's the longest, 1800 miles long.

[SPEAKER_06]: It looks like Mars was hit by a planet toy, scraped across the surface, ripped it open, and it bled out all its magma. [SPEAKER_06]: And now it's, the iron has now come back down under the surface as iron dust. [SPEAKER_06]: So it's like, it's like it almost got killed. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, your, your layman might look at Mars and think it's a dead planet, but those that know, know the underneath the surface, there's more, we know already, know there's water there.

[SPEAKER_06]: So I think we can I think that it's very promising. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's sweet [SPEAKER_06]: A lot dude. [SPEAKER_06]: That's why I'm so crazy right now. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a story of fucking total recall, by the way, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: They have like these iron deposits in Mars where people are living underground, obviously, they're not underground, but under structures.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they fucking light them up and bring, they basically heat all the, and this is what we think happened with Earth as well, two things, one like, we get hit by Thia and whatever was happening on Earth before [SPEAKER_05]: It's on fires for lack of a better phrase. [SPEAKER_05]: There's like literal molten rock is the crust of our planet at that point. [SPEAKER_05]: Then we start getting hit with all these giant asteroids and comets that have liquid water on them.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they hit, they go somewhat through the atmosphere, but they also hit the ground.

[SPEAKER_05]: catch on fire they turn it to gas it's so much of them happen that we have a fucking atmosphere now and you can you can surmise a lot of things from that we're 78% nitrogen we're not like oxygen is 20% 20% and a quarter percent or some like that of our atmosphere so mostly it was nitrogen which is an interesting thing to be honest but [SPEAKER_05]: We can theoretically heat enough liquid water that's under the service and Mars to create an atmosphere for that planet.

[SPEAKER_05]: And then it would start to trap heat again, and it would be livable. [SPEAKER_06]: Because it's literally total recall. [SPEAKER_05]: It's literally total recall. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what they did. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they didn't explain all this, but that's kind of what the visual was. [SPEAKER_06]: This guy, Neil Harman, I think he wrote Batman Connox or something or Neil something.

[SPEAKER_06]: He developed this theory of the... [SPEAKER_06]: of the expanding earth, and he shows the model, it just as the sun is expanding, the earth is expanding. [SPEAKER_06]: All planetary bodies essentially most of them seem to be expanding, the earth is twisting open. [SPEAKER_06]: So they're like, no, the continents are floating around and he's like, no, the earth is twisting open, ripping apart, and hydrogen spewing out, well, this is my part of the theory.

[SPEAKER_06]: Hydrogen spewing out of these crevices and mixing with the oxygen they atmosphere to produce water, and that's where all our oceans are coming from. [SPEAKER_06]: So we can twist open, like Mars, we can help it twist open, maybe by shocking it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or like the same procedure is fracking, but instead of using hydraulic water to do that stuff, we're heating it up so the water evaporates, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, blasted open with some sort of shock force. [SPEAKER_05]: Can you pull that fucking picture of Saturn's pull back up, please?

[SPEAKER_06]: This guy who I was talking about the expanding earth theory is very interesting because you see like african south america fit exactly together Yeah, really when you when you when you panjia do it was we're all from brother, but his hypothesis was it was just a ball of rock and then it had lakes and shallow rivers And then as a twisted open broke open you start to see deeper and deeper remains And then like the bottom of the Pacific there's this like tear there's tears across the bottom where it's ripping open

[SPEAKER_05]: I want to go to a picture where you can see the whole thing, like just the top, just the hexagon. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the one on the, no go up, middle right, all the way over. [SPEAKER_05]: No, down, and the next one over there, go. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, um, put that up on screen. [SPEAKER_05]: Does that look like the Jews are somehow involved in Saturn? [SPEAKER_05]: Has to be the Jews? [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be. [SPEAKER_03]: The Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews.

[SPEAKER_03]: Very magnetic. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that even looks like that little hat they wear. [SPEAKER_03]: Sure does. [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like the eye of Horus. [SPEAKER_03]: Sure does. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm taking an eyeball. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the fucking Jesus. [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think that Jews come from Saturn? [SPEAKER_05]: Because I always thought it would be Jupiter, obviously, because it's Jupiter. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would be nice. [SPEAKER_03]: But it could be this.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I love Jews and all that, but I feel like just because they had writing at that period of history, they got to be like, yeah, everybody remember, because like how many times did they figure out there's one God in the last 150,000 years? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we don't know if Zoroastrianism came before. [SPEAKER_05]: Judaism or not, right? [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was the oldest known human.

[SPEAKER_05]: Zoroastrianism, I thought I think is, but Judaism often claims it. [SPEAKER_06]: because they got writing, they had writing, so they were able to conquer the earth with data. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, now we can do that. [SPEAKER_03]: But don't you think it's just the first person who could write and they were like, all right. [SPEAKER_03]: We're the flea did this and then boom, it would blow everybody's mind. [SPEAKER_06]: And maybe they'll follow it for hundreds of years.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, like thousands. [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, like, oh, it was what's this name? [SPEAKER_06]: Like Stephen King. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna blow their minds too. [SPEAKER_03]: Because a lot of this shit, you take dark black mirror, right? [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of that shit has come true in black mirror. [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe there was one guy who was just like, all right. [SPEAKER_03]: You really want to fuck with people? [SPEAKER_03]: How about we create this?

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's my God fucking Barrett all these dinosaur bones. [SPEAKER_05]: There's no dice on this shit, right? [SPEAKER_06]: The crazy thing is, as bizarre as you're saying, those little, like, what ifs and the impossibility to prove that it isn't, it makes me agnostic. [SPEAKER_06]: But you know what, writer, that's what I think too. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what it makes me think about it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what it makes me think about is if one of us we're in charge of that.

[SPEAKER_05]: Because just to save for the sake of argument that we were created and that there's some personality, whatever happens to be that was a charge of creating it. [SPEAKER_05]: I just, because of personification, think of me or one of my buddies and like, oh, we're assholes. [SPEAKER_05]: We would be fucking with people all the time. [SPEAKER_05]: We would be creating unsolvable problems where the attempt to solve the problem is very funny for me. [SPEAKER_05]: Right?

[SPEAKER_05]: Like a greased pig. [SPEAKER_06]: Basically. [SPEAKER_03]: if i'm telling you the truth and it's a lie which means i'm telling you the truth which means it's a lie but it's it's got to start with one dude right so one guy is got to be the guy who says all right i'm gonna do that and then it's a handful your buddies again you're on you're like oh yeah why can't fucking write you guys can't write we'll do it [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just, let's just start it right now.

[SPEAKER_06]: This guy came into town. [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, I'm God now. [SPEAKER_06]: Here's like, I'm God, everyone do this, this and this and so they're right. [SPEAKER_06]: The story of this guy is got, and then in the Bible, there's a different guy. [SPEAKER_06]: There's like a different person out here, because the next warlord came into town killed everybody's like, I'm God now and then serve me. [SPEAKER_06]: And so they sort of the same word, but it's a different person.

[SPEAKER_06]: And then I like to think they're like bunch of re-rights for sure. [SPEAKER_06]: Adam, like the story of Adam and me. [SPEAKER_06]: I like the sort of the archangel Michael and like Lucifer because I feel like maybe what happened was it was a cult of dudes sitting around tripping balls channeling God communicating with spirits and then Lucifer starts to like question them and he's like, you know Michael, I know you're in charge but you're not the only one that knows God and like

[SPEAKER_06]: These people are so aggressive, these common, the common pleb human men aren't, they don't have elect, they don't have a fire, they don't have a light, they don't have electricity, like Zeus could shoot lightning, obviously they didn't have electricity or likely. [SPEAKER_06]: So archangels, maybe they had hand gliders, you know, and they had technology from pre-flood.

[SPEAKER_06]: and looser's like we need to give this tech to the common man and he's like it's too dangerous looser for if we do that you know what happened last time everyone got a hold of this technology and looser's like fuck you and he goes to the kings and the dudes of Asia and starts to give them the tech and Michael's like then it's war and then they go to war in heaven in the bible they have this war in heaven and the archangels in their army defeat with their technology with their hand gliders and dropping

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, boiling oil on the enemies or whatever the fuck tech hot air balloons and then the victors write the story And they get to demonize and literally call them pure evil and then they raise the entire You know the defenders territory to the ground and call it hell because it's burning and people are cannibalizing each other They're so if someone violates their lot home, they'll send them to hell.

[SPEAKER_06]: They'll they'll they'll you know banish them to the flame lands the the scorched earth [SPEAKER_06]: of hell. [SPEAKER_06]: It's just seems so real like that's much more likely than in less the entire sort than than fantasy, you know, than like magic. [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't see any evidence for the magical ship.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, maybe it's just, if you if you track the progression of what a god is, [SPEAKER_05]: Um, the vast majority of people would have had first elemental than animal, typically you can see it in the eastern religion stew, then it became personified later on, unless you're looking at Zoro aspirin, which is kind of an outlier, because it happened.

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[SPEAKER_05]: polytheistic to some degree right that or that group of people where you may that may not have called them Jews at the time but if you recall Moses goes up the hill to get the 10 commandments he comes back down and even Aaron who's the chief priest at the moment his brother is created a fucking golden calf for everybody to worship you know what I mean so it wasn't true same thing with Islam is long picked Muhammad out of our a lot rather out of thousands of pagan gods in the

[SPEAKER_05]: So, it's interesting to see that trajectory, I think, what's more likely than most of that stuff that you're talking about, which is fun to think about when you're high, is that people took what they thought were good and bad traits in human beings and personified them on to the God, whatever it happens to be, I think that's probably more likely, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: So, if you think about what, forget about, forget about the story of the fight between Lucifer and God, I think more about, [SPEAKER_05]: what later on in the writing each group of personifies character wise, selfishness versus being a community member, stuff like that, right? [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's probably more likely.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's an element of it that, in my opinion, is a bit bastardized, and that's the part where, [SPEAKER_05]: You are to some degree subservient without recourse because that's not in human nature to be that way That's I mean the whole the whole of Western civilization is proof of that We've been struggling against that idea for the whole time But if you think about it that's kind of who Jesus was you talked about it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was it on the show or earlier before about how [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, or no, it was the last guest, the, the, I began guy a little come out later this week. [SPEAKER_05]: So I get about how Jesus was like kind of resistant to that ideology, like you're not just going to tell me what to do. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to do the right thing because I fucking want to. [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I, I feel like you guys were saying that on the show too, that like he came along and was like, you guys, I'm God, you're God. [SPEAKER_06]: You can do this. [SPEAKER_06]: You don't need a priest to talk to God. [SPEAKER_06]: It talks to you.

[SPEAKER_06]: You're there with him or whatever because it's when he's little as mom told him God's your dad because if she got pregnant by a Roman guy that killer and killed a child and killed a man Take all his property, probably, or take all his property. [SPEAKER_06]: So she's like, I don't know how I got pregnant. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know God and like so Jesus hears this as a little kid And he's like, well, okay, I guess God's my dad. [SPEAKER_06]: You can talk to God.

[SPEAKER_06]: It'll talk to you. [SPEAKER_06]: It'll communicate with you. [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't mean that it's your fucking dad. [SPEAKER_06]: No offense But so he goes around telling people it's my dad. [SPEAKER_06]: He truly believed it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not like he was lying and uh, but also [SPEAKER_06]: Then the Romans got a hold of the story and then the victors get to write the story books and they tell you No, you have to worship that guy.

[SPEAKER_06]: He came along and said don't worship like the first commandment is that there is no other God before me You don't worship a human to get to God. [SPEAKER_06]: You worship God directly So then then the Romans were not an oh worship our guy instead. [SPEAKER_06]: I I'm very, you know [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, before the Romans got a hold of it, theoretically speaking, Jesus would have already said, there's no way to the Father, but through me, right? [SPEAKER_06]: I've been there.

[SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever done so many psychedelics? [SPEAKER_06]: You're like, oh, I am God. [SPEAKER_06]: But so are you, and you realize it for a moment, like it's flowing through you. [SPEAKER_06]: It's part of you. [SPEAKER_06]: It's animating all of you there for you. [SPEAKER_06]: It is you. [SPEAKER_06]: But then if that's taken out of context, people would be like, oh, he said he's God. [SPEAKER_06]: He said he's God.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, no, no, no, yeah, but the other part was like, so are you. [SPEAKER_06]: So is all of this. [SPEAKER_06]: It's all.

[SPEAKER_06]: and they just pick little parts of it where he said, there's no other, because in that tripping moment, you're like, yeah, you can get to God through me, and there's no other way to do it, which might have been, he might have been incorrect about that, but maybe he was in a fully go trip when he expressed it, and it is true, you can get to God through other people, you know, through vibration, through music, through entertainment, through, [SPEAKER_06]: Meditation.

[SPEAKER_03]: The Hanson's. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, for probably three par harmonies. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Bob. [SPEAKER_03]: No, that'll get you there. [SPEAKER_03]: That'll always get you to God at the end of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a big fan of the Beatles. [SPEAKER_03]: Are you all here with Stan Haydson? [SPEAKER_03]: I hate him. [SPEAKER_05]: I hate the Beatles. [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't think there's anything like unique about him.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's a portion in the middle where the band was struggling to maintain their relationships with each other, where there was some good music produced, but the early stuff is fucking terrible. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Ep's Brian Epstein died. [SPEAKER_06]: He was their manager, and he died of an overdose right after they popped, and then they were all lost, and then Paul kept them together.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, once they started letting Paul lead more, and once they all started doing more acid, I felt like it got better. [SPEAKER_03]: I've watched and read every rock, biopic, documentary, book, all of it, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And with the Beatles in particular, everybody says the same thing that they were at somebody's house in Laurel Canyon and they put on pet sounds for the first time.

[SPEAKER_03]: and then that's how the Beatles started to change their sound was because that was the first time that they had heard something so uniquely different that they were like oh shit we should change ours to go in this direction because this could be the future whether that's true or not yeah before before before they started getting into psychedelics they were just the monkeys [SPEAKER_05]: It was a boy band, basically.

[SPEAKER_05]: It was constructed three-cored, fucking safe boy band that could go on the Ed Sullivan show. [SPEAKER_05]: Once they started doing psychedelics, they started, like, you, that's where you see John goes crazy. [SPEAKER_05]: And he was there. [SPEAKER_03]: And so they were listening to Pet Sounds by the fucking Beach Boys for Christ 6. [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, man, the sounds and the intricacies and all that we should, how do we elevate this?

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, John goes crazy. [SPEAKER_05]: he goes like full into the he's that guy that you know they got to in the psychedelics and then Paul got a leet right and that shows you the two trajectories you can take if you fucking embrace uh... reality [SPEAKER_05]: then you can become a leap through psychedelics. [SPEAKER_05]: And if you embrace a retarded bullshit, you can sleep in bed for six weeks and pretend you ended the Vietnam War. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the other big- You got options in life as often. [SPEAKER_03]: One of the other big things was Yoko was like, look, man, I think you've lost your mind. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think you need a year to go find it. [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, what do you mean? [SPEAKER_03]: And she goes, I'm going to give you this check, who's my friend, some other Asian check.

[SPEAKER_03]: And... [SPEAKER_03]: I've sex with whoever you want, you're going to have sex with her, and for one year you can do all the craziest shit you could ever fucking think of, but I wanted out of your system and you need to go and figure out your fucking life. [SPEAKER_03]: And then after a year, he came back to her and that was it, I guess.

[SPEAKER_03]: But like the stories that came out of that one year were so fucking insane that it was just like, um, [SPEAKER_03]: He was challenging people to scream at the top of their lungs so they would blow out their voices. [SPEAKER_03]: It was one rock star who was just like I lost my voice because of John Lennon forever. [SPEAKER_03]: And it was all kinds of fucking wilds to man.

[SPEAKER_06]: I used to emulate, well, I used to get really high and watch YouTube and listen to music, the Beatles, Jack Johnson, I'll shit play guitars right when I started doing YouTube and I was six, I was fucking fried and I was like, I would listen to Jesus Christ Superstar and I'm like, I love this story that maybe Jesus got, got overcome with fame and like, started to really believe the shit and Judas is like, burp, yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, dude, dude, this was like Ian wake up because it's like me getting an ego trip. [SPEAKER_06]: I know exactly when you go on an ego trip, what that can be like when you're doing internet videos and you think you are the shit and no one challenges you nothing can stop you. [SPEAKER_06]: And like, dude, this is like, bro, this was never about you. [SPEAKER_06]: This is about the message and Jesus is like, get out of it.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm fucking lose not you you're turning on me too. [SPEAKER_06]: And like, so they have this breakout and then [SPEAKER_06]: And I started to think, like, same with the Beatles, I'd be like, I am John Lennon. [SPEAKER_06]: I am Jesus. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'd have these like crazy ego. [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, well, if I'm John Lennon, that means I should be angry. [SPEAKER_06]: Like John Lennon was angry.

[SPEAKER_06]: And so I started to emulate this like, angry, destroyed. [SPEAKER_06]: Like he was, I don't know his story. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I didn't have his mom. [SPEAKER_06]: He didn't know his mom. [SPEAKER_06]: We were always raised by his aunt pretty much. [SPEAKER_06]: at Mimi, I think it was her name, Mimi. [SPEAKER_06]: And so, but I just had to get that phase out of my life where I kept looking up to others so much that I tried to be somebody else.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I don't know if you've ever gone through a phase like that. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I try, I use those people as motivation to try to do the things, but not want to be them themselves because I look at it, I think this conversation with my wife the other day. [SPEAKER_03]: I look at it like all time.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's probably 5 to 10 people who were so worldwide fucking famous that I can't imagine being in that top 10 of all time where it's just, I don't know where your mind would go. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where any of this shit would go and I don't know how you stop it from going out and taking advantage of the crazy shit on the planet. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the only way to maintain anything like that is to realize that it's not about you that you're a conduit.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's, you know, the interesting thing about the Jesus, well, there's so many interesting things. [SPEAKER_05]: He makes all these affirmative statements, they're called the IM statements, right? [SPEAKER_05]: I'm the good shepherd, I'm the way in the life, all this stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: often taken a meeting that I've always existed, John 1-1, and the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God, the word is the logos me, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: That's what he's referring to. [SPEAKER_05]: But then after all this declaration of who he is, you see him in many ways, socially and spiritually prostrate himself and front of other people, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Dedicate himself to service, and then the last call is to be like me. [SPEAKER_05]: So so what do you what do you take from that if you're the reader and you see a guy say I am the way the truth in the life The only way to the father's through me.

[SPEAKER_05]: I am the good shepherd. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm this. [SPEAKER_05]: I am that be me But what do you what does that mean to you you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's a I think that [SPEAKER_05]: Christian people should look beyond the church and try to ask themselves and not seeing any kind of weird spiritualism But what does it mean because Christian the word means Christ's like right? [SPEAKER_05]: That's literally what the word means So what does it mean to be that now?

[SPEAKER_05]: There's this other field called so theoryology and this doctrine of salvation a lot of people would say that the entire point of Christianity is this Equation that you are Fallen and that you must be redeemed and the only way to get redeemed is through Jesus. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what Protestant Christian would believe [SPEAKER_05]: a Catholic would add some additional heresy to it from Bob's perspectives.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's a heretic, but What does it mean then in addition to the just like let's talk about the salvation part? [SPEAKER_05]: What does it mean when a guy says all these affirmative I am Statements and then says be me What does that mean? [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's a really important question that people need to answer for themselves If they're gonna engage in Christianity and not just accept what they're being told [SPEAKER_06]: because if I were to say that, people would, you would say that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and people would be like, fuck, this crazy Eagle maniac. [SPEAKER_03]: And why should I follow you? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Why should I believe in you? [SPEAKER_03]: Why should I do all this shit?

[SPEAKER_05]: So maybe, I mean, he also called himself the light of the world. [SPEAKER_05]: So maybe your job as a Christian is to be the good shepherd. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it is to be the light of the world. [SPEAKER_05]: I think so because the spirit, I think of, like, you're not not to think of yourself as God, by the way, but to perform the function here on earth. [SPEAKER_05]: You can't, like, we have an earthly body. [SPEAKER_05]: This is what we have to handle.

[SPEAKER_05]: Certainly we have a spiritual sense as well and you can manage that the way you want. [SPEAKER_05]: But I think it's very clear what's being asked of you. [SPEAKER_05]: It's to all these good things that I said I am, go fucking be those things on this earth. [SPEAKER_06]: I think about the spirit. [SPEAKER_06]: Human, our spirit is magnetic.

[SPEAKER_06]: field interfering with the earth's magnetic field interfering with the galaxy's magnetic field there's all these inner woven fields But you have your own electromagnetic dynamo and field and spirit or whatever and then what you die It goes out and sucks into the sun which is the largest magnet around and so they say we're headed towards a white light And that's heaven the heat the high frequency beings that exist within like if they tell you they're in they're in the sun They just don't know it and then but if people reject that they

[SPEAKER_06]: They repel and they go flying out the deep space the darkness and cold of space and those are lost spirits And you can be the shepherd you can be the beacon You don't have to go chase them you become a lighthouse so bright that they see you and then they come back [SPEAKER_03]: And today, we've gone off the fucking rails. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like the end of the back to the future.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but we also know that we all, like psychology is also contagious, whether it's good or bad. [SPEAKER_05]: You can see this in mass hysteria, but you can also see it in rooms where people aren't communicating. [SPEAKER_05]: There's so much research on this, you can find yourself, but about how a positive attitude affects certain things. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, favorable outcomes with cancer.

[SPEAKER_05]: There are some places that if you have a terminal cancer, they'll tell your family, but they won't tell you. [SPEAKER_05]: Right? [SPEAKER_05]: This has been historically the case, because if you find out you have cancer, it makes it more likely that you will die from it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And if you don't know you have cancer, and you're just getting treated for it, there's like, I'm pretty sure it's like, you have an 80% less chance of dying from that cancer, if you don't know it exists. [SPEAKER_05]: That is, that is a fact. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what it means, but there's implications to that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, placebo effect. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't even hear not thinking about it. [SPEAKER_03]: You're not stressed, you're not, you know.

[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe it's that, maybe it's just amazing. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it's the chemicals from anxiety, who knows? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: In combination, we got to know what else we have. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, who knows, I think so. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we also, all of our modern research also shows that if you have cancer, you should go on a full carnivore diet, because cancer eats glucose. [SPEAKER_05]: You should not have any sugar ever.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I've heard that it can come from high acidity in the lymphatic system. [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of science focuses on blood, but you've got two fluids in your body. [SPEAKER_06]: There's blood and lymph, and your lymph is your waste, your sewage system.

[SPEAKER_06]: If it gets to acidic, the cells from like too much sugar or too much, anything that causes inflammation, maybe me, I don't know this system, but like wheat, sugar, alcohol, [SPEAKER_06]: which can break down into sugar and then the cells when they try and take a shit into the lymph they can't because it's too acidic they just get really hot and then they split in half to survive and then both of them are half is hot and that's cancer. [SPEAKER_06]: But that's one way to look at it.

[SPEAKER_06]: And so if you alkalize your lymphatic system through like elimination diets and then whatever you're left over like eat nothing. [SPEAKER_06]: The most cleanest to me, you know? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: the cleanest greens, and then you out, you alkalize, and then apparently that heals your cellular respiration. [SPEAKER_03]: When you started all this with YouTube and everything, was the goal to be famous? [SPEAKER_06]: No, yeah, part of it.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, I want to be famous, I don't know why, and I learned as I was doing it, it really matters why your famous. [SPEAKER_06]: If you become famous because you bullshitted your way, you're not going to look at these people that love you and go like, why do you love a faker? [SPEAKER_06]: I don't trust you. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't love you, and then you're going to hate yourself.

[SPEAKER_06]: But if you become famous for doing what you love anyway, then you can keep going and it doesn't seem to affect me the same way. [SPEAKER_03]: Because somebody asked me that to the night's buddy it's super high, and it was just like, who do you think the most famous person was of all time? [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, besides Jesus, obviously. [SPEAKER_03]: You know? [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, yeah, and I got, I don't know, man, fucking Elvis.

[SPEAKER_03]: Michael Jackson, maybe. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who that would be. [SPEAKER_03]: Gandhi. [SPEAKER_03]: Gandhi? [SPEAKER_03]: You think, you think Gandhi? [SPEAKER_03]: I think Gandhi's up there. [SPEAKER_03]: Have you got Gandhi on that list? [SPEAKER_03]: Top 10. [SPEAKER_05]: Most famous to ever? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Not the but he's in he's in top five for sure.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean he get he gets a nice boost from being from the most populous country on earth Yeah, well, that's part of it, but also I mean you'd have you would have to think of somebody from at least The early part of the 20th century. [SPEAKER_06]: Since radio. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like TV and radio appeared like you could be getting junior. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Cuba. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh radio number one Not the retard not the black retar killer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah [SPEAKER_03]: He's up there for sure, but then they asked this interesting question because I just said of all time, maybe Michael Jackson, I'd have paired it down a three. [SPEAKER_03]: Michael Jackson, Elvis, or Muhammad Ali. [SPEAKER_04]: We talking about the most famous person while they were alive, or just like, of all time. [SPEAKER_05]: While they were alive, Jesus wouldn't even be in the conversation. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just fuzzy on the rules because like Jesus and Caesar and Jesus wouldn't have [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, probably not until the 3rd century before I measured it as like social media too and like what's going on because shit that James fame right down your face every day Yeah, they didn't have that back in the day, so it was like you heard stories there are more people than know who we are right now than know who knew who Jesus was in a hundred eighty

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, probably, it's like relative fame. [SPEAKER_06]: So who's the most relative fame of their day? [SPEAKER_06]: Are you saying, like, up to this point now, who's been the famous? [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, for instance. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, right now, if you pulled all of the eight billion people and you said, who's the number one most famous person? [SPEAKER_06]: And then you compiled all that data? [SPEAKER_05]: Jesus, Muhammad, Gandhi, and Genghis Khan.

[SPEAKER_06]: But you don't think Hitler, I put Hitler on. [SPEAKER_05]: Pillars probably. [SPEAKER_05]: I guess that's there. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think the wrong reason, obviously. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, it's a bit of a bad thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Gagas Khan's not really on there for a great reason, either. [SPEAKER_05]: No, he, Gagas Khan was not a sweet man. [SPEAKER_04]: He loved women though, or at least he loved his wife. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he loved his wife.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the lot of him. [SPEAKER_05]: He loved the number of women. [SPEAKER_03]: He loved the lot of them. [SPEAKER_03]: But then the next question answer was, do you wish you could be, as I said Elvis and Michael Jackson are in all the 80s, because do you wish you could be one of those people? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, fame and popularity aren't the same thing either. [SPEAKER_05]: You can be famous and deeply unpopular. [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: And for this.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's like a weight. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like a responsibility. [SPEAKER_06]: And like, what are you going to do? [SPEAKER_06]: It's a double edged sword in Rome. [SPEAKER_06]: It was a punishment. [SPEAKER_06]: They put people's faces on the town center. [SPEAKER_06]: And they'd be like, this is the guy. [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody keep your eyes on it. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, the more people I know you are, the more of a target you are. [SPEAKER_06]: And I called, got a rental car today.

[SPEAKER_06]: And when I called, are you in cross on the media personality? [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I loved it. [SPEAKER_03]: I loved it, but I could imagine every eyeball when you walk around to have at the airport 9,000 people looking at you and and all day long and I cuz I said I answer the question no And we were talking about the most famous person today right today.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's Trump Yeah around the world Just because of everything that's going on and everybody's asking for his help and all these fucking countries and all this other shit and looks like it's coming to fruition [SPEAKER_05]: But I wouldn't want to be Donald Trump in a minute of f***ing- I would rather be influential than famous. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, the thing that I say or the thing that I create or whatever good I create affects people that don't even know it came from me, that's influential. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's like why I like the graphing fixing the roads thing because it's like I want to build systems that people can use to help themselves It's very much like teach a man to fish.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know I want to build open source material rather than be the guy that's like follow me I know the way and then as soon as I die the next guy gets up and he's like no, no, no, it's me. [SPEAKER_06]: It's me and you get these powered just [SPEAKER_06]: Bill better systems, it doesn't need to be about me, but at the same time, I will use my persona if I can.

[SPEAKER_06]: I used to be like, I question myself, how can I possibly think I'm righteous enough to stand up in front of a crowd and tell them what is right and wrong? [SPEAKER_06]: Who the fucking ego of me, but I'm like, I'd good parents, maybe I can't, because I see other people who try and do it that aren't qualified, and I'm like, you know what, maybe I have to try. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, but I'm sitting in my apartment alone, we're being enwishing I could, the world could be better.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, look, we could talk for a fucking hours today. [SPEAKER_03]: I love when you come by the show. [SPEAKER_03]: Please come back For sure. [SPEAKER_03]: I know we can't say why you're here, but we'll we'll chat about it in a couple weeks Now's the point of show. [SPEAKER_03]: We get to the drinker bro the week Which is someone who has inspired you or helps you become the person you are today.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna guy forget your last answer last time [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I was sitting over there thinking about it when you guys were doing the earlier show and I thought you'd be on. [SPEAKER_06]: And then I was like, well, Jesus, George Washington, Einstein, those are like my three go tos. [SPEAKER_06]: Elon lately, though, has been making me realize that you can still play video games and be a badass engineer and like, save the planet.

[SPEAKER_06]: So, over the last year and a half, [SPEAKER_06]: I think, I think Elon, I've really Jesse Wells. [SPEAKER_06]: Are you following Jesse Wells? [SPEAKER_06]: He's a musician. [SPEAKER_06]: He's a fucking 25-year-old. [SPEAKER_06]: He looks like the guy from Credence. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he's just got this. [SPEAKER_03]: This is big, son. [SPEAKER_06]: Rats? [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_06]: He's just popping off.

[SPEAKER_06]: He was on a Rogan show, like, five, six months ago. [SPEAKER_03]: And now, the guy has things to sound Gary. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know any of this. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know the names of any. [SPEAKER_06]: I just see him online and I'm like, yes, it's going to be those poems. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Jesse Wells music. [SPEAKER_06]: Jesse Wells is maybe the greatest musician on the planet. [SPEAKER_03]: Really? [SPEAKER_06]: I love this man so much.

[SPEAKER_06]: He gives me so much hope for the future. [SPEAKER_06]: I've got a young Jaguar face. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was going to say, I'm always looking for great new music. [SPEAKER_03]: So this guy's fucking amazing. [SPEAKER_03]: He stands out on the way home. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's got the vibe of he gives a shit. [SPEAKER_06]: He believes he knows he writes political j- Like this is the most fun part. [SPEAKER_06]: He's wonderful. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Jesse Wells.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Guys, light me up. [SPEAKER_06]: Fair enough, dude. [SPEAKER_06]: I'll listen to him on the way home. [SPEAKER_06]: We love you, man. [SPEAKER_06]: It's everybody where they can find you. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, Ross. [SPEAKER_06]: Ian Croslin, you find the ID and Croslin on the internet, all over social media. [SPEAKER_06]: And go to the graphing.movie website, that's the documentary I'm helping produce with 6.7 Kevin and Andreas Gixardis, it's graphing.movie.

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