Episode 1599 - Firearm Expert Breaks Down ICE Shooting

[SPEAKER_03]: Sit back relax, and have a bucket sure is ready for it [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I'm going to drink in bro's kids. [SPEAKER_04]: Anthony, Anthony, Holloway is finally on a flight out of North Carolina in the East Coast after what's no apocalypse, 20, 20, six here, but luckily we had a guest on today that we booked in advance for this and his name is Kyle, pronounced that last name for me. [SPEAKER_04]: Growth use I didn't want to do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want to do it to know you know and just finally started to get warm in the studio I was like, I don't want to fuck it up today by fucking up his name. [SPEAKER_04]: I want to fuck a good vibe. [SPEAKER_04]: It is it is from customizationstation.com Experts in the firearms business here and wanted to have you on to break down This ice shooting that happens over the weekends.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just want to hear from a professional [SPEAKER_04]: what your honest take is on this and uh... and why this happened kind of break down the gun and everything else a lot of new footage has dropped this morning and uh... will get to it here in a second at the top of the show though i do want to mention uh... dinner i will be in Tampa on Friday night live doing a live show down there at the downtown food mart six to eight p.m. one nine five five west castrate in Tampa florida

[SPEAKER_04]: Selters some fun some laughs. [SPEAKER_04]: I know one in them are popping out Charles Eller in them are popping out I think read white's gonna join us God of a Friday night show. [SPEAKER_04]: What's the weather like down in Florida? [SPEAKER_04]: They going through shit too? [SPEAKER_05]: Are you sure it's been better.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was getting cooler in Tampa because there's another cold front coming in across the country So we're trying to fly outs and then back in real quick So we don't Hit the next pattern of whatever it was shit last time we were in Tampa flag. [SPEAKER_04]: I can't since six times So me and my wife had to [SPEAKER_04]: go down to Miami, figure that out, and try to get back for the kids and everything else. [SPEAKER_06]: Not a bad place to have to go hang out for.

[SPEAKER_04]: I typically would say that. [SPEAKER_04]: When you have kids that are waiting on you, no. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a no-go there, and Nanny, [SPEAKER_04]: Nanny's, you know, has a breaking. [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody's going to breaking point. [SPEAKER_04]: It's very true. [SPEAKER_04]: Especially in the holidays. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: But thanks for making the track here. [SPEAKER_04]: Where are you at in Texas?

[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm in Farrow, which is just south of Bernie. [SPEAKER_06]: We're most like, guys, live in it. [SPEAKER_04]: How was the drive-up? [SPEAKER_04]: Was it okay today? [SPEAKER_06]: It was pretty good. [SPEAKER_06]: There's a little stretch between Blanco and dripping that had some snow still way to go slow. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we got all the schools or cancels here. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, to school is a cancel. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, flights for cancel this morning.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've heard because it was warmed up now in the afternoon since stuff is finally starting to melt Bernie Bernie started late. [SPEAKER_06]: My wife's a teacher. [SPEAKER_06]: They started at 10. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I got you got you guys. [SPEAKER_04]: They pushed it back. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, kids are home again. [SPEAKER_04]: And my wife's gonna lose her mind is to stay fine. [SPEAKER_06]: It's fun for a couple days, and that's what I was like.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, or if you live in that region of the country, I don't mind it. [SPEAKER_04]: Because you know where you live and everything else. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's just not prepared for it. [SPEAKER_04]: I played the footage yesterday where cars were just abandoned on the side of the road, on the way to work. [SPEAKER_04]: It was like a six inches of ice in our parking lots. [SPEAKER_04]: I had to park up somebody else's fucking place.

[SPEAKER_06]: I remember when San Antonio had, this was about 10 years ago. [SPEAKER_06]: We had the first like snow thing we've had in a long time, and they started to treat the roads, but they didn't know what they're doing, and they use some chemical that actually made it worse. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, dude, I still had today was it some brown thing or orange thing, and it was like, I've never seen that my life.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, people were sliding off the fricking road and stuff, and it was, because they tried to treat the road and they're trying to be smart about it and fucked it up even worse. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, yeah, it's just don't think people know what they're fucking doing at the end of the day and the south and the south No, I've lived in the northern states and you're like, right cool. [SPEAKER_04]: It gives a shit. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't give a shit about this I drove in.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was like awesome. [SPEAKER_04]: I got to pick up truck. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't even think the city is saying Tony owns a snow plow. [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe for the airport They had one here. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, did they really want one so they cleared off 35 which allowed Spiron to get to work And then they cleared off well they were clearing off two ninety on the way in But yeah, dude, it was it was bad [SPEAKER_04]: It was really bad, and I think today's the end of it, hopefully.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sounds like it. [SPEAKER_04]: Got a big deal going through for a hard day of self-serum, I don't know if I need Dan here to sign some fucking documents. [SPEAKER_06]: I keep saying something about there might be snow this weekend, but I keep looking at the forecast, and it's like 10% so that won't make shit. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, shoot, I don't even want to hear that. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, thank you for being here.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for tracking through the snow, and the ice and all that other stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: We appreciate it. [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, before we show these videos that just got released, what were your thoughts over the weekend when you saw yet another ice shooting up in Minnesota? [SPEAKER_06]: Man, my thing is, it sucks, there's another one, and this one's not as cut and dry as the first one.

[SPEAKER_06]: There's another one, there's a third one today, there's another one in Arizona today. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I did not see it. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if the person died, but there was a shooting in Arizona today. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, interesting. [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I'm with you. [SPEAKER_04]: So the first one, site was very obvious. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Second one, we'll go through the video here because the more and more of these videos that come out, I'm not sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to get your take on it. [SPEAKER_04]: Also, with the creation of AI, man, it is getting fucking tough to believe what you're seeing. [SPEAKER_04]: And everybody's picking the videos that they want to see for their own side. [SPEAKER_04]: I just want the real fucking story. [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever it is. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's hard. [SPEAKER_06]: You go out there and like have the stuff you see us fake.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, there's one like, oh, you can see the gun in his hand. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Bob, I just texted you that picture. [SPEAKER_04]: Pop it up on screen, because it's another thing the media is doing. [SPEAKER_04]: And I always, everybody knows who's from the show.

[SPEAKER_04]: I say to the time, I watch mainstream news every single night, because I want to know what's going out to [SPEAKER_04]: America and then I try to watch local news and it's only it's quick. [SPEAKER_04]: Each one's about a half hour ABC NBC CBS the way that they write these are so slain and towards the left that you're just like I mean you I threw my hands up in the air.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's like my wife is like my wife is like politics and I think that she's just like [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe fucking kid me the way that this shit is worded and the baby picks and then changing the picks So here's the new one popped us up on screens from being libertarian. [SPEAKER_04]: I think online So that's Alex's pretty picture on the left the real one.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I got a they changed the tone Make them a little little warmer and I like that's like a deadfish Because this the guy and and I know why they're doing it the guy on the left

[SPEAKER_04]: not a lot of sympathy for we were like all right this looks like the rest of these weird fucking antifa fuckers and you don't really give a shit the guy on the right looks like an upstanding doctor who's tan-fold life zest and zeal out there and this was a real fucking tragedy um but if it is a real tragedy I want to know about it I don't want this fake shit thrown in my face from from the news outlets so this was MSNBC who colored this up [SPEAKER_04]: This wasn't the internet.

[SPEAKER_04]: This was actually on MSNBC last night's. [SPEAKER_04]: Read the caption underneath it Bob. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm blocked by camera one. [SPEAKER_07]: on the bottom? [SPEAKER_07]: Yep. [SPEAKER_07]: Imagine getting clapped and they feel like you wanted to track enough to use your real photo. [SPEAKER_06]: That should all be our goal. [SPEAKER_06]: If we get shot in the street, at least we'll put our real photo up.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know, and if they don't like you, they'll use the worst photos. [SPEAKER_04]: Like Trump on the cover of time. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh God. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he created peace in the Middle East. [SPEAKER_04]: Show that Trump picture on the cover of time. [SPEAKER_04]: It's the worst photo that you could use of a human being.

[SPEAKER_04]: possible and that the angle they shot up from was like underneath him lying on the ground and then they deleted his hair on top that there it is Do you think it looks like like he's a hundred it's insane

[SPEAKER_04]: It's in scent like it if you see the pictures that they do him bald with them with a beard Yeah, he'd actually look really good I look like he'd look fucking sweet Um, and here's the weird thing and in real life when you it's like if you meet him He's actually not as fat he's not as and he's the decent looking dude and you're like all right man I understand the allure of it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean he's pulled some serious ass over the years so I mean he can't be that bad Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean even when I met Biden You know the only thing I could really say negative about him looks wise appearance wise [SPEAKER_04]: was that he was like one fifty five at the time and I've ever seen somebody with me I was like, and it's like his cancer and turns out he did it honestly, but he looked you know, normal enough when he was awake.

[SPEAKER_06]: The only bad thing, you know, like I've heard from a lot of people at Trump, he is a great host, he's a super nice guy in person, you know, the only thing that drives me crazy about him is that he eats well done stakes with ketchup, and that's just, that's just gross.

[SPEAKER_06]: Look. [SPEAKER_04]: He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you said this far as I'll go.

[SPEAKER_06]: Do you see a thing of Robert F. Kennedy where he's like talking about Trump's eating happening? [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, I'm surprised he's not dead. [SPEAKER_04]: I know. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's by the way, that's what I love about this cabinet is the candor of it. [SPEAKER_04]: And I genuinely believe they're trying to figure this out behind the scenes right now. [SPEAKER_04]: This shooting here that we're about to pop up because my frustration lies in this.

[SPEAKER_04]: If these people weren't tipped off, [SPEAKER_04]: And they weren't getting coordinates and fucking trying to organize shit and everything else where was this one Obama was there because Obama was he he deported more people and he was the ghost yeah the the goat of deportation Now dance that a lot of these guys were catching release at the border and they stacked those numbers on top of them I don't even give a shit about that just get them out of the goddamn country.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm I'm fine with it and I don't care whether it's a Republican or a Democrat like [SPEAKER_04]: And even Trump recognized how great Obama's ice guy was, Tom Homan. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's it's great all fucking using for my administration, which is what you should do. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't care. [SPEAKER_04]: But people in good jobs. [SPEAKER_04]: That that's it. [SPEAKER_04]: Just go off a talent, talent alone.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's been the one major difference between Trump, the first term, the second term is he, he put better people on his cabinet. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I think the first term, he wasn't prepared. [SPEAKER_06]: He didn't know what to do. [SPEAKER_04]: And I can understand why now, having seen [SPEAKER_04]: almost all of it up close and when I say almost all of it, not just inside the White House and behind the scenes.

[SPEAKER_04]: Having gone to the inauguration and seeing what that's like and getting ready for in the parties and all of this shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: you're kind of just raced around party after party after party it's all fucking day long friday saturday sunday and then the inaugurations on a monday well they most people who come in their new to the job they don't realize they should have hired or started the hiring process for their cabinet months before i mean the day after the election is in my opinion skip the fucking party start hiring people now and and because the the pushing in process of all these people in the votes and you need from senate and everything else

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I started saying one and it can push out for six months if you don't have your guys I think he listened to too many people who were there long-term politicians Yeah, swamp people and then made some bad decisions on that I think his first presidency was a success.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, as far as what he did He's about to turn over the country that first year then he kind of got the firing firing firing firing firing firing and then it was like all right I finally got some people here who aren't trying to sell me out for a fucking book deal [SPEAKER_04]: Behind the scenes, I've heard that he is actually looking into the shooting right now to try to figure it out. [SPEAKER_06]: I saw they fired the head, the board of the truck.

[SPEAKER_06]: This wasn't ice that dead, this was board of the truck. [SPEAKER_06]: Right, so they fire the headboard of a troll guy saw them and you know what they're Move dimmer whatever yeah, as I really find that I heard that bovino. [SPEAKER_04]: I think his name was yeah, even that I heard was was fake Here's retiring type of thing.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm let's see here I see the lot you know after he met with the generals and it's like all this gentle so-and-so is Quitting because he's mad with the administration. [SPEAKER_04]: He's actually shit. [SPEAKER_04]: Carolina, leave it. [SPEAKER_04]: It's talking about it [SPEAKER_04]: She's just shared it. [SPEAKER_04]: So Bob go to your chat and play this from her. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see White House Press Secretary And see what she says about him.

[SPEAKER_04]: At least we'll have it directly from the White House here because I saw the same thing back and forth Oh, they were gonna fire them there. [SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna get rid of them or or put them somewhere else Transferred in which in the mill, you know, and that line of work is basically being fired, you know, yeah press play [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Bobino is a wonderful man and he's a great professional.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is going to have very much continue to lead customs and border patrol throughout and across the country. [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Homein will be the main point of contact on the ground in Minneapolis. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, there's your answer. [SPEAKER_04]: So at least we got a real fucking answer. [SPEAKER_04]: God damn it, don't. [SPEAKER_04]: the internet, just cutting through the internet. [SPEAKER_06]: It's totally twist everything, man.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I saw the same articles you did. [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I can't, if I can't confirm it, we'll try to find somebody. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, if the White House press secretary is lying about it, then. [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, and then I can do about that as a podcast, so sorry, that one I'll try to trust. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, let's dig in here. [SPEAKER_04]: So, first of all, how many years do you have experience with Firearms? [SPEAKER_06]: I think 13, 12, 13 years.

[SPEAKER_06]: So, I was a CEO of Sun's Liberty Gun Works for 12 years. [SPEAKER_04]: Love Sun's Liberty. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and just up back from doing that and started this new thing. [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, a lot of time.

[SPEAKER_04]: with guns tons tons tons so you know everything at this point you know about that but the brands all that sort of stuff you have every single thing about these guns magazines all the fun stuff right sites optics everything quite a bit yeah yeah so let's dig into it Bob I sent you these videos about half hour ago in order uh... if you want to start with those I try to help you out today but sometimes uh I know sometimes they're all over the place

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, so yeah, let's start with this first one here To the audio listeners forgive the whistling god damn if I had here to this whistle all day long I would shoot everyone on the face. [SPEAKER_04]: I hated so much So this is a new video that just popped up this morning now It appears as if he's out trying to direct traffic or stop traffic based on where ice is and everything else play the video [SPEAKER_04]: God, that makes me want to shoot so many of this one.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's surprising. [SPEAKER_06]: I want to shoot them all. [SPEAKER_06]: There's a point with that. [SPEAKER_04]: God, imagine hearing that all day long and losing my fucking mind. [SPEAKER_04]: Go! [SPEAKER_04]: So is this a woman with him videoing? [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_04]: You must get fucking run over. [SPEAKER_04]: I almost got run over right there.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now ice comes over, grabs this guy, gets him out of the street because he was trying to stop traffic or direct it or... [SPEAKER_06]: So that's something that the first few videos they didn't show this part. [SPEAKER_06]: No, there's a reason they're on top of him like... [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and now we know what that is. [SPEAKER_04]: They were dragging him out of the street from softened cars. [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't just sitting there filming, and they went after him, you know?

[SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Not damn it, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: This adds to the confusion. [SPEAKER_04]: Hearing these whistles, first time I've heard these whistles, too. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I counted 10 shots there. [SPEAKER_06]: And the first one's, that was the buzzbomb. [SPEAKER_06]: That's something they're talking about was like, what was that first shot? [SPEAKER_06]: Cause that first shot is a pause in the clean. [SPEAKER_04]: There is.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it's so quick, and I don't know who it is, where it is. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, one thing I think I think I can confirm is that it didn't come from Alex pretty's gone. [SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I think so. [SPEAKER_06]: Let's listen to it and do something, but they, they clearly disarmed him. [SPEAKER_06]: They, somebody had, had his gun. [SPEAKER_04]: Had his gun, and what's, we'll show that other angle here in a minutes.

[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, continue this video, Bob, because again, this was, this was the new one that popped up this morning. [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm assuming this is from the woman in the red coat or pink coats. [SPEAKER_04]: I won't show the reverse angle of it after this. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god! [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god! [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god! [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god! [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god! [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god! [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god, the fuck did you just do?

[SPEAKER_08]: The fuck did you just do? [SPEAKER_08]: What the hell? [SPEAKER_08]: He has somebody called the ambulance. [SPEAKER_08]: Somebody called the ambulance. [SPEAKER_08]: Somebody needs to call the ambulance. [SPEAKER_08]: Somebody called the ambulance. [SPEAKER_08]: Somebody called the ambulance. [SPEAKER_08]: Somebody called the ambulance. [SPEAKER_08]: I can't believe they just did that holy shit. [SPEAKER_04]: Holy shit. [SPEAKER_04]: I have to think out you're still filming.

[SPEAKER_04]: And now you didn't go over and check on them. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I got you now trying to help. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on. [SPEAKER_08]: You're back. [SPEAKER_04]: Still filming. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she's still filming. [SPEAKER_04]: Still filming. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_08]: You fucking people, man. [SPEAKER_08]: You fucking. [SPEAKER_06]: Definitely shows her priority. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Why would you do that?

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_08]: I can't believe it's easy. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on. [SPEAKER_08]: Come here. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on.

[SPEAKER_04]: very slick so we see an officer even fall down near the body like they were slipping all over the position and grabbing the solid eyes so slipping around all over it fucking awesome yesterday let alone many apples okay so that's the new angle that we have from today obviously it's not close so we can't see what that is however [SPEAKER_04]: This at least tells us how they started. [SPEAKER_04]: Because that I couldn't figure out over the weekend.

[SPEAKER_06]: And that's always, you know, they have the 72 hour rules. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, they don't, they're doing this grabbing people for the fuck of it. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you did something to cause them to interact with you. [SPEAKER_06]: So obviously now, the other guys in traffic, trying to impede traffic, causing problems, you know. [SPEAKER_06]: So they were trying to get them out of the fucking road. [SPEAKER_06]: So at least we know what that was.

[SPEAKER_06]: Because that's the first thing I said. [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, they don't just jump your ass for no reason. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you're doing something. [SPEAKER_06]: You touch somebody or threw something at them or got in the way or something. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you did something to initiate this. [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_04]: The other part that I find fascinating about this video, which Dan went over yesterday, was the coordinates that are being shared amongst all these people about where ice is going, where they're going to be, these separate addresses, and it's unbelievably organized to the points where some higher up had to leak this information. [SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise, typically here's what happens.

[SPEAKER_04]: They've got a list, it's like Santa, the Czechatris, they got the addresses, [SPEAKER_04]: ripped the people out, support them, get them on a bus, and then move on to the next address. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, they're staying ahead of them somehow. [SPEAKER_04]: Right, how are they staying ahead of them? [SPEAKER_04]: And how are they there as this is happening? [SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's what I don't understand.

[SPEAKER_06]: I've never, you know, over the last 15 years in this crap, since the Obama administration I've ever understood how like, [SPEAKER_06]: out of nowhere could be like, oh, we're going to protest today and like fucking 10,000 people show up like, no, these people are fucking jobs. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we won't know if you're on the last specifically, I stay for the work, I guess.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, the other part of this is Dan and I had one of those protests organizers on the show, gets paid to do it. [SPEAKER_04]: for paid protests. [SPEAKER_04]: Now he won't do any of these. [SPEAKER_04]: He said, yeah, which and take that with a grain of salt, obviously, uh, give anybody enough money, though, though, they'll give it. [SPEAKER_06]: So he says he's doing the nonviolent ones, but you're right. [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, and then we'll go back to Renee Goods.

[SPEAKER_04]: She's got Missouri plates for some reason. [SPEAKER_06]: This is, I mean, there's been people out there like this is rising to the level of like, almost like an insurgency. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, they're organized. [SPEAKER_06]: They have signal groups. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they're even shutting the groups down and open them up. [SPEAKER_06]: There's some groups of over 1,000 people in them. [SPEAKER_06]: Corrects.

[SPEAKER_06]: And they've got really high-level people in there feeding them information to make this happen, which is at that point, you know, this isn't a protest. [SPEAKER_06]: This is something else, you know? [SPEAKER_06]: It's crossed the line and it's something else. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but in their funded, so you know, they're obviously well funded to do this and they're getting the coordinates and it They're making homemade grenades. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you see that stuff the other day?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean see the woman who picked up the flashbang. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah [SPEAKER_04]: goes down screaming like she's in saving private Ryan. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah you definitely want to pick one of those up. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she's been exposed to fun. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sure is. [SPEAKER_04]: Look at her. [SPEAKER_04]: She lost some digits in that and got a good chuckle out of that video. [SPEAKER_06]: It was fuck around and find out.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because you do have to remember your white liberal woman in Minneapolis or wherever you're shipped in from Portland somewhere else. [SPEAKER_04]: you know nothing about war or any type of military so don't go pick you know flashbangs like that's just that doesn't make any sense uh... right now we go to the next video bomb [SPEAKER_04]: All right, so this is from the other side of the street, opposite to where that other woman was who was filming him.

[SPEAKER_04]: And he's obviously fighting with him. [SPEAKER_04]: He's obviously fighting them one, two, is he reaching for something that I don't know press pause right here? [SPEAKER_04]: All right, this is before any gun shots. [SPEAKER_04]: There's what, six, seven people in the mix there. [SPEAKER_04]: Bob, I told you pre-show.

[SPEAKER_04]: They felt like watching the touch push from the Eagles, whereas I can't see the ball, aka the gun on this one, and I don't know where this is actually coming from. [SPEAKER_04]: What he was reaching for, what he was trying to reach for, and what he was fighting for. [SPEAKER_06]: And it definitely got a little at a hand.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, there's one video where you can see one of the agents spraying them with like C.S. [SPEAKER_06]: in the face and then like beating them with the fucking it. [SPEAKER_06]: The, you know, this can't, can't spray it. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, I'm pretty sure I've never seen any S.O.P. [SPEAKER_06]: that calls for that. [SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: So, like, I don't know what to think about this.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, press play from here from this moment because this is too difficult to tell what the fuck is going on. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, so go back Bob to let's back it up 10 seconds because there's an agent who's running away with a gun the one in the gray coat the one in the gray coats Right there Is he have the gun on him at that? [SPEAKER_04]: No, he doesn't have it yet. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay And you're ready to hit pause here. [SPEAKER_04]: Is he is he grabs it all right right there?

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay [SPEAKER_04]: That's when the first gunshot kind of goes off, it almost sinks up with that gun. [SPEAKER_06]: Just, I mean, I've had people, it turned, you know, it seems whether people have analyzed a video thought, what if he, he's gonna, you know, grabs it all from and pops around in the street. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's no way to, so here's where I need your help on this one, okay? [SPEAKER_04]: If this is loaded, he doesn't have the safety on.

[SPEAKER_04]: If this officer grabbed this gun, just to get it out of the way, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Could he have just hit the trigger on access? [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: There's no safety on the 320, absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, there is no safety on 320. [SPEAKER_06]: No. [SPEAKER_06]: There's a trigger safety, I believe. [SPEAKER_06]: But if your fingers on the trigger, you can absolutely pull it. [SPEAKER_06]: There's no, you know.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: And let's say it was on accident. [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, you're on the heat of the moment here. [SPEAKER_04]: You've got seven, eight dudes. [SPEAKER_04]: You're grab the gun. [SPEAKER_04]: And I think whether is a factor here. [SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever shot in weather this cold? [SPEAKER_04]: maybe once and hardly ever. [SPEAKER_04]: So he's wearing gloves. [SPEAKER_04]: I can't imagine that's ideal for pulling the trigger on a weapon.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've never shot a gun with a, with a mitten on. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm dead serious, like, or a glove. [SPEAKER_06]: So you got to remember there were in Puffy Coats. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, there's a lot of stuff hanging off of them. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, there's a lot of crazy things can happen. [SPEAKER_04]: And here's why I bring this up. [SPEAKER_04]: Is it possible that's, [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm going to give you one or two scenarios here.

[SPEAKER_04]: One, you accidentally hit the trigger, just in the panic of it and run it away, just because you're trying to get rid of the gun and get it out of the scene and went off. [SPEAKER_04]: The conspiracy theory that's going around on the Internet is that this particular brand of gun from SIG has been known to do this and have that accidental discharges in the past. [SPEAKER_04]: The Internet covered the story about six or seven months ago on the show.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's definitely possible. [SPEAKER_06]: It'd be like the worst luck for that guy ever. [SPEAKER_06]: That's like the one that just happened to happen then, but it's possible. [SPEAKER_06]: That pistol has been known. [SPEAKER_06]: There's a reason why it's banned from every [SPEAKER_06]: training class known to man at this point. [SPEAKER_04]: It is. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and the reason is because of the accidental discharge.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's easy to go off and you'd rather not use it for safety reasons. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know about easy. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think there's been verified cases. [SPEAKER_06]: There's been a handful and there's been several that have been attributed to it and later proved not to be it. [SPEAKER_06]: Like the one with the guy in the army guy was like, oh, I threw my gun down on the table and shot a guy and ended up being he just murdered him.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, so there's [SPEAKER_06]: There's been some bullshit and some bad press there, but has there legitimately been cases of the gun going off and it sounds supposed to be us? [SPEAKER_05]: There's also, you can find videos on YouTube, literally testing this and just by dropping the firearm, you can get it to go off and just other various things like that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, now Bob, I just saying you another video on Twitter here, this is that exact agent who was isolated in slow motion and [SPEAKER_04]: Again, take these with a grain of salt with AI and all this other shit. [SPEAKER_04]: And this is kind of gone viral and everybody's questioning, when the, when the agent grabbed the gun was this, the actual footage here of this in slow motion of this gun going off. [SPEAKER_04]: Play this video.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if there's volume to it, Bob. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, go, can you scroll back to that gone where he's holding it? [SPEAKER_04]: Can you give us your opinion there? [SPEAKER_06]: Man, that's hard to tell. [SPEAKER_05]: Hard, right? [SPEAKER_05]: It looks like a closed fist. [SPEAKER_04]: Which we need to go. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe something's resting on the trigger, but go back. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, go back here.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because this is, this is going to be a difficult case to solve, guys. [SPEAKER_04]: If this is what we got. [SPEAKER_06]: He doesn't look like his fingers in the trigger well. [SPEAKER_04]: He does it. [SPEAKER_04]: So, but, but, but, from the first video that we just showed, it sounds like that is the gun that went off first, like, it doesn't sound, it sounds like it came away from that crowd versus in the crowd of bodies on top of the guy.

[SPEAKER_04]: that's going to come in to play as well. [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's just a court or whatever. [SPEAKER_06]: There's definitely a gap there. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like a rate of that going off or one of the agents popped around off. [SPEAKER_06]: Something happened that caused everybody else to react is what it seems like. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because I don't know that you would fire 10 shots or nine. [SPEAKER_04]: This is the first one.

[SPEAKER_06]: Let's say it was that well that that's going to go in and then a little bit of a gap. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, play the next video, Bob. [SPEAKER_04]: because it's in that clip there and fun flirty thing. [SPEAKER_04]: See if there's any volume on this one, is another angle of it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now in this angle, you'll actually see, you'll be able to see the guy walk away here from Alex, pretty good and press play. [SPEAKER_04]: I now press pause as he's walking away here. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, right there, press pause. [SPEAKER_06]: The gun kinda does this at one point. [SPEAKER_04]: It does, but also if you had fired a gun on your own and you know, I have obviously you have, [SPEAKER_04]: you would know I think at this point if it came from you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so that leads me to believe, maybe it wasn't. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, I'm truly fucking torn on this one. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know what, I think you would have stopped and not just kept walking, like, turn around, like, right, lower, and that was me. [SPEAKER_04]: But everybody's first reaction normally. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't care how experienced you are as if you accidentally set off a gun, your first reaction is fuck.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's, I don't care who you are and how experienced you are. [SPEAKER_04]: If you're running away from a situation and you set the gun, you fucking pull the trigger, you be like, ah, fuck man, you're first on your heart rate goes up, you freak out, you're right, shit, you know, right, and this guy doesn't do that. [SPEAKER_04]: So that kind of believes me to believe that maybe he didn't. [SPEAKER_06]: Even though the whistling, if you didn't hear it, he would have felt it.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I mean he has good grip on it and he would have felt it. [SPEAKER_06]: They probably would have felt it even more actually because you didn't have a good grip on it. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's a great, and that's why I want to stop you right here.

[SPEAKER_04]: So let's see if there is any kickback here because if you're not holding a gun properly and the way you should, a firearm properly and you've got to use a little... You're going to get some wrist whip on it, you know, you're going to feel that on it. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's going to be at least six to twelve inches, especially if you're not six. [SPEAKER_04]: So press play here.

[SPEAKER_04]: So he doesn't move at all now now he looks back to check on the situation, but he doesn't move at all, and that's when we first heard it. [SPEAKER_05]: You can see the firearm in that clip to the window. [SPEAKER_05]: There's no movement. [SPEAKER_05]: Like you don't see any smoke coming out, you don't see any movement that gun just went off. [SPEAKER_04]: None. [SPEAKER_04]: Now play this one more time because that's what's interesting.

[SPEAKER_04]: The very very top of this bob go all the way to the top. [SPEAKER_04]: I see a puff of smoke coming from another angle. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, you see it kind of go across the camera. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Was that a shot? [SPEAKER_06]: Could be someone's breath at so damn cold out there. [SPEAKER_04]: But that's what I thought initially, but then I don't, I can't see where breath would be coming from. [SPEAKER_04]: See that right there? [SPEAKER_05]: What is that?

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, what is that plume of... [SPEAKER_05]: I think that might be the breath from the person right in front of the camera just from where we see that silhouette Come in this room. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so you're saying there's somebody might. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, this smoke comes in and then you'd see the person kind of follow up behind Interesting, okay. [SPEAKER_05]: That does look like it's in the foreground.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right [SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to look at the agent's hands too, seen if any of them had their gun drawn at this point. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean to like, that guy at there's going for now, they are. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, now they are, right? [SPEAKER_04]: But what, there was one shot from somewhere that caused it. [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't see anybody else pulling a gun or firing yet.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like the guy right here in the, like in the brown pants is coming first gun. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the guy in the back of the green has just out already. [SPEAKER_04]: This other guy's looking to fight, he's rolling up his sleeves, so he doesn't have a gun. [SPEAKER_04]: And then this girl in the pink, how is she so calm throughout this video is she shooting this? [SPEAKER_04]: Like, she's fucking James Cameron's director of photography. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I just don't get it.

[SPEAKER_06]: Propaganda at all costs, man. [SPEAKER_06]: She's there to push the, you know, put this away. [SPEAKER_04]: But that you're in the line of fucking fire. [SPEAKER_04]: There's 10 shots going off. [SPEAKER_04]: And your only reaction is I got to still hold the camera and figure this out. [SPEAKER_06]: So you have man higher. [SPEAKER_06]: She's a good cameraman. [SPEAKER_06]: She's got some. [SPEAKER_06]: Got some balls. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, it almost seems like a professional.

[SPEAKER_04]: You think? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, almost seems like a professional. [SPEAKER_04]: Who's holding these fucking cameras? [SPEAKER_04]: Because like, dude, Well, scared chillists. [SPEAKER_06]: What came up today, too? [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, shots. [SPEAKER_06]: This guy's been out. [SPEAKER_06]: This is a second time. [SPEAKER_06]: He's gotten in a fight with that. [SPEAKER_06]: With with them. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_04]: With ice.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they said he or boarded patrol over the stairs. [SPEAKER_06]: They said he, uh, is that true, Bob? [SPEAKER_06]: Can you confirm that? [SPEAKER_04]: That second time. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I will, is this the second time that he's been, you know, in a fight with, oh, that is true. [SPEAKER_06]: We broke his rib the first time like you got in a fight with him. [SPEAKER_06]: So this hell, maybe she was there for the first one.

[SPEAKER_06]: Just thought he was going to get his ass beaten with a surprise when he got shot. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: So it turns out he broke a rib assaulting ice a week before and he was fired for indecent behavior as a nurse assaulting patients. [SPEAKER_04]: That is according to [SPEAKER_04]: Buzzfeed or Buzz reports. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know about that. [SPEAKER_04]: It'd be like a firm that one. [SPEAKER_04]: I, you know, you read this shit in here.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now I'm SmbC, just announced that they did. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, warm up the photo. [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we all knew that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, actually, I'm sorry, CNN is reporting this as well now. [SPEAKER_04]: So CNN as of an hour ago is reporting the Nalax pretty broke a rib and a confrontation with federal agents one week before we shot and killed by border patrol and details are out from the unnamed source.

[SPEAKER_04]: And this is according to CNN. [SPEAKER_04]: The earlier incident started when he stopped his car after observing ice agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, and then began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source, who asked not to be names out of fear of retribution. [SPEAKER_04]: Pretty later told the source that five agents tackled him, and one leaned on his back, and the encounter left him with a broken rib.

[SPEAKER_04]: The agents quickly released him at the scene. [SPEAKER_04]: That day, he thought he was going to die, and this is according to the source for CNN,

[SPEAKER_04]: and pretty was later given medication consistent with treating a broken rib uh... according to records reviewed by cnn which is probably uh... i can okay and if i'd broken a rib i wouldn't be out there fighting with him again that's where damn sure you're broken her shit hurt oh my god dude you can't breathe i mean you can't say it's a joyfully such yeah for real you can't breathe yeah it sucks did i would i would definitely out there like oh let's go out next week and get another fight no it's a fucking painful

[SPEAKER_04]: painful injury, and yeah, you're usually getting injections, too. [SPEAKER_04]: So normally you take him fucking biking in. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a bunch of people are like that. [SPEAKER_04]: You're also getting injection, you're giving injection to call me down, because that's a bad one there. [SPEAKER_06]: That was like this guy needed injection to calm down, because he was. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm even looking at shots here. [SPEAKER_04]: He's also got his phone out, and just jamming it in the face eyes. [SPEAKER_04]: So he's just like, I call, you know, chatting about something. [SPEAKER_06]: I think that these guys is like, you know, I'm surprised the one, the shooting the other week was three weeks ago now, the good shooting, I'm surprised that was the first one.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, these people are out there and they're face every day, bull and whistles and yelling and throwing shit out of mine. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, and if you're out there doing this over and over and over again,

[SPEAKER_04]: like it's more than a hobby at this point yeah it almost feels like some of these people want to be martyrs right i want to show that you say it's like you look at Renee good she smiled she smiled at the gas what a great mom either know that we found that out later and it was like all right cool you got no money fell in the council also to share money you got no life you got no nothing yeah let me go make myself famous yes forever like there was fucking actors at the goddamn golden glows we were in pens be

[SPEAKER_06]: be good and it's like hey congratulations you did what you wanted to accomplish I guess and same people can't really tell you know that's where I was uh read you know reading a book about uh Queen Victoria there's a back in 1800s but she almost got shot and then she had like five copycats try to shoot it within the next like five or six years and that's the same thing that happens here I mean these people they see like oh that guy got famous by you know doing next yz let me go out there and do it and try to try my chance it you know sure

[SPEAKER_04]: starting to go fund me and making one point five you know making millions of dollars oh all of them are uh the lesbian wife she made half a million dollars um i thought it's more than that it was a lot the hey this was like the day after so who knows if that kept going or what the fucking story is uh so Bob I just sent you CNN is actually talking about this right now uh it wasn't in just the statements they are covering this here um as far

[SPEAKER_06]: Surprise, they're not covering it up. [SPEAKER_02]: And it is learning that Alex Pretty had a physical encounter with federal agents about a week before he was shot and killed by law enforcement. [SPEAKER_02]: Sources tell CNN that Pretty broke a rib when a group of federal officers tackled him while he was protesting. [SPEAKER_02]: Percilla Alvarez is breaking that story for us. [SPEAKER_02]: What else are you hearing, Percilla?

[SPEAKER_01]: Dan, I will learn more details along with my colleague Jeff Winter about what exactly transpired a week before Alex Predi was shot in Minneapolis and died this past weekend. [SPEAKER_01]: Now in this earlier incident, he stopped his car after observing ice agents chasing what he described as a family on foot and began shouting and blowing his whistle. [SPEAKER_01]: to leave him with a broken rib.

[SPEAKER_01]: According to this source, and I'm quoting here, that source said, quote, that day he thought he was going to die.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Freddie was later given medication that is consistent with treating a broken rib, according to records reviewed by CNN sources also say that he was known to federal law enforcement, though it's unclear whether it was this incident or another with federal agents that they were, they knew [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the way the officer who tackled him on Saturday, new who he was.

[SPEAKER_01]: We do know, however, is that federal immigration officers have been collecting personal information of protesters and agitators within the context of the Department of Homeland Security has warned his repeated threats. [SPEAKER_01]: towards officers as they are conducting immigration enforcement operations. [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, just Tuesday, the Department also publicized an online tip form to share information about people allegedly harassing ICE officers.

[SPEAKER_01]: We've also heard Tom Homan, the White House borders are say that a database would be created for those who are arrested for impeding law enforcement. [SPEAKER_01]: But thus far in our queries to the Department of Homeland Security, they have said that no such database exists. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't want to take the government to do any IT work, you know, they'll probably be next year before they get better, they'll think of it.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, you know, it was probably behind all this. [SPEAKER_06]: The whistle manufacturing lobby. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, yeah, because I mean, there are whistle sales or through the fucking roof. [SPEAKER_04]: I know, man, millions of shit. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, go to the next video from that MJ truth guy there on Twitter that I sent you, Bob.

[SPEAKER_04]: uh... so this this uh... video is circulating with people saying uh... a nice agent disarmed suspect seconds one second prior to the shot not a hundred percent sure but it doesn't look like a weapon uh... it's easy to criticize ice from the comfort of your own couch well watching this back and i this is why i want to do this today is this is a second and a half decision yeah um... that these people have to make of whether or not they're going to get killed

[SPEAKER_04]: Are they got to kill some other person? [SPEAKER_06]: And that's something they're going to look at too is, you know, they're not, when they're looking at whether it's justified or not, they're not looking at what you or I or the video saw, they're looking to look at what the agents on the ground saw, what their perception of what was going on, did they feel threatened?

[SPEAKER_06]: But on the other side of that too is, you know, like, Hamlin's razor, you got to look at it like, you know, don't attribute to malice, it can be attributed to stupidity, like, what does guy out there to shoot him or was he to some more on, you know? [SPEAKER_04]: and, you know, according to CNN, his background of how many of these fucking things like, if he was known in federal agents, like they said, he was done this whole lot. [SPEAKER_04]: A lot.

[SPEAKER_04]: And this is one of those professional dudes that gets hired to do this fucking shit. [SPEAKER_06]: We've already determined he lost his jobs, so it's not like getting anything better to do soon. [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I don't get it, but, you know, the hospital did something on ABC News last night where they, they wield, I'm not kidding, they wield the body in.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then they said like the nurses and the things apparently is a place he allegedly used to work out and they were saying goodbye to him like, I, you know, that's very bizarre. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know all that stage. [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, that's so weird. [SPEAKER_04]: How did the Bonnie go to that exact house? [SPEAKER_06]: I've never seen anything like that. [SPEAKER_06]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_04]: It was on ABC News last night.

[SPEAKER_04]: I watched it with David Mirra and he goes, colleagues, paid tribute to their fallen comrades and you're like, okay, so show this video in this next one. [SPEAKER_04]: Bye, bye from the N.J. truth guy. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I think this is the same video. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay, forgive me, show the gun in that. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, these things are now broken up into three. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm sorry, scan forward in this particular video.

[SPEAKER_04]: He actually isolates the hands and the movements. [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I sent you this. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see, this is the correct one. [SPEAKER_04]: There's three videos attached to that link that I sent you. [SPEAKER_07]: So I've got Tim wall speaking unless it's this rumble thing. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's not. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, um, I'll resend it. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, let me go back in. [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll just resend it to you.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, I got it. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, this is the video. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Press play on this. [SPEAKER_04]: So this, this circles every single detail about this particular incidents. [SPEAKER_04]: And then I think is the agent correct in the great coats and to hands. [SPEAKER_04]: All right kids, we got some sponsors to put this shit wagon on the air first and foremost.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, it's because they're so delicious that everybody's eating them at the office and it's [SPEAKER_04]: okay so they're circling there saying what do you think good the gun of gun off it could have I mean it doesn't seem like a dead and you know when you're sinking up the audio it definitely doesn't seem like a dead I would have heard a shot in that one right and that was in slow-mo and extreme and whoever did this video whoever this M.J.

[SPEAKER_04]: Truth dude is um, that's one of those detail. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean him circling the hand on him. [SPEAKER_04]: Yep, and I like this because I don't any any left of volume on I don't hear a shot. [SPEAKER_04]: No, so I don't hear it from that guy and also from this this one I still don't see him look back because if you shoot you would look back and be like a fuck yeah, right at least hit somebody back there [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you would have reacted.

[SPEAKER_06]: You would have done something, not just kept running off. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: And a sunset. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, in this same group that I sent you, Bob, show him the gun. [SPEAKER_04]: If you could tell everybody what this particular gun is. [SPEAKER_04]: And if there's anything extra added to it. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: It looks, I mean, obviously, you had an optic is an optic cut gun, you know, it's.

[SPEAKER_04]: What does that mean for the explain that to the audience? [SPEAKER_06]: So it's got a red dot on it. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, the guy knew he was doing it. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's not something you're, you know, it's not a gun they're hanging out at the protest, you know, I mean, it's something you would make it your place, customary. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, something else, yeah, it's a nice gun. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he got, there's a Magwell on it.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I think that's the factory trigger, yeah, he's got, [SPEAKER_06]: that that these looks like you might have aftermarket grips probably an aftermarket barrel I mean it's it's a nice gun I mean it's got to play care to gun most days yeah how much with that cost you shit that mean 1500 bucks at least at a minimum right a minimum I was guessing someone the 1800 range yeah yeah yeah so why does somebody get all the upgrades like this if they're a first time gun owner

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think he is. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't either. [SPEAKER_06]: And that's part of, you know, if you carry a gun concealed, you should be less of a you know, you should be less, you're not out there carrying a gun to be a hero to be violent or doing these things. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I agree. [SPEAKER_06]: You should be more responsible if you're carrying a gun.

[SPEAKER_06]: He should be standing at the back of the road, you know, blown his whistle, not up, you know, fucking with eyes. [SPEAKER_06]: You should let this gun at home, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: If you know you're going to fight and you're already at your ribs broken, like why would you even bring it with you knowing it was just a reason for them to you know, perceive you as a threat?

[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm not saying everybody, you know, I am 100% everybody should, everybody should carry it go. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've, like, mine's on my backpack. [SPEAKER_04]: It's on my backpack every single day. [SPEAKER_04]: But my backpack is right here. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Something happens. [SPEAKER_04]: Greats. [SPEAKER_04]: I have it. [SPEAKER_04]: The only bitch of it is I've almost taken it through airports or I'm like, god damn it dude.

[SPEAKER_04]: You always have that kind of a car like three times or I'm like shit. [SPEAKER_06]: I do bullet to size the bullet thing. [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's the same thing. [SPEAKER_06]: I always fuck with them two and I'm like oh man, y'all should win it award. [SPEAKER_06]: I've won eight flights where you have that bullet in my bag and y'all found it good job. [SPEAKER_03]: No way. [SPEAKER_06]: Which one is things made of I know I'm going to some place where the gun could be a problem.

[SPEAKER_06]: I leave it my fucking truck. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_04]: Because Dan, all these shifts we go on, even like, let's take Tampa on Friday night for that live show, it's food mark. [SPEAKER_04]: He carries to wherever we go. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So at least one of us has a fucking gun in its face, between him and I, I'm not taking the fucking shot. [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's Dan. [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, it's an extra two minutes, it's security, it's super fucking easy, and you can pretty much travel with it any more. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I travel with them all the time. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I took one shot, brought it back. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's [SPEAKER_06]: I, nine times out of ten I travel with unless I'm going to a state where I don't have that, I don't, you know, I'm going to New York or something. [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_06]: The last place you would have a conversation about a, you know, whether you're guns legal or not. [SPEAKER_04]: We are in California on the side of the side of the fucking road in New York. [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to jail. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to go jail. [SPEAKER_06]: You're going to have that. [SPEAKER_06]: You're going to work it out later. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: That's right. [SPEAKER_04]: Two years. [SPEAKER_04]: You're looking at two years there. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: So there's certain places. [SPEAKER_06]: Even when I was carrying up a film, I worked for Central Liberty. [SPEAKER_06]: legally able to transport machine guns and SBRs and all sorts of stuff, but we'd ship our guns. [SPEAKER_06]: If we had to go do a demo to an agency in California, New York, Washington, we would ship the guns ahead of ourselves.

[SPEAKER_06]: To the department, use the guns, put them back, ship them back, and we would not drive down the side of the road to the machine gun in Washington State. [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's just not a good fucking idea. [SPEAKER_04]: So last question regarding this gun, and if you can pop up that picture one more time.

[SPEAKER_04]: Is this somebody military or is this somebody who just is such a fan and just like man I've got to have a custom tricked out gun yeah, I mean the question is like did he trick it out or did he buy it that way on gun broker like that's what I don't I can't figure out it because if you if you tricked it out [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of shit that I don't know what to buy to add to make it look cool.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'll trust its son's liberty, or I'll trust a customization station, or whatever it is. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm in just say, hey dude, can you make this look as fucking rad as possible? [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever the, and just let me know what the dollar amount is, and then I'll buy it.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I mean, I wish I could tell that trigger, it looks, I don't, I'm not sure exactly what the trigger on that stock trigger and the 320 looks like, but it doesn't look like it has a trigger, like a trigger bar, like a safety on it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's very possible. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't see a safe, but then again, it could be on the other side.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think some of the 320 models do have them, but I'd standard the most common ones do not, like the military model does, like they require a, of course, a physical safety on it, but most of your civilian ones don't. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, all my single action, the only pistols do not have safety's.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, they've got they've got to save you on the trigger to prevent you from clip in the edge of the trigger and send it off, but doesn't look like that model has that. [SPEAKER_06]: So could he have clip the edge of the trigger, there's Glover something sure, but video shirts doesn't look like he does.

[SPEAKER_06]: That shot came from somewhere else, you know, and I hate to think they smoked this guy because one of the agents had an NDE, but [SPEAKER_06]: I can't see anything like that in the video, there's no, you know, I don't see anything got to pop in a round off. [SPEAKER_06]: What's an ND negligent discharge. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, is it possible one of the agents drew his gun and he popped around off into the street and it said everybody else off.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but I mean, that's just we're speculating at this point. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can't see all at that in the video. [SPEAKER_04]: We are.

[SPEAKER_04]: But that's that's why I wanted to have this breakdown show today because there is so much speculation out there And I want we want to know the real story I don't I don't want to just throw something out and be like everybody's quick to blame the 320 like oh It has a lot of india has a lot of I don't want to do that either because if it doesn't look like it goes off and it's the same yeah It doesn't look like a gun in his hand goes off like it would it would move you would react you know I mean something Right by what are we gonna say?

[SPEAKER_05]: I was just going to say like the culture and firearms a lot of the guys I know who did chip over and actually were in infantry and stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: They don't like to have expensive Gucci gear. [SPEAKER_05]: They like to have reliable stuff that works. [SPEAKER_05]: And so yeah, usually you'll see an optic and stuff, but it's just different types of things they're looking for.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't, this doesn't like scream to me that he was, you know, previously in or something like that. [SPEAKER_05]: No, this is a silver magnible. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's not something I've ever seen on stands out. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Now Bob, go to the next video from Meme Basterd, which is hilarious. [SPEAKER_06]: Meme Basterd, that's all from Basterd.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now he's claiming it was the sig going off that spook the iceman and he's got his own video here. [SPEAKER_04]: Can you break this one down and let me know if this is a better angle of it. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not gonna come up a little bit. [SPEAKER_04]: That angle, it looks like his hand comes up a little bit. [SPEAKER_06]: So, man, I don't have to see a way slower. [SPEAKER_04]: It got, I mean, that's pretty fucking slow. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see.

[SPEAKER_04]: Show him more time. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm looking at the optics, see if the optic moves from the gun cycles. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, show the audience. [SPEAKER_04]: OK. Ooh, it blends in with the jeans. [SPEAKER_04]: It's tough to say. [SPEAKER_04]: It might, you know.

[SPEAKER_04]: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [SPEAKER_06]: I, and the other thing too, I've been kind of looking at these videos.

[SPEAKER_06]: I almost can think I can see a little bit of the barrel because when the gun cycle, the barrel comes out, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: And there's a couple of them, look like I could see the barrel. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, show it one more time. [SPEAKER_06]: You can troll, man, if that gun did go off, you can troll the recoil really well. [SPEAKER_06]: Because it, I mean, he went straight back. [SPEAKER_06]: He didn't sure. [SPEAKER_04]: Flip or nothing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, man, it moves. [SPEAKER_04]: It definitely moves. [SPEAKER_04]: That, that's 6 to 12 inches we were looking for is in this video for sure. [SPEAKER_06]: It does look like the opting moves a little bit. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And so this is why this is so difficult, because, ah, God, if this is a real video, whoever mean bastard is, and that's, this might be your cleanest angle of, and that is good cycle really fast.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's hard to tell, especially with this jeans in front of it, but it does look, I mean, that looks like it might have accidentally gone off. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, whether it was him or somebody else, actually slow that down, is finger on the trigger that they are right there. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can see the go back and see some grip above as I know. [SPEAKER_05]: The grip above as I know. [SPEAKER_05]: So fresh. [SPEAKER_05]: Just not enough pixels.

[SPEAKER_04]: But this, by the way, is what the court or the jury or whoever is going to be looking at to decide what to do in this case.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, unfortunately, [SPEAKER_04]: What could go down is, hey, these guys who were on top of Alex pretty hurt a shot hurt a shot thought it was him He was grabbing for something else because he was it looked like he was reaching for something And there's so many guys on top of trying to fight him or something that it's just like you hear a gun shot and then you're like, well fuck it Somebody shoot that mean and that guy had a holster [SPEAKER_04]: Is this him?

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to take the risk and then then the last question I'll have for you here regarding this is the amount of shots that go off is that excessive and it's a situation like that. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think so, especially that first grouping, you know, you're about four or five shots. [SPEAKER_06]: My question, like, what were the second, second volley of fire coming from, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_06]: Like, they fired, they fired a volley of fire, pretty close that would have put them down. [SPEAKER_06]: So, who shot, there's the same guy shooting again, or did the rest of the guys just react late? [SPEAKER_06]: Like, because you hear like bang, and then bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and there's a little bit of... Let's play that video, then one more time in real time now. [SPEAKER_04]: We've seen all the different angles.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen let's go back to the very first one. [SPEAKER_06]: I've seen all three of the shooting with seven guys shooting and they shoot a dude like 47 times. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's, if it, you know, if it's 10 shots from one guy or is it one shot from 10 guys, you know, there's no way to tell from the video, but I don't think it's excessive. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's, it's just protecting your life and saying, hey, dude, I don't want to risk this.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: So play this one one more time, Bob. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: And then we'll listen for the first gun shot and then the rest. [SPEAKER_04]: Got these whistles though, too, on top of it, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, could you hear a gun shop through that, many whistles and all the shit going on, like, you know, and we're easy distracted. [SPEAKER_04]: It's distracting now, we're in a goddamn podcast.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Imagine being there and people yelling at you. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [UNKNOWN]: Fuck, it's wrong with you. [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God. [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God. [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God. [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God. [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God. [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_06]: So you think you just getting up, man, if they push you to the ground to stay on the fucking ground. [SPEAKER_04]: I, none of them do that. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the fucking problem.

[SPEAKER_08]: People, the fuck is wrong with you. [SPEAKER_08]: All this weird. [SPEAKER_04]: Ah, that's so loud. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's piercing. [SPEAKER_04]: Is that? [SPEAKER_06]: Let's give me a headache on this one. [SPEAKER_06]: It's pretty constant. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a guy's bat. [SPEAKER_06]: You can tell they all back up and yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: In a line, it's in fire. [SPEAKER_06]: So, probably didn't need the last few, but, you know, it's, I depends.

[SPEAKER_06]: I can't see what they're seeing. [SPEAKER_06]: So maybe you got up and try to move again, like who knows? [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think that's excessive though. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it was about 10 shots. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not seeing way more. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: So, and I'll ask you some questions from the audience here because this is live right now.

[SPEAKER_04]: On Patreon, Dr. Gaboros Pacas, Patreon, Jeep and Justin saying there should be a nice bullet hole in the asphalt. [SPEAKER_04]: I thought about that as well. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Did anybody go out there and look? [SPEAKER_04]: Anyone looked? [SPEAKER_04]: One, two. [SPEAKER_04]: That. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you've seen a gun shoot into the streets. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you definitely don't tell.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: There's going to be a hole. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to be a tell for sure. [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that's smart. [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's something they'll examine. [SPEAKER_04]: This was roped off afterwards as a crime scene. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm sure have endless pictures and all that other shits.

[SPEAKER_04]: Room Raider's saying the guy was pretty stiff arms, whereas the white holy field, says looks like smoke was coming out of that barrel. [SPEAKER_06]: It's right, his arm was out. [SPEAKER_06]: So it's very possible he would control that recoil what better than we thought he would. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: It just came straight back and that was it. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's Davey Jake is saying, sig 320, is that the gun that was used?

[SPEAKER_04]: That was in that car seats? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I look like a 320. [SPEAKER_04]: OK. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm looking at the rest of the comments here, you know, it's relatively torn, and I am too. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, same here. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, and, you know, look, you could slow down anything and think you see what you saw. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I mean, I'll go back to that catch in that game for the bills game. [SPEAKER_04]: That was a catch.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen it a million times. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, imagine being an NFL referee, this is like that on the crack, you know, it's ten times worse. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, trying to... [SPEAKER_04]: and people are fucking blowing whistles in your goddamn. [SPEAKER_06]: You got to make a decision right there. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, is this guy going to fucking shoot me? [SPEAKER_06]: Should I shoot you know, like, rights? [SPEAKER_06]: That's what they're going to look at.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like, what are those? [SPEAKER_06]: What were they perceiving? [SPEAKER_06]: They heard a shot and they fired back. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, no matter where the shot... [SPEAKER_06]: Even if the shot wasn't in the behind them, they still hurt it and reacted so are they going to get in trouble. [SPEAKER_06]: I would think probably not. [SPEAKER_06]: But. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: This made up in so manyapolis is very very well made up going a grand jury.

[SPEAKER_06]: I haven't heard anything. [SPEAKER_04]: I have an either. [SPEAKER_04]: One of them saying that there's no way that thing is too grand. [SPEAKER_04]: No idea. [SPEAKER_04]: A great woman saying it's a dog optic on there. [SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't see the brand on the optic, so yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I didn't look too good. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it wasn't like a, it's like a hollow sound or something kind of that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so maybe that's here.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Got you $1300 gun, yeah, but still I mean, it's it's not a high point What's a high point like a cheap, you know like a gangbanger cheap drop gun, you know I don't know what they cost now. [SPEAKER_05]: They say what you will you can't kill those things.

[SPEAKER_04]: No you can't do I've heard guys turn them into full autos like they're they're tough Yeah, he's a ton you know it's like a brick, but I'm like and somebody said I should have a a pink gun We had one actually for for range 15 It was a it was a company that made us [SPEAKER_04]: Some bright pink guns. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, do we've circled guns pink and blue and teal and all sorts of crazy shit?

[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, I don't I don't cast judgment on people's gun, you know, they're they're guns style, you know Oh, Greg Lomontan had a misspelling here. [SPEAKER_04]: Not dog. [SPEAKER_04]: SIG Optic SIG Optic is when he's saying they're a couple on her bucks. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, great. [SPEAKER_04]: Greg you wrote dog Optic on the chat So I'm gonna read it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like run burgundy [SPEAKER_04]: literally read the words that you put in front of my face and that's what she said. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see, Homer can too is also saying he could have also reached for the agent's duty belt. [SPEAKER_04]: It's very possible. [SPEAKER_04]: That is possible as well. [SPEAKER_06]: We can't see it in the video.

[SPEAKER_04]: Kurt Cobain's shotgun, which is the greatest username in the history of YouTube, saying it's a China optic. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so Chinese optics, they're known for being cheaper, but also they're not as reliable. [SPEAKER_05]: They can break easier the glass and holding the zero can move around. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's, you get what you pay for.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there's always the argument too that we're buying objects from China and funding their, you know, their next war against us. [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, there's, there's that side of it too. [SPEAKER_04]: I know, I don't, you know, that's that's something I can entertain.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's the thing is like, you know, they're just like, whatever, but, you know, you're you're sending money to China, you know, to a weapons manufacturing company or it's optics manufacturing in China, what do you think they're doing with their, you know, their, their research and research and development, you know, the developing stuff with the Chinese military. [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, not something I want to be funding.

[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody else is saying he could have had Mace, a woman reader is saying he could have had Mace in his eyes. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, look, during all these. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he definitely did. [SPEAKER_06]: They may, they, yeah, they, they, they, they, they, they host him down pretty good with it at the beginning. [SPEAKER_06]: You can see him. [SPEAKER_06]: They, they spray him.

[SPEAKER_04]: So was he potentially reaching for something in his pockets if I can wipe the wipe his eyes with like, there's a ton of really in questions on this. [SPEAKER_04]: And once again, today we want to take the opportunity to try to get it right and break it down with you. [SPEAKER_04]: Beyond us with you, after an hour looking at this footage, [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_06]: I knew there's a lot of, I mean, you can't see what was going on in that melee that little huddle therein. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, he could have been reaching for something, he could have been reaching for an officer's gun, he could have been reaching for the can of C.S., you know, he could have been reaching for a lot of things. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah, I, for me personally, like, I always lean on the side of police.

[SPEAKER_04]: If you're in a split second job like this, we've got to make a decision. [SPEAKER_04]: Who's better be safe than sorry for your own life versus somebody that's coming at you? [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going home, I'm going home, my family. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: If it's between me and the guy trying to attack me, get me all the time, you know, I'll deal with that later.

[SPEAKER_06]: The one thing I don't like about this is there's some people in the Trump administration and saying like, oh, well, he deserves it because he's carrying a gun in the protest, like, you know, it's for second amendment, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: You're more than, there's no law in, [SPEAKER_04]: In Minnesota that prevents you from carrying a gun at a protest correct and Dan and I said this yesterday That's the left finally learned with the second amendment was yesterday, which is nice to see Is there was a you can legally carry everything else funny. [SPEAKER_06]: I'll fast to get on our side, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: When you're like oh shit, we should carry two this makes sense, and this is but unfortunately when you do carry You have to be a responsible gun owner [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: What would you have done in this situation? [SPEAKER_04]: And let's just say you were an innocent bystander, not, not trying to fucking stop traffic and go against ICE and all this other ship, but let's say ICE had grabbed you. [SPEAKER_04]: Is the first statement you make?

[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I've got a gun on me. [SPEAKER_06]: You had definitely tell them. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I wouldn't have fought back. [SPEAKER_06]: So I would have been able to let them do the thing put me on the ground and then be like, [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know about the laws I'm in the soda, but a lot of states you're required to inform them, you know, especially if it can still handgun license, you're, you know, it's, you know, it's not going to traffic stop.

[SPEAKER_06]: You have to notify them. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, that's got a little blurrier nowadays because of constitutional carry, which is legal and I think, like, almost 30 states. [SPEAKER_06]: So there's less rules, you don't have a license anymore to carry guns, but still, I mean, I wouldn't have fought back, you know, I mean, I've been arrested before I had to say it, but I mean, when did you start fighting back? [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what was it for?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, now I got to know. [SPEAKER_06]: But we can talk to the case. [SPEAKER_04]: I knew it. [SPEAKER_04]: I knew it. [SPEAKER_04]: I knew it. [SPEAKER_04]: I knew it. [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to ask, I fucking knew it. [SPEAKER_06]: And you were going to talk about this earlier, like, don't... [SPEAKER_06]: Touched police don't fuck with them. [SPEAKER_06]: The same thing I did. [SPEAKER_06]: I was I was walking out of a bar drunk and I'd saw some of my buddies at her cops.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, hey, man, like pattern one of them in the back. [SPEAKER_06]: And they're like, yeah, don't touch us. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, if I went. [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, and I've said this on the show many times. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, being a bouncer in college for four years. [SPEAKER_04]: She got real out of handy. [SPEAKER_04]: You threw them over the police. [SPEAKER_04]: When those people took you somewhere in the police,

[SPEAKER_06]: take him back in a warehouse and they would kick the shit out of them and I never said a god damn word like that they were justified yeah I believe it I believe in street justice I really do and I'm really a man I hate to say I'm not that these I you know these eye stations bored of which one guys want to be shooting people but they're I mean there's out there doing their job and you have people blowing whistles and throwing shit at you and fucking with you and yelling at you and like it's kind of wear on you after a while and these coordinates man like they're I like home in his there

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not trying to figure out where these coordinates are. [SPEAKER_06]: They're showing a lot of restraint. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they're throwing fucking grenades, you know, smoke grenades, and gas grenades, whatever homemade bullshit they have at them, they're showing a lot of restraint, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: Like, it could be much worse.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I'm looking at it here, and it's like to the level of complexity, somebody's leaking this and then sending these out on. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, these chats in the level of complexity, but it's just so much. [SPEAKER_06]: They even said today, I don't know if it's like said, I saw it on the way up here.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it's true, but now that even Governor Waltz is telling his police to basically, I don't want to say no holds barred, but you know, full force back at the protesters to get them to stop. [SPEAKER_06]: Even he is like, now we've got a only way to stop this is to fight back, because I mean, this is damn near an insurgency at this point and they, we can't just let him keep doing it, you know.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then I guess one of my last questions in for you is, because I think they shouldn't vote the insurrection act, is he not doing intentionally because of the optics of what it would look like for what it turns.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's the only thing that I could possibly think of here, but this city clearly needs it and it's only the city right now Yeah, like it's happened in a couple places in California because you're organized like you're talking about you know They've got the they've got the chats.

[SPEAKER_06]: They've got all this they've got the information they're concentrating everything there to fight back like They're saying to date like the 2% of ISIS arrest have been in in Minneapolis and like 23% have been in Texas [SPEAKER_06]: And besides one small incident, I saw in San Antonio nothing is happened in Texas. [SPEAKER_06]: No one's really, you know, there's protesters, sure, but they're being peaceful protesters.

[SPEAKER_06]: Because that's, you know, all four protests that's an important part of our, of our country and the history of our country go protest. [SPEAKER_06]: But once you cross that line into,

[SPEAKER_06]: you know fighting and blocking traffic and you know assaulting officers and doing all this stuff that's no longer protesting and that's what drives me crazy with the news and like oh there are just protesters i'm like no you've crossed that line now you know to mean it's not can't call it protest when you're throwing bricks at people you know to mean that's right that's not protesting um the other thing too and all all kind of go through some of these right now as far as the

[SPEAKER_04]: I refuse to call it X. I don't know why they do. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and the same thing I always call it Twitter It's the same thing here. [SPEAKER_04]: I still call it tweets I don't know what you would call it, but these are the these are the the messages that are going out This is Sean tell Ellen who was arrested. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, they did get him. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, she well. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a she. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I know looks like it do it But it's a girl.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a gal [SPEAKER_04]: A. Rondo ISIS in the neighborhood here's some tips on how to report and handle the situation. [SPEAKER_04]: Here's a hotline to call and report to save in your phone. [SPEAKER_04]: She gives out the number. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a 612 number. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm assuming that's Minneapolis. [SPEAKER_04]: And then they've got abbreviations for it. [SPEAKER_04]: So this is salute. [SPEAKER_04]: The S is for size.

[SPEAKER_04]: How many agents into our squad cars or presence? [SPEAKER_04]: Are there any other agencies presence? [SPEAKER_04]: A, activity. [SPEAKER_04]: What are they doing? [SPEAKER_04]: L, location. [SPEAKER_04]: Be specific about the neighborhood and cross streets. [SPEAKER_04]: Address is preferred. [SPEAKER_04]: U, uniform. [SPEAKER_04]: What type of uniform? [SPEAKER_04]: Are they wearing? [SPEAKER_04]: Are they mask? [SPEAKER_04]: If not in uniform, what are they wearing?

[SPEAKER_04]: And give that description. [SPEAKER_04]: T, time and date of the observation. [SPEAKER_04]: E, equipment. [SPEAKER_04]: What type of weapons are they carrying? [SPEAKER_04]: What type of vehicles are they driving? [SPEAKER_04]: This is fucking wild. [SPEAKER_06]: Did the other, they're using military tactics against them. [SPEAKER_06]: No, trust me. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, this is how you prepare for like a hit or something.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you're trying to gather intel in the military, that's the same exact acronym you'd use. [SPEAKER_06]: And I imagine they're probably picking the weakest targets. [SPEAKER_06]: They're looking at the size of the equipment they're carrying, and they're like, oh, it's, you know, for gonna hit somebody, let's hit this one, you know, they're, they're, you know, weaker.

[SPEAKER_06]: The other thing too is, you know, a lot of the, you know, you get in some of these operations, like local PD and state PD, their jobs to keep. [SPEAKER_06]: of, you know, a perimeter around what's going on, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: Like say DA comes in and serves a warrant on a drug dealer, whatever, right? [SPEAKER_06]: The local police's job typically is to have a perimeter around that to keep, you know, keep the Jen pop away from what's going on.

[SPEAKER_06]: But in a lot of these cases, the local and state PD is not cooperating with I. [SPEAKER_06]: So, I should never come in contact with people like that in the first place. [SPEAKER_06]: They should be able to go do their job and the local PD should keep these protesters off of them. [SPEAKER_06]: in a lot of these states. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, local PD is gone.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then let's face it, the chief who's been on TV has made a ton of statements saying, you know, I saw a kid to fuck out and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, keep your populist safe. [SPEAKER_06]: You should keep them away from interacting with people that are going to hurt them. [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, you're turning it political and you're putting the people that your job is to protect in danger by not keeping them apart. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: Like that, they should not be interacting directly with federal agents on the street. [SPEAKER_06]: That should not be happening.

[SPEAKER_04]: Bob, pull off this last one here. [SPEAKER_04]: This is from White Cheddar. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm a big fan of White Cheddar. [SPEAKER_04]: But here's how detailed this is. [SPEAKER_04]: So when you put this up on screen, I'll read it. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just click on the tweet there. [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's been up, so I mean, this is extremely detailed here.

[SPEAKER_04]: all the Minnesota signal chats so buyer near correct this is going through signal share share share doors unlocked word for north Minneapolis uh... alerts north at lord larry avenue north uh... larry avenue west city limits east Mississippi river shingle creek clear i mean it all of these it's just going down and look at all it's just brought on the list they are sharing on signal [SPEAKER_04]: and and the links to the signal group.

[SPEAKER_04]: So so Byron with that signal group, could you join something like that? [SPEAKER_04]: Just had to carry out. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I would probably need an invite like I would need a way to get in. [SPEAKER_05]: But yes, signal is just a encrypted messaging service. [SPEAKER_05]: So it just sends peer to peer. [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't go through some other server in the middle. [SPEAKER_05]: It's encrypted end to end.

[SPEAKER_05]: Just a, you know, a way you can talk to people without knowing that other people are looking into it. [SPEAKER_05]: Unless other people get into the group. [SPEAKER_05]: It's what has happened here. [SPEAKER_06]: They've been big on vouching like they're, they've got a pretty good opposite and internal security. [SPEAKER_06]: They've been trying to control who's in these groups.

[SPEAKER_06]: I know people have gotten in that are posts and some of this stuff, but they've been, they've controlled it pretty well. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's kind of scary slash impressive, you know, what they've been able to do, but it's, uh, [SPEAKER_04]: like sick white cheddar here on on this fucking dude on Twitter. [SPEAKER_04]: Why is that not been reported removed or this guy been arrested? [SPEAKER_04]: How are you allowed to post coordinates of where ice is headed?

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you get no weird spot between freedom of speech and, you know, treason, I guess at that point, you know, there's [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, people are allowed to say what they want to say, but yeah, where do you draw the line when they start putting, you know, police and federal federal agencies in the winter, yeah, I don't know where you fall in that, I mean, does that fall in the freedom of speech category, but you're also putting these people in harm.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know, I mean, you're competing in investigation. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, is it freedom of speech, yes, but like I said, like to pen, there's just very nuanced probably, you know, where not an expert on that portal all, like, you know, where does that line get drawn? [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: Do they?

[SPEAKER_06]: are they contributing to the violence or they just reporting what they see and that's one thing they said to a lot of these guys they've assigned them jobs you know they're very organized like all your job stop traffic your job to blow your whistle your job is to throw shit at them your job is to report their location you know they've they've assigned positions to people and they've become very organized at least least many able it's another is so uh... which is crazy i mean it's yes like it's all fucking nuts here and anybody with real jobs is a time for the

[SPEAKER_06]: unless this is your real job and you know the top paying you to do it and it's only a matter of time if it's I mean I don't hope it doesn't excrete that level but I mean car bombs I mean there's there's this can get pretty pretty scary and crazy if it keeps proceeding down the road that it's going you know to mean to they You know there's ice a shot a couple of them do they they up it they take it to the next level or They just keep doing what they're doing I sure and then Bob is since he's last cop here from Megan Kelly She's asking for the whistles

[SPEAKER_04]: the whistle should be banned. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how you ban a whistle. [SPEAKER_04]: But also, I've never heard a high pitched whistle like this. [SPEAKER_06]: If you like this, this is like, wait, whistles, I guess, I don't know. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a whistle expert, but I haven't raped yet. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not sure whether, but, you know, obviously willing to try. [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, also, we don't want to go down that way.

[SPEAKER_06]: I hate to see like, you know, Trump official, like, oh, it's banned whistles or let's ban whatever. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, no, we don't want to be going down that way. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Up. [SPEAKER_06]: This is the UK. [SPEAKER_04]: Give this a volume here. [SPEAKER_04]: So I can see some context of what Megan Kelly said. [SPEAKER_04]: You're good, you're good. [SPEAKER_04]: I know, but it was, she tweeted this video.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this is the shit they're throwing, too. [SPEAKER_04]: It's the rules on that, man, because I've seen a bunch of these dudes get hit with like, cans, like, hand goods. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not kidding. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, if you thought if you were talking somebody got hit with a rock yesterday, somebody got their fucking finger bitten off. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, yeah, we're talking about that. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm surprised whoever bit that finger-altern get shot.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's fucking crazy. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, I mean, don't bricks and shit that people, you're intending to hurt them and assault them. [SPEAKER_06]: Like you, they're going to, they should be taken your ass to jail for that. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and that's just crossing line. [SPEAKER_06]: That's not protesting anymore. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: When you're throwing stuff at people.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, there is a doctor, obviously, because let's face it. [SPEAKER_04]: If you're on Twitter, you are a doctor. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: You get your license. [SPEAKER_04]: You get a doctor it. [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, everybody's a fucking doctor. [SPEAKER_06]: Does everyone's a doctor of officer involved shootings this week? [SPEAKER_06]: Next week. [SPEAKER_06]: It'll be, you know, bridges or blints or something.

[SPEAKER_04]: Something already this fucking white six response here. [SPEAKER_04]: The repetitive exposure from them, the whistles.

[SPEAKER_04]: Fatigue's neutral pathways, but sustains heightened arousal, diverting cognitive resources from a higher order task, it's a basic threat monitoring, it's an acute stressor, activating the hypothalimic pituitary adrenal [SPEAKER_04]: access in sympathetic nerve system, which releases cortisol and adrenaline, long exposure to this stuff, impairs prefrontal cortex function, critical for decision-making, and layman's terms. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, doctor.

[SPEAKER_04]: They were putting these officers on edge and triggering them to act, pretty good, each new exactly what they wanted, and it's usually someone who ends up dying and not the instigating. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're making, they're making the agents, I mean, if someone's blown a whistle in my face all day, I'd want to fucking shoot him.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, yeah, not saying I would, but I definitely want to, you know, says now there's this dude on the right named Sernivich, people follow him, saying hi, I cue people. [SPEAKER_04]: Don't respond well to shrill noises from smoke alarms to those hearing loss Causing machines that terrorist use against ice These things should be considered violent weapon. [SPEAKER_04]: They damage hearing for life. [SPEAKER_04]: No idea.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard of whistle like that Like that true fleece, so I have no fucking idea what that is. [SPEAKER_06]: We got to be curled a lot of sports events in my life like Ever there's a big boozella's like the big horns and stuff, you know, oh, never go to whistle like that [SPEAKER_04]: I've said this story before being at that Oregon game. [SPEAKER_04]: It was the loudest goddamn place of all the time. [SPEAKER_04]: I just wanted the game to end.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was a great game, too. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, but it was so fucking loud, couldn't hear. [SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't hear the person next to me on either side, no, it's just like, I'm surprised. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get out of here after four hours of this. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm surprised. [SPEAKER_06]: I said it wasn't fire fire and gone out there with, you know, hitting these people with sonic weapons and water, you know, fire hoses.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, we did that some adoro, uh, the guy. [SPEAKER_06]: I think the one there are using a little bit. [SPEAKER_06]: You both need another level of shit there. [SPEAKER_04]: If you believe what that soldier said, because we covered that story on this show, where he said, look, man, fucking people, immediately started, it was called a vomit beam.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I felt the ones that like they have on the barricades and stuff and it does hurt and it, you know, you're you have I felt one low volume, you know, I had one of the guys, you know, show it to what it felt like. [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't didn't feel good. [SPEAKER_06]: They didn't crank it up or anything, but it wasn't going to maybe like shit my pants or whatever. [SPEAKER_06]: They told me. [SPEAKER_04]: That's a bit of a drill on it. [SPEAKER_04]: Blood out of eyes.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, you have to hold another level. [SPEAKER_04]: You're looking at something. [SPEAKER_04]: You're looking at strangers. [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's some crazy shit. [SPEAKER_04]: I know I absolutely want to present believe it exists. [SPEAKER_04]: because we cover this story years ago about the Hathana syndrome. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: With a- Oh, that absolutely exists.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they have the ones on the Bearcats, but it's not to that level. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure the military has way higher levels and swatting. [SPEAKER_03]: Sure they do. [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to make it stop at your foot and doing and go away. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And no earplugs and other shit stops it like it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to make you stop. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, fire hose will make you stop.

[SPEAKER_04]: uh... the uh... because the other part about this is with nothing really going on in the world right now uh... and football stopping which is you know the highest rate of thing ever let like let's face it shooting happened we all turn on the aFC and NFC championship i didn't turn the dial for about to be the end of that i think right yeah you're going to be able to have walled wall coverage on this shit and not have to compete with the NFL or college football which is you know the highest rating is the most important point time of the year from like now to like the super guest yeah well yeah even that's who rules not great

[SPEAKER_04]: people are not stoked, everybody in drink of roast forces like him out. [SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_06]: You asked up watching, and if I watch college football, and even that's getting ruined now, it's all like an A.L. [SPEAKER_06]: Bullshit. [SPEAKER_06]: Paying people in the near future. [SPEAKER_06]: They need to fix it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's getting out of control. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, it's a weird thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Shit even sports, man.

[SPEAKER_04]: We were watching. [SPEAKER_04]: We did a show about sports in general and how they're kind of this weird. [SPEAKER_04]: fucking cross point of like, is it money? [SPEAKER_04]: Just money and then, are you keeping the sport intact? [SPEAKER_04]: What are you trying to do here? [SPEAKER_04]: And just engage me, fuck, I saw his presser actually last night for the first time after that fight on Saturday. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you watched that fight against a patty pin.

[SPEAKER_04]: Is an absolute war. [SPEAKER_04]: guys kicked these shit out of each other and got brain damage and it was the greatest thing of all time. [SPEAKER_04]: They both got a bonus for it, but he goes, Gagees made his money and so like if that's when I want to see him out he gets kicked out, but here's what he said he goes look, all these bonuses combined still need an equal $1 million. [SPEAKER_04]: That's like it's like you're gonna wrench off this shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: I think it goes what? [SPEAKER_04]: I get 100 for this and he goes, I'm getting taxed on that, what I walk away was 60. [SPEAKER_06]: beat in the shit out of somebody getting the shit kicked out of me for 60 grand so yeah There's always a point of view like on NFL even college football like you know if we're gonna It's kind of the point where it's just money and there's no rules.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean just fucking pump and full steroids let him go to town You know have guides [SPEAKER_06]: You know, the fastest highest, you know, just have the freaky, as soon as he pops up. [SPEAKER_04]: Look at it there. [SPEAKER_04]: They're doing that. [SPEAKER_04]: Just fucking the steroids one. [SPEAKER_04]: That's like, that's going down right now, that's real. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this is fucking good. [SPEAKER_04]: Just being too, he's going to incentivize it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, steroid alignpicks or some shit, like, why not? [SPEAKER_04]: We got the real one, picks coming up. [SPEAKER_04]: I like the real epic salt watch that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it'll be so cold my hand. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I go all right. [SPEAKER_06]: I think baseball's back Is the winter is winter. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so in two weeks usually catchers and pictures report right around Valentine's Day, so Yeah, you know some fun stuff in the March madness.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's coming up. [SPEAKER_06]: I do like coach football ain't out. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a team I mean, it was a lot better than we thought they would be. [SPEAKER_06]: There you go. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there you go Well, look man. [SPEAKER_04]: I greatly appreciate you being here today Kyle tell everybody about your new company where they can find you and what you guys do [SPEAKER_06]: So customization station is a kiosk. [SPEAKER_06]: We'll be rolling out of the way.

[SPEAKER_06]: We'll be right back in March. [SPEAKER_06]: And basically, where our goal is to make customizing your firearm, kind of like you guys in the video. [SPEAKER_06]: Cerecote, laser engraving, things like that, easier. [SPEAKER_06]: That it can be offered in any gun shop in the United States and they get a little cut out of it. [SPEAKER_06]: Because a lot of what you see is, you know, people aren't going to gun store.

[SPEAKER_06]: And if your employees aren't trained on it, they don't know. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't know what Syracot is. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't have a laser engraving. [SPEAKER_06]: They're just like, hey, here's somebody's card down the road. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, let's go take care of it. [SPEAKER_06]: They're not getting anything out of it. [SPEAKER_06]: So we're trying to make it where any gun shop can do it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's easy.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, they don't need to understand the pricing. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't need to understand what it is. [SPEAKER_06]: The Kiosk explains it all. [SPEAKER_06]: So if you're a dealer or the Kiosk on your site right here, uh, we don't have, I don't think we have a picture of it just yet. [SPEAKER_04]: We're just going to get a patent. [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, not, uh, softwares were really hard to patent. [SPEAKER_06]: So probably not, but our goals were going to hit it hard.

[SPEAKER_06]: start to roll out 100 to 200 of these things a month out of the gate nationwide. [SPEAKER_06]: So if you're dealer, vendor, and you're interested in being part of the network, you can go to the website and there's a forum to sign up. [SPEAKER_06]: And we'll probably start beta testing here in the area, you know, San Antonio Austin area. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Pride mid-March is what we're looking at doing. [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to roll it out real fast from there.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll do. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for being here, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I greatly appreciate it now is the one that show we get to the drinking bro of the week Which is someone who has inspired you or helps you become the person you are today Who'd you like to give the drinking bro the week so? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, man. [SPEAKER_06]: I should have prepared me for this one drink and bro of the week Yeah, you should have prepared.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know for fucking eleven years. [SPEAKER_04]: I know I should I should I do even think about it shit By the way ratings and year eleven the highest we've ever had in the history of the show really yeah I don't know do you don't been killing did I Spotify that that video do a Spotify really helps [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, you were finally getting some help. [SPEAKER_06]: That's where I listen to it on Spotify.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we get nothing on YouTube, so it's like Spotify's helping. [SPEAKER_04]: Where they're like, hey, man, we believe in you guys. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I listen to Spotify all the time. [SPEAKER_06]: But let me say, drink and bro of the week, man, I'll, you know, I've been, I'm missing and out with them, and I haven't been, you know, doing a whole lot with them lately, but I guess I'll throw out to my old business partner Mike Mahalski at Sun's Liberty Gunwork.

[SPEAKER_04]: Mike's been on the show numerous times. [SPEAKER_06]: Love Mike. [SPEAKER_06]: He's still out there killing it. [SPEAKER_04]: He's great, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, because you guys didn't leave on any animosity. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I saw a shot show. [SPEAKER_06]: We hung out of shot show. [SPEAKER_06]: We're still good friends. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, there's more of a, you know, me and disagreement with the board kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_06]: But we're always we're still tight and, you know, I still support them and anything they, they're doing so. [SPEAKER_04]: Which is good, man, because you work for any company. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't care who you are or what level employee or owner or anything else. [SPEAKER_04]: Running a business is extremely, extremely difficult. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: If you can remain friends in the end, then you know that that's, uh, usually shit went all right.

[SPEAKER_06]: And there's one good thing to say about myself. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm probably one of those patient people ever meet. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm definitely not. [SPEAKER_06]: It's taking a lot of training to get to that level. [SPEAKER_06]: But I can put up a lot before I write somebody else. [SPEAKER_04]: So me, I'm in a super big of a rush, which is like, OK. [SPEAKER_04]: Great. [SPEAKER_04]: Next next thing like on to the next show. [SPEAKER_04]: Go on.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll go to the next. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll get, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Speaking of drinkin' that before we got it, I did have one drinking story. [SPEAKER_06]: I wanted to tell you though. [SPEAKER_03]: God, far away. [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, we just got done with shot shows about six years ago. [SPEAKER_06]: How was it? [SPEAKER_06]: I was last fun man. [SPEAKER_06]: There seem like there's less people.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's hard to tell if there's less people or who's more spread out. [SPEAKER_04]: Because it gets bigger every year or to the weather effect the flights to Vegas. [SPEAKER_06]: I hope so. [SPEAKER_06]: I'd like it when there's, they really need to get it out of struggling to set up board members. [SPEAKER_06]: They need to get it to the point where it's only the people that need to be there. [SPEAKER_06]: Like the tourists just get in the way.

[SPEAKER_04]: Problem is though, if you don't have those influencer, the influencer, they're posting a lot. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So like what I saw, because you know, we went for a few years in a row. [SPEAKER_04]: We did a lot of events there and it was fun. [SPEAKER_04]: But it got to a point. [SPEAKER_04]: There was so many influencers there. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to do it. [SPEAKER_04]: This is a band of the hearts man.

[SPEAKER_06]: There's people toten those little carts around the aisle. [SPEAKER_06]: They banned that crap. [SPEAKER_06]: That was ridiculous. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: But you also need those guys because they're promoting it. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I'm not even talking about the influence. [SPEAKER_06]: They're just people that are there that like, they bring their friends along. [SPEAKER_06]: And I do it too. [SPEAKER_06]: I've given badges to all sorts of people over the years.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Aaron Lewis, the musician like, [SPEAKER_06]: All sorts of people. [SPEAKER_04]: Bains, leads, singers. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, it's good friend, man. [SPEAKER_06]: We mean Mike, my friends with them, we sold him a gun a few years ago, and there's a lot of people that aren't even influenced, they're just there to look at shit, you know? [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's cool. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's very cool.

[SPEAKER_04]: It is cool to walk the floor and see all the cool shit, you know, like, okay. [SPEAKER_04]: And then chances are, you can make your meet some of your favorite people. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, there's a lot of lines. [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, oh, fuck, there's so-and-so. [SPEAKER_06]: So that's kind of where this story you're talking about fights and stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: So this is kind of where this story goes.

[SPEAKER_06]: So I was at the cry party about six years ago, just shit feast. [SPEAKER_06]: It was one where they had all the swords and the shields and it's like Viking themed and they had like, I think it was the one where they had all the jet skis. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like a little river. [SPEAKER_06]: And so you're tripping over all this crap, right? [SPEAKER_06]: And I tripped and I, you know, this guy bumps into me and I shove him. [SPEAKER_06]: out of my way on accident.

[SPEAKER_06]: I pushed him on purpose. [SPEAKER_06]: Like he bumps into me on accident and I put it I was like, I was just like, I can get the fuck out of my way. [SPEAKER_06]: So I didn't realize who it was. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, this guy kind of steps back, bigger dude and let's go his wife's hand. [SPEAKER_06]: And one of my directors Randy comes running up to me and she's like, do you know who that is? [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, I was fucked up.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, no, I don't know who that is. [SPEAKER_06]: And she's like, that's Royce Gracie. [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, oh, [SPEAKER_06]: Oh boy dude and like he looks at me and I look at him and I'm fucked up I'm sorry sir. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, yeah, where do I go with this?

[SPEAKER_06]: So I go like this It like no, no, just a fucker than like a very very like funny kind of like hey And he laughs and walks away and I was like that close to dying Yeah, like I think you only think it stopped him from killing me It was a fat that he probably didn't want to put on the news for killing some Gun industry exactly better by the way.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's that's chuckle doubts here because like people will come on So when when where I would shotgun public [SPEAKER_04]: and kind of fuck with them, you know, and do something like that. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, okay, cool man, but, you know, he deals with that like 500 times a day. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sober me would have never done that, but drunk me thought I was funny. [SPEAKER_06]: And I ran into him the next year and he didn't recognize me, so my car, I'm safe.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

[SPEAKER_04]: god damn the shit and the people if they reach out because they think you know them right so you're just like they will fuck with them and i'm like man that's you probably take that a little bit far here yeah [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't know who he was. [SPEAKER_06]: I would have, I typically don't shove people in the first place. [SPEAKER_06]: Like I said, I'm a pretty nice guy. [SPEAKER_06]: I typically don't push people or anything like that.

[SPEAKER_06]: But I was out of my fucking mind. [SPEAKER_06]: And my buddies and like active duty Navy SEAL standing right there and I have to have towards like, would you have intervened or try to do something? [SPEAKER_06]: You just like, no. [SPEAKER_06]: Like you're talking about like, you know, like the cops, like when the cops are beating your ass, like I'm taking a step back, he was like, nope, you're on your own on that one. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: I remember, since the Super Bowl is coming up, Mike Rabel. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I went to Ohio State and Rabel was there. [SPEAKER_04]: And the first guy who shoved him, he just looked at him in laughs, right? [SPEAKER_04]: And he was just like, you know, right? [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm like, am I able? [SPEAKER_04]: Like, we're not gonna do this. [SPEAKER_04]: And then two other fraternity dudes came over and tried it and I was like, oh boy.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I just set back and laughed my ass off. [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, he just starts chucking people around this fucking party. [SPEAKER_04]: Like their midgets at a Velcro d'Orford, like a mobile wall street, I was like, [SPEAKER_04]: Yep, you paid the price, like the first one he was willing to let go and the other two guys jumped in it was like see you later. [SPEAKER_04]: That's your own fault.

[SPEAKER_06]: One of the, so one of the investors and customization station is Bill Goldberg, the wrestler. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, shit. [SPEAKER_04]: Go, so we did a show with Goldberg. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's great dude. [SPEAKER_04]: He's a flagged Bob. [SPEAKER_07]: He almost killed Bob. [SPEAKER_07]: Pointed, f**king hand cannon at my forehead. [SPEAKER_06]: Listen to old school desert eagle. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, do I have seen those? [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, two of them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but he said one before fucking thing dude at eight pointed it right on accident like I don't know how many more than one time It was and but here's the thing What I'm stuck because he's sitting at Goldberg sitting next to me, and I'm like I'm not I can't say anything to Goldberg if he kills Bobby kills Bob Yes, I just he had it coming. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sorry, but yeah, so we paid Bob did not have a coming by the way [SPEAKER_04]: for the audience.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you're talking about like, you know, throwing people around. [SPEAKER_06]: They paid, there's a, they did a stunt for charity while back where you picked up a dude at a golf court tournament and like chucked him in a lake. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, yeah, he'll do that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, he's cool. [SPEAKER_06]: He's a super cool dude, man. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, very funny dude, and I enjoyed him Bob did not love guns.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's a great guy loves guns. [SPEAKER_04]: Bob did not enjoy him. [SPEAKER_04]: He was great till he wasn't Man, appreciate you sooner than go to iTunes right the show five star and leave a quick review and hop on over to spot a five just a five star [SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate you tracking through the snow and join in us today Kyle. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, did have blast. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, man Even though he's not here. [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the flight backs.

[SPEAKER_04]: What's going to what I could just want to pick him up? [SPEAKER_04]: At least he got back. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we'll see fingers crossed because we have a fucking deal tomorrow on a Mike. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, bro [SPEAKER_04]: There's two of us on this contract and you got to sign as well at the bank tomorrow. [SPEAKER_04]: So, uh, for our day of South America show the fuck up. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get back. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's lay out. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get back here.

[SPEAKER_04]: But since he's not here for the end of the day of the all the way, I'm Ross Patterson. [SPEAKER_04]: This is the drinking froze pod. [SPEAKER_04]: Cas, good. [SPEAKER_04]: Not everyone.