Episode 1527 - Underoath

[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to drinking thrones, presented by OmahaStakes.com. [SPEAKER_03]: Sit back, relax and have a bucket, drink, drink. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, welcome to drinking bro's kids. [SPEAKER_08]: These Wednesday shows are always fucking weird around here. [SPEAKER_08]: Today's no exception. [SPEAKER_08]: We've got, what would you say? [SPEAKER_08]: World renowned rock stars? [SPEAKER_05]: How would you label yourself back to back to back to back Grammy losing artist under a perfect.

[SPEAKER_05]: You guys are losers. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah three times three times four we were you guys are in the fucking gutter down here, so at least we were you're in the proper company. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, yeah, I don't write it home. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, so we've got [SPEAKER_08]: Four-time Grammy losers under oath on the show. [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome, guys. [SPEAKER_08]: Thanks for having us, brother. [SPEAKER_08]: How are you, dude?

[SPEAKER_08]: Congratulations on all your losses, by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: We've been a proud of those for you. [SPEAKER_05]: Proud for fun. [SPEAKER_05]: Don't all sitting empty on my shelf. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, our audience is big fans of you guys here. [SPEAKER_08]: What does it like to lose? [SPEAKER_08]: By the way, I had a friend who lost a Grammy.

[SPEAKER_08]: He told me a story that was so miserable that I kind of didn't want to share it with the audience, but [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe you guys have a different perspective on it. [SPEAKER_09]: We know my buddy, our buddy Brian Keating was the, I guess the runner up for a Nobel Prize in physics. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: We, and by the way, we name that show Nobel Prize loser. [SPEAKER_09]: His name of his book is losing the Nobel Prize.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: He wrote a fucking ball. [SPEAKER_05]: He took the ball. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Somebody get me a book deal. [SPEAKER_07]: We have four series options right now. [SPEAKER_05]: No shit. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, people always say, [SPEAKER_07]: We were just honored to be nominated. [SPEAKER_07]: That is true. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to lead with that, but I will say this too late.

[SPEAKER_07]: The categories for like rock and country and hard rock, they're not on the show. [SPEAKER_07]: They're in a different building during the day. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: You have to get there eleven a.m. [SPEAKER_07]: And so the last time we lost, we sat behind behind. [SPEAKER_07]: This was like twenty eighteen or nineteen. [SPEAKER_07]: We sat right behind Allison Chains. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: And [SPEAKER_07]: We wait, wait, wait, wait.

[SPEAKER_07]: And there's all these all kinds of different awards. [SPEAKER_07]: World music, fucking soundtracks. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it's so broad. [SPEAKER_07]: And then our category comes up. [SPEAKER_07]: And part of me thought we might have a shot. [SPEAKER_07]: Like I literally did that year. [SPEAKER_07]: I had never thought it before, but that year I was like we got a shot. [SPEAKER_08]: Did you read a speech or anything? [SPEAKER_07]: No, it was the song of the album.

[SPEAKER_07]: It was a song called On My Teeth and it was on the album called You Race Me. [SPEAKER_05]: It was for best metal performance. [SPEAKER_07]: And I thought I thought we might have a chance. [SPEAKER_07]: The song was real different and it seemed to be received. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, and I was like, okay. [SPEAKER_07]: And so we're sat right behind Allison Chainson. [SPEAKER_07]: We lose. [SPEAKER_07]: And there was like a palpable. [SPEAKER_07]: You could feel it in our party.

[SPEAKER_07]: Everyone's wives got Gus. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the whole fucker. [SPEAKER_07]: And you could feel like a. And they could hard player. [SPEAKER_07]: Jerry Cantrell who's a hero of mine. [SPEAKER_07]: Allison Chainson is around. [SPEAKER_07]: He goes, that was our night floss. [SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, okay. [SPEAKER_05]: They shot the fuck down. [SPEAKER_05]: They had lost in the can. [SPEAKER_07]: We were right before.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they've never, they've been nominated forever. [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think they've ever won one. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't Wow, yeah, that's a wild story metal band high on fire one our category which is sick because that's in Ray bands either It's funny. [SPEAKER_09]: I was Allison chains. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, either with Land Saley or what's the dude's name William some will you? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what's left. [SPEAKER_09]: Do all I think.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the black kid man. [SPEAKER_09]: He sounds exactly like we did that tour. [SPEAKER_09]: We didn't go right after that [SPEAKER_09]: Really what was the audience reception if you went to one didn't you it was a big and Benjamin concert and the an election change played it I they started playing I was in change started playing and I'm just drinking and not paying attention and I hear them saying like what the fuck? [SPEAKER_08]: Same and I turned around.

[SPEAKER_08]: I was like holy shit. [SPEAKER_08]: It was like the Asian who's now the lead singer of Journey or you're like oh, but the fuck bro, is it volume hung? [SPEAKER_08]: No, have you seen this guy? [SPEAKER_07]: Because that'd be dope the agent for journey. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I sound like Steve Perry. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god, so it's it's the wildest doc you'll ever see. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm a gigantic rock doc. [SPEAKER_08]: I should have was watching one last nice.

[SPEAKER_08]: I can read every book about bands and then watch every documentary about movies. [SPEAKER_09]: I can only imagine this in a very racist agent. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, okay, so we paid this is patreon as YouTube page. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, great. [SPEAKER_08]: We can play this so type in Asian [SPEAKER_08]: journey lead singer and we'll play it for you.

[SPEAKER_08]: So I'll give you a backstory to this because when you hear it, you're going to all you're going to hear a Steve Perry and they found this guy in a karaoke bar in some fucking tiny country of louser, something like that. [SPEAKER_08]: It went viral because he could sing identical to Steve Perry. [SPEAKER_08]: They called him flew him out. [SPEAKER_08]: He does not know one word of English.

[SPEAKER_08]: And the next thing you know, he's on a sold-out tour of arenas and everything else, and he's the lead singer journey. [SPEAKER_08]: He was unfamiliar, like he didn't know anything besides karaoke. [SPEAKER_08]: He ended up in the hospital because he's so exhausted halfway through the tour because he's never done it before. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: He's just, yeah, it'll fuck you. [SPEAKER_05]: If you're not ready, you can't go from karaoke bar to full-time touring.

[SPEAKER_08]: so you're watching this guy getting carried out in ambulance after a show and you're just like what the fuck I mean they just pulled this kid out of obscurity but his voice is identical play the song Bob this is him right this is don't stop believing it looks like Steve Aoki [SPEAKER_08]: It's not. [SPEAKER_04]: There's no figure. [SPEAKER_03]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. [SPEAKER_05]: What? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: That is great. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm about to say something.

[SPEAKER_08]: Feel free to go. [SPEAKER_08]: That is the brought up in the moment we'll chat about it here. [SPEAKER_08]: When he gets to the chorus and we'll cut it out to that, like, you'll understand, like, I mean, the vocal range. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not. [SPEAKER_08]: And look at the audience. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's completely fucking sold out around him. [SPEAKER_08]: They love it. [SPEAKER_08]: Love it. [SPEAKER_08]: And they love him. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's story, too.

[SPEAKER_06]: It is like, dude from nowhere'sville. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, [SPEAKER_05]: Bob cuts the course real quick. [SPEAKER_05]: Jumping. [SPEAKER_05]: Just the confidence on stage is remarkable for not growing up and doing a lot of percent to cover the movement. [SPEAKER_05]: There we go. [SPEAKER_08]: Whoa. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, is that insane or what? [SPEAKER_08]: That is crazy. [SPEAKER_07]: The ball is it takes to sing it as one ball is it takes to sing it?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that's the more impressive thing. [SPEAKER_05]: There's people in the voice that can sing really well, but to have that charisma and energy and just own this thing out of nowhere is bananas. [SPEAKER_08]: And so he's young, which means the band can keep touring forever and ever and ever. [SPEAKER_08]: And he's the dude and he's got the energy and all this other shit.

[SPEAKER_08]: So after the first year, [SPEAKER_08]: After going in and out of a hospital and trying to learn what touring life was and everything else, and then fame on top of it, he was able to pick it up, stay in the game, and this is going on now for like five or six years with this dude as the lead singer. [SPEAKER_08]: And I know you just said it sounds better than Steve Perry. [SPEAKER_08]: They asked Steve Perry about it. [SPEAKER_08]: He was not real happy about it.

[SPEAKER_06]: There's only one Steve Perry. [SPEAKER_06]: I just watched this fucking Yacht Rock documentary on the way back from Europe. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the greatest and one of the greatest of ever seen. [SPEAKER_07]: They try to call Donald Fagan and he was if they have the audio and they're like, what do you think about the term Yacht Rock? [SPEAKER_07]: And he just goes fuck off. [SPEAKER_09]: What did that term come from?

[SPEAKER_08]: uh... it was a sketch series bob how does that sketch series on youtube it's an SNL thing isn't it knows uh... it was actually a youtube sketch series uh... and i was a web series like on your channel one one that's it so they did this yacht rock series it explodes all their music explodes they end up going back on to use all the documentary obviously but seven thirty years post [SPEAKER_07]: like Michael McDonald.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: So I was actually talking about my wife last night because I'm watching that Billy Joel doctor just dropped last night on HBO. [SPEAKER_08]: I want to see that. [SPEAKER_08]: I hate Billy Joel. [SPEAKER_08]: You do? [SPEAKER_08]: I hate so I'm hate watching it because I can't wait for him to drunk in the crash into that person's house and you're waiting for him to fuck up because he's such an asshole and when you see him. [SPEAKER_09]: Is he allowed to drive?

[SPEAKER_09]: He's like five foot one. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I literally can't even touch my feet on the floor. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a widow guy. [SPEAKER_08]: And not at all, but the Grammy story, so my buddy goes and he's nominated for his wife was nominated for Best Music video, she's a director. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, because that's also one of the categories and he had run through the story and they lost. [SPEAKER_08]: And he goes, dude, it's hottest fuck.

[SPEAKER_08]: You're in Tuxitos, you're there at eleven a.m. [SPEAKER_08]: It's horrible. [SPEAKER_08]: The show doesn't start till five because you get to go on East Coast at eight o'clock. [SPEAKER_08]: By the time the show is fucking over at eleven thirty at night. [SPEAKER_08]: You've been there for fourteen fucking hours and if you can get drinks, great. [SPEAKER_08]: A lot of people have drugs, which will also help, but you can't really get drinks. [SPEAKER_07]: You can try.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I heard. [SPEAKER_07]: I have a theory. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll never go again if I'm nominated. [SPEAKER_07]: Let me tell you my theory. [SPEAKER_07]: So he never went again, by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: So we all went once. [SPEAKER_07]: I was in a band when under oath is broken up for a while called Paramore, who's had a massive success. [SPEAKER_07]: Never heard of him. [SPEAKER_07]: And Paramore had been nominated seven times.

[SPEAKER_07]: And when I was in the band, just as a hired guy, I was there for almost five years. [SPEAKER_07]: They were nominated for like, [SPEAKER_07]: pop or rock song of the year I can't remember and they didn't go we were in another country and they won [SPEAKER_07]: I think if you don't go, you might win. [SPEAKER_08]: That's what I think. [SPEAKER_06]: And then if you get the award in the mail, it's like, you know, you still got the award. [SPEAKER_06]: You got it.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm good with it. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm good with it. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm good with it. [SPEAKER_06]: My wife was like so stressed about getting dressed for it. [SPEAKER_07]: We left before it's over. [SPEAKER_04]: All of that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, fuck that. [SPEAKER_08]: All those awards shows are awful. [SPEAKER_08]: And when you're nominated and lose, so I was nominated for an MTV Movie Award in two thousand eights, loss. [SPEAKER_08]: And they called me the day before.

[SPEAKER_08]: And I said, hey, Ross, what's going on? [SPEAKER_08]: It was like nothing. [SPEAKER_08]: Excited, you know? [SPEAKER_08]: I can't wait to be there. [SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, well, we're calling to tell you you're going to lose tomorrow. [SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, yeah, and they're like, do you still want your tickets? [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm fine.

[SPEAKER_08]: I flew up my entire family like all the shit and everything else and I was like oh my god and then I'm about to go to dinner with them that night because we're going to the award show the next night and they said you lost and I've got to sit there with my entire family and tell them I lost at least if I'm there like you guys yeah [SPEAKER_08]: You still have that hope and it's like, all right, great. [SPEAKER_08]: You didn't want to tell you on the Grammys, you know.

[SPEAKER_08]: So the Grammys, they don't tell you. [SPEAKER_08]: Almost every other award show, the SP's, all that are the shits. [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody knows? [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. [SPEAKER_05]: God. [SPEAKER_08]: So when you, uh, yeah, I, I went anyways because I wanted to do the experience and, you know, they still call your name out. [SPEAKER_08]: You want to walk apart. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, dude.

[SPEAKER_08]: And, you know, with my friends and family too who had gone and they wanted to meet celebrities and everything else. [SPEAKER_08]: Um, ironically, the band that played because it always played like, you know, one song was a cold play. [SPEAKER_08]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_08]: Now going through it right now. [SPEAKER_09]: No, Cole plays doing fine. [SPEAKER_09]: No, they are. [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to say that's our care. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, shit.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's the very wealthy man. [SPEAKER_09]: His wife put out a statement today by the way. [SPEAKER_09]: Did she really? [SPEAKER_05]: She was statement. [SPEAKER_05]: He's been. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, she's Bob find the statement. [SPEAKER_09]: I've been heard this dude. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I find it. [SPEAKER_09]: She's the the man in that relationship. [SPEAKER_05]: It is calculated and vicious and real.

[SPEAKER_07]: I saw a picture of that today and [SPEAKER_07]: Do you notice how red they were? [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, dude. [SPEAKER_05]: Which leads me to believe that was the camera dude. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_05]: No, that was not camera burnt as fuck. [SPEAKER_07]: Which leads me to police. [SPEAKER_05]: They were out on the beach. [SPEAKER_05]: They were on the beach. [SPEAKER_07]: They were on the beach. [SPEAKER_07]: They were on the beach. [SPEAKER_07]: They bent.

[SPEAKER_07]: They bent on our trip, brother. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, that's [SPEAKER_06]: full on. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: It looked like they just got off of vacation. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And then we're like, hey, we're rich enough. [SPEAKER_08]: You're going to go play. [SPEAKER_05]: And we were just talking about that earlier today with somebody else, but it's like, there's a different thing. [SPEAKER_05]: Getting drunk, you're out. [SPEAKER_05]: It's two AM.

[SPEAKER_05]: You accidentally out of your mind, do something with someone versus this like loving emotional premeditated, subtle connection. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, that's just the word. [SPEAKER_08]: If you're gonna be using the parking lot of a CVS and fucking Fort Lauderdale, fine, right? [SPEAKER_08]: But you should go viral like this. [SPEAKER_08]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_06]: But you're not going viral like this.

[SPEAKER_06]: If you're a couple of wildways getting a rim job in the bathroom, it's fine. [SPEAKER_06]: It's yes. [SPEAKER_06]: You obviously don't want to get that hot sauce because that that rimmer is gonna burn. [SPEAKER_09]: No, those you do those before the meal obviously have to, right? [SPEAKER_05]: It's like the premeditation is just gross like there's [SPEAKER_05]: There's no worse way to find out your husband's show.

[SPEAKER_05]: Then seeing him lovingly holding a woman that should be you. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_05]: It's this. [SPEAKER_08]: And the world to know. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: But here's the way he was holding her by the tip. [SPEAKER_09]: Look how red they are. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the dude you're partying your rich. [SPEAKER_08]: That's what happens when you're out on a boat all day.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think it's like they what why would you be at a cold place show? [SPEAKER_09]: Because it's it's actually a blast it's normal. [SPEAKER_08]: No, it's even if you're not a fan of the band by the way, you never knew that is so sick. [SPEAKER_08]: But if you're, even if you're not a fan of the band, if you guys made a local place show, it is a fucking great. [SPEAKER_08]: It's an event. [SPEAKER_08]: Like you're getting bracelets fucking shit shoot now to cannons everywhere.

[SPEAKER_09]: There's some stuff that I want to do, right? [SPEAKER_09]: So I won't, I won't eat foods that have estrogen in them. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, and I won't go to bands that have estrogen. [SPEAKER_09]: It's too much. [SPEAKER_09]: The original play is filled with estrogen. [SPEAKER_09]: People talk shit about us going to see Creed. [SPEAKER_09]: Creed had, there was more to stoster on in that building than any show of her. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I can smell it from you.

[SPEAKER_08]: Dude, I came three times. [SPEAKER_09]: It was coming up. [SPEAKER_09]: You can see the heat coming off of his fucking chest, right? [SPEAKER_00]: It might burn. [SPEAKER_00]: Ron, don't let him get away with this. [SPEAKER_00]: The first two co-play albums, nothing but banging. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have a good fuck of their bangers run. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: That's what we're talking about. [SPEAKER_08]: We can debate that.

[SPEAKER_08]: I've debated this with my wife last night. [SPEAKER_08]: I just don't like the cheesiness of Billy Joel of like all the genres are different for him. [SPEAKER_08]: Like I can't. [SPEAKER_08]: When I listen to you guys, I know what I'm getting and it's there's a comfort about it, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Where's Billy Joel is going to be called that. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but there's like Billy Joel, there's like a do up song from the fifties.

[SPEAKER_08]: And then he switched to piano man. [SPEAKER_08]: Play us a song out of me, Adam. [SPEAKER_08]: They're all uniquely different. [SPEAKER_08]: You're like, what style are you trying to do today? [SPEAKER_03]: And then he's got old hard work. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And then it's like rock and roll. [SPEAKER_08]: I told him, I couldn't take it in. [SPEAKER_08]: And you're like, that sounds nothing.

[SPEAKER_09]: People just bring me the magic shit for that too, because they change it up all the time. [SPEAKER_09]: in fairness, in fairness, in fairness, in fairness with that dude. [SPEAKER_07]: In fairness, people give us awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: People give us the same. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, really. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'll do our two thousand four to two thousand seven. [SPEAKER_05]: We were literally on three different countries creatively within two years.

[SPEAKER_09]: What would you frame it as? [SPEAKER_09]: Because there's like, if you go to the Grammys, there's one category, but in rock and metal now, there's like, eighty different things. [SPEAKER_05]: Right now, I think we're definitely not metal. [SPEAKER_05]: We don't do solos. [SPEAKER_05]: We don't do anything flashy. [SPEAKER_05]: We don't do drums. [SPEAKER_05]: Metals are all about the world. [SPEAKER_05]: We're definitely rock.

[SPEAKER_05]: But our first album that really blew up chasing safety was like melodic Jimmy World mixed with hardcore stuff and then hard pivot to define the right line which is just [SPEAKER_07]: I think you could already long song define a great line like Prague metal. [SPEAKER_07]: I'd say it's metal. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you could call it metal. [SPEAKER_07]: And the music we make now is not metal at all. [SPEAKER_09]: No, but my opinion metal is always bit about the breakdowns, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: See metal to me. [SPEAKER_07]: We don't have break down. [SPEAKER_09]: We really have metal to me is like [SPEAKER_05]: Metal core is breakdowns. [SPEAKER_05]: It's very nuanced. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the screen. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the screaming on it. [SPEAKER_08]: It makes it metal. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and like a hardcore post, hardcore both fucking screaming too. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and then screen. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's good.

[SPEAKER_08]: Can you guys keep you still screaming like that? [SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm the guy that a lot of the law sings. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not the guy that screams. [SPEAKER_06]: Got you. [SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm not the screen. [SPEAKER_08]: You should get a t-shirt that says, uh, one of our best friends is Danny Worst nut, uh, leasing or asking Alexandria. [SPEAKER_08]: Talk to him this morning. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, really? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he's a real piece of shit.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's going through it isn't his second to last single I wrote. [SPEAKER_09]: He's trying to become an American right now. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: He's a country singer. [SPEAKER_08]: I love his new shit. [SPEAKER_06]: So he's such a beautiful voice. [SPEAKER_08]: He's a second to last. [SPEAKER_07]: Not a gay way. [SPEAKER_07]: This is his second to last song I wrote. [SPEAKER_07]: No shit.

[SPEAKER_08]: Dude, my favorite song is just an acoustic song where you just buy himself playing it. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so we did the cruise for our fans like what five years ago and I remember when it was. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, it was super out of control. [SPEAKER_09]: He came with us, so we just got really high on the top deck of the cruise. [SPEAKER_07]: Was it a six-man cruise? [SPEAKER_09]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_09]: I think it was Carnival. [SPEAKER_08]: It was five hundred people.

[SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: So, and then the rest of it was open, right? [SPEAKER_08]: So it was five hundred of our listeners. [SPEAKER_08]: No, it was not private. [SPEAKER_05]: And we were co-mingling with all. [SPEAKER_05]: So you just had a giant bachelor at party. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, pretty much with a bunch of fucking pieces. [SPEAKER_09]: It was out of control. [SPEAKER_05]: So you ruined fifteen hundred other people's times. [SPEAKER_05]: Probably. [SPEAKER_05]: That's great.

[SPEAKER_07]: Next time you do rob all me. [SPEAKER_05]: We were out. [SPEAKER_08]: But Danny, so, you know, we, they played. [SPEAKER_08]: We had a fucking blast, shit got out of control and wild and everything else, but he's taking some heat right now because he's using AI because he can't do the screams anymore, and he goes, dude, my voice can't physically do that anymore. [SPEAKER_08]: Like you understand when you get older, you just, you can't scream like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's what makes you go with an Asian guy for the sounds. [SPEAKER_08]: Do you hear that one? [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: I wrote that song. [SPEAKER_07]: No shit? [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: That's all. [SPEAKER_08]: Do you live in Nashville then? [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's my day job. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm a country songwriter. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, pretty sure.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Dude, but I'm trying to get, I just talked to a country guy today, a whole man just managed your, yes. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Have you heard a little man Jayson? [SPEAKER_08]: I have. [SPEAKER_08]: It's, it's a really game in Nashville. [SPEAKER_08]: It could be the, it could be the song in the summer if he gets a little more play. [SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, I was just chatting with his manager right before we came in there. [SPEAKER_08]: That's awesome.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, that's probably hoping to get him on. [SPEAKER_07]: So the Danny War stop be thing is this strangest. [SPEAKER_07]: So we wrote together ten days ago and he's like dealing with it and on my couch and my studio and I'm like man [SPEAKER_07]: That's one that just really went over my head, the reason behind it, and how people are so angry. [SPEAKER_07]: And he literally, he legitimately is like, it was about the clothes I was wearing. [SPEAKER_07]: Not just the vocal.

[SPEAKER_07]: They were all of it. [SPEAKER_07]: They were bitching about the, and what he said to me, he's like, and it was really, it bummed me out, because he literally looked at me and he said, I thought I look cool. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: He was, he wasn't trying, it wasn't a bit. [SPEAKER_07]: He wasn't trying to fuck with, he wore like a big hood, and literally goes, I thought I look cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like bigger thing with that is like and he's sober now.

[SPEAKER_07]: He's not like he's sober and it got a trainer and his on macros. [SPEAKER_07]: He's not fucking around like he wasn't high or drunk. [SPEAKER_05]: The pile on shit is the shit that pisses me off. [SPEAKER_05]: Like what was the actual problem? [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm trying to say. [SPEAKER_05]: He screamed weird. [SPEAKER_05]: He was on tracks. [SPEAKER_05]: He wore a hoodie because now it's just the whole totality of that show and that band sucks.

[SPEAKER_05]: Go home and it can't be that. [SPEAKER_05]: It's always this and then someone piles on and then you create this fight [SPEAKER_08]: But the weird thing is they sell out everywhere still. [SPEAKER_08]: So it's like, what are you? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they're going to be fine. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, everything's fine. [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, I don't think people know enough about the art to be criticizing him frankly, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: So when Michael Jordan's trainer talked about this a lot back in the day about when he quit basketball play baseball, I had to completely transform his body into something else. [SPEAKER_09]: And then when he went back, he had to transform again, he had to like go back to a normal style. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Like you can't go between country and screaming. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a div, like your vocal cords have to be trained differently. [SPEAKER_09]: You can't like do.

[SPEAKER_07]: You can't like do count that he might be the guy that can, but they're still. [SPEAKER_07]: But it's like the stress of the song. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: There's still a change like I can't scream at all. [SPEAKER_07]: I could sing on a tour for six weeks. [SPEAKER_07]: But if you injected, hey, Aaron, [SPEAKER_07]: I can do both. [SPEAKER_07]: Spencer's shut the fuck up.

[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey,

[SPEAKER_05]: There is a technique, and you can do it in an isolated way, then doesn't screw your vocal cords up, but most people, I mean, he's been growing up for years. [SPEAKER_09]: How do you keep your fucking voice clean on a tour like that when you're, when you're growling in shit? [SPEAKER_07]: The most important thing, I think, is sleeping. [SPEAKER_07]: It is all of it. [SPEAKER_07]: That's all of it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: You have to sleep a full night, especially if you're doing, you know, we go out for six weeks and do forty shows. [SPEAKER_07]: So if you're gonna make it through those forties shows, there's no world where you're not, you're gonna sleep five hours a night. [SPEAKER_07]: You can't do that. [SPEAKER_07]: If you stay up drinking to four in the morning, you are sleeping until noon. [SPEAKER_07]: That's just what we do.

[SPEAKER_07]: On our bus, the five of us sleep eight hours a night. [SPEAKER_08]: So if anybody gets up before noon, you're like, fuck off. [SPEAKER_08]: Take them guys down. [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no. [SPEAKER_05]: No, no. [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no. [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no. [SPEAKER_05]: It loads in at like seven. [SPEAKER_05]: We're just you're you're just asleep because chill.

[SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, we literally did and you guys were able to drink because this is your beer by the way, which is delicious. [SPEAKER_05]: This is beer. [SPEAKER_08]: That's not an under oath. [SPEAKER_05]: This is awesome. [SPEAKER_08]: This is green dart. [SPEAKER_08]: This is the brewery. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, this is good. [SPEAKER_05]: Green darts, the pills. [SPEAKER_05]: Cheers, man. [SPEAKER_08]: Cheers, brother. [SPEAKER_08]: Cheers.

[SPEAKER_08]: But when you're drinking and boozing, so like even when you're at shit, even podcast and a lot of stuff, I mean, like I had to cut off reason why we started hard day of shelter was you start doing shots and sure all over the shit all the time. [SPEAKER_08]: Hard alcohol is really hard in your voice. [SPEAKER_08]: So it's like, all right, let's create something that's a high ABV that at least I can party all day.

[SPEAKER_08]: You fucked up and have a good time and not affect my voice the next day. [SPEAKER_07]: We do drink and have a good time and I would say [SPEAKER_07]: a good amount. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, but it's just a sleep thing for us. [SPEAKER_07]: We don't fuck around with that on tour. [SPEAKER_07]: Everybody sleeps on interesting. [SPEAKER_08]: If you go drinking and not sleep, all right, I mean, and get them sleep and then we find the next thing.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: He's got there. [SPEAKER_05]: What about drugs? [SPEAKER_05]: We don't do drugs. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Our just singer who's not here did cook for a while, which everyone knows, so it's not like blowing a shit on. [SPEAKER_05]: Sure, sure, sure. [SPEAKER_05]: He's off that and we don't do anything. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we like, if you consider weed a drug, [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't consider any of the drugs. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I believe in the words. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm really in the second house in theory. [SPEAKER_05]: I just haven't been able to do them yet. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, they're these due to some washroom sometimes. [SPEAKER_05]: There's some. [SPEAKER_05]: I've eaten mushrooms four times and nothing's happened every single time. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, here's what we'll do. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll smoke some DMT.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Then if you're resistant to that, you wouldn't do it right now. [SPEAKER_08]: No way. [SPEAKER_08]: We got some. [SPEAKER_08]: I would need to verify. [SPEAKER_08]: It's up to you. [SPEAKER_08]: If you want to see a reaction I mean right now as you give a show to me. [SPEAKER_05]: No, we have you just scared this shit out of me because it's something that I want that you do you feed people a percent. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to do it and then offer them DMT.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is this up to you in the afternoon? [SPEAKER_09]: Can I ask a question? [SPEAKER_09]: He'll be your shaman dude. [SPEAKER_09]: He'll do it. [SPEAKER_09]: I just want to write for you like it, you know. [SPEAKER_08]: What the hell often do you feel like? [SPEAKER_08]: I put it this way one one time and I forget what show was you you you were autistic you might fucking remember this, but he was smoking it live on air and we did a full normal show.

[SPEAKER_09]: I was smoking and I was smoking and then right, which is a different variant. [SPEAKER_09]: So it's it's still DMT, but it's the kind that kind of makes you feel like around mushrooms. [SPEAKER_09]: Then five in the O makes you prostrate and fucking see kaleidoscopes. [SPEAKER_09]: That's not I'm not doing that actually That's what interest me though. [SPEAKER_05]: That's really what interests me.

[SPEAKER_09]: I could smoke it and then Go out for ten minutes and then come back smoke it again, and I could do it normal show after that. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh dude We shouldn't name names, but a band that we toured with had those yes [SPEAKER_09]: I've got I've got plenty of both so any time you guys want to, you know, you know, they live, I know that you can make DM like that. [SPEAKER_08]: They were just hitting it all tour.

[SPEAKER_08]: Um, there was a period of time for me where I want to do Ayahuasca. [SPEAKER_08]: That was the thing for me back in the day.

[SPEAKER_08]: And I would say [SPEAKER_08]: Ten years ago and so I'm married for shit thirteen I think right now and my wife's a hippie from California and she's like I don't know that's the best for you and I was like why she's like you're so focused and driven on the things that you're doing you really want to open up something that could potentially not make you as driven and focus as you are and I was like shit [SPEAKER_08]: So at the time went on, I thought about it.

[SPEAKER_08]: I was like, you're right. [SPEAKER_08]: I think the blinders that I already have on are good enough that I don't really need to expose or think about the other side. [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's something a little later in life after the kids graduate and go to whatever and then I'm like, okay, cool.

[SPEAKER_08]: If I'm out in the middle of the jungle and I shit my pants and I touch my my dead grandmother's face, [SPEAKER_08]: fine at that age but right now there's too many responsibilities and there's too many people depending on upon me it's just to take off and then we'll see what happens with all of those drugs my biggest fears you you go do it it opens up your mind [SPEAKER_07]: There's only two outcomes, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Like you turn into a fucking sniffing mushrooms, homeless man, or it's great for you. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's great for you. [SPEAKER_05]: My fear is similar. [SPEAKER_05]: My fear is unlocking something and coming back and being like, the house we have is disgusting.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even want to go to work. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a construct bro. [SPEAKER_05]: I've been money's dead to me.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that's how I feel like I might ask. [SPEAKER_08]: He's fine because he's a professional drug user. [SPEAKER_08]: Like if you're going to pick one to like, uh, you know, represent the United States of America and the Olympics. [SPEAKER_08]: It's him. [SPEAKER_08]: There's a little bit no emotion. [SPEAKER_08]: It'll be like Ron Swanson and you would know the empty. [SPEAKER_08]: You wouldn't know if he's on fucking acid right now. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just hanging out.

[SPEAKER_09]: Certain types of mushrooms will make me laugh a lot, right? [SPEAKER_09]: But there's a one, the first thing you need to master is yourself, right? [SPEAKER_09]: So these fears that you have get to put that shit aside, that's not real. [SPEAKER_09]: That's your projection into the future and you have no experience on which to base that projection do. [SPEAKER_05]: No, just catastrophizing first. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: For no reason. [SPEAKER_05]: That's nonsense.

[SPEAKER_09]: Hyperbolic say intentionality matters. [SPEAKER_09]: If you're going to, I wouldn't recommend anybody [SPEAKER_09]: using I wasca that doesn't need to for some reason. [SPEAKER_09]: That's not a recreational drug. [SPEAKER_09]: It sucks. [SPEAKER_09]: Same with I've again. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: You've done both of those. [SPEAKER_09]: No, I've done neither because I don't need any of that shit.

[SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: But I've done a lot of acid seven seven eight hundred times, a lot of mushrooms. [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, eight hundred times? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: You've done acid. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: It's good for you. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I think intentionality is what matters, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: Like you've got a if you start digging a hole in your background looking for dead bodies, you got to be willing to find them and ready to deal with the consequences of that, right? [SPEAKER_09]: And that's what you do when you put psychedelics into your brain. [SPEAKER_07]: So I think I need. [SPEAKER_07]: That's kind of where I'm at. [SPEAKER_07]: I think I need I was like I might. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you might.

[SPEAKER_08]: And that's the other thing is like I'm not going to shoot on anybody who does not begin to do it. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a different mindset for people. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: He is the one in our band that needs psychedelics the most. [SPEAKER_05]: I would try DMT first and he's the most scared of it. [SPEAKER_08]: And DMT only lasts what? [SPEAKER_09]: Eight ten minutes or something like that? [SPEAKER_09]: Fifteen of tops. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, something like that.

[SPEAKER_08]: Fifteen minutes. [SPEAKER_08]: So at least you can pop out of it. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's kind of feel like a lot longer. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Kind of like Sativa. [SPEAKER_08]: You've been in that. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: All right. [SPEAKER_08]: That, you know, you go into one of those holes and you're like, man, how long is that? [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a bit of a salvage.

[SPEAKER_08]: So I'll be sorry, salvage. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I've also got that apology. [SPEAKER_09]: You've done salvage? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Salvi is just like whip it. [SPEAKER_09]: You can buy that it. [SPEAKER_09]: You can buy that down the street. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, it does just make your brain vibrate and you get retarded for five minutes. [SPEAKER_07]: You go sideways and we feel like you're in that cable for a while.

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, you know, and then they used to give these Salvi it. [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe I'm totally certain maybe there was a salvia movie that they made in Hollywood and so when you when you did it for the first time If you trusted the person you would give him this movie and it was narrated by Lawrence Fishburn and it's it has nothing I'd like it's not it's beautiful It's beautifully shot and everything else, but it is only for your mind on salvia.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's so you're just watching this fucking thing where it's like [SPEAKER_05]: screen saver camera. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a camera way up in the clouds and it slowly comes in. [SPEAKER_08]: You're like, man, what is that? [SPEAKER_08]: Well, it's, it's a, it's a, it's an elephant. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a, it's a black high diver. [SPEAKER_07]: And you're like, yeah, it was the first consumer, it was called Spice. [SPEAKER_07]: You remember that?

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: It, it, it, so they sold it at the fucking gas station. [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, on warp tour in O seven, my side project, so side project was on the tour.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I didn't do it in this instance, but [SPEAKER_07]: a friend of mine in a band that you know had a volcano out on the tour again in his bus and they they've all canoed some spice and two guys from my band did it like drinking throw fire hose and they literally were like it was the worst experience of my life

[SPEAKER_08]: like like it changed them you know what I mean like it we've all had those yeah we've all had that one night where you're like man I pushed it too full I've never had a bad one really no you've never had a bad trip or mine was on accident though I was at University West Virginia and I got some rest Virginia what a weird place yeah don't go to West Virginia I know and they mix all this shit together

[SPEAKER_08]: because there's nothing to do there that you're just like, all right, let's do this. [SPEAKER_08]: Everyone is fucked there. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's a fun. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a fun. [SPEAKER_09]: Morgan town is a good place to party. [SPEAKER_09]: It is. [SPEAKER_06]: If you don't like it all sent to, but it's it's. [SPEAKER_07]: They do drugs in a different way. [SPEAKER_08]: They do.

[SPEAKER_08]: So West Virginia, I was introduced the atomic milkshake, which I'd never had before. [SPEAKER_08]: Which is what you take a two-foot bomb, rip it as high as it'll go, cap it off, and then pull the slide out, put a full nitrous balloon over that cap. [SPEAKER_08]: So it shoots the smoke and the nitrous down the back of your throat and like two seconds. [SPEAKER_08]: I was in a, you turned in a Kanye West.

[SPEAKER_08]: No, I wasn't a wooden chair and I flew back like I was in a horror movie and I was just looking straight up at the ceiling and I was like, wholely felt yourself fly back and you physically actually felt back. [SPEAKER_08]: I physically actually like it knocked me off the chair. [SPEAKER_09]: See, that to me is retarded. [SPEAKER_09]: That's like, um, that's why Virginia.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's like eating five pounds of shitty steak when I can eat a nice, twelve ounce wagger steak, right? [SPEAKER_09]: Like at this point in my life, I'm about the experience. [SPEAKER_09]: But I was twice. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I was twenty one. [SPEAKER_08]: I think you're twenty years old and I was like, yeah, fuck it. [SPEAKER_08]: You guys party, we party great. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, we've all been in chaos. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not a big deal.

[SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: And that like a chaos fine. [SPEAKER_08]: But, uh, [SPEAKER_05]: If you're no sir, we have a nod. [SPEAKER_08]: If you're too high, like even a high hangover the next day, you're taking a gummy that's too strong when you're sick. [SPEAKER_08]: Dude, I did that the other day. [SPEAKER_08]: And you sleep forever. [SPEAKER_08]: You can't really shake it so like seven o'clock in the night. [SPEAKER_08]: That's your song.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's why I don't do ask anymore because it's a fucking weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't have time for this shit. [SPEAKER_09]: No, the hours. [SPEAKER_09]: It's the hours putting in for this shit. [SPEAKER_09]: But you can we get some DMT right now and you guys would be ready for dinner. [SPEAKER_05]: We're not going to smoke. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying we should. [SPEAKER_05]: I will do it. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no, I don't.

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't even know what the fuck that is up there. [SPEAKER_09]: I've got real DMD. [SPEAKER_09]: No, we've got real DM's here. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, if Aaron does it, I'll do it. [SPEAKER_08]: Look at that. [SPEAKER_08]: Aaron, where are you at? [SPEAKER_05]: He Andy has a call to make tonight. [SPEAKER_05]: That's very important. [SPEAKER_05]: And I think. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it might go better.

[SPEAKER_07]: My whole thing with all of that is like, there was a time when I would, I would take Xanax all the time and drink on it. [SPEAKER_07]: And the last time I did it when I decided like hey, I got a clean I got a clean stuff up. [SPEAKER_07]: We were in Europe and I took like a half as anx. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's see bar yeah and had like three beers four beers and I woke up in my boots in my bunk like [SPEAKER_07]: Eighteen hours later. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, shit.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it was like I timed traveled. [SPEAKER_07]: And that's the last time for me. [SPEAKER_07]: And this was this was in two thousand nine. [SPEAKER_08]: I only take it to sleep because that's it. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, so I'll use it for sleep. [SPEAKER_09]: I could never take that in the middle of the day or working or anything else any other nobody should ever take Xanax for any reason because it shuts off your brain literally. [SPEAKER_09]: That's, that's what I heard.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And like you're not the sleep the sleep that you think you're getting is not actually happening. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's the only way it can happen. [SPEAKER_08]: So, uh, I've tried everything. [SPEAKER_05]: Like you guys heard it here first. [SPEAKER_05]: Acid eight hundred times no problem. [SPEAKER_05]: Xanex never from never. [SPEAKER_08]: All right, Anthony.

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[SPEAKER_08]: If you want Bob, if you want to pop that up on screen here, let everybody know. [SPEAKER_08]: We've never, you know, fucking unfiltered and all that other bullshit. [SPEAKER_08]: We've never been allowed to shoot in one of these stores, uh, or a Walmart or a Costco or something like that because simply, uh, look, it usually goes through corporate, they listen to the shows and they're like, there's not a fucking prayer or letting you record in the goddamn. [SPEAKER_08]: store.

[SPEAKER_08]: There's just no way. [SPEAKER_08]: Bars and restaurants find. [SPEAKER_08]: It's twenty one up, you know, most of these bars are twenty one up anyways. [SPEAKER_08]: So Bob's going to put his own screen right now. [SPEAKER_08]: We are going to do a live show from a convenience store. [SPEAKER_08]: We made a deal with a lot of these states for hard AF cells that like, hey, dude, you put it in all your fucking stores.

[SPEAKER_08]: We'll show up at whatever store you want and do a live show. [SPEAKER_08]: So in August, [SPEAKER_08]: It is going into all the USA to go stores in the state of Michigan. [SPEAKER_08]: Dan and I will be doing a live show. [SPEAKER_08]: It's six p.m. [SPEAKER_08]: from this one in particular. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to give you the address. [SPEAKER_08]: It is Oceola Village Market at nineteen hundred. [SPEAKER_08]: That's one nine zero zero.

[SPEAKER_08]: Latson Road LATS someone road and howl Michigan. [SPEAKER_08]: And that is four, eight, eight, four, three. [SPEAKER_08]: At that particular USA to go. [SPEAKER_08]: Jesse had pitched us at Saturday at six p.m. [SPEAKER_08]: Thursday, August, twenty-eighth. [SPEAKER_08]: That is a holiday weekend for everybody else. [SPEAKER_08]: I think we got a gig in Columbus the next day. [SPEAKER_08]: At a bar, I think it's at Johnny's tavern, but I'll confirm with you later on that.

[SPEAKER_08]: This one is locked and loaded. [SPEAKER_08]: Shout out to Frank for doing this here. [SPEAKER_08]: Frank LeBar works for us here. [SPEAKER_09]: He does all our chains. [SPEAKER_09]: old school army dirt bag. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah Frank. [SPEAKER_09]: He's like if you think about a dude who served in the eighties or nineties. [SPEAKER_09]: It's that dude. [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm telling you whatever weird idea of him you haven't your head is precisely who the man is.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, just why we fucking hired him. [SPEAKER_08]: And we love them dude. [SPEAKER_08]: We love Frank. [SPEAKER_08]: He does an excellent job. [SPEAKER_08]: He's the one that got us into all the circle caves down there. [SPEAKER_08]: He's a fucking hustler. [SPEAKER_08]: I love that dude. [SPEAKER_08]: Sure is. [SPEAKER_08]: So he got us into all these USA goes and he calls and he says, Hey, [SPEAKER_08]: Did you guys mean what you said?

[SPEAKER_08]: And I think we're in Pennsylvania when we told him. [SPEAKER_09]: We always offer. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not us. [SPEAKER_09]: We're not the reason it doesn't happen. [SPEAKER_09]: Correct. [SPEAKER_09]: It's all say about it. [SPEAKER_08]: And I told him and he goes, All right, if I can pull it off, we can pull it off. [SPEAKER_08]: So Jesse had a good suggestion. [SPEAKER_08]: And when we shoot there, we shoot it on black and white like clerks.

[SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: So we've never shot inside of a game. [SPEAKER_09]: Can we get Gary and Joel to stand outside and like James on pop for the whole thing? [SPEAKER_09]: We should he looks they look similar now. [SPEAKER_09]: It's that would that's not a bad idea. [SPEAKER_09]: It's really funny that you're doing another street. [SPEAKER_08]: Did they do they did Detroit as a street. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and yeah, so August twenty eight six p.m. [SPEAKER_08]: USA to go.

[SPEAKER_08]: It is a shell station. [SPEAKER_08]: This is obviously this is the convenience store attached to it. [SPEAKER_08]: We've been doing this show live inside of there and because of that [SPEAKER_08]: They have taken on the tall boys, which is going to be dangerous that night for everybody who shows up. [SPEAKER_08]: That means you can drink the tall boys. [SPEAKER_08]: We are also running a special on those tall boys. [SPEAKER_08]: It's going to make us even more dangerous.

[SPEAKER_08]: I believe it's two for six. [SPEAKER_08]: So that's going to be fucking nineteen point two ounces a can. [SPEAKER_08]: Times two for six dollars, dude. [SPEAKER_08]: Holy shit. [SPEAKER_08]: How are we, I mean, we allowed just a cooking eat in the store. [SPEAKER_08]: I would imagine, right? [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to be having some hot pockets and shit. [SPEAKER_09]: My understanding is that this is American we do whatever the fuck we want. [SPEAKER_09]: I think so.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So what I thought. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: That's what I thought too. [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, here we are. [SPEAKER_08]: So we're doing it there. [SPEAKER_08]: Join us on the twenty eighth. [SPEAKER_08]: Twenty ninth, I believe is gonna be a Johnny's tavern in Columbus, Ohio, confirm it with you. [SPEAKER_08]: And that'll be our Friday afternoon show. [SPEAKER_08]: We'll just drive down for Michigan, pre-game and all that other stuff.

[SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, we will be inside the convenience store, which is awesome. [SPEAKER_08]: Now, the tall boys, as we're becoming a Michigan, as we're becoming for all the circle caves around the University of Alabama, Auburn, and then all throughout the Panhandle. [SPEAKER_08]: That deal will exist for all of them. [SPEAKER_08]: I believe it's gonna be two for seven.

[SPEAKER_08]: If those go well, [SPEAKER_08]: And I think Frank said we got either a hundred or two hundred sources of circle case on top of the USA to go. [SPEAKER_08]: That could open up nationally for a six thousand circle case, which would be massive. [SPEAKER_08]: You guys watch Shark Tank, you know, they give you advances on peos. [SPEAKER_08]: So please go and buy out all of these fucking tall boys, Pennsylvania. [SPEAKER_08]: You were also on this list.

[SPEAKER_08]: The tall boys are in the Penn State camps themselves. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if I have one. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I got one right here. [SPEAKER_08]: These will be available in tall boys dude, in stores across the entire state of Pennsylvania. [SPEAKER_08]: Right when college football season starts, so holy shit. [SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be fun and it's going to be dangerous, but we'll be there. [SPEAKER_08]: And I can't wait for this to happen.

[SPEAKER_08]: If you're looking for a store right now, go to heartyfseltzer.com, enter your city or zip on the store locator. [SPEAKER_08]: It'll take you to the closest location near and shoe. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, they sell up very, very quickly and we're making more and more and more and more and more and more. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, and some people say that's a great problem to have.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, however, uh, your order starts to get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and, uh, and it is starting to get shocking right now. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, we're having a blast, but holy shit, dude. [SPEAKER_08]: If you're out there, man, you know what fucking rich armclairs, something who owns an oil though? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, damn, dude. [SPEAKER_08]: This is a lot of fucking cans we're making right now.

[SPEAKER_08]: I think Dan, because I got a meeting at four thirty here in nine minutes and answer this. [SPEAKER_08]: I think we've crossed the four million canmark. [SPEAKER_08]: which is pretty insane. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: That's wild. [SPEAKER_08]: It is. [SPEAKER_08]: We appreciate all the supports and we'll see you live in Michigan on August, twenty-eighth, Columbus, Ohio, on August, twenty-ninth.

[SPEAKER_08]: And then we'll see you at the University of Oregon for the White Out Gain on September, twenty-eighth. [SPEAKER_08]: And we'll be tailgating right outside of that stadium as well with the tall boys. [SPEAKER_08]: Support us and support the show by going on. [SPEAKER_08]: HardaFCeltzer.com today. [SPEAKER_08]: But everybody's they're cold metal. [SPEAKER_09]: Everybody's different. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm working on a book right now call how to drink and do drugs like an adult, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: And it's a primer on how to. [SPEAKER_05]: Are you actually? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I'm not kidding. [SPEAKER_09]: I've been working on it for a couple of years now. [SPEAKER_09]: Just doing research. [SPEAKER_09]: It's kind of funny, but also there's good information there.

[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of it now is about psychedelics, so because everybody's kind of into it now and a lot of people [SPEAKER_09]: And this is something that happens with people who are just in therapy for their whole lives. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a difference in my opinion between Freudian psychology and Adlerian psychology for familiar with the two. [SPEAKER_09]: Obviously everybody knows who Freud is.

[SPEAKER_09]: There's a guy named Adler who's a psychotherapy was based on not being a bitch, right? [SPEAKER_09]: So Freud says, [SPEAKER_09]: You've got a problem, somebody else's responsible, probably your mom, and you've got to deal with it for the rest of your life. [SPEAKER_09]: And Ados, you've got a problem, it's your fucking problem that's time to deal with it and grow up. [SPEAKER_09]: That's the short version of those two things.

[SPEAKER_09]: So if you go into any kind of solution pattern with the idea that there's an external tormentor who's responsible, then you personally never take responsibility for your own action. [SPEAKER_05]: You're just the victim forever. [SPEAKER_09]: So you're walking around, you trip, oh fucking somebody must have done that to me. [SPEAKER_09]: No, maybe you should pay attention asshole, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: So if you go into these psychedelic therapies with the intent to apply your own effort to your own problem, to solve it, then you'll do well. [SPEAKER_09]: And if you don't, you'll become one of these people who stays on for the rest of your fucking life. [SPEAKER_09]: That's my opinion. [SPEAKER_09]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I do. [SPEAKER_08]: And it all depends on the person.

[SPEAKER_08]: Like, anybody, everybody comes on the shows, got one thing or another. [SPEAKER_08]: Like, we've had guys literally come back from doing eye-begining like two weeks before. [SPEAKER_08]: and then tell their experience in the show where I wasker whatever it is, and it depends on the person. [SPEAKER_08]: Shit, I've got friends that it is completely changed their lives, and they've been great ever since. [SPEAKER_08]: How did we even start talking about this?

[SPEAKER_05]: We were supposed to be reading the formal statement coming on. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, that was like we should get our lady from fucking band on the show. [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, drugs is going to come up. [SPEAKER_08]: We're going to get into fucking five sums here in a second. [SPEAKER_08]: But did you find that statement from home girl? [SPEAKER_08]: It did not be right here. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Bob read that. [SPEAKER_08]: Read it. [SPEAKER_05]: Read it. [SPEAKER_05]: Read it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Read it. [SPEAKER_05]: Read it. [SPEAKER_08]: Read it. [SPEAKER_08]: Read it. [SPEAKER_08]: Read it. [SPEAKER_02]: Read it. [SPEAKER_02]: Read it. [SPEAKER_02]: Read it. [SPEAKER_02]: Read it. [SPEAKER_02]: It has come to my attention and apparently to the intention of half the internet that my husband, Andrew Byron, has made certain choices.

[SPEAKER_02]: Public ones under stadium lights during a cold play concert of and you not typically associated with infidelity, but here we are. [SPEAKER_02]: Let me be perfectly clear. [SPEAKER_02]: I am not issuing the statement in defense, nor in heartbreak. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm issuing it in power in precision in silk gloves and sharpened wit. [SPEAKER_02]: I will not be engaging in performative forgiveness nor am I interested in the optics of grace.

[SPEAKER_02]: What Andy has done is not just humiliating, it has been all common, a man of ambition brought down by his own astonishing lack of imagination. [SPEAKER_02]: I have retained counsel, I have reviewed holdings, I have reallocated what was once ours into what is now very cleanly mine. [SPEAKER_05]: So sick.

[SPEAKER_02]: I am not spiraling, I am ascending, and while Andy may have quoted Coldplay in his statement, I will simply say when the lights went out, I saw everything clearly, to those who expect tears, I don't cry for clowns, I schedule a document I rebuild. [SPEAKER_02]: This is not revenge, it is refinement, and he will feel it in the silence that follows. [SPEAKER_02]: A round of applause. [SPEAKER_05]: That needs to be the premise of your book. [SPEAKER_08]: That's some Adler type stuff.

[SPEAKER_08]: Just like that is the best written statement I've ever heard from anyone ever. [SPEAKER_08]: Unbelievable. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Wow. [SPEAKER_09]: If Hillary had said that when Bill fucked that fat girl. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, she may have become proud. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I was waiting no for like like Martin political.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I was waiting for just that last line to be, you know, what's [SPEAKER_08]: I'll see you in a sky full of stars. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, like just one cold place song to end it, you know? [SPEAKER_08]: Don't worry. [SPEAKER_08]: I will fix you. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll speak on something where you're just like, all right, great. [SPEAKER_09]: Speaking of songs, you guys have some new ones. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, come out.

[SPEAKER_06]: The record is called a place after this one. [SPEAKER_06]: It came out in March. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_06]: What's your favorite will play it on the show today? [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, I like them all, but I mean, the current one, I think I'd like to play shame. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Now, does the label pick this to you guys pick this? [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, we pick the singles. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, singles.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Like if there's, it's cool. [SPEAKER_05]: It's cool. [SPEAKER_05]: It's cool. [SPEAKER_05]: For sure. [SPEAKER_05]: If they're like, we think we really want to get behind this one. [SPEAKER_05]: Our job as the artist is to write twelve songs or ten songs and love all of them. [SPEAKER_05]: So it doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: You know.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: interesting, because usually there's a fight of like, hey, you want this to happen around for fucking a while. [SPEAKER_07]: It's different now because labels and people that make more money than you that are paid to know algorithmically what happens. [SPEAKER_07]: It's so confusing now and it's also like [SPEAKER_07]: You just gotta make a bunch of shit you believe in and love and let the cards fall where they may.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: You can't do that. [SPEAKER_07]: If you try to crack the code on algorithms and streaming and what's gonna work, like you might as well get a different job. [SPEAKER_05]: Don't speak enough. [SPEAKER_05]: We're thinking about making a video for this song. [SPEAKER_05]: If you guys like it, he's done about shooting guns. [SPEAKER_05]: We should get some. [SPEAKER_05]: low stuff up for them. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yeah, well, there's my our other host.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's just kind of guns all over here. [SPEAKER_09]: We can do whatever. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, DMT guns podcast and same magazine. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, magazine, dude. [SPEAKER_08]: That's not you're doing what they call some clips, but yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, shit. [SPEAKER_09]: This is come up. [SPEAKER_09]: Those things you mentioned are just like kind of normal here. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: It's always happened all of a sudden.

[SPEAKER_08]: We shot. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we blew some shit back there a few weeks ago, so here. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Wow. [SPEAKER_08]: That's somebody did. [SPEAKER_08]: All right. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, allegedly allegedly. [SPEAKER_08]: Allegedly. [SPEAKER_08]: Allegedly. [SPEAKER_08]: Go ahead and play. [SPEAKER_08]: Which one do you want? [SPEAKER_08]: Shame. [SPEAKER_08]: Shame. [SPEAKER_08]: Shame. [SPEAKER_08]: Shame. [SPEAKER_03]: Shame. [SPEAKER_03]: Shame.

[SPEAKER_03]: Box. [SPEAKER_03]: Shame. [SPEAKER_09]: I still can't believe that's the same broad. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll fuck you, dude. [SPEAKER_08]: It's already over what, a million streams ready, is it? [SPEAKER_08]: I have no idea. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, point six, five. [SPEAKER_08]: That's the key, that's more about that. [UNKNOWN]: It's great, that's energy. [SPEAKER_08]: Any audits in there? [SPEAKER_08]: Fuck yeah, dude, come on! [SPEAKER_08]: No reverb, no audits in there, dude.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No audits in there, dude [SPEAKER_08]: This is when I like I see somebody in the treadmill match to me and I crank it up to like eight point three and I start going faster than them pop them up. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and then I'll be in the hospital next time. [SPEAKER_08]: This shit makes me want to run through a grip wall. [SPEAKER_07]: That's the idea. [SPEAKER_08]: How do you scream right there? [SPEAKER_08]: How can they still do that? [SPEAKER_09]: That's a channel?

[SPEAKER_09]: That's right. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, very lifetime. [SPEAKER_05]: He's literally the best. [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry to do that. [SPEAKER_07]: I think he's the best at it. [SPEAKER_05]: We don't do anything for it, so I don't feel bad for agonizing. [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's the best screamer. [SPEAKER_08]: Has he ever lost his voice? [SPEAKER_07]: I mean he lost his voice when he gets sick. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't lose it either unless you're sick ever.

[SPEAKER_08]: So did he with himself thought or did he use that vocal code? [SPEAKER_07]: He did a coach later in life. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: As more of like I think a re-approach. [SPEAKER_07]: Like a normal name Melissa Cross. [SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to make it windy. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all those guys. [SPEAKER_07]: That's good. [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's a lot of it is about maintenance as you get far off. [SPEAKER_07]: That's the thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: She has a thing called um [SPEAKER_07]: the zen of screaming and it's changed people's lives Randy slipknot like it's a it's a maintenance because Corey went back and forth to was still in selling and back to slipknot. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: So I don't know that you can take time off from that. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, the way the guy doing that right now is forty two years old. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: So it's like it it it it it a certain plate. [SPEAKER_07]: It a certain time becomes about maintenance and you want to keep. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to keep that. [SPEAKER_09]: That's also like anything else those vocal folds. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a muscle right here. [SPEAKER_08]: Your voice changes over time. [SPEAKER_08]: We've been doing this for ten years.

[SPEAKER_08]: If you go back to the first episode of Drinking Bros, my voice is higher than this. [SPEAKER_08]: It just keeps getting deeper by the years. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, that's because I made you take testosterone. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that too. [SPEAKER_08]: But, uh, you'll be honest. [SPEAKER_09]: We're all getting shots at testosterone even the woman before you leave. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And that's America Goddamn. [SPEAKER_08]: It's just playing games here.

[SPEAKER_08]: And I just, I just lost my virginity last summer. [SPEAKER_08]: So it feels great. [SPEAKER_05]: Aaron doesn't even know about the sexiest. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: He was a really nice guy. [SPEAKER_09]: He was very general. [SPEAKER_08]: He was a general lover. [SPEAKER_09]: He seems like a general leader. [SPEAKER_05]: What we got tips here. [SPEAKER_05]: We are the bar. [SPEAKER_08]: What? [SPEAKER_08]: My baby walls. [SPEAKER_09]: Burking.

[SPEAKER_08]: You guys like Shibuzi? [SPEAKER_07]: You and he writes kind of. [SPEAKER_07]: You write kind of shit. [SPEAKER_08]: I like Shibuzi. [SPEAKER_07]: You cannot deny some of those songs, man. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, she is fucked. [SPEAKER_08]: The new album's dope. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm listening to it. [SPEAKER_08]: The one with him in my favorite on the one is a guy named Paul Coffin.

[SPEAKER_08]: that's a lot of this like hip hop country mashup from on on the whole spectrum we are back to the role like he's a lot of the guy's the guy [SPEAKER_07]: We're back in the nineties. [SPEAKER_07]: We think about Tim and girl had the thing with Nellie. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like we're doing it again. [SPEAKER_07]: Do you know why? [SPEAKER_07]: I wish I had the answer for this. [SPEAKER_08]: To solve this.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I went when she boozey was holding me afterwards. [SPEAKER_08]: One was my first interracial experience. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't talk. [SPEAKER_08]: Two, I did lose my in-over-genuity. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my first genuity. [SPEAKER_08]: Shibuzi and allegedly. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why it's happening. [SPEAKER_05]: I get a real point. [SPEAKER_08]: The real point is the bands, today, the one that really isn't any.

[SPEAKER_08]: Therefore, like my kids, for all three kids, we could run the dog, that's a whole other pole with those.

[SPEAKER_08]: With that there is no man my eleven year old when we get the car like last night we finished football practice like a thirty I got serious XM I got a little all the shit in the car for just all the podcasts we host he wants to listen to lithium lithium on serious XM is all just ninety's literally two thousand [SPEAKER_08]: That's it and it's like why and and I finally just asked him I was like no offense.

[SPEAKER_08]: I know every one of these songs I would say because that was my era and I go Why are you and he goes dead? [SPEAKER_08]: We don't have we don't really have any new bands I mean you got possible loan Who else who else is new? [SPEAKER_09]: We mean when you say bands, I mean like three or five dudes. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and not three or five dudes, three or five dudes. [SPEAKER_05]: They can throw in higher guns, like our collaborator. [SPEAKER_05]: But who is the band?

[SPEAKER_07]: Every band in our genre right now. [SPEAKER_07]: I can't say, I can't say it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can't say it. [SPEAKER_07]: I would say, is it, is it generous to say, ninety percent? [SPEAKER_07]: I would say ninety percent of the large bands in our genre. [SPEAKER_07]: are one person. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a singer. [SPEAKER_07]: And then it's a bunch of hired guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Even if it made to look like it isn't.

[SPEAKER_08]: And by the way, when you see them, you know that that singer, you're looking at them and you're like, I got to leave it any time and then just pick up any other session musicians and be fine. [SPEAKER_08]: Fact. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And then they instead of writing with their bandmates, they go to LA and they have producers of other roles. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: They're songs with them.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you know if they're for living. [SPEAKER_09]: That's one of the old school hipster style though, like all the rap used to be like that. [SPEAKER_09]: Other than Drake, everybody else was going to some producer to get their beats written. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I guess Dr. and Kanye are like guys that wrap pretty certain of these bits, but most dudes don't. [SPEAKER_09]: But Dr. Dr. Dr. and it goes right. [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, for the lyrics.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I put collaboration in a hip-hop world is different than literally going to the same five people to write and mix your stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: And then just being like, what base player can I get to play everything here in real life? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Where's this soul coming from? [SPEAKER_09]: Unless it's like a group of people who have had the same shared experience, good or bad.

[SPEAKER_09]: that's putting all that shit on the paper and then putting it out in the world. [SPEAKER_09]: Right now it's now I hear a bunch of soul is noise. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean that's or or these weird AI like you go to soon know and you create your own songs. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean we come from a world of distinguishable. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah we come from the world of sweaty of a sweaty storage unit literally. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we were talking about that last night at dinner.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, the pansy might not even know. [SPEAKER_05]: No of, but like, a band called Norma Jean. [SPEAKER_09]: Love Norma Jean. [SPEAKER_05]: The chariot, beloved hopes fall. [SPEAKER_05]: Bro, we grew up with the last [SPEAKER_05]: bands. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And so and all those bands are still sicker than anything I see today. [SPEAKER_08]: And by the way, all so all of our kids now are going back and listen to this stuff because is the new bands.

[SPEAKER_09]: Why I don't know if the kids are new bringing back Norma Jean and the delinger escape plan, but no. [SPEAKER_08]: But I was listening, you guys can wait over here and like, you know, this song from the early two thousands that I had heard in a long time, right? [SPEAKER_08]: Sure. [SPEAKER_08]: And just to, you know, to get hyped up for the fucking show today. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And it was like, I mean, no lie.

[SPEAKER_08]: The first time I went with him with my mind, it was like, God damn, I missed this. [SPEAKER_08]: Like, we don't have it anymore. [SPEAKER_05]: There is a band called Static Dress. [SPEAKER_05]: That's out right now. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_05]: We took them on our whole tour from England. [SPEAKER_05]: They remind me of us when we were just ready to deal. [SPEAKER_08]: So for me, there's a guy named Barnes Courtney that I think he's been on the show numerous times.

[SPEAKER_08]: He can be the biggest, in my opinion, could be the biggest rock star should be higher, where should he? [SPEAKER_08]: I texted them all the time and so the walk talks is the thing. [SPEAKER_08]: When you see him alive, it is his last day on earth. [SPEAKER_08]: He has covered drenched in sweats. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't give a fuck if it's ten people or ten thousand. [SPEAKER_08]: That's how you build any of the best looking funniest dude on the planet. [SPEAKER_08]: It's like why?

[SPEAKER_08]: And it's with him. [SPEAKER_08]: He just got really unlucky. [SPEAKER_08]: He had a huge hit album. [SPEAKER_08]: It was just fucking banger after Bangor after Bangor. [SPEAKER_08]: It was right in front of COVID and the label had, I mean, dished out this huge worldwide tour for him and he was gonna be the dude and then the world shut down.

[SPEAKER_08]: And I was at H.E.B. [SPEAKER_08]: buying some hardy of cells for the studio the other day and I heard his song and the grocery store and it was from that time right before COVID. [SPEAKER_08]: And I was like, [SPEAKER_08]: Fuck. [SPEAKER_08]: That was a massive song and he should have been. [SPEAKER_08]: He's still, by the way, his new music is great. [SPEAKER_08]: He still should be the guy. [SPEAKER_05]: And he's not for sure. [SPEAKER_05]: He's your island.

[SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever seen them live? [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever seen a late night video of future islands? [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: That singer, I believe. [SPEAKER_05]: We were talking about this. [SPEAKER_08]: We're on Patreon. [SPEAKER_08]: Fuck it. [SPEAKER_05]: Pop it up. [SPEAKER_08]: Is it on YouTube? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Future islands late night, seasons change.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: And by the way, I love hearing other people's favorites because then it helps me discover new favorites. [SPEAKER_09]: Not you can't just like have your favorites patronize them as well. [SPEAKER_09]: If you like fucking Norma Jean and the Dilderscape plan and fucking on earth and under oath and people like these that came up up in the early two thousands listen to them on Spotify and other people will see that start making that music support them.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's how fucking works. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, supporting, letting the algorithm choose your taste. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he starts and by the way, this, this also helps because we just did this with Riff Raff and his buddy, Doc Bakker. [SPEAKER_08]: Was his name? [SPEAKER_05]: You had Riff Raff here. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, we did a music video with him for the, for the, for the, for the, sell, sir, and everything, right?

[SPEAKER_08]: And it's the weirdest song of all time, but I love it. [SPEAKER_08]: And the, the hook is really catchy. [SPEAKER_08]: So we've been putting it in all of our Instagram videos. [SPEAKER_08]: So that way it just keep kind of keeps catching on where it's like a lot of fucking know that song. [SPEAKER_08]: I fucking know that song and it's even in sketches like we'll put it in there and it's just like just the chorus and you're like I fucking know some of that stuff is coming back.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, some of that stuff is coming back like the new trend movie so in the trend legacy movie it was all a Daphpunk. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's time it's Trent Resner did the whole soundtrack for that shit. [SPEAKER_09]: He's coming back. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm telling him. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I agree. [SPEAKER_08]: I wish Daphpunk would jump another I'm speaking with. [SPEAKER_09]: They retouched [SPEAKER_09]: For the eighth time.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, they're ninety years old so like it makes nobody knows I know cuz there could be anybody underneath There could be like the blooming group Yeah, could be me the blooming group Me too. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's a bias. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay What do we what do we got here play? [SPEAKER_02]: Which do you want the one on the late night show? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you tell me it's the bottom the second one Don't use the late night show.

[SPEAKER_08]: They'll ding us for that, but just don't play to the audience. [SPEAKER_02]: It's on patreon. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, cool play [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it's Letterman. [SPEAKER_06]: It's Letterman's. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Watch this dude's energy. [SPEAKER_01]: If this gets pulled down, video wise, we'll read the post on Patreon, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome future islands. [SPEAKER_07]: Even if you don't like this music, look at this guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Where's the out of? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: But the same thing. [SPEAKER_05]: I thought this man was going to blow up. [SPEAKER_05]: They have like two more out of this. [SPEAKER_05]: And they've just, they're waiting to play. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: So cool thing to know about this pair out of Greenville, North Carolina. [SPEAKER_02]: Really? [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I feel like inside.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just too embarrassed to act like that. [SPEAKER_05]: That guy rips. [UNKNOWN]: And you can tell he's not trying to be cool. [SPEAKER_06]: I can't tell if this dude is like thirty or seven. [SPEAKER_05]: I know you can't tell. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, he kind of looks like Kevin Spacey light. [SPEAKER_05]: Mine is the you know. [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's what, this is what people crave.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, they crave reality in music, and they don't even, they might even know they do. [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, we have, you know, bands like Turn style, the hardcore stuff about, you're good. [SPEAKER_05]: The hardcore scene to me is actually not something that we participate in or are invited in, but everything I see coming from the actual, like, hardcore scene, not metal, not metal, or not warp turn.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: There's still real shit pop in there. [SPEAKER_05]: Not loose. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Not loose and dope. [SPEAKER_05]: But even then, they're like in our world. [SPEAKER_05]: But you have like bands like Twinstacks. [SPEAKER_05]: And then you have these like FYA Fest and Tangel Dust. [SPEAKER_05]: There's just so many like dope hardcore bands. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like hardcore. [SPEAKER_05]: I think might be the last.

[SPEAKER_08]: honest genre at scale and the posters are the few where in our world everyone's a poser and the real bands are like the few so will this change or do you think everybody's going to start using AI to create shit because I said this about a year and a half ago in the show that I thought

[SPEAKER_08]: Somebody out there is going to be the first to create a hit AI movie on YouTube and it will explode and they'll get massively rich off of it and then people try to replicate its music wise they're already doing it right now yes and the bands crossed I think a billion streams on Spotify and it was a fake made up band from the sixties and they put fake album cover and everything else and then a bunch of people on Reddit were able to uncover that it was AI but were there so it's like

[SPEAKER_08]: What do you do? [SPEAKER_08]: Because I listen to these interviews with a connier or a post-malone and they're embracing AI, whether like, yeah, it's going to improve my vocals and I sound perfect. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, we use it too. [SPEAKER_07]: We use it the software for certain things. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, like in the studio, you use it for like mastering programs. [SPEAKER_07]: There are things that I use it for. [SPEAKER_05]: But organs or AI plug-ins.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you don't use AI. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I'm talking about AI. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, this is the way I, so the plug-in is. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, got a particle of AI. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So it uses AI, you can program, you can program a lot of people into this. [SPEAKER_09]: But even for live shows, you can program your tracks beforehand. [SPEAKER_09]: So track your voice and keep you on tone and shit like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: We use it in Nashville, so if you're like, [SPEAKER_07]: a big piece of my national life is something called pitching. [SPEAKER_07]: So you write a song with two other writers and you want to pitch it to Morgan Wallen. [SPEAKER_07]: And you can literally, I can sing into this microphone and I am Morgan Wallen. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_05]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_07]: And I use it for stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_06]: But honestly, you can sell music faster. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's you're essentially recording the song for them. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_08]: And then giving it to you. [SPEAKER_07]: I would never show it to anyone. [SPEAKER_07]: To me, that's a private thing that I use inside of the business. [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm not [SPEAKER_07]: If I'm honest, like a really honest, I don't give a shit about AI.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like in terms of, you have to care about it because you're a citizen of the world, but in art, in art sense, I don't give a shit. [SPEAKER_08]: But if you're trying to sell it, because publishing rights are everything, and you make a shit ton of money. [SPEAKER_08]: If you're trying to sell a song to Morgan Wallen, the best way to do it is to write that song. [SPEAKER_08]: I agree. [SPEAKER_07]: I agree. [SPEAKER_07]: I agree. [SPEAKER_08]: And then give it to him.

[SPEAKER_07]: So he can say, this is what I would sound like singing this song. [SPEAKER_07]: Of course. [SPEAKER_08]: because like let's take Hollywood, for example, like selling a TV show. [SPEAKER_08]: It is, they don't want to read the scripts. [SPEAKER_08]: They just don't unless there's massive actors attached to whatever.

[SPEAKER_08]: However, if you shoot it and give them a trailer or you give them the actual show, then it takes all the creativity and the worry out of it where they're like, great. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, by this. [SPEAKER_08]: Because I already know what this, this is. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you have a feel. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I see with music for me though, it's like, [SPEAKER_07]: AI can only take from what's there.

[SPEAKER_07]: So with music for me, I just feel a piece about the AI thing because I literally my goal in life, whether it's a country song and under oath song or a fucking whatever, is to make something that day that's never been made. [SPEAKER_08]: And I love that at the end of the day. [SPEAKER_08]: That's why you wake up every single morning. [SPEAKER_05]: But there's also going to be a huge cultural shift too, don't you think? [SPEAKER_05]: Like I think.

[SPEAKER_05]: We know the top three or four mixers in metal, personally, and they're unbelievable at their job. [SPEAKER_05]: They're so good that everyone goes to them. [SPEAKER_05]: And now our entire genre just sounds like this, the same. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, because it's all, you know. [SPEAKER_05]: And then you're gonna have like a bunch vague Nirvana moment, turn styles, you know, a grunge.

[SPEAKER_05]: But I have a rational example, but like people are going to want a human experience, because once everything's just, [SPEAKER_05]: ones and zeros. [SPEAKER_05]: We're just going to be over it. [SPEAKER_08]: So even though Joel Doc last night, he couldn't figure out who he was and he goes, dude, Zeppelin was big at the time. [SPEAKER_08]: And Zeppelin saw. [SPEAKER_08]: I wanted to be Zeppelin. [SPEAKER_08]: They had a band, he was in a band called Attila and his voice.

[SPEAKER_08]: He could make sound like Robert Plant. [SPEAKER_08]: So like, when you hear the songs, you're just like, oh, and you're just like, man, I'm just copying what I heard because it's the same people, like you said. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And everybody's trying to do the same thing at the same time. [SPEAKER_08]: I agree with you.

[SPEAKER_08]: Who, if somebody can break out of this right now and creates like a Nirvana or something new that really shocks the system, you could fucking explode because kids are looking for it. [SPEAKER_08]: We're all looking for it. [SPEAKER_05]: It's sneakily feels like that's why post and jelly are so big. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Because they're honest and they can't have nowhere and like, they're not [SPEAKER_05]: going to Metro Boomin Moomin. [SPEAKER_05]: Like that's my quote.

[SPEAKER_05]: And Metro Boomin's the shit. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: You can't take shade. [SPEAKER_05]: But when a guy in a laptop pops on SoundCloud and you know his name. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And you can just follow the journey. [SPEAKER_05]: That's more exciting than the next little blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_05]: Right in the squad. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, people need a story. [SPEAKER_07]: They do. [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know that you get story to the depth.

[SPEAKER_07]: that he's talking about. [SPEAKER_08]: I think that guy who popped out of some people comment plant all over Anthony who popped out and was telling stories and every single song. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think he's a plan. [SPEAKER_08]: Good. [SPEAKER_08]: Delco does tell you do. [SPEAKER_00]: That's not me. [SPEAKER_08]: You and Jesse think Oliver Anthony seems sick and medium build. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh fuck with medium bill.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know medium bill medium bill the album country on the way home cry. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you will cry your eyes really. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, but that guy because he was telling stories and he will pop up anywhere and just sing live and I think that's also very very impressive where he's just like great. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't get the fuck where we are [SPEAKER_08]: Just turn the microphone on and I'll do it. [SPEAKER_08]: Um, is uh, is awesome.

[SPEAKER_08]: But then that guy in my opinion just got trapped in a world of like, whole fuck. [SPEAKER_08]: I was in the backyard in West Virginia with my dog. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I, I listen to him on a podcast recently in Rogan. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: And I did think it was interesting that like, he didn't, he didn't do what I thought he would do. [SPEAKER_07]: He's been a Rogan twice. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep. [SPEAKER_07]: And the first time Rogan was like,

[SPEAKER_07]: don't take the fucking money eight million yeah he's like don't do it he didn't do it no and I do I have massive respect for that because I think that he's trying to preserve what got him here which is who he is so I have to get him all the props because I don't know that I don't know if I could if I was grew up in bum fuck wherever yeah and someone offered me eight million dollars from a song that I wrote in on my couch if I would be able to say no [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And by the way, something to that. [SPEAKER_08]: I love his music for real. [SPEAKER_08]: It was just a weird story, a weird time. [SPEAKER_08]: And I don't know what's going to happen that guy. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: He's so talented that even if obscurity happens, I think he wins. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And when you're that guy, you could play the mothership to three, four, five hundred people. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what he did the other.

[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, and literally crush. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he did. [SPEAKER_05]: Like comedians can make so much money in two hundred sea rooms. [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know how much money it takes for our twelve-person bus six-person man? [SPEAKER_05]: With management, which is why nobody wants to be in bands? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, what about one of my best friends is Jason Rao from Breaking Badge, I'm sure you guys know. [SPEAKER_05]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_05]: I love Jason.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_09]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_09]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_09]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_09]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_05]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_05]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_05]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_05]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_09]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_09]: I love Jason. [SPEAKER_09]: He's like he's like he's told me the stories about all the shit that they carry. [SPEAKER_09]: There's like four semis just where I know they're.

[SPEAKER_09]: The semis just for merch. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sure they might know. [SPEAKER_09]: If something happens, it's not a force mixture and we're on the hook for that concert. [SPEAKER_09]: We have to pay them like three hundred grand for not to show. [SPEAKER_08]: What's your product budget? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, just to just to put to turn the lights on the stadium or the, or the, how much of it. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was like, stuff size clubs.

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I, I, I mean, I, I, Barney, Barney's Courtney is where L. S. Oh, stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: Roughly, probably, a hundred, fifty, two hundred thousand a tour. [SPEAKER_08]: A tour? [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So if we grow some million bucks, we, we barely make a teacher salary. [SPEAKER_08]: Got it. [SPEAKER_08]: And that's very good. [SPEAKER_05]: You have a lot of losses in the room. [SPEAKER_05]: This flight, this show got canceled, rained out.

[SPEAKER_05]: What have you talked about here? [SPEAKER_07]: Buses and semi trucks, you're, you're now you're in trouble. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: And then you want to deal with some of the Tampa theater. [SPEAKER_05]: Same size rooms that we do. [SPEAKER_05]: One microphone. [SPEAKER_05]: One mic. [SPEAKER_05]: Fifty dollars tickets to show. [SPEAKER_05]: Here's a figure. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, he just made a half a million dollars.

[SPEAKER_05]: Get that in a week. [SPEAKER_07]: Get our twenty eighth anniversary. [SPEAKER_07]: Fifty a show. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: We do our twentyth anniversary.

[SPEAKER_07]: last year of our first big album and the bus for that tour was a quarter of a million dollars or one bus for ten more ten weeks yeah that's where we're at so for two hundred thousand dollars just for us to arrive somewhere yeah and then you have a truck which is also six figures so we had a semi on that really I mean really for at eight week tour you're you're close to a half a million dollars to move the people that before you do anything and a Benjamin that would be five to ten million

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's wild man. [SPEAKER_07]: It's wild. [SPEAKER_07]: It's wild. [SPEAKER_09]: It's wild. [SPEAKER_09]: And then with those live nation ones, there's been some hiccups because they were building all these new venues or buying them up. [SPEAKER_09]: But then COVID happens. [SPEAKER_09]: Every thing gets shut down. [SPEAKER_09]: We came here from Wilmington and they built a big ass went right on the water downtown. [SPEAKER_09]: Wilmington, North Carolina.

[SPEAKER_09]: Now they're finally starting to catch back up. [SPEAKER_09]: Are you guys, maybe guys don't anything with them yet? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Who live nation? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, of course. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: They're the ones out there that are kind of buttoned up on all this stuff right now. [SPEAKER_09]: So maybe you have the most. [SPEAKER_05]: What sucks about live nation is when you try to go indie, you get screwed.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Because they're a well-oiled machine. [SPEAKER_05]: They're the advanced. [SPEAKER_09]: They're Amazon now for fun. [SPEAKER_05]: They're touring. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, it's like, yeah, if you have morals, you're like, this capitalist thing, like, we got to get off Amazon. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's buy local homegrown glass, blown, blah, and then you're back on Amazon the next day because it's just two interior.

[SPEAKER_07]: Here's the other thing with live nation that nobody in bands talks about. [SPEAKER_05]: I am not trying to be an asshole, but we have somewhere to actually be. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, do you guys have a show tonight? [SPEAKER_05]: We have a poster as at five. [SPEAKER_05]: Look at you. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it's possible. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, you fucking fag. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I did coach football last night.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was at four in three weather. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying wrap it up. [SPEAKER_05]: I just want to be mindful because I don't want to. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a half of a year. [SPEAKER_09]: If you're as is at five, you'll spend fifteen to thirty minutes in the front room during served orders first anyway. [SPEAKER_07]: Don't be late because you don't want to miss this. [SPEAKER_07]: I want to finish this up. [SPEAKER_07]: But I think bands don't say this.

[SPEAKER_07]: because it is cool and it is invoked and it is right in many instances to say we don't you know we want to do the mom and pop thing we want to play the local venue we want to do this we want to do our own show you do that for one tour you're going to be begging for live nation because those places a lot of times are [SPEAKER_07]: Understood. [SPEAKER_07]: No shower. [SPEAKER_07]: No shower. [SPEAKER_07]: There's no fucking place to plug the bus in toilet. [SPEAKER_07]: It's crazy.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's so live nation. [SPEAKER_07]: What they did and what he's talking about is they bought the shells of a lot of these mom and pop venues, which I'm not saying is right, but they bought the shells and they read it him and they're fucking beautiful. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, that's what they invested the money.

[SPEAKER_05]: And then they charge you twenty five dollars a ticket on top of the ticket and this to be for the convenience for the convenience of what exactly you just sent me a barcode. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm literally working on a hip-hop project with my friend right now and I told him the first tour. [SPEAKER_05]: We do I want it to be called literally the convenience fees tour and everything's just fifteen dollars.

[SPEAKER_05]: That would be real show less than the convenience fees to our live nation show. [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's brilliant, but that goes back like live nation all this you have people like me and other people that are looking at it have to participate in it, but then like [SPEAKER_05]: Like you want to slowly bring the culture back into the basement back into the garage. [SPEAKER_08]: And I think you don't get there.

[SPEAKER_08]: I think I really do because I think kids there there will be some kids up there in a capacity. [SPEAKER_08]: Correct. [SPEAKER_08]: It won't be a shit ton of bands like the sixties and seventies, but I think you're gonna get some decent bands that come out of this just because they're like, man, fuck everything it's on. [SPEAKER_08]: Let's just do this. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And you're luckily.

[SPEAKER_08]: You're only about twenty five minutes from here. [SPEAKER_08]: So this is usually where we end our show with a drink and bro the week, which is somebody who is inspired, or helped you become the person you are today. [SPEAKER_08]: I personally like to ask you guys on this one if you don't mind. [SPEAKER_08]: Who is the band that fucking lit your fuse to be like, I want to be a musician? [SPEAKER_08]: What was the one album or thing?

[SPEAKER_08]: And then we can we can leave with that. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, for me, I grew up in both of us. [SPEAKER_07]: We both grew up in pretty conservative Christian homes in the south. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, so what I was growing up, I only knew, I was, and I'm a hyper musical person. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like, since I was a little kid, it's all I remember caring about. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, it was church music. [SPEAKER_07]: My mom was gospel, Southern gospel.

[SPEAKER_07]: My mom was in a Southern gospel band, which is essentially a Christian country band that my cousin Scott played the drums for. [SPEAKER_07]: and I was enamored by it. [SPEAKER_07]: Like by the way, it looked, it was aesthetics of a drum kit to me. [SPEAKER_07]: And so I played, I started playing drums in church at seven years old. [SPEAKER_07]: My dad's little sister had two kids, where my best friends. [SPEAKER_07]: And they weren't church people.

[SPEAKER_07]: and she divorce her husband my uncle Richard and every Friday on the weekends I would spend the weekend we would either be at my grandparents house or my aunt Becky's house and their Richard would pick them up for his visitation and I just this is weird when I think about it now I was fucking went with them every weekend to my uncle Richard's house [SPEAKER_07]: And he had a big system in his Bronco and he would play Pearl Jam and Metallica. [SPEAKER_07]: And it was all cool to me.

[SPEAKER_07]: It was like the drums are so loud. [SPEAKER_07]: It's fucking sick. [SPEAKER_07]: But what got me was Nirvana. [SPEAKER_07]: He was the biggest Nirvana fan in when Kurt Cobain died. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm an elementary school. [SPEAKER_07]: maybe the first year of middle school and every channel he got kind of made us sit there and have a vigil in a way for Kurt Cobain. [SPEAKER_07]: It was like the ticker tape was on VH one and it was on it was ever you remember.

[SPEAKER_07]: It was everywhere and what happened for me is I watched these guys and the songs were so cool and it was violent and it gave me permission in a way because they weren't very good. [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_07]: Like my dad, every Friday I would get drunk and sneak secular albums into the house. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: So it would, but it was Zeppelin and the Beatles, shit that I would, you can't imagine. [SPEAKER_07]: Those are like gods.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like it was like, you can't do this. [SPEAKER_07]: You can't play like this. [SPEAKER_07]: You could never reach this level of virtuosity to do it. [SPEAKER_07]: But Nirvana was like, not very good, but it was good. [SPEAKER_07]: You're like, this is achievable. [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_07]: And it was, and when he died, it was like the Pope dying. [SPEAKER_07]: It was so important to people because for the first time in a long time.

[SPEAKER_07]: He pulled music, in my opinion, those guys pulled music out of the dregs of kind of where we are now. [SPEAKER_07]: Hair and makeup and everything was perfect in the eighties. [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_07]: Every guy saying like a woman, it was part. [SPEAKER_08]: It went from hair metal to grunge and all those guys were gone. [SPEAKER_08]: Poison, Molly, crew. [SPEAKER_08]: It kind of knocked them out.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I feel and many of them were in computer metal. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: But that was, that was it for me. [SPEAKER_07]: What about you? [SPEAKER_05]: I grew up in a very sheltered home. [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I was a ring bear in my parent's second wedding after they got divorced and they got saved. [SPEAKER_05]: It's all thing. [SPEAKER_05]: We honestly don't have time. [SPEAKER_05]: Beautiful. [SPEAKER_05]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_05]: But I had zero culture like no heroes.

[SPEAKER_05]: None. [SPEAKER_05]: I just went to local shows. [SPEAKER_05]: I would go see literally them, under oath was really under oath that two EPs before I joined. [SPEAKER_05]: I've been in the van for twenty four years. [SPEAKER_05]: But we were like local team. [SPEAKER_05]: I joined when I was seventeen. [SPEAKER_05]: So the fourteen to seventeen. [SPEAKER_05]: I would just go to churches and warehouses and watch local Miami or Lando Tampa hardcore bands.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, I want to do that. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to get a guitar and learn link when I need to do songs. [SPEAKER_08]: No flash. [SPEAKER_05]: Like all of all of my influences right now are after I joined the panel. [SPEAKER_08]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_08]: I grew up with nothing. [SPEAKER_08]: So who's one of those? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, glass jaw. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Glass jaw at the drive-in, Jimmy World. [SPEAKER_05]: Like I have no iconic.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like dude, I grew up in zapman. [SPEAKER_05]: And I just, like, I was a cultural virgin till I was like, seventeen. [SPEAKER_08]: And then Jimmy ate the world. [SPEAKER_08]: And so, yeah, it changed your life plan. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, clarity, static revails, worship and tribute, you know, relationship of command, all of that combined is what makes me that I really grew up on four one one.

[SPEAKER_05]: Four one one was my anti Christian like vacuum where I heard literally radio head for the first time, Wu Tang, all this hip hop, and that's kind of where I danced in. [SPEAKER_05]: But I, to his point, I can't be a rapper. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying now. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, awesome too. [SPEAKER_05]: But like I didn't feel like I had permission to do that and you know you're listening to radio head and it's like, well, you can't do that either.

[SPEAKER_05]: Then you find some local punk bands and you're like, I could go. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So that's what maybe you want to do it. [SPEAKER_05]: And now I'm re-incorporating all of the skater and mob deep in Wu Tang and all that stuff that I grew up with into something new. [SPEAKER_05]: And I try to make him [SPEAKER_05]: do that as much as possible on earth and sometimes it works and that's awesome. [SPEAKER_05]: But sometimes you've got to know when to fold it.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, she uses Christmau. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, it's brutal out here. [SPEAKER_08]: It's brutal out here. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we're from Florida. [SPEAKER_08]: We think it's a banana. [SPEAKER_08]: Never been sunburned. [SPEAKER_08]: It's at six p.m. [SPEAKER_08]: at night like that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. [SPEAKER_08]: It's crazy. [SPEAKER_08]: Not to do to eight thirty. [SPEAKER_08]: Buck. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, we appreciate you guys tuning in at home. [SPEAKER_08]: Check out their new album.

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