Episode 1534 - I Come From A Land Down Under

[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to drinking thrones presented by Omaha State.com. [SPEAKER_01]: Sit back relax and have a bucket trick trick trick trick [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, welcome to drinking bro's kids. [SPEAKER_02]: It's that good old Friday afternoon show. [SPEAKER_04]: That's super weird, super weird. [SPEAKER_04]: Who do we got here, Tantany? [SPEAKER_04]: Mind your business. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe I will, maybe I won't. [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know what I'm about today.

[SPEAKER_04]: Kai, you don't know what the fuck I'm about today. [SPEAKER_04]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: I heard that his name is Ryan Morseby White, by the way, we'll get into that in a minute, but I heard that [SPEAKER_05]: that all of Gordon's shutting down permanently. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I did not. [SPEAKER_04]: That's the lie. [SPEAKER_05]: That's the lie. [SPEAKER_04]: Where? [SPEAKER_05]: Everywhere. [SPEAKER_04]: No, that's not true. [SPEAKER_04]: That's not true at all.

[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, I'm getting, I texted Brandon. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm getting all of Gordon veteran hats made with the stars and everything else for people who serves like me. [SPEAKER_04]: So we've got you on the show to get some griev. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm grieving really fucking hard right now. [SPEAKER_00]: You got the right person. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I am grieving really fucking hard. [SPEAKER_04]: I see the the cross on your neck there, brother and That's a lower cake get over Hogan dude.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's a lower case T actually. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a sword. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it's a cross sword [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's for Jesus. [SPEAKER_04]: You're killing for Jesus. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's fine. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and that's all fine. [SPEAKER_04]: We should make it a lesser back here with the Hulk of Mania shirt on cuts that camera back there. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll bring him up for Dringibbo the week at the ends.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're gonna. [SPEAKER_04]: He's gonna rip his shirt off at the end of the show. [SPEAKER_04]: I did earlier, man, and like I'm still fucking having a really goddamn hard time with this isn't because you found out he was actually murdered or [SPEAKER_05]: Well, look, she's crazy. [SPEAKER_05]: Who's who's the she? [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, his daughter. [SPEAKER_04]: Broke. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she's crazy. [SPEAKER_04]: What happened? [SPEAKER_04]: She wants an on top.

[SPEAKER_04]: See, she thinks he was murdered. [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, an aspirin on top. [SPEAKER_04]: See, the wife didn't since like he's seventy one. [SPEAKER_04]: He did steroids for fifty years. [SPEAKER_04]: Do we need an on top? [SPEAKER_04]: See, for what? [SPEAKER_05]: Didn't he have leukemia? [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, allegedly. [SPEAKER_04]: She doesn't believe it. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't. [SPEAKER_08]: She doesn't believe he had leukemia. [SPEAKER_08]: What did Hulk Hogan know?

[SPEAKER_05]: How many times has in the history of human beings, leukemia have been faked? [SPEAKER_04]: At least twice. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I bet you two of those make a wish kids faked it's a meat tin tube. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, you know, maybe the meat John Cena and then he shows up and you can't see and what's a business disappointment. [SPEAKER_02]: John Cena. [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, he did the most make wishes of all time.

[SPEAKER_05]: And some people think the John Cena might be the angel death broke the record. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like five hundred and fifty something. [SPEAKER_08]: He's a dick. [SPEAKER_04]: That's a lot. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he had so he did break the record for a make wish. [SPEAKER_08]: So I wasn't I got your five hundred or something. [SPEAKER_04]: Correct. [SPEAKER_08]: I remember it was actually when he broke the record.

[SPEAKER_08]: Where were you on the TV and I thought it was still funny. [SPEAKER_08]: We were at Rob O'Neill's golf tournament in Tennessee. [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: Way. [SPEAKER_05]: Was that like your nine, eleven? [SPEAKER_05]: It was worse than nine, eleven. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a lot of people would say that. [SPEAKER_08]: Not only was actually kind of fun for me, because I just hung out. [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody's parents were picking them up.

[SPEAKER_08]: My parents left me at school, but we were just playing like board games and shit. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, good for you. [SPEAKER_04]: Good for you. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if you have the four thousand people that died, you know, Saturday, it was three thousand. [SPEAKER_04]: It was about you had a good. [SPEAKER_05]: Flight ninety three went down not too far away from where you grew up. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So your parents just left you at school?

[SPEAKER_08]: Left me at school. [SPEAKER_08]: It was the last kid to get picked up. [SPEAKER_08]: Make sense, make sense. [SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't want to get you either on nine eleven. [SPEAKER_04]: You should. [SPEAKER_04]: That would see if you were seeing a community level. [SPEAKER_05]: You'd be a great joke to tell if you were a stand-up comedian. [SPEAKER_05]: Like yet nine levels are really rough day for me. [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. [SPEAKER_05]: Not for the reasons that you think.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: We can do some walk. [SPEAKER_00]: I can have a conversation off time. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Imagine your dad was black on nine eleven. [SPEAKER_04]: And he didn't pick you up. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you would never ever forget that. [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, this is like, I'm going out to get a packet of cools. [SPEAKER_04]: See you never. [SPEAKER_04]: See you never again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what show you're coming on today? [SPEAKER_00]: I've no idea what I'm getting myself. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you sure don't. [SPEAKER_04]: So for the Hulkster here, can I just read off this funeral? [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not jealous about a lot of celebrity shit. [SPEAKER_04]: I've gotten into a bunch of cool shit in my lifetime. [SPEAKER_04]: There's very few times where I'm like Fuck man. [SPEAKER_04]: I wish I was there. [SPEAKER_04]: This is one of them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let me let me read off this list Vince McMahon. [SPEAKER_04]: Come on [SPEAKER_04]: You know at the after party he was shitting on girls. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Do you guys watch wrestling in the field? [SPEAKER_00]: People do I don't I don't grow watching wrestling or watching. [SPEAKER_00]: Blacks racing. [SPEAKER_00]: Blacks. [SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck is that? [SPEAKER_00]: Right across. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: RAPJ jail jail jail jail jail. [SPEAKER_04]: Love jail. [SPEAKER_05]: Here's a show and then he passed a few and slater drink booze out of a shoe on the show. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was great. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was rough. [SPEAKER_04]: That was rough for the sport. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Triple H was there. [SPEAKER_04]: Stephanie McMahon is married to triple H obviously they probably weren't shedding on anybody.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't I've there's no smoke on them and and poop Not at all and plus let's be honest Stephanie McMahon is fucking hot dude like she's place I have a teenagers wrestling days she was she was the meme back in the day of like oh, I think I'll have [SPEAKER_05]: Another margarita, you know, or I know what she looks like from like ninety seven or whatever the last. [SPEAKER_04]: She looks good.

[SPEAKER_04]: She's still plus she got some some new bolt-ons and everything so she's actually on sting was there which one not not Gordon I don't think [SPEAKER_05]: Not Gordon. [SPEAKER_04]: Did you imagine seeing the singer showed up there? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, dressed as state wrestler. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Have they ever done that? [SPEAKER_05]: Have they ever done a crossover together? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if Gordon gets it, you know. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know either.

[SPEAKER_04]: What's the Bob? [SPEAKER_04]: What's that really slow song that he could have played at the... I'll be watching you. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_04]: Imagine if he went at coup. [SPEAKER_04]: Straight at coup for Hogan. [SPEAKER_04]: You're not. [SPEAKER_04]: You're not. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be watching. [SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_06]: No, that's not the best way to do it. [SPEAKER_06]: I'll be missing you. [SPEAKER_06]: It's, it's, he starts playing.

[SPEAKER_06]: But it's not his song. [SPEAKER_06]: It's Ditty. [SPEAKER_06]: It's the one Ditty. [SPEAKER_06]: It's Ditty. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh boy, Ditty comes up. [SPEAKER_05]: It's Ditty and Mace singing about fucking biggie getting killed. [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, there was a rumor. [SPEAKER_04]: You guys have been hit me about this. [SPEAKER_04]: I can go ahead and poop who this right now. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not true that the day he gets out, he's going to do a concert in Madison Square Garden.

[SPEAKER_04]: That is not true. [SPEAKER_04]: By the way. [SPEAKER_05]: No, he's got a lot of some people. [SPEAKER_05]: He's got a lot of shopping to do. [SPEAKER_05]: They confiscated all nine hundred of his bottles of baby oil. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's got stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: If I'm him, I want to back. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I want. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, one, I don't know if they give you that stuff back. [SPEAKER_05]: It's evidence that came from your house, so technically it's your property.

[SPEAKER_05]: And it's good. [SPEAKER_05]: But how's your back? [SPEAKER_05]: But how you know, they didn't bug the baby well. [SPEAKER_05]: True. [SPEAKER_05]: True. [SPEAKER_04]: Next up on that list, Lex Luger. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_04]: Four horsemen. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's go. [SPEAKER_04]: Eric Bischoff was there. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh nice Kevin Nash Jimmy Harts. [SPEAKER_04]: Not Scott Hawkins. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh shit your cousin was there, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: Watch on.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hacksaw Jim Duncan was there. [SPEAKER_04]: I wonder if he fucking pounded the, uh, the casket with the two by four. [SPEAKER_04]: That would have been fucking dope, dude. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, shit. [SPEAKER_08]: Nash is the last member of the new world order that's still alive. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and then wait, Dennis Romm is still alive. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, for now.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's a, that's a, and then, uh, Bruno's the barber beef kick. [SPEAKER_04]: So we just told, ironically, that's story about him. [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was on that infamous flight where Andre the Giants [SPEAKER_05]: had that twenty pounds shit yeah somebody commented by the way that he couldn't get the door closed and they just hung a sheet oh probably yeah probably would cause there's no way that he could have fit inside of uh... like even if you uh... liquefied him i don't think he would fit inside of of an airplane bathroom yeah uh... kid rock was there obviously this is like a uh...

[SPEAKER_05]: It's like a murderous row of shitbacks. [SPEAKER_04]: Bammar Jarrow is there again. [SPEAKER_04]: Theo Vaughan was there. [SPEAKER_04]: Theo's good. [SPEAKER_04]: Who gets daughter, Brooke? [SPEAKER_04]: The one who keeps talking shit did not attend the funeral. [SPEAKER_04]: So there were strange for many, many years. [SPEAKER_04]: So these weird stories, I don't know if you heard this, but her first interview, she called into Bubba the Love Sponge. [SPEAKER_04]: Why?

[SPEAKER_04]: The guy who set us is the guy who ruined his fucking life. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, crazy to me. [SPEAKER_05]: Only temporarily. [SPEAKER_05]: He got a hundred thirty million dollars on that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just a banger of a funeral, man. [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of tears, brother. [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of vitamins. [SPEAKER_05]: So are you grieving because he's dead because you missed that party?

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty no, I'm grieving because he's dead, obviously, but the party too, like that would have been fun to go to. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's a tough one. [SPEAKER_04]: When you lose your childhood heroes like this left and right, it is. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're really getting knocked off quickly here. [SPEAKER_05]: Do you feel transported back to childhood now? [SPEAKER_04]: I do.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's a part of me that does and they're selling those figurines again and people are going and buying those outs and all that other stuff because we don't have that right now. [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have any larger-than-life characters anymore. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't feel like. [SPEAKER_04]: Who is it like WWE? [SPEAKER_04]: I guess you'd say it's Cody Rhodes? [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: There's nobody in professional sports of any sort. [SPEAKER_05]: That's like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I agree. [SPEAKER_05]: Not one person. [SPEAKER_04]: I agree. [SPEAKER_04]: So that's why I think that's why people are still talking about it and in all this other stuff, like Ozzy Osbourne. [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have an Ozzy Osbourne today. [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have that guy who's going to bite the head off a bat and go nuts on a stage. [SPEAKER_05]: Now all the recent ones that are crazy kill themselves.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, instead of, you know, while they kill themselves in the more I guess, uh, direct way instead of the indirect way that we expect rock stars to kill themselves, which is to do drugs drink for thirty-four, forty years. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and since you're a therapist, let me ask you about that because my kid loves lithium, and uh, this is the band or the drug. [SPEAKER_04]: It's called it's lithium channel on serious X. Oh, so it's just like alternative from the ninety.

[SPEAKER_04]: Correct. [SPEAKER_04]: Nineties and then early two thousand. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, here's what I'm having a hard time with, and I'm being totally dead serious when I say this. [SPEAKER_04]: Every fucking song that comes on that he loves. [SPEAKER_04]: My oldest is, if he's eleven, is dead. [SPEAKER_04]: And he always asks the same thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Dad, can we go see them? [SPEAKER_05]: Allison Chains, Nirvana, and Lincoln Park.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: And Chris Cornell, Cornell. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, John Garden too. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and Stone Temple Pilots. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Scott. [SPEAKER_04]: These played like back to back to back. [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm sitting there in the car. [SPEAKER_04]: This is no lie. [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, he's dead. [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, he's dead. [SPEAKER_04]: He's dead. [SPEAKER_04]: He's dead. [SPEAKER_04]: He's dead.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's dead. [SPEAKER_04]: And finally, he was just like, well, how do they die? [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, yeah, some drugs, but, you know, some ropes, some ropes. [SPEAKER_04]: Two of them hung themselves with an exercise band, which I find. [SPEAKER_04]: Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that seems like the edging of suicide doesn't it does where you think you might make it because it's it's bendable and you're like, all right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I can back out of this at the last time. [SPEAKER_08]: You got to go full bin wall with the weight set. [SPEAKER_04]: Just a cable machine. [SPEAKER_04]: I think so too. [SPEAKER_04]: Does that what he did? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you just cable machists. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you got to go this cable machine dog.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I wanted to ask you this because [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of these guys who are doing hard court drugs, like I'll throw Anthony Bourdain on that list as well. [SPEAKER_04]: I have a theory, and I've always had this theory, when you do heroin, and it's the greatest feeling of all time, and then you quits, and you can never go back to it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think they look at their lives like, dude, I, no matter how many people I play for, or how much love I receive from fans around the world, I can never match this feeling, so fuck it, I'm just gonna kill myself. [SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it is? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, [SPEAKER_00]: most, and I've worked with some pretty high performing individuals athletes. [SPEAKER_04]: Paul Cogan. [SPEAKER_04]: Ross Patterson. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, wish you're working.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, some of these guys, like, I hope to actually, obviously, not these guys, because they're dead, but, you know, celebrities and, you know, the figures that people look up to today, like, I, that's why I'm here sharing this message, because I can reach them, and I want to be working with them before it gets that point. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't have to get to that point.

[SPEAKER_00]: but a lot of men wait until it's painful enough and then they have no other way out apart from that's the only way that they know so yet there's a huge correlation between our men who are so disconnected from their soul and who have become so good at their craft and what they do and there's a reason why they so fucking good at it right because they're driven from so much pain

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is how, like a man will be driven from the little boy, the little boy within him who is seeking his love and attention. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why when he achieves the success and he makes all the money, he does all the thing, he has all the status, all the fame, all of it. [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel enough and it never isn't off. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why they need more and more and more.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're only way to feel a sense of connection to themselves is through drugs. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Is through these crazy highs that they get from these behaviors or habits or patterns that don't serve them. [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so to answer your question, it's there. [SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to come back home to themselves to their soul. [SPEAKER_00]: But it will never be done through that way.

[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be done through reclaiming their past. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I look at it and I'm being totally dead serious when I say this like if I couldn't go to dinner [SPEAKER_04]: and have a glass of wine with my wife. [SPEAKER_04]: And I had to be sober and all that other shit, it would be fucking miserable.

[SPEAKER_04]: And to never be able to do any of that shit ever again, that was enjoyable, it's a tough one to think about for the rest of your life, because let's say you're a young guy like a Chris Cornell or somebody like that. [SPEAKER_04]: And you're like, fuck man, I had another thirty-five years to go without doing any of this shit ever again. [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck this man. [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's a deeper problem than that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's, uh, achievement without fulfillment creates a big hole, like a much bigger hole and you then just being a loser in general. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: People that are super high performers like Kate's bait, for example, was a self-made billionaire. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Killed herself because she had achievement without fulfillment. [SPEAKER_05]: I guess she was bipolar though. [SPEAKER_05]: Um, you can.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know where care about any of that. [SPEAKER_05]: So all of these people who are high performers who end up killing themselves, typically speaking, it's not just mental illness for the most part. [SPEAKER_05]: It's that they've done everything that they thought they were supposed to do, whether somebody lied to them about it or whether they had a false perception of reality.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they've got to the mountaintop and realize that they're up there by themselves and that's always going to be that way. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: That's fucking crippling. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree. [SPEAKER_04]: And to me, you know, with the drug element and everything else, let's say chithing Chester Bennington at a normal family and all the other stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, he was always a depressed boy. [SPEAKER_05]: You can hear it in the lyrics.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: But once Cornell killed himself, that was his idol. [SPEAKER_05]: And he was like, well, fuck this, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And it is psychology's very contagious in that regard. [SPEAKER_04]: Kurt Cobain's another one. [SPEAKER_04]: My kid loves Nirvana. [SPEAKER_04]: All the kids in middle school love Nirvana. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: That is their fucking jam. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's really. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's wild, man.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's crazy how bad the band was, but how good the music was. [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like seriously, that nothing that they did was good. [SPEAKER_05]: They didn't play their instruments terribly well. [SPEAKER_05]: The songs were okay. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the songs were well written and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_05]: But the performances were... I think that's part of it. [SPEAKER_05]: It's like fucking surrealist art.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like that. [SPEAKER_04]: And because I love Nirvana for that exact reason. [SPEAKER_04]: It was messy, it was sloppy, it was all over the place. [SPEAKER_04]: But yet, there was... [SPEAKER_04]: a form of perfection through that. [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, how did you guys do this? [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's pretty incredible. [SPEAKER_04]: For real, if you think about it. [SPEAKER_04]: Who are you dealing with on a daily basis as far as clients go?

[SPEAKER_04]: Is it high-performing guys? [SPEAKER_04]: Is it normal people going on throughout the day? [SPEAKER_04]: Because we try to do these serious shows once a month to help people because we get it all the time. [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody will DM us and say, hey man, [SPEAKER_04]: Not feeling great about my life. [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I want to kill myself. [SPEAKER_04]: And we've all been there before, including myself.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I think Dan's not summed it up the best a few months ago. [SPEAKER_04]: We're in a dark studio, so I have no idea about time or space or when the show was. [SPEAKER_04]: But Dan said, it's usually in a span of like five to fifteen minutes where you just snap and have that thought if you can just get out of that, then typically you don't kill yourself. [SPEAKER_04]: Is that true? [SPEAKER_04]: Because that seems logical to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: The men that I, so yes, so typically there's a part of him that's coming up, that's just like exile, like... [SPEAKER_00]: destroy, just really destructive part of him. [SPEAKER_00]: I typically work with men before it even gets to that point. [SPEAKER_00]: So the subtle trauma that they experience or this subtle disconnection they experience in their relationship or the lack of fulfillment that they feel in their business.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I work with them and I try and work them before it even gets to that point. [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of men wait until it gets to that point so they realize how important this work is, but it doesn't have to get to that point. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you know, I've experienced periods of that throughout my life, and those were really the decisions in that moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a decision to, I mean, I made a decision that I'll never not put my happiness first again, and that was me listening to my heart for the first time, right? [SPEAKER_00]: After a period of time of wanting to kill myself, you're happiness? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, explain that to the audience. [SPEAKER_04]: Why isn't your happiness first? [SPEAKER_00]: So to give some context, I dropped out of school, I became a builder, I was working in construction, and I was doing well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was doing well, I was making money from the outside looking in, it looked like I was, you know, things were going well. [SPEAKER_00]: And eventually it got to this point where I was working seven days a week, I'd push on my friends' way, and it was just like a real season of my life where I was just heavily considering it'd be much easier to leave this world than it would be to stay in it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I had built that life, and I had climbed that ladder in that career path from the place of this little boy within me, following the only way that I know how to get my dad's approval. [SPEAKER_00]: which was this is the path that I go. [SPEAKER_00]: And basically, what happens is as children, it's more important for us to survive, to fit in, to get the validation from our parents that we need.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's more important for us to be whoever the fuck we need to be for them. [SPEAKER_00]: than be ourselves. [SPEAKER_00]: So at some point, at some stage, a child, a little boy disconnects from himself and starts to build this life, this false self, this false sense of self. [SPEAKER_00]: And basically, this is where it's like, yeah, it looked like I was doing well. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I had a massive potential career ahead of me.

[SPEAKER_00]: but inside I was so disconnected from myself. [SPEAKER_00]: But that sense of loneliness and isolation and disconnection that I felt that led me down the path of yes I'm making money, yes I've got a big career ahead of me, yes I've got the approval from my dad, but I feel so fucking empty and alone and I need women to make me feel better. [SPEAKER_00]: I need gym and training to make me feel.

[SPEAKER_00]: I needed all these vices in these things, scrolling social media, to fill that void of emptiness. [SPEAKER_00]: So when we disconnect from our true self as children, it's like this big V, it's like this big void. [SPEAKER_00]: We become whoever the fuck we need to be and we build this false self. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like our souls over here. [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of empty space.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the loneliness that most men try and fill the void with women drinking drugs, alcohol, sex, partying, all the stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: So until we come back to where and how we disconnected from ourselves. [SPEAKER_00]: Until we come back there, we'll be trying to fill that void. [SPEAKER_00]: So basically, it's coming back home to your soul, to your heart, to your true essence. [SPEAKER_00]: That may seem very foreign.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know that there's quite a lot of depth in that. [SPEAKER_00]: But to really answer the question here. [SPEAKER_00]: It took for me to get to that point. [SPEAKER_00]: For me to go, I will never not prioritize myself and my heart and my happiness over anything else. [SPEAKER_00]: But what actually happened in that moment was I was going against my dad.

[SPEAKER_00]: was going against my family and at some point a little boy at some point we go against our father the energy of the father we kind of oppose him a little bit and we do that we kind of find our own way in the world and it took for me to get to that point but that was the decision it was I'm going to put my heart first my happiness first [SPEAKER_00]: and in doing so, I was saying yes to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: No longer being whoever I needed to be in the world to be perceived a certain way. [SPEAKER_00]: It was a full body decision of [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I've built this life from warning. [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine the life I could build from like a real conscious place. [SPEAKER_00]: If I could build this, imagine what would be possible. [SPEAKER_00]: And that was a decision I left. [SPEAKER_00]: I literally, my tools sit in the shed today, about fifty grand worth of tools.

[SPEAKER_00]: They just sit there, close the door, shut them up, and pursued what I always wanted to do, which was coaching. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was working with athletes, professional motorcross races and stuff I got working with them coaching them mentally, physically, emotionally, which let me down the path to where I am now, which is like serving men, helping them really deepen into themselves and become the best version of themselves for their family.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think the hardest thing is trying to get men to be honest about what they're facing with their problems are and actually talk about it. [SPEAKER_04]: That's number one. [SPEAKER_04]: Because everybody dude wise kind of shuts in. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a great cool. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to bury these emotions way down deep inside and you'll never find them and then I'll die with them. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's weird, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like you would never [SPEAKER_05]: But most men especially high functioning men wouldn't go to a restaurant and equivocate about what they wanted for dinner. [SPEAKER_05]: You wouldn't be like, you know, maybe I'll get this or someone's like, oh, you don't want to eat a steak. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I guess maybe I'll get chicken that would never happen. [SPEAKER_05]: No actual man.

[SPEAKER_05]: whatever listen to feedback like that and this is what you're doing when you're when you're equivocating about expressing yourself you're worried about what somebody else might think about it that's what's happening right which is fucking stupid because that's not that person's on your head they have no responsibility for what you're feeling so why are you putting it on to them [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a negative sense.

[SPEAKER_05]: But we do that with the way we feel that it's like, what is it embarrassing that I want my woman to love me and be happy? [SPEAKER_05]: Why can't I share that? [SPEAKER_05]: Why should I feel any sort of negative emotion about seeing that to my body? [SPEAKER_04]: I agree. [SPEAKER_04]: And then something I wanted to clear up that we said a few weeks ago that was on the show about like high school. [SPEAKER_04]: Sweetheart's getting married and something else.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was on one of these shows I forget it was a clip and they were like, [SPEAKER_04]: You know, there's nothing wrong with that. [SPEAKER_04]: No, there absolutely is not. [SPEAKER_04]: It's just rare that they say together and you find true love. [SPEAKER_04]: It's, you know, eighteen years old and it lives forever, right? [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a great thing, by the way.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I want to clear that up, but also I agree with you in regards to, yeah, there's nothing wrong with saying how much you love your wife, how much you love your kids. [SPEAKER_04]: I do it all the time on this show because I'm grateful. [SPEAKER_04]: I feel grateful for that. [SPEAKER_04]: Now I personally didn't have a rough childhood. [SPEAKER_04]: Dan has. [SPEAKER_04]: I think my biggest fears. [SPEAKER_04]: It's failure.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that is something that keeps me up at nights every single fucking night. [SPEAKER_04]: Stress, stress, the fuck outs, up to, you know, four, thirty the morning trying to crunch numbers and everything else. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's take the, the, the, the sellouts are company for example, hardy of sellouts are.

[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of our listeners are investors in this company and I, I, I, [SPEAKER_04]: would feel like a massive failure if this company didn't succeed to the, the, the high-fitted could. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And right now, it is growing in such a tremendous pace that we've tripled the numbers from last year and everybody's like, oh my God, isn't this great? [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, no, it's not because now we've got to triple the output.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then there's a window of time that let's call it ninety days that you got to, [SPEAKER_04]: save up money and put out more and do all this other shit and therefore it's scary every single day and I like I've got a phone call after this after the show is over and [SPEAKER_04]: I can't sleep. [SPEAKER_04]: It's keeping me up at night and everything else because it's like, man, how can something be so too successful that you can't keep up with it at a certain point?

[SPEAKER_04]: And like, I don't want to let all these people down. [SPEAKER_04]: What do you recommend in a situation like this? [SPEAKER_04]: Because I'm trying not to let it affect my family life and my wife and my kids, but it's hard not to think about all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man. [SPEAKER_00]: Great point. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what I work with. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: This is what I work with. [SPEAKER_04]: This is really the only thing that I'm struggling with.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like for real. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's the fear of letting others down. [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, not only myself, but others. [SPEAKER_04]: Like I genuinely care. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what's keeping me up at night where I feel like I made all the right decisions. [SPEAKER_04]: Like all these decisions have been correct. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously the fucking company is tripled year over year. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, all right, great.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I still can't figure out this piece of, you know, that last investor, this last thing or this last phone call. [SPEAKER_04]: It's always one more phone call, right? [SPEAKER_04]: So what do you recommend in a situation like that? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, first of all, I think a lot of men want things to come to an end. [SPEAKER_00]: So if I just solve this then, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because like a little checklist, you're just trying to get shit off my foot.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I just do this then, I'll then things be good. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we're like with the movie scripts and books and I've been highly successful on both. [SPEAKER_04]: There is an ant. [SPEAKER_04]: I know when that end is. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, all right, great. [SPEAKER_04]: The next book comes out of November, eleventh. [SPEAKER_04]: It is over. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like it is done. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have to think about that.

[SPEAKER_05]: Are you doing it on Veterans Day on purpose? [SPEAKER_05]: Is it Veterans Day? [SPEAKER_05]: November, eleventh as you know. [SPEAKER_04]: It's Tuesday. [SPEAKER_04]: Books come on in Tuesdays. [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't care about to do there. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Is there no better answer? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: She didn't know. [SPEAKER_04]: You should do it on September eleven. [SPEAKER_04]: That way and people never forget.

[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, I tried. [SPEAKER_04]: My copy editor can't keep up with me, but yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: But anyways. [SPEAKER_04]: So those things, there is an ending to like movies. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: We did range fifteen for example, and that was another one. [SPEAKER_04]: where the audience had paid for this movie. [SPEAKER_04]: And there was a lot of fucking pressure to do it, deliver it and everything else.

[SPEAKER_04]: What they don't know, and this is something that I can tell you now, is you have to clear music rights before you go into theaters.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that day, I was waiting for a contract from Louis Armstrong [SPEAKER_04]: I see skies blue and I'm like yeah exactly that's that's that's off the cuff So yeah, I don't think I can but the contract has not been signed by the other side it was in the film in the finished version The premiere was its seven o'clock and it was going out seven o'clock around the nation if I played that I would have gotten my ass suit off rights if I didn't have this contract signed

[SPEAKER_04]: four fifty eight it gets signed and you know I'm able to stress is gone I can go and enjoy my life and everything else and then when that song came up in the movie like I've been the back and I moved my wife and uh... and it's the crime because I'm like that almost ruined my life and it was two minutes away from [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, right? [SPEAKER_04]: But those are the things that I think about every day that keeps me up. [SPEAKER_04]: What do you do for something like that?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man. [SPEAKER_00]: What a story. [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, that's incredible. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: When the little boy is showing up, responsibility is a very overwhelming thing for him. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: So, but I'm a big boy. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And I, I'm not a little kid and I don't like, I don't have any trauma as a kid. [SPEAKER_04]: So that's not a thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, this is just current shit that I'm worried about. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: When someone tells me that they had a great childhood and they didn't have any trauma that's like, boom, red flag for me. [SPEAKER_00]: Because we all had... Which thing I get raised at a hearty? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a thing. [SPEAKER_00]: That's called Junior. [SPEAKER_00]: That's almost... That's almost the thing trauma is. [SPEAKER_00]: Is this big event?

[SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: Is this defining event where my life was different the day after that? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we talked about it earlier actually on citizen. [SPEAKER_05]: It'll come out next week or two weeks. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know when, but I've said this on the show a bunch of times with post-traumatic stress and veterans. [SPEAKER_05]: People have this idea of the guy with his buddies heading his lap.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's bleeding out like fucking forest gump and Bubba or some shit like that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing that got him. [SPEAKER_05]: That's the thing that snapped. [SPEAKER_05]: But no, it's prolonged exposure to something that you're not supposed to be exposed to, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So we're latch key kids. [SPEAKER_05]: Our whole generation was. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're a seventy or eighty years older than me, but [SPEAKER_05]: I just turned thirty four.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's a liar man. [SPEAKER_04]: I just turned thirty four. [SPEAKER_04]: I know. [SPEAKER_05]: We're we're we're we're Lachke kids. [SPEAKER_05]: We were part of the first American generation where the bulk the majority. [SPEAKER_05]: I think seventy two or seventy three percent of mom and dad were both parents work. [SPEAKER_05]: So the summer time.

[SPEAKER_05]: This we're talking about from like [SPEAKER_05]: five or six years old to eight years old that window specifically you can go back to three but usually you're not without mom in that period so right but five to eight specifically late elementary early middle school maybe depending on where are I'm said no that's all middle school are all elementary school so that time period where typically speaking your mom would be in the home helping you understand how to emotionally regulate

[SPEAKER_05]: You were by yourself, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Or with your brother or friends or something like that, you were around other children. [SPEAKER_05]: And you never, whether you know it or not, you were hungry spiritually and there was no one there to feed you, right? [SPEAKER_05]: It sounds something you shouldn't hang a plaque on your wall, emotional fucking trauma from childhood. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not the point of this. [SPEAKER_05]: The point of it is to diagnose issues, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: So there's something about being able to regulate emotionally, being able to experience a negative emotion, and then put it aside and do the shit that you need to do anyways with a clear mind. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what a man is able to do, right? [SPEAKER_05]: It's not easy, but the more you do it, the easier it gets. [SPEAKER_05]: But if you don't diagnose it and deal with it, just because you had an easy childhood, [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: And here's the thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm pretty open, like, really open. [SPEAKER_04]: And probably from doing over four to five hundred podcasts here at now, at this point. [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's what everybody relates to because people are going through the same thing at home with their businesses. [SPEAKER_04]: And like, you know, everybody's got a small, a lot of our listeners have a small business and stuff that they're working on and everything else.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they're going through the same stresses. [SPEAKER_04]: And [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes, you might see a success of a black rifle call for your hearty iPhone line on paper, yes, it is. [SPEAKER_04]: But still, there's a lot of work to be done. [SPEAKER_04]: And again, with my childhood, mom was always there, anything that I needed, dad's two dads. [SPEAKER_04]: We're there, everything was pretty rad. [SPEAKER_04]: So two dads?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, septad and uh, uh, he's great, like, still one of my best friends this day and, uh, take him to shit and, and it's awesome and, uh, and then a real dad, um, passed away. [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, but, um, so I can't really point to anything in the past. [SPEAKER_04]: That's, that made an impact on me. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, where it was just like, all right, cool. [SPEAKER_04]: There was this or somewhere like suppressed emotion.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, it's more about failing at things. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like that's I think like if you want to ask what the trauma is was a kid Potentially it is me failing at in a game in a sporting event or something like that what was it about what was it about failing the bother you? [SPEAKER_05]: Because you've already articulated. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you've already articulated what causes you grief. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just curious if you can map it back. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I can.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I was, we were talking about this pre-show. [SPEAKER_04]: I was a pretty, it was a great fucking athlete. [SPEAKER_04]: So I won so much so early that like, you know, you get used to winning and then when you don't win, you feel like a failure. [SPEAKER_04]: Why? [SPEAKER_04]: Because [SPEAKER_04]: You should be able to beat the competition and everything else.

[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't until later in life that I figured out that there is talent and certain things that you're born with. [SPEAKER_04]: And there is nothing you can do about it. [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's no amount of work you can do to catch up to these guys. [SPEAKER_04]: And once I had that figured out, all right, great. [SPEAKER_04]: I was able to push that aside and then didn't bother me anymore.

[SPEAKER_04]: With this, everything that's going on like today in companies and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, don't have rich relatives or family members or any of those stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: I can't go to them and be like, hey, you know, help us out with this. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have any rich friends that are super rich where you're like, okay, cool. [SPEAKER_04]: Can you cut this check? [SPEAKER_04]: Were we here at all the time in Texas for this?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my uncle, man, he's an oil man. [SPEAKER_04]: He's really five million dollars. [SPEAKER_04]: And I was able to make the successful company. [SPEAKER_04]: And Aubrey Marcus, you know, his dad invented the flesh light. [SPEAKER_04]: Therefore, he got to do on it, which is awesome. [SPEAKER_04]: And there's so many people taking so much joy and flashlights. [SPEAKER_04]: So, therefore, I feel like it's on my shoulders and our shoulders to accomplish it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if you don't, [SPEAKER_04]: The box stops here. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what we expect out of our presidents and CEOs and all of that other stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: So, you missed a critical part of that. [SPEAKER_05]: Both in the hard AF example and in the range of fifteen example, it was not wanting to let somebody else down. [SPEAKER_05]: You've associated success with pleasing other people, which isn't normal to do. [SPEAKER_04]: But it wasn't financial.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_04]: It was just not let I just don't want to let the people down. [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't want to fucking not or a Lambo or any of that bullshit. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't want to let people down.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: So what if you to welcome the subtlety of that like the real just [SPEAKER_00]: like trauma doesn't have to be this big thing, you know, maybe it was, uh, and potentially was there a part of you that felt like you would let the team down if you didn't perform. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then how would you be met by your father if you didn't perform? [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't, like, they were always both.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're always loving and they didn't, as long as you tried your hardest, that's all. [SPEAKER_04]: So there was no pressure on that. [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't like a front-end lights where they're duct tape and, you know, flip-ball to my hands and a live arm, saying hold on the ball.

[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have that either, and by the way, I tell my kids the same thing, and it's probably from my dad where I was just like, hey, bud, we're gonna, you're gonna make some, you're gonna miss some, that's life. [SPEAKER_04]: And you're all good. [SPEAKER_04]: I love you. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's it. [SPEAKER_04]: You tried your hardest. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, if you didn't try your hardest, then I'd be pissed. [SPEAKER_04]: But if you try your hardest, great.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I ask. [SPEAKER_00]: So the end, I mean, we could just keep digging and digging and digging. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't want to turn this into that. [SPEAKER_00]: But basically, what happens when [SPEAKER_00]: when we're operating from, and here's the thing with trauma, and trauma can be such a subtle thing that happens over a period of time. [SPEAKER_00]: It could be like this subtle emotional disconnection that you feel in your dad's nervous system.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he says all the right things, but as children, we are so sensitive to feeling, like we feel what's happening in our parents' nervous system, that don't have to say anything. [SPEAKER_00]: only seven percent of communication is what? [SPEAKER_00]: The rest is energy and it's felt sense. [SPEAKER_00]: So as children, we're feeling their nervous system. [SPEAKER_00]: So even if Dad says, well done, like, you know, he says right things.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you slightly feel that his love is just a little bit different, if you do well, compared to when you don't do well, in that is a subtle form of emotional abandonment. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'll take away. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's also no shade on dad for that because from his perspective, he wants you to be successful for your own sake, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: He's going to be proud of you either way, but he wants you to be successful and there's going, like if you watch your kid try and fail that there is some level of disappointment, there should be that's normal. [SPEAKER_05]: There's another wrong with that, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: But you have to, as it is, when you become an adult, when you go from being a child into an adult, [SPEAKER_05]: The word trauma it sounds like you're complaining about shit, but really all it is is bad neural pathways. [SPEAKER_05]: Trigger response. [SPEAKER_05]: Trigger response. [SPEAKER_05]: It's all it really is, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like I see your feel some sort of thing and it's making me have a response that's kind of irrational, right, or out of pocket about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Support us and support the show by buying one of these guys. [SPEAKER_04]: No, you know what's funny now that you've said it, I can kind of track it back. [SPEAKER_04]: So let's take my stepdad for example. [SPEAKER_04]: I look up to him because he created his own business. [SPEAKER_04]: It was in the garage. [SPEAKER_04]: I got bigger moved to the, I'm sorry, basements.

[SPEAKER_04]: I got bigger moved into the garage, moved into a small office, where house is and all the other shit. [SPEAKER_04]: He never said it vocally to me, you know, how the stress he was going through. [SPEAKER_04]: However, it is looking back at it, now that you've said it, it's very similar to what I'm going through. [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe it's that where you're like, okay, cool, man. [SPEAKER_04]: And then you feel that stress where you're like, shit, I want to succeed as well.

[SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise you feel like it failure going forward.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then therefore, [SPEAKER_05]: you don't want your wife and kids to look at you like a failure if your business fails or you know you don't say so so you're unloading a lot of your but even though uh... you're doing this for their sake or unloading a lot of stuff on to them by doing that you don't get the same way your dad but suddenly they won't they might know it they won't you think that [SPEAKER_05]: Right, but they do obviously so it's not again.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a negative thing. [SPEAKER_05]: You're not doing anything to harm your kids That's not what the point is the point is is like now we're aware Yeah, so how do we how do you have and this is a good question for him? [SPEAKER_05]: How do you have that conversation with an eleven-year-old like hey?

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm under a lot like you know how you want to win it playing football I want to win it doing this and we're both feeling the same kind of stress right now [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think that's that's very true. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I did notice like there was one time where I woke up in the middle of the night it was For AM I was in eighth grade.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'll never forget it and I heard like a rustling around a garage now the robbers were out there and I go out there got the flashlight everything else and turn it on [SPEAKER_04]: It's my dad. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And he's packaging newspapers into plastic baggies. [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, whoa, whoa, what are you doing, dude? [SPEAKER_04]: And he goes, oh, well, I'm trying to pay for this other thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I throw newspapers into people's yards before they got like, that's, that's, you know. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I do, nobody knows. [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't want to tell you guys. [SPEAKER_05]: So he was stealing John from kids. [SPEAKER_05]: What is what you're saying? [SPEAKER_04]: No, because you had to throw it out the window and had to be souped by that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's some point the route's got bigger where you had to have a car. [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think we should bring it back with golf carts and neighborhoods, though. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, great. [SPEAKER_05]: Great. [SPEAKER_05]: Like we can bring that full circle and give those jobs back to your dad stole from me. [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, we have a lot of kids in the neighborhood that do that. [SPEAKER_04]: They're all from my fucking neighborhood. [SPEAKER_04]: And I hire them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with golf cards not there's they're not brown any business or anything like that Yeah, but yeah, you say that that's true and I remember thinking of myself like holy shit That's how hard businesses sorry that there [SPEAKER_00]: That was your role model and representation of work and hard work. [SPEAKER_00]: And what it means to be a hard worker. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a hard worker, then what would that mean about you?

[SPEAKER_00]: Then your dad would probably give you a approval, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was proud of him for doing it because shit and that's. [SPEAKER_05]: And you want your kids to be proud of you. [SPEAKER_05]: Correct. [SPEAKER_05]: So you're doing it. [SPEAKER_04]: So then you're up at four a.m. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, well, I stay up so for him. [SPEAKER_04]: So every night, I am up so for him. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, without fail.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think there's anything wrong with adopting work patterns that makes sense either. [SPEAKER_05]: The man dead what he did and was successful because of it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So in your brain and even like right now saying out loud intellectually, it doesn't, it's not like a weird thing to try to emulate that and because you want the same success, you want the same pride from your children to you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: However, [SPEAKER_05]: Recognize the and we all I do this shit to internalize stuff and then you think you think that you're keeping it to yourself and if you think that you're just as dumb as I am because you're not yeah that woman over there can tell what I'm stressed out. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and whether she wants to directly address it or not she's feeling it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's causing her stress as well.

[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's somatic systems are kind of tied together when you're in close proximity like that. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's like [SPEAKER_05]: How do you find good, healthy habits to talk to your kids and your wife about the stress that you're feeling or that they're feeling, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So you don't pass this down to the next generation again. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Because we didn't know any of this shit. [SPEAKER_05]: No, we wasn't talking about this.

[SPEAKER_04]: They were just no one talked about this. [SPEAKER_05]: Dude's what is Roland fucking newspapers on the morning while their kids were sleeping. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is where the subtle disconnections happen in masculinity. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a period of time.

[SPEAKER_00]: boys experiencing fathers who are emotionally disconnected and unable to give them the emotional support that they needed because they didn't have that or have that in themselves, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So a little boy [SPEAKER_00]: needs to and this is where like masculine like rights of passage and initiation comes in where basically what happens is a little boy goes and spends more time with the men with the uncles with the men learns what it means to be a man from men who are connected to themselves who also had healthy masculine role models and what happens is he walks through the world

[SPEAKER_00]: And because of that experience, he develops this internal support system in his nervous system where he knows that I can bring my stuff to the bros. [SPEAKER_00]: I can bring my stuff to the men. [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay for me to be feeling it's important for me to feel this. [SPEAKER_00]: He learns the skills and he learns these ways of being as a man. [SPEAKER_00]: And also energetically, he feels this support behind him.

[SPEAKER_00]: where it's, I'm not holding the weight of the world on my shoulders because I know that no matter what I move into in the world, energetically like I'm supported because there's a little boy I had that support.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now with trauma, it's, uh, and especially childhood trauma, there's a difference between working because you don't feel worthy and you need to prove your worth and [SPEAKER_00]: knowing that you're worthy and that even if you fail, it doesn't mean anything about you, but there's a lesson, right? [SPEAKER_00]: There's knowing that you're worthy and then being deserving, right? [SPEAKER_00]: So it's cultivating that sense of worthiness within yourself.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that doesn't mean that you stop doing the stuff, stop doing the things, stop pursuing. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you've got to be deserving of everything that you want, right? [SPEAKER_00]: But when it's coming from the place of I need to do this, so I can feel worthy, so I can feel good enough. [SPEAKER_00]: Then you'll be driven from the need to please other people because then when they're happy, then you're like, fuck. [SPEAKER_00]: I can breathe again. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's from what place it's coming from. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not saying like I work fucking hard. [SPEAKER_00]: I work big days and it's coming from a deeper place of of meaning and purpose and mission from an integrated place instead of I need to help and serve all of these people and fix them so they're okay so they they give me validation and make me feel good if that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I think a lot of it's relief when you get there. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Like we'll take range of things when I was in the theater that I got the sign contracts and then I went and sat in a theater where everybody I was like, oh, thank God. [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't able to watch it. [SPEAKER_04]: with complete satisfaction and everything else. [SPEAKER_04]: I watched it with relief.

[SPEAKER_04]: I feel the same way about this, the cells are company. [SPEAKER_04]: I think when we get to this to a place to sell it, everybody doubles, troubles or money, whatever it's going to be, whatever that final figure is going to be, I think it would be more relief rather than self gratification of holy shit. [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, there's definitely something to that. [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if that's right or wrong. [SPEAKER_05]: It's wrong. [SPEAKER_05]: It is.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you are going to experience some relief because the stress is gone. [SPEAKER_05]: Certainly, that's a systematic response. [SPEAKER_05]: But you can't be buried so much in the stress that you can't enjoy that moment. [SPEAKER_05]: Because we don't really regret the things we do in life or regret the things we don't do, typically, and experience.

[SPEAKER_05]: And when you're, uh, you know, eighty and four or five years and you're looking back on your life and You're thinking about that moment or the one where we sell the thing or whatever the fucking yeah, whatever it is it happens you want to like [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like you're wetting or something. [SPEAKER_05]: You want to look around, breathe it in, enjoy the moment of the first kid being born or whatever.

[SPEAKER_05]: You want to do it in the military called seal, stop, look, listen, smell. [SPEAKER_05]: You activate all your senses, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Because you want to really remember that moment, because it's something that's going to carry you through tougher times later on. [SPEAKER_05]: When shit sucks, you're like, you know what I did that though? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, those things matter down downstream.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, part of it is [SPEAKER_05]: Adlerian psychology, we've talked about it before about positive reframing. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, yeah, this is stressful, but there will be relief from this at some point, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And physiologically speaking, the anticipation of relief, this is true and emotional and physical pain wise. [SPEAKER_05]: We teach this in certain schools in the military.

[SPEAKER_05]: the anticipation of relief from cold or heat or from physical distress or from even emotional distress. [SPEAKER_05]: Just the anticipation of it makes your body produce hormones. [SPEAKER_05]: Like so, for example, if you bang your hand on something and you yell the word fuck out loud, your body will produce analgesics inside of you like Tylenol basically, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: Or if you're in some kind of pain like you're holding something and you're shaking and you think about, you know, when I let this go, [SPEAKER_05]: My muscles are going to feel a lot better. [SPEAKER_05]: Your body literally produces hormones that make you feel better. [SPEAKER_05]: Same thing happens emotionally. [SPEAKER_05]: One of the ways that you have to learn to deal with stress is to think about a time when that stress will not exist.

[SPEAKER_05]: Happy Gilmore's happy place. [SPEAKER_05]: I know that's a silly example, but that's literally what he's doing right there.

[SPEAKER_05]: go to your happy place so you can calm down you can push these negative emotions out of the way your cortisol fucking comes way way down and you're not feeling now you can sleep right and not only have you achieved sleep but now you're better prepared to do all this stressful shit tomorrow than you were because you didn't stay up until four o'clock stress the fuck out right and my cuz my cortisol levels are off the charts right where it's just I mean I'd have had problem for a lot of years and yeah

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So with our nervous system, if we're in vital flight for too long, eventually we reach the ceiling, right? [SPEAKER_00]: If we don't have a way to bring ourselves back down into regulation, we will eventually reach the ceiling and break through the ceiling and to shut down. [SPEAKER_00]: Shutdown, closure, overwhelm. [SPEAKER_05]: It's fight flatter frees. [SPEAKER_00]: That's frees. [SPEAKER_00]: That's frees.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just shut down and people, especially your family like that are relying and depending on you emotionally, not just what you can show up for and what you can bring and physically being present, it's emotionally present. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they're craving from you. [SPEAKER_00]: And when you're in that frees response because you're just so overwhelmed, [SPEAKER_00]: You'll turn to things and not just you, but everyone.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like when we're in this freeze response, we turn to things when it's too overwhelming to bring ourselves back down. [SPEAKER_00]: So this is where when we get into freeze or overwhelm, we need certain things to make us feel better to bring us back down. [SPEAKER_05]: Distraction and addiction. [SPEAKER_05]: It's those two things that you serve one another typically. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not about not having these big projects on your plate.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's how do you manage your nervous system in between? [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is, I teach this concept called masculine capacity, expanding your capacity as a man. [SPEAKER_00]: When most men have a little shot glass, that's their emotional capacity. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a little shot glass. [SPEAKER_00]: It fills very quickly. [SPEAKER_00]: And once that's full, it's like, don't fucking touch me, don't come near me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Reaction, shut down, closure, just go quiet, just retreat. [SPEAKER_00]: That's the boy, right? [SPEAKER_00]: When a man's operating from the boy, he has a very small emotional capacity. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, how we build that masculine capacity is exposure therapy. [SPEAKER_00]: So what you're doing, it's like, continue doing the big projects.

[SPEAKER_00]: But find ways to [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of continuing to climb the scale or fight or fight, find ways to bring yourself back down into regulation. [SPEAKER_00]: Connection, brotherhood, fun, play, breath work. [SPEAKER_05]: Take a goddamn big hit. [SPEAKER_00]: Better go. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but we can't. [SPEAKER_04]: We're on daily. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like that's what we can say because we can film from other places, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: We could, but like, you know, that's another thing. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what the audience is saying. [SPEAKER_05]: You're equivocating. [SPEAKER_05]: I personally feel responsible. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we are responsible to them and that's something that we take seriously so we can be responsible from some place where we can also reset.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you want to be, you go too long without resetting your somatic system and what you're giving people is a fifty to sixty percent product instead of a ninety to a hundred percent product. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what happens. [SPEAKER_05]: So you're still, you think we as men do this. [SPEAKER_05]: We're worse than women and it's not even fucking close. [SPEAKER_05]: We think that just showing up, that's what means something.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's like showing up a hundred percent is what means something. [SPEAKER_05]: And if you've got to take a little time off to do that, then that's what you do. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I feel like I'm a hundred every pretty much every day. [SPEAKER_04]: There's only a couple of shows where I look back and I'm like, yeah, and I'll just tell Bob afterwards, it was like, man, I was shit that show. [SPEAKER_04]: But for the most part, I can turn it all in and off.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the reason why is we don't know who's coming in every day. [SPEAKER_04]: Guess why is there anything else, like sitting down with you and having this conversation, have a look at the clock once. [SPEAKER_04]: Some of these podcasts, like your, it's like detention when you're like, are I cool? [SPEAKER_04]: Who's this guy? [SPEAKER_04]: And what the fuck are they talking about and everything else?

[SPEAKER_04]: This is an easy one today, because we're just talking about real life. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, to your point, Dan, I agree with you, a hundred percent, men are way worse than when it comes to this, like shit. [SPEAKER_04]: There are emotions at first. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Albert, whereas ours are not, and they're inward here. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's from, well, that's from Hulk Hogan. [SPEAKER_04]: God damn it. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm still grieving. [SPEAKER_04]: So grieving, the end word.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Kid Rock gave him a twenty-one, and word salute there. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm getting out of there. [SPEAKER_04]: To the ball with the ball music, too. [SPEAKER_04]: It was weird. [SPEAKER_00]: Sure did. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but he was able to mix the Anword in twenty one times and that was nice. [SPEAKER_04]: I can't wait to really touch by that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So it was like, it was wife.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit, a little bit. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, obviously still grieving. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: After party was at Hogan's Hangout, by the way, which Dan and I've been to. [SPEAKER_04]: It's still. [SPEAKER_04]: I actually like to grace a lot of the place. [SPEAKER_05]: Did he DJ? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Of course. [SPEAKER_04]: Nick?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: But what are some recommendations for let's say small business owners will start there I'll start with the audience because there's a bunch of posts on drinking bros if you don't know this or not [SPEAKER_04]: There's eight hundred subgroups, I think, on drinking bros on Facebook, you can always hit somebody up or in the DMs or everything else.

[SPEAKER_05]: And if it's like super serious, there's a DB vigilant guard and there's like mental health professionals and shit in there. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: And so hit them up. [SPEAKER_04]: So let's start with businesses, because I hear this all. [SPEAKER_05]: As a matter of fact, one of my, my commander will kind of, the one we had to call with Bricky.

[SPEAKER_05]: with his brother was in, I don't know which one of the groups it was, but somebody was having some kind of crisis, and he got on the phone with him for three hours the other night. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, dude. [SPEAKER_05]: Ben, Ben, can't do that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's shit like that happens all the time. [SPEAKER_04]: It does. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'll start with the first one. [SPEAKER_04]: Couple, couple guys in the group, same thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Small business owners and they're struggling. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's, the tear thing is bullshit, by the way. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not because of that.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's simply, [SPEAKER_04]: what is happening in the world and you know you might not have enough money to start up and do all the shit and everything else and you don't want to let your family down because a lot of people are tired of working for the man and they want to create their own companies and then they do it and then they realize how hard it is with shared vice for them

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, from, you know, I've created somewhat of a level of success in my field, in my space, you know, we've generated a few million, like, we've done it right. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, apart from besides from the business, it's coming back to what you shared before. [SPEAKER_00]: If your [SPEAKER_00]: you need ways to tend to your nervous system and to regulate your nervous system in business, massively.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you don't, if you don't have ways to suit your nervous system, to regulate yourself, to deal with the stress of businesses, it's gonna be, it's a constant initiation. [SPEAKER_00]: That's how I see it, of responsibility. [SPEAKER_00]: And as you grow, so does the responsibility. [SPEAKER_00]: And as the responsibility grows, you need to be supporting your nervous system in that growth of the business.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not doing that, then you're adding on all of this responsibility on this like limited nervous system or this limited capacity to deal with all of this new responsibility. [SPEAKER_00]: What I've noticed, the more that I've grown, and we work with hundreds of men all over the world, the more I've grown, the more I actually have to let go of how much I do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because the more I prioritize me taking care of myself, and me being happy for field, having fun with life. [SPEAKER_00]: That will be a direct reflection into my business. [SPEAKER_00]: How I lead my team, how I shout for my people, how my clients feel when I jump on a call with them. [SPEAKER_00]: They feel that. [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Compared to if I was running myself into the ground and destroying myself in the process of just trying to make some money, I get on a call with someone and they can feel that they don't feel safe with me. [SPEAKER_00]: And in business, it's relational. [SPEAKER_00]: You're in relationship with people. [SPEAKER_00]: And when you can feel someone is in grounded in themselves, because then nervous systems disregulated, there's this sense of, there's just something about him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't trust. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And they're not, I mean, it's, I think in male female terms, thinking about in terms of the difference between a confident man and a man who's not confident talking to a woman. [SPEAKER_05]: Regardless of what the words that actually come out of their mouth, the results are widely disparate. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: A confident moron is going to have quite a bit more success than a brilliant person with no confidence. [SPEAKER_05]: all things being equal. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And especially when you're in close proximity people, people can feel it. [SPEAKER_05]: Just like your kids can, but whether they know what are not, right, they're picking up on that shit, not either percent of all communications is not verbal.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Another one here from the audience here is divorce. [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of divorce, eighty percent of our audience is military first responders, Dan, [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like everybody in the military has at least one divorce. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a lot of those marriages were to get out of the barracks to be honest with you. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which is not a reason. [SPEAKER_05]: You don't get married to improve your housing situation. [SPEAKER_04]: Probably.

[SPEAKER_04]: But now they got kids. [SPEAKER_04]: They're fighting for custody of kids and all this other stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: And what do you tell people going through a divorce, men? [SPEAKER_04]: What they should do? [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck. [SPEAKER_00]: As there's a lot, I work with so many men who are going through this period of transition. [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I'm asking. [SPEAKER_00]: And Brotherhood, like, but with the right men, with men who are able to support him, hold him.

[SPEAKER_00]: while he greeps and also be the space to inspire him and challenge him to be better as well because through that process it a divorce is a it's a breakup it's a separation it's a ending of a relationship and he needs to be held in that grief it's a grieving period and if he's not held in that in the right way that's going to it becomes very very overwhelming for for men [SPEAKER_05]: We used to do this ritualistically.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like in Hebrew culture back in the day, they would literally put like burlap sack cloth on themselves and rubbed themselves in ashes as a form of acknowledging their grief. [SPEAKER_05]: During the [SPEAKER_05]: Like middle English toward to a Victorian period. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry not even middle it was before that was from the from the middle Roman period. [SPEAKER_05]: Excuse me until the Victorian period.

[SPEAKER_05]: Typically speaking if your significant other died right your husband or wife died, then there was a two week formalized grieving period where you would wear black and not [SPEAKER_05]: There's no relationship stuff going on. [SPEAKER_05]: You just kind of hang out and be sad. [SPEAKER_05]: It was formalized for that reason. [SPEAKER_05]: Now we've got to go to work. [SPEAKER_05]: We have to get to our cubicle to produce widgets now, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: In the same way that we've removed all the rights of passage for men, we've also removed the opportunities that would just naturally occuring to deal with this stuff and now it's not getting dealt with. [SPEAKER_00]: We're in a society today that [SPEAKER_00]: is disconnected from grief and that I've heard of tribes where they were an unband. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like we know that this person's going through a season.

[SPEAKER_00]: But typically, if he's gone through a breakup and there's a grieving period, if he isn't held in the right way and he doesn't grieve that, then he's not going to learn the lessons and the gifts that he was supposed to learn through that relationship breakdown because there's a reason why it didn't work as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: And typically, if he doesn't have that safe space to be held in that period of time, [SPEAKER_00]: He will just distract himself with work or habits that don't serve him and then he'll just get into another relationship and it'll be the next divorce. [SPEAKER_00]: Next thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's pretty common too.

[SPEAKER_04]: We see people go through multiple divorces because they race in another relationship and then [SPEAKER_04]: That was the wrong relationship, and then I get out of that relationship, and then that's miserable as well. [SPEAKER_04]: On the female side, because I'm embodied in that. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, so we're not either. [SPEAKER_04]: We're ninety four percent male and six percent. [SPEAKER_05]: Which one's six percent? [SPEAKER_05]: You're not like your personal body?

[SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm eighteen percent gay dude. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's not male or female. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, it is what it is. [SPEAKER_04]: But no, as far as our audience is concerned, we're actually listening. [SPEAKER_04]: So we get we six percent female in that. [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, they've got their own issues too of like, I'm driving, driving voting. [SPEAKER_02]: God. [SPEAKER_04]: So that's their lifting things playing basketball high level.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's you know without getting killed those throwing at them. [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of that going on. [SPEAKER_04]: But the common thing that I hear or I read in the the message boards here amongst women is [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a state home mom. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not as respected as much as I think I should be from my husband because this is a fucking hard job. [SPEAKER_04]: And it is.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know it for a fact, you know, going through a snow day or whatever else, like shit. [SPEAKER_04]: Fourth of July, for example, for me. [SPEAKER_04]: We were rained out here. [SPEAKER_04]: There's the first time we didn't get to have fireworks or any of that other stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: And I got to see what it was like being rained out and you're with the kids screaming all day and they can't go outside.

[SPEAKER_04]: They can't do anything and it's pouring down rain or a little shits and it added a different I've always respected my wife for what she does. [SPEAKER_04]: But like, it added a whole different respect after that, where I was like, holy shit. [SPEAKER_05]: But even just an average day. [SPEAKER_04]: I know. [SPEAKER_05]: So for a man, I want to hang out with a couple of my buddies and go into the woods and chop fucking firewood.

[SPEAKER_05]: And at the end of the day, I feel pretty goddamn good about myself. [SPEAKER_05]: Sure. [SPEAKER_05]: Women enjoy the social interaction with their girlfriends. [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: And if you're around a six year old and a fucking three year old,

[SPEAKER_04]: only for like two-week straight as a woman that's gonna feel the same way as a man if you were just isolated at home by yourself and you're gonna lose your fucking mind it's so like last night my wife recorded her show she's gonna popular crime show called crime corner right after that there was a book club in the neighborhood and she said hey do you mind or whatever and I was like no take your say this is all women and I'm like take your time to have some wine have some fun and get set up yes just

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Think of those periods and get shit figured out, right? [SPEAKER_04]: And I could tell she needed it, but it was only because of what I saw. [SPEAKER_04]: And when I went through with her over that weekend where I was like, my God, it was the weekend that floods down here and it just rained relentlessly everywhere. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you couldn't go out anywhere.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And so what do you tell [SPEAKER_04]: What do you tell men in regards to how to deal with their wives who, you know, you come home, you feel like you've slaved all day. [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, like, did I've worked my ass off of him as fucking calls trying to make shit happen? [SPEAKER_04]: And I've got my own stress and then I come back. [SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, cool dude, you don't have anywhere near the fucking stress that I had today.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Boys want it easy. [SPEAKER_00]: Boys want things to be easy. [SPEAKER_00]: He wants to come home and for the home to be his, he's, he's, he's her men.

[SPEAKER_00]: adult boys okay yeah adult boys want things to be easy they want their their woman to be easy so he doesn't have to deal with the emotional chaos and and deal with what comes up within him in her full expression of her feminine now a man recognises that a woman will multiply what he gives her she will give back multiple what he provides so

[SPEAKER_00]: For example, by you providing you understanding, it's like, I honor how much you're actually doing and by you giving back to her and giving that space for how you do what you need to do. [SPEAKER_00]: You're providing her that nourishment and I'm sure that that will be multiplied in other ways. [SPEAKER_00]: So the man lives in reverence and honor to his woman when he comes home. [SPEAKER_00]: and he finds ways to provide for her in ways that he will receive back in other ways.

[SPEAKER_00]: So for example, by you providing that, giving that back to her, that space for her to do her thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I can guarantee that she probably came back feeling better about herself. [SPEAKER_00]: and then your relationship was better after that. [SPEAKER_00]: That was probably deeper connection, maybe intimacy after she came home after that. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the man really finds ways, how can I give back instead of how can I use this woman as a way to get my needs met?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I've had a big day sort of thing. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, the boy will very much the adult boy that adult child will just want it to be easy. [SPEAKER_00]: So I would say for a man that that [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like how much can you, how much can you give without giving away yourself in the process? [SPEAKER_00]: Because she will multiply whatever you give her.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Another question we get all the time, and Dan, you can chime in here as well, is with our audience being eighty percent military and first responder. [SPEAKER_04]: And the first responder sees some shit to him. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, especially those EMTs and those paramedics and all that shit, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's [SPEAKER_04]: real life in the moment shits every fucking day over and over and over again.

[SPEAKER_04]: I saw a horrific accident last night and you know, I got to show up and do their job and keep everybody calm in all their other shits. [SPEAKER_04]: How do you or what's what's what do you recommend to kids rid of the trauma? [SPEAKER_04]: for what they saw or what they're currently seeing on a daily basis. [SPEAKER_04]: Because that to me is impossible to shut off. [SPEAKER_04]: My other dad who was divorced that I was talking about, he was dating a surgeon.

[SPEAKER_04]: She was one of the top surgeons there was and like, [SPEAKER_04]: every single person that came in it was the most horrific injury and that she was dependent upon doing this, right? [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, how does this not affect your life on a daily basis? [SPEAKER_04]: And she was like, oh, it fucking does. [SPEAKER_04]: And I buried it down deep inside. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's gonna come out at some point. [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know when and all of that shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: So what do you recommend to veterans who are overseas and combat, who've seen horrific shit or EMTs or paramedics or cops or firefighters who've seen horrific shit? [SPEAKER_04]: What do you recommend for them to keep them going and keep their job and their livelihood going? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, great question. [SPEAKER_00]: You'll probably have a better answer than me on this, but I don't really specialize in big tea trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: In that sense, it's more the subtle trauma, the small tea trauma that happens over time through childhood, through, through, it's called developmental trauma that we accumulate through childhood and the lack of initiation and right to passage from boy to man.

[SPEAKER_00]: But my first [SPEAKER_00]: like feeling on that is community is a place for them to share it where they don't have to hold it a place for them to be seen and witnessed in their grief and in their pain of what they've seen and for that to be witnessed by loving eyes and supported in a way that's going to help them progress beyond it where they're not just

[SPEAKER_04]: looping and ironically you just described drinking bros and why this group was started in the podcast and everything else by Jared Taylor like I'm not kidding word for word yes so so people can get together and talk about shit yeah and not blow the fucking brains out so yeah yeah but for Dan let's say Dan for example he's been one of my best friends of business partners for years

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you've ever talked about any of the shit that affected you or bothered you over the years and anything else that I have an ass. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I wouldn't talk to you about it. [SPEAKER_05]: Who would you talk to somebody who has experienced it as well? [SPEAKER_05]: Interesting, because I wouldn't make any sense. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it wouldn't for you.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's an intellectual curiosity that as far as me managing it for myself, it doesn't, that's not the avenue for that, you know? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So who do you go to? [SPEAKER_04]: Because I think this will genuinely help our listeners because you're right. [SPEAKER_04]: I will never know what the fuck you guys went through. [SPEAKER_04]: And neither will everybody else.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mostly, I mean, like, you know, people that I deployed with, we still talk about it, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And you don't know, it's interesting because you don't always talk specifically about the thing. [SPEAKER_05]: All the dudes that are in that circle know what happened, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So the fact that we're [SPEAKER_05]: And it'll, from time to time, it'll kind of come up. [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_05]: So you don't like, certainly, that you could be intentional about. [SPEAKER_05]: I think within yourself, you should be intentional about it. [SPEAKER_05]: Part of it is learning how to regulate and positively reframe things, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So you see this horrible thing. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, well, think about it this way. [SPEAKER_05]: There was a cost and a return on cost, right, or an ROI, return on investment.

[SPEAKER_05]: And pretty much everything you do in life, whether it's business or thinking of this way, you're working out of the gym, fucking sucks. [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes it's good. [SPEAKER_05]: You're in orphans are going, sometimes it's fucking sucks.

[SPEAKER_05]: but you're doing it for a reason and you you contextualize the pain or suffering or irritation that you're going through with the intended result right so you have to you be able to break it down intellectually like this even though it's quite it's it's a very emotional response that you're having

[SPEAKER_05]: because your brain, even though you think emotions are somehow not intellectual they are because they're still programmed by the same chemistry, biological chemistry that everything else is in your life, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So as a result, you can fix this stuff, right? [SPEAKER_05]: You can teach your body how to deal with it. [SPEAKER_05]: So for an EMT or a soldier, however it is, [SPEAKER_05]: I had to see this fucked up shit, but as a result, this good thing happened.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's what makes bad mission, right? [SPEAKER_05]: The way that we get sent on fools errands all the time is military people. [SPEAKER_05]: So damaging. [SPEAKER_05]: That's the reason that it's so fucked up, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Because it is honor at the end of the day that repairs that wound for us. [SPEAKER_05]: It is coming home and saying, having people say you did a good job, that matters.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: For EMTs, firefighters stuff like that, they still have that. [SPEAKER_05]: Cops, it's a little bit different. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know this for a fact, but I would guess that the suicide rate amongst police is probably higher than those other two. [SPEAKER_05]: Even though those other two probably see more fucked up shit. [SPEAKER_05]: I bet firefighters in EMTs, he way more fucked up shit than the average cop does in their career.

[SPEAKER_05]: But I would assume that cops because of the dislike of them generally. [SPEAKER_05]: Because nobody just likes firefighters at EMTs. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think there's probably something to that. [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, that's, that's why it's a problem. [SPEAKER_05]: And now you've diagnosed a problem, you can deal with it. [SPEAKER_04]: And I hate it, by the way, I fucking hate it, dude.

[SPEAKER_04]: Whenever I see a cop, I'll make my kids go up and say, hey, thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And not, thank you for your service. [SPEAKER_04]: Just, hey, thank you for keeping us safe and being here. [SPEAKER_04]: Wherever we're at, because you're right, it is such a fucking hated job for whatever reason. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't get it. [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and that's how you manage it yourself.

[SPEAKER_05]: You deal, you're coming back from war and it sucked, but you have to, again, there's an opportunity to reframe. [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't do this for some fucking politician. [SPEAKER_05]: I did it to protect the men next to me and to protect my family. [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: That's why I went in and I feel like I accomplished that by doing what I did.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that's the way you reframe it internally, as far as... as far as... [SPEAKER_05]: the external reframing, which is also important. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it's talking to people with shared experience. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what everybody does. [SPEAKER_05]: Every support group on earth is a room full of people, probably including the person running the goddamn meeting who have gone through the same thing and there's a reason for that. [SPEAKER_05]: We seek these.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's a phrase, misery loves company and it can be taken negatively, but it can also be taken positively. [SPEAKER_05]: people that are going through stuff together deal with it quite a bit better than people who are going through it alone because we are social creatures. [SPEAKER_05]: We're designed to be that way. [SPEAKER_05]: And the weight of all of the shame, guilt, trauma, whatever the fuck.

[SPEAKER_05]: you there's a mathematical formula for this actually but you and I individually can I like you can lift x amount of weight and I can lift y amount of weight but together we can lift an exponential amount of weight it's not x plus y right we can live z which is quite a bit more than x the sum of x and y and I can look more than you not one prayer yeah not one not in any lifetime but

[SPEAKER_05]: The sum of the amount of weight that we can literally physically lift together is not the sum of our individual capabilities. [SPEAKER_05]: It's the sum of our collective capabilities. [SPEAKER_05]: And that is true, our psychologically as well. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's interesting you say that because, you know, looking back at our relationship and some of my friends, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: It's whatever that shared experience is, and it was an actor friend of mine who was in town last week, which was like, hey man, can we grab dinner real quick or grab a drink? [SPEAKER_04]: I want to ask you about this, because you went through it and you're the only one who has this answer and I was like, [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, of course, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll pop out. [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, you're right. [SPEAKER_04]: So that makes total sense. [SPEAKER_04]: And I understand this.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for being here today, by the way. [SPEAKER_04]: This is awesome. [SPEAKER_04]: If you're at home, look, we try to do a series show once a month, like, because there is a lot of people going through some shit. [SPEAKER_04]: And we see it on the message boards. [SPEAKER_04]: We see our Facebook and everything else. [SPEAKER_04]: We see it on the app on Drinking Brods app, where it's just like how you do it. [SPEAKER_04]: I need help. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm struggling.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what they did in the life. [SPEAKER_04]: They did it in the life. [SPEAKER_04]: But here's the thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Every member got to choose their own slice of the human. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't go a dude's ass for it. [SPEAKER_04]: I would go with their fucking cab. [SPEAKER_05]: I would go with the brain probably. [SPEAKER_05]: Really? [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's a horrible idea. [SPEAKER_05]: That would fuck you up big time.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean eating another animal's neurons, especially if you're same DNA, you would be in a basket. [SPEAKER_04]: Really? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I go, uh, just the back of a cab. [SPEAKER_04]: We were like, all right, cool man. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really care. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's gay. [SPEAKER_05]: Do you remember that? [SPEAKER_05]: It's like season five of the office, I think.

[SPEAKER_05]: The gay character was named Oscar. [SPEAKER_05]: Oscar. [SPEAKER_05]: He was asking about the new office. [SPEAKER_05]: All the warehouse dudes quit, so they're trying to hire new warehouse guys. [SPEAKER_05]: So I guess it would have been season six. [SPEAKER_05]: And he's trying to hire new warehouse guys. [SPEAKER_05]: He goes, hey, who's the toughest gay dude in Scranton? [SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna hire him to work in the fucking warehouse, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: And he went on a rant about how some dude got obsessed about his calves. [SPEAKER_05]: Interesting gay. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not obsessed with the cap. [SPEAKER_04]: You are. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's a dead guy. [SPEAKER_04]: He's fucking dead. [SPEAKER_04]: That's the body part I'm choosing. [SPEAKER_04]: Like it just seems the non gay is part of a body. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well you made a mistake.

[SPEAKER_04]: I sure didn't know because people have feet fetishes, cock balls, taints, asses, lips, couldn't do that. [SPEAKER_04]: Why not ribs? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a rib would be right smoke one hundred percent. [SPEAKER_04]: I smoke a rib. [SPEAKER_04]: I smoke a fucking baby back rib for sure. [SPEAKER_00]: I can be really tough. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: You think the ribs? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you had to get the smoke. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, slow and slow.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: This is Texas. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm from the start. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't talk about barbecue in Australia. [SPEAKER_05]: No, you don't barbecue in Australia. [SPEAKER_05]: We barbecue. [SPEAKER_04]: You drink fosters and you fuck kangaroos over there. [SPEAKER_04]: That's all you do. [SPEAKER_04]: Apparently. [SPEAKER_04]: Apparently it's all you fucking do. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, how do you get past the tail?

[SPEAKER_05]: Is the question now? [SPEAKER_05]: Where's the whole weight? [SPEAKER_05]: Where's a kangaroo pussy at? [SPEAKER_05]: On the body. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know the answer to this. [SPEAKER_05]: It's got to be running at the answer. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so how do they fuck? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not in the middle of her fucking bag. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm so fast. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, there it is. [SPEAKER_00]: The tails are like the tails are.

[SPEAKER_00]: The fucking huge. [SPEAKER_00]: They're the rest. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're the rest on that they stand on them. [SPEAKER_05]: What is that? [SPEAKER_05]: Is that her piece on a fuck? [SPEAKER_05]: What is that? [SPEAKER_06]: Now there's a kangaroo nips inside of the pouch. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even see any of this today. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's inside the pouch. [SPEAKER_02]: Damn it. [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't even sense it today. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a little baby kangaroo.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's cute. [SPEAKER_04]: That's life. [SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: I hate you. [SPEAKER_04]: I like it's Friday, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go home with my kids. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna call you fucking tonight. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna be holding a fucking gun to my head, saying I can't believe I just watched this. [SPEAKER_06]: Also apparently kangaroos have three vaginas. [SPEAKER_06]: Really so boy dealer's choice. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's my turn on the goodhold.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my turn on the goodhold now's the point the show we get to the drinking bro the week Which is someone who inspires you helps to become a person you are today, which is like to give the drinking bro the week to Someone who's inspired me yep [SPEAKER_04]: Like getting in the therapy is for a man, highly unusual. [SPEAKER_04]: Who inspired you to get into this feed? [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I would say one of my bro's Todd.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just been a brother that's been there for me through some of the deepest, deepest shit. [SPEAKER_00]: the the safe space that he's held for me as a brother has healed parts within me that [SPEAKER_00]: just without him, I could never have met the depth of myself in some of the darkest nights that I've been through. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's held me through that. [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, shout out to Todd, because he's one of my closest brothers.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, he's one of my business partners as well now, and we get to share this work with other men.

[SPEAKER_00]: We actually created a... [SPEAKER_00]: our retreat so we run two retreats a year in Australia and potentially bringing it over here next year and that retreat is called the inspired brotherhood and it's actually based on the brotherhood that we've cultivated with each other and that sense of safety and what that's done for both of us in our lives and yeah man so I wouldn't be

[SPEAKER_00]: probably, yeah, or even doing this work if it wasn't for him, you know, he's been a huge support. [SPEAKER_04]: I had these retreats. [SPEAKER_04]: Do you have to bring your own cheats and stuff? [SPEAKER_04]: What? [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just asking. [SPEAKER_04]: No, we cut off. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we cut off. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we cut off. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we cut off. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, great. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't guarantee that'll be straight.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, the people are the sheets. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, both. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, either way. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, either way. [SPEAKER_00]: And then if, uh, tell everybody where they can find on social media. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I run more as be white Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. [SPEAKER_00]: I put out heaps of free value content for people to just be educated through my content alone.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, find me on Instagram, send me a DM message, you need support. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, thank you for being here. [SPEAKER_04]: We got a listener in the audience today. [SPEAKER_04]: If you don't mind swapping out with him. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we'll go come on out and give out his drinking bro the week. [SPEAKER_04]: He's wearing a whole commune as sure. [SPEAKER_04]: Play the music to alcohol. [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_04]: You at home can submit on drinking rose dot com or the app. [SPEAKER_04]: The app is available. [SPEAKER_04]: on iPhones, androids, everything. [SPEAKER_04]: So you're going to go. [SPEAKER_04]: It's free. [SPEAKER_04]: There's a wall old school like a two thousand ten Facebook. [SPEAKER_04]: We do not delete anything and there is no admin to pass it. [SPEAKER_04]: You can just post and post and post and post. [SPEAKER_04]: Just keep it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure it's not on a rage there. [SPEAKER_04]: What's up, little hoax, sir? [SPEAKER_04]: How you doing? [SPEAKER_07]: Oh man, you're still grieving too. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, man. [SPEAKER_07]: It's been fucking hard. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what to do about it, really. [SPEAKER_07]: I thank God for this episode though. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe that'll help us. [SPEAKER_04]: What's your name? [SPEAKER_07]: Nate Harperson.

[SPEAKER_07]: Nate. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: How are you dealing with the grief of Hogan, dude? [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, if throughout childhood, oh, you're younger than me, right? [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm almost, I'm almost fifty, so. [SPEAKER_07]: Whoa. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, closing time. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm, that was your time, dude. [SPEAKER_07]: That is your heart rate. [SPEAKER_07]: Right in the eighties.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Did you get experience in it? [SPEAKER_05]: Hogan not so much, you know, when I the Hogan I saw was like, and W O Hogan. [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, I love that Hogan. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was great. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he pivoted nicely. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was a good heal. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: He was still called W W E. W W W W F. We're wild life entertainment. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: fight in the iron sheek they uh... they went to a copy right issue that's a true story with the world while i fed up yet fed up with it could not keep the f so they've changed which is we are because it existed for decades before that and then all of a sudden they got it no but he fucking cared until uh... everything got real litigious in the eighties and then after that everybody was swimming for everything and it was like holy shit yeah uh... but uh... what are you doing here

[SPEAKER_04]: Hang in out, man. [SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of nice studio. [SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations on everything. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, if it weren't for you guys, we would not have this. [SPEAKER_07]: I went through the back catalog and, wow, how far are you guys? [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, this is a dedication right here. [SPEAKER_07]: Totally. [SPEAKER_07]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, thank you for real.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody who congratulations, I'm literally like, thank you this, it's it. [SPEAKER_04]: If we don't have listeners and people buy the products and do the reviews and iTunes and Spotify and all this stuff, [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have any of this shit. [SPEAKER_04]: So thank you very much. [SPEAKER_04]: That's why we keep it open. [SPEAKER_04]: Free booze all day. [SPEAKER_04]: You can, you know, eat first form and fucking party and do whatever you want.

[SPEAKER_07]: Besides Bob put up the kangaroo there at the end. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, there was great show. [SPEAKER_04]: We keep a monitor in the back with some couches for you guys. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: You had to see us too, right? [SPEAKER_07]: No. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that was terrible. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna need another heart of AF. [SPEAKER_05]: I looked at it by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: They do.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's very common for marsupial animals to have three separate holes. [SPEAKER_05]: No shit. [SPEAKER_05]: Two of them are for sperm transmission, like to suck up the sperm and a third one opens up sometimes when they have the baby. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: So they can give birth at multiple periods throughout their life. [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know that and now I don't want any marsupial fucking near me. [SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't know either.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how what they are. [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: Wombats and shit down. [SPEAKER_05]: What are the other ones? [SPEAKER_04]: I Bob, what are you looking for now? [SPEAKER_04]: Possums. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want those near me. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't want to see any of this. [SPEAKER_04]: That's terrible. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to see any of this. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Do you want to give a drink about the week, too?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there's so many people that's part of my life. [SPEAKER_07]: We work for you guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, there's so many I can't. [SPEAKER_07]: And they already know who they are. [SPEAKER_07]: But what's that guy? [SPEAKER_04]: Tell them. [SPEAKER_07]: Tell them. [SPEAKER_07]: What was that addicted to love? [SPEAKER_07]: What was that song? [SPEAKER_07]: Robert? [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, him. [SPEAKER_07]: Putting those girls on the black dress.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is Robert Plant? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to give it to him. [SPEAKER_05]: No, Robert Plant's Led Zeppelin. [SPEAKER_07]: No, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's Jimmy. [SPEAKER_05]: Johnny Page and Robert Plant. [SPEAKER_05]: Who's saying addicted to love? [SPEAKER_05]: Robert Palmer. [SPEAKER_05]: Robert Palmer. [SPEAKER_07]: Robert Palmer, let's give it to him because those girls on the black dress will get you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there you go. [SPEAKER_07]: That'll get you through your teen years right there. [SPEAKER_07]: It's sure will. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll give it to him. [SPEAKER_07]: It's sure will. [SPEAKER_07]: Anybody else? [SPEAKER_07]: Shoot, I mean, family's always awesome, you know. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the turning end of this show. [SPEAKER_07]: Great question. [SPEAKER_07]: I was just cruising around on old school, just like you, man. [SPEAKER_07]: AM radio, original podcast.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: The old sports talk radio shows. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: And then grew up on those. [SPEAKER_07]: This thing came out called podcast. [SPEAKER_07]: Who would blow up like this? [SPEAKER_07]: I know. [SPEAKER_07]: It was crazy. [SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, dude, this is an AM radio show. [SPEAKER_07]: I can listen to it anytime, the same show over and over. [SPEAKER_07]: And, uh, great job.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just had this conversation maybe three days ago. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And, uh, ironically, my agent manager who rep me in, twenty, fourteen, fifteen, um, they thought it was a fucking, literally. [SPEAKER_04]: It was like, you were fucking more on to go into podcasts. [SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean, you're sitting a garage all day and, uh, and talk to people?

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and then they called back five years later and they were like, we want to book ads for you. [SPEAKER_04]: We're super excited. [SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, fuck off. [SPEAKER_04]: Right, right. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, nobody believes in this. [SPEAKER_04]: You know one believe in this. [SPEAKER_04]: You imagine Paul Harvey being around right now. [SPEAKER_04]: Doing this man, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because because the other part too is hours turned out fired and they're asking um, what he's going to do and here here's what I've been telling people. [SPEAKER_04]: So look guys, we're [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like we're becoming the real news at this point because Dan and I keep predicting everything. [SPEAKER_04]: All these guys are going to be out with these huge fucking contracts.

[SPEAKER_04]: But the interesting part about Howard Stern is this, serious XM is dishing out massive podcast deals. [SPEAKER_04]: They just gave a hundred million to smartlas. [SPEAKER_04]: So, clearly, it was just Howard Stern, like, fuck off. [SPEAKER_04]: Holy smokes. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: So, um, they're, because they're serious action is big in the podcast space. [SPEAKER_04]: So, I'm not sure what's gonna happen there.

[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you know, you also can't tell your audience to go fuck themselves, uh, if they voted for Trump. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the wolf left people that he's corded with his attitude. [SPEAKER_05]: Don't really listen to that kind of shit. [SPEAKER_05]: No, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: So what the fuck? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the other part, too, is living in New York, all those years, off and on.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, if you tally it up, it was probably three total, just off and on. [SPEAKER_04]: And he was never like that. [SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of the guys that listen to him were like, um, manual labor.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it was normal dudes that were you were just like okay cool Those more than likely or Trump supporters and then you alienated your original fanbase just by telling them to fuck off because you're so rich and elitist and and everything else so I'm not sure what he's gonna do he's also seventy-one and there's no shame in retiring at this point.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so there's no shame in retiring at this point doesn't have any kids got a young life has like thirty-seven cats [SPEAKER_04]: True story. [SPEAKER_07]: Thirty seven cats. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: He's got a problem. [SPEAKER_04]: Friend of mine went to his house for a party and she was just like, yo dude. [SPEAKER_04]: There is thirty seven fucking cats in this house. [SPEAKER_07]: We had a podcast for a minute called my cat doesn't care.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: I think we did like ten or eleven. [SPEAKER_07]: It was terrible. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: They look. [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot out there. [SPEAKER_04]: I think only one percent have more than seven thousand downloads. [SPEAKER_04]: really. [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. [SPEAKER_07]: That's impressive. [SPEAKER_07]: Nine hundred and like eighty thousand whatever it is.

[SPEAKER_07]: The business talking, I forget the gentleman's name, but that's exactly what we do. [SPEAKER_07]: We talk to people all the time about business solutions and helping people support. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like you're talking about. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: May it wouldn't be cool at in. [SPEAKER_07]: We thought about doing this podcast deal where we have come on because we help people with business solutions all the time.

[SPEAKER_07]: Sure. [SPEAKER_07]: Take care of their HR payroll and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: We can really not just the podcast, but our actual products that we do. [SPEAKER_07]: It's been really, really cool. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: What did you get there? [SPEAKER_05]: This is a dress to Ross, Papa, Patterson. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what's in it. [SPEAKER_05]: Should I open it up or should you open it up? [SPEAKER_05]: You should.

[SPEAKER_05]: Just in case it's a fucking bomb. [SPEAKER_04]: Great day to show up for the bomb. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I remember when I called you dude, I thought we get a bomb since the office. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: That's a true story. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I shook this thing around and I was positive it was a fucking bomb and it was ticking. [SPEAKER_04]: It was ticking on the inside. [SPEAKER_07]: No, what if the destiny is your Amazon driver?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he actually listens to the show. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, does he? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's a moe he can, I think, or something. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, we're good then. [SPEAKER_07]: He rocks. [SPEAKER_05]: He pops in and booze. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: And nice. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he's great. [SPEAKER_07]: In his jersey or what are they called? [SPEAKER_07]: Is it a uniform? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's like a road guard vest or some shit.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is that a dildo, vibrator or something? [SPEAKER_05]: It said it had batteries in it. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God. [SPEAKER_04]: You went about, you went to talk about the perfect gift for the perfect time because it's just happened again for the third night. [SPEAKER_02]: Did it really? [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think you can show that on camera. [SPEAKER_05]: I think you can, it's just a dildo, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's a deck shape when I don't think you can show that. [SPEAKER_03]: Bob, it's the one on the WMBA court. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and it's a lot smaller from that one. [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just based on feel. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you what, I'll hold the dick head end of it. [SPEAKER_04]: That way they can't really bitch about this. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: So this is the exact dildo that has been thrown on the WNBA court.

[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, where are the batteries? [SPEAKER_04]: Parts. [SPEAKER_04]: What you're going to love this because what you suggested yesterday actually came true. [SPEAKER_04]: Who was it that suggested? [SPEAKER_04]: Because of the the polling market and the crypto thing that's you should get it and do it because they were they were allowing back [SPEAKER_05]: We saw it on Twitter somewhere, with some dude that said it was an unlimited money hack. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't remember.

[SPEAKER_04]: So by the way, the guy that we posted yesterday, who got busted, the neck beard guy, what was his name Bob? [SPEAKER_04]: Pull him up and put him on screen here. [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, braiden, there's, it's like, braiden or something. [SPEAKER_04]: But put it on screen, and this is important. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you why. [SPEAKER_04]: You will lose your mind off of this, because it's really fucking funny. [SPEAKER_04]: So there he is. [SPEAKER_04]: So he gets arrested.

[SPEAKER_04]: He goes into the interrogation room and all those shit and they were like, why did you do this? [SPEAKER_04]: And he said, dude, we had, we had all of our crypto in this and there was a bunch of crypto guys that we went all in on this to win this bet and we won. [SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, they each won like fifty nine thousand dollars or something crazy like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: For this.

[SPEAKER_04]: exact deal though hitting the court and you can bet on colors and everything else so whatever so he knew it they all bet on it and this guy was a crypto guy who went in there and and actually pulled the way you win the back you shouldn't admit to that because now they'll resend your winnings even if you cast out already they can fucking charge you know so it you remember when you and I were at the derby when the horse at the cocaine yeah they could not take those winnings back

[SPEAKER_05]: So I kept that that's because the animal cheated not because the guy cheated not because the better cheated the better cheats you can recoup that money. [SPEAKER_05]: So that if that's what happened and that was a big mistake. [SPEAKER_04]: I wish there was a return address in here card. [SPEAKER_04]: I shut out who you are but this is fucking hysterical and yeah, this is what's going on now and every single game we got one more gift here and I'm going to hold it for you.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh boy. [SPEAKER_04]: Here we go. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it's DMT or something. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not running low. [SPEAKER_05]: I've got a lot. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm doing pretty good though. [SPEAKER_06]: So far it was like a DMT suppository maybe? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm maybe. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's possible. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see what this is. [SPEAKER_05]: This is a picture of me it looks like. [SPEAKER_05]: It's from Maddie ice boy. [SPEAKER_05]: That's horrifying.

[SPEAKER_05]: What is it? [SPEAKER_05]: It's it's it's like AI it's AI with me smiling Which hold it up the camera. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean you can't see you can't see anybody it says you may be smile Dan Holloway on the side and over here. [SPEAKER_05]: It's [SPEAKER_05]: a picture of me. [SPEAKER_05]: Holy shit. [SPEAKER_05]: That's actually very good. [SPEAKER_08]: There's everything else in there, because he said he sent like a Teddy Roosevelt thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: So there's one more box I'm going to open up this now. [SPEAKER_04]: This is from Maddie Ice. [SPEAKER_04]: That's a really funny picture. [SPEAKER_04]: We should hang that up. [SPEAKER_07]: The real Maddie Ice? [SPEAKER_04]: Like the Lanna Falcons. [SPEAKER_04]: I would. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no, he's still on touchdowns right now. [SPEAKER_04]: No, he's not. [SPEAKER_04]: He's retired. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to throw a whole thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so ready for college football. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he deserves it. [SPEAKER_04]: That's the list in that twenty eight three game. [SPEAKER_04]: That's just me. [SPEAKER_04]: That's serious. [SPEAKER_04]: All right. [SPEAKER_04]: Great. [SPEAKER_04]: I do. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, you had it all there. [SPEAKER_04]: All you do is hang off the fucking ball. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't give a shit what the coach says. [SPEAKER_04]: Call an honorable, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Hang off the fucking ball. [SPEAKER_04]: God damn loser. [SPEAKER_04]: I know lie. [SPEAKER_04]: I have that negative feeling against him. [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I fucking hate him. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm dead, sirs. [SPEAKER_04]: Like call an audible. [SPEAKER_04]: Like that, that's one. [SPEAKER_04]: If the coach can't get out of his own way, it's your legacy on the line, hand the ball off.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if they would've, they would've kicked that field goal, and that game would've been over. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, look at this. [SPEAKER_04]: This is fun, Delco. [SPEAKER_04]: This is a little tiny golf clubs for you. [SPEAKER_04]: So you can play a little tiny, what's I got to do with Teddy Roosevelt? [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, he said he sent like a Teddy Roosevelt thing. [SPEAKER_04]: No, no. [SPEAKER_04]: This was all that was in the box. [SPEAKER_04]: So, not sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe Teddy Roosevelt stuff these little tiny clubs up his ass. [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting for me. [SPEAKER_04]: I would love to have known that before I voted for him. [SPEAKER_04]: Same here. [SPEAKER_04]: Same here. [SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate you guys tuning in. [SPEAKER_04]: Anybody else you want to give to him? [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, shoot, actually, you know, nobody actually thinks them, but my mom, she's pretty dang awesome, you know, she's up there in the ranch and Missouri.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, you know, she is, she rides a little lawnmower around every Saturday, you know, got the riding lawnmower running around, goes out and checks of in here. [SPEAKER_07]: It's pretty, pretty awesome. [SPEAKER_05]: So she's still, you should just go up with Lucinda. [SPEAKER_05]: Remember that woman felt? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Moinkbox.

[SPEAKER_05]: We probably need to hook up with her and do a, [SPEAKER_07]: like a combination of wine with their products just like she's great like your sponsor. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, stakes. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they should. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I like any fucking meat sponsor. [SPEAKER_04]: We're down for man. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I love Mike box too. [SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm still a subscriber to that as well. [SPEAKER_04]: I love all of it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate it soon and in kids go to Spotify. [SPEAKER_04]: Rate the show of five star video will be up there. [SPEAKER_04]: So whatever video is up on YouTube, we'll go to Spotify. [SPEAKER_04]: Patreon will still stay Patreon. [SPEAKER_04]: That'll keep going. [SPEAKER_04]: And that'll be crazy. [SPEAKER_04]: Shit. [SPEAKER_04]: However, we are uploading the back catalog up to Spotify now.

[SPEAKER_04]: And Ryan is over a thousand episodes on the back ends, which is rad and then we'll finish up the other shows. [SPEAKER_04]: So I think RPR is next citizen and then operator and all that stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: crime corners up already because they have their own editor shout out to Kubo for doing that. [SPEAKER_04]: So you're good to go over there and then go to iTunes right the show of five stars and leave a quick review. [SPEAKER_04]: It really is all the advertisers care about.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for being here, man. [SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate it, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: And all you little hulksers out there who are still fucking grieving, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: Know this. [SPEAKER_04]: You're real American, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: And so is Hulk. [SPEAKER_04]: And right now, he's in heaven. [SPEAKER_04]: Toby Keith, and uh, and enjoying his life, okay? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And, uh, John Bernay Ransy. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay?

[SPEAKER_04]: For David and Anthony, how are we? [SPEAKER_04]: I'm Ross Patterson, this drinking rose high, fast, good, diamond one. [UNKNOWN]: you