Episode 1610 - Congressional Candidate Discusses Tariff Ruling

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're early today, dude. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're early today. [SPEAKER_05]: A little bit. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what do you laugh at out over there? [SPEAKER_05]: Just laughing at people fucking freaking out over this terrifying to be honest. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's going back and forth right now. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just I really just... [SPEAKER_05]: If you could just understand even the baseline of how our government works, you would be a lot more calm in your life.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think people could be quite a bit more calm. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that. [SPEAKER_03]: I think everybody reads the headlines. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'd like to take for instance Bob, can you bring up Judge real quick? [SPEAKER_03]: Just the had a judge.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, they're propaganda machine, but even like no, but but this is the people click on This is what they see leading a report, which has about a million followers on Twitter and Is kind of I mean, they do some propaganda themselves or like

[SPEAKER_05]: court stops Trump's ability to tear off which is not even close to true right side of close here we go but look at this one here robes rebuked the dawn emergency tariffs illegal a hundred and seventy five billion refunded to nation uh well that's a question which is and that's why I lifted my voice I raised it the inflection that's a fair question but the other part that's actually the most accurate uh

[SPEAKER_05]: thing I've seen on drudge in five six years really take to put pull that back up there let me is that true yeah oh my god it's fucking ads um emergency tariffs illegal not illegal right not within his constitutional power that's a better way of saying it but otherwise that's right he's using iepa to levy certain tariffs where in the first um [SPEAKER_05]: in the first administration. [SPEAKER_05]: He primarily used the same tariff levees that he's using in this term, by the way.

[SPEAKER_05]: Less than half of all tariffs will be affected by this and revenue collected, it's about a tenth. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Ish, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So this is, we'll get into more of it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely, because over the next couple weeks here, we're going to have some congressional candidates on the show that we believe in early voting is started as of two or three days ago, at least in Texas, not sure what it is in North Carolina.

[SPEAKER_03]: We've got congressional hopeful, hopeful, David buzzered there. [SPEAKER_04]: How are you, David? [SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing good, brother. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, early voting started here in North Carolina, or yeah down here, especially down in District 7. [SPEAKER_04]: And so you guys got to get out there, make sure you have your voices heard, do it early, man. [SPEAKER_04]: That way you have to wait in the lines. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tell everybody which congressional section that is, what counties that covers in cities. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's the whole South Eastern region of North Carolina, essentially it goes from Fort Bragg, but it's up to Fort Bragg and Humberland County, goes all the way out to Lumberton and Robison County, all the way down to Wyoming, to where I live now. [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's quite a large district. [SPEAKER_04]: It covers numerous counties.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a lot of rural areas. [SPEAKER_04]: But man, it's strong in American values. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the thing is if we want to keep standing up for me, I get out there and vote. [SPEAKER_03]: Are you trying to primary David Rouser down there? [SPEAKER_04]: I am. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, sir.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've been working in the political sphere since 2016 trying to help Republicans and trying to help conservatives, but I've just been kind of baffled about what I've seen and so I'm just trying to step into the role myself get some change done, so I can piss off to the mountains and be a farmer. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I look. [SPEAKER_03]: You live in Wilmington by the beach. [SPEAKER_03]: I've met David Rouser a couple times. [SPEAKER_03]: That guy is beachwood.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's just a washed up piece of wood [SPEAKER_03]: You win. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's get your take on the tariffs here. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, what was I'm out look. [SPEAKER_03]: I was shocked when I woke up this morning I don't really understand why and also the the swing in the vote. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was six three It's not like it was close.

[SPEAKER_03]: Usually these are kind of five four When you're talking about Political stuff and this one was six three tell us your thoughts on it [SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, you know, people get upset about the tariffs. [SPEAKER_04]: The thing is, you know, what's good for the market isn't always good for the people.

[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, NAFTA was good for the market, but it destroyed American capability to accomplish the American dream, which is working a good fulfilling job to be able to actually own a home and, you know, screw a family. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the thing that the tariffs are trying to bring back is they're putting these pressures, you know, on these corporations to bring that manufacturing back here. [SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of people, they don't like that upfront.

[SPEAKER_04]: pain, and so in the democracy, you have these folks that are able to basically manipulate people using emotions and saying, oh, you're building up a little bit, and therefore you should go against this policy, which will eventually bring you jobs later down the road, which will up your standards of living, but there are so manipulative, brother, it's so disingenuous, which is another reason I want to get involved. [SPEAKER_04]: There's no honor, there's no integrity up there.

[SPEAKER_04]: and that's why it's frustrating. [SPEAKER_04]: There are all playing politics and team sports instead of you know, good policy for the American people. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm look, I'm just a normal citizen here. [SPEAKER_03]: So Dan, let me ask the question, why would the Supreme Court say, no, we need to give more of our money away to other countries? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's not what they said. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, by all the headlines, that's what it seems like.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's because the media is in the propaganda and click's business, not in the information business. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so what does this really mean? [SPEAKER_03]: Then break it down on a level that say the dummy like me can understand your average citizen can understand. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: So there's a... [SPEAKER_05]: Article 1 of the Constitution gives the power to tax and tariff to Congress solely, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: Technically speaking, the executive branch has no power in that regard. [SPEAKER_05]: However, Article 1's section 2 gives Congress the power to delegate that authority, which they have. [SPEAKER_05]: A number of different times in the [SPEAKER_05]: the terror fact of 1930, the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the Trade Act of 1974. [SPEAKER_05]: And then also part of that is what's being challenging for right now, which is the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEPA.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is an emergency measure, so if we were at war or something like that, and you could

[SPEAKER_05]: that there is an emergency right now with $36 trillion in debt and climbing with predatory practices from other countries toward us and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

[SPEAKER_05]: Because if you allow the state to rule by emergency power, then it will create emergencies to gain more power, like the Patriot Act, like the Department of Homeland Security, like fucking FISA quotes, like Iraq, Afghanistan, blah, blah, blah, all this bullshit, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So that's the court's job, and in this regard, they have done their job today. [SPEAKER_05]: This is the correct decision.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and what is it mean for the long term of tariffs, Trump's ability to enact tariffs and the average small business owner? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't, we can get to a small business later, but. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's to this was filed this, I believe it's wrong business. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and I mean, I don't know why because it wasn't. [SPEAKER_05]: It was filed by small business owners funded by Democrats.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but it seemed like they wanted the ability to order from China, not be tariffed on. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, here, you know what the ironic part about that is, right now Trump has the, he has the unfettered constitutional authority to shut down all trade from China. [SPEAKER_05]: You can see it in Kavanaugh's dissent actually. [SPEAKER_05]: Trump has the unilateral authority to say no more imports from China, not one.

[SPEAKER_05]: But he can't say, he can't charge 1% tariff on him by himself, which is kind of odd to be honest. [SPEAKER_05]: But it is what it is. [SPEAKER_05]: We have separation of powers for a reason. [SPEAKER_05]: If you want to understand more about that, you should read through English, common law, and you should read Montesquieu. [SPEAKER_05]: right, bar end of on Montesquieu. [SPEAKER_05]: Just to understand where the separation of powers comes from from an intellectual standpoint.

[SPEAKER_05]: However, this affects, again, less. [SPEAKER_05]: than half of all tariffs imposed so far. [SPEAKER_05]: The ones against Canada, Mexico, and China, specifically, not all of them, by the way, just certain ones. [SPEAKER_05]: And then the ones that were a reciprocal in nature, because he used the IEPA instead of using Section 232 of the TEA, the Trade Expansion Act in 1962.

[SPEAKER_05]: That allows [SPEAKER_05]: the president to unilaterally impose tariffs or any import restrictions. [SPEAKER_05]: If the Department of Commerce determines that certain imports threaten US national security, he end [SPEAKER_05]: That national security is pretty broad in that regard. [SPEAKER_05]: And then section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, which authorizes tariffs and response to unfair, unjustifiable, or discriminatory foreign trade practices.

[SPEAKER_05]: That is to say retaliatory tariffs. [SPEAKER_05]: Under 301 of the Trade Act of 74, he can do that already. [SPEAKER_05]: And by the way, that is exclusively. [SPEAKER_05]: Those two acts exclusively is what he used in his first term. [SPEAKER_05]: to hit China on some other countries. [SPEAKER_05]: It brought you a couple of other ones. [SPEAKER_05]: He's already doing this. [SPEAKER_05]: As a matter of fact, over half of the tariffs current place are those two things.

[SPEAKER_05]: And the ones that are getting challenged right now, he can easily shift over. [SPEAKER_05]: Like this is not some doomsday event. [SPEAKER_03]: OK, no, David for you, I haven't read anything from Republicans or Democrats this morning saying, yay, or nay, usually there's one side is victorious, and this is a fight against mankind and Trump and evil, but I haven't heard that from either side there, which is odd.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's been crickets all the way around, except for the media. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, exactly, you know, as Dan said, there's, you know, it's a, it's a propaganda machine that's built on fear that drives, you know, clicks, which gets them commercial, you know, viability. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the thing that's kind of inherently destructive about our system, but it is what it is. [SPEAKER_04]: is that they're able to manipulate information and drive that fear aspect.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the way he broke it down is absolutely correct. [SPEAKER_04]: This was the right decision overall in a law aspect. [SPEAKER_04]: I was talking generally over a terrorist as a concept. [SPEAKER_04]: Most Americans just they see, again, that increase it. [SPEAKER_04]: the upfront, and it gives them the shock value, but they don't understand the deeper strategic concept of bringing back those good jobs and that manufacturing capability.

[SPEAKER_04]: But no, you know, I think it's the right decision. [SPEAKER_04]: Again, I just think that sending this money to foreign countries obviously is a bad thing, but that's where the other branches of government have to step it up. [SPEAKER_03]: Well now, Rand Paul just actually made a statement here right now, and I'll ask both your thoughts on this in defense of our Republic, the Supreme Court struck down using emergency powers to enact taxes.

[SPEAKER_03]: This ruling will also prevent a future president such as AOC. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why you used her, that's weird. [SPEAKER_03]: From using emergency powers to an actual socialist. [SPEAKER_05]: He used her to invoke the worst case scenario, but that's, well, she's in the lead. [SPEAKER_03]: She's in the lead. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's in the lead. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it's a fair statement.

[SPEAKER_05]: But again, the Supreme Court's job and aside from just interpreting law is to make sure that we don't rule by emergency-eated. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, we have a good one. [SPEAKER_04]: What's the heavily in dialectic man? [SPEAKER_04]: They always walk us into this control apparatus using, you know, events or using catastrophes, you know, that's exactly what they do and that's why this is the right decision, um, overall.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So in addition to, [SPEAKER_05]: In addition to the acts I've already mentioned, there's also a section 201 of the Trade Act of 74, and that allows the President to have the International Trade Commission. [SPEAKER_05]: He presents his plan, we're going to bring back a lot of American manufacturing, and imports from these countries are going to harm that plan, and this is, I'm the duly elected President.

[SPEAKER_05]: do a study show me that it would harm these plans and then he can invoke whatever trade restrictions or tariffs he wants even put quotas on international trade for a limited four-year period, which would extend beyond this point beyond his presidency, right? [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many different options here, but yeah, there's always this lake.

[SPEAKER_05]: uh... battle going on and and any time it ends up on the side of uh... government not having more power all for that right right like it's just just a little bit just because you agree with it doesn't mean it's a good idea exactly and again i think the silence from [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone on both sides. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the Trump administration, I've talked to people in the last couple of weeks about this from the admin. [SPEAKER_05]: They've, they've, they plan for this already.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: There are immediately pushing, this is the reason, and I disagree with it. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think they should have done this, but the reason they did is because quicker and more expedient. [SPEAKER_05]: To let a blanket tariffs that it is to go through, because it isn't just like you could look at Mexico as a single unit and say here, here's tariffs on everything from Mexico. [SPEAKER_05]: And do you have to file paperwork for each one of them, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: It takes a long time, but it's supposed to take a long time. [SPEAKER_05]: We are constitutional republic. [SPEAKER_05]: We're not a fucking dictatorship. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not saying that Trump's a dictator. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying this is a feature, not a bug. [SPEAKER_05]: It's working this way on purpose. [SPEAKER_05]: So the short answer is it's going to be more work. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay? [SPEAKER_05]: And it should be. [SPEAKER_05]: Do the work.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the Dow Jones, I'm looking at right now, has remained pretty much, it's down a hundred points or whatever, and crazy, obviously. [SPEAKER_03]: So it doesn't seem like Wall Street cares one way or the other about this ruling either. [SPEAKER_03]: It appears as if they know the rules. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just stunned because I'm sitting in my couch, getting ready for work, put my shoes on, and I look up and they break in to the programming.

[SPEAKER_03]: The Supreme Court dropped this thing, and it was like,

[SPEAKER_03]: okay uh... doesn't seem like either side really cared uh... doesn't seem like anything is really affected the market is clearly not affected uh... well they're talking about aliens to brother didn't you see well really to the to distract from the abstinence of yeah that's you know that was my next question for you here uh... let's get into it since you brought it up a lot of people been calling this hey he'll start talking about aliens that you know we'll start talking about

[SPEAKER_03]: I, I'm as, amped about aliens as the next person. [SPEAKER_03]: I want to fucking know when I want to clap some cheeks. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, David. [SPEAKER_03]: But this obscene thing isn't going away. [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, I mean, it just, it's just going to keep dripping out and dripping out and dripping out and dripping out. [SPEAKER_03]: Like a leaky dick. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know what you do to ever take antibiotics.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you do. [SPEAKER_03]: But you're going to need everything, because every day there's another disease and there's another STD out there. [SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know what you do anymore. [SPEAKER_03]: The only thing is fun, but I don't think we're going to get anything that we haven't gotten in the past. [SPEAKER_04]: I would support complete unredactions. [SPEAKER_04]: People say, you know, worry about the victims.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that this deserves a complete disclosure in all aspects in order to actually reach some type of justice and some type of closure without which, you know, if I'm gonna be honest with you, but look, my family's fought for this nation in every single American conflict. [SPEAKER_04]: I've got roots from this area since 1730.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've nearly died for this country, but if this goes unadressed, [SPEAKER_04]: and people are able to just skirt by the law than it loses all of my ability, man. [SPEAKER_04]: And we really cannot allow that to happen. [SPEAKER_04]: So many generations of sacrifice, so much for us to have what we have. [SPEAKER_04]: We just can't allow some type of scourting of justice. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I don't care who gets steamrolled in this investigation.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure how we conduct it, but it needs to take place, be it military tribunals, I don't care, but there needs to be some type of justice without which this isn't a serious country, and you can't expect young men to go fight and die for it. [SPEAKER_03]: So, there's a couple that I have that are at the top of the list. [SPEAKER_03]: One of them is clearly less waxener, I've said this for the last few weeks on this show.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's been Comer said today that they're not going to investigate him anymore after his testimony. [SPEAKER_03]: You're kidding. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, why wouldn't they? [SPEAKER_04]: Because that's the rabbit hole you're not allowed to go to. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think the Wexer connection to the agency is so obvious. [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, there's no way they're going to investigate them. [SPEAKER_03]: It's madness.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you start peeling back the layers of the guy who bought a fucking one of the planes, the CIA used a traffic narcotics in and out of the country, no. [SPEAKER_05]: That ain't happened, my friend. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: There's no like, there's no war in commission for that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_05]: In 2026, there is a zero percent chance that's going to happen. [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think we're going to get anything out of this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now Prince Andrew got thrown out of the bus over in England, which is, [SPEAKER_03]: I would be happy shocking because it's the same here. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell you, I would be happy if there was some just internal organization within the US government, where Trump is just like, hey, these are all the guilty people. [SPEAKER_03]: go after him. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, this guy betrayed our country, this guy touched kids, KELAMOL.

[SPEAKER_05]: And if you just start seeing people fall out of windows and shit, perfectly happy with it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the problem is there's just so much. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we got a lot of windows around. [SPEAKER_05]: We got a lot of windows.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know I understand that but our justice this man is very convoluted you're able to skirt for 10 20 years and then these people die before they even face the justice and so that's what I fears that these people are going to die out before they need you know there's a lot of interesting code words you know a lot of billionaires eating a lot of pizza and hot dogs and beef jerky you know these are things that need to be explored man because like

[SPEAKER_04]: if they are true allegations, then this is sicker than anything we could have imagined in the whole thing needs to burn. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if this is the system that we're allowing to be propped up, it needs to burn. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is the evil of the world. [SPEAKER_04]: If this is what's happening, and so there needs to be an investigation. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm just telling you how I view it, man.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I know there's a lot of other Americans that are just so disgusted. [SPEAKER_04]: at the ability to just kind of overlook it and just act like nothing has happened. [SPEAKER_04]: When it's clearly been manipulating our government in the direction of our nation for years, if not decades, and so there's just it's it's a fishy man, fishy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what do you tell your constituents, and, you know, let's say I'm one of them, I, you know, we live there for years, so I still have a house for my parents live there. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: They're going through early voting and all their other, I think they're going tomorrow, actually. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, Friday. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Today, there'll be a little bit of a library. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: South.

[SPEAKER_03]: Down by the beat. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I vote. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's great. [SPEAKER_03]: But what do you tell constituents, when you're looking at, let's just say, information that's over the last three months. [SPEAKER_03]: You got the Epstein thing, which is all consuming, seems like the tentacles touch every single famous rich person, congressperson, senator on earth.

[SPEAKER_03]: You've got... [SPEAKER_03]: The Trump verdicts with, you know, the rating of the Fulton County voting system, you know, all those cases being overturned, a possible election interference, which looks probable. [SPEAKER_03]: You got the 2016 stuff about Obama, Wire Tapping Trump, and everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: None of these people from any of anything that I just mentioned are being prosecuted.

[SPEAKER_03]: What do you tell us constituents of like, hey, I'm going to get in there and I'm going to fix this when everybody currently in there can't fucking fix it. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, I don't, if I'm going to be honest with you, it's kind of hard to promise anything like that because that's exactly what happens. [SPEAKER_04]: We send people up there and they seem to just twittle their dicks and, you know, I can tell you that I would.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've nearly died and I can tell you the only thing I care about is an honorable death and honorable soul when I meet my maker. [SPEAKER_04]: And so the only thing that I can tell you is that when confronted with those types of foreign interests or, you know, malignant interests tier domestically, I would only hope to get my scalpel and begin etching them out of the tissues that they're infected with.

[SPEAKER_04]: I can't guarantee that I'll be able to get answers for all these things, but I'll be fighting for answers for all these things, because I know how much it means open and transparency is what this nation is. [SPEAKER_04]: Without they use all this bureaucratic red tape to hide the truth, and the thing is, look, this country, it can be great. [SPEAKER_04]: but it won't be great if we're hiding the truth from our people. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what needs to be open.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so I will continue to fight for the truth when you talk about, again, getting someone up there who can't be bought, can't have special interests. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't own any stocks. [SPEAKER_04]: I swear I'll never buy purchase a stock. [SPEAKER_04]: Me, nor my family. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a term-limit guy. [SPEAKER_04]: I think eight years for the house is what needs to happen. [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't like PAC money.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think foreign PACs and these mega PACs are destructive [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of personal interest that go along with the investments of what not, all this needs to be cut out if we're to get honorable people up there to work in an honorable way without which we're not going to get that. [SPEAKER_04]: And so that's one step that we got to take is to get someone up there who will vote for these types of things.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I haven't seen it yet, which is why I've taken the risk, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I had to quit my job to actually take this step. [SPEAKER_04]: I worked as a, I was a government relation specialist for HBOC for heroes advocating for veterans access, the hyperbaric auction therapy, which is fantastic. [SPEAKER_04]: It's helping TBI, PTSD, things that lead to suicidal ideation. [SPEAKER_04]: That's one of the reasons I vote. [SPEAKER_04]: I got into this.

[SPEAKER_04]: I went to Rouser. [SPEAKER_04]: I went to Greg Murphy. [SPEAKER_04]: I went to Hudson. [SPEAKER_04]: I went to all these people. [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, look, this thing that's working.

[SPEAKER_04]: Take it up the chain, take it to Doug Collins, take it to the most, take it to the, you know, to these committees and actually push it through, but there's no movement, man, it's, it's all, it's all been gunked up and that's the thing, we need people up there willing to throw some knife hands and get a little wild and not worry about the quorum and have the energy to actually fight it, but I don't know, I'll probably end up getting killed before I get that for him.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, we're talking about Rouser. [SPEAKER_03]: I know he has a shit ton of money. [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a war chest, and he's a younger dude. [SPEAKER_03]: He's on the youngest side, at least. [SPEAKER_03]: This is a career politician going back to what you said about turntable. [SPEAKER_03]: And he could end up in there for the next 30 fucking years. [SPEAKER_03]: He's been there for, this is the scene already.

[SPEAKER_03]: I know, I look, this can, and he's a young guy. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I look up his age. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but he doesn't have a family. [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have a wife. [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have any stake in the future. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what's a little, you know, he runs as a conservative, but, you know, he's never held a real job. [SPEAKER_04]: He's never actually, you know, put his hands into the dirt.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's a family, his family owns a lot of farm, [SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen them out there with a home in his hand. [SPEAKER_04]: And under his watch, we've lost a lot of our family farms and distributing industry to China. [SPEAKER_04]: And so that's something I wouldn't allow outforce the divestment of Smithfield and these hog farms from Chinese investors. [SPEAKER_04]: That's something that I'd push for.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if I end up running one day, by the way, I'm gonna steal that as my slogan. [SPEAKER_03]: I will. [SPEAKER_03]: Ross Patterson is running for Congress, and I will have a ho in my hand. [SPEAKER_03]: I can promise you that, that will be my soul focus there, but with Rouser, it's endless. [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a ton of money.

[SPEAKER_03]: When you're looking at the polls and you're going up against guys like this, because this happened to a buddy of ours last year, Brandon Herrera, who now is re-running, and it looks like he has the potential to win if everybody comes out, especially with everything that's going on with [SPEAKER_03]: with the affair and Tony Gonzalez and all that other stuff out here.

[SPEAKER_03]: But he was able to do it with a bunch of YouTube followers and obviously he's got a massive social media following, how do you try to defeat somebody with that much money and a war chest? [SPEAKER_03]: Just going on podcasts and things like that? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, that's the thing, brother, is I'm everywhere every day, I'm at the polls this morning.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yesterday morning I did a podcast, then I did a, I went down to the county jail, worked with, I'm a mentor down in the county jail, doing veteran treatment court. [SPEAKER_04]: So I did some of that. [SPEAKER_04]: I was able to get out to the polls, then I did another speaking event. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm everywhere, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I bring the energy. [SPEAKER_04]: I bring the charisma. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what people want.

[SPEAKER_04]: They want to see [SPEAKER_04]: you there, your presence. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's one thing, again, Rouser doesn't offer his presence, his attention. [SPEAKER_04]: But that's the thing that I offer, man. [SPEAKER_04]: It's difficult, I'm not going to lie. [SPEAKER_04]: It's all uphill. [SPEAKER_04]: I've been trying to get a lot of social media activity, just I think that I've all as a lot of people like what I have to say. [SPEAKER_04]: They just haven't been able to hear it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So trying to get that algorithm beat it. [SPEAKER_04]: It's been tough, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to lie. [SPEAKER_04]: But that's really where I'm at.

[SPEAKER_04]: I got a lot of grassroots support, a lot of folks that hear me, they really love what I have to say and they continue to spread the word, but I need a wider avenue of, you know, getting the message out, I don't have millions of dollars for these commercials and this, this boosting campaign that he does, and I definitely don't have a Trump endorsement even though I think he wouldn't endorse me if he would have waited a little bit instead of doing it way back in October, but that's okay, I won't hate him for it, but

[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's tough. [SPEAKER_04]: It's an uphill battle brother, but we can't stop man. [SPEAKER_04]: Even if I don't win this time I'm not gonna stop. [SPEAKER_04]: We gotta keep this voice going. [SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise, it's all for not and that's the thing man We gotta keep keep trucking. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a dirty leg.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a tenth mountain guy, and I like walking so we're gonna keep it walking [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't understand is in a district that has one of the most dense veteran populations in the country plus probably our most important military base isn't, is it run by somebody who's a veteran or even gives a shit about veteran stuff? [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make sense to me.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's very odd to me that there isn't some somebody [SPEAKER_05]: that served in the military in that role. [SPEAKER_03]: And even Wilmington, like, let's take Wilmington for example, a lot of veterans live there after they retire from the military and from Bragård Jackson, Billion. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for the county man is. [SPEAKER_03]: Which low enough? [SPEAKER_03]: But by the way, which is why I love living there. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I feel safe, yeah, I feel safe.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it's great, but yeah, that's a great question. [SPEAKER_03]: Why aren't more veterans going out and voting for a veteran candidate in that area? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, there hasn't been one running for office there. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: Rouser's been there for a while. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I know he's been there for a while, but is anybody challenged? [SPEAKER_03]: Him like you have? [SPEAKER_03]: I can't even remember somebody challenging him.

[SPEAKER_04]: There was a guy next Beckwith, actually a couple years ago. [SPEAKER_04]: I believe those 22, he's an army guy, another infantry guy as well. [SPEAKER_04]: He's running for a county commissioner up in Pender County. [SPEAKER_04]: I believe now, but he's another good gentleman. [SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing is, I think veterans are starting to get a little bit antsy and we're a little bit frustrated with the status quo and we're starting to get a little, yeah, little itchy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I understand it as we should, yeah, you should. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's not related to Charlie Beckworth as he the guy that started Delta Force I don't know there's no way Delta Force's grandson went to fucking the Marine Corps that would be that would cause him now in the family [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, you're gonna have to look that up on your own. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna find out if it's true. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna go after her.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have, since early voting started, do you have early polling? [SPEAKER_03]: Do your people give you numbers and all that stuff? [SPEAKER_04]: I am my people, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the only person on this team. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not gonna lie. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't have any paid members. [SPEAKER_04]: It's just me, man. [SPEAKER_04]: Just just just rolling on solo. [SPEAKER_04]: Really?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So on election night, you'll be watching at your house with your friends and family. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, so I mean, I've got a big family, you know, I've got the love of my life here, I was able to capture the American dream down in Wilmington, so I was born a raised in Fayetteville man, lived in the district, my whole life. [SPEAKER_04]: went to college down here, it was like surfing, I love it. [SPEAKER_04]: But no, you know, I have a young family.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm big on spending time with family. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like going out and drinking beers and whatnot anymore anymore. [SPEAKER_04]: I drink them at home and hang out with the family. [SPEAKER_04]: But no, it's been tough, man. [SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, my own team, I've been doing this. [SPEAKER_04]: I probably ran this campaign with about 15 grand.

[SPEAKER_04]: I had people that said they volunteer and donate what not that never, you know, ended up coming through people that had a lot of money. [SPEAKER_04]: But it is what it is, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just going to keep it going because it's not for those people. [SPEAKER_04]: It's for my kids. [SPEAKER_04]: It's for your kids. [SPEAKER_04]: It's for the folks that want to fight for a nation that's actually worth fighting for. [SPEAKER_04]: It's yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, man.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's all about. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what I think that it should be. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there should be a $1,000,000 spent on all these campaigns, local, state, you federal, all of it. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it had a great chance. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, I read that, it's a fact check, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: It does say you actually did quit your job. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I mean, I was fired.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, so I was working up, you know, for H5 for heroes who made this up, I would work from home. [SPEAKER_04]: I'd wake up. [SPEAKER_04]: I could spend all my day with my girls advocating for veterans issues. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was amazing.

[SPEAKER_04]: I made good money doing it, but I, you know, I prayed on it, brother and in the thing is, man, you know, [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I can sit in my comfort with my trinkets and be silent and, you know, and just it would affect my psyche because I have the talents. [SPEAKER_04]: I have the ability to speak for the truth. [SPEAKER_04]: And if I was to just be comfortable with my trinkets, I'm just the dishonorable shit bag, man.

[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, when I look at my daughters, I'm like, I can't tell them that I died at everything I possibly could if I'm not out there actually do it. [SPEAKER_04]: And so I took that step, man. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I took the step and we're going to roll with it. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's incredible because people talk shit all day long on Twitter and everything else about politics unless you run, you know, sorry, it's your own fucking fault.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I like I've, because I've chatted about with my wife in the future and she's like, look, after the kids. [SPEAKER_03]: or older, that'd be fine if you want to give it a shot locally. [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, you've got a report to DC here and there, but you still get to live in your district at the end of the day.

[SPEAKER_03]: So something like that, nothing more to actually have to move to Washington, D.C. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because I can't stand D.C., but yeah, there's a lot of people that did it. [SPEAKER_03]: You'll be able to say, winner loose. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I actually ran for Congress. [SPEAKER_03]: I tried to change my community, my states, and potentially the future for my kids. [SPEAKER_03]: So even if you win or lose, you can always look back and say, you know what, dude, I tried.

[SPEAKER_03]: I tried my hardest and here we are. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Now let's go over some differences between you and Rouser here. [SPEAKER_03]: What's the top issue that you guys differ on?

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of things that Trump says that I disagree with, things like the H1Bs or the Chinese students that we need, that we need, you know, he talks about not wanting to force the investment of single family homes, because it might shutter the market a little bit. [SPEAKER_04]: And I think the boomers can stand to tell us a little bit of their portfolios that younger Americans can reach the American dream.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, generally we vote similarly, one thing that I disagree with that he recently just did was the kill switch and the vehicles. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure I want the government having kill switches and the vehicles man, but he voted along those lines. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really like that idea. [SPEAKER_04]: He's pushing for, you know, these data centers and whatnot. [SPEAKER_04]: These data centers, man, this AI push. [SPEAKER_04]: It really, I'm fearful of it.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're using our tax dollars to invest in private corporations' ability to create technology, which will replace us in the workforce. [SPEAKER_04]: And my whole thought process is, you know, we shouldn't be funding that with our tax dollars unless it encourages. [SPEAKER_04]: Unless it, [SPEAKER_04]: Unless there's some type of reciprocal advantage that comes with that, such as job promises.

[SPEAKER_04]: For instance, you know, we got truck drivers that need to to ride their trucks if they will switch to automatic or you know, automated, that would be a destruction of a whole sector. [SPEAKER_04]: These things need to be protected. [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, these are things that I'm worried about. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not focused on the market.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I like a good market, but if the market is destroying the will or the ability of Americans to actually have a family and live the American dream, then the market isn't working for the people and it needs to be something needs to change and so that's why, you know, I'm not up there for personal investment or to be a yes man, I want to be up there to fight for the families. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're a young guy, you're 35.

[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody says you don't win a lot of, I figured with the percentages of people who don't win running for Congress on their first try. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't bring it in her hair to hold us when he was back on the show. [SPEAKER_03]: I figured with that number is, is this something that you would consider doing again?

[SPEAKER_03]: Because a lot of people say who've come on the show over the years, man, I needed that experience to understand just the entire system and how to eat and try to make a dent to get into it. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, I'll keep it going man. [SPEAKER_04]: The thing is, look, people ask me, why am I not, why I'm not doing local politics? [SPEAKER_04]: The thing is, I'm not in it for the needy gritty. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm in it for the cultural war right now.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're in a color realm of revolution, man. [SPEAKER_04]: Our kids are being slick silver tongue to over to the left by these people spewing, you know, as

[SPEAKER_04]: these utopian ideologies and we need to have some rational people up there messaging a good logical discourse in bringing the hearts of minds back to our side and we're not getting it from these these lent noodles up there man and that's the thing that I think I provide is the culture warrior aspect a good inspiration for young men specifically that you know the American dream

[SPEAKER_04]: Again, I will definitely stay in, but I feel like the window for politics is closing when you look at this transhumanism, you look at AI, you look at all of the [SPEAKER_04]: the manipulation that you look at the aspect of the foreign government starting to clamp down their populations in Europe. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we're moving towards something very rapidly, and if you don't get involved real soon, the window is closing, and so I'll keep it going as long as it's possible, man.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So we've got to do something. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll say on the public investment in private industry thing. [SPEAKER_05]: We've got America's got a long history of it, but when it's worked well, it's had very specific deliverables and safeguards, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: In 2010, Tesla got about a half a billion dollars from the government to build out their factories and shit like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: one of the safeguards was a pretty high interest and then if they pay it back early termination fee on the loan which they paid it it was a 10 year loan they paid it nine years early yeah right paid it off but they still had to pay quite a bit more than they didn't get like if you got a simple interest loan [SPEAKER_05]: You can skip the back half of the APR, typically, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: And just pay one lump sum that the payoff quote that you, I'm sure everybody's familiar with that. [SPEAKER_05]: No, they didn't get that. [SPEAKER_05]: You have to pay the whole fucking thing, right? [SPEAKER_05]: They just happen to pay it back early. [SPEAKER_05]: With Intel, with this Chips Act thing, Intel is, they're getting, like, I think, nine billion from the government in investments.

[SPEAKER_05]: One, all that shit's got to be paid back to, they can't do any expansion, any, in any other country, specifically in China for 10 years. [SPEAKER_05]: They have to, there's a restriction on any kind of stocked buy-backer dividend for five years, amongst their corporate leadership, blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_05]: Same thing with the Department of Energy, Lithium loans with North Carolina actually did something like this with Dell. [SPEAKER_05]: very specific clawback provisions.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you don't hit certain markers or meet our requirements for job creation and this and this and this, we claw back the money you went back to the taxpayer. [SPEAKER_05]: That's on top of it being alone that you have to pay back, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So we do this stuff all the time and the good version of it.

[SPEAKER_05]: have safeguards and that either make the taxpayer whole or wealthier, right, or create jobs or deny foreign countries and get involved in our businesses and blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's all sorts of ways to do that. [SPEAKER_03]: The next thing I wanted to chat about is the Save Act. [SPEAKER_03]: The other top story that got buried here earlier because the Supreme Court decision is Mitch McConnell said he is a no vote on the Save Act.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't for the I can't for the life of me understand why who is getting paid by he can barely form a sentence anymore I look Biden was was bad and then there's Mitch McConnell I mean you want to talk about being checked out of life he's three times Biden right now i mean that guy can barely stand up um... walking around [SPEAKER_03]: In a matter of fact, if you saw the press conference, two people had to hold his arms.

[SPEAKER_03]: The entire time, and I'm carrying him away after he said he was going to be a no on the save act. [SPEAKER_03]: Jesus Christ, man, how do we get these people out of here and then is the save act lost now that we like McConnell's going to vote no? [SPEAKER_05]: Um, not necessarily, I mean, there's 53 plus one with a VP, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And there's 50 sponsors.

[SPEAKER_05]: So with those 50 sponsors, if they break the filibuster, they wouldn't just got to break the filibuster and they can vote it into law tomorrow. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: The end. [SPEAKER_03]: Will he really do it, though, is the question? [SPEAKER_05]: That is the question. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no, probably not. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's not. [SPEAKER_04]: That's, that's like a score-storth.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if the Republicans were willing to go score-storth, unfortunately.

[SPEAKER_04]: they should have been doing this since day one if they were going to do it, right now we risk a pendulum swing and if we take away that you know that filibuster then all the nightmares that we have will also come true and so if they are to take power and so you know we've [SPEAKER_04]: The save act, look, you know, these omnibuses, they're all littered with all these patent poison pills. [SPEAKER_04]: I wish we could do away with it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Unfortunately, our system's so large, it's kind of impossible to do that at this point. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we need to save act to pass because we need good voting or we need, you know, solid elections that don't allow illegals to vote in these elections. [SPEAKER_04]: And so I wish we had good Republican leadership, but apparently that one of the oldest Republicans still on the books is a no vote for this.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's indicative [SPEAKER_04]: of the interests that are at play, which is why we need to send some people up there with a backbone, people who've stared down death, seen their buddies die, and we'll look at these special lectures and tell them to go fuck themselves.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's take this this save act, for example, last time I voted in North Carolina, they said no. [SPEAKER_03]: When I pulled out my ID, I mean, they were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we don't need to... [SPEAKER_04]: They were like, please don't. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I mean, literally, I'm not kidding, like, it's not hyperbole, it was two hands up. [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, no, no, no, no, we don't wanna, and I'm like, yeah, but I live here, how do you know this is me?

[SPEAKER_03]: And I just don't understand it. [SPEAKER_03]: Is that still the case in North Carolina? [SPEAKER_03]: Is it no ID to vote? [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, you need 90 to vote North Carolina. [SPEAKER_04]: They switched at the state government level. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, I'm excited to see. [SPEAKER_03]: So why can't every state then switch it, I guess? [SPEAKER_03]: Or the Democratic state's just going to keep it open.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing, that's the democratic states keep it open, which they, and the thing is brother are census.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why this is the case, but our census attribute selectual power of an overall population number and not just the citizen population, which is obviously the inherent law to mass migration because now California, Chicago, all these, you know, these left [SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand why that hasn't been repealed years ago, or at least challenge at the Supreme Court level.

[SPEAKER_04]: These are things that would inherently change the way that our system does things, but there's no movement. [SPEAKER_04]: Again, there's no, there's no one up there actually trying to change the structural integrity of the system. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm not convinced most or even many of these people understand our government, like functionally how it's a design off that are currently in there. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, there's no way.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think I think I think they govern based on [SPEAKER_05]: popularity mostly, and you know, look, it's maybe it's unpopular to say certain things, but that's your job if you're taking on the responsibility of being in the Congress. [SPEAKER_05]: It's your job to explain to people why something you're doing is constitutional and what the actual constitutional remedy for something is. [SPEAKER_05]: Like I understand that you guys want this to happen this way and now.

[SPEAKER_05]: but our Constitution demands that it happens this way. [SPEAKER_05]: That's important. [SPEAKER_05]: That is who we are as a country. [SPEAKER_05]: And more than any single decision is that the longest running Constitution or public and human history stays afloat. [SPEAKER_05]: That's the important part. [SPEAKER_05]: And the only way it does is if we respect the fucking law. [SPEAKER_03]: So let's take the voter ID then in North Carolina.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, who passed that and like how does that process work state by state? [SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm curious if some of these democratic states flip red, will they have the ability to enact it in case the save act doesn't go through? [SPEAKER_03]: How did North Carolina do it? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it was just a state legislature. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, here in North Carolina, we've got a super majority.

[SPEAKER_04]: We did have a, you know, a Democrat governor, but we had the ability to override [SPEAKER_04]: his vetoes. [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, if you can get a super majority in these states and still have a leftist governor, you can override those vetoes and actually get that that through the state governments. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm in that process, but it's not easy in a lot of these these states, you know, because they they have a foothold and it's.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's, you know, how the Democrats are. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's all, it's all, it's all idealism. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, it's all we're all going to hold hands and everyone's singing, who buy on shit. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's really hard to convince people that that's not the situation, because they were hearing what they want to hear.

[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, like you were saying, you can't, it's hard to be truthful with people when you're trying to win their votes. [SPEAKER_04]: And you gotta be distasteful.

[SPEAKER_04]: a lot of people are willing to do that, you know, once you give something, people give people something for free, you can't really take it back and so like, you know, things that we need to roll back like a time of programs, it's like asking these politicians to stab themselves in the back and they're not willing to do it because they, they're self-serving, they care about their career and not the actual process of governing, you know.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, when the government's primary [SPEAKER_05]: Focus becomes perpetuating its own existence rather than serving people and more importantly than even serving people is obeying the Constitution. [SPEAKER_05]: Then we've got a problem and it's the inverse of the problem that Alexander Tiddler outlined a long time ago. [SPEAKER_05]: We've talked about this before.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's a Scottish judge and he said that democracies are on a ticking clock because as soon as people figure out, [SPEAKER_05]: that they can get stuff and exchange for their vote, then they just start voting themselves large as from the treasury. [SPEAKER_05]: And at that point, it's just a matter of time before everything evaporates. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's only if, or that's if, no one [SPEAKER_05]: and government explains to them why that's not the case.

[SPEAKER_05]: And develops a culture where people, like JFK, pretty famously said, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. [SPEAKER_05]: People think, [SPEAKER_05]: that that's an antiquated idea, you wouldn't think that about your family, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, if you treat anybody in your life, that way, where there are some somebody that gets something from, or even the units, if the family unit is somebody or people or a group to get things from, or if your community is somebody to get something from or your city, your state, or whatever it is, you're an asshole. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: Frankly, I mean, that's just how it is. [SPEAKER_05]: And we depend on this in America.

[SPEAKER_05]: We have an all-volunteer military force, the largest ever assembled. [SPEAKER_05]: The best ever assembled in those art coincidences, opt in matters. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why we've been under constant attack. [SPEAKER_05]: That's why our culture is under constant attack. [SPEAKER_05]: where people try to cast our ancestors as evil somehow, despite the fact that one, they were doing the same thing that everybody else was doing.

[SPEAKER_05]: And two, there's two countries in the history of the world that have fought to end slavery. [SPEAKER_05]: You're sitting in one of them right now. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: What's the other number? [SPEAKER_05]: UK, England was the first. [SPEAKER_03]: Seems like they got slaves over there. [SPEAKER_05]: No, England and the Bosch slavery first, and then they set their navy out to all their vassal states to and they lost thousands of men in slavery.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no one talks about that, man. [SPEAKER_04]: No one literally talks about the world operated under slavery, but it was American England that literally stopped the global slavery in its tracks, literally. [SPEAKER_04]: It's frustrating. [SPEAKER_04]: Our education system, the mechanism for information distribution has been controlled.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's of my opinion that we need to one to away with the Department of Education, but if we're gonna keep it, what we do is we do a hiring process where we force the political balancing of the staff [SPEAKER_04]: You know, right now it's inherently left leaning, I'm not sure how we do that, but it's something that needs to be done if we're going to keep this type of system around.

[SPEAKER_04]: When it comes to news, you shouldn't be able to label it news if it's got Punditree involved. [SPEAKER_04]: That's inherently manipulative. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's something that, you know, is what's leading people to believe what they're hearing just, you know, these Punditree. [SPEAKER_04]: And so there's a lot that needs to be done if democracy as a system, you know.

[SPEAKER_04]: functioning within our, our Constitution Republic is to remain because if you can manipulate people, then you can manipulate their vote. [SPEAKER_04]: And again, we all, you know, you just talked about the historical, you know, push back against the concept of democracy and it's all very valid. [SPEAKER_04]: It's all very valid.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, since the Supreme Court is meeting and hearing these cases, uh, is this voting act going to be part of this bulk of cases that they're listening to, um, I know it usually goes in like terms or sessions, I forget what the exact, I don't, I don't think they're okay, they don't just take stuff up, somebody has to file a case. [SPEAKER_03]: No, well, this is already going through and then they were supposed to make a ruling potentially this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: So this happened back in October of last year. [SPEAKER_03]: What was the challenge? [SPEAKER_03]: It was Louisiana, in the state of Louisiana, Bob, I forget if you want to look up the name of the case. [SPEAKER_03]: It was involving certain districts allowing an extra candidate there. [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to flip. [SPEAKER_06]: Is it a redistricting case? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there we go. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: And it was, it would have potentially 39 seats.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is the Supreme Court has already ruled on a number of redistricting things. [SPEAKER_05]: They've upheld pretty much all of them. [SPEAKER_05]: So far, I think. [SPEAKER_05]: Or the courts have, I don't know, the Supreme Court specifically has. [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So this is the Voting Rights Act. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yes. [SPEAKER_06]: It's Louisiana versus Calay. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, it's section two of the Voting Rights Act.

[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and it's really, it's about redistricting. [SPEAKER_03]: Is that going to happen in this next run here of cases? [SPEAKER_05]: Because it usually goes like, yeah, well, that one and then, uh, birthright citizenship. [SPEAKER_05]: Those are the two that are coming out. [SPEAKER_05]: The two big ones.

[SPEAKER_05]: And when are they supposed to be on the dock either may or June probably although I think with the Voting Rights Act it may be in the next couple of weeks just because it's like it's going to affect things.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sure. [SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of state I think I'll think they'll decide it before may or June and the reason is [SPEAKER_05]: Most state constitutions require anywhere from six weeks to six months, before you can change things with regard to how you vote, you have to get people lead time and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_05]: Of course, Pennsylvania broke that law in 2020.

[SPEAKER_05]: As a number of other states, and nobody's ever got recourse for that for some reason, but typically there's a premium court rule on stuff to give people enough time within their state constitutions to make alterations. [SPEAKER_05]: Typically. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because that's a big one right there obviously that would flip potentially 39 seats in Congress potentially towards Republicans because let's face it's the seats that are out there are all in these inner cities and you know we heard jamanji Brown Jackson whatever fucking name is I can never get it right say that you know black people are disabled and they need this extra representative but if we can get that out of there that will certainly help this next election

[SPEAKER_03]: would certainly help the next election. [SPEAKER_03]: And then this birth rate citizenship will also help the next election. [SPEAKER_03]: But are we going to get [SPEAKER_03]: All of those before? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think the birthright citizenship's going to come into play in 26. [SPEAKER_05]: There's not time to adjudicate all that. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, and then a clean up voter rolls and shit, 28 for sure.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, next up, there's also a rumor that a Supreme Court justice is going to be potentially retiring. [SPEAKER_03]: And then they want that done, obviously, quickly, while Trump is in the air and he's got control of the Senate. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm not convinced that the Sanaces and the Supreme Court guy. [SPEAKER_05]: either.

[SPEAKER_05]: I said attorney general before, but the way this timing is working out, I could really see dissent as being the Supreme Court justice. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the name of the name that I heard this morning, which is what I wanted to bring him to you guys, was Ted Cruz. [SPEAKER_05]: Trump has actually mentioned Ted Cruz is a very good jurist, despite looking like a gay mortician and not knowing how to talk to people about K. So, which I mean, he's Cuban.

[SPEAKER_05]: Why are you talking about cheese? [SPEAKER_05]: There's no cheese [SPEAKER_05]: Despite that, he is a very knowledgeable jurist of all the people that are talking about what is and isn't constitutional in government. [SPEAKER_05]: He's on the right. [SPEAKER_05]: He's probably up there. [SPEAKER_05]: He's up there. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, honestly, I could see it being Andrew Bailey too, although he's kind of young. [SPEAKER_03]: He'd be great.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look, I think the younger, the better, because they can stay there longer. [SPEAKER_05]: Andrew Bailey is a [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I think he's gonna be the director of the FBI. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's my, that's what Steven Miller. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Steven Miller's a piece. [SPEAKER_05]: Steven Miller, you can't put him in scota, so he would never get anything done of you in here. [SPEAKER_03]: He would call it everybody. [SPEAKER_03]: Not a million years.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I wish. [SPEAKER_03]: But speaking of Ted Cruz exactly, he said something pretty surprising yesterday. [SPEAKER_03]: He said it is entirely possible. [SPEAKER_03]: I ran Venezuela and Cuba, all the regimes will fall in the next six months.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well Cuba's almost done so right now I haven't heard about anything about you right now uh... mark a rubio's been having back channel discussions with uh... caster's grandson uh... about like are you going to take this country over and do the right thing or what basically is what what's going on because they're fucked right now there are a hundred and a hundred percent reliant on Venezuelan oil and now it's all dried up [SPEAKER_05]: So it's just a matter of time.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is siege warfare. [SPEAKER_05]: They can't get any resources anywhere else. [SPEAKER_05]: So we're just waiting for them to be like, all right, cool, we get a lot of nutrition. [SPEAKER_03]: The name Castro, though, it's just, that's a tough pill to swallow, I think, for most of them. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, do you want another cash show in there? [SPEAKER_05]: I guess maybe, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, as long as he's pro west, I mean, the thing is historically regime changes never really going our favor. [SPEAKER_04]: So we got to choose someone that the local populist or respect, however, will they or is that something that we've just kind of falling for the leftist popper propaganda, popping him up, right? [SPEAKER_04]: And so that's something that I'm worried about as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know because obviously Castro Castro Castro has been embedded in every right Cuban mind for she's Christ 80 years longer maybe the last thing they want to hear is no No, no, this is going to be a good Castro I promise [SPEAKER_03]: be like a Hitler running in Germany, or you're just like, wait, no, no, but I'm the good one. [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm the like this six grand son or whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: And I totally don't believe it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like ants.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I want to hear that name in the news every single day. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm curious about Castro. [SPEAKER_03]: I think might be somebody else. [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody else pitched, and this is bananas. [SPEAKER_03]: But Ellie and Gonzales, from the rap. [SPEAKER_05]: He did run for like Congress or some shit down there. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, what it was. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, remember the kid they found on the closet?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I forget what administration that was. [SPEAKER_04]: Bill, Bill Clinton. [SPEAKER_03]: Was it Clinton? [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's Clinton. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's Clinton. [SPEAKER_04]: That'd be a high rating. [SPEAKER_03]: And they had him on the closet with the machine gun. [SPEAKER_04]: I've got that in P5, by the way. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure it's underneath the feet right now. [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, looking at that, Bob, can you look him up?

[SPEAKER_06]: Somebody mentioned that. [SPEAKER_06]: He is in their legislator. [SPEAKER_06]: Shut the fuck up. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he did get it. [SPEAKER_05]: How old is he now? [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, it's in the 30s, I think. [SPEAKER_06]: Wow. [SPEAKER_06]: He's 32. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: He is, I mean, technically, he, you know, what's his stance? [SPEAKER_06]: Well, technically, he's in the communist party. [SPEAKER_06]: So, but everyone is, uh, that's funny.

[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, all right. [SPEAKER_03]: That's wild. [SPEAKER_05]: Because I'm breaking news. [SPEAKER_05]: God, the son of the Norwegian Crown Princess, who reportedly visited Epstein's Island with her 29-year-old son, yeah, he's 29. [SPEAKER_05]: His name's Hobie, or something, H.O.I.B. [SPEAKER_05]: Why I have no idea what that, how you say that. [SPEAKER_05]: Hobie was from Baywatch. [SPEAKER_05]: Has been detained and is facing 38 charges, including the rape of four women.

[SPEAKER_03]: Related to the Epstein thing? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why they would use both of those in the same headline if that weren't true, but who knows? [SPEAKER_03]: I, if I, memory certainly crack and Bobby can fact check me on this. [SPEAKER_03]: Wasn't this the woman who said you're a fucking loser if you didn't go to Epstein Island? [SPEAKER_03]: I believe it's the same lady who was on Pierce Morgan the other night. [SPEAKER_03]: She was like, oh, let's face it.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you want, you know, on the list. [SPEAKER_03]: Aren't you kind of a fucking loser? [SPEAKER_03]: And it was great. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Pierce Morgan, and then she brought up at Pierce Morgan, but she talked about Pierce Morgan being on the list. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the woman. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's her grandson. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_03]: I look it up. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that chick was British. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll try to find it.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's Prince Andrew's ex. [SPEAKER_05]: He's not the same person. [SPEAKER_05]: He's not the same person. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Why would Norwegian woman have a British accent? [SPEAKER_03]: Why not, dude. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I pick it up from time to time. [SPEAKER_03]: Adonis got one. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I think this was all stuff from domestic charges. [SPEAKER_05]: He's just been raping in Oslo. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh shit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing on Epstein or he's just been raping at home. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, she didn't take him to the island back in the day. [SPEAKER_05]: But he's only 29. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a whole could of been. [SPEAKER_03]: Old enough, dude. [SPEAKER_03]: What was the age on Epstein Island? [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a stick at the fair where they kind of put the child up there and be like, well, sorry, you're too tall for this, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that fucking shit is crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: So is it in relation to Epstein or no? [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: So back to our random quick guys. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I want to hear what your thoughts are on this. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm all about, in my opinion, we should be bombing all illegal in uranium. [SPEAKER_04]: enrichment facilities. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think any country we should allow underneath, you know, the not nuclear non-proliferation agreement.

[SPEAKER_04]: Anyone that's not signed on to that should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. [SPEAKER_05]: Is that including Israel? [SPEAKER_04]: absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: And so that's the thing is we should be working with Russia and China to flex our own backyards to force the removal of those weapons, that way everyone's on a fair ground. [SPEAKER_04]: And that would work towards also, you know, deconstructing our own nuclear arm capability.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing, man, is we got to start moving towards that type of movement and that's why I get pushed back because I say that we need to work a little bit better with Russia in terms of, you know, global Christian Western order and also as a way to drive back the Chinese push for, you know, the one belt road initiatives are debt.

[SPEAKER_04]: situation and so having clear trade routes of the north in alignment with Russia would allow for a domination of global trade, which would keep our dollar propped up, it would break bricks apart. [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't understand what we're not moving towards that. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I think I have my own ideas with the whole military industrial complex and whatnot.

[SPEAKER_04]: But now, man, you know, that's something that I think we really need to be talking about is, you know, denuclearization and actually holding these countries that have these illegal nuclear arms accountable. [SPEAKER_04]: We have the flexibility and our, you know, the might to hold them accountable, but we don't. [SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I look, I can tell you, I mean, straight out the gate, America, that's a no go.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't never ever happen. [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about? [SPEAKER_03]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: Us denuclearizing our own nuclear war ads. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, we're like, we're not definitely that. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: Israel is real for, you know, obvious reasons, shit. [SPEAKER_03]: We've been in bed with them forever. [SPEAKER_03]: That will never end, I don't think.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't mind that you should be in partnership with Israel, but they should be subject to the same laws as everybody else. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: They shouldn't have nukes if less they're going to declare them. [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_05]: You can blame France for that. [SPEAKER_05]: France is the ones that gave him two of them. [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't us. [SPEAKER_03]: No shit. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, technically.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do it, does everybody know this is coming? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so there was an agency guy, a guy for the CIA, who was super pro Zionist. [SPEAKER_04]: Hollard, John Hollard. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he's one of them, but there's another guy. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he's talking to another guy, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's another guy. [SPEAKER_05]: So that helped leak secrets to Israel about our nuclear program. [SPEAKER_05]: But France is the one that really get got them up to speed.

[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, they should be subject to the same rules everybody else. [SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't they be? [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: I the US will never give it up, by the way. [SPEAKER_03]: That's just that's a pipe train. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't want to give them up completely, but I do want to draw back the numbers. [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, it's a deterrent against the major powers, but anyone that's not on that nuclear non-proliferation pact, I think, should be, you know, I think we can lean into China to help the nuclearized North Korea, we can lean into Russia to help the nuclearized Pakistan, you know, we could help try and remove them from, you know, Israel, probably not going to happen, but

[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing is we all have our allies in the backyard that have illegal nuclear weapons and that's something that we need to, as we engage in this global conflict, the ability for those to go missing and dirty bombs to start going off is just, that's our worst nightmare, man. [SPEAKER_04]: We can't allow that type of destabilization to take effect. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, it was James Engelton, by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: He was the Engelton.

[SPEAKER_05]: the counterintelligence liaison from the agency to Israel. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was stationed there when Diamond was being stood up. [SPEAKER_05]: So there's a lot, I mean, there's a lot of smoke that he was involved in it. [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's probably true. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it was against the wishes of JFK, by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: Some people think that's one of the reasons that Ages had clipped him because the Ages he wanted is real to have nukes, very clearly.

[SPEAKER_05]: They sent their top, like he was third in the fucking command or something like that, by the time he got out of there. [SPEAKER_05]: So they were awarded him for doing it. [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people think that the Ages he wasn't just about the Bay of Pigs, they clipped JFK because he was getting in the way of that. [SPEAKER_05]: Very good. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, who knows, I mean, who knows, really, but, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Why did they want Israel to have nuke back then?

[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't they just become a country in like 1948 or something? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but, you know, they stood up pretty quickly. [SPEAKER_05]: They had a well-functioning government almost immediately. [SPEAKER_05]: And we got the La Vonna Fair. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: No, we're the Egyptian Muslim or upside Egyptian Jews. [SPEAKER_04]: We're trying to, you know, design this, is a Zionist plot.

[SPEAKER_04]: Man, the same with USS Liberty to try and pull us into the six-day war, man. [SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's, it's, [SPEAKER_04]: I somewhat argue that the clean break strategy and this new American century is why we've been in the Middle East since, you know, 9-11 spending $6 trillion or I'm sorry, it's like $20 trillion in the desert for no real benefit except to flood Europe with migrants. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, wow, there's more benefit than that. [SPEAKER_05]: It made.

[SPEAKER_05]: Of course. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but in industrial complex, a lot of money. [SPEAKER_05]: These people in the agency found their perfect counterpart in politics with the Neocon people. [SPEAKER_05]: The Neocons are primarily trotsky-ites, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like, let's say, center-right, Marxist, maybe.

[SPEAKER_05]: You can call it that, they believe in traditional conservative social values, but they assume that Marxism or some form of socialism would be the wave of the future, and there's no stopping it. [SPEAKER_05]: So they're like, OK, well, let's do it from a security standpoint. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's do Marxism, but it's security based, both internal and external. [SPEAKER_05]: That's who George W. Bush is, that's who Dick Cheney is, that's all those guys, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: And they made a lot of money doing this stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: And they were wrong. [SPEAKER_05]: The policy itself is wrong. [SPEAKER_05]: Because there's an assumption baked into it that white Europeans and white Westerners in general could go into brown countries and tell them how to live their life. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's just not how it reality works. [SPEAKER_05]: It took us, I've tracked through all this many times before on the show, so I'll go through it.

[SPEAKER_05]: But it took us 2,000 years. [SPEAKER_05]: to figure this all out, literally 2,000 years, to figure it all out, you're not going to drop it on somebody and it doesn't, this is not how it works, so, you know, it's fucking fundamentally stupid. [SPEAKER_05]: Like me. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like me. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like me. [SPEAKER_05]: Like me. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like me. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like me. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like me. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like me.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like me. [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have business in the Middle East. [SPEAKER_05]: They have energy. [SPEAKER_05]: Do we like? [SPEAKER_05]: They have trade routes that we like between like the straight home moves. [SPEAKER_05]: For example, we're going to continue using it less so than Europe does. [SPEAKER_05]: But what happens to the American Petra dollar? [SPEAKER_05]: If one were not involved, and two Europe struggles, it goes down, and that fucks us.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, it's like, I think focusing on Israel's as the issue with this is very narrow-minded, frankly. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm reading the chat here. [SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty fun. [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, man, this guy dreams big. [SPEAKER_03]: Israel's not going to comply with that. [SPEAKER_03]: China policing North Korea. [SPEAKER_03]: Good luck with that as well. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, to be frank, China does try.

[SPEAKER_05]: They try to police North Korea, but you can't, but that's like saying, you're going to police a rabid fucking pit bull. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, if you miss one second, it tears a kid's face off. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: North Korea has a buddy prying their hands off of them. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't, like, did it's not even in question.

[SPEAKER_05]: It wouldn't, it would be unreasonable to ask is really to give up its nuclear weapons when it's the only Jewish state. [SPEAKER_05]: and it's surrounded by enemies. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's an unreasonable ask. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not unreasonable to say, follow fucking rules that everybody else does. [SPEAKER_03]: That's all mess. [SPEAKER_03]: That's good. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's a very reasonable thing to ask. [SPEAKER_03]: What is that proposal look like then?

[SPEAKER_05]: It's there's an IAEA. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: There's an international, like there's an agreement about who can have atomic weapons, not who necessarily, but how atomic weapons can be had. [SPEAKER_05]: you can't test them in space. [SPEAKER_05]: You can't test them underground. [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of different shit you can't do.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's a nonproliferation agreement which means there's a cap on how much it's supposed to be making and blah blah blah and if you don't meet certain human rights requirements you're not supposed to be doing stuff whatever right. [SPEAKER_05]: These are all things that Israel already qualifies for by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: They just don't want to tell the world. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't understand it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Because everybody knows about- What are your new thoughts and options? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: That's everybody already knows that Israel has a new experience. [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody knows that they meet all the qualifications for that. [SPEAKER_05]: They're not developing them at a rapid pace because we could see it on a fucking satellite if that were the case. [SPEAKER_05]: So this doesn't make any sense to me.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think they just want a fucking play tough guy and not let anybody tell them what to do. [SPEAKER_05]: That's honestly what I think it is. [SPEAKER_03]: No idea, what is the, tell the audience with the Samson thing is the Samson option. [SPEAKER_04]: That's basically is really form of deterrence, which is basically like if they're ever overcome to launch all their nuclear weapons to various targets around the world.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's basically referring to Samson and the Bible where he pulls down the pillars, destroyed, killing himself, but destroying everyone in the table. [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to get wiped out, they send all their nukes at every Arab capital in the region. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they've got European capitals apparently listed as well, which is interesting. [SPEAKER_04]: Why would they do that? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think that's true. [SPEAKER_05]: I've seen it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's what I've heard. [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, I don't think that they've ever released anything like that. [SPEAKER_04]: But with that being said, it's not, I don't know. [SPEAKER_04]: That's, it's seemingly interesting why we defend them with such vigor without even charging them money. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's just, I'm all about helping friends out and giving them what they need. [SPEAKER_04]: But like, why do we need to pay for it all and fund it all?

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, give us some shuttles, please. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I don't understand about it's really either like do we pay us and go out to money pay us one two Yeah, you're doing fine on your own with wars and everything else dude. [SPEAKER_03]: I like it's my not even missiles, but pay us Yeah, but it's my knowledge to and correct me if I'm wrong have they asked us for money? [SPEAKER_03]: Have they said hey pay us to do shit?

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, so we invested in the Iron Dome, it was our original tech, and we gave it to them. [SPEAKER_05]: I guess we could call that sweat equity. [SPEAKER_05]: Why? [SPEAKER_05]: So they could develop it. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Test it. [SPEAKER_05]: Test it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And now they've been using it for some amount of time and have gotten really good at it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And now we're going to take that and expand it across all of North America and call it the Golden Dome. [SPEAKER_05]: So that's it. [SPEAKER_03]: That's it with the guinea pig for this. [SPEAKER_05]: That's right. [SPEAKER_05]: But they asked for it. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they asked for it. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's for a lot of technology when you look at what happened in Gaza, there was a lot of use of tech now.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not, you know, exactly what all it was, but they used a lot of new types of drone technology to, you know, all sorts of things. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a testing ground for sure. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and it's, it's again, it's one thing to support them. [SPEAKER_04]: It's another thing to pay for it all. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you can support and also get paid.

[SPEAKER_04]: you know, and that's the thing that I'm care about is America, you know, we can support that ally, but they need to they need to pay us for the supplies that we give them in some fashion. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, the golden dome is going to be one of the biggest returns on investment for military hardware we've ever had ever in the history of the country. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, to develop that for them. [SPEAKER_05]: To some degree, yeah, but not entirely.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they spent their lives doing it as well, which is quite a bit more costly than money, typically. [SPEAKER_05]: And some of those bombs got through rockets, while I mean, they just had a war there, all this other stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: But I think one of the other ways that they could definitely, one, they do purchase Adam Markup, a lot of our weapon systems, which is fine, but a lot of other countries do that as well. [SPEAKER_05]: Israel produces quite a bit of medical tech.

[SPEAKER_05]: Pace makers all kinds of other shit like that. [SPEAKER_05]: I kind of feel like we should get Flucking tear free Pretty much any medical stuff we want anything that they have custom patented What it's gonna say slide slide. [SPEAKER_03]: It was some of those patents.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well whenever they have custom patented When it comes to Pharmaceuticals and medical devices, I think we should get bypassed on that because we have helped them out quite a bit Like I don't want I don't we you don't want to make it predatory where you're digging into their ability [SPEAKER_05]: to, as you say, be able to take care of themselves. [SPEAKER_05]: You don't want to fucking run a fucking protection racket. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: But we've helped them out quite a bit. [SPEAKER_05]: I expect them to return the fear. [SPEAKER_05]: And they do, by the way, they provide us with the pride. [SPEAKER_05]: Like most of the intelligence we get on Middle Eastern and European affairs comes from Israel, not from UK. [SPEAKER_05]: UK's second place. [SPEAKER_05]: Ironically, third place is Saudi Arabia. [SPEAKER_05]: No shit. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we haven't agreed with them.

[SPEAKER_05]: that we launched after 9.11, where we spy on, so they have, it's in their constitution, yeah, it's, it's, it's in their constitution that they're allowed to spy on their own citizens, so we do it for them in the hand of the information. [SPEAKER_04]: We contract now. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then in return, they give us pretty much any information we want. [SPEAKER_04]: But isn't that corrupted, it's layman like we're paying, like, I'll spine your scissors and you spine my scissors.

[SPEAKER_04]: It would just swipe like that's not a good behavior of government man. [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's crazy that we allow that it's crazy that we allow any this shit. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's be honest. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is all fucked all the way around. [SPEAKER_03]: Crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I, here's why I wrote for people like you because, and this is why I think these conversations are valuable. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm 95% of America.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's probably 5% of America. [SPEAKER_03]: It's to be honest with you. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, as far as knowledge of the Constitution, how the, you know, the, the three branches of government work and all that other stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm, I'm the guy who's, all right, cool man. [SPEAKER_03]: I go to work. [SPEAKER_03]: I got three kids that coach their stuff at night and and everything else.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't necessarily have as much time as on my hands to study all the shit or read all the shit and everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: But I vote the same ways.

[SPEAKER_03]: He gets to vote right and you need to convince everybody all the way around so that's why I personally love having these conversations because a lot of this shit I don't know To be honest with you, and they don't teach it like they used to in school any more in shit when I went to college [SPEAKER_03]: I learned none of it. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that went all out the window. [SPEAKER_03]: Most of my electives were foreign.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Chinese 101, I think it was the Ming Dynasty I took, like, all kinds of other shit. [SPEAKER_03]: Constitution wasn't a mandatory course. [SPEAKER_03]: That college is, you know? [SPEAKER_03]: Like, none of this was mandatory. [SPEAKER_03]: It's at a lot of schools. [SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, I asked my kids when they come home, what they're learning about. [SPEAKER_03]: History is kind of skewed for them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we had different history books [SPEAKER_03]: Now obviously everything is able to change because we've got more information and more facts about history than ever, but it still depends on who's writing it, where the text is coming from, and what they want to teach at the end of the day, which, you know, very successful by seeing both. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it all seems like self. [SPEAKER_04]: destructive philosophy. [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's never looking at yourself positively when we teach this stuff to our children. [SPEAKER_04]: It's all with a critical appeal. [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, it's one thing to have critical approaches to events, but it's another to teach them like your whole nation sucks. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's kind of what public schools seem to be doing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Again, we got to get a hold of something [SPEAKER_04]: either destroy the Department of Education return it back to states in the communities or you know I'm gonna be homeschooling I'm not a lot of you brother I don't trust the school districts I even the ones that they say are good I don't trust them man the wife are gonna be homeschooling a couple of friends kids as well I just I don't trust their their level of curriculum if I'm being honest with you

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that was one of the things that Trump had promised was destroying the Department of Education. [SPEAKER_03]: Dan, that department is not destroyed yet, matter of fact, they got more funding. [SPEAKER_03]: And this last budget bill they passed, why? [SPEAKER_03]: And how long is this going to go on for? [SPEAKER_03]: I thought Linda McMahon's job was to destroy the Department of Education. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: Take away her own job.

[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't really been. [SPEAKER_05]: keep it up with that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to be honest. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I just saw it passing that bill as far as the spending bill goes. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of fucking money in there for the Department of Education for some reason.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and what these to happen, man, is the U.S. government needs to stop handing out these student loans and the institutions themselves need to be on the hook for these student loans, which would force these institutions to stop promoting such degrees, which do not have a return on investment, which they will not be advertising because they know they need their money back, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: And so, I think that inherently would clean out a lot of these dumb Marxist [SPEAKER_04]: These classes that are inherently destroying and distorting actual education and the institutions that provide them, you know, it's it's it's interesting that the federal government is backing student loans. [SPEAKER_04]: That's weird. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's a weird thing that we need to address immediately and shift.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because I think again, if you shift that back to the institutions, they'll clear out their levels of teaching this madness really quickly because they won't make their money back and they can't allow that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to have somebody like you get in and then come back.

[SPEAKER_03]: This was always my dream on the show, like just a normal person to get in and then come back and say, all right, here's what I learned and it's all fucking crazy and then just follow the stories. [SPEAKER_03]: That has yet to happen for some reason. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I really want to know. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why we have candidates like you on and look, yes, you're going against, [SPEAKER_03]: Goliath and and ironically, there's two David's there.

[SPEAKER_03]: You and David Rouser, but I hope it happens, man, I just want somebody to get in and then come back and tell everything that's really going on there and how all this shit works. [SPEAKER_04]: That's all I care about, man. [SPEAKER_04]: It's literally getting the truth out. [SPEAKER_04]: Which is why I don't know if I'm gonna make it. [SPEAKER_04]: Because if I do make it, they're not gonna let me make it. [SPEAKER_04]: And so there's a lot of political violence out there.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's the note thing I prayed on. [SPEAKER_04]: The thing is, man, if we can't, if we're not willing to take those risks or self, we can't ask other men to take them for us. [SPEAKER_04]: And so, that's the thing, man. [SPEAKER_04]: We just gotta step it up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, now's the point to show we get to the drinking bro the week, which is someone who has inspired you or helps you become the person you are today, [SPEAKER_04]: This gentleman named Frank Roberts, he's my mentor down here at Wilmington. [SPEAKER_04]: This man is a machine, he's about 80, he's not actually 80, but he's getting up there, man. [SPEAKER_04]: He's a machine in the community. [SPEAKER_04]: He's always doing things for veterans.

[SPEAKER_04]: If there's someone who calls him and needs a problem or has a problem, he shows up. [SPEAKER_04]: He's really been, you know, teaching me how to be a good leader in the community, especially in the veteran side, but really for everyone. [SPEAKER_04]: But Frank Roberts is a great man and I really appreciate him in my life and I wish there was more men like him and hopefully we can make some more men like him so [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well hey man.

[SPEAKER_03]: I wish you the best to luck. [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously we'll have the results here in about what two weeks. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's coming up, brother. [SPEAKER_04]: It's coming up. [SPEAKER_04]: Man's fast. [SPEAKER_04]: It's moving fast. [SPEAKER_03]: It's moving fast. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're out there, please go and vote in the primaries. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they are just as important as the general election.

[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people forgets and a lot of people in most states don't know what day they're actually on. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so go out and vote now because a lot of states early voting is already started. [SPEAKER_03]: Texas has and you said North Carolina has as well. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, sir. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, sir, please. [SPEAKER_04]: Take a look on my website and see the number four buzzer.org if you get a chance. [SPEAKER_04]: Take a look at it, man.

[SPEAKER_04]: I believe our sharp and siren and so reach out to me. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm an open book and I'd love to reach out, you know, talk to everyone that reaches out to me. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it was a pleasure having you on. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's catch up over beers, it's Wilmington Brewery. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that's, I go there a lot, actually. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

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