Episode 92 w/ Lil' Cease

for you. It's your boy in R. What up is dj e f N And it's motherfuckering drink Chats podcast right now. When you talk Ah the greatest rapper alive in hip hop, this guy was the closest person to him. I always wanted to ask him the little c's cripple him. He said that in the rhyme. I've seen that the other day, he said, cripple me. You was a part of a legendary group. Junior Mafia, also one of the odd time best female mcs ever, was close to her as world as well. You've been a part of the

bad boy movement. But Junior mafia movement. You've been a part of this hip hop thing for so long. Right now, we got a big up little seeds in the motherfucking buildings. That was one of my favorite to pickle me to Little CS crippled me to Little C's crippled me. What happened? He was in a car accident, okay, because you was like the drive. I not heard big never drove, never drove okay, So what happened he was we had got

arrested um day before that. Let's make some noise of Little C is a big getting got arrested downtown Brooklyn or some bud and they took our truck. When we got the truck back that that Alexis. We got it back and ship didn't work, so they had to ship the ship to the car dealership. We went to the next morning to pick up a loan. This car. It was a luminum van. Yeah, we we trade an Alexis car for a Lumino van. And I was like, b I shouldn't we get Alexus Like he was like, no,

I'm gonna ride low. Let's just take this drop. And I jumped in that ship and were driving around this little just still a fork and the ship just sped out of control. I ran into a rail. How old were you at that out sixteen driving? Had no elves? Driving dirty? This k Rose would answer, yeah, yeah, so that's what happened, and he funked up his leg. I had to get these gold fronts, took a place two joints that was sucked up. That's why he had to

put down the rhyme. And uh time in the raid the station when he said that rhyme, was that the first time you heard that rhyme? I heard the song. She already he already killed me. I had to accept that one though, you know what I mean. I took one for the team, right so now also right? Uh? I wanted to ask this question. Um this this comes via shot he read. I believe he said, what were big his plans for the Commission album with j who else was supposed to be in that group? What label

was supposed to be on? And who was supposed to be in the commission Commission? He had no label idea for it yet, so he didn't know what label he's gonna do it on. It probably gonna be on Unda, that was his label on He probably gonna do it on that depending on what Jay was gonna do. But the commission was me Jay Z Charlie Baltimore, Big and No. But he just don't play like the boss of it. But his way I like pushing Charlie out. He was gonna push Charlie through the through the commission ships. So

that's how he was gonna break that down. I actually spoke to the other day and it was crazy because unset to me, he said, you know, it's a crazy ship, Nori. Nobody's never interviewed him about Big, like he was his business far enough and people didn't. This is so you know, you know, doing drink chance. He's like he had to

sit there and just think about it. And it was like, Yo, you know what, Nobody never really asked me about Big because well, I guess what happened after Big because Cam was supposed to be signed to you guys, and yeah, because Cam was actually BIGS artist and yes, yes, I'm taking too. I was so scared. I was so scared

of of Big because that's all I listened to. That's all I was listening to Jail, so I've seen him from the Hot tighty seven and he was like, yo, he asked something he asked to rhyme and that was schilk but comp own dead Rome and he was like, yo, I'm making you junior Mafia jam words. And I was so hated. I was like he was trying to he was trying to get the squad. Now she was always yeah, she used to always put us, put us on your

you know what. The crazy ship was, um been Big been Big In the movie when Big is making these last phone calls, the crazy ship was Big had called me and he played me t or and why And I was like, he called you. He called me and was like be our favorite records, Moe, I'm working with this. And at the time two or was not that I'm figging me bag And I told he didn't put two and two together. That was a bad way to do something. So I didn't know. So you're imagine that like getting

that call, I'm worried about. My ship is bootleg. It's all over me. But so now you didn't Big your whole childhood, So did you? Was he always the best rap or you knew? You knew he was? He was nice back then. I just knew from the rip he

was dope. I'm saying, you know what, I mean, like, we didn't think he was gonna be to the level of what it is now or when he became even when he was like when he was out, you know, I mean, we didn't think it was that, but he was nice and he was to come through a difference between five years. So he uh yeah, when he was twenty, I was fifteen years old, just running them out. He took me out of the street since I was eleven.

I knew him since I was like five six years old and I was in public school him on Ponton Street. And then the number five years, I was on that same strip trying to hustle and do all that ship and he seen that ship in me like that, ain't you the funk out of here? Now, I'm gonna ta took me out and took me out of that, took me out of that his own sad. And you know

what's funny. A lot of people give jay Z credit for like, you know, putting like a lot of his friends on, but a lot of people don't really realize that Big did that first from that camp camera on Little Ceds the bought to more A little kid want some ship. Um, he got carew chain and all that big He had the club in Atlanta, he was doing checkob out there doing big Ship, and all that came from just be I getting put on shut up for all the pipelines for anybody to do. What's that sta

From the beginning was like I'm gonna get on. And then because then you had you had that album. What's that album? That was like one of the most stept on albums. Why do you think people slept on that album? I just think Atlantic then push it. I don't think they push it the right way, you know what I'm saying. And the money that we had that they gave us, we used it wrong. We expensive videos, dollars eight thousand dollar videos. And once you do that first video don't work,

they don't want to shoot no more videos. They're like, no, let's see what happened in another two weeks, another month, ship don't move and they just kind of just let it go, you know what I mean. But as long as people liked it and accepted it, it was cool with that, you know what I'm saying. I always wanted

to ask, like, crush on you video? Right? That was like the first time we a female change wigs, Like did you like she like like like like was was was that's something that y'all was like this is dope or was he? Because you know sometimes you be skeptic or something didn't work, you'd be like, yeah, oh I knew it all along, but you know down the stop like this is a risk us as a little niggers.

We just sat around and just let that was that was big game Undershot like to do the partnership with unders and under one that was doing the ideas for the videos? Did all our videos get money? Players? Anthem much on you? We just we just did whatever he said to do. Yeah, he directed all those videos. That was that was that was his way in the business.

You know, I'm saying, experience nothing straight. Then it came straight from the streets, straight trapped and went from hustling and went behind the cambra and was like y'all got some ideas and big trusted them, and all them ships just happened to pop and they and they rocked fords. We didn't say no, We just played opposition. Do you want me to go go ahead? Go ahead, and just so happened to ship. Actually the ship blew up what I'm saying, and I was just all with the nuts.

That was all the fam team. We was like big. We was like big Guinea. We was his creation. He was learning all that ship from Puff and was like, no, I ain't taking drin your moufia the Puff. I mean it's gonna be my own thing. Let me see if I couldn't learn without learned from him. And interest was on atlantic alight. Everybody was like, why you didn't sound bad? Even at that time he was trying to spread rumors

like big, but I always seem big cool. He's just always been like a second family that you know that was big. That was be ship and I'm trying to be I created us through and the whole another pant line. Everything he learned from Puff, he kind of tested it with us and the ship working. God, damn it. What do you think? What do you think b O's next move would have been? Like? Like because like because like he was doing things monumental, So what was his next

move would have been? Had he he's been on his whole thing was the music. That's all that was a fan of music. It's just next thing was k and another drin your Manfia project. He want to be the commission ship. He was a he was gonna sign cam he was, you know he was. This ship was about music. He wanted to set up his own their party. That was a big whole thing, Like you want to give it a bunch of nice niggers and put some ship together and just let it run from there. He wanted

to do five albums and retire. He's gonna write my albums after that. I'm sure to write a bunch of Little Seeds albums. You got, you gotta relax. He he didn't need my whole life so easy for him to write for me. Like I got built into being that ship. I didn't sit back. I didn't want to be a rapper. I want ten years old, eleven years old to my y'all. I'm ready to spin, I'm ready to get busy. I love the music. I love listening to it. You know that was my thing. But I never thought about rapping.

It was just a thing for him, Like all right, this little nigga, he he got the wave. He knows what to do. He came. You even knew it. He told you you're gonna be ryn write your album right all right? Cool? Say no more? Yeah you want me to do? Because I was rocking with him, doing the hype man stuff with him. So we all do like colleges and ship like that, and he's a little watching that. Okay. The only thing I need to do it just write him some runs what I'm saying, writ him some little

cool rhyme. You wanna be this little cool kid with the knapsat Tommy Hill finger? Did you tell me went on niggas? Like just all that's why he was on a chip with That's why the crush on you? Yeah, that was my creation, a beau. Don't like my album supposed been so straight. Wow, puppy Love. That's a big name of album, Puppy Love. It's a real cool a bunch of crush. Now, when he died, I can't My old ship was like the wonderful world of Season Leo.

That was me with the king, but as with the bitch's hands covered with me, that was She's the leal idea, Like, alright, I need I need to make a different kind of approach to my ship now. The movie, I heard Little kim Um express some feelings that she thought it wasn't accurate or something. Then I heard people speak on the movie and they say, why I see so young in the movie. But I heard you address that and say a lot of people don't know he was fifteen sixteen

at that time. So that's to that character. But how did you feel it was the movie accurate to you? Na, not all of it, you know, I mean sixty percent of the movie. You ain't gonna never be able get a hundred percent of the real movie. It's just something you're just gonna would be able to say and put out there. People got to understand what was something you wish they didn't put it in there, Like that wasn't accurate? Well,

that was accurate that you didn't want in there. I mean a lot of it wasn't about what wasn't accurate in the movie, you know. I mean they don't feel like anything like anything, like they put a lot of fake in it. It's just that a lot of this ship they didn't put in it, and he just added a little ship to some parts that was real, you know what I'm saying. So it was kind of like basically real. It was just more of a outside outside to the big like you know, his mom shot that movie.

She wanted to show people just how big was outside of the music more or less, but just happened. You had to put some monumental moments in there that people already know about. You know about the Tupac ship, what I'm saying, you know about the East Coast and West Coote. Shit like that you can't straight away from you gotta put in there. His moms didn't want none of that in there. She straight just wanted to be about her son outside of the music. You know what I'm saying.

You get to see the Tupoc movie yet? Nah? I want to see it though, Yeah, because um was something very interesting going on in the game right now, flex taking our approach. You actually said on the podcast and not the podcast. Give me what did you say? Act? Because now your name is in this. Yeah, so what happened. What happened was he was he was talking about the whole incident and he wanted to know if student at Cross Studio. He wanted to know if if Pox shot

himself resistance. I just when he asked me, I was there, and I just said that from what I know, I never said it was truthful of it's the fact I wasn't there when he said when when that situation happened, I was coming downstairs and the elevator, and I just stated that and just that one little line I said when I said, from what I know, you wrote it, he put my ship on blast and I just got five next to my ship. My ship. But I'm thinking it just some light ship like that, not just people.

People been knew about this. I'm talking about this ship when your time, nobody never to know it's it's been ahead. Everybody said, he did not shoot himself five times shop from what from what has heard on the streets through the birds and birds they said, let me stepped on. I guess he tried to rap and he was pulling out. So when they heard the shot, that's how they shot him. Because they were reacting. They were thinking, you know what I'm saying that they would think he was shooting. That's

shot first. That's the rule, and that's what everything you know what I'm saying. So that's what happened. And people kind of took it like we was you know, they was cracking jokes. So I was in. I was in with that now. I just answered the question that was it, and then my name got thrown up in that ship. But I ain't really know this part of the industry ship with social media. Now, you gotta just understand that's

just what it is. It would have been you know, you know who they had, you know, you know the cut social media though, Pun and Big because their nigger's personalities was ill like like like those fact niggers got good personality. I think I would have been acphole cry on social media work after that, definitely been terrorizing people. Yeah,

how was the How was the transit? Because you knew pop, you knew Pop and Big when they were cool, Like even in the movie, it's like you see Big and you say, yo, I pockets in the joint and that was that was all love like, So how was that to see that transition because I mean it was it was sucked up because they know Big really had genuine love for him, and we all know he had genuine love for Big two. Let me let me let you know something, if something, if something wanted, if something wanted

to happen, it could have happened. What I'm saying, nothing could have stopped that though we was we were seeing each other in plenty of places and if something because it happened, it was So you're saying, whoa whoa, whoa whoa, whoa. You're saying as these records is out, y'all were seeing each other to each other a few times and the sole training awards when they want something could have happened at that time if they wanted to, Like yeah, situations

happened before, but it just never went there. And I just think he didn't He didn't really want that. I just think he had a lot of people behind him pushing him, and it was vice versa. You know, you had people are not here too because in us too, you know what I'm saying. But they never would have did nothing to each other because genuinely he knew big Head love for him, you know, and Big new he had love for him. He would he I just think

he was just going with a situation. I mean, you got niggas that just bails you out of jail, and you owe your loyal teacher that he didn't do nothing wrong by that you know, out to and took you out of a situation beyond. And they both died the same way. That ship is like so crazy, like six months apart, the same kind of situation. The album's Nackavelli die all. That ship is just like a whole weird thing, and I was just thinking it was just that, just I was meant to beat dog. You can't change it.

You can't like do the wood ifs. And it was just they both got caught up in a bad situation. People beyond I always I always wish they had passed it up, because I think that would have been It was they was because we did a record together for case Lay called very the Hatchet I did with the Outlaws.

And you know, it took us fifteen years for us to sit down and talk about you know what I'm saying, Like, we ain't like each other for fifteen years and none of us haven't even met each other and knew each other none. And one day we spoke to a female. One day, I'm talking to this chicken. She must have said my name real loud and young know were already grabbed the phone from her. Yo, who this real aggressive? And I'm just like this, see Outlaws. I'm like, I

heard you. It was up. I heard you. What's good? And we sat there. We talked for about two hours. We got a chance to really speak on ship. He ain't know a lot of ship that was going on the outside. I ain't know was this, and we spoke, and then he came to New York on Damn, we got up and set down and kicked it them my niggas.

To this day he said, yo, when when Uh Pop was going to Vegas before that, he was like, yo, when he come back from Vegas, he was gonna sell with that ship with Bedow, you know what I mean. So that ship was gonna get dead it you know, I mean eventually, you know what I mean, it was gonna get squashed. He really knew what happened. He knew what was going on. He knew Big didn't have nothing to do with that. He knew we didn't have nothing

to do with that. I just think he was just caught up in a situation and it was vice versa. Two of the things that did pretty did to change it was they was young. We don't realize that time. They were dog like, you know, when his forties making this spe of mistakes up at day we were kids. I look at it now because I'm over thirty, I'm over thirty years old. I'm on with forty. So I looked at it. I look at it there like, damn,

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he said, Yo, I don't want to be um. I don't want that record to come out because what they accusing me for Nori, I ain't do so I gotta like he always knew to take the high roll like it was ill he was. He'll tell you like, no, dog ain't ain't the way. But you know, to each his own, you want to do that, you don't do that. We couldn't stop them from doing that, but we was loving them for doing it. You know what I'm saying like that was like, man, we stepped up to the plate.

But it's like, let's not, well, we don't want to do that. We're trying to get some money, you know, like you know that ship was don't we're trying to get money. We ain't in this ship for that. And if you're gonna be beef, don't make it hot. You're gonna make it hot. You make I'm gonna do some real ship. Don't. Don't sponser your reaction to nothing. Yeah, big ain't say nothing. You don't know what's gonna happen when you see I ain't saying nothing, no response you bigger,

cut you off. You're spawning anything you make a record, don't call me no more, don't come to you're you're done, finish. We don't do that now For the record, day that the rumor is who Shot You was recorded way before that as a vinyl like like, yeah, it didn't make sense before any that's supposed to been from Mary j album for her. That's supposed to an intro to her

first album, Get the Funk Out. Who Shots You My Life is in the second album intro to the second album It was Too Hard for It was your kids to the you know, we gotta put you over there. You gotta put you over there again. So I've been hanging out with my man for about the week. Kiss serious and you go to the gym to every day. Got out. He don't play those games and with drink with you. So you said who shot you? Was? Was

done for? What? That was from Mary J Blide That was ant to her second album and it was it was Keith Baby, Let's Keith Murray LLL COOJ and Big on it. Who Yeah, that's the originally Keith Murray m J. Originally was Keith, MARYJ and b I and it was from Mary. It was the intro to Mary j My Life album. I never heard of it and it was like hard, this is too hard to be just to start off for R and B album. And once they scratched it, b I was like, give me the record.

I'm su with it, and b I added the second version to it and took it. It was a B side record and put it on the B side to I Wish it what Big pop on One more chance? It was on and we just ran with HERD was way before that, but it did feel like big was coming at it. It's a coincidence that I mean that that had me at that time, No, I know I noticed, but like that, Why would people think that when they know they already heard this record before because stuff was

just big generation stupid. Now they've been stupid. Say I'm like that, Why y'all, Why would y'all think that? But I understand just from the situation at that time, I knew how it was. But we you know, Big this sweat it though Big News, Big new what it was. Bigger that's you know, he like man, he know that song and about you know that song. We're done before that, you know what I mean? So big that when Big is on stage and they kind of born them and oh that was real. That was We was in Safer

Mano and ship Sermento. It was a bunch of like West Coast on his booked on that show not you for his be legit. We was getting love out there. You know, we didn't know about this interview, Uh this interview that Bigger Post did with this dude from Toronto.

He put a bunch of ships and saying Big was this and while West Coast all this ship and uh, I remember walking through that ship the nigga Mac Tim bumped me and Ship well, you know, I walked through the spot like the circus spot he was in there. S was type of bitches in here walked through one time. I just get the film. I turned out. I looked back to Nick Nacktin like that screwed me. So you know, I looked a big funk or something like big this

ship though it don't feel like that that love. When we got on stage, they started going coins at us and ship man, you're that coins throwing that you on stage and Ship's hurt my nigga coins that shoots and big guy mad I was like, your fun that throwing who shots you? About who shot shot? And when you do who shot you? On they just start going nuts. They stopped throwing want they want that, But I did

that Ship. I didn't want to do that right here, listen dog say that you get a little guy but requested it like like you shooting me, butch like it's crazy and annyway, it's crazy like like but sometimes you gotta take those. It's just stand out. They just didn't want to feel like you know, they was getting to them where they was intimidating them, like I fuck them I want to do that shot you enough, like trying to hold that another guy like who shot you? Who

shot you? On that ship just changed the whole momentum. Ship we got followed back to be Legit followed us back to the hotel that day and all that ship. Man, they thought Big was trying to diss the whole city. Some bullshit that's interviewed. Somebody put out. But then they squashed that ship right there. Big on the phone Efty and talk talked about it. You know that hit. It was like, yo, man, let me know, y'all get to

the town. You get to their port. Satan that the stairs and anything stayed in the hotel a lot before us to the whole to the next morning, took us to their port. Anything, well, Nixon Rose took you know. That's what we do here. We can get Nick is drunk. Imagine you gonna talk about from my bad I was, I was like four episodes before we did this. You got prepared for something. You didn't have a eddy special today in by building, they must have sent a flyer

that said there's no hot water after certain times. So my whole family gets up, takes a shower, They forget to tell me. So I'm like, oh, I can't take a showl. So I had to go to them. You just do co water. No, I can't do it. So I had to the w quick. It's my wife birthday too,

let me throw that out there. So I had plotform here, right, And I told Paul, I asked him, I said, it seems like his smile was fake after Big past away, right, and to me, outside of looking in, his smile kind of got authentic again when I see the funding He's happening with French Montana. For years, I've seen your smile. Was you know, you lost it, homie, But now I see you back. Was it getting into shape that makes

you feel better? Yeah? That Wasn't that just put me in a whole different I'm about to say that I God, damn it, just all that ship alone, just give you know what I mean, getting back, just getting back in the field of work. You know, I didn't do that type of work for a while, you know what I mean for a minute, I was just really just letting it, trying to figure the ship out, you know, because that's how that's how im point. Big was to me, my nigga, Like I said, I got thrown into this ship as

an artist, and that's a wrapper. It's like, you know, once Big, once b I died, I didn't really know. I't really know what to do after that. A lot of you think Quba is the one that held me down after that, you know, I mean she didn't want that did everything big what it did for me, and we we gotta fix that relationship. We got we gotta fix that. I'm putting this on the podcast. I've been shooting it up, not cast. I'm gout to be positive energy. Of course, it's very and you know I got to

see little Kim since I saw this situation. I saw yeah, because you know, I was with kids. I thought I've never met a little Kim. That's the first thing she screamed them been mad. I said, oh my lad. You know what I'm like. You know, I got got years. I blaked out, caim. You know what I'm saying like I was taking extasy for a little while. You know what I'm saying, Like I don't know you know what I'm saying, But um yeah, so I really I was. Because you know, before we interview an artist, we always

um go through a playlist. So we had a playlist just now and just hearing y'all two together, it's like if and as a person, like you know, we were opposed at one point, I would like to throw that energy in the air that I think that y'all should work it out. I don't know what what is it? Oh, you're fixing, You're gonna fix, gonna get it fixed. It's gonna get it's gonna get fixed. I gotta fix that. She had made you part of the she had made part of that mouth stone with us one, you know

what I mean? So and so right, we gotta do it again and get out proper respect and our proper dudes. And it's only gonna get right if we do it together. That's just how it is. Like you gotta do it for be I too. Monday killing us right now. You know he managed, he's gonna make sure be good. But he balking on us too at the same time, Like, come on, man, I gotta get it right. And I think and do tithing. We're gonna get it together. How about how about come on, you know what you signed

up for. I come how about how about the rock was gonna be a big brother? All of them money else, all those big brothers. You know what I mean, it falls to most. I mean we all that's all day Monday. You know you still we grew up together. You know what that is? Like you do you want poem like him in a lot all day? We all give you fuss, But that's what makes you that connection, that's what makes you family like you know, I mean we know each other aunties and mama's and nieces and nephews and kids

like dat. Straight after you, after you got like ten years with that's your family. If you're funking up with him or not, you gotta make it work. It's not about to deal with somebody I know, then have a new stranger and then trying to figure something lest I know what I'm dealing with. I know how to all right. I can sunk with my man on this, but I can't fun with him here because he get you know, you know how to deal with your people. I'm at that age and I'm at that time of my life.

We ain't trying to figure out nothing new. I'm not having deal with what I got and just fire about them trying to take down that biggie wall that was awkward for me. It wasn't let me just let me just cut you off, let me just say something. But I've been trying to do. It's form a hip hop union, right kid, Now what I mean. Now, what I mean hip hop union is if Seeds gets sick, we come and we take care of that. Kiss gets sick, we come and take care of that. So that to me,

that was a perfect hip hop moment. When they tried to take down b I g Um the wall, I felt like the hip hop union should have been there obviously luckily and bought the building. The worst case scenario for sure. What area in Brooklyn is that that is in best style, that is investing like what you obviously the freestyle of Big we're doing the free it's right there on that corner. Yeah, that's where the DJ is from brand his first DJ and ship he's from that

corner right. There's not just seeing the NIGGI he was battling right when he did that battle and it's three floors high, you know what I mean. Like that ship is Like the building is on that corner, right, it's right outside of the stores, the corner store right there

on the side of it. There he's just dude name I think you know his name a gram Spread New York, the one that did depend And know what I'm saying, So once that ship came out, like the Brooklyn Nets even t I you know what I mean, like people came through. They won't go let that happen. We were knocking his doing every day. Well he did the right but he just said no, it's like you you know, He's like, yeah, I didn't know you He trying to

get some bread. That's what he first once he seen what was going on without there, because he knew somebody with bread was gonna be offered. And look at the time he did it a big birthday I'm saying, He's say, there's a hundreds of people out there. People go there, even going that moral one. Just go out there and take pictures, put candles down there. They did a big crip to you know what I'm saying, you're trying to

get that check from That's what he right. Yeah, big birthday, big big birthdays, like a week at the big So I always celebrate his birthday. This hit on his birthday. His birthday came out straight in the year with born came out number the number Wow, that's one nineteen seventy two about his birthday, the number on his birthday, his born days, that's nuts and because he because I don't play numbers. But I wish I had play that dead

damn I was damn damn. I wish you I had played number with that that I had have been up. But what's what's the best? What's the best? Arrow? Hip hop to you? Ever a dog cool his badly with the surround? Yeah we lo the cover of TJJ sex to ship ever pushed keys through the pet got a ring? We don't bad were playing plugging your ship, you got our ship? Yeah you see what you let me see what you know what you want a bad boy to him? Na, okay, I did like I did two shows. I just did

the two in Brooklyn. That was okay. Didn't let me on that so so it was great. It was Now what what is what? I'm not bringing the broom to both for both of y'all? What is sees and kiss listening to? Oh you're not listening to all my friends out there? Get lock, let me tell you, let me take let me take to do that, let me take everybody my friend back getting mad at me right now, I don't care. Artist, that's his music sounds good. It's different. But if you talk to if you have it, you

gotta talk to him. I never met he's gotta go, y'all know, he blows. He's rather do you go. You're not gonna see you person, okay, And that's why I mean, he's gonna like us. When you speak to him, you gon like him even more, you know. I told I told Dj John, I said, he won me over. Like the music or straight music along because all my friends out, Dad, I'm like, the worst is the worst water of the song. I'm fox with it. My friend hung out with us. I said, your dog, I foxed with you because I

like that fun the music ship. I like who you are as a person. Sometimes music is just entertainment sometimes, you know, because ain't everything you are. Because if I judged that job, never one. It's all different. Are you when you go in the booth and create what you create, that's on you. But if I wouldn't judge the person of my honey love, then I would have never had super Dog because Morell dressed weird from the beginning. He's not he's not he's not a you know, he's been

weird like he's not you know, what I'm saying. By the way, me and for All got some God you got over my famorite record I've ever made the old times. He's in a different drink from different zone day wine. I told him, I said, listen, he played me against the record. I said, I gotta relax. For All, I can't do gangster record. I got both. Let's throw that out there still. But this is what I need. I need frighting and I'm happy to have a baby and I'm delivering it. I'm the one saying, push, you can

do it. Keep coming that's a crazy marriage. Keep coming out happy in front. It's crazy because you know why, I needed a happy record, my version, my version. So we finally got it twenty years later. I've been trying to get for All to give me a girl record forever. He has never gave me one. He do always wanted to keep you in the hood. He's a foul mainker. But now but now he's drinking red wine and we are having a great time. And I also him for

at the Roots picking it recently. Great, y'all. I want to pick up the Roots my first like a second or third time with a live band, you know. Um so a lot of people thought I forgot my words. I didn't forget my words. Yeah, just going buch faster later going different with your DJ DJ very different. Yeah, we DJE. That's some people hitting us on Instagram, like Sharlot Man I said, I haven't got my words. No, Charlotte Man, I was like, I doing the bands like

take that one the top favorite they gonna be. I was like, started over, started ill about the roots. They could start over like a year. They don't want to beginning that. They looked at me like nigger. I just performed with but with them big and I just did my first I did my first live band because I can tell with faith, look what you're doing. I did. I went, I went out. I went out there and so bea festival out there with her usher the roots. When I came out with just and joined her set,

but that ship was she was loved. That's the first time I rock with band ID just different. At least a month rehearsal, just still rehearsed it. That's what happened. Rehearsed. I was gonna do it because they just wanted to give me an I didn't have. I didn't have an I never show at the ball Place. I never performed the Grammys. Uh, the Oscars, don't know who the funk I am? Um, yeah, I deserve to go to the Oscars. Don't give a funk about that about so sees me.

I actually the best era of hip hop right it was alive right now? Oh man, who's the artist? You think he would be working for it? Now? Kids out to that, but never you want to go with I think he colds good coal. Yeah, I think you don't count. They don't count. That don't That's why I said the new ones they don't count. That was that was that was the only one. So that how many collaps on the Locks out? Course that was going to be our album,

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to it. He's coming. He's trying to rip out his next to shreds first join me, like this is how you ship was getting busy, you know what I mean? Like the big seam mad competitive he you know what else? A big seemed like I'm gonna tell you what. Big seemed like big if he was dope under the ground he was. He loved underground Ship. He was into him and Math that record, I can't I don't know how

that came up with that. That record seems like they were going it like and and at that time, Meth was considered the best because he had the m at h o d Man. He was. He was cooking. He was he was ripping everything that was that math name was every everywhere, and that was going to be on came him and old dirty. I still can't say who won that. I still I may certain days different styles too, Like now you got me he said that j John, he said, Jake Gott what I'm booking finance. I gotta disagree.

I told me he was. I don't think so you're bucking. He's bucking dog. See, I didn't understand Jay in the beginning. He was using all them big words and that that school nine great niggers. Yeah, I didn't know all that scientific, replical and orlean. Uh. I understand that. I understand the color ship direct to the point and b I was more like a direct but bad Now would it be? He bodied something going and Philly. He never had a oh Man come out to Kison events. He should have.

He should have, man like somebody should have told him, no, big, it's still work. I'm still you know, I'm still killed him. Now. That was more hurt from Get speaking his defense. He's a lawyer, he's a way rappid and win helped to a lawyer to sue. You know, I always like music is still I sorry like that that they had. No he even destroyed Shock, but he's found destroy He said Shock, you get it too. That that was the only record

with him and Nas on it. One of those versus was four Shacks versus that he said was for Shocks shot winning and wrote his own couldn't say he couldn't say the basketball politics. You're dog, I can't. I can't say nothing that you got but sneakers, right, I was there with kids. So on that record the who World he came back, he had a verse there we was going, we was at the hotel. It wasn't Nas on that record as well. I don't know. I believe it's a

virgin the only version between Big and Nas. I only heard that one we did We went to Sack and that ship got a QUORDO is at the same time that they're talking about it, it's the same record. But no, it ain't something that they're talking ship Nas and Big. What record did Big guard Nas kicking the door? Kicking the door? What was that line? Because Nas came back he said some ship but it was a hole. He

was like, he was like niggas Champagne last year. They wasn't a Champagna said the line he said, he took the crown off the so called king and lock it down, reached out. He did it big people, and that was big response to the the third verse to kicking the door? What did he say? Again? This goes out for those that choose to use disrespectful views on the king. And why fun that? Why don't bleat? Now you was railing it, snatch that lightship, scaling it, conscience of your nonsense? Eight

so more powdered and Johnson than Johnson. I never laughed. That is crazy. I used to have to catch you on this ship. I still catch you onto some ship now, a damn dog. I ain't know what that I said to that's big what you mean by that's that? But that's where that came from. Where that came from? He he played the free style was like Listen's even using big words. It's his flow, it's his delivery. And the way he said the words, man, it was just so

clear yourself, you're nunsense. We never laxed back big. I went to you to catch that back there. Now, she's my sister, that's my family right there but I never seen nobody never messed with Charlie. Both everybody she messed with, she turns them out. Yeah, when I got quiet, just like, I don't know what I'm just saying, like, girl, she's my sister. I love her. But you know, it seems like when a man messed with Charlie. Huh, which which

these is called the slim Lennons slim? Change the subject quick? You know that was you feel right about that? Let me take the question another way, question another way, because Charlie was messing with Big at the same time, right back to that, you don't know, but but in a different way different. Yeah, but he was messing with Big at the same time as little Kim. So that was where they turmorial started. Not really, they don't really have

no tomboy. It wasn't They weren't really no situation when they came to faith at the same faith and Kim just squashed it and they're cool again. That's hard be I had all that situated, b I was real cool like that, sitting down like that that was going on with you wouldn't people, You wouldn't notice it. He was smashing that's noise, A big wonderful love. It was a wonderful big, big fat black motherfucker. Thin must be romantics. You just feel like big fat nigg I think Punney

was a very romantic. I'm just doing I used to see the nigga with roses all the time, just no reason. What are you doing with my brother? Little A little sick of looking at that like it was just cool. Yeah, so got a little awkward. This dope was dope. It's good. It's good. It's good to get the akers. Sometimes he

was really big pimping dog. He was, now let's describe at that time, right, because at that time you're just getting the notice guy right and in according to the movie, it's like he gave bigger check and he gave big all these promises, but he really had no accolades to match that as a pole. Like I mean, he worked up, but not for him self. But still he had something he had he had Joe, he didn't he did what I'm saying that he was his first label, bad boy.

So but it was he was gonna make his career. So what made what do you think made y'all? In general? When Big even trust this guy, b I funk just be I just knew he knew what he was doing, and he was he was he was devoted to be I. That's one thing I couldn't say about he was wanting when it came to be I. He was straight up with Big. I mean, I can't knock that. I can't check that away. It wouldn't be no b I on

his phone. It one for Pepe, straight up. It's just a real ship ever and be our funk with him. And then the day we did you know, the end of the day, if he said it's cool, it's cool. Who am I to say I don't funk with him? Be I was the one that got us on this flight right now. So I was puff having beef with Big. Can you just can you hey just squashed that for us. Know it wasn't no beef with him and him and Big And was there an animosity between Big Craig Mac

and Big Big finished finished him the finished him? No, I don't think there was. But Matt used to be doing a bunch of funny style ship and b I used to just catch wind of it, and then b I just started blowing him like, all right, my nigger, you want some real bullshit? Uh? Do you hating on the road because outside looks crazy. This one artist launches the lady finished him. And then the next artist that was over the flaving Matt, Matt Big, he was coming.

He used to be throwing a little ship at b I wanting the blue and no juicy wasn't as compatible as as flavoring Year, and I had a whole album full of ship. Once Big Popa came and get Down was the one more chance. And then now Matt sitt in the back and he used to be doing a little funny style ship. Big was peeping it. And Big just started like I'm gonna start blowing the snigger. I mean, that was gonna be b He did what he wanted

to do, He say what you want to say. We had to just sit back and just whatever he saying, whatever he doing, were riding with it. I said, you know, nobody had no problems with Mac, and it wasn't no real situation. But Matt would just used to do like a little funny ship and Big was peeping it, and Big just addressed that. One interview we did in Holland, it was like Big, it's Craig Mac on the album. They said, Nah, Noah, I don't sunk with him, totally put my head down, and I'm like, I look at

my home while looking rocking them. They're all sitting over there like remind you like Meek and Wile, almost like how they beat from the same they like. It happens though. It's just industry. It's nothing to be personal. It's nothing. I mean, listen, Big was making those records that the label had to pay attention to him, and it's automatically when when you when you get it not shipped on, but when you're getting ignored for somebody that I both came in the game together, it's it's it's it's It

wasn't Craig max Fad. It was just I'm sure he felt a certain way, but it wasn't big for me. He just going going again, so a little yeah, yeah, he running some ship. Yeah he's doing something. It's that. That's wards. We had pufform on here. Puff said when Choke said that he could have shut it, damn was you there? He said, we could have he endited it. He ed it out. Yeah, we're gonna put that, gonna put that shut down the ship. He was going six sizes of rocket this time too. No I wasn't jail.

I'm sorry, jail. I wasn't jail. Yeah, I missed that. Yeah I thought I was. In my mind, I forgot you. Yeah, you picked to a lot of ships. I forgot about. That's award. That was probably the most dangerous award ever for hip hop. And Zino said that. Boys, he said he didn't have security. He was too bold, he said, he said in his words, they was, They wasn't on point till Is this the same one? The whole tribe

and tuopark things the same. That's the next that's the year after the first year of the Source of Ward as the first, the very first one still said, Yo, I don't want y'all all in the video. Yeah, it's a meme right now, like what they saying. I bet he was wishing. That's bad, that means terrible. Don't don't do that, don't do that, big love. When that ship was, I mean ship could have got Yeah, she could have got hectic that I mean it was already that coind

of shut it down. Yeah, it could have got bad in that because I wasn't. Yeah that the garden, that the garden. They never gave a guarden back to hip hop since Yeah, we ain't never had no more there. But that was that was a real dangerous award show man. It was uncensored man, no security. That ship was that nigga that guns in the front road. Niggas had guns in the front road seats. Some ships the ward shows to be crazy. Some will restraint. Actually they were restraining. Yeah,

I mean because a lot of Cambridgs. You know, you're get on the spot back then, everything about you of weptation back then. Yeah, one, that's when I'm private. Yeah that should be up for two months right over and the source and the ship. You know you want ship like that back then? Sipped, Yeah, they just getting whipped this in public. Now, Yeah, it's better way with ship down,

you know what I mean. You got all the social media get away with nothing, no another way you get splain you got a different kind of footage and all that, and that you do have one side, one story. You're like that, you know what I mean? Yeah, look in front you think I walked right into a pole looking bows over you gotta stop it. That was on live counting the money and they ran right in the ship.

You see this, Yeah, you counting money and in the sp back in the closet post some more than came right in the boys and they left the live for like to the lost this ship yesterday turned it. You see the top, go to the phone and turn the shot off like this nig was taping his shots and social media were in the hip hop. Hell yeah, it is social media. It's not just the rap game. That ship ruined in life. You don't know what to do with it, man, Nobody they say self no more. They

don't know. They just do it for the gram. They don't do it for their fans no more. They don't do it for the for the likes. You can just snap it. Stop it yo ya. I see the nigga the other day. They just came up to me with just like yeo. They ain't say hi already. You ain't give me a five? Can't you tell me he liked my ship? Was like, I'm gonna sleeping tape. You know they're gonna be sitting with his phone up to his face like this. Yeah, like nigger dog, see you my nigga.

I'm just yeah, peace one. They gotta see it. And I think we're doing that yesterday and the joint like this one's fault what are you doing? What's that? Three D nigga? We cool niggers we're doing? That's what game like, It's something that's not used to that type of ship, like the cool with that, Like I don't know, it's not nice like that. You can't just woke up to him and should be used to that. You can shop

screen today right now. Back in the days, choked slammed the girl who elliot Oh, let's big up time of the creative security. Why did you say that? Like you say he is cool? Not really, I don't know. Man, you ever meet somebody you just don't know? Like I don't know, I don't I don't know. Like that's all I can say about that moment. What gave it was like it's mad, like you ever meet up, like I know, me and him have nothing in calm but to give you a cold hand shake. Well, I don't know, I

don't know. It's just like I don't think it's meant to get home. It's just cool, like I accept that, Like you know, I just can't get along with everybody. I'm talking anybody. It was just it was like I had to see your milk, like don't go it can still you can still drink. You can take that. If you can take that, you can do drink it. But yeah, and I was just like and security just kept looking at me because the security felt like I felt awkward, and it's just like, I feel awkward that I might

be aggressive. So I had to relax. So I relaxed myself. It's good to relax. Get like that. Now though I'm a very I'm a very professional when it comes to the music. Very cool guy. You could hit me with the stuff. You can do all that ship with me now, but I'm a little older. Now I'll get irritated by that ship. No, you gotta get irritated. You gotta get some want to come up to you, respectively. Don't manage

that ship not to Cleveland to eat. And I got my knife and they just came up, yo, yo, Like, come on, we at least say I know you're eating, then give me a choice. You might want to. They didn't do nothing that they wouldn't want une to them. They don't want while they eat, a camera come up and they face and ship. Now we now I'm flipping on you because like we had to be used to. You've always been like a DJ behind the scene totally. And now you're up front. I see nas come up

to you. I see these you gotta snapchat. You relax, but listen. But how have they been lately like when people coming up. Honestly, I don't know, but people have been respectful, right because because so far, because you have the Cuman face on like your head by somebody. That's true. You get you said the other day in New York and the dudes were behind the glass joint the stages and they just went to me. I'm like, yeah, I guess drink. It's a day getting a lot of that.

Get used to that. But if you come to me disrespectful and they fust me, the white beard don't mean ship and for real, try for real trying to convice you in the studio to get on his side. No, I wasn't inside. I was not Come on you think no, you think that he was intimidating me. No, I never said that. I believe his side. I was on his side to make your maker better. I gotta relax, You

gotta relax. We had that epic debate slash argument. Let me tell the argument to everybody, to everybody who is in the I have not had the bull for music. For quite some time, I've been, you know, falling back, enjoying my my, my different life or another life life. But I spoke to for Real. It was because I had knew I was gonna be here. How much you got for that all my life? Tell us something that

come on, let me just say something. So it's different phases and different producers, lives that they go through, and I feel I can be wrong. Every time for Real gives me one, he has one of the craziest ones ever, even if it don't work. If you noticed, like every time he gives me run, he has a crazy run. You know, I'm dyslexic, so he has an ill run. Like whether the be he gave me works or not. I just feel like, maybe it's me in my head just thinking I because you be successful, you know what

I mean? Maybe it is all. Maybe it's not. Maybe I have maybe, but listen his energy right now, it's so good. It was so like the first day was awkward. The first day it was off with you know, because you ain't see anything in six years, don't see anything in six years. It's just always aking a little bit. She's like, all right, cool, yo, you're still all right, were I still yeah you yeah, you know it's talking

for the first you know, a couple of hours. But the next day he drank with us, has some red wine, he said, and he came in. He chilled with us. He wrote his bike around the studio. It was weird. That was crazy, like and I'm like, this is us. It is weird. Accummindation is weird from the beginning. But he finally gave me a girl record, So I definitely sold out. That's want to throw that out there, sold out. You know, it's a big record. It's a big record

you gade. But there's the craziest sees. For years, I felt like he's been coming into my world. And the thing about that us as being street dudes, that world is always be there for me. I don't have to always please that world. Sometimes I want to go to your world. That's a fact. Like that got hot waters on that young world. That's hard. I can't even put them the high waters, y'all. They don't fit me, y'all. It's not that I don't dance because I don't want to.

I just think got that much random. You gave him something crazy crazy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta mean to step down. It's a big record. It's the biggest, the biggest record of my career. And we got to see Genius and we got to Gus on the spot and I just wanted to, you know, send some positive energy. We've been speaking since then, even calling me telling me about how we want to go to Puerto Rico and

you know for the video. So I want to be a big time So if you guys were us is the name of the record, we were doing some real ship, you know what. Man. So with that, it sees sees sees dropping the album on D block, I just feel like it feels like that, Wow, I let's do it. I got I got. That's awesome fulfillments that are oh big, Like when you're talking about that earlier got straight digital right now, that's that's that's that's really you know, Empire

cutting them. Brad dude, I think he knows this Empire Empire showline. The first shout out, the last last on the Locks was on here Styles was independent, Yeah, she was in the middle. Kiss was major only straight was kissing like you want I want to go back and still still depend major major deal money is it is different. I just did that King and Out promo with face she had right. They brought the Masters to the b I Ship. That's how she got That's how she did

the whole. I was wondering how that would the King and Ship. It was a budget, you know, when you got that major deal. With that budget, you get that, you get the Vands Warner Brothers, right, yeah, yeah, I think, so go to negotiate with them, nigger. Yeah, I want the War Report back, so you know the difference when you're doing you know, you know that difference, sir. I want the War Report. But there's the difference the percentage. You want to own your own album, your first one.

It's your first album. Always the most special is the is the ship that got to send again. You know that now you you like me. You got the first group album and the first solo album. I want vote of mine, y'all you want both. I don't want those two, and you can have everything nothing. I just want to sorry, man, that's the way back. I would love doing We Are the Streets and I would love Don't Kissing Death, though I could get the Masters then an album. Michael Jackson,

you want to get one album. I want mine. I want because I don't think my album was that could I didn't think that was class that was a class said that earlier, the classics. That's a fact. I didn't think that. But after the years went by and sitting with a nigger like this five or somebody like you, I'm like, and he you got a dope album. That's all right? That it reflected it reflected with b I g next project would have been like it reflected that like it totally felt like that. It felt like an

offspring of Big Ship. And that was my challenge because that was my first time really like happened to use everything that Big chaunt me for the first time. Atlantic then yeah, he was a part of that album was under Queen Bee and it was do Atlantic. But that was my album doing it without a big gum was that what I'm saying. So that was my first time like trying to learn everything and really put it together, and I put a dope pass album together. K that

came through for me. That Ship, you know what I'm saying. That's the happy New Years joined joining they got tager bone o Ship. I didn't want that to show up right where that come from. We made it, We made it. Yeah, you're gonna get into the Eddie and Branson. We used to see how all the time. Listen, A lot of people don't know if we gonna get into this. Take

this shotten me. I used to see season Big in Branson more than I've seen the like Yo, I swear to god, I say one time it was behind the counter. I said, you got red man, if you do that ship too, they could be right behind the counter in the West. Speaky. This is and I'm not talking a little big. I'm talking plat a little biggie. This nigg is platinum. So so wait, wait, so our listeners, is this this dude that was portrayed in Half Big, that that character. I felt like they were trying. But what

Branson didn't look like that? He definitely he did have dreads though inspired. But I guess it was Samson you're talking about. Yeah, I guess it was. But yeah, that's how I used to run Big Big. They made that over Briton. Yeah, I think I think so. I think so, Sam. And I'm gonna tell you it seemed like the way you're talking about it was the first person to put me on the hash for you. But I'm talking about this is back then like hash Ore was popular. Now

he had liquid Claire my nigga. That ship had me tall the fuck b I g my dude. A lot of people queens and see Big in the tunnel with just him, and see he's my nigger. This nigg is double blatinum, y'all, he's just him, And see it going to be that sixteen years old. I'm going to be in the tunnel. We still running around this week, run around there about fifty queens. Let me just say something, right because you gotta take a shot. Come on, you're gonna take a shot. Yeah, we all. I gotta be

in too high. I guess, I guess I can. I guess. We don't have to do kiss. We don't have to do Did you see how did you see kids just stop doing it? Table movement? It was like out you did light by the way. You want a shot? Twin? Come on? Are you coming here for a second? Come on, get my shot? No, we can't do no, you gotta take your can we sell a brand on? Yeah, we had a warm this thing in my head. How we watched we gotta talk. Let's tiger bone it first. Yeah

we got because listen how we squashed. It was ill. You know what I'm talking about in the court four. Look, we both got the same law here. We were in the paper's kiss. We're in the Paper's kiss. John's outside a hagh nine seven. But we got the same lawyer. Niggas like y'all got a song because someone's going on and well, yo, listen, kiss me made to call house. We got to celebrate seams. It's for scenes. Come on, for seeds. That's a little we can't a dog. Come on, dog,

come on, dog, please come on. I'm doing it for DC to itwhere as well, little hip hop night you gotta get I'm getting that. So let me just say for the record, I'm getting some pushing in life. You better get some pushing. The most embarrassing be I haven't had was what you guys like. It was embarrassing because how we both have had no beat. We wasn'tupposed to have to be the back. Were the back that an't happened. I say, let me this way. I come in the song bang bang right, and I was in the studio

it was a boot this song. I love that song though. That's what's so crazy, because the song is going great. The fox come on in her parts, beautiful you. But the bad thing is she's just talking about you know, the family, right, but nothing, nothing to do with nothing. And the crazy ship was Papa told me. Papa said, Yo, you shouldn't have let her dissed me on you on your joint. And I never looked at it like that, like because quiet Storm. I think quiet Storm had came

came up, so she used us. But we canna come this out if you don't want to see. I love Criteria Studios, which you were showing me Foxy's verse. Well, no, it was bad. You said it was like ship ship she's going in. Yeah, it was bad. It was no, it was it was a different version. It was worse. There's a different version. It was worst. A version that actually was the worst verse. He had six verses. I think you heard the crazy version, brother, Yeah, I think

you didn't hear this. I hear that one. I tried to listen because I know people have been hitting Foxy up every time we say a name, this is, this is, this is in respect to her. You know, we all didn't know. He was young people. We were young, we were young people. We didn't know. And it was two girls they were both bosses. They were both our people had teams behind and we weren't playing. They were playing with all due respectable for them, well all due respectableth

for them. So so something happening from the hot ninety seven right whatever? Right, so man, this is the crazy Yeah, you know, come on everybody, anybody google it. But so now the beef is circling and it's like yo yo, but we know we gotta speak to each other, but

we can't hit each other. We both got the same lawyer, Bob Khaleena called one day for both our cases to say what we both got walking see this this after we all had the malays you walk in you gonna have on us and say that's just like hit me. This was some real mafia ship. This was not a mall niggas meat like your nigga like yeall seen I see or sopranos. Once they met, it made each other at the airport because because they met him after the middle of the detector, so knew that was good. You know,

you know we're good. It's like doing to have a fight, that's it doing. I know you don't want to say specific can't because no, we won't. We won't. Let's just explain shots five shots Fieri. Yes, it was something crazy in front of Hot Records band and someone didn't know Polish records lay between your records. It changed Hot night sevens protocol, the truth power one on five at that time. If power one on five didn't exist. I don't think

Hot would have still forgave us. What happened was Hot realize who did whatever whatever, and then they put us back. Then they said, okay, but to tell you the truth, but speak up to Hot ninety seven. But why did they do it? The weak power roles? Like the weak power came because remember we didn't have power when she having problems with each other, right, and they booked us.

We were three and the three in the five. Let's start the room and then you know, we ain't know we had We always expecting to see them as soon as we come out. Were even the station, they're gonna come in. Ye what showed up? He just said that he's three three or five and three? Who's who's the host of the show. I believe we was Clue and y'all were somebody else? Yeah, because yeah, because it was like like more of the weekends. One of them weekends,

different people coming up. Why would just set up something like that and you already know the situation it did about it? You never like Yeah, I'm like, yo, after all the ship send transpot, We're like, yo, did they do that? They knew the situation ship was going on, This was world going on through that. No, I agree with that. You knew they was gonna come and we was gonna be there. We all we was all right, come he did. For the record, Yeah, he wasn't there,

go there, nor he never showed. I saw normally in court, Yes, I seen after her. We had other cases. But the great saying lawyer, here's the great ship. When they when they came for the HIGHNY seven ship, they had locked a couple of niggas up on the spot. What happened was we didn't know we had the same lawyer, so I had to send the lawyer down and they they did the same. He was great man, old case. That ship was so crazy. Got everybody out of jail on

that day that she was so crazy. The FETs came in and said, you can't be a part of this at all. Yeah, because that's my stat he was in our ship. This case went there for five years, like this should happened with us in two thousand one. This shouldn't happened to two thousand and five, like what I'm saying, But Bob Cleet always said, hey, don't talk on phones. Save you some money, because that case is still open. Yes, every show I did put two hundred to the side

all that because that case didn't go. That ship ain't cold case. That ship's still crazy. This is crazy hip hop history, right, I'm waiting, Yeah, this history, and we've always been cool in between and before that it was just we underst still what happened? They were cool, like when that happened or did we up before that? But when it happened, did have we know immediately? We knew immediately whatever that what had, whatever had happened. We need to work that ship out because it was us the fat.

When the fats come, you gotta relax, You chill out. My friends every day they don't, Ye wouldn't have no problem. What's that ship. Let's let's go. I'm gonna be honest with your thinking. But everybody don't when I got sepeded, right, I'm gonna be honest with you game, Like twenty thirty minutes early right, they weren't posed to let me in the room. These niggers had a chart like we was

the mafia, folks. I swear like that black book that ran around it in the stream making the documentary about that. But that was that that state. This is fats. I walked in on they chop board. They had me at the top of this ship and they had these. Then they had Nigga's position. I said, you got over lave. It's not even a serious. This is not what y'all thinking your conversations. They had us when the crazy ship and it is like the quote uncote hip hop police. No,

this is the fans, the fancy. The fans had them like they must didn't do a show on Queens in two years, but just just maybe Queens. They had the money to pay them, so they bring that up. They're like Nori and do a show in Brooklyn. I said, I had I don't know if I had the glasses on, but in my mind I had a glasses, right, and I said, money to pay me, you idiots like I

could have. The fans is so smart. They dun't like because I like the way they had this scrushed like they really looked at us like we were someone like the lawyer, name is Valerie? Answerdam value, answerdam federal lawyer. I had to get federal lawyers. But I couldn't have no my lawyer. She had to come to me and say are you are you really like this? Are you like that? And I'm like, you gotta relax. It's not

we're not wrapp up baby. But they the way they described us, like we were supposed to go to jail for fifty years. They had us and you know what it is, you got probably cases and all that ship. So now yes, your tax bracket is different. So they're just looking at you like and then yeah, I got man's that. You know, that's dumb. I don't know what these niggers do, but they're trying. That's what they're trying to. But they try to chew and two together. They're trying

to all the all of us sping. I'm I think I think me and him meeting the courtroom saved it saved it all because we had to sat back and I'm like, yo, is these people coming. They're like Yo, it's fast now, like oh no, this is serious, we got that, but like, yo, you tell your gonna that's my friends, and a chance to see that studio when I see what happened. Is this what we didn't know is anything that happens on a federal ground defeats coming

to immigration buildings across the state. So when the state, when the state didn't want to carry it on, the FETT took over that case. That's why I never went dead. That's why ball Cleaner always said, hey, y'all, that case ain't dead. Save your money. Yes, don't talk, don't talk about that, don't say this. We couldn't say, be careful, that ship ain't over. And were just sitting that the audience having fun. And five years later I went to my I was on probation. I want in my probation officer.

One day they bathed. It served me show up and the side and for the record, for the record, what the funk about? What ship that? You don't forgot you? I don't know nothing about No that ship man, that ship don't I don't know about that day. No more like five six years ago. I wasn't. That's my friends, goddam, I was just drinking. Years ago. We were talking about good one we were doing when I seen it. When I see what they was trying to say that we

were I calmed it old the way. I almost agree with them, like yes, I say, I think like and I'm like, we gotta relax, like the whole thing had to change, like it was so much steak. But what I'm trying to tell you is they're not playing with us in hip hop. So you know we used me in season because I don't know about you. I can't

speak about you and Kim Side. But for that whole two and a half years that I was banned from seven, it was probably the worst money in my life that I was made because ain't nobody trying to hire you when you ain't got no record spending Like this industry is about what do you do right now, not what have been done for me in the past. So I'm gonna tell you as a person that was banned. So so what happened with Hot ninety seven is they didn't

just banned me from Hot ninety seven. They banned me from MS broadcast, which means every kid you can't because like it's thet ships don't want to book. You don't know at that time, but I was fucked. I didn't I didn't keep playing. I didn't give you know, but it was rough. I don't know how it was. No, he didn't. That's what it was supposed to be. Your image. We're supposed to be like Naine. We that's what we get busy. But at the end of the day, now

clubs ain't booking. Club can't. They's so bad kiss that the club can't book. You ain't even book add on Hot ninety seven. We can't say his name. We can't say so in other states it was nobody want to do nothing to you and whatever other stations and his own and they were trying to book me for a show. They would be like like that that was a rough period, like that was bad about this in my life. But I don't know how it w And that's how that ship got shu up, you know, saying like we really

we had to workout way back in there. You had to see a lot of please, a lot of free shows. You have to get back and get braces of that, you know what I'm saying. But we were smart from the gate when we saw each other in that quart I'll change that meaning that we did my nigger, we got beef. No, that's my whole together community about this ship. Let's do a lining about this ship. We havings. Where was our community service that we had to clean that

the building on the park. Yeah, it's a choice, yo side. We had two days commuted service all that and like, yo dog, what're we gonna through? And we went to the studio Peanot Grigio, drank and we sucked around. I got a call from my lawyer that day, right the day after that, because the fans wants you to come in. And they came in and asked me, Hey, you know when the last time you've spoken in so Noriega? What yesterday we coolt He didn't have beef with somebody I'm

friends with. Well, I'm thinking that on yesterday we ate Peanot Grigio. We drank, went the studio, were just backings, were cooling. How can we have a situation if we were sitting there and we were kicking and be chilling. But that's what you had to do, and look and

let me just let me. I want to clarify something because um, lately you like, well not lately, but back then your poem will see the bad rap because what happened was going to court, right, So let me explain from from my point of view, I wasn't there, so nobody couldn't really subpoena because my testimony doesn't mean ship because I really wasn't there, right, So they didn't that they didn't want to subpoena Foxy Brown. But the reason why they subpoenaed Poem and they subpoened Sees because Poe

and Sees was there. So the minute you say the government subpoenas you, it's called a government's witness. So people from the hood who don't know no better, they automatically say, he's the government's witness, he's a snitch. That's not the way it is. What it is it is. You get you get a list of people who you can subpoena. Kim could have easily or anybody could have easily said I mustn't been a poem. I must and you know what that would have been. It would have been the

defendants witness. You know what I say. I'm saying, oh whatever and whatever that is. So they could have got on the stand and said nothing. But nobody who covers that part. This is the fact that they you know, people don't They don't know because they don't have been through that because he's gonna have got on the stand

and said nothing. But they don't care about that. They don't care about that, the fact that you got out there going man, they push you in the you have to go when the fans say, nigger, you got out of you. There's nothing. You're going on there and say, I plead the fifth year. You could do all that, but you ain't saying nothing to criminate or put nobody in No, no bad predicament or nothing. I don't know nothing.

Nobody got arrested from that situation, No, no, no, how many people got stapoena from that ship d it was this ship was seven got stupoenas. She was a bad situation, it was, But we was not. We was not acting like rappers. Were people that like who we are today's drinking and this is who we've been. This that's why ever is the best because we grew up and you

know what they ship was. There's no disk records, there's no toys, no history, there's no there's no like you know, there's one like you look at you look at look at people be it's like seventeen things like No, there's just one thing that's done. We was all streets and and and and smart enough to know. Relax, it's bigger than us. That's cool. But but there's no like disk records and all this like nowadays, that's the first thing.

They go straight to the studio and part two and now we don't have we have one part that wasn't realized was that steak. Yeah said your dog. That's typen up cool man dog were straight. But come on, let's do that. Let make noise that. Look kids, kids like man, I shouldn't have took that tyger shot face. It took that tag. Yeah, you change since the tight age, not tyger bone. That's let's describe tyger bone. People that list.

Nobody don't want to know what time. We all want to do that with me because your experience with me craziest shy. Yeah we already did you already blew bell. What's the whole combination with the tiger around the world. Yeah, an remix of this? Yeah, yeah, you die right this shi we didn't do that. We do that. No, we didn't do that here around the world. Those ships is super strong. No, I ain't an out of you. Now we should rivet and just the second to a seconds

you remix to come back to life. All seconds though you're dead. Sorry, ship is disgusting. I'm not gonna and barrows all tide. I felt like he almost died. She took it like an take it like a truth. Many shot. She did one, Yeah, let do one more. Let's do one more. Yeah, I come talking about he had four bad nights his birthday. I'm having up a kiss for kiss. I totally you have for a week. Gemmen, Oh we

gem night. I'm a Gemini two seven oh make seven God, I love geminized man lost the best posts j kiss the Cuba, I'm losing shot. Make some noise for Cuba, the Cruiser, Jade kiss in the Black Train c Q and the raise your train. I hit him, got my dramer head. Thank you. You can't be pouring shots like that. They'll see it's come on, come on, you're gonna relaxing community serves. Kid. You gotta poll my shot this one time. It might be the best one to last one. You

gotta do. Damn that. Damn that's that's almost madness, yo. See to hip hop BC twin twins. I'm only doing that's right, That's right. DC Twitter the man I'll be the hour. This is for hip hop, This is for b I g This for history, This is for your history. This is for crazyhood. History has it a sound rich block History Kate Rosewood and everybody History Beat The OS podcast coming soon. We doubt Yeah, what let's don't let's go. You got a good new port, Let me get one. No, No,

don't come for that. Did Oh, I'm not gonna lie to gonna get better. It's nick It never gets better. Man. We didn't understand what the fund that she says of the label right ship ship? So what's up? What's the most girls you want? Big train on the night, Jesus, I felt like I felt like way, I felt like a lot of trains that he got. If you're tiking boats and just bot, we just got you just gotta because because Big was smashing a lot of things out there, I was I was so proud of my nigga one

day and you gotta answer that question. But one day, one of my w one of my man and Big and with balling, and we were at the club and then Big and Jay walked in and he left with the two drug dealer bitches from my hood, and I was like, that is good. I want to be a rapper now drunk dealing and it's big. So they were taking down a lot of things. Yea, let's talk about that. How much how much busy? And you had to run the train with Big. You had to do it. He

was rude. I did a few you knocked down. I can't speak on his ship, but I didn't speak quick. Nobody can't get mad at Big. Ain't who he smashed? What's the lefty chicken smack? Come on series, I'm not checking shot No no try no, no, don't no doing that. But no, you gotta tell me how the same we have that bit you stuff. You have to you have to focus on lab tell me I sucked the I'm not going to say their name because I'm good friends with them. Still, let's that's homny song. Let's see if

we get guess yeah, homy song. I have my ship, I have fun. Let's make some Oh we just still breathing. Man, Listen from those questions, how did y'all feel? No, real, this is serious, like I'm going serious serious. When Sean came in, how did y'all feel about that? Like when when they were comparing him to Big being junior mafia too. No, no, you wanted that's what it wasn't around at that time. No,

you want to point to be in junior mafia. But we ain't never No, we ain't never had no situations or it was there any feelings about his comparison to bid anything. He ain't never trip off that Shan Sean like just for the people. No, no, no, that was something totally diffic That was not put me. You know too much that that one. That that was something totally differ I don't know it. It was nothing to do and it wasn't. It was nothing to do with no

personal ship with Sean. Shan was always fan whatever, you know what I mean. We never looked at that no way. Sean was from Brooklyn. He wrapped that ship. I mean, big was Jamaican. Sean was beliefe is still that Caribbean And we gotta go to belife and check Sean act. Yeah, we're gonna go to believe. It was nothing. It was just yeah I need that trip. It was no, it was no situation. Come back. That's what I'm saying. You're

gonna come back. It's your your passport, you got you got your green guards from at least I'm from Cuba. You know I'm not. I'm not cut Trump about this dad Cuba. No, he's gonna kill dad. Not to go to the dead, y'all my family. I'm Cuban. I was born in l A. But I'm Cuban. Yeah, and I went to Cuba. He might not come back on people and got let I'm worried. I can't let Trump do kids, can't. I don't think he could come back. How people is eating right now? Yo yo, real no real food, not

eating like the way we know eating. They're getting to eat. They is Mr Lee ever coming back? I don't think. I think the Trump was is going on. That's gonna show up when he put his fast corn and say drink it's not allowed. No, you don't staying here. To me, the Girlfrica Trump said drink tims is definitely not allow. I'm not careful. He should have he should have hit

He should have hit me. I would have said, it's not a good idea right now to the immigration you're not missing league, and they're gonna say, and you're not going to the US, and you as American that you're gonna tell him to go back there? You stay there that got dot y'all. Don't want no problems with none of that ship. But you came back from But we spoke about that earlier. I spoke about that. You spoke about it here. You spoke about that. Yeah, yeah, I

don't want no problems with none of that ship. Don't green cars. I don't buy liquor. I don't buy cigarettes. I don't buy none of that shipping. I'm over there. Every time we travel, we're draining that DrAk pulled. Yo. You got that sport. You gotta lax because he's British of British anywhere. They got to ask me for my passport. I'm nervous. I use my life. What about I can't use my license for nowhere? I gotta go. I'm nervous, yo, Bro. We come from out of the country, my band, you

drain you nevers. We come fromat dream assport. But it's not it's not. Don't worry like the crap I've seen. She was there. I don't like like blue right, it's like a blue. It's like it's like English blues. Like, oh, nigga, you're then you did you better than us. They're gonna get you black British. No, you gotta you know what you gotta do. Actually, domestic you gotta get a Miami. I d stop pulling out that thing. Domestically. You know they're gonna get that. You a citizen ship. You're not

a citizen, y'all. That's what I just said. You're ros how you're doing a citizens your citizen yo? The round. We got some illegality and do ship scam scam our logo scan bit our logo scam z he When Trump got elected, he came, how do I get my past? How do I get my CITI? I said, that's where are you from? Some Jamaican? I said, Chris asked Chris, Yeah, that yeah, sound Jerry. I think you're safe. No Boris bors down, we're Boris sources arresting on the jail. Boars

where you at? Come in here? Where you from? Rule them? Nigga ain't got noticed? Come on here if you don't make some say come oh yeah. I just want them to hear your your accent. Listen, they're gonna fish fry this nigger, oh man to tell them are you from in Peru? Your hood? And now all that? Why? What where are people my hoodie? And brush that's why he's getting departed. Yeah, kissing, you wouldn't have seen. He's showing you my little you're gonna get me. We're too good important.

We don't want to get deported as I think. That's the island. Man, get the cup water we go. Oh yeah, about to go bank for which sounds gonna be apport some ball of ship. Maybe hearing with none of us. He's world world. That isn't Jamaicans. We're in trouble right now. We're all fun in trouble now. It's got it's more of us and that easy. We'll be all right. We just gotta keep fighting. Let's just say, stop promoting that nigga. Anybody promoting Trump, not too much. That's how he won.

I never put a meme up that nigg even if it was funny or whack. Everybody promoted him. But yeah, but you're giving him even if if it's a funny meme. Stop giving them attention. And people don't see ship like that. We like they get more fire when they see people. This in them always more. It's always awkward. And I walked through the airport and I see somebody with make America great again. It's like, I just know I don't get along with you, so I just I just automatically

go to the other side of the bar. I'd be like, ship, I'll sit down. He was like, hey, buddy, I'm like, ohne whatever, And I just go to the other side of the ball. Like and it's always like the whitest of the white guy. Like it's like, you know, he don't like hip hop. He just he just ride camels and cows. Camels. Horses got weird, not camels. Yeah's definitely no. But that's so good. I should be whack. That's why we can't. You know, we we we helped him, We

helped him win. Well, it wasn't we. Our system was already broken, and that's why you want but we helped him to Anybody thought the memes was funny, come on, got real? When she got real, everybody was up there somebody, Oh, I can't believe he's winning. Why you can't believe he's winning? You just put every name ever, all our people getting vote. Did you vote all of us? Hell? Because that's it don't matter too, I understand. But that's the reason why he wants to because all of us, all of them,

we really don't know why. We really don't know why he want I want Hillary, And I was like, Hillary, I'm not gonna A lot of people don't Nobody was Obama. And not only did I try to vote that they would let me, but I brung people out to vote. Like I didn't do that. Can't be like I had everybody come to Holly Check the Hollywood at the time, so everybody come to know Florida. I never really about you. You know, you ain't been in my house seventeen times. Yeah,

but I have lived here that time. I had set up um you know, my nephew, my um, my wife, everybody you know, and and other people come in come and vote. You know what I'm saying that we hadn't got a friendly in Florida. So um, if I didn't I have had a friendly just in New York, they wouldn't let me vote. But the fact that I asked, you gotta flow the front, Yeah, I gotta flows. It's terrible. We don't want to talk about it. It's terrible. What

what's the harder from me? I feling And I was like, well, man, man, let's do that. Let's have that to let's have that too. So sees what is next? What is next for seeds in hip hop? Wonderful World? It is Leo too? Got something? You got something? But that that's that's my next project I'm working on. I got a little project coming out called The Hall of the City. I'm gonna put together. That's the heart of the city. You on that? Okay, the record we did we're having for Okay, cool one

too because I feel like that's old. So you know, I'm reaching the world. I'll do a new one. You're doing one, no problem, no problem that we put that together the first step. That's it. You know. We got the documentary coming out for B I G. For A and E's coming out. Yeah, we'll be out here next week for the film festival put me and doing the screening for us. And did you see the final project that's the premise of the documentary. Yeah, it's just about B B out life. And it's like, yeah, but it's

a more exclusive one. But is it like it's the day one people from the gate. It's people that you probably ain't never did an interview about big You want to see you on this one, you know, So just a real dope one. His mom's produced it Faith produced it your series or it's just not. It's just one serious that's coming on and it comes out j We're gonna be doing the music conference out here June sixteenth for it, so I mean, and I'm working on the hardest city project I got coming out, one of for

world Ships Neo to uh what else. I don't know because you know, um, Like I said, I had a session with Farrel the other day and Farrell had told me something very interesting. He said, he threw Happy out six months prior and the record didn't actually work till he actually put out the video. So with the movie, no, he said, the movie was out too. The movie was out. It was that was a part of the movie. Yeah, it was. And he said the people just called on one day and said I wanted to do the video.

And when he did the video, that visual was actually what made all this come to Do you think our era it should be more just this period are it should be more visual driven nowadays? I think so. I think our history can kind of show people how to adapt to what's going on today. I think I ever was more important now than it was when we was living in you know what I mean, because we're seeing with everybody doing today is what we did years ago, flat tops and the datas and broke change, broke change.

This is something that that lived through between other I think we we just started to see how important our situation was now because especially when you see a young cat that's coming up in the game, embrace what we came through because he comes from a different you know, was dog. We our ship was real. Think about what we went through and you had to be real, like, yeah, it takes it's real for y'all to last this long, kids, and you like to you gotta we gotta learn how

to we create ourselves and to make ourselves better. And these are the only Niggers could live off. It's just something that's just media, all right, you know what I'm saying. Like we really had to hustle and strive and and do ship for our ship, like and go through real situations. And I think the new generation they get it. They get an easy pass. We see on the line. The new generation get to get the easy Remember, you have to have a dope show and all that, like everything

the shows. You want to maintain a leverage of being around that long. How many rappers you know today it's gonna be around another twenty years, like huh. But I think the balance is recreating yourself and not losing yourself. That is the balance, because the motherfucker's lose themselves. But we gotta learn how to adapt to something that's totally

different that we're not hit for. I'm not I don't want to get up every day post on Facebook, Twitter, tumbler this and that, and I gotta do too much ship like we I want to get up and just smoke, put the record out, sit it out this way. I'm way too tumbler. I don't know. I don't know how to do that. Just these all these ships that my

nephews and my people is around too. You gotta, you know, on this and when I post them on Instagram, I gotta, I gotta do Twitter, I gotta do Facebook, I gotta do snapchat on Twitter, Instagram and said that said I'm a d D and I'm dyslexic. That's all I can actually handle, is it? But we that But that's how what we gotta do, you know what. I'm like, that's the ship. But we didn't have to do with that type of ship back then when we came up. It was all about just dope music. As long as you

was dope, we searched for you. Well, actually you did do it, you just didn't know it. The label did it as a publicist. There was no social media. But that was the same difference as the difference is now is that it's personalized. You're doing it for your We went to sound autographic record stores. Nowadays you do interviews online. It's things that trade. So this streaming hurt the game or helped the game? Kiss heard it for all this. I think it helped it for the because they got

to spend money. Yeah, yeah, help. But they're saying it's changing now for the artist, that it's helping the artist. Now, that's what they're saying. Just let me tell you this. Fifteen hundred streams on ye, I'm just saying that's what they're saying. That I don't want Spotify by the way that this streams. One that's got they got to relax. I don't know. I don't know how this reflects on the artists. I don't know, but what I've heard is

that not heard. This is actually facts and Devil's Advocate like the d A for the artists on your side. But I have the Devil's advocate. They're saying that for the first time in years, record industry has made profits. Now, obviously that might not mean the artist. You know, you just feeled me. Okay, that definitely don't mean artist. I'm gonna tell you where I come from. Anybody. I mean, let me tell you what I call that's the artist.

We on the bottom of the Yeah, we get it is Octa pus hands in it and then we get this. But I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say something. You're also both y'all are on the I'm a major label artist advocate. I want to be on a major. I just want the bag. Listen, listen. The reason why I'm saying this is because I have I managed artists, and there's something I have an artist signed a strange music. Technology.

These guys in and they're they're always like looking at the industry and trying to figure out how they can make money. Bless you, but they do. Yeah, technology is independent, that's damn damn bend it in a major. Well, that's what different. I'm not n't not understand it totally, but I'm rather me on a major. Absolutely. If you don't want if you boiled kind, there you go. That's what you need to be said. But but it's fucked up. Now. I'm spoiled from when they was given. They was giving

us every day. But those days don't exist, and we still love those days and we still got what you meant. Those we got to survive, created out of ship. Never gave us the baggage. You lose ownership because at the end of the day, wealth is built your truly ownership. You're right, Wealth is built an ownership. You're right, We're right. But these kids know sometimes sometimes you can own something that's worth nothing. But that's the risk. That's the risk,

that's the way, and that's what we were saying. Don't gonna gamble. They know what they're gonna do to the it's already doing. They don't got nothing to risk because they're doing money in studio. They just put out the cloud during their crib last the last few projects we dropped as the locks. We own it, we made ship off of it. It's good that we owned it. But it's a flip side. They figured out how to fund the game. Now that they're letting niggas get their masters.

It's always a flip side. Always. At one time it was impossible. Only niggas like Mike Jackson was getting Yeah. So now that they're letting regular blackhood niggas get masters, they figured out they don't even mean nothing. It made something to you as the older War Report and the old New all the streets is special ship, but the ship is so digital now. Yeah, black boy, you gotta have this. You gotta have that. Nobody want to sign,

nobody in the chance to run. And I don't think gonna change that as the fact that anybody could make music right now, anybody that's true you up. So now your ship don't mean because the other motherfucker's making ship too. Yeah, and we did, like she she back then when the album came out, you lived at the album studio was hard back in the day. Now you got two days was the same ship. Yeah, you got two days and listen to here and you can kind of like they

want another one. I think it come me three days. That's why I got off that the albums like that, they just won't work. They just want to work for me. Yea. You look under the common and they won another Let you're coming out. I don't even my nigga I even start working on that. Yet does what they do with thet He's like, everything you put out something, what's the next one? Fam? I just dropped it, and they all you, you promote something, your ship, everything you don't happen to

that locks and block my ship. They all you. You can't sell nothing nothing and not live up to the expectation with this error. You can't say nothing's coming out to its ready run to have a whole guy. So where's that project? I get that every every minutes old before it came out, and see you were smashing and shortly from a law to right. No, no, I wasn't. Are you talking about what he was just going through? Why your phone is someone fighting? These dudes? Don't find them? No, season,

I haven't done nothing. That was very cool. I was just getting out of your next episode. Next next you don't worry. You can ripple beat a little cripple. That's when I started the interview with that's my favorite line that started the interview with in my life season, I just say that about that line, not even that he crashed crashed the card ripple with some strong ship. That was a hell of looking parents. That's just your friends and who was Big his favorite rapper in your opinion

back then? Yeah, hell a lot, oh dirty, oh oh, any West Coast artists stop that. See that was his name right here, just the locks, I mean b I was a fan of music, man nigga. We listen to everybody mind niggas, we listen to Ship. I'm a fan of ship. I can sit there and tell you about a bunch of I'm a music. It was to come to the studio or Bigger be shagging about Ship that we just laid like you come before Big play, before

I even had you come. I can't in plenty of sessions if they knocking out Ship like a royal version that cannot live. I just took a purpose tacke of bone. It was not it was big knock smoke. Now. I was supposed to be on ready to die? Is that true? One more chance? Right? Yeah? Big? What happened with Nis got too high? That was a more chance remix he was supposed to build. You ever see that. It was in the smoking a chance remix with everybody on that's got too high? They said, be I smoked him out

too much and he never late. He said that we sucked every question if he made questions when he got his house. I was like drink champs every question. And once I got cool with Big enough to smoking everything, and once I knew he wasn't he wasn't gonna say get the funk out of Once I got the ability to ask some ship a thing. You asked that nick word bubble as I actually, let's get this story straight.

One more chance remix session is because the regular one is already to the regular produced a remix because that's such an incredible record. Yeah, come on, has google it, DONJ. I don't know who did that. A lot of people, which Big had that same sample the hook. You had

a lot of people on it. Everybody had that record record b I B I record so before that, but Nas was supposed to be on that record been crazy, so they got not supposed to have been to the record that it's that one picture with him and Big in the studio. You just see you can see all the ship in the studio, but there was no recording for But it was also another studio session with Q Tip Q Tip song oh Wow, and Nas and Big was one was Big it has been Big Buster and

Buster was still sneaking his dick and everything. Bust is the great stabbing, but still for being in the game. I watched I went to Sea in about eleventh grade or something. For him to still be rocking. Have ot think he's a yeah, yeah, what it says puff daddy, But just woman, I don't believe that it was it was he did that with somebody. He did that with somebody. John Smith, the hitmaker. Oh yeah, that's what. A lot of producers that prospect. A lot of ship going on

that I can't remember. I understand that. But when remixes came, that was secondhand ship, like the ready of that album something totally different like Easy Movie didn't easy, it was heavy too. That's how That's how Big and Part got cool very I just learned something. Yeah big think about easy Mobi did damn near of ray that died one in Machine Guns Funk and album podcast. It is the

same thing he did teations. He the only bigger first Easy Mobi was the one that glued that shipped together with Bigger and Stretch Stretch from Queen something like Stress. It's a lot of history from that ship. It's a lot of ship to recollect now because I can't come off and with that ship. But Tiger. It all up all that ship, and we got a party tonight too, so I gotta make sure we got to back out of my wife dinner. I'm out of line. But the Blackbird were Black Girl up back. I thought we took

care of that first. My bad, Jerry, I'm sorry. But now let me ask you, where's the produce on Life After Death? Right? And that was awkward because it seemed like Ray and and now I was a ghost. It was it was a ghost you said, nas and go No, they were talking about that hole. Yeah, it was that wasumulationship the album, nass on that record, No, the record that plas after the album, but we're in the Yeah,

you're correct. But what I'm saying is, so, how was that awkward getting risid in the studio because be I ain't trip off that ship. I knew just that it was just a situation. Man. He understand what he understood what it was seeing we was bumping at the album. The new about that ship, and they knew about it. And you know, after the Source of Wars because I met that day at the tell them all right, Ray Corn and them at the Source of Wars. You know

that whole ship I'll beef. We didn't have nothing to do with the Death Road beef situation that day was with that day, no sees you're giving some good simes not now I don't know, I don't know beef ship, but you know they had that, they had that ship. That was our first time with us seeing everybody together, because yeah, and that's the first time Big that day and almost like, yeah, we're gonna meet at the tunnel.

We never want to go into the club that day, but that's the first time Big, that's the first time we had interactions with them. Besides me, meth was always our nigga Methin, but Bay used to funk with him. His footage on YouTube a big bumping that album, so Big thing was never aggressive. We want to aggressive ship. They didn't just see it and then go, yo, dog, what's up, Like nigga funk with you? It was good. Yeah, my nigga, I ain't know you. We're gonna meet later.

Let's kick it. And but that was our real situation. That that whole Death Roll ship was just something that just happened from that, you know what I mean. But that was our situation that was going on around. That's that time where that source of ward ship like that was the first like hip Hop Awards show. It was a bunch of niggas running around beef and embugging about ship like that. And we're talking from a respective like we just reminiscent. It's not nothing to read. This are

just real situations. That's why I have it was really the darkest hour. Dog you had to be about that ship and be real and authentic about But then Big um risule on the olbum because it was all a love, it was all respect. It was just about sometimes it's miscommunications, misunderstanding. It ain't nothing wrong to say that. He still loved the culture of the music and it was big with niggas like Big. At the end of the day, Big was a fan of the art or the world. He

loved us. He seemed like he was smarter than all of us, like meaning like he knew like what I mean by that he was he was waiting nothing that Yeah Nigga said about that what I'm saying, he didn't. Trumpe seemed like he petty j J still good Jay, still be going a niggas was on his third grade sneakers. He's something prospect, Your pettyness, Jay, But come on there, it was real ship. There was both two different people. Big thing stress about distant people. Even if you said

something about Big, he wouldn't even stress it. But he had light tap you without you even knowing. It's not rounds. He tackled niggas in it. He won't know. You gotta figure out that ship. But that's how he figured out when they was talking about them. Nobody never blatantly says something about Big, but they read between the line. Because he's an artist. Yeah, he's a rap. He listened to everything, he studied it. That's why you got grace like this.

That's why you got niggas that lift that long, because we studied this game. You gotta be a part of this ship. You got game. You gotta be. You won't never know how to come about it. If you ain't, you don't understand itig gotta love this motherfucker. I ain't know why biggers say certain things, but he understood ship that I didn't catch dope. Niggas is dope like you

may not understand what y'all about. You made worries up right now, making up today, niggle still problem, make one up by a Ping Pong sing song, Ching Chong sing song. Let's go that's this cousin that Ching Chong sing song. You know, it's certain people that created something that made landmarks. My nigga, you ain't gotta be the biggest ship ever, but yeah, your landmark stamp you for being what you stood for what I'm saying, and that's what it's about. Goddamnit.

Seas that was so makes it much more. But I'm not the only problem I'm having right now? What is I can't leave on drunker ship three, use my lucky number. I can't leave to Urina and then I'll come back. No, let's get the three and then urinate. Yo. Kiss you gotta relax. Come, we're gonna start spreading the rumor that you only have a dream. Chaps. You've been on here

like seven times. Listen to kiss you alcoholic too. You've been fighting it, but I just want to put you on any seven times like the turin my first time. You like the drink? Kids, come on? Or you love you love? I love you? Okay. I got more questions, nigga. How many he's got a top five, top ten? I don't gotta top five, okay, because five. It's a lot. It's a I'm a music head, my nigger, I funk with a lot of people. I can't you want my top ten? You gotta she rap cool g cane me

starting off me came came cane Madonna. You gotta you gotta respect that came with the ship before a lot of cane, that nigga. Did you say, everybody break cam? Wait? Wait wait, so we got g rap cane rock Cam, Um, you got pocket and top ten? Yeah before Big there's there's no no no. I just got my chop tin and just keep on guarantee the locks as a whole,

a whole, yeah, all three of them. Um, they all the streets, Big al Big, you got big a hell, it's you definitely got you definitely got gum under your timberlance your top. It's gum under your sneakers. It's so much. It's a bunch of people. I could keep going, keep going. This is hip hop. I't how many I'm at. I think Wait, Cool gig Rock, Kim g R. Locks, Kane, Big Al Kane, Kane, big al b, I ain't big. It is my last Okay, okay, no, it's no question

about that. We don't even count Big in this right, You shouldn't even be in this all right, of course, nas it's my nigger hole. That question. You got two left? See this one? My chicken tricky yet scarface. It's like I listened to a lot of scar face, like, Ghello boys ship, Diary of a bad scarfaces my dog damn mm hmmm noo. Yeah, because you're mad East coach with it right now? No beside scarf face scarfaces Houston, Yeah, that scar face ship. You're about to say the brad

on that face? Yeah, pop um yeah. Not Honestly, I might be buying snoop as my man. I thought you're gonna say a little Kim, little kid Kim j Mafia. I don't count. I'm not counting that. I'm not a part of. I'm counting something that outside this ship. It's like I can't put certain people I'm connected to like the certain people don't connect that don't count. It's a order. You ever see somebody say that Big isn't number one? Do you ever? Do you ever? Big is my favorite

because Big cover all grounds of ship. I feel like, as an artist be I covered every part of the rapp component. You wanna do you want to put down storytelling, flows, melodies, cadence, uh, metaphors. I think Big covered all parts of that. He did too positive. It's so many I don't like having them check Gotti. He just did. Um, I'm not don't talking about that. He got a show called tales. He actually um takes a artist record and he makes a whole movie out of it. He did. Um. I think I

think the idea is dope. He did. He did uh story to tell? B I g So I followed him on Instagram, so I've been checking it and um, it's a whole story, like like the whole movie, basically my story to tell. But do you not feel like he should have like you know, I mean all due spect to him, but you don't feel like he should have holided at you and said because you you probably was in that second session. I don't even know about I ain't never hear about it til you just told me

about it. Just about the shot you're gonna get you up the date with day to name, I never heard of. I didn't hear about that. I don't know about the series was about that drink Champs God damn it. Yeah, but um, that's what that's what's happening right now. So what he's doing this is a whole movie based upon it's a record. No, it's it's like a movie. Yeah, it's like an actual movie based upon like the record. So that like I think he did story to tell

about Big. I think he got something from Jap, Queen from M got trapped Queen from Freddie Robs. So it's a whole like a whole production, like a movie. From his interpretation, I'm guessing what he thought that they was trying to do. I think it's dope. I just want to know did he actually reach out to the artist

to say, do you have any input on this? Because I know as me like me, like if you just do super dogs like and you just like you gotta relax, like you look like like coming, I wouldn't have And it's crazy because it's BT. So BT automatically has the rights because they gave you whenever you signed off on your ship, you signed off for them to have the rights to your video, so they can do what they want. Actually, but I would think, I don't know, am I the

song from the label? Maybe, but I would think, like like if the dude did a movie to knock yourself out. You would want to. I'll have yeah, like I mean, I'm asked what I was asking? Um because they did b I g s. They probably did that through the steak. I'm pulling shots. They're gonna be like, they're gonna be different. Oh, it's the cup. It's the cup is to set us. Yes, it's not nig No, it's that ship. It's the cup. On the last shot. Yeah, last one. We gotta do three.

Three is my lucky number. I know you had to, sir. I count very well. I'm sorry, I don't be good, but I count very well. Come on, let me get the other. Yeah, I'm gonna do light shots. Listen, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna stay quiet. Don't make minds like I made him. Look I'm right there. Look at that. Look at that. That's good. That's good money. That's a baby one. That's goods. Go by the way. Look at this is like teenager I got because I'm celebrating little seeds.

Got you. Look at that kiss I got? Be kind? Be kind, Yes, every one, and let's pick up Jerry at Blackbird again, Jerry Blackbird. Cont Look at that I got. I got the most disrespectful shot little Seed, DC Twin and DC Twinter Yo, we love you, DC Twin. You're gonna be back in a minute. No, no, I got disrespecting. Don't don't do him. Don't he like he does. Pick up the cows and pancake gang Solu Louis. We want to celebrate you. You had one of the craziest positions

every day hip hop, the best ever. Did it alive? It was your right hand man. You go with him. Yeah, it's very different. Yeah, the chest, the chest he has is growing. He brushes. The last one was a little so sees anything. You want to tell the people what you're about him. Not to drink tabo was cool, was very That's a very cool. Healthy jay. Kids see me jump on somebody's back and just don't drink too much of it. But now you shot to congratulations, don't be

really big, Thank you, my brother. You got something really big going on, man, hip hop. This is what hip hop. Hip hop. Hip hop needs, song running song like for real, like to think about it. Um um. We need the inmates running the building. Yep. Finally we got the inmates running the buildings. Let's pick up a vault because we're leaving. We're leading as a TV show. Now we blew up, we sold out. Yeah, let's just start it out there. No, don't say we sold that. No, we ain't set up

because we're gonna maintain our integrity. No, we're definitely gonna manage that blood set up a little bit. You know, we lead it as a TV show. Now have the CBS, but we lead the TBS. Shout out to them, but they missed the bucket and they my nigga still big up to hold the people. I forgot their name. No, we can't see them because you know, Greg hooked up audio Boone's big a way to the other side set. Let's go get Spotify. Girl, That's what I meant. Oh

my god, are you're talking craziness? You a little bit just leaving out there? So they mixed up. That's trunk facts. I love drunks. Trump facts. It's general Trump facts. It's alternative worse than drum facts. So drunk facts have some alternative fact. But don't think think a lot of money. You gotta relax, but listen, you know what it is.

We celebrating hips. We're leading as a TV show. Now, I know there's words out there Charlotte Maagne and Joe Buttons trying to disrovolt our interiom right now, they're not they're not gonna see what we're gonna do it with vote. You know what we're gonna do. We we're taking old I told I told Diddy, relax, let us take it. This we got but shallo man and Joe Buddys, we got love for you. But we're gonna show you how powerful that we're gonna work with these young people, these

young and they innovative at the vote. They they enthusiastic, they vigorous, and that's just what we need. Well, groundbreaking show and we're gonna just go out and we're gonna have motherfucking fun. People are sitting there and like kind of blame it on. Did this ain't did he? This ain't just hamming? Like there's there's people like Derek Ferguson and where Mom Dukes and Shoheim reading and Zach Baggers claimed I don't know his last name. I just gave

him Baggs claim it felt right. I'm saying, like last name, that's not what baggage ladies, that's my man on the edits. So you know it's like he's not editing. By the way, it's not even know my drunk sacks. I thought it was him. I gotta I gotta relax. Was a dangerous show man. So that's this is this dangerous show celebrate hip hop CEO. I mean by that by how your setup is. Yeah, we were, it's dangerous. You're definitely talking. It definitely wants you to say something supposed to say.

We do that. But it's all in the celebration of hip because we can, because because you don't care. I can sometimes I care about this culture. Let's not the coach. Individuals may not want the questions he's saying. Yeah, they're like, we want to get it out of you. We want to get it out. I want you to feel good too, man, we want to feel good. That's what it is. I want you to feel like you gotel do you do

drink this great spake? And that's like I'm a DJ, like like I'm the I'm the unseen person, Like nobody gives a DJ. DJ is the pinnacle of hip. That's right. I gotta say, we do get about I'm I'm so cutious, I'm so cute, and my girl feels the same way when I get tracked. I'm cubid, I'm mad. That's the DJ respected as hardest like that. That was every DJ in the world because nobody gives about we give a look about I know, I know, I know. It's very time.

I come from that. Every week ya matter. Yes, we come from the era out here for this era, we matter. But nowadays this I park DJ s thought, that's not the DJ, it's from DJ, but they have a d J in the name he Frank t J doubles this out there with it shouldn't be d J anybody. Yeah, you ain't look cranze and I'm not just in the digital DJ talk about it, but looking about it. Come on,

that's something that's paying your dude. That's something different. That's not craz Us doing demos, playing on dude, there's no dudes paying you go SoundCloud, you you open new artists. Yeah, you listen artist development. It's terrible for this new generation. These guys gotta get up percos that I don't think that development Molly purpose, never chase Molly Purpose. They gotta get off. They can't singing. Brother, Then he'd be like yo yo yo, So how have you doing? How do

you like the game. It's cool. We call it yo. Yeah yeah, what like I can't tell you how you know, Charlotte May is my friend. I can't I see interview. Uh we want the new I don't want to it one of the most popular arts and they they actually like it was on purpose that you can't do that. You gotta sell like this is one thing, that the music is one thing, but you gotta sell yourself sure, like you know, that's why Angie Martinez was important to

the coaching back then. Like back then, you do an interview with Antie Martinez that it was all over and we didn't have the internet, but it was all over reached to certain people like you do an interview with Flacks, you do an interview with DJ. It was certain ones

that went viral for that era. But you actually had to have something to say that these kids are so drunk and high now that they're drinking high and I'm still talking because there was a motherfucker like there's no artist development, no more, right, we don't know how to be. You just gotta just st freestyle now just we should think it's cool. No, we don't got to because we don't. We don't have no we got history sub like you. You're rich in history. Brother, If you don't know that,

you don't some of the richest history have. I'm blessed for that. And that's all. If if I get, if I gained nothing else from it, cools long as I get love and he's a part of a legacy and get and get hip hop. Come on, as long as I get to do what we do right here to sit around people amongst us. Cool with that? Not that a ship man, you know this is cool and deep on deep block. I'm throwing that in the air. There's

too much pressure just kissing. Went to what's my big brother right there that I want to see that got me through this ship right now? That's my that's my coach through this ship. Now, that's that's my b I through this ship right now. This guy right that's all that's that's that's facts in the building. How you doing side? Got thicker? That's my that's my b that's my be I through this That's that's somebody you consider the top five the best of the best. And yeah, I was

that at me. So when I get that love and recollection from somebody like he humbling himself to me, and I'm like, nigga, no, do you my nigga give you that? He going on, niggat you don't don't challenge me to that. You be out of me like you're you're top five, you're one of them niggas. That's hard, crown man, you know what I'm saying. No, that's my dog. That's cut that off. No, no, no realist compliment like you would say that. It just said you knew that basically look

at that. That's hard. That's like a comp kiss. So as a person who's sparred with jay Z right like you actually straight at bars and then now you went to rock Nation, but that was the independent because Rock Nation giving up their independent deals. How is how is you know it bringing it all to fruition? Was it what you thought it was? Actually, I'm still I ain't signed my soul rock Nation. You get wo mother mother? Do mother do with myself? Jam is No, no, no, no,

this is just management management. I'm not leaving major labels. That's what you like that, But I think it's not me. It's so you know you're not leaving the major You're gonna sign your soul on because Christy, Christy is rock Nation. It's Rockney, that's y'all manager. She's the lock Sta Nation. They don't took your manager made them know. But that's what they do. That's what they do when you they take. They buy in the manage. When you say, if you go to rock Nation and you I'll leave him to

be over the too. Yeah, scoping so they can run, Yo, how your ship run? They just they behind it. You know what I mean that you told me the best ship about rock Nation. I can't blow it up because I don't know if he's a private conversation, but he told me some great ship about rock Nation. You know, I'm not going to blow it up. It's good that I can't blow the but beautiful, it was beautiful. It was beautiful one the shotgun big up the top to see too. And yeah they say there's no place. I

don't know anybody. They say, I gotta get to that buildings. You sell the blocks a good but corporate? Whynot's take that out of contin I don't want to see this one. Then quiet right? Right? Right? But so big up? So are we ending it on? Big en up? Rock Nation? Is that it's a big thing. It respect him, I respect, I respect selective who has recently been Na. Yeah, it's all about progressing man. Anything to make the game bigger in the feed the people that deserve to be fed.

How can we hate that? How can you hate somebody? Yeah, it's I can't hate that, man. Anybody that's progressing, man that you respect that came from our error or beyond or after. I can't shoot nothing down like that, anything that for us to progress? Why we why we got to shoot that down that salute that and have fun of that and celebrate to that that that fact. Everybody.

What would your mother saying with with jay z one? No, I'm just saying didn't because he always got to know because that was real, like like at the end of the day, how did that even start? I don't even know because I was outside. Look then't like old man man asked me? Because no, no, this is like a story that I need to hear. I think Steve Stout was doing something like both sides of the Fenshion, And I think he was because it was doing that with

nas and Home too. He ain't thinking he was gonna get that serious and they got I mean it wasn't it wasn't really serious. But you know, but yeah, but you know at the time he was doing, he was remixing everything I was doing. Remember that, like the Maya song, I was on original one. Then he came with the other one Fiesta. I was on original Fiesta, the Big Fiesta. It was just like it wasn't he wasn't saying nothing about me. He was just but just the fact that

it was on. Why was he doing every day? You know? And stop was setting me up with the joint set him up with that. I think that was the competitive nature of ever coming up. It wasn't so which she washing and fortune hugger than all that. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't be it was bars. It was. It wasn't no beat. He can laugh at b and you're trying

to catch the waves to everything that's going on. So we have a jump on it because the big and Jay star as like a competitive but well would I would say, and that he wasn't scared though anywhere like now it's more I bottle down to nobody, but about down that I supposed about that now anybody bottle down to anybody? What the niggers don't deserve him? But explains that no Jap because he don't understand what you mean

by that. No, was Kpey was more competitive, and it was more like the whole it was we was the lock. He probably who who would you be still trying to We ain't looking at success. We're looking at we're trying to go through. Yeah, Now, accolades and money and accomplishments get you about quicker than you ain't been seeing. If you could knock the snig out just because he got it rolling on, and you gotta shock because you got

a shot, he got a roll that was. That's just a comparison to used from, however, to to what's going on now. You can't getting around a certain you couldn't even get in a certain studio with them type of niggers. If he wasn't one of the studios, he couldn't like no phone ship. I had a three fifty seven on me when I went to do right where you stand for for um prem and Guru and yeah, because he didn't know what I was going to shop, they had

rats And it's a fact. Fact and studio. You didn't make a song me, you might not make it a hole in the wall my studio. You've been right that you have in your seven. I went to dn D with all of me is and did that song with the same seven. Rosewood got knocked with Let's make some noise. Yeah, but it took it was their feet everywhere it was. It was a machine. It was a machine that had fellies, old English machine. She was they what borrows it down.

We boarded after that and turned it in the headquarters rested Peace King headquarters. Man got and then they took is no longer there, no more now no no. That's what was prime real estate. It wasn't in like a hood. She was down down made the hood premo like I thought. I thought that ship was really hell though. That ship was all the way down, but it was hip hop. You're going that ship with everything you're going there. We was actually making our demo. And then when hold was

doing reasonable down that's why we got history. We was in the playing food and were making the demo. He was made can reason and that's what that's what make I ever specially, that's why that's my favorite ever. Know else studios Niggers don't know about what we went through. Man, when I don't know what, I don't know what um uh, but it was it was like for like two months.

Big used to rent sound on sound, remember sound on Sounds, and Big would have upstairs and me and for where I would have down That was a quiet studio running around the strea. Biggie was upstairs and I was there downstairs, my nigga, I kid you, not for real, for real for me wanting to the joint. That's why I was

still like buggling that for real. Never had did a joint for vague because we I was like, I spent two months at least in the studio sound on sound right from bad Boy identical, like you like, and it was it was just quiet though it's only two It was like you come in there, it's like a house mass And I had downstairs. I didn't have. Don't that studio that's when you come through it. When he couldn't have no rooms to his studio. It was that studio

around the corner. And I think Big started liking it because he was like he couldn't see nobody cut cool. Only other things that I had. It was talking a lot, like walking a lot right there in that ship. Nobody didn't know you in there. Yeah, and the strip club was right next to it too. We got to relax. The white Spot, White Spot. I used to go in there, the salt Spot. It was nice. It was not like you got you got my light at one of your your foul. One of y'all got my light up. I'm

just gonna throw that off there. It's ready funny. It was one of y'all. It was the other version in my mind. Listen, man, this is old rap ship right here now. But you know what, these fans love it because you know why I get drunk. You know why these fans love it because I think about it is we'd be sitting around thinking that they don't care about the error Wars, and we're living proof. We hit twenty five million and that and that was four months ago.

So that lets you know that they actually do care. They just want to learn. They need a platform to learn from. This is the platform they learn from. They be educated, They get drunk, they smoke some weed, and we talked to ship and we have fun man and little Seeds. You needed to be celebrated in the hip hop. That's what the fun we did today. And the kiss came to hiphop. Take the kids, we can't give Jay.

The kiss came to about and drink chance. If you ain't getting some house in the world, thank you, but it's about you today. I'm gonna let you know. If you ain't getting congratulated anywhere else in the world, I said, drink chance. We continue to support. We give all people they flowers when they can smell them, and we smoke trees with them when they can. In hell, we ain't gonna be you when you asked away, you'll go away.

You here now, we're gonna be yours now. You can't do that though, like yes, Hippop, we got to celebrate all legends. This is my this motherfucker plays show. He plays find doesn't like the MP three ship because he's real. He's really the real. He must to go on there with Crates and for it. I got my crazy but I'm not going. But listen, he's from the real hour of hip hop. That's the real essence of hip hop the whole time I did motherfucker's records. Yes, and he's

team Street Team this show in Miami. Tell him I got to relax. Yeah, and Big poured me a glass of champagne. Coolest motherfucker ever been just now small Sor I was looking at you, No no, I don't see it as a story. It's not that Sorry, I was just talking for two hours. You say nothing. I'm not a story. That story story. I'm just saying I always tell people. I was like, yo, I was there, I was spitting the party. It was the first of your mafia in Miami at all the club. Just to bring

it up. Now, why are you just saying nothing? He break down the story. All I'm saying is what happened. I wasn't v IP, wasn't really v I P. So I was in v I P and Big there he had to pumping mash champagne. We never drink champagne back then. And then he's just like you want a cup. I'm like sure, brand he poured it and I was like, just hello, cool bro, and I's story. That's it. It's not that crazy. It's not investing of let's jump him on the way people that happened. He was just cool.

We used the biggest, always been the coolest guy. But no, no, Big let me. He was there promoting like that's a crazy ship like it was. Then he was there for them, and I could see it. I was like, he don't even do this for them. He was there for them story. I got to have a talking. You got a big story, it's not read. I mean this mort you're blowing up too much when you when you got a big story and say it's not the story. Yes, I mean that's my story with big that's the only stor that's the

best story. By the way, that was one of the best stories, the big stories. The b was one of the coolest on the in the world. Dog. I missed that nigger. He was like, he was really like a cool nigga, hip hop nigga. He embraced niggas. That was dope, you know what I mean. He was just like he taught me everything about this music ship. Like just I'm everything that he was. What I'm saying, that's who I mimic. I wanted to be like that nigga that he was that black. Yeah, I wanted to be like him. I

thought he was the coolest nigger on earth, what I'm saying. Like, and the only thing he did was introduced me to this type of ship. It's like a world, you know what I'm saying. So I just try to embrace it. And he was a music head. Dog he embraced it. He loved all this ship right here, Like you know what I'm saying. He would have did Drink Champs. He would ship. I would have went seven that it was funny too, had shot. He would love this Sepond show. He was cool like that like this. He liked to

get high and bug out. This was this regular ship right here. I think Big would have permitted his new single was it's just there, just out there. He's on Drink Chaps. You're saying, hell, yeah, no, let's go. He would have definitely did that. He would definitely with this type of show Little Cy's. I can't thank you enough, Jada Kiss. I can't thank you enough being yo, Jada Kiss,

you really support Drink Champs. I think you own it on Let spread the light wing Man's su for the rum with Jada Kiss gave us on a part owner drink Sad. You know what I'm saying, on some humble ship, not even music ship, just on some real, a real person type of ship with Kiss the other day for six hours and it was crazy, like we got on dog. Fact that he on that with you for six hours, So much respect for you, man A shot at me.

But look it was crazy because at some point, I was like, I think we should have security because it was like it was like he got some wild fans. I got some wild I'm trying to book him that all the time. Man, get you. I feel like we gotta get security. Kiss. I feel like we got a little bit at a little bit a little bit up, but little cities. I can't think good enough listening, man, hip hop got to continue to celebrate our legends. We got give them the flowers where can give them the

trees where they can help them. And the thing about it is, so many other generations, so many other people rock. You know, the rolling Stones get older, they're go on toll they do it. Why hip hop we can't do that. You know why hip hop can't do it because we didn't have drink champs, and drink champs are gonna celebrate continue salute people that the older you get, the black of the veritive street, of the juice, you know, you know what I meant. But no, they take the drunk

of the marria. You know what we got, we got we got supposed to get. We gotta continue to support ours because sometimes we forget, like that ship don't take me, No, it don't take it. Don't take no money out of

my pocket to say Jayda kisses a real nigga. He has to be supported every project in the Locks and everybody and a little CS and d Rock and a little Kim and Foxy Brown Nas and Ezy and uh Rapper Nord and marb Deep And it don't don't cost me nothing to say that, you know what, these guys came through the errors minds not like you know, I might look at it as the best everror, but if you don't look at it the best ever, it's okay.

It's all legends for support, the people that came in for a little oozy Burden, for a little Yaxis and for a little um yahman Kazi's and and you know, say I'm a Cozi, don't refer I'm trying to sign him. Yam a conzie. Come on like Manzizi Kazima and Nagging Baggage Clip Baggage Sack Baggas Claire, you got a big choice of Zack Baggage plays an executives clus face. This was his middle name, exactly what I don't know, No, what's last bag baggage Sack? I don't know it's last

namest slop slop. What's next? Name or slow that? Nobody know that nigga shut up and Zack from her bo baggs, but sack baggage. Jack is about to be the Ellis Rapper ever Yoga cool accident, you still got to ask you, Twin. You know yo, yo, Twin. We love you. You know we got you. Salute, We love you brother. Yes, that's right, baby, and we're gonna train Diego because we're gonna get you back on the road to you know what I'm saying

once again? Birthday? What are you sober today? Right? Come over here, Come over here, so over on your birthday. We're proud of you. Come over here, Diego. What's your Instagram? Shout him out? Don Diego for your gonna hear that? S that out there, no doubt, I'm out of Come over, t You gotta get to him, Mike. Don't nobody hear you? Then? Come over man, come through, come through. For everybody that's drink chance family. You know, Twin has been with us

from the day one. He's our fucking brother. You know what I'm saying. It got to our accident. We don't care. We're holding them down the same way we're gonna hold them down before the accident, We're gonna hold them down after the accident. And family. Man, I appreciate the support man. The Friends is loyal. Man. I'm in therapy every day, grinding, and they just showed me mad love talking people from like Pakistan. I've had people from Yo, like the Netherlands.

Like it's crazy, It's like worldwide. The love is real, man, because all all it is this show, this show is authentic. We are ourselves, you know what I'm saying. Look how far it got us, you know what I mean? And this is amazing. I'm so blessed to be here. I'm so happy to be here. Man. I'm still eating assing. I'm just on the chair you already, man, Carol Ceazy guys, Days to night, the little Yeah, I feel like you. Your face says everything. You don't see I feel like

you definitely. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you. See, I don't eat. Yeah, we gotta eat the booty like Grostries. No they once, no, No. Everything I leave you, your face says it. Yeah, you get a nice spoke my frist. I swear, I honest, I never no, no, maybe once. I don't remember. I licked around. I licked around. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I licked them around. Y'all Know what When I went there,

I was like, WHOA, you're nicking around. Listen, takes a penny, s see, it tastes like a penny, right, it tastes like it's alright. Drop. Before we get out of here, we just want to remind you that you can buy Drink Champs gear at your local detail our store, so look up the store nearest to you. You can also buy drink Champs gear and other merch at drink Champs

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